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--- Log opened Fri Apr 26 00:00:11 2002 --- Day changed Fri Apr 26 2002 00:00 -!- jonath[an] is now known as jonath[away] 00:33 -!- clifford_away [~clifford@62.46.0.104] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00:44 -!- clifford_away [~clifford@M089P020.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 00:45 < rxr> ./scripts/Check-PkgFormat -repository sourceforge | wc -l 00:45 < rxr> 66 00:45 < rxr> ;-) 00:56 < hackbard> gn8 00:57 < rxr> n8! 00:58 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@p50807646.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("relax(T[s])=2,3") 01:03 < rxr> wow only 32 errors left ;-)))))) 01:03 < rxr> (now try build the packages and contiue to fix the probs there ...) 01:03 * SMP wonders how many times again rxr is going to commit 'last fixes' today ;> 01:05 < rxr> SMP: this was only one big commit ... 01:06 < rxr> now the last CHANGELOG update got out ... 01:07 < SMP> I know 01:09 < tsa> ls -la 01:09 < rxr> tsa: ? 01:09 < tsa> hm...wrong window. 01:09 < tsa> sorry. 01:10 < rxr> ok I need sleep -> n8 ;-)! 01:10 < tsa> n8 rxr 01:10 -!- rxr is now known as rxr_zZ 01:10 < SMP> bye rxr 01:35 < ripclaw> nite folks, i need sleep bitterly. gotta party in less than 6 hours. 01:35 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p50816E65.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("[x]chat") 02:02 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 02:02 < Mike1> re all 02:18 -!- Mike2 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 02:18 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:47 < tsa> n8 02:47 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082AE92.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 03:27 -!- Mike2 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit ("[BX] This BitchX's for you") 05:58 -!- Netsplit carter.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: clifford_away 05:58 -!- Netsplit over, joins: clifford_away 05:58 -!- Netsplit over, joins: clifford_away 05:59 -!- Netsplit carter.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: SMP 06:00 -!- Netsplit over, joins: SMP 08:07 -!- Bevin [~gbevin@adsl-34302.turboline.skynet.be] has joined #rocklinux 08:07 < Bevin> hi 08:34 -!- clifford_away [~clifford@M089P020.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08:48 -!- clifford_away [~clifford@62.46.1.158] has joined #rocklinux 10:30 -!- nerula_ [~nerula@80.116.151.30] has joined #rocklinux 10:30 < nerula_> hi 10:31 < nerula_> needs to speak english here? 10:57 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pc19.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:57 -!- rxr_zZ is now known as rxr 10:58 -!- nerula_ [~nerula@80.116.151.30] has quit ("Client Exiting") 10:59 < huebi> moin rxr 10:59 < rxr> moin huebi ;-) 11:12 < rxr> huebi: KOffice-1.2-beta1 got released: https://www.koffice.org/announcements/announce-1.2-beta1.phtml 11:12 < huebi> *click* 11:13 < th> moin leute 11:13 < huebi> hi th 11:13 < rxr> moin th! 11:14 < rxr> * kurz weg 11:14 < th> boah um halb eins hab ich nen vierfachen-espresso gekillt. ich bin immernoch voll auf droge 11:14 < th> der war stark 11:15 < huebi> th: so lange wie du keinen Nesscafe direkt aus dem Glas loeffelst, bist dunoch nicht richtig suechtig ;> 11:15 < th> ich trinke sonst nie kaffee 11:16 < th> darum schlaegt der staerker durch 11:16 < th> aber ich hab die nacht beim kunden verbracht 11:16 < th> um 0800 dann ins bett... aber mehr als 3 stunden "schlaf" hab ich nich geschaft 11:16 < th> da fliesst noch zuviel coffein die venen entlang 11:25 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:25 < holyolli> moin 11:27 < huebi> th: Nachtschichten lasse ich hier den Helpdesk des Kunden machen ;-) heh 11:27 < th> hehe 11:27 < holyolli> moin huebi 11:27 < huebi> moin holyolli 11:29 < huebi> die haben vorgestern den PDC und einen grossen Fileserver gelyncht und hatten dann bis gestern Mittag Spass damit. Und ich sag' noch: tu' das nicht... Aber nein, es muss doch windose benutzt werden. 11:29 < holyolli> *lol* 11:31 < th> hehe 11:34 < huebi> Ach noch was nettes: Zwischen einem Exchange Server und den Outlookclient werden, wenn Verschluesselung aktiviert ist, nur die Mails aber nicht die Passworte verschluesselt ausgetauscht. Damit man halt nicht gesehen wird wer welche mails vom Chef liesst. ;> 11:34 < huebi> -man 11:34 < holyolli> hehe 11:35 < th> wie editier ich am duemmsten ein ps? 11:35 -!- tsa [~tsa@rossini.marcant.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:35 < holyolli> tsa 11:35 < tsa> moin allerseits. 11:35 < holyolli> tsa: geh arbeiten :-P 11:35 < tsa> hi holyolli 11:35 < tsa> hehe 11:35 < holyolli> opfer 11:35 < huebi> Wie aendere ich eigendlich die MAC-Adresse einer Netzwerkkarte im Betrieb. Ich muss hier mal die switche testen :-) 11:36 < holyolli> ettercap 11:36 < th> aehm 11:36 < holyolli> damit kannst du dann auch gleich öööhm "debuggen" 11:36 < th> ifconfig 11:36 < tsa> bei solaris geht's mit ifconfig 11:36 < th> bei linux auch 11:36 < th> hw class address 11:37 < th> Set the hardware address of this interface, if the 11:37 < th> device driver supports this operation. The keyword 11:37 < th> must be followed by the name of the hardware class 11:37 < th> and the printable ASCII equivalent of the hardware 11:37 < th> address. Hardware classes currently supported 11:37 < th> include ether (Ethernet), ax25 (AMPR AX.25), ARCnet 11:37 < th> and netrom (AMPR NET/ROM). 11:37 < tsa> hm... 11:37 < huebi> Ich mag das, wenn bei den switchen alle gleichzeitig blinken.... 11:37 < huebi> +LED's 11:37 < tsa> "if the device supports this operation" 11:38 < th> tsa: sollte bei den meisten NICs nich das problem sein 11:38 < tsa> was passiert wohl bei MAC=FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF ? 11:38 < holyolli> *fg* 11:39 < th> also. wie manipulier ich nun postscripts (bitmaps austauschen) 11:40 < tsa> # ifconfig eth0 ether FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF 11:40 < tsa> ether: Unknown host 11:40 < tsa> hm... 11:40 < holyolli> tsa: weil du nix kannst(tm) ;-) 11:41 < tsa> holyolli: mach's besser. 11:41 < holyolli> nö 11:41 < th> och du kannst ja wirklich nix 11:41 < th> moment 11:41 < huebi> lol 11:41 < th> /sbin/ifconfig eth0 x.y.z.a broadcast ... netmask ... hw ether aa:bb:cc..... 11:42 < th> hw ether statt ether also 11:42 < tsa> SIOCSIFHWADDR: Device or resource busy 11:43 < tsa> war das interface bei dir vorher down? 11:44 < th> ich habs beim initialen UP mitgesetzt 11:44 < th> also ja 11:44 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pc19.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit ("leaving") 11:44 < tsa> hm...ok, das geht hier grad nicht, sonst is uplink weg. 11:45 < tsa> ;) 11:45 < holyolli> tsa: warmduscher! 11:45 -!- term_emu [~pm@beaufort.wyzant.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:46 < th> ich glaub hw ether aliasing geht noch nicht ;) 11:48 -!- anders [~guest@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has joined #rocklinux 11:48 < anders> mrrrrning.. 11:48 < tsa> hm....hier klappt's nich.....vielleicht macht die karte das nich mit. 11:48 < tsa> hi anders 11:48 < anders> re tsa 11:48 < holyolli> hi anders 11:49 * anders muses, OpenBSD in VMware will not allow you to swap consoles... 11:49 < anders> re holyolli 11:49 < anders> problem being that OpenBSD(i386) swaps consoles with C-A-Fkey, which XFree86 also happens to use.. 11:50 < anders> *bummer* 11:50 < tsa> hm....wie gross is nen ethernet-header? 11:50 < holyolli> set LANG=en_EN 11:50 < tsa> 6+6+? 