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--- Log opened Wed Jun 12 00:00:42 2002 --- Day changed Wed Jun 12 2002 00:00 -!- uninvited [uninvited@pD9590B99.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Leaving towards earth !") 00:07 < rxr> ROCK-1.7 (fixed) build with gcc3 only started ... 00:12 < tsa> rxr: what do you think about changing the .conf files to sendmail.cf syntax? 00:12 < tsa> *G* ;) 00:17 < rxr> huh? our .conf files ? 00:17 < tsa> hehe...just kidding ;) 00:18 < rxr> tsa: I HOPE SO ... 00:18 < rxr> ! 00:18 < tsa> hehehe 00:18 < rxr> so more 1.7 fixes 00:19 < rxr> AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH! 00:19 < tsa> hm? 00:20 < rxr> shit src,* fuck 00:20 < rxr> just deleted half of my /proc 00:20 * rxr rebooting ... 00:26 < rxr> hm the new gcc options also suck ... 00:31 < Freak> rxr: https://linuid.dhis.org/~sraible/gallery/ -- but I'll make it a subdomain to linuxforce.de.. just some minutes. 00:32 < rxr> oh look good 00:33 < rxr> maybe you should rotate the pics - so that all have the correct orientation ... 00:34 < Freak> yup 00:37 < rxr> patch to cliff out ... 00:37 < rxr> my fixed 1.7 tree seems to build now - 0-glibc ... 00:40 < rxr> ok /me takes sleep now - cu later 00:41 < Freak> n8 00:43 < lizard> g'nite rxr 00:45 < tsa> cu rxr 01:14 < tsa> n8 01:14 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082B3C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 01:16 < hackbard> still anybody awake? 01:17 < lizard> hi hackbard 01:18 < hackbard> hi lizard 01:18 < hackbard> did you try building 1.7 the last days? 01:19 < lizard> nope, but i'm up to.. 01:20 < lizard> have an i686 build of 1.5.15 for athlon running 01:20 < lizard> now reliable is 1.7 now ? 01:21 < lizard> how 01:23 < lizard> hm so spaet, keiner da. sprechen mer deutsch 01:24 < lizard> hackbard: fuer welche arch machst du 1.7 ? 01:24 < hackbard> hehe, okay :) 01:24 < hackbard> pentium3 01:24 < lizard> ich versuchs auch demnaechst 01:24 < lizard> also jetzt :) 01:24 < hackbard> ich hatte gerade ein komisches prob, aber nach download von eiem neuem tarball wars weg 01:24 < hackbard> ja, also durchbauen wird es nicht 01:24 < lizard> welches packet? 01:24 < lizard> haste -mirror verwendet? 01:24 < hackbard> und jetzt kann man es am repository namen ausmachen , hrhr :) 01:25 < hackbard> jo, -mirror none :) 01:25 < hackbard> hmm, kA - bei meinem letzten build war es ghostscript 01:26 < lizard> ich schaus mir gleich mal an 01:27 < hackbard> komisch, dei umstellung auf rene und clifford ist noch garnicht vollzogen ... 01:27 < lizard> welche umstellung? 01:28 < hackbard> extra1 -> rene , extra2 -> clifford 01:28 < lizard> aha 01:28 < hackbard> ich sehe gerade das snap ist ja auch noch vom 06.06 - das war ja vorm lxtag :) 01:29 < lizard> werden die extra packages in 1.7 eigentlich auch so (schlampig) gepflegt wie sonst? *g 01:29 * lizard laedt grad 11.06 snap 01:29 < hackbard> ah, mach nen ./scripts/Update-Src -all 01:29 < hackbard> jo ? 01:29 < hackbard> hmm .... 01:29 < lizard> yo 01:29 < hackbard> bin ich denn bloed 01:30 < lizard> hehe 01:30 < hackbard> https://www.rocklinux.de/snapshots/ <- ? 01:30 < lizard> https://www.rocklinux.org/snapshots/rock-src-1.7.0-DEV-200206111410.tar.bz2 01:31 < hackbard> dann hinkt .de hinterher .. strange 01:31 < hackbard> okay, aber das Update-Src sollte alles gemacht haben 01:31 < hackbard> anyways ich hols nochmal .. 01:31 < lizard> macht nix, morgen is eh wieder ein neues raus :9 01:32 < lizard> (nehm ich mal an) 01:32 < hackbard> jo, trotzdem .. 01:32 < hackbard> irgendwas stimmte nicht bei meinem ./scripts/Config .. 01:32 < hackbard> ,al sehen .. 01:33 < hackbard> s/,/m/ 01:37 -!- d3mian [~death@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 01:38 < lizard> hi d3mian 01:38 < hackbard> hi d3mian 01:38 < hackbard> ;) 01:38 < d3mian> hi guys 01:38 < lizard> ~death@* ? 01:42 < lizard> hmm architecture/intel is now known as architecture/ia32 @ hackbard 01:44 < hackbard> lizard: yep, but ./scripts/Config is strange! 01:45 < hackbard> go select it again, and there will be intel again 01:45 < hackbard> also you cant specify default compilers anymore .. its just white space there now :( 01:45 < hackbard> lets see 01:46 < lizard> hum 01:49 < hackbard> well in that case i wont start a build today .. 