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--- Log opened Fri Apr 19 00:00:02 2002 --- Day changed Fri Apr 19 2002 00:00 < jonath[an]> Mike1: esden too? 00:00 < esden> ahh good 00:00 < jonath[an]> sure Mike1, if you have time 00:00 < Mike1> hehe no esden no sorry esden i am a little distracted today 00:00 < Mike1> jonath[an] yeah i have 00:00 < esden> hehe ... 00:00 < jonath[an]> ok Mike1 :) 00:01 < Mike1> esden so whats ur plan with praenti for comming over here for xmast? 00:01 < esden> ... that is not sure ... 00:01 < jonath[an]> :( 00:02 < Mike1> esden i can help you guys with a place to stay and food 00:02 < esden> but my parents said that if i study propperly ... the money for the plane ticket can be found ;-) 00:03 < esden> so I am havely studying ;-) 00:03 < jonath[an]> hurry up and study guy! 00:03 < Mike1> esden hehe yeah you better. we will have fun 00:03 < jonath[an]> :) 00:04 < Mike1> jonath[an] you will join us right 00:04 < esden> Mike1: we hoped that you will help us there 00:04 < jonath[an]> of course Mike1 00:04 < jonath[an]> me too 00:05 < rxr> ok cu this morning ;-) - n8 00:06 < esden> but I have also another proposal ... that I hope will not collidote ... armijn wants thot I come over to him to help him port on PA-RISC and IA-64 ;-)( 00:06 < jonath[an]> bye rene 00:06 -!- rxr is now known as rxr-zzZZ 00:06 < esden> I do not want to miss it ;-) 00:06 < esden> ce rxr-zzZZ 00:06 < huebi> by rxr-zzZZ 00:06 < Mike1> esden oh ok 00:06 < esden> i mean cu ;-) 00:06 < Mike1> cu rxr-zzZZ 00:07 < esden> A possibility to hack on IA-64 will not be so fast there ;-) 00:08 < Mike1> esden yeah, do as you wish :) 00:08 < Mike1> if you get to decide to come over you are welcome 00:08 < jonath[an]> sure esden :) 00:10 < esden> thanks boys ;-) 00:10 < esden> we will see 00:11 < jonath[an]> take ur time 00:11 < esden> i soo jou at ccc Mike1 right ? 00:11 < esden> wton I not come over to costa rico 00:11 < esden> a 00:13 < tsa> cat esden | aspell 00:13 < esden> tsa: sure sure ... 00:13 < jonath[an]> hehe 00:14 < esden> i nead aspell modure in irssi 00:14 < tsa> ACK. 00:15 < tsa> Finished downloading 0 bytes in 1.324 seconds (0.000 bytes/sec). 00:15 < tsa> interesting. 00:15 < tsa> i'd like to know how curl does this.. 00:16 < esden> lol 00:16 < Mike1> esden yeah i will go to 19c3 i hope 00:16 < Mike1> but if u come you will be here before it ? 00:16 < esden> curs is terribly buggy ... 00:16 < tsa> ack. i've got no idea why clifford droppen wget. 00:16 < esden> Mike1: yes sure 00:16 < tsa> s/droppen/ropped/ 00:16 < tsa> lghdkjfgljfd 00:16 < tsa> s/droppen/dropped/ 00:17 * tsa needink aspell, too. 00:17 < esden> hehe ... seems so tsa 00:17 * Be-El grabs tsa keyboard and mixes up the keymap 00:17 < tsa> Be-El: man loadkeys(8) 00:18 < esden> tsa: clifford dropped it cuz curl is easier to script then wget .. 00:18 < Be-El> tsa: hardware layout, not the software mapping ;-) 00:18 < tsa> esden: that doesn't help if if doesn't download at all.. 00:18 < tsa> Be-El: hm....2 late....the windows keys are already removed ;) 00:19 < esden> and we use allwacs cutting edge technologys ... like devfs ... dietlibc ... aso 00:19 < esden> so in 1.7 that is unstable we can also use unstable tools .. 00:19 < tsa> esden: ..which will result in a non-working cutting-edge system? 00:19 < tsa> interesting idea... 00:20 < tsa> ;) 00:21 < huebi> ftp! - That works! Everytime, everywhere! 00:21 < huebi> Ask a cow if you dont believe 00:21 < esden> tsa: yes ... sure .. but once it is stable we have experiance with the new technology ... and others begin to use it ... and have little experiance with it .. 00:22 < huebi> We can contribute to curl... 00:22 < tsa> huebi: i would - but it seems there currently is no wise cow present here... 00:22 < Mike1> The Cows Projetc! 00:22 < huebi> I invite her! 00:23 < huebi> ________________________ 00:23 < huebi> < What can I do for you? > 00:23 < huebi> ------------------------ 00:23 < huebi> \ ^__^ 00:23 < huebi> \ (oo)\_______ 00:23 < huebi> (__)\ )\/\ 00:23 < huebi> ||----w | 00:23 < huebi> || || 00:23 < Mike1> huebi i knew you would do that 00:23 < tsa> *ROTFL* 00:23 < huebi> Tell me about curl 00:24 < tsa> is there a figlet option to make cows? 00:25 < tsa> cow: curl sucks. it doesn't download things i want to have and it sucks at maths. 00:26 < tsa> do i have to include some food in my qeustions? 00:26 < Mike1> tsa just grass 00:26 < huebi> ______________________________ 00:26 < huebi> < I wrote it. Don't bother me! > 00:26 < huebi> ------------------------------ 00:26 < huebi> \ __------~~-, 00:26 < huebi> \ ,' , 00:26 < huebi> / \ 00:26 < huebi> / : 00:26 -!- wschlich_ [~wschlich@pD955CDD7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:27 < huebi> | ' 00:27 < huebi> | | 00:27 < huebi> | | 00:27 < huebi> | _-- | 00:27 < huebi> _| =-. .-. || 00:27 < huebi> o|/o/ _. | 00:27 < huebi> / ~ \ | 00:27 < huebi> (____@) ___~ | 00:27 < huebi> |_===~~~.` | 00:27 < huebi> _______.--~ | 00:27 < huebi> \________ | 00:27 < huebi> \ | 00:27 < huebi> __/-___-- -__ 00:27 < huebi> / _ \ 00:27 < huebi> 00:27 < huebi> Bevis: shut up 00:27 < tsa> hehehe 00:27 < esden> argh huebi !!!! 00:27 < huebi> cowsay -f beavis.zen I wrote it. Don\'t bother me! 00:28 < fake> YOU WONT BELIEVE THIS!!! 00:28 < fake> == 04/19/02 07:21:30 =[0]=> Finished building package glibc. 00:28 < fake> YEEEEEEEEHAW! 00:28 < esden> wooooooowww 00:28 < esden> juuuuuubeeeeeel 00:28 < esden> geil 00:28 < esden> pervers 00:28 < esden> fake du bist ein gott 00:28 < esden> wahrnsinn 00:28 < fake> :P 00:29 < esden> neee ohne scheiss jetzt 00:29 < fake> uebrigens ein 20jaehriger. 00:29 < fake> *g* 00:29 < esden> musstest viel tweeken ? 00:29 < esden> aja stimmt fake 00:29 < fake> esden> bis jetzt nur den flisz wrapper kicken 00:29 < huebi> _______________________ 00:29 < huebi> ( How has he done that? ) 00:29 < huebi> ----------------------- 00:29 < huebi> o ^__^ 00:29 < huebi> o (oo)\_______ 00:29 < esden> alles gute 00:29 < huebi> (__)\ )\/\ 00:29 < huebi> ||----w | 00:29 < Mike1> jonath[an] whats your geil ass doing? 00:29 < huebi> || || 00:29 < jonath[an]> Mike1: trying evilwm 00:30 < Mike1> jonath[an] oh ok 00:30 < esden> huebi: du willst noch heute sterben ? 00:30 < Be-El> so...ab ins bett 00:30 < jonath[an]> Mike1: why? 00:30 < Mike1> just seemed strange that u were quite 00:30 -!- Be-El [be-el@pD9E11834.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 00:31 * fake activates the TV-Out of his matrox 00:31 < jonath[an]> ok 00:31 < fake> to test... his..... 00:31 < fake> BEAMER ;)) 00:32 < esden> fake: wocher beamer ? 00:32 < Mike1> huebi can you make a horse? *G 00:33 < SMP> DivX ;) junkies 00:33 < esden> noooooo 00:33 < esden> Mike1: please ... 00:33 < fake> esden: von nem arbeitskollegen. is so ein alter mini-video beamer, sollte aber taugen 00:33 < fake> is vorerst mal nur geliehen, aber wenn er taugt... 00:33 < esden> ist bestimmt trotzdem cool zum video schauen 00:33 < Mike1> esden damn sorry 00:34 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.44.43] has quit ("User abortion with 5 coathooks") 00:34 < fake> mom 00:34 < fake> brb 00:37 < tsa> ___________________________________ 00:37 < tsa> \ stats, huebi? / 00:37 < tsa> ----------------------------------- 00:37 < tsa> \ 00:37 < tsa> \ 00:38 < tsa> .--. 00:38 < tsa> |o_o | 00:38 < tsa> |:_/ | 00:38 < tsa> // \ \ 00:38 < tsa> (| | ) 00:38 < tsa> /'\_ _/`\ 00:38 < tsa> \___)=(___/ 00:38 < tsa> narf. 00:38 < tsa> / am anfang ist boese. 00:39 < huebi> 00:39 < huebi> ___________________ 00:39 < huebi> < only second place > 00:39 < huebi> ------------------- 00:39 < huebi> \ / \ //\ 00:39 < huebi> \ |\___/| / \// \\ 00:39 < jonath[an]> bye ppl 00:39 < huebi> /0 0 \__ / // | \ \ 00:39 < huebi> / / \/_/ // | \ \ 00:39 < huebi> @_^_@'/ \/_ // | \ \ 00:39 < huebi> //_^_/ \/_ // | \ \ 00:39 < jonath[an]> bye 00:39 < huebi> ( //) | \/// | \ \ 00:39 < huebi> ( / /) _|_ / ) // | \ _\ 00:39 < jonath[an]> im away since now 00:39 < huebi> ( // /) '/,_ _ _/ ( ; -. | _ _\.-~ .-~~~^-. 00:39 < huebi> (( / / )) ,-{ _ `-.|.-~-. .~ `. 00:39 < huebi> (( // / )) '/\ / ~-. _ .-~ .-~^-. \ 00:39 < huebi> (( /// )) `. { } / \ \ 00:39 -!- jonath[an] is now known as tan[away] 00:39 < huebi> (( / )) .----~-.\ \-' .~ \ `. \^-. 00:39 < huebi> ///.----..> \ _ -~ `. ^-` ^-_ 00:39 < esden> ich gehe schlafen ... 00:39 < huebi> ///-._ _ _ _ _ _ _}^ - - - - ~ ~-- ,.-~ 00:39 < huebi> /.-~ 00:39 < huebi> bye jonath[an] 00:40 < esden> ich kann nimmer die asciis sehen ... 00:40 < esden> cu all 00:40 < huebi> nacht esden 00:40 < tsa> n8 esden *lach* 00:41 < tsa> ______________________________ 00:41 < tsa> < Beware huebi, I know Karate! > 00:41 < tsa> ------------------------------ 00:41 < tsa> \ ,__, 00:41 < tsa> \ (oo)____ 00:41 < tsa> (__) )\ 00:41 < tsa> ||--|| * 00:41 < tsa> 00:41 < tsa> ah..so is besser. 00:41 < esden> es tut mir leid aber ich glaube ihr uebertreibt bissel ... aber wenn es euch spass macht ... *kopfschuettel* 00:41 < tsa> esden: keine angst, das hoert schon wieder auf ;) 00:42 < huebi> ________________ 00:42 < huebi> < fucking karate > 00:42 < huebi> ---------------- 00:42 < huebi> \ \_______ 00:42 < huebi> v__v \ \ O ) 00:42 < huebi> (oo) ||----w | 00:42 < huebi> (__) || || \/\ 00:42 < huebi> 00:42 < huebi> cowsay -f mutilated fucking karate 00:42 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.44.43] has joined #rocklinux 00:43 < tsa> hm...hat auch was.. 00:43 < esden> jaja wenn der huebi mich in den stats ueberholt hat ... ich wusste ich sollte es nicht aufsetzen ... aber ich habe gedacht ihr seid ernstere menschen als im bchat ... 00:43 -!- wschlich [~wschlich@pD9E3E39C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Success) 00:43 < huebi> ______________________________________ 00:43 < huebi> I knwo the force is with you crchchc \ 00:43 < huebi> \ schhhh / 00:43 < huebi> -------------------------------------- 00:43 < huebi> \ ,-^-. 00:43 < huebi> \ !oYo! 00:43 < huebi> \ /./=\.\______ 00:43 < huebi> ## )\/\ 00:43 < huebi> ||-----w|| 00:43 < huebi> || || 00:44 < huebi> Cowth Vader 00:44 < esden> da habe ich es letztendlich ausgeschaltet denn die haben sich nonstop irgendwelche scheisse eisfallen lassen ... 00:44 < esden> naja egal 00:44 < esden> gute nacht ... 00:44 < tsa> n8 esden...bis morgen irgendwann.. 00:44 < huebi> esden: Das legt sic hwieder. Ich muss irgenwann auch mal arbeiten und schlafen. 00:45 < huebi> nacht esden 00:45 < huebi> cowsay passt _genau_ in die stats 00:45 < tsa> hehe 00:48 < tsa> mach nen package draus... 00:49 < huebi> jo, gute idee 00:49 < tsa> kleiner patch gegen install.sh und das sollte tun. 00:50 < huebi> das geht auf ohne patch nur in der cowsay.conf. 00:50 < tsa> oder das. 00:51 < huebi> echo "/opt/cowsay\n" | install.sh oder so aehnlich. 00:51 < tsa> z.B.... 00:52 < tsa> hm....wenn du morgen esden mit nem "cowsay -f small Hi esden" begruesst, dreht er durch ;-) 00:54 < huebi> hehe 00:54 < tan[away]> bye 00:54 -!- tan[away] [~jvargas@208.165.55.137] has quit ("< Listen The Silence... And The Voices Around It >") 00:54 < th_> von wem issen die libm? 00:55 < tsa> /usr/lib/libm.so ? 00:55 < tsa> sollte glibc sein.. 00:55 < th_> achso 00:56 < th_> damn 00:56 < th_> wo stehen da irgendwelche changelogs oder knownbugs? 00:56 < th_> oder gibts das nur zusammen mit glibc? 00:56 < tsa> ich denk mal, nur zusammen mit der glibc... 00:56 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@dhcp024-209-107-204.woh.rr.com] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 00:57 < tsa> also /usr/share/doc/packages/glibc/ChangeLog* 01:01 < th_> ok 01:01 < th_> thx 01:02 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@p50807A85.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:03 < tsa> hi hackbard 01:03 < hackbard> hi ! 01:03 < huebi> hi hackbard 01:07 < Mike1> hello franky boy 01:07 < Mike1> como estas? 01:08 < hackbard> !hola miguel! .bien. ?quieres me casar? 01:08 < hackbard> :) 01:09 < Mike1> shut up! 01:09 < Mike1> it certainly took you a while to eat huh 01:10 < Mike1> Bier Bier!!! i need Bier! 01:11 < tsa> casar????? 01:11 < tsa> i guess Mike1 now really needs some beer. 01:14 < Mike1> tsa yeah would you like one too? 01:14 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@dhcp024-209-107-204.woh.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux 01:14 < tsa> Mike1: sure.. 01:16 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@p50807A85.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("shutting up ...") 01:18 < huebi> ____________ 01:18 < huebi> < Good night > 01:18 < huebi> ------------ 01:18 < huebi> \ ,__, 01:18 < huebi> \ (oo)____ 01:18 < huebi> (__) )\ 01:18 < huebi> ||--|| * 01:18 < Mike1> oh shit i think he misunderstood me 01:19 < Mike1> n8 huebi 01:19 < tsa> n8 huebi. 01:20 < tsa> que paso con hackbard? 01:21 < Mike1> i think he took it personal when i said shut up 01:21 < tsa> hm....i don't see a reason to do so....although i still don't understand why he wanted to marry you.. 01:22 < Mike1> tsa just joking around 01:22 < th_> damn 01:23 < th_> hab mich von meinem IP-drucker ausgesperrt 01:23 < tsa> i see.. 01:23 < tsa> th_: brauchst du was zum lachen? 01:23 < tsa> babelfish.altavista.com und lass dir die rocklinux.org auf deutsch uebersetzen. 01:24 < tsa> Willkommen zum homepage FELSENLinux 01:24 < th_> FELSENLinux is gut ;) 01:25 < th_> ich hab schon oft aus spass uebersetzungen machen lassen 01:25 < th_> der spassfaktor erhoeht sich wenn man ein paar mal durch verschiedene sprachen uebersetzt 01:25 < tsa> jupp, das regelt. 01:26 < tsa> FELSEN Linux ist eine moderne Linux Verteilung mit einem leistungsfähigem Automobi 01:26 < tsa> stammt aus dem readme.html. 01:27 < tsa> Mike1: try translating www.rocklinux.org to spanish with babelfish.altavista.com ...i guess you'll laugh your ass off.. 01:27 < tsa> the german translation is pretty evil.. 01:28 * Mike1 has been translating the rock site to spanish :) 01:28 < Mike1> tsa i guess those translation machines are pretty stupid 01:29 < tsa> Mike1: they sure are....but reading it can really be fun. 01:29 < Mike1> haha for sure 01:29 < Mike1> also there is www.freetranslation.com 01:31 * tsa testing. 01:33 < tsa> hm...nice....but it doesn't translate when you use the links on a page 01:35 < tsa> anyway, nice results. 01:35 < tsa> Üble Wanze in Sendmail-Paket (Fels 1.5.12) 01:39 -!