11:50 < term_emu> re 11:50 < holyolli> hi term_emu 11:50 < tsa> hi term_emu 11:50 < anders> re term_emu 11:57 -!- tsa [~tsa@rossini.marcant.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 11:57 -!- tsa [~tsa@rossini.marcant.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:57 < tsa> re. 11:57 < tsa> hm...irgendwas ist hier hin. auf console schalten sollte eigentlich nicht damit enden, dass die kiste tot ist. 12:01 < esden> hi all 12:02 < holyolli> hi esden 12:02 < tsa> moin esden 12:02 < holyolli> esden: did you try aboot? 12:02 < tsa> https://esden.unter.prominews.net/ <- hehe 12:02 < holyolli> *fg* 12:10 < anders> *sniff* /me can't read the article.. my german is non-existant.. 12:11 < tsa> hm.....you could try translating it with babelfish 12:11 < esden> holyolli: I had no time yet ... 12:11 < esden> tsa: where do you get such junk ? 12:12 < anders> babelfish xlate would probably only confuse me even more.. :) 12:12 < huebi> anders: Just take one of these cheap daily newspaper with the big letters and exchange the name of the person in an article of your choice with esden :-) 12:13 < huebi> esden: I _never_ thought such things about you. Why do you do such nasty things? 12:14 < anders> huebi: Ah, a little like "The Sport" in UK then.... ;-) 12:15 < anders> so what does Pinkler mean? 12:15 < anders> Park I assume means just that... 12:15 < anders> (as in green area with trees..) 12:15 < praenti> is here 12:15 < praenti> moin 12:18 < anders> re praenti 12:22 < praenti> huebi: can you say me what this means 12:22 < praenti> leela:/usr/local/dist # cvs -d :ext:praenti@rocklinux.dyndns.org:/home/cvs/cvsroot up rock-1.5 12:22 < praenti> p508172D2.dip.t-dialin.net: Connection refused 12:22 < praenti> cvs [update aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) 12:25 < anders> praenti: no cvs server running on remote side? 12:28 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:38 < esden> huebi: it is fun ;-) 12:39 < esden> *fg* 12:40 < esden> huhu praenti 12:41 < huebi> bbl Pinkler = someone who pisses... 12:42 < anders> huebi: I guessed it could be, but I wasn't sure.. 12:42 < anders> swedish and german do have some similarities.. :) 12:42 < anders> (the swedish phrase would be "Park-Pinkare") 12:46 < praenti> huebi: i've read in the changelog that th deleted the .pz .conf and .dec files. do you generate the from the Puzzle script now? 12:47 < praenti> s/\.dec/\.desc 12:47 < praenti> i hope my regexp is right 12:50 < praenti> huebi: another thing to do. can you check if anders is right with his answer to my error? 12:51 < esden> k megatokyo image printed ... 12:51 * anders was just guessing.. not got _huge_ experience with cvs so far.. 12:51 < esden> *jump* that is so kawaii 12:52 < esden> https://www.megatokyo.com/index.php?strip_id=118 12:54 < huebi> praenti: I have a look now 12:55 < praenti> esden: you're crazy ;-) 13:03 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9523C5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:03 < hackbard> moin 13:05 < esden> https://www.megatokyo.com/index.php?strip_id=158 <-- auuutsch that is kicking ass 13:07 < esden> the next one is also not bad : s/strip_id=158/strip_id=159/ 13:09 < esden> moin hackbard ... so by thy way ;-) 13:09 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:09 < holyolli> re 13:10 < esden> re holyolli 13:10 < praenti> re hollyolli 13:10 < holyolli> hi praenti 13:10 * praenti trying a new kernel. rebooting 13:18 * anders does a quick hack to test i/o data integrity.... 13:18 * holyolli drinks coffee... 13:18 * huebi schreibt Rechnungen... 13:18 < praenti> shitt. forgotten to compile my promise in the the kernel 13:19 < praenti> 2.4.18 kernel is rubbish 13:19 < praenti> <-- get unresolved symbols with iptables 13:20 < huebi> praenti: You missed some mor modules ;> 13:20 < holyolli> huebi: hattest du eigendlich mal wegen den displays nachgesehen? 13:21 < praenti> huebi: i dont think so. same configuration with 2.4.19pre7 run without an error 13:21 < esden> schidde ich muss mich endlich um die displays kuemmern ... scheisseee!!! ich brauche mehr zeit ... ich will nen 240 stunden tag!!!! 13:21 < esden> arrrggggh 13:22 < esden> dass kotzt mich jetzt an 13:22 < esden> so ein scheiss ... ich brauche auch mehr geld .... grrrml ... 13:22 < esden> *bodentret* 13:23 < esden> ich habe 2 tage fuer die scheiss info hausaufgabe gebraucht ... und gestern bin ich eingepennt am nachmittag ... so eine zeitverschwaendung !!! 13:23 < esden> argl 13:25 < holyolli> esden: dann sag' mir mal wo ich da infos bekomme und ich bestell' die dann :) 13:27 -!- term_emu is now known as term_aweh 13:27 < esden> die displays fuer huebi und mich habe ich schon ... ich habe meins an meinen rechner schon angeschlossen ... ich muss aber noch ein kabel fuer huebi loeten ... und noch ein geheuse machen ... 13:28 < esden> aber ich komme nicht dazu ... 13:28 < holyolli> wo hast du die denn her? 13:28 < holyolli> also die displays? 13:29 < esden> der huebi hat die displays bei elektronikladen in muenchen bestellt ... ich suche gleich die url ... aber da sind die teuer .. er hat aber auch noch ne andere bezugsquelle gefunden wo man die billiger bekommt aber ich weiss die nicht ... 13:31 < esden> ich werde versuchen mich naechste woche um dass display fuer huebi zu kuemmern ... denn da ist ein feiertag und dadurch habe ich weniger zu tun fuer die uni ... ausserdem haben wir studenten vollversammlung was mir noch ein bissel mehr zeit verschafft ... 13:31 < esden> aber meine todo liste ist elend lang ... 13:31 < esden> dass regt auf 13:32 * -> esden sucht die elektronekladen url 13:32 < esden> < 13:32 < hackbard> ich muss graphen aus messdaten plotten und mir ausgleichsgeraden samt fehler bestimmen lassen. normal wuerde ich excel anschmeissen, aber ich frage mich ob jemand vielleicht ein gutes linux prog kennt, sollte aber nicht diese staroffice sein, denn ich glaube das sucked total. 13:32 < hackbard> moin esden btw ;) 13:34 < esden> https://www.elektronikladen.de/ela-muenchen.html 13:34 < praenti> esden: willst du meine futurama.dnsalias.net haben? 13:34 < esden> https://www.elektronikladen.de/lcd.html 13:38 < esden> praenti: warum ? 13:39 < esden> oder besser walum .. ? 13:39 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 13:39 < armijn> re 13:40 < tsa> hi armijn 13:40 < armijn> hi 13:41 < praenti> esden: weil ich mir nen neuen satz hole und meine rechnernamen umstelle 13:42 < praenti> hätt ja sein können dass du die willst nachdem du sowieso auf futurama-namen bist 13:42 < armijn> bevin awake? 13:45 < tsa> probaly not. 13:45 < esden> praenti: neee ich habe mein home.esden.net 13:45 < armijn> jaja, genau 13:45 < esden> dass ist eh cooler 13:45 < esden> ;-) 13:46 < armijn> ganz viel cooler, jah, toll! 13:46 * praenti hat jetzt biersorten.dyndns.org 13:46 < praenti> ;-)) 13:48 < tsa> hehehe 13:50 < anders> re armijn 13:51 < armijn> hi anders. 13:55 < Bevin> armijn: brb xwrits pause 13:55 < armijn> bevin: ok 13:57 < armijn> in the mean time I will start mozilla 13:59 < anders> praenti: did you get your cvs probbs sorted? 14:00 < Bevin> back 14:01 < praenti> anders: huebi didnt answer me yet. problems are still there 14:01 < praenti> huebi: have you checked your cvs? 14:01 < armijn> bevin: because everybody here tends to talk in German, I think it is ok if I do this in Dutch >:-> 14:01 < Bevin> armijn: go ahead 14:02 < armijn> bevin: die sandbox, is die al klaar? Je zou die toch afgelopen vrijdag uitbrengen? 