- jonath[an] [~jvargas@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 01:39 < jonath[an]> re 01:39 < tsa> hi jonath[an] 02:08 < jonath[an]> ill leave now 02:08 < jonath[an]> bye guys 02:08 < jonath[an]> have a good night 02:08 < tsa> cu jonath[an] 02:08 -!- jonath[an] [~jvargas@208.165.55.137] has left #rocklinux () 02:15 < Mike1> tsa whata re you doing? 02:15 < tsa> Mike1: trying to fix the damn nessus package. 02:15 < tsa> abandoned since months.. 02:15 < Mike1> hehe 02:15 < Mike1> ok have fun 02:17 < tsa> i do, i do.. 02:18 < tsa> it was at version 1.0.9, current is 1.2.0 .. 02:18 < tsa> *sigh* 02:18 < Mike1> hehe nice 02:19 < tsa> anyway, i've already done the version update. now i'm trying to force it into prefix=/usr, not prefix=/opt/nessus, as it used to be. 02:23 < Mike1> oh ok 02:38 -!- tfing [~GD@APoitiers-103-1-3-57.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ("gn8") 02:43 < tsa> ok....nessus is updated, now finally compiles, works. 02:43 < tsa> i'll go to bed. 02:43 < tsa> cu all. 02:43 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082BDCD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 03:33 -!- th_ [th@delta.boerde.de] has quit ("</wach>") 03:39 < Mike1> anybody awake 03:39 < Mike1> ??? 04:06 -!- jonath[an] [~jvargas@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 04:06 < jonath[an]> re 04:11 < Mike1> hi 04:11 < Mike1> jonath[an] you still at uni? 04:11 < jonath[an]> sure 04:11 < jonath[an]> :) 04:12 < Mike1> what tha F%CK are you doing there this time? 04:13 < jonath[an]> hehe 04:13 < jonath[an]> is not too late 04:13 < jonath[an]> i want to open an application in a port 04:13 < Mike1> yes i know i just didn't spect u would be here 04:13 < Mike1> i see 04:13 < jonath[an]> im looking for that in IRC 04:13 < jonath[an]> :) 04:14 < Mike1> hehe 04:14 * Mike1 Building rock-1.7-DEV arch=Sparc 04:14 < Mike1> :) 04:14 < jonath[an]> :) 04:14 < jonath[an]> where? 04:15 < Mike1> my Ultra 5... i'm still at my office 04:15 < Mike1> hacking HDW code, i've been away from that for a while 04:15 < jonath[an]> sure, i know 04:16 < Mike1> jonath[an] would you like to build 1.5.4 tomorrow with me? 04:16 < jonath[an]> kool 04:16 < jonath[an]> maybe 04:16 < jonath[an]> if u can of course 04:16 < jonath[an]> why 1.5.4? 04:16 < Mike1> jonath[an] i am inviting you too 04:16 < Mike1> i ment 1.5.14 sorry 04:17 < jonath[an]> ahh ok 04:17 < Mike1> its up to you if you want to come 04:17 < Mike1> i'm planning to stay untill very late tomorrow 04:17 < jonath[an]> ok, it sounds interesting 04:17 < Mike1> its is 04:17 < jonath[an]> ok :) 04:18 < Mike1> also i can explain you some of the HDW code 04:18 < jonath[an]> donde puedo conseguir buena informacion acerca de Sockets y Escuchadores? 04:18 < Mike1> and maybe we could both go for some ELKS building 04:18 < jonath[an]> sure, kool! 04:18 < jonath[an]> hehe, ok 04:18 < Mike1> escuchadores = sniffers? 04:19 < jonath[an]> no se en ingles 04:19 < jonath[an]> me refiero a listen(), connect(0, etc 04:20 < Mike1> www.google.com 04:20 < Mike1> :) 04:20 < jonath[an]> well, i dunno how to do a specific search 04:21 < Mike1> ok to freshmeat.net 04:21 < jonath[an]> i want a HOW-to, manual, tutorial, or sth like that 04:21 < Mike1> search for sniffit 04:21 < jonath[an]> i was looking at gogole 04:21 < Mike1> mmm ok them... 04:21 < jonath[an]> hehe, last time u told me about sniffit 04:21 < jonath[an]> i couldnt install it 04:21 < Mike1> https://www.lawebdelprogramador.com 04:21 < Mike1> https://docs.online.bg 04:22 < jonath[an]> ok 04:22 < Mike1> have a look at it should give you some info 04:22 < Mike1> also go to... 04:23 < Mike1> ./usr/doc/HOWTOS/* 04:23 < jonath[an]> hehe, ok 04:26 < Mike1> found anything interesting? 04:26 < jonath[an]> yet no 04:28 < Mike1> ok also i will show you some books i have here tomorrow they may help you 04:28 < jonath[an]> ok, im interested n learn more and more each day 04:28 < jonath[an]> :) 04:29 < Mike1> por algo eres el candidato numero 1 a ser mi discipulo 04:29 < jonath[an]> jejeje, gracias 04:29 < jonath[an]> :) 04:29 < Mike1> claro esta eso depende de si estas interesado o no 04:29 < jonath[an]> por supuesto! 04:30 < jonath[an]> si tienes libros disponibles manana me llevo un saco, me compro buenos anteojos, y me siento a leer 04:30 < jonath[an]> :) 04:30 < Mike1> que si tengo libros? cuantos meses te piensas quedar a leer? 04:31 < jonath[an]> hasta que me salgan pelos blancos 04:31 < jonath[an]> ;) 04:31 < Mike1> hehe bien 04:32 < jonath[an]> +tienes libros? 04:32 < Mike1> esperame un segundo tengo que hacer arreglos a un server, esque acabo de terminar de instalar un servidor que sera nuestro nuevo file server 04:32 < jonath[an]> ok 04:32 < Mike1> jonath[an] si tengo varios aqui y puedo traer algunos de mi casa 04:33 < jonath[an]> ok 04:33 < jonath[an]> si puedes prestarme algunos, traelos 04:34 < Mike1> creo que si 04:35 < jonath[an]> ok 04:43 * Mike1 testing file server 04:54 < Mike1> jonath[an] its looking good 04:55 < Mike1> just a few more lines in /ect/samba/smb.conf and it will be ready 05:13 < Mike1> jonath[an] any luck yet? 05:19 -!- esden [weasel@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:19 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: Do something for your health use ROCK Linux (https://www.rocklinux.org) 05:19 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [Mon Apr 15 21:06:46 2002] 05:19 (Users #rocklinux) 05:19 [ blindy|sleep] [ h0h0 ] [ jonath[an] ] [ rxr-zzZZ] [ surprise ] 05:19 [ esden ] [ huebi] [ Mike1 ] [ skaar ] [ wschlich_] 05:19 [ fake ] [ inode] [ praenti_ZzZz] [ SMP ] 05:19 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 14 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 05:19 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Mon Apr 1 00:17:34 2002 05:19 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 8 secs 05:25 < Mike1> jonath[an] its finally working :) 05:34 < jonath[an]> hey 05:34 < jonath[an]> im back 05:35 < jonath[an]> i was working with Java in other PC 05:35 < jonath[an]> :p 05:36 < Mike1> jonath[an] ok 05:36 < jonath[an]> Mike1: que estas ensamblando? 05:36 < jonath[an]> as -Qy -s -o rpc_cmsg.op .. 05:38 < Mike1> estaba configurando un file server con samba 05:38 < Mike1> ya esta listo :) 05:39 < jonath[an]> ahh ok 05:39 < Mike1> comaprte archivos e impresoras 05:39 < jonath[an]> yo nunca he usado samba 05:39 < jonath[an]> si, lo se 05:39 < Mike1> manana dejaras de decir eso 05:39 < jonath[an]> hehe 05:39 < jonath[an]> seguro que si 05:39 < jonath[an]> :p 05:39 < Mike1> vamos a ver que loquera hacemos 05:39 < jonath[an]> jeje 05:39 < jonath[an]> ok 05:39 < Mike1> tengo varias ideas 05:40 < jonath[an]> como por ejemplo? 05:40 < Mike1> puede ser una o varias de las siguientes 05:40 < Mike1> servidor de fax 05:40 < Mike1> serivodor de CVS o RSNC 05:40 < Mike1> RSYNC* 05:41 < Mike1> compilar rock 05:41 < Mike1> hacer un firewall bien bravo 05:41 < Mike1> o mejor todas :) 05:41 < jonath[an]> todas estan cool 05:41 < jonath[an]> ! 05:41 < Mike1> sip 05:41 < jonath[an]> si se pueden todas mejor 05:41 < jonath[an]> :) 05:42 < Mike1> ya veres incluso yo necesito necesito domrir a veces 05:42 < Mike1> veres/veremos 05:42 < jonath[an]> hehe, ok 05:42 < jonath[an]> ya vas a la casa? 05:42 < Mike1> estoy recogiendo mis cosas si 05:42 < Mike1> pq? 05:42 < jonath[an]> no, decia yo 05:43 < Mike1> vos? 05:43 < jonath[an]> no hay problema si me quedo un rato en nemesis? 05:43 < jonath[an]> jalo como en media hora 05:43 < jonath[an]> necesito terminar algo mas 05:43 < Mike1> te di una cuenta podes estar toda la noche si quieres 05:44 < Mike1> mientras nemesis este online tu puedes usarlo sin importar que este yo o no 05:44 < jonath[an]> ok :) 05:44 < jonath[an]> que recursos tiene nemesis disponibles? 05:44 < jonath[an]> para usuarios comunes y corrientes 05:44 < Mike1> de todo un poco hehe 05:45 < Mike1> tiene lo normal de cualquier estacion que da servicios a usuarios corrientes 05:45 < Mike1> si necesitas algo solo mandame un mail y lo pides 05:45 < Mike1> mike@odin.informatica.co.cr 05:45 < jonath[an]> hehe, ok 05:46 < jonath[an]> puedo recivir correo desde afuera? 05:46 * jonath[an] supone que no 05:46 < jonath[an]> :) 05:47 < Mike1> se podria arreglar 05:47 < Mike1> pero manana 05:47 < Mike1> ahora me voy a ir a mi casa 05:47 < Mike1> :) 05:47 < jonath[an]> ok 05:47 < jonath[an]> buenas noches Miguel 05:47 < jonath[an]> trae algunos libros interesantes, si puedes 05:47 < Mike1> solo disculpa que la coneccion este tan lerda estoy bajando multiples cosas desde varios tarros 05:48 < Mike1> asi que el ancho de banda de esta muy consumido 05:48 < jonath[an]> ahh, no no, no importa 05:48 < Mike1> ok asi lo hare 05:48 < jonath[an]> mas bien esta muy rapido, en comparacion con gate 05:48 < Mike1> te prometo que no estara mas lerdo de lo que esta en este momento 05:48 < jonath[an]> u otros lugares 05:48 < Mike1> hehe a bueno 05:48 < jonath[an]> hehe, como tu digas 05:48 < Mike1> manana lo vas a ver con full ancho de banda a ver que piensas 05:49 < Mike1> en todo caso que tengas buenas noches john 05:49 < jonath[an]> jaja, ok 05:49 < jonath[an]> :) 05:49 < Mike1> no se acueste tarde manana nos desvelamos 05:49 < jonath[an]> igual 05:49 < jonath[an]> jajajajajaja 05:49 < jonath[an]> ok ok 05:49 < jonath[an]> aro aro 05:49 < Mike1> night all 05:49 * Mike1 zZzZzZzZ 05:49 < jonath[an]> n8 Mike1 05:50 < Mike1> one more thing trea cds 05:50 < Mike1> trae* 05:50 < jonath[an]> ok 05:50 < jonath[an]> mas o menos cuantos? 05:50 < Mike1> 1 caja ? :D 05:51 < jonath[an]> puede ser 05:51 < Mike1> ok 05:51 < Mike1> bye 05:51 < jonath[an]> bye 05:59 < jonath[an]> cya 05:59 < jonath[an]> i go now! 05:59 -!- jonath[an] [~jvargas@208.165.55.137] has left #rocklinux () 07:43 < huebi> moin 08:01 -!- term_emu [~pm@beaufort.wyzant.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:02 -!- rxr-zzZZ [~rene@port-213-20-128-153.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08:04 < term_emu> re 08:04 -!- term_emu is now known as term_aweh 08:06 -!- rxr-zzZZ [~rene@port-213-20-128-172.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:37 -!- lrschwebe [~robert@pD9E34AE1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:37 -!- lrschwebe [~robert@pD9E34AE1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 08:37 -!- rschwebel [~robert@pD9E34AE1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:32 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@pD9EB704D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:32 < aszlig> hullo 09:35 < huebi> hi aszlig 09:45 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@pD9EB704D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 09:54 -!- rschwebel [~robert@pD9E34AE1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("ircII EPIC4-1.1.1 -- Are we there yet?") 09:54 -!- rschwebel [~robert@pD9E34AE1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:55 < rschwebel> Hi, Somebody here? 09:59 < huebi> ______________________ 09:59 < huebi> < Jo. Moin rschwebel ! > 09:59 < huebi> ---------------------- 09:59 < huebi> \ ^__^ 09:59 < huebi> \ (oo)\_______ 10:00 < huebi> (__)\ )\/\ 10:00 < huebi> ||----w | 10:00 < huebi> || || 10:00 < rschwebel> Moinsen. 10:00 < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/cowsay_3.03.orig.tar.gz 10:00 < huebi> hehe 10:01 < rschwebel> I'm currently searching for a method to automate my handmade distributions for embedded machines. 10:01 < rschwebel> I've started to do something similar to ROCK some time ago, 10:01 < rschwebel> and at the yesterday's LUG meeting in Braunschweig somebody 10:01 < rschwebel> pointed me to the ROCK site... 10:02 < rschwebel> Now, I'm trying to make my first steps and find out if it fits my needs. 10:02 < rschwebel> I hope you can help me :-) 10:03 < rschwebel> To get a feeling for ROCK: is it possible to make a minimum installation, 10:03 < huebi> <- has been living in Braunscgweig for 21 Years, hehe 10:03 < rschwebel> let's say onyl kernel, (g)libc, shell, login? 10:03 < rschwebel> :-) 10:03 < rschwebel> I've studied there... 10:03 < huebi> rschwebel: Jo, thats possible. 10:03 < rschwebel> How? 10:04 < huebi> Just erase all you don't need from the configuration files 10:05 < rschwebel> Is there a central configuration file where this has to be done? 10:05 < rschwebel> Or something prebuilt, let's say for a floppy distro? 10:05 < huebi> No, there are several files. I do some work on getting only one Config file. 10:06 < rschwebel> In my homemade system I've done the configuration system with CML1, 10:06 < rschwebel> so you can generate it completely menu driven. 10:06 < rschwebel> It seems that there's something similar with ROCK, 10:07 < rschwebel> but I have the impression that just parts of the configuration are included? 10:07 < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/snapshots/rock-src-1.5.14.tar.bz2 <- the latest snapshot. 10:07 < rschwebel> What's the difference between the branches? I've downloaded the latest 1.7.x snapshot. 10:08 < huebi> All the configuration is in rock includet. But there are _many_ files. 10:08 < rschwebel> ... which may be difficult if you build for several systems. 10:08 < huebi> 1.7 is development and does not compile in the moment. 10:09 < rschwebel> What I need is something which sucks in a configuration (in whatever format)... 10:09 < huebi> 1.5.14 is stable with only a few known bugs 10:09 < rschwebel> ... and makes a distro out of it. Note that this has to be done for quite 10:09 < rschwebel> a lot of different systems, so it should be easy. 10:09 < rschwebel> I mean, changing some well defined config files is ok, 10:10 < rschwebel> but it should be clear which ones. 10:10 < rschwebel> Ok, I'll try that version. 10:10 < huebi> I show you something.. moment 10:10 < rschwebel> Is there a CVS server for ROCK? 10:11 < huebi> Jo. Hmm. broken in the moment (CVS) 10:11 < huebi> I erased too much 10:13 < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/sources/rock-1.5.14/ <- here is the source 10:14 < rschwebel> I'm currently downloading it. 10:14 < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/sources/rock-1.5.14/subdists/ <- have a look here. Here are several subdistributions 10:16 * rschwebel wonders where to get a faster network connection 10:16 < rschwebel> Argh, what's my IRC client doing? 10:17 < rschwebel> Can you hear me? 10:17 < huebi> jo 10:17 < rschwebel> Umpf. I'm still learning how this irc stuff works. 10:17 < rschwebel> Sometimes something goes wrong :-) 10:18 < rschwebel> What are _you_ using ROCK for? Normal desktop stuff? 10:20 < huebi> for Oracle, MySQL databases, Apache, and of course for my desktop PCs 10:20 < rschwebel> Which one of the subdistributions would you recommend? 10:21 < rschwebel> My first impression was "Rescue System", but 250 MB doesn't seem to be minimal... 10:22 < huebi> I never tested a subdistribution. Everytime I build the whole thing for rock-debugging. 10:23 < rschwebel> Umpf, I neither have the space, nor the processor power, nor the time to do this now... 10:23 < rschwebel> Is it possible to tell the Download script to download just for a subdistro? 10:23 < huebi> jo. 10:24 < rschwebel> How? Didn't find a hint in --help. 10:24 < huebi> It'll tell you if you dont invoke it with parameters 10:25 < huebi> you can also get single packages 10:29 < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/ <- woks again ;) 10:29 < rschwebel> Wait a minute, a phone call... 10:30 < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/ChangeLog 10:30 < huebi> some more info 10:30 < huebi> ;) 10:31 -!- tomik [~tomik@193.109.181.247] has joined #rocklinux 10:32 < huebi> hi tomik 10:32 < tomik> hello 10:32 < rschwebel> I'm back. 10:32 < huebi> tomik: have you some experience with a very small rock build? 10:33 < tomik> small? 10:33 < tomik> how much small :) 10:33 < rschwebel> As small as possible :-) 10:34 < rschwebel> At the moment, I just want to try it with a small configuration (let's say what fits on one disk). 10:34 < rschwebel> Later it will be for embedded systems. 10:34 < tomik> i have relative small rock for use on my routers ... 40 MB 10:35 < rschwebel> I wouldn't call that actually small ;-) 10:35 < huebi> rschwebel: in 1.7 there is a subdist with dietlibc IIRC 10:36 < tomik> ok...there is everything i need 10:36 < rschwebel> But huebi just said that 1.7 doesn't compile at the moment. 10:36 < rschwebel> I still didn't find out how to select a subdistribution. 10:37 < tomik> pls where is some rock-1.5.13(or higher)-i586.iso to download? 10:38 < rschwebel> huebi: Neither "scripts/Download --help" nor "scripts/Help Download" has a hint... 10:38 < rschwebel> Or I have penguins on my eyes ;-) 10:40 < huebi> ./scripts/Download -base 10:40 < huebi> ./scripts/Download -passive-ftp -base 10:41 < huebi> ./scripts/Download <- for help, cow says 10:41 < rschwebel> Yes, but how do I tell him not do download _everything_, but only what is needed for the subdistro? 10:41 < huebi> ./scripts/Download -passive-ftp -package Package(s) 10:42 < huebi> the packages do you find in: 10:42 < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/sources/rock-1.5.14/base-config/ 10:43 < rschwebel> Hmm, I assume I didn't understand the concept of subdistros yet. 10:43 < rschwebel> In base-config there is about _everything_. 10:43 < rschwebel> Isn't a subdistro a set of packages which can be selected? 10:45 < huebi> Compiling/building and installing are different. 10:46 < rschwebel> The first thing I would like to do is to define a set of packages (which I would consider a subdistro?) I want to install. 10:46 < rschwebel> Then say: "download these" 10:46 < rschwebel> Then probably configure and make. 10:46 < rschwebel> Did I misinterpret the concept? 10:48 < huebi> for building there are only 3 build in possibilities: 10:48 < huebi> base, base+opt base+opt+ext(ensions) 10:49 < huebi> But you can write your own emb(edded) 11:06 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:06 < netcrow> hi 11:07 < huebi> hi netti ;) 11:07 < huebi> netcrow: hast du gestern die Kuehe mitgekriegt? 11:08 < netcrow> ne 11:08 < netcrow> muss ich mir mal das log durchlesen ;) 11:08 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Client Quit) 11:09 < huebi> _______ 11:09 < huebi> < moooh > 11:09 < huebi> ------- 11:09 < huebi> \ ^__^ 11:09 < huebi> \ (oo)\_______ 11:09 < huebi> (__)\ )\/\ 11:09 < huebi> ||----w | 11:09 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:09 < huebi> || || 11:09 < netcrow> so 11:09 < huebi> da war ebend eine 11:09 < netcrow> huebi: ich hab da noch ne frage.. 11:09 < netcrow> du hast doch mal diesen vsftpd aufgesetzt? 11:10 < huebi> ______________ 11:10 < huebi> < Ja, habe ich > 11:10 < huebi> -------------- 11:10 < huebi> \ ,__, 11:10 < huebi> \ (oo)____ 11:10 < huebi> (__) )\ 11:10 < huebi> ||--|| * 11:10 < netcrow> *lol* 11:10 < huebi> So und jetzt is gut mit muuh 11:11 < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/cowsay_3.03.orig.tar.gz 11:11 < netcrow> wie mach ich das vsftpd in die inetd.conf? 11:11 < netcrow> weil er startret ja nur mit inetd 11:12 < huebi> ftpstream tcp nowait.500 root /opt/vsftpd/sbin/vsftpd vsftpd 11:12 < huebi> ftp stream tcp nowait.500 root /opt/vsftpd/sbin/vsftpd vsftpd 11:12 < netcrow> muss ich meinen versuch schnell angucken 11:12 < huebi> irssi schluck tabs 11:12 -!- rschwebel [~robert@pD9E34AE1.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux () 11:13 < netcrow> für was is das nowait.500? 11:14 < huebi> man inetd und nach nowait suchen - ist sehr ausfuehrlich 11:15 < netcrow> ja, ich fauler hund ;) 11:18 < huebi> Habe ich hochgesetzt auf 500 weil ich den lokal benutze und dann sind mit wget ploetzlich nicht mehr die prozesse gestartet. 11:20 < netcrow> hehe das irclog von heut is ja wie ein bilderbuch ;-) 11:20 < huebi> netcrow: hehe, Die Kuehe durfen jetzt wieder grasen gehen. 11:20 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:20 < holyolli> hi 11:21 < huebi> _________________ 11:21 < huebi> < moooin holyolli > 11:21 < huebi> ----------------- 11:21 < huebi> \ ^__^ 11:21 < huebi> \ (oo)\_______ 11:21 < huebi> (__)\ )\/\ 11:21 < huebi> ||----w | 11:21 < huebi> || || 11:21 < netcrow> *g* 11:21 < esden> morgen 11:22 < netcrow> hi esden 11:22 < huebi> hiesden 11:22 < huebi> hi esden 11:22 < esden> hi huebi 11:22 < huebi> esden: Na schon wach. Hast du von Kuehen getraeumt? 11:23 < holyolli> *lol* 11:23 < holyolli> moin huebi 11:23 < holyolli> hi esden 11:23 < holyolli> hi netcrow 11:23 < esden> ja ich haba davon getreumt dann ich einen autokik eingerichtet habe ... der jemanden der im channel mit kuehen spammt aus dem channel kickt ... 11:24 < esden> ich werde glaube ich damit anfangen ... 11:25 < holyolli> esden: ohne op...? 11:25 < holyolli> ;) 11:25 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o esden] by ChanServ 11:25 < huebi> gestern auf #reallife ging das rund mit cowsay und figlet. Dann habe ich die beiden Programme auch noch sofort im Netz gefunden und jetzt hat der IRC BSE 11:25 <@esden> dass ist kein problem 11:26 <@esden> ja dann muss ich glaube ich den channel heilen ... 11:26 <@esden> ;-) 11:26 * netcrow hat a angebissene wienersemmel vor sich... 11:26 * holyolli hat ne tastatur vor sich... 11:26 < huebi> netcrow: Was willst DU uns damit sagen? 11:27 < holyolli> .oO(wtf is eigendlich ne wienersemmel?) 11:27 < netcrow> huebi: weiß nicht, aber ich musste das loswerden... 11:27 < huebi> ARRGHH! Coffee (and cow) not found. Operator haltet! - brb ;-) 11:28 < holyolli> ./dcc send huebi coffee 11:28 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o esden] by esden 11:29 < huebi> disc full *gurgel* 11:29 < huebi> es gibt auch brennende Scharfe. Darf ich? 11:32 < esden> nein ... 11:41 < netcrow> hm, Mozilla 1.0 RC1 is draußen... 11:41 < huebi> netcrow: Heise weiss das auch schon 11:41 < netcrow> ja, gut so ;> 11:42 -!- rxr-zzZZ is now known as rxr 11:42 < rxr> moin people 11:42 < netcrow> hi rxr 11:43 < huebi> moin rxr. 11:43 < huebi> rxr: esden mag keine Kuehe ;( 11:44 < holyolli> hi rxr 11:44 < rxr> Cool Mike's U5 finished the gcc-3.0.4 ;-) 11:49 < rxr> Mike1: You have a working gcc-3.0.4 in /home/rene/opt ;-) I'll do more work on the ROCK autobench this afternoon and will run a gcc vs. gcc3 on your sparc ;-) - But first I'll have some hours Electronics at the Universitiy ... 11:54 -!- rxr is now known as rxr_fh 11:58 < esden> huebi: 1... 2... jaaa aber nicht jede paar sekunden eine ... ... irgendwann wirde es einfach zu viel ... 11:59 < huebi> esden: Ich habe die KKuehe zum grasen nach #flood geschickt 12:02 < holyolli> .oO(tsa ist grad hier angekommen und wir wollten grad für esden ne kuhsessen hier aufm channel machen... ;-) 12:02 < holyolli> kuhsession even ;) 12:02 < huebi> ok 12:02 < huebi> join #flood ? 12:03 < holyolli> mompl 12:05 < holyolli> < o.k. - ich bin drin > 12:05 < holyolli> --------------------- 12:05 < holyolli> \ ^__^ 12:05 < holyolli> \ (oo)\_______ 12:05 < holyolli> (__)\ )\/\ 12:05 < holyolli> ||----w | 12:05 < holyolli> || || 12:05 < huebi> root@imf001c3:~# cowsay muuh |wall *LOL* 12:05 < holyolli> 12:05 < holyolli> *rotfl* 12:05 -!- tsa [~tsa@rossini.marcant.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:05 < holyolli> huhu tsa 12:05 < tsa> cowsay -f small moin. 12:07 < holyolli> cowthink is esden noch da? 12:10 < holyolli> .oO( "cowsay huhu esden | mail -s kuhgruss esden@rocklinux.org" ) 12:10 < esden> ... 12:10 < esden> ja ich bin noch da ... 12:10 < tsa> hi esden... 12:11 < esden> und ich wurde gerade von blindcoder gestoppt dich zu kicken ... also wenn er wieder da ist bedanke dich bei ihm ;-) 12:12 < holyolli> *g* 12:12 < huebi> /exec cowsay huhu esden 12:13 < esden> ... 12:15 * huebi is thinking about if a kernel is really nessesary for the cows.... 12:15 < esden> ok ab jetzt werde ich meine compile outputs im channel posten ;-) 12:15 < holyolli> mach doch :Ü 12:15 < huebi> /exec echo /dev/random ?? 12:15 < esden> huebi: ok 12:16 < huebi> /exec echo /dev/cow/[1-256] 12:16 < huebi> /exec cat /dev/cow/[1-256] - now it wuergs 12:29 < tsa> hm.... 12:29 < huebi> Zuku"nftige dRock-Entwicklung zum Mergen mit Baum des FELSENS 1,7 12:29 < tsa> insmod cowsay.o 12:30 < huebi> lol 12:30 < tsa> jo 12:30 < holyolli> hehe 12:30 < huebi> babelfish halt 12:31 < tsa> FELSEN Linux - dieses schaukelt Sie! 12:31 < holyolli> *lol 12:32 < tomik> :)) 12:32 < tomik> cow... 12:34 < tsa> aus dem ML-Archuiv 12:34 < tsa> dRock 1,4,1; Seiltänzerlesersystemabstürze 12:35 < huebi> Muuuuh! *LOOOL* 12:35 < tsa> na, wer erraet es? 12:35 < holyolli> .oO(weia) 12:35 < tsa> nich nachgucken. 12:35 < holyolli> <-- sieht es schon auf tsas moni 12:35 < holyolli> ;) 12:35 < tsa> ....und die Loesung ist: 12:35 < tsa> dRock 1.4.1; Acrobat reader crashes 12:35 < huebi> jaa 12:36 < tsa> das ist pervers. 12:36 < huebi> hab ich's doch nicht gewusst ;) 12:36 < tsa> hehe 12:36 < huebi> Gesellschaftsfreudige Huelsenfruchte? 12:36 < huebi> Kontaktlinsen ;-) 12:37 < holyolli> *lol* 12:37 < tsa> LOL 12:37 < huebi> tsa: You need the SUN Patches, don't you? 12:38 < tsa> huebi: sure i do. 12:38 < huebi> Do you've got a tape drive? 12:38 < tsa> Ich diskreditiere nicht den CVS-Behälter, wann immer ich kann! 12:38 < tsa> haha 12:38 < tsa> huebi: dds3. 12:39 < tsa> Vendor: HP Model: C1537A Rev: L708 12:39 < huebi> ok. I've got a SGI Sony DDS3. I put it on tape and send it to you. What make is your drive? 12:40 < huebi> Ah, I see 12:40 < tsa> are sgi dds drives anything special? hvd? 12:41 < huebi> no, but DDS3 is not DDS3 12:41 < tsa> hm.... 12:42 < huebi> The Sony has one more head inside. If I recorded some data with Sony it was _very_slow on HP. 12:43 < tsa> and the other way round - can the sony drive read tapes faster that were written on hp? 12:44 < huebi> tsa: I never tested that. 12:45 < tsa> off for breakfast....bbl. 12:45 -!- tsa is now known as tsa|eat 12:45 < huebi> guten Hunger 12:45 < tsa|eat> danke. 12:45 < huebi> tsa|eat: Schmatz nicht so laut ;_ 12:55 -!- swe_deb [~guest@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has joined #rocklinux 12:55 -!- swe_deb is now known as anders 12:55 < anders> re 12:59 < fake> hi 13:13 < fake> hm... 13:13 < fake> what do i need the dietlibc for? 13:13 < fake> in 1.7 13:14 < anders> fake: I guess if you wanna do embedded stuff, of install a very tiny system.. 13:14 < anders> glibc is rather big... 13:15 < huebi> fake: esden is working on dietlibc 13:16 < anders> huebi/esden: what are the space savings with the dietlibc compared to the full glibc? any loss of functionality in the dietlibc? 13:16 < fake> no i mean 13:16 < fake> do i NEED it for any other package? 13:16 < fake> or may i safely ignore it? 13:18 < huebi> fake: ignore it. It's, like anders said, for very small subdists 13:20 < huebi> anders: I never used dietlibc 13:20 < fake> (i knew what it IS, i jsut wanted to knwo what it has to do with rock ;) but thanks) 13:20 < fake> rock-generic 13:21 < fake> hwo can i exclude a package from a build? 13:33 < fake> damn it 13:34 < fake> Removing old stuff in build/1.7.0-DEV-mips-generic-expert-find/tools/ ... 13:34 < fake> Creating build/1.7.0-DEV-mips-generic-expert-find/tools/bin/cc-wrapper ... 13:34 < fake> /usr/mips-unknown-linux/lib/crt1.o: In function `__start': 13:34 < fake> /usr/mips-unknown-linux/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x4c): undefined reference to `__libc_start_main' 13:34 < fake> /tmp/cc9yEBTf.o: In function `main': 13:35 < fake> /tmp/cc9yEBTf.o(.text+0x88): undefined reference to `getenv' 13:35 < fake> ... (continues for a hell lot of lines and functions) ... 13:35 < fake> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/mips-unknown-linux/2.95.3/libgcc.a(__main.o): In function `__do_global_ctors': 13:35 < fake> __main.o(.text+0x14c): undefined reference to `atexit' 13:35 < fake> babumm 13:38 < fake> its not linking against the glibc? 13:48 -!- clifford [~clifford@62.46.3.250] has joined #rocklinux 13:49 < fake> cliff! 13:49 < clifford> hi 13:49 < fake> i need you! 13:49 < clifford> wie geht's der indy? 13:49 < fake> not as good as it should 13:49 < fake> it built the glibc, binutils and gcc2 13:49 < clifford> aha - i see. what's the problem? 13:50 < fake> but if i chroot into the root 13:50 < fake> and gen a printf("Hello, World"); 13:50 < fake> .c file 13:50 < fake> and try gcc 13:50 < fake> it says: 13:50 < fake> indigo:/external/rock-src/build/1.7.0-DEV-mips-generic-expert-find/root# chroot . /bin/bash 13:51 < fake> # gcc -o test ./test.c 13:51 < fake> /usr/mips-unknown-linux/lib/crt1.o: In function `__start': 13:51 < fake> /usr/mips-unknown-linux/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x4c): undefined reference to `__libc_start_main' 13:51 < fake> /tmp/cc5ikee5.o: In function `main': 13:51 < fake> /tmp/cc5ikee5.o(.text+0x50): undefined reference to `printf' 13:51 < fake> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/mips-unknown-linux/2.95.3/libgcc.a(__main.o): In function `__do_global_ctors': 13:51 < fake> __main.o(.text+0x14c): undefined reference to `atexit' 13:51 < fake> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 13:51 < clifford> gibc compiled without any poblems and installed correctly? 