14:02 < armijn> bevin: of heb je vertraging opgelopen (lijkt de Nederlandse Spoorwegen wel :) 14:02 < Bevin> armijn: ja ik heb vertraging opgelopen met het 'officiëel' uitbrengen met docs enzo, maar de sandbox is klaar 14:03 < armijn> bevin: aha, maar de docs, die zijn wel belangrijk...beschrijf je daarin ook de architectuur? 14:03 < praenti> armijn: Dutch is sometimes very similiar to german and then very different...fascinating 14:03 < Bevin> armijn: kort, ja, er is niet veel te beschrijven 14:03 < armijn> praenti: oh yeah :) 14:03 < armijn> bevin: maar wel welke technieken je gebruikt? strace? LD_PRELOAD? 14:04 < Bevin> armijn: het is nog steeds gebaseerd of het wrappen van libc calls, ptrace heb ik niet verder aan gewerkt 14:04 < armijn> bevin: maar...met statisch gelinkte programma's heb je daar dus niks aan...of wel? 14:04 < Bevin> armijn: het past /etc/ld.so.preload dynamisch aan in een threadsafe manier 14:04 < Bevin> armijn: exact 14:05 < Bevin> armijn: er zijn ook een hele resem env vars die de sandbox dynamisch configureren 14:05 < armijn> bevin: ik ben benieuwd...maar wat wil je ook alweer precies afvangen? 14:05 < armijn> open()? 14:06 < Bevin> armijn: alle syscalls die files aanraken 14:06 < armijn> bevin: ok... 14:06 < armijn> I think that's enough Dutch for today... 14:06 < armijn> well, Germans, how does that feel when someone suddenly starts talking in his native language on an international channel? 14:06 < esden> cu all 14:06 < armijn> I hope I made myself clear... 14:06 * -> esden going home 14:06 < armijn> bye esden 14:07 < armijn> esden: have fun with Alpha >:-> 14:07 < esden> armijn: will have will have 14:07 < huebi> praenti: I had a look at the cvs. but now I have to restore the configuration cvstracker killed the configs without asking. 14:07 < armijn> bevin: ever looked at if you could track those calls in the kernel? 14:07 < armijn> bevin: will require a kernel patch, though 14:07 < Bevin> armijn: https://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/gentoo-src/portage/src/sandbox/ 14:07 < praenti> armijn: really evil 14:08 < Bevin> armijn: yes, that would require a kernel patch 14:08 < Bevin> armijn: ptrace should work though, but it's architecture dependant 14:08 < Bevin> armijn: there's a whole collection of magic number 14:08 < Bevin> armijn: that change according to the processor and that are documented nowhere 14:09 < Bevin> armijn: that why I put the ptrace implementation on hold 14:09 < armijn> bevin: what about adapting RSBAC? 14:09 < Bevin> what's that? 14:09 < armijn> Rule Set Based Access Control 14:09 < armijn> www.rsbac.org 14:09 < Bevin> never looked at it 14:09 < Bevin> bookmarked it for later reading 14:09 < armijn> it's intended for security, but might be possible to adapt it for this sandbox 14:11 < Bevin> right 14:11 < Bevin> I'm not so hot on kernel patches though 14:11 < armijn> I can imagine 14:15 -!- Bevin [~gbevin@adsl-34302.turboline.skynet.be] has quit ("Client Exiting") 14:22 * anders wonders if OpenBSD's kernel configuration tools are similar to the ones in the Linux kernel... 14:25 -!- Bevin [~gbevin@adsl-34302.turboline.skynet.be] has joined #rocklinux 14:25 < Bevin> re 14:26 < holyolli> hi Bevin 14:34 < praenti> re bevin 14:55 < praenti> i hate our weather. 30 minutes ago sun is shining. now we have strong raining... :-( 14:55 < holyolli> ...hey..you aren't living in bielefeld... 14:56 < praenti> thats terrible if you want to go outsinde with laptop and some programming 14:56 < holyolli> _there_ is really always bad weather 14:56 < holyolli> *fg* 14:57 < praenti> shitt. its a thunderstorm. i hope we have no lighting, for the moment didnt see or here one. 14:58 < praenti> otherwise i would be afrid of my computers 14:58 < armijn> wuss. 14:58 < holyolli> no usv? 14:58 < praenti> no usv! 14:58 < armijn> I hope it will be dry tomorrow 14:58 < holyolli> oh 14:58 < armijn> probably not 14:58 < praenti> armijn: do you want to do something special tomorrow? 14:59 < armijn> praenti: yeah, outdoor festival :-/ 14:59 < armijn> in Belgium 14:59 < th> huebi: what's up with cvstrac? 14:59 < tsa> hm.....anybody has any experience with zebra? 14:59 < praenti> armijn: i must wait a month, the we have nearly all 2 weeks an outside festival with lots of beer ;-) 15:00 < praenti> s/the/then 15:00 < praenti> th: cvstracker has deleted huebis config-files 15:01 < praenti> at the moment i must wait before i can do some package fixes 15:02 < armijn> well...weather forecast for Belgium looks a bit better 15:02 < praenti> th: why did you delete all *.desc *.pz and *.conf 15:02 < praenti> do we generate them now automically 15:02 < praenti> ? 15:02 * praenti is hearing a thunder. fuck 15:02 < th> praenti: yes 15:03 < armijn> a thunderfuck? 15:03 < praenti> lol 15:03 < armijn> what's a thunderfuck? 15:03 < praenti> you know what a thunder is? 15:03 < armijn> yeah yeah, of course 15:04 < armijn> is it when you fuck so hard that you can hear thunder? 15:04 < praenti> but there's a point and a space between. 15:04 < armijn> argh, I know... 15:04 < armijn> I was just kidding 15:04 < praenti> if you want we can do some brainstorming about thunderfuck 15:05 < armijn> or a thunderstorm about brainfuck 15:05 < th> praenti: do we have real data loss? 15:05 < th> praenti: when did that happen? 15:07 < praenti> th: you need the *.conf for the compile. but when puzzle runs the extconv.sh then this was a good idea 15:08 < praenti> if you need *.pz or *.desc for the compile i dont know. downloads are directly from the ext files and discription id ont know 15:09 < praenti> shitt. wrong word. 15:09 < praenti> s/if/whether 15:09 * praenti needs some food. concentration level too small 15:10 < holyolli> ./dcc send praenti food 15:10 < holyolli> or just go to www.bringdienst.de ;-) 15:11 < armijn> well, you just need the ext files 15:11 < armijn> but it would have been better if the ext files were removed instead 15:11 < armijn> we want to get rid of them 15:12 * praenti have some double cookies with chocolate filling found 15:12 < praenti> armijn: i want to do them same. but not in 1.6. because of that we have generate the 1.7 15:13 < armijn> we generate them from the 1.7 stuff? 15:14 < praenti> no, not generate from 1.7 stuff. we founded the 1.7 tree thats what i wanted to say 15:15 < praenti> because we get rid of the ext 15:15 < armijn> why can't we get rid of ext for 1.6? 15:15 < armijn> s/for/in/ 15:16 < praenti> armijn: thats a good question. yeah. i can think again ;-) 15:17 < armijn> I mean, we already use the .conf and .pz files, that we autogenerate 15:17 < praenti> perhaps we should kill the ext and make all with the .conf and .pz 15:17 < armijn> so, we autogenerate them once, and then get rid of the .ext files 15:17 < armijn> well, that's a start 15:20 < praenti> ok. i will try some modifications 15:25 < praenti> shitt Puzzle need ext for the download locations 15:26 < praenti> i think i must modify the Puzzle-script 15:27 < holyolli> cya 15:27 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has quit ("fnord!") 15:32 -!- anders [~guest@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has quit ("weekend looming, but defects looming greater...") 15:36 < praenti> can anybody help me with shell-programming? 15:54 < praenti> can anybody tell me whats wrong with that line: 15:54 < praenti> filename={'egrep *.ext $1'} 15:55 < praenti> $1 has for example ace.ext in it and i want to cut off the .ext 15:56 < praenti> nobody here or nobody can answer? 