13:52 < fake> it said so 13:52 < clifford> is it possible that I can login to your indy remotly? 13:52 < fake> jop 13:52 < fake> just a sec 13:52 < clifford> great. 13:54 < fake> plz tell me what you do ;) 13:55 < huebi> or use screen :-) 13:55 < fake> huebi *g* 13:55 < fake> clifford : debian >_< 13:56 < clifford> fake: could you create /home/clifford pls? 13:56 < fake> ocourse ;)) 13:57 < fake> should be there now 14:04 < clifford> fake: seltsam - es sieht so aus als ob gcc standardmaessig beim erstellen eines binaries nicht gegen libc linkt .. 14:05 < fake> ... achne... ;) 14:05 < fake> ich habe uebrigens schon von hand /etc/ld.so.conf angelegt, war aber umsons.. 14:05 < fake> +t 14:08 < holyolli> re 14:09 < holyolli> moin clifford :) 14:09 < holyolli> hi fake 14:09 -!- tsa|eat is now known as tsa 14:09 < fake> hi! 14:09 < holyolli> eat?? 14:09 < holyolli> tsa: ich dachte, wir hätten ebn gekickert? 14:09 < holyolli> *wunder* 14:10 < fake> tsa hunt animal tsa eat 14:10 < tsa> holyolli: jaja....sei ruhig und arbeite. 14:10 < fake> ;) 14:10 < tsa> hehe 14:10 < holyolli> tsa: arbyten == www.ebay.de? 14:10 < tsa> ACK: 14:10 < holyolli> .oO(treffer) 14:10 < tsa> hehe. 14:14 < clifford> fake: im gcc spec file ist die lib section leer: 14:14 < clifford> /external/rock-src/build/1.7.0-DEV-mips-generic-expert-find/root/usr/lib/gcc-lib/mips-unknown-linux/2.95.3/specs 14:14 < fake> aha? 14:15 < fake> warum? 14:16 < clifford> das weiss ich nicht. jedenfalls hab ichs jetzt haendisch gefixed: 14:17 < clifford> nach der zeile '*lib:' gehoert eingefuegt: 14:17 < fake> ah, eine a.out in / ;) 14:17 < clifford> %{shared: -lc} %{!shared: %{mieee-fp:-lieee} %{pthread:-lpthread} %{profile:-lc_p} %{!profile: -lc}} 14:17 < fake> (chrooted /) 14:17 < clifford> fake: ja - bei deinem printf hast du uebrigens das \n vergessen .. 14:17 < fake> cliff> meine map kann grade ein backslash 14:18 < fake> die geschweiften klammern hatte ich per cut & paste ;) 14:18 < clifford> fake: das ist in der tat schlecht ... :-) 14:18 < fake> clifford was kann ich jetzt machen damit das beim naechsten build nicht wieder passiert? 14:19 < clifford> fake: das versuche ich grad' rauszufinden. 14:19 < fake> gut...... 14:19 < clifford> .. ich hab' dir uerigens das \n eingesetzt .. :-) 14:19 < fake> dietlibc will auch nuesch aba das is mir estmal egal. 14:20 < fake> clifford: cool, danke dann hab ich jetzt immer eins zum cut&pasten ;) 14:20 < clifford> fake: dietlibc ist im augenblick auch nicht wirklich wichtig .. 14:20 < fake> eben ^^ 14:24 -!- tomik [~tomik@193.109.181.247] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 14:25 < clifford> fake: gcc builden braucht auf der kiste eine stunde?! (ouch!) 14:26 < huebi> E4500 <- Sloowlaris. weia, weia, weia! Needs 20s for scp 100MB. pc to pc 9-11s 14:26 < fake> clifford: jop. schau erst gar nicht nach wie lange glibc braucht... 14:26 * clifford hat sich naemlich ueberlegt gcc neu zu builden. 14:26 < fake> und clifford: nicht die zeit umstellen... sond hakt die find-methode aus ;) 14:26 < fake> clifford: kein problem, meinerseits... 14:27 < fake> ich hab mit der kiste sonst nix vor ;) 14:27 < clifford> aber eins meinersets - ich muss naemlich bald wieder weg ... :-) 14:27 < fake> soll ich ihn neu bauen und dir das log schicken oder so? 14:27 < fake> aber... was bringt es wenn ich ihn neu bau? 14:28 < clifford> kannst du einfach Build-Target wieder anwerfen und sehen wie weit er kommt? 14:28 < fake> dann kommt doch wieder ein spec ohne libs raus, oder? 14:28 < fake> oder hast du was veraendert? 14:29 < clifford> vorher oder nachher (eher vorher) waere ein "./scripts/Build-Pkg -1 -root build/1.7.0-DEV-mips-generic-expert-find/root -noclearsrc gcc2" gut. 14:29 < fake> mach ich doch glatt 14:29 < fake> und rm _nodel_ oder? 14:30 < clifford> fake: gcc2 in stage 1 wird ja nicht automatisch nochmal gebuilded und in den darueberliegenden stages wird moeglicherwese das spec file richtig erstellt ... 14:30 < fake> koennte natuerlich sein. waere aber doof ;) 14:30 < clifford> fake: _nodel_ brauchst du nicht mehr weil in 1.7 Build-Target sowieso kein Cleanup aufruft .. 14:30 < clifford> also zuerst obriges command. 14:31 < fake> aha? Dokumetation luegt ;) 14:31 < fake> okay, und dann Build-Target 14:31 < clifford> dann wieder haendisches fixen des spec files (copier's die vorher einfach weg :-). 14:31 < clifford> dann Build-Target 14:31 < fake> okeee 14:31 < clifford> in welcher doku ist noch _nodel_ drinnen? 14:32 < fake> in meiner? nicht? 14:32 < fake> kann sein dass ichs mit der 1.5er verdreht ha 14:33 < clifford> aha. Ich blaib' noch kurz auf der kist um den flist wrapper zu testen .. 14:33 < fake> oke, dann wart ich noch. 14:34 < clifford> fake: brauchst' nicht - ich brauch dazu die ROCK Build umgebung nicht, nur die hardware und ein directory fuer meine temp files ... :-) 14:34 < fake> axo... bedien dich 14:35 < fake> == 21:34:41 =[1]=> Building base/gcc2 [2.95.3 1.7.0-DEV-200204161451]. 14:36 < fake> clifford: jetzt duerfte die liste halt arschlahm sein 14:37 < clifford> fake: ich merk's 14:39 < clifford> fake: der flist wrapper steckt in einer endlos-rekursion beim abfangen von strace. anstatt die originalfunktion aufzurufen ruft er sich staendig selbst auf ... 14:40 < clifford> fake: doch nicht - aber fast ... :-) 14:42 < esden> re hi al 14:42 < esden> l 14:42 < holyolli> re esden 14:42 < huebi> hi esden 14:42 < holyolli> esden: kühe? 14:42 < esden> back home sweet home 14:42 < esden> endlich wochenende 14:43 < huebi> esden: Noch mehr Kühe? 14:44 < SMP> gnnn 14:44 < holyolli> <-- mag lieber elche 14:45 < tsa> hehe 14:45 < tsa> wie schmecken die denn? 14:45 < holyolli> lecker! 14:45 < SMP> *roehr* 14:45 < holyolli> *messerzück* ;) 14:45 < tsa> SMP: vorsicht, sonst wirst du geschlachtet.. 14:45 < huebi> cowsay -f elch *roehr* 14:45 < tsa> hehe 14:46 < tsa> SMP: www.rocklinux.de laeuft doch bei dir.....wieviel traffic gibt das so? 14:46 < esden> clifford: wie oft werden die mirrors gesyncht ? 14:47 < fake> hi esden 14:47 < esden> clifford: ich meine die www mirrors 14:47 < esden> hi fake 14:48 < clifford> esden: siehe comment im html-code auf www.rocklinux.org. 14:48 -!- blindy|sleep is now known as blindcoder 14:48 < esden> re blindcoder 14:48 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 14:48 < SMP> tsa: oeh 14:48 < netcrow> re blindcoder 14:49 < esden> muahaha ... ist netscape scheisse 14:50 < fake> hi crash! 14:51 < fake> mozilla 1.0 should be released soon... right? 14:51 < tsa> SMP: hast du ne chance, da irgendwie an zahlen ranzukommen? 14:52 < tsa> koennte etvl nen mirror hier aufsetzen... 14:52 < SMP> tsa: der www mirror alleine 30-50 MB pro Tag im IP accounting 14:53 < SMP> das ist so wenig, das schau ich gar nicht an ;> 14:53 < tsa> hehe 14:54 < fake> *wait* 14:54 < SMP> ausser Clifford linkt download.rocklinux.de auf der Homepage dann sind es schon mal >2,5GB pro Tag :} 14:54 < tsa> hehe 14:54 * -> esden braucht immer noch die daten fuer leo.org so dass ich die jungs anschreiben kann... 14:55 < holyolli> wasn für daten? 14:55 < huebi> holyolli: Die mailadresse ;> 14:55 < esden> SMP: als ich dass den leo.org leuten gesagt habe dann haben die nur noch gelacht ;-) 14:55 < fake> schuhgroesse 14:56 < fake> freunde des beleuchters,, 14:56 < tsa> ftp-admin@leo.org 14:56 < tsa> ? 14:56 * holyolli muss grad einfach mal so wieder an kühe denken.... ;-) 14:56 < fake> leute die wir nicht kennen, die aber in der naehe von clifford wohnen... 14:56 < fake> die exfrau des ftp-admins 14:57 < fake> meine rote jacke 14:57 < esden> ich brauche folgonde daten: wieviel festplatten platz wir brauchen. wie oft sich die struktur des ftp veraendert, wie viele benutzer unsere distribution braucht... 14:57 < esden> dass ist glaube ich alles soweit ich weiss... 14:57 < fake> achsooo 14:58 < fake> unsere distribution hat ein maximum von 5 parallell arbeitenden benutzern, mehr kosten 100$ each. 14:58 < fake> pro stunde 14:58 < SMP> esden: LEO haengt am WiN und da muss man nur hereinkommenden Traffic bezahlen ... 14:58 < huebi> SMP: Was is WiN? 14:58 < fake> wie beim wasser - da zahlt man auch nich das was rausgeht 14:58 < holyolli> huebi: deutsches forschungsnetz 14:59 < SMP> huebi: Deutches Forschungsnetz 14:59 < huebi> heist das nicht DFN? 14:59 < netcrow> fake: *rofl* 14:59 < SMP> GWiN ist das Netz des DFN 14:59 < huebi> also vor 18 Jahren hiess das noch so 14:59 < SMP> Gigabit WissenschaftsNetz 14:59 < esden> SMP: neim soweit ich weiss nicht ... wenigstens der mirror admin hat nichts davon gesagt ... 14:59 < fake> tolle abkuerzung 15:00 < esden> aber ich kann da mal am montag vorbeigehen ... denn LEO = TUM = meine uni ;-) 15:00 < SMP> esden: warum sollte er darueber reden 15:00 < fake> esden is der TUM RIDER! 15:00 < fake> esden Croft ;) 15:01 < netcrow> hehe 15:01 < esden> SMP: hmm vielleicht weil es interessant ist ? 15:01 < esden> SMP: denn wenn wir was zahlen muessen kommt es nicht in frage ... 15:01 < fake> rtlanal.c ? 15:01 < SMP> esden: ach, vergiss diese Diskussion 15:01 < fake> <-- wird heute seinen boss nach dem HP/900 fragen ;) 15:02 < fake> vielleicht krieg ich die kiste 15:02 < esden> SMP: ok ... wenn du meinst ... 15:02 < SMP> esden: ich meine nicht das Gespraech mit LEO! 15:03 < SMP> Fakt ist, WiN berechnet nur incoming traffic und deshalb koennen die ganzen Mirrors im WiN uberleben 15:03 < clifford> wiese arbeiten die ELF dynamic loading funktionen anders unter linux/mips ?!? 15:04 < esden> SMP: aja gut zu wissen ... ich wusste es nicht ... heisst dass dass wir was bezahlen muessen ? 15:04 < SMP> esden: ARGL 15:04 < esden> SMP: sooorrryyy ... 15:05 < fake> *lol* ad esden und SMP ;) 15:05 < fake> clifford: reductionism. 15:05 < huebi> esden: Muuh! 15:05 < SMP> esden: wenn du jemanden um einen Gefallen bittest, der ihn nicht mal was kostet, erwartest du dann etwas bezahlen zu muessen?! 15:05 < fake> moh, i'm just a cow. 15:06 < esden> SMP: nein ... nicht wirklich ... 15:06 < clifford> esden: idialist. :-) 15:06 < fake> SMP: wenn ich ein weibliches wesen frage ob sie... das kostet sie nichts... aber... 15:06 < esden> clifford: tja mei ... 15:06 < fake> *denk* 15:07 < SMP> clifford: du hast nicht zufaellig noch nen 1HE Rechner bei dir uebrig? ich kenn da einen Deppenverein in Oestereich, der die billig mit 'unlimited traffic' housed 15:07 < fake> doch, kostet ueberwindung ;)) 15:07 < SMP> clifford: denen wuerd ich gern man zeigen was 'unlimited traffic' heisst :-]] 15:07 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@p50807992.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:07 < fake> hi hackbard ! 15:07 < holyolli> hi hackbard 15:08 < netcrow> hi hackbard 15:08 < hackbard> moin 15:08 < huebi> SMP: ... und 24Monate Vertragsbindung bei 99,9999% Netzverfuegbarkeit 100MBit full duplex. The net is the computer, hehe 15:09 < SMP> huebi: wenn ich privat das Geld uebrig haett, wuerd ich's machen 15:09 < clifford> SMP: hmmm - ich hab' niwe eine 1HE kiste gehabt - aber dafuer koennt ich mir ja ne pizzabox kaufen .. die investition is schnell drinnen ... :-) 15:09 < fake> costa quanta? 15:10 < SMP> na wie heissen sie noch .. 15:10 < fake> wieviel is denn nu "billig" ? 15:10 < esden> clifford: kriege ich dann die daten ? so dass ich die leo leute deswegen nerven kann? es hat mich schon jetzt halben tag rumgelaufe und rumgefrage gekostet ... deshalb wuerde ich gerne dass weiter verfolgen ... (ja ich weiss manchmal muss man wochenlang latschen um was zu erlaedigen ... trotzdem ...) 15:11 -!- Kuh [~huebi@pD9E1CE4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:11 < fake> Muuh! 15:11 < Kuh> muh 15:11 < holyolli> *röhr* 15:11 < fake> Muehbi! 15:11 < SMP> ah 15:11 < SMP> https://www.issp.at/ 15:12 < Kuh> Rofl 15:12 < huebi> *click* 15:12 < fake> Ein junges, dynamisches Team bestehend aus zwei sehr guten Freunden 15:12 < fake> schwul. garantiert. 15:13 < tsa> hehehe 15:13 < fake> die preise sind in euro, nehme ich an? 15:14 < fake> 6 monate vertragsbindung... 15:14 < fake> also viel steht da ja nuescht 15:15 < huebi> Stundensatz EUR 25,- (exkl. USt.) 15:15 < esden> die sind in paar monaten pleite ... 15:15 < clifford> esden: ich weiss selber nichts. Keine ahnung wie viel transfer ueber die mirrors lauft (hab' keinen zugang zu den logs). 15:15 < huebi> die will ich haben. Meine Privatschergen 15:16 < huebi> ups pro 15min. Ich will doch nicht. 15:16 < esden> clifford: ok ... dann mussma warten bis wir es wissen ... davor brauche ich mich bei denen zeigen lassen ... 15:16 < fake> huebi> ich arbeit fuer dich fuer 50 Mark/Stunde 15:18 < fake> SSP ist weiters zur sofortigen Vertragsauflösung oder Dienstunterbrechung bzw. -abschaltung berechtigt, wenn ihm das Verhalten des Kunden oder ihm zuzurechnender Personen die Fortsetzung des Vertragsverhältnisses unzumutbar macht. 15:18 < huebi> 100Kb/s nicht so richtig schnell 15:19 < fake> d.h.: leecht du zu viel klemmen sie dich ab 15:20 < fake> Der Kunde erklärt sich einverstanden, von ISSP Werbung und Informationen betreffend Produkte und Services von ISSP oder Geschäftspartnern von ISSP in angemessenem Umfang per E-Mail zu erhalten. 15:20 < SMP> fake: die AGB sind ein Quell von Freude 15:20 < SMP> naja, der Werbung kann man Widersprechen 15:20 < fake> o_O 15:20 < huebi> Mit denen muss man einen wasserdichten Vertrag aufsetzen. Nicht so richtig lustig, die Jungs. 15:20 < blindcoder> ein guter eintrag in .procmailrc wirkt da wunder @fake 15:20 < SMP> allein schon die Anwedung von US-Recht in DE/AT 15:21 < SMP> grossartig 15:21 < fake> blindcoder: ich will aber keine werbung! 15:21 < blindcoder> /dev/null ist dein freund @fake 15:21 * SMP schwoert auf TMDA 15:21 < SMP> seitdem _keine_ junkmail mehr 15:21 < huebi> TMDA? 15:21 < SMP> tmda.sf.net 15:22 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 15:22 < armijn> re 15:22 < huebi> *click* 15:22 < esden> re armijn 15:22 < armijn> sorry, no patches yet, gotta run more tests first 15:22 < fake> Korneuburg, 15:22 < Kuh> Muh, armijn muh! 15:22 < fake> armijn: glibc built ;) 15:22 < armijn> kuh: go give milk. 15:23 < armijn> fake: great! anything failed? 