15:56 < armijn> I wouldn't know the answer 15:56 < armijn> I don't speak bash fluently 15:56 < rxr> hi 15:56 < praenti> i have the same problem 15:56 < praenti> where is clifford when we need him 15:57 < praenti> hi rene 15:57 < armijn> well, rxr can help you 15:57 < praenti> rxr: do you speak bash? 15:58 < praenti> mom. i seen a mistake 15:58 < rxr> praenti: to some degree ;-) 15:58 < praenti> have you read the filename thing 15:58 < rxr> I see it. 15:59 < rxr> praenti: what whould be wrong with: filename="'egrep *.ext $1'" 15:59 < praenti> can i make a "egrep *.ext $1 > $filename 15:59 < praenti> ? 15:59 < rxr> no this would pipe the output into the file with the name $filename ... 16:00 < praenti> this one above writes only in the variable and doent execute the command egrep 16:00 < rxr> as sorry you need this ` chars arround 16:01 < rxr> filename="`egrep *.ext $1`" 16:01 < praenti> ok. i'll try 16:03 -!- tsa [~tsa@rossini.marcant.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:04 < praenti> variable is empty 16:05 < rxr> wie rufst du das auf, wofuer? 16:05 < praenti> has something to do with egrep 16:05 < praenti> extconv.sh *ext 16:06 < praenti> and now i must cut the .ext away from $1 16:06 < rxr> pkg=`echo $1 | sed "s,.ext,,"` 16:06 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux () 16:07 < praenti> ok. i see 16:09 < praenti> thx 16:13 < esden> re hi all 16:15 < praenti> argh. ich bin zu blöd 16:15 < rxr> hi esden 16:15 < praenti> re esden 16:17 * -> esden getting x86-64 simulator 16:17 -!- clifford_away is now known as clifford 16:17 < clifford> hi rene 16:17 < clifford> just got your mail. 16:17 < rxr> hi clifford ;-) 16:17 < praenti> hi clifford 16:18 < rxr> clifford: and a new one got just out 16:18 < praenti> clifford: can you help me with some shell-scripting? 16:19 < rxr> clifford: was it the dependency thing you wanted to tell my yesterday evening? 16:19 < clifford> praenti: maybe 16:19 < clifford> rxr: yes. 16:20 < praenti> clifford: what do i have to write if i want to make extconv to all *.ext files in ext-config? (i'm currently at 1.5) 16:21 < clifford> rxr: I'm testing it just now: In my tree it is possible now to e.g. select gcc2 as default c-compiler and gcc3 as default c++ compiler. 16:21 < praenti> i've tried for x in ext-config; do 16:21 < praenti> ./misc/archive/extconv.sh 16:21 < praenti> done 16:21 < praenti> but this doesnt work :-( 16:22 < praenti> ähh. ... extconv.sh ext-config/*/*.ext 16:22 < praenti> natürlich 16:22 < clifford> praenti: for x in ext-config/*/*.ext ; do ./misc/archive/extconv.sh ${x%.ext} ; done 16:23 < praenti> dange 16:23 < clifford> praenti: klar was die zeile macht? 16:23 < praenti> ja schon klar. is ja richtig kompliziert 16:24 < praenti> im vergleich zu c oder perl 16:24 < esden> praenti: dass meinst du hoffe ich ironisch ... *fg* 16:24 < praenti> nicht unbedingt. da tu ich mich nicht so schwer komischerwiese 16:25 < praenti> ok. in c musst du das file-handling dann auch noch bauen. das ist dann scheiß komplex 16:25 < esden> grr where have the dumbases hidden the x68-64 simulator >_< 16:26 < rxr> esden: it is only available as rpm IIRC ... 16:26 < esden> yes I know .. and .. Is that a problem ? 16:26 < rxr> https://www.x86-64.org/downloads 16:26 < clifford> praenti: perl -e 'while (<ext-config/*/*.ext>) { s/\.ext$//; system("./misc/archive/extconv.sh $_"); }' 16:26 < esden> if I can download the rpm somewhere ... 16:26 < clifford> praenti: in c waere es ein wenig laenger .. 16:26 < esden> ahh rxr thanks 16:26 < esden> noo ... 16:26 < praenti> clifford: an das teil dachte ich da 16:27 < esden> I know this site already and I seem to be blind ... I do not find the apropriote link ... 16:28 -!- clifford [~clifford@62.46.1.158] has quit ("Client Exiting") 16:28 < rxr> esden: yes this is a vaild question ... :-( 16:29 < esden> ahh there it is 16:29 < esden> I have it ! 16:29 < esden> https://www.x86-64.org/simnow/ 16:29 -!- clifford [~clifford@62.46.0.67] has joined #rocklinux 16:29 < esden> re clifford 16:29 < clifford> hi. hab' ich was verpasst (seit '<esden> noo ...')? 16:29 < esden> hmm ... should I take redhat or suse ... 16:30 < esden> clifford: I was only searching for the rpm, containing the x86-64 simulator 16:30 < esden> and I found it 16:31 < clifford> rxr: about gcc2 vs. gcc3: Would you now recommend gcc2 or gcc3 for building c++ progs? 16:32 < praenti> btw. how would the 1.5/1.6 maintainer like the extconv.sh? do you want the parameter with ext-name or with ext-name.ext 16:32 < clifford> btw: it's not possible to use g++2 and g++3 compiled bins on the same system .. :-) 16:33 < clifford> praenti: filename of the *.ext file without the '.ext' .. 16:33 < praenti> clifford: special reason? 16:34 < clifford> praenti: easier for the script (you could add 'set ${1%.ext}' as first line so it excepts the filenames with the .ext also ..) 16:35 < rxr> gcc3 is much better - but the 3.0 series fails on some code ... gcc 3.1 should fix this. Also some packages will fail (and needs patches) to compile with the gcc 3's ANSI C++ interpretation. (Aspell, telnet, ...) So for the next weeks 2.95.3 but with gcc-3.1 (and patches or new releases) gcc-3.1 ... 16:35 < clifford> praenti: WARNING: extconv.sh is a hack and you need to adopt the files created by it in some cases.. 16:36 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 16:36 < armijn> re 16:38 < esden> The SimNow simulator requires the following: * AMD Athlon® 700-MHz or better class processor (1 GHz recommended) *384 MBytes of system memory (512 MBytes recommended) * 3.5-inch, 1.44-capacity, high-density floppy drive * CD-ROM drive * 1 GByte of free hard disk space for the simulator and devices plus 3 GBytes free space for disk file images 16:38 < praenti> clifford: th has deleted all pz, conf and desc files in ext in huebis cvs. if my idea doesnt work we must restore the files 16:38 < esden> the last part is the best I think ;-0 16:39 < esden> praenti: auutsch 16:39 < praenti> thats the problem. i dont know how much work this in a cvs is, because cvs mark them only as attic 16:48 -!- Bevin [~gbevin@adsl-34302.turboline.skynet.be] has quit ("Client Exiting") 16:50 < clifford> rxr: when gcc 3.1 is out, what would you recommend for normal c progs? 16:52 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:52 < holyolli> re 16:53 < rxr> clifford: we must test it out. Normally the optimizations should have improved much (compared with the gcc-2.95.3) and the C++ compiler ich a much closer implementation of the 1998 ANSI C++ specification. 16:54 < rxr> clifford: but I had a dist snapshot of dRock using the gcc-3.0.2 in las November and the binary size increased by 30% - which is too much I think. So we might like to validate the currentl performance and binary size ... 16:54 < clifford> rxr: an importand question is if it is safe to build the kernel and glibc with gcc 3.1 ... 16:54 < rxr> the glibc-2.2.5 is marked as compileable by gcc-3.0.x 16:55 < rxr> my kernel worked just fine (alsthough some hacker stat that they do not recommend this ...) 16:55 < rxr> clifford: I think the possibility of selecting the compiler to use is just fine. - We can also add some documentation to the options in Config 16:56 < clifford> rxr: yes - but what should be the default compiler? 16:56 < rxr> 2.95.3 16:56 < clifford> ok. 16:56 < rxr> clifford: is there a possibility to add help to the options in Config (like the kernel has?) 16:57 < clifford> yes - I want to create config.hlp files for that later. 16:57 < clifford> Currently the config options are (imo) changing to fast for writing usefull documentation. 16:58 < rxr> ;-) 16:58 < holyolli> clifford: are there any known caveats when making the package install-disks for alpha? 16:58 < holyolli> clifford: or must i pay attention to anything? 