15:23 < armijn> fake: so, you can add mips to the config menu now :) 15:23 < esden> armijn: == 22:46:58 04/16/02 =[4]=> Finished building package gimp. <<- this compile runs on alpha ;-) 15:23 < fake> gcc2 left the lib-section of the spec-file empty, as clifford pointed out 15:23 < huebi> holyolli: cowsay -f moose Weil ich der Elch bin... 15:23 < holyolli> huebi: *fg* jo 15:24 < fake> armijn: and dietlibc won't assemble 15:24 < fake> armijn: but the rest was fine until now 15:24 < armijn> fake: forget about dietlibc 15:24 < fake> sure ;) 15:24 < armijn> fake: wow, sounds like MIPS is actually easier than sparc... 15:24 < fake> no, i'm just outgeeking you ;P 15:25 < armijn> esden: I'm not even considering building X stuff 15:25 < armijn> fake: including all the optional packages? 15:25 < esden> armijn: yes sure ... 15:25 < esden> but I tried and it works ... so why not ... ;-) 15:25 < fake> armijn: i just finished stage 1 15:25 < armijn> fake: but will you build the optional packages? 15:25 < fake> esden: you can use xdmcp ;) 15:26 < armijn> esden: that's great...but for sparc I will stick to just base 15:26 < fake> armijn: when i finished everything else, sure, why not 15:26 < armijn> fake: so, you can make patches now...huebi looooooooves patches 15:26 < esden> armijn: sure ... 15:26 < esden> fake: xdmcp ??? 15:26 < fake> huebi? i'm at 1.7 15:27 < fake> esden: xdmcp braodcast... 15:27 < armijn> fake: can you try 1.5 as well? 15:27 < fake> armijn: why? why not? i had the 1.7 sources reay. 15:27 < fake> *ready 15:27 < huebi> fake: I will adopt your patches in 1.5 15:28 < armijn> hmm...so that's going to be weird... 15:28 < armijn> sparc suport, but no mips support in 1.5 15:28 < armijn> and mips support, but no sparc in 1.7 :) 15:28 < fake> okay... but be patient with me 15:28 < esden> I do not think that fake can get the mips port stable before 1.6 will be released ... or what do you think fake ? 15:28 < armijn> fake: no we won't. 15:28 < huebi> fake: jo 15:28 < armijn> fake: just give up your sleep. 15:29 < fake> armijn: what sleep ? 15:29 < armijn> huebi: still I haven't seen some "official" drawing line of what you call 1.6 15:29 < armijn> fake: ehr...ok :) 15:29 < fake> esden: a stable development version? 15:29 < huebi> armijn: I hope to get it done this weekend. 15:30 < armijn> huebi: good. 15:30 < armijn> been working my ass off on some docs as well. 15:30 < armijn> will take them monday... 15:30 < fake> the use of `mktemp' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp' ? 15:31 < armijn> hehe...that sounds like...gcc? 15:31 < fake> bingo! 15:31 < armijn> heh :) 15:31 -!- thalerim [~be@p508135C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:32 < esden> XDMCP (X Display Manager Control Protocol) 15:32 < armijn> huebi: sorry for pushing you so much 15:32 < fake> esden: it's what solaris does all the time... with x sessions running on a server and so on. 15:32 < esden> ahh ... 15:33 < fake> i have it on my route >_< i was curious 15:33 < fake> *router 15:33 < Kuh> __________________________________ 15:33 < Kuh> < Armijn: Don't push huebi so hard > 15:33 < Kuh> ---------------------------------- 15:33 < Kuh> \ 15:33 < Kuh> \ \_\_ _/_/ 15:33 < Kuh> \ \__/ 15:33 < Kuh> (oo)\_______ 15:33 < Kuh> (__)\ )\/\ 15:33 < Kuh> ||----w | 15:33 < Kuh> || || 15:34 < armijn> Kuh is just there for statistics, right? 15:34 < huebi> no armijn 15:34 < huebi> it's a cow ghost 15:34 < armijn> I know it's a cow 15:34 < fake> gives me the creeps... *shiver* 15:34 < huebi> looking like a moose. holyolli likes that 15:34 < armijn> makes evil ghost cowmilk 15:35 < armijn> which is then used for making ghost milkchocolate 15:35 < holyolli> jepp! 15:35 < fake> glows-in-the-dark-milk 15:35 < armijn> glow in the dark chocolate?!? 15:35 < thalerim> huebi: upload was right so? 15:35 < fake> groovy! 15:35 < huebi> thalerim: Yes, thank you 15:35 < Kuh> _____________ 15:35 < Kuh> < supermilker > 15:35 < Kuh> ------------- 15:35 < Kuh> \ ^__^ 15:35 < Kuh> \ (oo)\_______ ________ 15:35 < Kuh> (__)\ )\/\ |Super | 15:35 < Kuh> ||----W | |Milker| 15:35 < Kuh> || UDDDDDDDDD|______| 15:35 * -> esden does not have now any abligations about the cow ... if she stays under her own nick 15:36 < armijn> huebi: an idea in mind about a date for 1.6? 15:36 < armijn> a target date? 15:36 < esden> s/abligations/obligations/ 15:36 < thalerim> huebi: inja is the best one (imo) :)= 15:36 < huebi> armijn: I make a schedule for 1.6 saturday morning 15:38 < Kuh> test for /ignore 15:38 < huebi> hmmm 15:38 < fake> strange: Checking wether gcc compiler works.... no. 15:38 * SMP wishes his /ignore would work 15:38 < fake> Can not create executables 15:38 < fake> and then: Build succeded. 15:38 < huebi> /ignore Kuh <-did not work, hmmm 15:38 < armijn> /ignore Kuh all 15:39 < huebi> ___________ 15:39 < huebi> < Ignore me > 15:39 < huebi> ----------- 15:39 < huebi> uups 15:39 < thalerim> bullsh!t :) 15:39 < thalerim> :P 15:39 < Kuh> < Ignore me > 15:40 < huebi> /ignore Kuh all<-did not work,too 15:40 < esden> /help ignore 15:40 < thalerim> ./exec killall kuh 15:42 < armijn> I suggest we kill the cow, butcher it and have a BBQ 15:42 < fake> hunting! meat! eat! 15:42 < Kuh> < I have BSE > 15:43 < Kuh> ------------ 15:43 < Kuh> \ ^__^ 15:43 < Kuh> \ (oo)\_______ 15:43 < Kuh> (__)\ )\/\ 15:43 < Kuh> ||----w | 15:43 < Kuh> || || 15:43 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o SMP] by ChanServ 15:43 -!- Kuh [~huebi@pD9E1CE4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux (requested by SMP) 15:43 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o SMP] by SMP 15:43 < fake> *LOL* 15:43 < thalerim> mjam 15:43 < armijn> BSD? 15:43 < fake> SMP is great hunter 15:44 -!- Kuh [~huebi@pD9E1CE4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:44 -!- Be-El [~blinke@jake.Genetik.Uni-Bielefeld.DE] has joined #rocklinux 15:44 < fake> me will paint wall of chatroom with painting of SMP hunter 15:44 < Be-El> hi ppl 15:44 < armijn> huebi: I don't like that cow. 15:45 < holyolli> moin bl 15:45 < huebi> armijn: The cow it a hidden dragon 15:45 < Be-El> damned curl..... 15:45 < clifford> fake: die flist wrapper lib funktioniert jetzt auch mit mips 15:45 < Be-El> it was a _BAD_ idea to use curl...the handling of proxies is broken 15:46 < fake> clifford: kann es sein dass ich sie grade benutze? 15:46 < armijn> clifford: it doesn't (yet) work on sparc 15:46 < clifford> fake: das sollte den build ein wenig beschleunigen. 15:46 < fake> clifford: oder ... noe 15:46 < fake> clifford: hast du dir nen patch gemacht? 15:47 -!- Kuh [~huebi@pD9E1CE4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 15:47 < clifford> armijn: shall I send you the new version with dccp? it should also work on sparc .. 15:47 < fake> Kuh is going to next field 15:47 < armijn> clifford: hmm...is it backwards compatible with 1.5? 15:48 < fake> clifford: have you put it into the rock-src dir or is it in your temp dir? 15:48 < clifford> fake: due muesstest die config aendern und das build-dir entsprechend verschieben .. 15:48 < armijn> clifford: because I do the port based on 1.5 (1.7 too much of a moving target) 15:49 < clifford> fake: I;ve applied already the patch. 15:49 < tsa> SMP: www2.rocklinux.de IN A 217.14.168.4 <-- bitte eintragen 15:49 < fake> clifford: then i'll enjoy the speed with the next build 15:49 * tsa setting up mirror. 15:49 < clifford> armijn: the patch should also work with 1.5 ... 15:49 < fake> now it's only a test-of-difficulty 15:49 < holyolli> von wo muss denn gersynct werden? 15:49 -!- thalerim is now known as thAlerim 15:50 < armijn> k 15:50 < tsa> clifford: rsync fuer die webseiten - wie? 15:51 < clifford> rsync://www.rocklinux.org/rocklinux-webpage 15:51 < tsa> ok. 15:52 < armijn> clifford: if the new flist works with 1.5, huebi should backport it 15:52 < SMP> tsa: 15:52 < SMP> #!/bin/bash 15:52 < SMP> exec 2>&1 15:52 < SMP> rsync -rltzv --delete rsync://www.rocklinux.org/rocklinux-webpage/ ~/www.rocklinux.de/htdocs/ 15:52 < SMP> echo '+www2.rocklinux.de:217.14.168.4:7200' >> zone-fun/rocklinux.de/10_all && gmake dist 15:52 < SMP> done. 15:53 < clifford> armijn: I've send you the patch 15:53 < clifford> (it will be in the next snap anyways) 15:53 < holyolli> SMP: wie oft rsynct ihr die anderen server? 15:54 < clifford> huebi: kann ich dir den fl_wrapper patch per dcc schicken? 15:54 < armijn> clifford; great 15:54 < huebi> clifford: jo, probier mal 15:54 < SMP> holyolli: eh? jeder Admin eines Mirrors regelt das selbst. ich einmal am Tag in der Nacht 15:54 * fake geht in seine Firma- Heute wird gecounterd ;) 15:55 < armijn> hmm...time to get a free beer...I think... 15:55 < armijn> it's Heineken, but it's free... 15:55 < armijn> hmm...tough choice... 15:55 < fake> Marketing&Finanzen = CounterTerrorist, Entwicklung&GF: Terrorists *gg* 15:55 < armijn> it's Heineken...but it's free... 15:55 < holyolli> SMP: das wollte ich eigendlich auch nur wissen... 15:55 < huebi> armijn: Drink more milk! 15:55 < huebi> cow says 15:55 < armijn> "Kuh" should drink more beer... 15:56 < fake> i wonder how milk of cow who drinks beer taste? 15:57 < huebi> fake: "hopfig" 15:57 < fake> huebi: "garschtig" 15:57 < clifford> huebi: hast du den dcc offer bekommen? 15:57 < fake> also, ich bin meine vorgesetzten abknallen. 15:57 < fake> clifford: danke nochmal! 15:57 < huebi> clifford: jo, und /dcc get hat irgendwie nicht funktioniert 15:57 < fake> *wink* 15:58 < fake> set DCC_AUTOGET 15:58 < fake> ;) 15:58 < clifford> huebi: grrrr .... 15:58 < tsa> clifford: rsync is running. 15:58 < blindcoder> esden> ich hab .hack//sign teil 2 ;) 15:58 < tsa> responsible: rock@marcant.net - will go to /me and holyolli 15:59 < clifford> huebi: hab' ein e-mail geschickt .. 15:59 < huebi> clifford: /set DCC_AUTOGET <- geht das jetzt? 15:59 < huebi> mail ist da ;) 16:00 < huebi> DCC can't connect to 192.168.69.17 port 34801 ?? 16:00 < clifford> huebi: aha - moment ... 16:01 < clifford> huebi: wleche ip hat er jetzt? 16:02 < huebi> Kuh is on place 26 in the stats 16:02 < huebi> DCC SEND from clifford [192.168.69.17 port 34803]: x [826 bytes] 16:02 < clifford> grr... 16:02 < clifford> bin gleich wieder da .. 16:02 -!- clifford [~clifford@62.46.3.250] has quit ("Client Exiting") 16:05 -!- clifford [~clifford@M098P004.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 16:06 < clifford> da bin ich wieder .. 16:06 < tsa> clifford: 16:06 < tsa> 30 2 * * * /var/www/update-rock.sh >/dev/null 16:06 < holyolli> re clifford 16:06 -!- rxr_fh is now known as rxr 16:06 < rxr> hi 16:06 < clifford> tsa: hostname? 16:06 < tsa> www2.rocklinux.de 16:06 < tsa> dns kindly sponsored by SMP ;) 16:07 < SMP> doesn't work 16:07 < huebi> clifford: DCC SEND from clifford [62.46.2.36 port 34807]: x [826 bytes] 16:07 < clifford> connection refused: www2.rocklinux.org 16:07 < SMP> Trying 217.14.168.4... 16:07 < SMP> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No route to host 16:07 < holyolli> args 16:07 < tsa> cisco... 16:07 < holyolli> <-- macht grad nen paar cisco-acls 16:07 < holyolli> ;) 16:08 < clifford> huebi: d.h. du hast das file? 16:08 < huebi> clifford: nee, ist nicht hier angekommen 16:08 < holyolli> SMP: so...müsste nu tun 16:09 < SMP> nope 16:09 < clifford> huebi: jetzt ist es timed out. 16:09 < clifford> huebi: egal - hast es eh' per e-mail .. 16:10 < huebi> clifford: Probier nochmal bitte 16:10 < clifford> fake: wo bist' hin? ich bin auf einmal allein auf der indy .. 16:10 < esden> re ... 16:10 < netcrow> der is zocken 16:10 < esden> ahh ich liebe essen ;-) 16:10 * -> esden hat immer noch hunger 16:10 < huebi> /dcc get 16:10 < huebi> DCC can't connect to 62.46.2.36 port 34812 16:10 < clifford> und ich fuercht' mich doch im dunkeln auf einer fremden maschiene .. 16:11 < netcrow> hehe 16:11 < esden> /dcc get essen 16:11 < clifford> huebi: aha - wahrscheinlich hab' ich das IRC nat modul nicht geladen. is' ja auch egal .. 16:11 < huebi> clifford: die bits sind nicht gefaehrlich, nur die Bytes 16:12 < esden> ja in gruppen sind die immer gefaehrlich ... vorallem wenn die 100G uebersteigen 16:13 < esden> clifford: <- mail sent 16:13 < Be-El> schneidet einfach das MSB ab, dann verlieren die anderen den mut 16:14 < huebi> Ich schwoere auf 4-Bit CPUs! 16:14 < esden> huebi: falsch ... du meinst microcontroler ... 16:15 < Be-El> huebi: ist eigentlich ne ganz einfache sache....n-bit CPU, wobei n = anzahl der biere, die der besitzer an einem abend trinken kann 16:15 < esden> uii 16:15 * huebi <- get the new 512Bit Athlon ;) 16:16 < holyolli> SMP: auf den routern war das noch alles gesperrt... =) 16:16 < esden> also wenn man meine alpha betrachtet dann habe ich GROSSE alkoholkapazitaeten ;-) 16:16 < SMP> holyolli: jo, geht jetzt 16:16 < holyolli> <AOL> /me too! </aol> ;-) 16:16 < huebi> holyolli: lol 16:17 < huebi> AOL on alpha and rocklinux. Any volunteers? 16:17 < holyolli> hehe 16:18 < huebi> <AOL> Sie haben Post! </AOL> <- muss ich einfach auf linux haben. 16:18 < holyolli> ./dcc send huebi post.wav 16:19 < anders> einfach? meine deutsch nicht gut sint (lots of errors I know.. :) 16:20 < SMP> -rw-r--r-- 1 stefanp users 18164 Apr 9 1998 post.wav 16:20 < holyolli> anders: einfach == easy 16:20 < huebi> :q 16:20 < tsa> this is not vi ;-) 16:20 < holyolli> this is real life.. 16:20 < SMP> /irgnore -language german 16:20 < SMP> ;> 16:22 < huebi> anders: <AOL> You've got mail! </AOL> <- I must have it. In german. On linux ;))) 16:23 < anders> huebi: danke.. :) 16:23 < huebi> SMP: can you copy post.wav into my ~ 16:23 < huebi> anders: pleasure 16:24 < holyolli> "lolita.WRonline.de" - aaaaaaaahja ;-) 16:25 < SMP> huebi: ~stefanp/post.wav 16:25 < huebi> anders: AOL has a TV-ad campayn in germany. I heared "Sie haben Post!" in that ad. 16:25 < huebi> SMP: got it. Thank you 16:26 * huebi needs to get his sound card working ;) 16:26 < SMP> . o ( /me hops it's the right one ) 16:28 < huebi> post.wav <- noiseless, empty test.wav for absolut silence. "WTF is my sound card not working...." 16:28 < huebi> hehe 16:31 < netcrow> ./join #aol 16:31 -!- kvak|uninvited [uninvited@p50802B56.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ROCKLINUX 16:32 < esden> hi uni ! 16:32 < anders> Hmm.. I see enough crappy AOL ads on UK TV.. 16:32 < netcrow> hi Uni 16:32 < kvak|uninvited> Hello ESDEN 16:32 < kvak|uninvited> Hello NETCROW 16:32 < kvak|uninvited> (damn CAPSLOCK *G*) 16:32 < esden> lool uni sicher ... 16:32 < esden> I mean sure .. ;-) 16:32 < blindcoder> hi uni 16:33 < anders> poink! 16:33 < kvak|uninvited> Hi blindcoder... 16:33 * kvak|uninvited searches his brain for blindcoders identity 16:33 < kvak|uninvited> MATCH 16:33 < blindcoder> hehe 16:33 < esden> kvak|uninvited: tell us then who is blindcoder ? 16:33 < huebi> anders: I have no TV. So it's just fun for me 16:34 < thAlerim> huebi doesn't own a TV, but he has got good music *harhar* 16:34 < huebi> thAlerim: hehe 16:35 < huebi> I did a /join #aol - nobody in there 16:35 < huebi> lol 16:35 < esden> hmm i think I should leech a littlebit on huebis ftp ;-) 16:35 -!- blindcoder [crash@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("User abort with 5 Ctrl-C's") 16:35 -!- blindcoder [crash@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:35 < esden> loool 16:35 < huebi> esden: in the upload directory 16:35 < blindcoder> damn... wrong window to use ^C 16:35 < esden> -!- blindcoder [crash@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("User abort with 5 Ctrl-C's" 16:35 < esden> muahaha 16:35 < esden> lool 16:36 < esden> huebi: damn 16:36 < thAlerim> huebi: i have further songs.. when the downloading of Creed will be finished, i upload more stuff :) 16:36 < thAlerim> *i am going to 16:36 < huebi> thAlerim: Yes, do so 16:36 < kvak|uninvited> definition blindcoder> Subject is a living individual - pumping code through his veins, manga and instant noodle abuse 16:37 < blindcoder> noodles? where? 16:37 < huebi> lol 16:37 < kvak|uninvited> so this is another W4R3z # ? 16:37 < esden> kvak|uninvited: your dofinition aproved ;-) 16:37 < kvak|uninvited> har har har 16:38 < esden> kvak|uninvited: we need a rithm when we code ;-) 16:38 < blindcoder> esden> I managed to restore the modified bccs files 16:38 < esden> so we have to exchange music ... 16:38 < blindcoder> I finally found them on the 100 MEgabyte ZIP-Disk-Dump 16:38 < esden> blindcoder: how ? 16:38 < kvak|uninvited> esden> i see...illogical 16:38 -!- praenti_ZzZz is now known as praenti 16:38 < blindcoder> vim zipdump 16:38 < praenti> hi 16:38 < blindcoder> hi praenti 16:38 < kvak|uninvited> Hello praenti 16:38 < esden> hi brand 16:38 < blindcoder> and then searched for the modifications 16:38 * praenti reading scrollback 16:39 < netcrow> hi praenti the weizenbock 16:39 < esden> pluetzlich erwachen alle zum loben ... wahrnsinn 16:39 < huebi> praenti: muh 16:39 < thAlerim> kvak|uninvited: you won't get anything done without good music (or at least it won't be so good) 16:39 < esden> ich meine leben ... >_< 16:39 < netcrow> hm, show him the cow ;-) 16:39 * blindcoder suggests Serial Experiments Lain - Duvet 16:40 < esden> hmm 16:40 * -> esden mounting his second mp3 archive ;-) 16:40 * kvak|uninvited listens to: _RECHENZENTRUM_:_IBM 16:40 * thAlerim is listening to KoRn - inja 16:40 < esden> == 00:29:55 =[5]=> Building base package linux [2.4.18-rc4 1.5.13_2002-04-04_21h08]. !!! 16:40 < esden> YUPEEEE 16:40 < esden> jump jump 16:41 < holyolli> esden: intel or alpha? 16:41 < esden> alpha 16:41 < holyolli> cool 16:41 * blindcoder thinks about hanging ROCKLinux CDs on his walls... there are quite a few unusable around now ;) 16:42 < esden> <errorlist> 16:42 < esden> ist/var/adm/logs/3-alsa.err 16:42 < esden> dist/var/adm/logs/3-apmd.err 16:42 < esden> dist/var/adm/logs/3-galeon.err 16:42 < esden> dist/var/adm/logs/3-gdm.err 16:42 < esden> dist/var/adm/logs/3-iproute2.err 16:42 < esden> dist/var/adm/logs/3-libsafe.err 16:42 < esden> dist/var/adm/logs/3-lprng.err 16:42 < esden> dist/var/adm/logs/3-modules.err 16:42 < esden> dist/var/adm/logs/3-qt.err 16:42 < esden> dist/var/adm/logs/3-rsync.err 16:42 < esden> dist/var/adm/logs/3-tetex.err 16:42 < esden> dist/var/adm/logs/3-time.err 16:42 < esden> </errorlist> 16:42 < kvak|uninvited> output > irc ? 16:42 < holyolli> das mit den modules kannst du mit dem einen patch rausbekommen, den ich mal geschickt hatte 16:42 < holyolli> erm 16:43 < esden> kvak|uninvited: not yet I am currently writing an irssi plugin for it ;-) 16:43 < holyolli> the problem with "modules" lies in building some stuff for a special scsi-controller (afaik) 16:43 < holyolli> (sorry 4 german) 16:43 < blindcoder> hmm... I think I'll go shopping in a few minutes... no instant noodles around anymore >_< 16:43 < esden> holyolli: ok I will check it 16:44 < esden> blindcoder: tztztz 16:44 * praenti : scrollback too long --> reading aborted 16:44 < esden> blindcoder: noodles yunkey 16:44 < holyolli> cu l8ter 16:44 < blindcoder> haaaai! 16:44 < huebi> cu holyolli 16:44 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has quit ("fnord!") 16:45 < esden> praenti: hehe like the virus scanner for mail ... that have to check 42.zip ;-) 16:45 -!- Netsplit carter.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: Mike1 16:45 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Mike1 16:45 * thAlerim is listening to Nirvana - Lithium 16:45 < thAlerim> Nirvana rocks. 16:46 < blindcoder> kuso! no CD-RW around... 16:46 < esden> thAlerim: yups 16:47 < esden> ahh docbook stuff ... I know what I wanted to copy on my laptop 16:47 * blindcoder now watching .hack//sign 02 16:47 < thAlerim> WTF? 16:47 < esden> blindcoder: I want tooo!!! 16:47 < esden> thAlerim: anime 16:48 < esden> thAlerim: or what you mean ? 16:48 < blindcoder> esden> come around ;) 16:48 < thAlerim> .hack//sign 02 <- 16:48 < blindcoder> thAlerim> it's an anime 16:48 < esden> blindcoder: haha ... I can't I have toomuch to do >_< 16:48 < kvak|uninvited> thalerim> Rage Against The Machine rocks ! 16:48 < blindcoder> esden> then you have to watch it another time 16:48 < kvak|uninvited> Down ride rodeo 16:49 < thAlerim> kvak|uninvited: lol, is that a name of a song or of a band? 16:49 < thAlerim> blindcoder: where? 16:49 < praenti> _ _ 16:49 < praenti> | | | | _____ __ ___ __ _ _ __ _ _ ___ _ _ 16:49 < praenti> | |_| |/ _ \ \ /\ / / / __/ _` | '_ \ | | | |/ _ \| | | | 16:49 < praenti> | _ | (_) \ V V / | (_| (_| | | | | | |_| | (_) | |_| | 16:49 < praenti> |_| |_|\___/ \_/\_/ \___\__,_|_| |_| \__, |\___/ \__,_| 16:49 < praenti> |___/ 16:49 < praenti> _ _ _ _ ___ 16:49 < praenti> _ __ ___ __ _| | _____ | |_| |__ __ _| |_ ___ _____ _|__ \ 16:49 < praenti> | '_ ` _ \ / _` | |/ / _ \ | __| '_ \ / _` | __| / __/ _ \ \ /\ / / / / 16:49 < praenti> | | | | | | (_| | < __/ | |_| | | | (_| | |_ | (_| (_) \ V V / |_| 16:49 < praenti> |_| |_| |_|\__,_|_|\_\___| \__|_| |_|\__,_|\__| \___\___/ \_/\_/ (_) 16:49 < praenti> ;-) 16:49 < thAlerim> ... 16:49 < SMP> argl 16:50 < blindcoder> thAlerim> what do you mean? where? on my hard disk I'd say ;) 16:50 < kvak|uninvited> thalermi>talking about RATM ? or DOWN RIDE RODEO ? 16:50 < huebi> __________________ 16:50 < huebi> ( praneti needs it ) 16:50 < huebi> ------------------ 16:50 < huebi> o ^__^ 16:50 < huebi> o (oo)\_______ 16:50 < huebi> (__)\ )\/\ 16:50 < huebi> ||----w | 16:50 < huebi> || || 16:50 < thAlerim> ... 16:50 -!- SMP [stefanp@world.WRonline.de] has left #rocklinux () 16:50 < thAlerim> kvak|uninvited: what are both? 16:51 * thAlerim needs a /clear 16:51 * thAlerim has cleared successfully 16:51 < praenti> huebi: ich glaub das teil nervt ein paar leuet ... 16:52 < kvak|uninvited> thalerim> you re jokin on me ? Say, you don t know Rage Against The Machine ? 16:52 < thAlerim> nope 16:52 < kvak|uninvited> thalerim>T02rsh6orBygyTItb7l7jaDAU69@ZDo9MJVLR4Zvb@WThXy9j00000PlZ00FkTMJKvCNi?zq 16:52 < kvak|uninvited> oops. Sorry 16:53 < thAlerim> !!!!!!1 16:53 < kvak|uninvited> RATM is like crossoversound - try to get a life ;-) 16:53 < thAlerim> his encrypted password 16:53 < thAlerim> of root 16:53 < thAlerim> !!!! 16:53 < kvak|uninvited> Nay. 16:53 < blindcoder> zero just crashed my door ;) 16:53 * huebi startin jack... 16:54 < thAlerim> kvak|uninvited: what type of music is it? 16:54 < kvak|uninvited> thalerim> get a leech... 16:54 < kvak|uninvited> ...search for "RATM" 16:54 < thAlerim> can you send it, please? 16:55 < kvak|uninvited> send yar what ? 16:55 < thAlerim> a song of this group 16:55 < thAlerim> the best one 16:55 < kvak|uninvited> to use the words of armijn: google! 16:55 < kvak|uninvited> google -> ratm 16:55 < tsa> hehe 16:55 < thAlerim> <- lazy 16:55 < thAlerim> <- very much lazy 16:56 < tsa> clifford: rsync sollte bald fertig sein......schmeisst du noch nen link auf die master-site? 17:00 < anders> my head is hurting.... 17:02 < kvak|uninvited> hammer... 17:03 < blindcoder> 960 MB installation... on a 2 Gig disc :( 17:04 * anders growls about the current build breaking things... 17:04 < anders> good thing I go home in 55 minutes... 17:04 < clifford> tsa: done. ich brauch e-mail und realname fuer meinen responsable-person eintrag. 17:05 < tsa> clifford: rock@marcant.net, Sebastian Jaenicke 17:05 < clifford> thx. 17:05 < tsa> 30 2 * * * /var/www/update-rock.sh >/dev/null 17:06 < Mike1> re 17:06 < clifford> hab' ich schon (von vorher) - das ist CET ? 17:06 < tsa> jupp. 17:09 < clifford> fake: ich komm' nicht mehr auf die indy! (das gcc problem ist fast geloest ..) 17:11 < esden> I hate 10Mbit net! 17:11 < esden> It is so terribly slow! 17:13 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy|KFC 17:13 -!- jonath[an] [~jvargas@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 17:13 < jonath[an]> hi guys 17:14 -!- SMP [stefanp@world.WRonline.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:15 < huebi> SMP: The cow is away. And stays away. 17:15 < jonath[an]> :( 17:15 * praenti posts no figlet anymore 17:15 < huebi> praenti: kool 17:16 < huebi> we can have that fun at #flood 17:16 < praenti> ok. but we are not allowed to discuss technical things. ok? 17:16 < praenti> because otherwise esden gets a problem 17:17 < praenti> and the rest too 17:17 < huebi> in #flood? - yes 17:18 < thAlerim> may i joint either? 17:18 < thAlerim> -t ;) 17:18 < huebi> or better #aol hehe 17:19 < armijn> oh my god...what did I do? 17:19 < armijn> I drank Heineken 17:19 < jonath[an]> thst's bad armijn 17:20 < kvak|uninvited> yuck ! 17:20 < armijn> oh boy...Heineken is so evil 17:20 < esden> armijn: tztztz 17:20 < armijn> but it was for free! 17:20 < jonath[an]> William Henry Gates worth almost $20 billion dolars 17:20 < esden> bad boy armijn 17:20 < kvak|uninvited> it was for free ? 17:20 < kvak|uninvited> okay then. 17:20 < thAlerim> lol, huebi 17:21 < praenti> armijn: one thing i always do, i dont drink heineken 17:21 < praenti> btw. why did you do that? 17:21 < jonath[an]> praenti: i do 17:21 * -> esden wants beer ... 17:21 < jonath[an]> praenti: i dont, sorry 17:21 < esden> who wants to come and drink some beer with me ? 17:22 < praenti> esden: come over to me. have a gutmann 17:22 < thAlerim> huebi: :( 17:22 < esden> today afternoon 17:22 < thAlerim> i want to see the one and only COW 17:22 < praenti> no today evening 17:22 < esden> praenti: ahh good idea 17:22 < armijn> praenti: it was for freee! 17:22 < esden> praenti: ... 17:22 < praenti> Freibier. ich will auch eins ;-) 17:22 < armijn> cheap alcohol... 17:22 < huebi> armijn: only 2 hours of live left now. 17:23 < huebi> armijn: get a cow at #flood 17:23 < kvak|uninvited> Okay listen: 17:23 < kvak|uninvited> Everyone get a beer at yar fridge 17:23 < kvak|uninvited> Open. Drink. Enjoy. 17:23 < kvak|uninvited> Tell u. 17:23 * -> esden no beer@fridge.northpole 17:23 < praenti> huebi: you're posting too much to #flood. it is terrible slow 17:24 < armijn> hmm...I know what I'd have in my fridge... 17:24 < huebi> praenti: perhaps #aol is faster? 17:24 < huebi> or is it the server? 17:25 < thAlerim> server 17:25 < praenti> i dont think so. #rocklinux is fast. cant be the server ;-) 17:26 < thAlerim> huebi: test it in #aol 17:26 < praenti> unjoining #flood. otherwise unusefull traffic on apollo 17:26 -!- anders [~guest@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has quit ("have a nice weekend folks...") 17:27 < thAlerim> seems not to be faster 17:27 < thAlerim> huebi should change the server maybe 17:27 < armijn> why does life suck so much? 17:27 < thAlerim> armijn:!! 17:27 < thAlerim> wow 17:27 < armijn> why is always Heineken for free and not a good beer, like Gulpener? 17:27 < thAlerim> you aren't drunk 17:27 < armijn> thalerim: ehr, now I am, actually... 17:27 < praenti> armijn: i dont know. i only get that beer for free that i dont linke... 17:28 < praenti> s/linke/like 17:28 < armijn> right now my driver 17:28 < armijn> 's licence would be taken 17:28 < armijn> not that I have one...but I don't drive a car either. 17:28 < huebi> hmmm 17:29 < jonath[an]> Mike1: still there? 17:29 < esden> clifford: are you here ? 17:29 < Mike1> jonath[an] yes wait i'm in a meeting 17:29 < thAlerim> brb 17:29 < armijn> urgh...export Heineken is actually better than the crap they sell here... 17:29 < armijn> can you imagine? 17:30 < jonath[an]> Heineken arrives to Costa Rica too 17:30 < jonath[an]> :( 17:30 < clifford> esden: yes? 17:30 < kvak|uninvited> Heineken sucks. Estrella Damm is worse, but Heineken tops it. 17:31 < armijn> estrella damm? where does that come from? 17:31 < kvak|uninvited> Q: can someone tell me the difference between CGA und EGA graphics ? 17:31 < kvak|uninvited> armijn> official words: brewery from spain inofficial: simply water 17:32 < armijn> kvak: ah...I only know San Miguel 17:32 < praenti> kvak|uninvited: ega i think has 8 colors. cga only 4 (black white magenta and cyanblue) 17:32 < armijn> kvak: and I've heard of Mahou... 17:32 < kvak|uninvited> armijn> Miguel is great, had some (buckets) of it while staying in Fuerteventura. 17:33 < kvak|uninvited> But Mahou... 17:33 < kvak|uninvited> ...sounds like some stuff from Hawaii - ALOHA. 17:33 < kvak|uninvited> praenti> thx 17:33 < clifford> esden: what did you want? 17:33 < armijn> kvak: not, it's from Madrid 17:33 < esden> ahh 17:33 < esden> sorry 17:34 < esden> clifford: don't you think that we should install the docbookof tho kornel ? 17:34 < esden> argh 17:34 < kvak|uninvited> armijn> so what does it taste like ? is it another member of these near-water-beers ? 17:34 < esden> kernel 17:34 < kvak|uninvited> polska ? 17:34 < kvak|uninvited> *G* 17:34 < armijn> kvak: I don't know...probably, it's spanish 17:34 < clifford> esden: what's that? 17:35 < armijn> clifford; is it a problem if info files don't get installed? 17:35 < esden> this is the documentation of the kernel ... generated of the kernel code 17:36 < esden> you can generate it with make psdoc 17:36 < kvak|uninvited> armijn> you re from NL, right ? 