16:59 < clifford> holyolli: no. (meaning: The caveats you are running in are not known yet.. :-) 16:59 < holyolli> *g* okay... 16:59 < holyolli> the bootdisk-images are created when building the package install-disks, aren't they? 17:00 < clifford> holyolli: they are (in 1.5.12) created by the install-disks subdistribution. 17:00 < holyolli> thx 17:00 < clifford> (in 1.7 they are not build at all - in the moment :-) 17:01 < holyolli> btw. is your health status getting better? 17:03 < armijn> argh stop about compilers.... 17:03 < armijn> nothing but trouble on sparc64 17:03 -!- blindy|away is now known as blindcoder 17:03 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 17:03 < holyolli> hi blindcoder 17:05 < rxr> has anyone heared s.th. about the timeframe 2.4.19 should come out ? 17:10 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E0E321.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:10 < esden> hi martin_ 17:10 < martin_> hi all 17:10 < holyolli> hi martin_ 17:11 < holyolli> esden: moin...you didn't already made some mk-bootdisk für alpha? otherwise i'll try it now.. :) 17:12 < esden> holyolli: it seems that you have too much time ;-) 17:12 < holyolli> esden: not really..but I want to make rock-alpha working ;) 17:12 < esden> no I had no possibility to do this yet 17:12 < esden> sure do that 17:12 < holyolli> just finished build-all.. ;) 17:12 < holyolli> (but with errors :( 17:13 < esden> holyolli: my build was also with errors ... 17:13 < holyolli> btw. aboot is in huebis cvs tree and builds on my alpha without probs 17:14 < esden> holyolli: good 17:14 < holyolli> i also editied the lilo-install-script... 17:14 < holyolli> can you test it? ;-)) 17:14 < holyolli> *eg* 17:14 < holyolli> <- don't want to try the script on my fileserver... ;) 17:14 < esden> sure I will test it ... when I have some spare time ... and enough space on my alpha ... 17:15 < esden> because I will not try to compile rock over nfs 17:15 < esden> it took nearly 4 days ... that sux 17:15 < holyolli> understandable ;) 17:16 < esden> but ... I hopefully have enogh diskspace at least after the linuxtag 17:16 < esden> cuz ripclaw will give me "my" compaq disks back 17:16 < holyolli> *g* 17:17 < esden> then I can do more for alpha 17:17 < jonath[away]> hi 17:17 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 17:17 -!- jonath[away] is now known as jonath[an] 17:17 < Mike1> hi all 17:17 < holyolli> hi Mike1 17:18 < Mike1> como estas holyolli 17:18 < jonath[an]> hello Miguel 17:18 < Mike1> jonath[an] :) 17:18 < holyolli> Mike1: muy bien... 17:18 < holyolli> i usted? 17:19 < Mike1> holyolli muy bien tambien gracias 17:22 < esden> hi Mike1 17:23 < armijn> heh 17:24 < armijn> grmbl... 17:24 < armijn> everyone should use my sparc64 patches. 17:24 * clifford released snapshot 1.7.0-DEV-200204261654. 17:25 < armijn> clifford releases snapshots faster than that people can build... 17:25 < holyolli> hehe 17:26 < esden> clifford: you are too fast for us ;-) *fg* 17:26 < armijn> clifford has got a sex machine! 17:27 < jonath[an]> LOL 17:27 * rxr syncing the 1.7-cliff tree ;-) 17:28 < armijn> and he definitely likes the "release early, release often" paradigm 17:28 < armijn> especially the "often" part 17:29 < armijn> maybe he just misread it as: "release often, release often" 17:29 < holyolli> *lol* 17:30 -!- Netsplit carter.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: clifford, Mike1, SMP 17:30 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Mike1, clifford, SMP 17:30 < esden> netsplit yea! >_< 17:30 < armijn> yeah. 17:30 < armijn> I love that 17:30 < rxr> clifford: you have not refetched the sf tree? :-( 17:32 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E0E321.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 17:34 < Mike1> damn 17:34 * clifford is refetching sourceforge .. 17:36 < clifford> what happens if I make a 'cvs add' for a file which is already in the cvs tree? 17:36 < rxr> clifford: ? why? 17:37 < blindcoder> nothing AFAIK 17:37 < clifford> rxr: *.cache files. 17:37 < blindcoder> an error message saying that the file is already in the cvs tree 17:38 < clifford> rxr: a new package in sf doesn't have a *.cache file. When i do a reference build, I have to add those files before commiting .. 17:38 < esden> ok ... 17:38 * -> esden reordering todo ... 17:38 < rxr> rene@localnet:~/develop/rock/package/package/sourceforge/zylyx > cvs add zylyx.cache 17:38 < rxr> rrebe@cvs.rock-package.sourceforge.net's password: 17:38 < clifford> blindcoder: so i can easily make an 'cvs add */*.cache ; cvs commit */*.cache' .. 17:38 < rxr> cvs server: zylyx.cache already exists, with version number 1.2 17:38 < rxr> clifford: seems so (just test) 17:38 < jonath[an]> what happen Mike1 ? 17:38 < rxr> s/test/tested/ 17:39 < blindcoder> clifford> sure 17:39 < clifford> blindcoder: good. :-) 17:40 * rxr looking at the outptut of Check-Deps 17:41 < clifford> rxr: cewl - he? 17:41 < rxr> you become a awk freak? ;-) 17:41 < rxr> clifford: yes quite kool ;-) 17:42 < rxr> This one is strange: [3] base/file alsa audiofile esound gconf gdk-pixbuf gimp glib g 17:42 < rxr> nome-libs gnomemm gpgme gtk+ gtk+extra gtkmm guile imlib intltool lesstif libgla 17:42 < rxr> de libole2 librep librsvg libsigc++ libxml2 oaf ogg-vorbis orbit pkgconfig xine 17:42 < armijn> cvs add? that adds a file to the repository 17:42 < armijn> but you have to run a cvs commit for it to have effect 17:43 < armijn> but if a file already exists, that doesn't make a difference 17:43 < armijn> ok, I'm off... 17:43 < armijn> it's weekend :)) 17:44 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has quit ("ircII EPIC4-1.0.1 -- Are we there yet?") 17:44 < clifford> rxr: I've always been an awk freak... :-) 17:44 < rxr> clifford: this one is trange too (does the second collom are really the packages the package depends on?): [3] base/pspell alsa audiofile esound gconf gdk-pixbuf gimp glib g 17:44 < rxr> nome-libs gnomemm gtk+ gtk+extra gtkmm guile imlib intltool lesstif libglade lib 17:44 < rxr> ole2 librep librsvg libsigc++ libxml2 oaf ogg-vorbis orbit pkgconfig xine 17:45 < clifford> rxr: some pkgs depend on all (or almost all) other packages. 17:45 < clifford> rxr: that's because they do something like e.g. 'grep foobar /usr/bin/*'. 17:45 < clifford> i need to fix thos packages .. 17:45 < rxr> clifford: oh - yes this really sucks .... 17:46 < esden> clifford: how do you make in bash shellscript a fallthrough in a loop ? 17:46 < clifford> esden: fallthrough? what's that? 17:47 < esden> ja dass er den vorgong abbricht mitten drinnen bevor die bedingung erfuellt wurde 17:47 < blindcoder> esden> what i meant whas something like that: 17:47 < esden> sorry for LANG=de 17:47 < blindcoder> bed1) 17:47 < blindcoder> bed2) 17:47 < Mike1> see you later guys 17:47 < clifford> rxr: stuff like that is the reason why I don't like to auto-create the build-order from the dependencies .. 17:47 < blindcoder> what to do 17:47 < blindcoder> ;; 17:47 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit ("BitchX: TASTES GREAT! LESS FILLING! TASTES GREAT! LESS FILLING!") 17:47 < clifford> esden: break (wie in C - siehe bash manpage) 17:48 < esden> ja ... adnke 17:48 < esden> und sorry ... 17:49 < clifford> sorry wofuer? 17:49 < esden> wegen so ner dummen frage ;-) 17:49 < clifford> oh - kein problem .. :-) 17:50 < esden> :-) 17:51 * -> esden wants A beer! 17:51 < blindcoder> x) 17:51 < blindcoder> o) 17:51 < blindcoder> do_some_stupix_stuff 17:51 < esden> b33r 17:51 * rxr shortly away 17:52 -!