17:36 < armijn> kvak: yeah 17:36 < clifford> armijn: only you need help to the command described in the infor files .. :-) 17:36 < esden> or simmilar for html version aso 17:36 < kvak|uninvited> armijn> tell us some good nl beer 17:36 < SMP> clifford: do you think that the 1.7 system (apart from the actual packages) has stabilized sufficiently to develop a small, heavily customized production-quality Distro off of it? 17:36 < armijn> clifford: well, it's just for egcs64, which behaves much like gcc... 17:36 < clifford> esden: cool! is it complete? 17:36 -!- thAlerim [~be@p508135C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ich kämpfe um den Frieden, indem ich nicht kämpfe. (I fight for peace by not fighting)") 17:37 < armijn> kvak: depends on what kind of beer you want 17:37 < esden> but we do not have the docbook templates in rock at default ... 17:37 < kvak|uninvited> 4,9 turnarounds+ 17:37 < clifford> SMP: we have no install system at the moment. 17:37 < esden> so I could not test it in the train ... 17:37 < esden> I do not have net in the train 17:37 < armijn> kvak: there are a few hundred beers here, don't know them all.. 17:38 < huebi> I'm off to a meeting of the sage@guug now. see you later 17:38 < esden> cu huebi 17:38 < esden> huebi: have fun 17:38 < jonath[an]> bye huebi 17:38 < armijn> sage... 17:39 < SMP> clifford: well, I don't need that. but comes to my mind is of course the move way from tar.bz2 packages 17:39 < armijn> I wonder if I should become a member... 17:39 < armijn> I'm not a sysadmin... 17:39 < Mike1> jonath[an] so you are comming over here? 17:39 < jonath[an]> Mike1: sure 17:39 < huebi> thank you, by. We have to discuss the install system on 1.7. I have many good ideas 17:39 < huebi> by 17:39 < armijn> mike1: sorry, no patches today, need to do more tests, fix more problems 17:39 * Mike1 getting BIER! 17:39 < kvak|uninvited> armijn> havent tried much beer while being in nl - you country offers other 17:39 < armijn> bye huebi! 17:39 < armijn> kvak: from .de? 17:39 < jonath[an]> Mike1: have you change sth in ssh config on nemesis? 17:39 < Mike1> armijn itz ok i have been playing around with 1.7 17:40 < armijn> mike1: you still need patches 17:40 < Mike1> armijn stage 0 clear no problems , stage 1 stopped at dietlibc 17:40 < kvak|uninvited> armijn> yea 17:40 < praenti> esden: have you read my question about the kernel-book? 17:40 < esden> armijn: kvak|uninvited is also from Ingolstadt ;-) 17:40 < Mike1> jonath[an] no why? 17:40 < esden> praenti: ??? 17:40 < armijn> esden: ingolstadt invasion... 17:40 < kvak|uninvited> *drums* 17:40 < armijn> kvak: depends...strong, light? sweet, bitter? dark, light? 17:40 < armijn> kvak: and in which season :) 17:41 < jonath[an]> @ WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @ 17:41 < jonath[an]> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ 17:41 < jonath[an]> IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY! 17:41 < jonath[an]> Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)! 17:41 < jonath[an]> It is also possible that the RSA host key has just been changed. 17:41 < jonath[an]> The fingerprint for the RSA key sent by the remote host is 17:41 < praenti> esden: the book you meant is Understnading the Kernel? 17:41 < jonath[an]> 2c:e0:33:a4:62:4e:e9:db:fd:8e:3a:a9:00:9d:0b:62. 17:41 < jonath[an]> Please contact your system administrator. 17:41 < jonath[an]> Add correct host key in /home/est/2001/jonvargas/.ssh/known_hosts2 to get rid of this message. 17:41 < esden> praenti: argh ... ich ahne schlimmes!!!!!!! 17:41 < jonath[an]> Offending key in /home/est/2001/jonvargas/.ssh/known_hosts2:1 17:41 < jonath[an]> RSA host key for odin.informatica.co.cr has changed and you have requested strict checking. 17:41 < kvak|uninvited> armijn> i seee... 17:41 < praenti> esden: ??? 17:41 < Mike1> jonath[an] rm .ssh/* 17:41 < jonath[an]> Mike1: i did it 17:41 < clifford> SMP: what exactly do you want to do? 17:41 < armijn> kvak: it's that tough...and I also need to do more research first :))) 17:41 < jonath[an]> Mike1: several times 17:41 < Mike1> jonath[an] let me check 17:42 < praenti> esden: can you explain? 17:42 < esden> mom 17:42 < jonath[an]> Mike1: i erase it, exit and login and again the same warning 17:42 < Mike1> jonath[an] no everything seems ok 17:43 < jonath[an]> Mike1: well, dunno, maybe my pc 17:43 < armijn> maybe they upgraded SSH 17:43 < Mike1> jonath[an] rm $HOME/.ssh/know_hosts 17:43 < SMP> clifford: I told you about the blade server project on 18C3... 17:43 < jonath[an]> umm, maybe 17:43 < jonath[an]> Mike1: sure, i did it several times 17:43 < Mike1> armijn i havent upgrade ssh 17:44 < armijn> mike1: then it's suspicious 17:44 < Mike1> jonath[an] go to hack's gateway try from there 17:44 < kvak|uninvited> armijn> i see...so be careful - your journey will have many bottles bringing danger up yar way 17:44 < esden> clifford: dass heisst docBook 17:44 < jonath[an]> Mike1: no prob with gate 17:44 < armijn> jonath[an]: back up the old known_hosts file 17:44 < SMP> clifford: that would best fit as a custom target in 1.7 and not heavy hacking of semi-obsolete code (1.5) 17:44 < esden> ist zu finden in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/DocBook/ 17:44 < jonath[an]> armijn: ive changed PC, now it works 17:44 < armijn> kvak: bottles? nah, tap 17:45 < jonath[an]> Mike1: now it works in other PC 17:45 < jonath[an]> :) 17:45 < esden> praenti: hat sich erlaedigt ... ich habe gedacht dass ich mich mit dem docbook vertan habe ;-) 17:46 < kvak|uninvited> armijn> I see. 17:46 < Mike1> jonath[an] tell your UNI sysadmins they suck 17:46 < clifford> SMP: I see. when should that be ready? 17:46 < jonath[an]> Mike1: dont you want to have the pleasure to say them by urself? 17:47 < armijn> hmm...this should be an interesting bus and train ride... 17:47 < Mike1> jonath[an] hehe yes :D 17:47 < armijn> anywayz, I'm off 17:47 < armijn> cu 17:47 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux () 17:47 < jonath[an]> Mike1: :) 17:47 < praenti> esden: how can i read that files? 17:48 < SMP> clifford: 2-3 months I'd say - more like 3 17:48 < esden> praenti: read /usr/src/linux/README first ;-) 17:48 < Mike1> jonath[an] i have some books here i will borrow 1 or 3 if you like 17:48 < jonath[an]> Mike1: :) , of course 17:49 < Mike1> jonath[an] BTW what time are you getting over here? 17:49 < jonath[an]> Mike1: 17:00, as we agree 17:49 < jonath[an]> Mike1: or am i bad? 17:50 < Mike1> you can come a bit earlier if u want 17:50 < kvak|uninvited> *G* 17:50 < jonath[an]> Mike1: yes, i can 17:50 < praenti> esden: when you know where you can read it its easy... 17:50 < praenti> shitt. cant compile it 17:50 < praenti> *** You need to install DocBook stylesheets *** 17:51 < jonath[an]> Mike1: ok, how late can i arrive there? 17:51 < Mike1> 4 17:52 < jonath[an]> ok 17:52 < jonath[an]> ill arrive that time 17:52 < Mike1> remember how to fet here 17:52 < Mike1> f/g* 17:53 < jonath[an]> sure, behind GBM 17:53 < jonath[an]> :) 17:53 < Mike1> gut 17:53 < jonath[an]> jo 17:53 < Mike1> mom 17:53 < jonath[an]> ok 17:54 < esden> sure that was my problem too 17:54 < esden> @ praenti 17:54 < esden> /link https://sources.redhat.com/docbook-tools/ ;-) 17:56 < praenti> sf has it as sources. but must know where i must copy the *.xsl 17:57 < praenti> README does say: Installation Unpack distribution somewhere 17:57 < esden> praenti /link ? 17:57 < praenti> i dont believe that this will work 17:58 < clifford> SMP: If everything goes fine, we should have a 1.7.0 in 2-3 months. It won't be stable, but stable enought for using it as base for such a project. 17:59 < clifford> I have to go now ... 17:59 < netcrow> esden: was machst heut abend? 18:00 < SMP> bye clifford 18:00 < esden> cu clifford 18:00 < esden> netcrow: weiss ich noch net 18:01 < praenti> bye clifford 18:01 < jonath[an]> cya Cliff 18:01 < kvak|uninvited> not JIT, just more of it 18:02 < Mike1> bye clifford 18:02 < netcrow> esden: bierchentrinken? ;) 18:02 < tsa> clifford: hm....what do you know about geert bevin - there are still a lot of his packages..does he still work with rock or gentoo only? 18:03 < esden> good idea! where ? when? 18:03 < netcrow> esden: 8 uhr? treff ma uns im bitz? 18:03 < praenti> tsa: take some packages. i dont want to maintain all 18:03 -!- clifford [~clifford@M098P004.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Client Exiting") 18:03 < esden> oki 18:03 < kvak|uninvited> oki 18:03 < esden> praenti: kommst auch ? 18:03 < tsa> praenti: i already did - took over nessus yesterday.. 18:03 < esden> kvak|uninvited: auch ? 18:04 < esden> blindy|KFC: auch 18:04 < praenti> tsa: ok 18:04 < netcrow> uni, brandy, ihr auch? 18:04 < tsa> praenti: i've mailed geert several times, but never recieved an answer... 18:04 < praenti> netcrow: i dont think so. im still a little bit ill 18:04 < esden> and then we have a rocklinux bof ;-) 18:04 < netcrow> praenti: alcohol will make you "gesund" 18:04 < tsa> anyway, i'll talk to holyolli and convice him to take over some packages... 18:04 < esden> helthy @ netcrow 18:05 < praenti> tsa: i meet him here in the chat. he told me that he does nothing for rock anymore 18:05 < praenti> xine and common-c++ are mine 18:05 < tsa> praenti: hm...ok, at least that's a final answer. 18:05 < praenti> at the moment i have a little bit lack of time 18:06 * tsa too, but i try to do as much as possible in my spare time... 18:06 < praenti> so i dont have time to patch some packages till 04.05. 18:06 < praenti> then i have more time ;-) 18:06 < praenti> netcrow: ok. i will come 18:06 < netcrow> praenti: yeaa..cool 18:07 < netcrow> okay, an you Uninvited? 18:10 < kvak|uninvited> Maybe training tonite... 18:10 < kvak|uninvited> ...Q3A...n stuff. 18:10 < netcrow> games are something for kids ;) 18:11 < kvak|uninvited> *G* 18:11 < kvak|uninvited> STFU 18:11 -!- Be-El [~blinke@jake.Genetik.Uni-Bielefeld.DE] has quit ("Client Exiting") 18:12 < tsa> bbl. 18:12 -!- tsa [~tsa@rossini.marcant.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 18:13 < rxr> is my connection down - or were this two hors without a post? 18:13 < netcrow> hm.. 18:14 < rxr> (oops the window was not scrolled down :-() 18:14 < rxr> hi 18:14 < netcrow> no cow in this 2 hours ;) 18:14 < Mike1> rxr hi 18:14 < Mike1> rxr got your U5 already? 18:17 < esden> hmm ... 18:18 < praenti> arghhh. jade doesnt compile... 18:19 < rxr> Mike1: No. Hi hope Ripclaw has carried it to the post service yesterday - so it might arrive tomorrow. At least in the next days it should arrive ... ;-) 18:19 < praenti> and i dont speak very much c++ yet 18:19 < rxr> Mike1: I currently rework the autobench and will run gcc vs. gcc3 on your U5 ... 18:20 < Mike1> rxr i need you to help me with something, do you have time? 18:21 * praenti want to throw his mouse on the wall *grml* 18:21 < praenti> but i need this device :-(( 18:21 < praenti> damn developer 18:22 * praenti hoping for a newer version... 18:22 < netcrow> praenti: cut the cable 18:22 < praenti> esden: perhaps your link was bad for that 18:24 -!- jonath[an] is now known as tan[eating] 18:25 < rxr> Mike1: some - what is the problem? 18:26 * praenti try a new thing 18:27 -!- wschlich_ [~wschlich@pD955CDD7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:30 < praenti> ok this might be better. 18:30 < praenti> esden: some things in your link are obsolete 18:31 < praenti> this one is better 18:31 < praenti> https://www.gemini1consulting.com/tekhelp/#dbsgmltoolbox 18:32 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.44.43] has quit ("BitchX Official FTP Site -- ftp://ftp.bitchx.com") 18:37 < netcrow> also, ingolstädter... 8 uhr treff ma uns beim bitz....okay 18:37 < praenti> ok 18:38 -!- netcrow is now known as net|dusch 18:57 -!- net|dusch [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("leaving") 18:58 -!- praenti is now known as praenti_away 19:10 -!- blindy|KFC is now known as blindy|away 19:13 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.44.43] has joined #rocklinux 19:13 < Mike1> re 19:15 * tan[eating] has gotten Solaris 8.0 for Intel archs 19:16 * Mike1 has the 3 cds 19:16 * tan[eating] too :) 19:16 * tan[eating] since now 19:17 < Mike1> congrats my friend 19:17 < tan[eating]> :) 19:18 < tan[eating]> well, ill try it in my k62 19:18 < tan[eating]> im eating .. 19:20 < Mike1> how long does it take u to eat? 19:21 < Mike1> :P 19:31 < tan[eating]> back 19:31 -!- tan[eating] is now known as jonath[an] 19:33 * jonath[an] burning 19:38 -!- thalerim [~be@p508135C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:38 < thalerim> re 19:38 < jonath[an]> hi thalerim 19:39 < thalerim> hello jonath[an] 19:48 < thalerim> jonath[an]: you want to make a C programm listen on a special port? 19:50 < jonath[an]> yes 19:50 < thalerim> just start with (x)inetd 19:50 < thalerim> +it 19:51 -!- kvak|uninvited [uninvited@p50802B56.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("w?Ee0oELo3wnz4m2v5EspI7BMzthMkCrzZSCVcWvaiNo?xPL1rASSjznN2w8Dcx0DPASPw00") 19:57 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:58 < netcrow> okay.. 19:58 < netcrow> i hope praenti_away & esden are on the way ;-) 19:58 * netcrow takes a cigarette 19:59 -!- netcrow is now known as net|smoke 20:06 -!- net|smoke [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("leaving") 20:08 < esden> re hi all 20:08 < Mike1> re esden 20:08 < jonath[an]> hi esden 20:08 < jonath[an]> bye all 20:08 < Mike1> cu jonath[an] 20:08 -!- jonath[an] [~jvargas@208.165.55.137] has left #rocklinux () 20:10 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:22 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A59.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:22 < snyke> hi @all!!! 20:22 < Mike1> hi snyke 20:29 < netcrow> hi 20:37 -!- term_aweh [~pm@beaufort.wyzant.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 20:37 -!- term_aweh [~pm@beaufort.wyzant.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:46 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("leaving") 20:46 < esden> cu ... 20:57 < term_aweh> re 21:13 < Mike1> rxr build failed in util-linux have a look 21:23 * Mike1 having lunch 21:38 < rxr> is some sparc freak online? 21:41 -!- thalerim [~be@p508135C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ich kämpfe um den Frieden, indem ich nicht kämpfe. (I fight for peace by not fighting)") 21:46 < Mike1> rxr you are 21:47 < Mike1> :) 21:48 < rxr> Hi back - nope I just started to look on your U5 - none here - and the gcc put some unsupported opcode - which I (as x86 asembly knower never saw, yet ...) - so currently I'm googling for UtraSparc specs ... 21:49 < Mike1> join #splack or #sparc 21:51 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9E11877.