- rxr is now known as rxr_away 17:52 < holyolli> btw. is anybody at dreamhack? 17:52 < blindcoder> *Argh* i shouldn't have drunk 2 Sake today 17:52 < esden> megatokyo !!! w00t 17:53 < blindcoder> PH34R MI L33T N3KK1D SK1LLZ! 17:53 < esden> Rooofl 17:53 < esden> *abkack* 17:53 < holyolli> wtf? 17:53 < blindcoder> Anyone here speak L33T? 17:54 < esden> blindcoder: stop it 17:54 < esden> otherwise others will hate us ;-) 17:54 < blindcoder> sure... I overdid it again... 17:59 < esden> john has not cracked my passwords after 4 days .. is that good ? 17:59 < esden> I hope so 18:00 -!- rxr_away is now known as rxr 18:00 < esden> re rxr 18:00 < jonath[an]> excuse me... how can i enabled rlogin in rock?, klogind? 18:00 < jonath[an]> hi rene 18:00 < rxr> clifford: btw. have you found anything that way really annoying when you installed dRock-1.4.1 ? ;-) 18:01 < jonath[an]> btw, dRock 1.4.2 clambomber package is incomplete 18:02 < rxr> jonath[an]: there is no 1.4.2 release yet ;-) but clanbomber got removed because the installation required a running X server and I do not want to fix this complete wroken make system ... 18:02 < rxr> s/wroken/broken ... 18:03 < rxr> jonath[an]: you can try the 1.6.0-rc1 ;-) 18:03 < rxr> (or the rc2 which should come out next week ;-) 18:03 < jonath[an]> ok 18:03 < esden> I love my stupidity !!! 18:03 < esden> argl 18:03 < jonath[an]> where are the isos? 18:04 < jonath[an]> esden: we talked about stupify once 18:04 < esden> jonath[an]: yes I know ... 18:04 < jonath[an]> hehe 18:04 < jonath[an]> so, what's the prob now? 18:04 < esden> but my behaviour at the pc is gatting more and more automatic ... 18:05 < jonath[an]> hehe, ok 18:05 < clifford> rxr: (1) the install shell looks very ugly when running on a b/w screen 18:05 < esden> and I do things I think ... and not what I really want ... 18:06 < jonath[an]> sure, i understand 18:06 < clifford> rxr: (2) the way to install the data from cd 2 is not very clear (sure - I figured out how it works .. :-) 18:06 < jonath[an]> btw, is the install_bin now implemented to be run in a root partition? 18:06 < clifford> well - thats all I've found. 18:07 < jonath[an]> last time i just could run it from cd 18:07 < rxr> clifford: ;-) Ok - Thanks! 18:07 < rxr> clifford: (1) the install_menu got never tested on a b&w display :-( 18:07 < clifford> rxr: just run in in a gnome terminal .. :-) 18:09 < rxr> clifford: (2) this way is mentioned on the statup-help, the question about running the setup scripts and in the online dRock install-instruction ;-) - We can design s.th. more useable for 1.7 ;-) 18:10 < jonath[an]> re: btw, is the install_bin now implemented to be run in a root partition? 18:10 < rxr> oh - sorry I forgot to test and correct this ... 18:11 < jonath[an]> dunt worry 18:11 < clifford> rxr: yes - but this help message is not very clear (let's better say: it's not as fool-proof as the rest of your menu-based install shell :-) 18:11 < rxr> jonath[an]: the URL is: https://drocklinux.dyndns.org/ftp/drock/unstable/1.6.0-rc1/ 18:11 < jonath[an]> thnx a lot rene 18:11 < rxr> clifford: hehe 18:15 < rxr> but now I'm away ... 18:15 -!- rxr is now known as rxr_away 18:16 -!- Netsplit over, joins: clifford 18:20 -!- jonath[an] [~demian@208.165.55.137] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 18:20 -!- jonath[an] [~demian@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 18:21 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has quit ("Connection reset by telekom") 18:25 -!- jonath[an] is now known as jonath[away] 18:36 -!- clifford is now known as clifford_away 18:43 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:43 < snyke> hi all 18:43 < snyke> !!! 18:44 < praenti> esden: do you want a beer then come to me. 18:44 < blindcoder> esden> make sure to stop by and pick me up first ;) 18:45 < snyke> hehe 18:45 < snyke> ah 18:46 < snyke> how can I stop BitchX try connecting when I AM connected? 18:50 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy|eat 18:54 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("changing servers") 18:55 < esden> hmm 18:55 < esden> re hi all 18:57 < esden> I think I should start nickgrabbing so I can rename myself to different life situation nicks ... : esden|sleep esden|eat esden|uni esden|busy esden|on_the_way_to_hell ;-) 18:57 < esden> aso 18:57 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:57 < esden> as]nd so on 18:57 < snyke> man 18:57 < praenti> arghh. i hate the heat sink in my laptop. before i opened the laptop it makes a terrible noise and now it doesnt work anymore 18:57 < esden> re snycki 18:57 < snyke> esden: come and fetch my/your COMPAQ Proliant 18:57 < esden> snyke: ??? 18:57 < snyke> it's weekend. 18:57 < esden> sure ... 18:58 < esden> but not yet 18:58 < snyke> komm und hol den proliant ab! 18:58 < snyke> :) 18:58 < snyke> hm wann? 18:58 < praenti> esden: if there are buffered sdram in it. i have 256mb ram to test 18:58 < esden> ich habe mommenton keinen stoff den idch drauf testen kuennte 18:58 < snyke> hrm 18:58 < snyke> dann hald nich :P 18:59 < esden> es hat sich herrausgestellt dass ich letzte woche scheisse gebaut habe und dass ich dass patchen von dem kernel von vorne machen muss 18:59 < esden> deshalb dauert es noch eine weile 18:59 < esden> ich werde dir sagen wann ich die kiste brauche ... wenn ich bis dahin keine von lrz bekommen habe ... 18:59 < snyke> k 19:00 < esden> dem der tuep da meint dass ich fast sofort eine haben kann wenn ich will 19:00 -!- rxr_away is now known as rxr 19:00 < rxr> re 19:00 < esden> ausserdem will der mir buecher kaufen 19:00 < esden> re rxr 19:00 < esden> ich werde dass ausnutzen 19:00 < esden> und mir buecher zu dem kernel internas zulegen 19:00 < esden> wenn der tuep zahlt ist es geil ... 19:01 < esden> ich fange an lrz zu muegen ;-) 19:01 < esden> die jeungs sind echt gut drauf 19:01 < esden> und so spendabel dass ist dass beste ;-) 19:01 < snyke> hehe 19:01 < rxr> was ist eurer lrz ??? 19:02 < esden> lrz=Leibnitz Rechen Zentrum (https://www.lrz.de/) 19:02 < esden> s/Leibnitz/Leibniz/ 19:02 < rxr> and they pay book and give hardware away? I would not get anythung from our "Rechen Zentrum" ... 19:03 < esden> rxr: I can probobly have all I want from them ... ;-) 19:03 < rxr> esden: why= 19:03 < rxr> s/=/?/ 19:03 -!- blindy|eat is now known as blindcoder 19:04 < esden> do net really know. I am only making a kernel patch usable that they need badly 19:04 < rxr> which patch? 19:04 < esden> no not badly ... but the guy says that it is nice to have ... 19:05 < rxr> esden: what? 19:05 < esden> a process policy patch 19:06 < esden> it is giving you the posibility to bind processes to processor groups 19:06 < esden> this is only relevant on machines cpu>4 19:07 < esden> this patch is called pset corroctly 19:07 < esden> ... 19:08 < esden> processor set patch 19:08 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:08 < netcrow> hi 19:08 < blindcoder> sers 19:08 < esden> this works somehow like partitioning the cpu resources 19:08 < esden> hi netcrow 19:08 < rxr> esden: yes - I know this issue ... 19:09 < netcrow> my pc is death... 19:09 < blindcoder> bury it @netcrow 19:09 < praenti> esden: do you still want a beer? 19:10 * praenti must go eating 19:10 < esden> rxr: to make it working is not really difficult till now ... but it can change ... ;-) 19:10 < esden> praenti: sure I want 19:10 < esden> but I have no car 19:10 < praenti> esden: und ich hab wenig sprit 19:10 < esden> I can come with my bike 19:10 < netcrow> i have a cat but no driving license ;-) 19:10 < esden> but then I can not take blindcoder with me 19:11 < blindcoder> esden> sop it 19:11 < blindcoder> I'll come round in about 20 minutes 19:11 < blindcoder> just let me finish with eating and changing 19:11 < esden> blindcoder: ok ... so I wait for you 19:11 < netcrow> <english>hm, geht ihr biertrinken?</english> 19:12 < blindcoder> netcrow : I think you misplaced the "/" :) 19:12 < esden> yes we are going for a b33r to praenti ;-) 19:12 < praenti> esden: wart noch. ich muss er st essen. so ab 20 uhr hab i zeit 19:12 < netcrow> hm, kann mich wer abholen? *g* 19:12 < esden> ahh ok ... 19:12 < blindcoder> praenti hat'll be perfectly fine cause esden on't be able to get away from ay for at lest 30 minutesafter I entered his room ;) 19:13 < blindcoder> I can't type anymore >_< 19:13 < esden> blindcoder: >_< 19:13 < blindcoder> Maybe this Keyboard is broken 19:13 < netcrow> so, ich geh wieder.. 19:13 < blindcoder> baibai 19:13 < esden> blindcoder: type hiragana ... or how it is being spelled 19:13 < netcrow> es wartet ne halbe flasche rotwein ;-) 19:13 < netcrow> bye 19:13 < esden> cu netcrow 19:13 < blindcoder> Hiragana is right 19:14 < esden> ahh I am good ;-) 19:14 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("leaving") 19:14 < blindcoder> sometimmes... 19:14 < blindcoder> but that's this more often than me ;) 19:14 < esden> .oO(selbstbeweireucherung) 19:14 < blindcoder> okay, I'll go changing (just wearing boxers rightnow) 19:14 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy|nothere 19:17 * praenti is eatinbg 19:20 * -> esden waiting for blindy 19:32 < esden> urgh I have to update the vim syntax file ... there were some changes ... 19:36 -!- jonath[away] is now known as jonath[an] 19:36 < jonath[an]> yo guys! 19:37 < jonath[an]> wie geht es dir ? 19:38 < huebi> re moep hi! 19:39 < huebi> esden: I just got a new t-shirt from england: On the front is writen: Perfect Guinness draught and onthe back 19:39 < huebi> ; 19:40 < huebi> Trust me, I'm a perfectionist 19:40 * huebi repairs the cvs now 19:43 < huebi> I won't use these again such a "with me you can do everything in one program" - Applications like cvstrac 19:48 < SMP> :>> 19:48 < huebi> hi SMP 19:55 < rxr> esden: why did you got a Guinnes s t-shirt form england? 19:57 < huebi> rxr: It's me, ;) 19:59 < huebi> rxr: The boyfriend of my sister in law comes from London. We met 2h ago And he is like esden, ripclaw and me a big Guinness fan. 20:00 < huebi> hehe Schwiegerschwester = sister in law *LOL* 20:21 -!- sts- [~toor@pD951E5D4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:22 < praenti> huebi: did you read my mail? 20:22 < huebi> praenti: no 20:22 < praenti> I've sent you a patch for the Puzzle script 20:22 < huebi> praenti: What did you write? 20:24 < praenti> the puzzle now generates the *.pz *.conf and *.desc in ext-config automatically 20:24 < praenti> read the last four lines or the patch itself 20:25 < huebi> you I do so later this night. 20:26 < rxr> huebi: ah sorry - yes it is you ;-)! I'm a Guinness fan , too - I only wondered why the t-shirt comes out of england ... ;) 20:26 < huebi> rxr: :-))) 20:27 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082B4DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:27 < tsa> re 20:27 < huebi> hi tsa 20:28 < tsa> hi huebi 20:30 < tsa> hm....irgendwer mag mich wohl nicht. 20:30 < tsa> From: Fischek <fischek@web.de> 20:30 < tsa> Subject: fick dich du arsch 20:30 < tsa> X-Sender: 520074061173-0001@t-dialin.net 20:30 < tsa> interessant.. 20:34 < rxr> esden: I can not access: 20:34 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.org/people/esden/irclog/rocklinux-2002-04-19 20:35 < rxr> is there s.th. wrong with the permissions? 20:38 < huebi> tsa: Den solltest Du eigendlich recht einfach kriegen... 20:39 < tsa> huebi: hat leider keine homepage bei t-online hinterlegt, sonst haette ich in der .impressum.html nachsehen koennen 20:39 < tsa> naja, umd abuse@t-ipnet.de ist noch nie sonderlich toll gewesend. 20:40 < tsa> -d 20:40 < huebi> tsa: Well then you should use a cron job on a chinese mail relay host to fill up his mailboxes. 20:40 < esden> rxr I have to look at it when I am back home 20:41 < tsa> huebi: hehe. 20:41 < tsa> huebi: i guess that's not worth it. 20:42 < SMP> das ist ein Fall fuer 'Delete' und nicht abuse@ .. 20:42 < tsa> i'll probably send a $STD_ABUSE_MAIL to the various contacts and forget about it. 20:42 < huebi> tsa: but it's worth to find out how it works 20:44 < tsa> huebi: hm....shouldn't be too difficult. "DSmailrelay.in.china.cn" in sendmail.cf should do the job.. 20:44 * SMP never gets hate-mail or Outlook worms 20:44 < rxr> hm the KDE-3.0 konqui is rather instable - it crashes 2-4 times a day here. The 2.2.x one was rock solid :-/ 20:44 < SMP> thank god I'm so unimportant :> 20:44 < tsa> hehehe. 20:44 < tsa> SMP: if you feel alone, i can send you some ;-) 20:45 * huebi is dreaming about a hidden root account on a 2 GBit in wild wild china 20:45 < huebi> +line 20:45 < tsa> Subject: The perfect investement tool has arrived 20:45 < huebi> tsa cash money? 20:46 < tsa> huebi: no - investments somewhere in africa. 20:47 < SMP> huebi: bandwidth attacks don't work anymore - for the most part 20:48 < huebi> hmmm 20:48 < jonath[an]> re 20:50 < tsa> hi jonath[an] 20:53 < huebi> I have to find out how the tape buffer works. I can't get the tape streaming. 20:55 < SMP> huebi and his problems ... ;> 21:02 < praenti> huebi: what do you want in china 21:03 < huebi> praenti: I want to take over the world leadership of the internet or something funny like that ;-))) 21:04 < huebi> M$ without internet. Their spyware won't work anymore 21:05 < huebi> But now I'm off. Having a Guinness. Cu later 21:06 < hackbard> have fun huebi! 21:06 < hackbard> with both, the beer and the world leadership ;) 21:22 < tsa> cu huebi, have fun. 21:26 * snyke reboot => Security-Update 21:26 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("[BX] Tony the Tiger uses BitchX. Its Grrrrrrrrreat!") 21:27 < rxr> cool Frentzen is on position two (!!!) in the first free practice. Although it doesn't mean too much it is very great! ;-)) 21:28 < SMP> 'too much' is greatly overrated ;> 21:30 < jonath[an]> how long time has passed since Mike1 left channel? 21:30 < rxr> SMP: especially noticing that the first 11 are in 9/10 second ... 21:30 < rxr> SMP: but anyway Frentzen is cool ;-) 21:30 < SMP> 17:49| (!) Mike1 ~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr has quit 21:39 -!- h_wschlic [~wschlich@p50815C16.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:40 -!- term_aweh [~pm@beaufort.wyzant.de] has quit ("later") 21:42 -!- h_wschlic [~wschlich@pD9E3EF08.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:52 < th> oehm... ypserv beim 1.4er rock? 21:53 < tsa> was ist damit? 21:53 < th> wo gibts den? 21:53 < th> welches paket? 21:53 < th> das is doch nicht nur ypbind 21:54 < th> ypbind-mt is nur ypbind, yptools hat auch keinen server 21:54 < th> ich bin verwirrt 21:54 < tsa> [tsa@azathoth /usr/src/rock-src-1.4.0]$ find . -name yp* 21:54 < tsa> ./ext-config/yp-tools.ext 21:54 < tsa> ./ext-config/ypbind-mt.ext 21:54 < th> meine nis-server laufen bisher alle auf solaris 21:54 < tsa> hehe. 21:54 < th> die beiden kenn ich aber in keinem is ypserv drin 21:54 < tsa> hm....noe, scheint aber sonst nix anderes da zu sein.. 21:54 < th> vllt brauch ich das ypserv binary ja auch niht 21:55 < th> gabs da ne rock nis-howto? 21:55 < tsa> jupp 21:56 < tsa> soll ich es dir irgendwo hinschicken? 21:56 < tsa> ( Documentation/Archive/NIS-HOWTO) 21:57 < tsa> "Setting up a YP/NIS client under Rock Linux Mini-HOWTO" 21:57 < tsa> geht aber nur um aufsetzen von clients... 