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:51 < Mike1> re tsa 21:52 < tsa> hi Mike1 21:52 < tsa> `cowsay -f small Hi.` 21:53 < tsa> eval for yourself, if applicable. 21:53 < tsa> (esden will probably kill me otherwise ;) 21:54 < rxr> tsa: /me too ... 21:54 < tsa> rxr: ok.. 21:56 < rxr> UltraSPARC User's Manual Complete UltraSPARC Instruction Set (Continued) MOVcc Move integer register if condition is satisfied A.34 21:58 < rxr> 16.2.6.2 Mike you wanna get into it, too ;-)? 21:58 < rxr> This is a bug of slacks gcc - this instruction really seems to be available for Sparc v.8 - not utraspartc ... 21:59 < rxr> ah 21:59 < rxr> ups - sorry missmatch the other way round it is utra-sparc not version 8 sparc 21:59 < rxr> so the (g)as complains about it, because it is configured for sparclite .. 22:05 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A59.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:17 < rxr> Mike1: the gcc 3.0.4 causes the same output to be generated ... :-( I have to get deeper into this tomorrow ... 22:18 < Mike1> rxr yeah i wanna see that 22:18 < Mike1> rxr i already sent a report of the problem to rock-ports 22:18 < Mike1> where did you get that manual i wanna have a look at it 22:18 < rxr> https://www.sun.com/microelectronics/manuals/index.html 22:23 < rxr> We might need to take a look into the binutils and gcc source to see which one fails ... 22:23 < Mike1> hehe gut danke 22:23 < Mike1> yeah we might 22:32 < tsa> Mike1: regarding you mail to the list - are you trying to build sparc or sparc64 ? 22:33 < Mike1> tsa sparc64 :) 22:33 < Mike1> sparc tareget in 1.7 is set for sparc64 22:33 < Mike1> tareget/target 22:34 < tsa> Mike1: hm....ok. contact the mailing list at dietlibc@fefe.de - they might help resolving this issue. 22:35 < tsa> would be cool to get dietlibc running on sparc64. 22:35 < Mike1> tsa yeah but i don't think it is supported for sparc yet :( 22:36 < tsa> the dietlibc homepage states: 22:36 < tsa> The diet libc is a libc that is optimized for small size. It can be used to create small statically linked binaries for Linux on alpha, arm, hppa, mips, s390, sparc, sparc64, ppc and i386. 22:36 < tsa> as it includes sparc64, it could be interesting to the developers. 22:36 < Mike1> hehe yeah i will sent it to them thanks tsa 22:37 < tsa> no problem. 22:37 < Mike1> tsa you got a sparc? 22:37 < tsa> the homepage has some prebuilt binaries for different arch's, but not for sparc64 - interesting 22:37 < tsa> Mike1: ultra10, 300mhz, 256mb ram. 22:38 < Mike1> tsa very nice so you tried building 1.7? 22:39 < tsa> Mike1: no, i didn't. it's currently running sunOS 5.8 and still has the damn slow IDE disk. I'll have to install a scsi controller and reinstall first. 22:39 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:39 < holyolli> re 22:39 < tsa> tag holyolli 22:39 < holyolli> moin tsa 22:40 < rxr> tsa: Mike1: sparc64 with 64 bit userspce seems to be non-stable currently - and I think ROCK build 32bit sparc binaries ... 22:40 < tsa> holyolli: would you be interesting in taking over some packages on sf cvs? geert bevin left rock, but there are still a lot of packages from him.. 22:41 < Mike1> tsa ok 22:41 < holyolli> tsa: which packages are you speaking about? 22:41 < Mike1> rxr yeah it builds 32 22:41 < holyolli> (generally yes, but i don't buy the katze in the sack ;) 22:41 < tsa> holyolli: grep -ri Bevin package/sourceforge/* 22:42 < tsa> rxr: we don't need to use 64bit userspace - but it would be nice if we could... ;-) 22:42 < holyolli> <-- is grepping ;) 22:42 < holyolli> wharks! 22:43 < rxr> tsa: sure. I'll definitely get into all the low-level stuff. But first we should focus on the semi-stable 32bit binaries and the we can extend to the 64 bit version. 22:43 < rxr> the binutils and gcc might also need fixing to get 64bit userspace working 22:43 < tsa> rxr: by the way....i will no longer update any 1.5 packages on sf cvs. it's not worth the time, IMHO. 22:43 -!- thalerim [~be@p508135C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:43 < thalerim> re 22:43 < rxr> tsa: I never did - I have only time for 1.7 - and it is worthless to discuss anything with Pjotr ... 22:44 < tsa> it's better to make patches against huebi's tree.. 22:44 < tsa> rxr: ack. 22:44 < holyolli> tsa: which packages are still unmaintained from the list of bevin? 22:44 < tsa> i guess we all have seen that. 22:44 < tsa> holyolli: all of them. 22:44 < holyolli> d'oh 22:44 < tsa> i've taken over nessus yesterday. 22:44 < Mike1> tsa i could take some 22:44 < tsa> this sounds fine. 22:44 < tsa> rxr: you are project admin at sf, aren't you? 22:44 < rxr> tsa: also some sparc people say that 64 bit userspace might be slower for most app, due to the much bigger binaries resuling of the 64 bit code ... 22:45 < rxr> yes - i'm one 22:45 < holyolli> tsa: i think i can also take some.... 22:45 < tsa> holyolli, Mike1: sign up at sourceforge and tell rxr your username so he can add you.. 22:45 < holyolli> tsa: holyolli 22:45 < holyolli> ;) 22:46 < tsa> i am not rxr ;) 22:46 < holyolli> tsa: :-P 22:46 < tsa> rxr: looks like we've got two new developers on cvs... 22:46 < holyolli> <-- tired 22:46 * tsa happy. 22:46 < Mike1> rxr herk i think i am already there 22:46 * Mike1 taking xchat *g 22:47 < rxr> Mike1: what is your sf ID ? 22:47 < holyolli> .oO(damn...2l8 ;) 22:47 < Mike1> rxr herk 22:47 < tsa> hehehe 22:48 * holyolli takes xcdroast 22:48 * Mike1 taking also xpp 22:49 * holyolli takes a beer.. ;) 22:49 < Mike1> BIER!!! 22:49 < rxr> isn't xcdroast not already in extra1 ? 22:49 < Mike1> :) 22:49 * tsa is happy to know more packages will get updated soon.. 22:49 < Mike1> rxr yeah its in extra1 22:49 < holyolli> rxr: /me doesn't have the actual snap here... 22:49 < rxr> so I'll might erase it in cvs ... 22:50 < Mike1> tsa btw did see my patch to curl? 22:50 < holyolli> tsa: brennste mir eine? ;) 22:50 < hackbard> bye 22:50 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@p50807992.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 22:51 < thalerim> https://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2002036566419.gif <- lol :) 22:51 < tsa> Mike1: yes.. 22:52 < rxr> Mike1: weren't you allreay registed on ROCK sf cvs? 22:53 < Mike1> rxr yeah said that i think pj had already added me 22:53 < rxr> ahh ok 22:53 < Mike1> rxr cvs commands to get the tree please 22:53 < holyolli> rxr: then i'll take cdrdao.. 22:53 < rxr> holyolli: you are added too 22:54 < rxr> holyolli: I think this is also in extra1 ... ;-) 22:54 < tsa> cvs howto: 22:54 < tsa> export CVS_RSH="ssh" 22:54 < tsa> export CVSROOT=:ext:YOURNAMEHERE@cvs.rock-package.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/rock-package 22:54 < rxr> https://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=24827 22:54 < tsa> ssh YOURNAMEHERE@cvs.rock-package.sourceforge.net 22:54 < tsa> cvs co package 22:54 < tsa> -- work -- 22:54 < tsa> -- edit changelog -- 22:55 < tsa> cvs up -d 22:55 < tsa> cvs ci 22:55 < tsa> that's it. 22:57 < Mike1> tsa danke 22:57 < holyolli> rxr: is gqview o.k.? 22:58 < rxr> yes ;-) the rest is ok - too! You are free to send any update fixes to Cliff or me ... 22:58 < holyolli> ack. 22:59 < tsa> Mike1: no problem. 22:59 < rxr> ok cdrdao is not yet in extra1 - should I just add it ? (I like the normal files tree _maintained_ by Cliff much more then the sf cvs ...) 23:00 < thalerim> :;,(){ ,|,&};,;:; 23:00 < rxr> thalerim: ? 23:01 < thalerim> :(){ :|:&};: 23:01 < thalerim> :) 23:01 < holyolli> rxr: yes 23:01 < Mike1> rxr he is just trying to hight his ircstatus :) 23:01 < Mike1> heh thalerim 23:01 < thalerim> rxr: simple fork bom implanted in bash 23:02 < thalerim> *bomb 23:02 < tsa> hehe 23:03 < tsa> a(){ a|a&};a <-- this way it's easier to understand.. 23:04 < thalerim> :P 23:08 < rxr> very effective - just killed my X 23:08 < holyolli> *g* 23:09 < thalerim> using in cygwin it will crash the whole system 23:09 < rxr> hehe 23:09 < rxr> The crsh of X might be a bug in it - maybe some kind of time out during the kernel swapped 512 MB back out of the swap ... 23:10 < thalerim> take a look at your memory workload 23:11 < rxr> not today 23:12 < rxr> I'll take a look if Harald Scmidt Show is a good watch this night - and at least ater it I'll visit my two metres ... 23:12 < tsa> have fun. rxr 23:12 < rxr> tsa: didn't you wanted to fix the sf categories? 23:12 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A76.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:12 < tsa> rxr: didn't have time so far. 23:12 < snyke> ah 23:12 < snyke> shit ;( 23:13 < rxr> taking a look at the new .cache files I get the impression that nearly no package build in Cliffs reference build ... 23:14 < rxr> who foudn xcdroast in sourceforge - it isn't in the 1.7 tree ... 23:14 < rxr> *) 2002-03-01 (1.5.12 - 1.7.0) 23:14 < rxr> - Rene Rebe: removed cups, lame, libdvdread, ogle, vlc, xcdroast, xine 23:14 < tsa> here we go.... 23:15 < tsa> who has taken acroread? 23:15 < holyolli> .oO("Seiltänzerleserabbrüche") 23:16 < tsa> holyolli: du hast cdrdao? 23:17 < tsa> cdrdao: Unknown package category: console/filesystems 23:17 < tsa> cdrdao: Unknown package category: gnome/filesystems 23:17 < esden> re hi all 23:17 < tsa> hi esden 23:17 < holyolli> tsa: das ist doch laut rxr nun bei cliffords sammlung ;) 23:17 < holyolli> hi esden 23:17 < tsa> hm...ok 23:17 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:17 < esden> ahh beer is a good thing 23:17 < esden> ;-) 23:18 < tsa> holyolli: ok, was hast du? 23:18 < netcrow> hm....gutmann powered :) 23:18 < holyolli> gqview 23:18 < holyolli> (tsa) 23:18 < tsa> gqmpeg: Unknown package category: multimedia/mp3 23:18 < tsa> gqmpeg: Unknown package status: alpha 23:18 < tsa> gqview: Unknown package category: multimedia/graphic 23:18 < tsa> gqview: Unknown package status: stable 23:18 < tsa> gqview: No [I|TITLE] tag found. 23:18 < tsa> gqview: No [A|AUTHOR] tag found. 23:18 < tsa> gqview: No [L|LICENSE] tag found. 23:19 < tsa> bei der gelegenheit bitte auch gleich die [M]-Tags anpassen.. 23:20 < holyolli> jo 23:21 < tsa> categories sind in Documentation/Developers/PKG-CATEGORIES 23:22 < esden> argh ... alsa is not building on alpha ... 23:22 < esden> >_< 23:23 < holyolli> esden: hastu komische alpha.... 23:23 < holyolli> erm 23:23 < holyolli> esden: you have a strange alpha... ;) 23:25 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("leaving") 23:26 -!- thalerim [~be@p508135C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ich kämpfe um den Frieden, indem ich nicht kämpfe. (I fight for peace by not fighting)") 23:26 < holyolli> esden: how does that come that both alphas don't compile the same packages? 23:33 < esden> holyolli: hmm ... seems so ... 23:33 < holyolli> what is the error compiling alsa? 23:33 < holyolli> again some io.h-stuff? 23:35 -!- term_aweh [~pm@beaufort.wyzant.de] has quit ("good night") 23:36 < esden> i think that it depends on the os ... i have currently debian on it ... and the version of the sys ... i have : zeta:~# uname -a 23:36 < esden> Linux zeta 2.4.17 #2 Fri Feb 15 08:59:04 CET 2002 alpha unknown 23:36 < esden> zeta:~# 23:36 < esden> and you ? 23:36 < holyolli> snoopy:~# uname -a 23:36 < holyolli> Linux snoopy 2.4.17 #6 Fre Dez 28 00:38:44 CET 2001 alpha unknown 23:37 < holyolli> but under rocklinux 23:37 < esden> i have not fully analized my .err's 23:37 < esden> mom 23:37 < holyolli> maybe you just install a rock-alpha-binary - then it maybe better 23:38 < esden> alsa.err : 23:38 < esden> In file included from /rock-linux/src/alsa-driver-0.9.0beta12/include/sound/driver.h:43, 23:38 < esden> from ../alsa-kernel/core/timer.c:22, 23:38 < esden> from timer.c:1: 23:38 < esden> /rock-linux/src/alsa-driver-0.9.0beta12/include/adriver.h:105: warning: `struct inode' declared inside parameter list 23:38 < esden> /rock-linux/src/alsa-driver-0.9.0beta12/include/adriver.h:105: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, which is probably not w 23:38 < esden> hat you want. 23:38 < esden> /rock-linux/src/alsa-driver-0.9.0beta12/include/adriver.h: In function `PDE': 23:38 < esden> /rock-linux/src/alsa-driver-0.9.0beta12/include/adriver.h:107: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type 23:38 < esden> /rock-linux/src/alsa-driver-0.9.0beta12/include/adriver.h:108: warning: control reaches end of non-void function 23:38 < esden> make[1]: *** [timer.o] Error 1 23:38 < esden> make[1]: Leaving directory `/rock-linux/src/alsa-driver-0.9.0beta12/acore' 23:38 < esden> make: *** [compile] Error 1 23:38 < esden> sorry ... because of the flood ;-) 23:38 < holyolli> i had installed redhat linux before and had also a lot of compile errors... 23:39 < snyke> oh 23:39 < snyke> shit *g* 23:39 < esden> holyolli: i will finish the build and reinstall the sys 23:39 < snyke> esdi: crescchat chatserver is killing my system :) 23:39 < holyolli> if you need some binaries just for installation - it's no prob... 23:40 < esden> i hava currently all I need to reinstall my box beside aboot ... 23:40 < esden> when I have aboot I will be able to reinstall 23:40 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:40 < snyke> hi netcrow 23:40 < netcrow> hi 23:40 < esden> re netcrow 23:41 < holyolli> doesn't compile it? 23:41 < holyolli> hi netcrow 23:42 < esden> do I have the packet at all ? 23:42 < holyolli> i c... 23:44 < esden> nope i checked ... i do not have it yet ... 23:44 < esden> I have to hack it in the sys 23:44 * holyolli ist just wondering, where aboot is... 23:44 < holyolli> *grummel* 23:46 < esden> holyolli: you can get it from debian ... they are currently maintaining it ... there is no official maintainer ... so every distribution is maintaining it for themselves ... ;-) 23:47 < esden> so I will steal it from debian ;-) 23:47 < esden> it works that is enough ;-) 23:47 < holyolli> hehe 23:47 < esden> aboot will be the most work ;-) 23:48 < esden> when I have it then all should be ok ... 23:48 < esden> or do we need something else ? 23:49 < esden> holyolli: what do you think ? 23:49 < netcrow> hmm..i will go smoke now.. 23:49 < holyolli> i didn't need anything more 23:49 < holyolli> the only problem were some missing symlinks in /etc/ 23:49 < holyolli> but it was an problem in a earlier version of rock 23:49 < holyolli> (and maybe a layer-8-problem... ;-) 23:49 < esden> what are you using to boot rock ? 23:49 < holyolli> aboot... 23:49 &