21:57 < tsa> hm.... 21:59 < th> habs auch heir 21:59 < th> achso 21:59 < th> keine info ueber server? 21:59 < th> clients hab ich genug 21:59 < th> kein nis-server support bei rock ist natuerlich sehr schwach 22:00 < tsa> hm...jupp. 22:00 < th> leider keine zeit das jetzt rock-like zu machen. 22:00 < th> hier is ein uralt sgi als nis-server ausgestiegen und braucht nen linux eratz 22:01 < th> s,ein,eine, 22:03 < th> ypserv gibts jedenfalls bei kernel.org 22:04 < tsa> hm....was fuer ne sgi denn? 22:04 < th> iris 22:04 < th> lief noch ein 6.2 drauf ;) 22:04 < th> iris indigo 22:05 < tsa> uh.... 22:05 < th> 477 tage uptime gehabt 22:05 < th> und musste nur den standord wechseln 22:05 < th> schade um die uptime 22:05 * SMP hat's irgendwie in zwei Jahren nicht geschafft, mal das 6.5 auf der I2 zu installieren 22:09 < tsa> 10:10pm up 479 days, 43 min, 1 user, load average: 0.29, 0.25, 0.19 22:09 < tsa> ha...2 tage mehr :-P 22:10 < tsa> dafuer allerdings auch x86.. p2-350. 22:11 < tsa> 2.2.16-22 #1 22:14 < SMP> 10:02pm up 100 days, 11:21h, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 22:15 < SMP> + 497d wegen wraparound *g* 22:16 < tsa> hehe...nett 22:16 < tsa> uname -r? 22:16 < SMP> 2.0.38 22:16 < tsa> hehe 22:16 < SMP> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1549 Sep 6 2000 boot.msg 22:16 < SMP> hmmja 22:22 * SMP 's Indigo2 hat irgendwie nur 206d 22:22 < SMP> tsa: btw.: 22:22 < SMP> bogomips : 24.93 22:23 < th> was sind pwdutils? 22:25 < tsa> th: hm....keine ahnung. ist hier zumindest nicht installiert. 22:26 < th> gibts bei kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/net/NIS/ 22:26 < th> pwd wie password vielleicht 22:26 < tsa> SMP: hm.... 22:26 < th> sowas wie yppasswd 22:26 < tsa> [tsa@azathoth ~]$ grep bogo /proc/cpuinfo 22:26 < tsa> bogomips : 1500.77 22:26 < tsa> bogomips : 1500.77 22:26 < th> sowas wie yppasswdd 22:26 < tsa> ah. 22:27 < SMP> <0>stefanp@salem[~](521)$ grep bogo /proc/cpuinfo 22:27 < SMP> bogomips : 1589.24 22:27 < SMP> bogomips : 1592.52 22:27 < SMP> ;P 22:28 < tsa> hehe 22:28 < tsa> p3-800? 22:28 < SMP> ja. hmm 22:28 < SMP> da ist ja noch der dual-1GHz .. 22:28 < tsa> 2x p3-750 hier.. 22:29 < SMP> <0>stefanp@beans[~](501)$ grep bogo /proc/cpuinfo 22:29 < SMP> bogomips : 1985.74 22:29 < SMP> bogomips : 1992.29 22:29 < SMP> hrhr ;P 22:29 < SMP> whoah 22:29 < tsa> auch nett.. 22:29 < SMP> bully:~# grep bogo /proc/cpuinfo 22:29 < SMP> bogomips : 2994.99 22:30 < tsa> p4? 22:30 < SMP> jo, irgendwie 22:30 < tsa> hm...wievielmhz? 22:30 < SMP> model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1500MHz 22:30 < SMP> cpu MHz : 1500.068 22:35 < rxr> to also contribute to this bogoimps posting: 22:35 < rxr> bogomips : 2916.35 22:45 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:46 < snyke> esden??? 22:51 -!- Mike1 [mike@196.40.44.36] has joined #rocklinux 22:51 < Mike1> re 22:52 < praenti> snyke: is on the way home 22:52 < praenti> amd I#m sleeping 22:52 -!- praenti is now known as praenti_away 22:53 -!- Mike1 [mike@196.40.44.36] has quit (Client Quit) 22:53 < esden> hi all 22:53 < snyke> ESDEN 22:54 < esden> ja snyke ? 22:54 -!- snyke is now known as Kawaii 22:54 < Kawaii> HI ESDI 22:54 < Kawaii> *bussi* 22:54 -!- Kawaii is now known as snyke 22:54 < snyke> sollt ich ausrichten 22:54 < tsa> rotfl 22:54 * snyke foniert mit alexa ^^ 22:54 < tsa> hehe...ach sooo... 22:55 < esden> lol ich wuerde mich ziemlich wundern wenn sie hier waehre ... 22:55 < esden> dass waehre die 2'te frau die ich in diesem channel sehen wuerde .. 22:55 < tsa> hm? wer denn noch? 22:55 < esden> die frau vom huebi 22:56 < tsa> hm..bisher noch nicht gesichtet.. 22:56 < esden> tja ich bin auch irgendwie bissel viel hier in letzter zeit gewesen ;-) 23:01 * -> esden reading 1.7 diffs ... 23:02 < snyke> esden: *fg* 23:02 < snyke> :)) 23:03 < esden> new desc.vim avalable : https://www.rocklinux.org/people/esden/vim/desc.vim 23:03 < snyke> :) 23:05 * -> esden has to patch misc/archive/burn-check-cd.sh for difforent cdrw speeds 23:05 < snyke> hm? 23:09 -!- kawaii [~kawaii@pD9502A77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:09 < snyke> hui 23:09 < kawaii> hui XD 23:09 < snyke> :) 23:09 < kawaii> cooooL! 23:09 < tsa> hm... 23:09 < snyke> :) 23:09 < snyke> :)) 23:09 < kawaii> ^^ 23:10 -!- SMP [stefanp@world.WRonline.de] has quit ("*fapp*") 23:10 < esden> kawaii: ??? 23:10 < kawaii> esden??? 23:10 < esden> hi ! 23:10 < kawaii> wie war das mit du wuerdest dich wundern wenn ich hier waere XD 23:10 < snyke> :) 23:10 < kawaii> *knuddelwuddel* @esden ^^ 23:11 < esden> du bist dass zweite weibliche wesen in diesem channel ! 23:11 < snyke> hihi 23:11 < kawaii> hihi 23:11 < esden> *reknuddel* 23:11 < kawaii> *freu* 23:11 * tsa geht in Deckung.. 23:11 < snyke> esden: nicht vom host taeuschen lassen :) 23:11 < kawaii> ich vermiss dich esden :_: (auch wenn das jetz doof klingen mag...) 23:12 < kawaii> hmm.. 23:13 < esden> uii ... man sieht sich bestimmt wieder im bitz! 23:13 < kawaii> wie sich das anhoert :_: @esden 23:13 < esden> ich habe langsam dass gefuehl dass bchet hier rueberzieht ... kuennt nicht mehr ohne mich leben? 23:13 < snyke> *g* 23:13 < snyke> esden: NEIN 23:13 < snyke> also ich zumindest nich :) 23:14 < snyke> *knuddel* 23:14 < kawaii> ich brauch dich eben esden :_: 23:14 < esden> ich komme in den bchat ... ich glaube da passt dass gespraech besser rein 23:14 < snyke> ausserdem kawaii && ich sind ja nicht der ganze bchat :) 23:14 -!- kawaii [~kawaii@pD9502A77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("BitchX: the OTHER white meat") 23:27 -!- SMP [stefanp@world.WRonline.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:28 < SMP> <- stupid 23:28 < tsa> you don't want any comments, do you? ;-) 23:28 < esden> SMP: why ? 23:28 < esden> SMP: I leave the asking ... 23:29 < SMP> <- stupid test 23:29 < SMP> aha 23:29 < SMP> /alias quit say <- stupid 23:29 < SMP> much better *g* 23:34 -!- SMP [stefanp@world.WRonline.de] has quit ("argl") 23:34 < esden> lool 23:34 < esden> SMP macht glaube ich was falsch ... 23:37 < tsa> jupp, sieht ganz danach aus.. 23:38 -!- SMP [stefanp@world.WRonline.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:39 < esden> re SMP 23:39 < tsa> re SMP 23:39 < SMP> yeah 23:39 < tsa> next try? ;) 23:39 < SMP> Irssi 0.8.4 (20020313) - https://irssi.org 23:39 < SMP> success! ;> 23:40 < SMP> wow, the new version is great 23:40 < esden> hmm this is the same version I have ... 23:41 < SMP> have you used 0.7.any before? 23:41 < esden> no ... i started with bitchx ... and this in not a long time ago 23:41 < SMP> awesome thing. /upgrade is unbelievable 23:42 < esden> and I swithed to irssi month ago 23:42 < SMP> lets you change to a new irssi binary on the fly. stays connected etc. 23:43 < esden> SMP: that is really a cool feaure ... like the init reload 23:43 < SMP> like what? 23:44 < esden> you can reload the init on the fly 23:44 < esden> at least under linux 23:44 < tsa> init u? 23:45 < SMP> I see 23:45 < esden> don't know ... debian is doing this .. when you do apt-get dist-upgrade ... 23:46 < esden> I have to read theis scripts to find out how they do this 23:46 < SMP> too bad the init processes I might want to re-exec are too old and don't support it :} 23:48 < esden> will see 23:48 < esden> should read the changelogs 23:52 -!- inode [~inode@cs666986-234.satx.rr.com] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 23:58 < esden> /sbin/telinit U 23:59 < esden> is re-executing the init 23:59 < tsa> which will do the same as "init u" .. --- Log closed Sat Apr 27 00:00:37 2002