01:49 < hackbard> do you have the same problmes ? 01:49 < d3mian> ermm, 1.5.13 more stable than 1.4.0? 01:49 < hackbard> pretty sure 01:49 < d3mian> s/13/15 01:51 < lizard> strange, my bash doesnt want to run scripts on my reiserfs partition 01:54 < lizard> localhost:/mnt/big_disc/rock-src-1.7.0-DEV-200206111410# ./scripts/Config 01:54 < lizard> bash: ./scripts/Config: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: Keine Berechtigung 01:54 < lizard> hm 01:54 < lizard> any idea ? 01:55 < lizard> i chmod'ed everything. still complains 02:01 < hackbard> oh yeah 02:01 < hackbard> its using bash now 02:02 < lizard> it was using bash before. /bin/sh -> /bin/bash :) 02:02 < hackbard> well, it was using bash as it was symlinked in ur case 02:02 < hackbard> not everyone got this .. 02:02 < hackbard> now it is explicitly using bash 02:03 < lizard> i thought evey modern Linux has this.. ? 02:03 < hackbard> do you have it in there? 02:03 < hackbard> sure 02:03 < hackbard> urs doesnt as it seems :) 02:03 < lizard> doch 02:03 < lizard> :-) 02:03 < lizard> bash runs on my ext3 partition 02:03 < lizard> but not on reiserfs ;-( 02:05 < d3mian> umm, dont think is a fs prob, i guess 02:05 -!- d3mian is now known as d3m|away 02:06 < lizard> this is literally fscking strange 03:40 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9523D89.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 04:12 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD9048F02.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 04:27 -!- hardtimes [~andrei@ISDN-128k-125.DirectNET.ro] has joined #rocklinux 04:27 -!- hardtimes [~andrei@ISDN-128k-125.DirectNET.ro] has left #rocklinux () 05:41 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 05:46 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.137] has quit (""bahh"") 06:18 -!- d3m|away is now known as d3mian 06:18 < d3mian> umm, why da you think the install_bin should be implemented in Shell Scripting and not under C? 07:34 < huebi> moin ;-) 07:34 < d3mian> guten morgen huebi 07:35 < huebi> hi d3mian ;-) 07:55 < esden> morning 07:55 < d3mian> hi esden 07:56 < huebi> moin esden 07:57 < huebi> off to work.... 07:58 * -> esden sleeping with open eyes 07:59 < d3mian> umm weed problems, this is bad in a young person 08:17 -!- d3mian is now known as d3m|away 08:18 < esden> hmm ... can be 08:18 * -> esden be back 08:18 < d3m|away> wake uo now esden? :-) 08:18 < d3m|away> s/up/up 08:45 < th> re 08:48 < th> huebi: what's up with the i486er iso? did you test it? 09:09 -!- [anders] [~guest@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has joined #rocklinux 09:10 < d3m|away> hi [anders] 09:10 < d3m|away> hi th 09:17 < [anders]> re d3m|away 09:38 < rxr> re 09:38 < d3m|away> wb rxr 09:39 < rxr> hi d3m|away 09:50 -!- clifford [~clifford@M084P026.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 09:52 < d3m|away> hi clifford 09:52 < clifford> hi. 09:53 < rxr> hi clifford 09:53 < clifford> hi rxr. 09:53 < clifford> aehmm ... I need a sendmail guru ... 09:54 < clifford> anyone feels like beeing one? 09:57 < rxr> clifford: sorry - I do not use sendmail -> we had this last night - I suggested exim ... 09:57 * rxr @ Uni ... 09:58 < SMP> morning all. clifford .. 09:59 -!- d3m|away is now known as d3mian 09:59 < clifford> in fact I don't care about which MTA i will be using - as long as I can easily implement what i want. 09:59 < clifford> SMP: Hi! You might be able to help me ... 09:59 < d3mian> :) 10:00 < huebi> moin 10:00 < th> clifford: ask 10:00 < th> clifford: smp is using qmail, iirc 10:00 < SMP> clifford: I thought you were a sendmail guru ;-) 10:00 < clifford> ok. I need the mta not to use any local user database and just start a local app as mda. 10:01 < clifford> SMP: I a sendmail guru? No. 10:02 < fake> mornin 10:02 < fake> *ssssh* 10:02 < th> clifford: you would need to define a new mailer for that 10:02 < fake> <--- sitting in meeting :) 10:03 < clifford> th: tyes - there are no m4 macros to do that and I never made anything directly in sendmail.cf .. 10:03 < th> clifford: perhaps there is another way for what you intend to do? 10:03 < clifford> The problem ist that I should finish the backend for a webmail system until today evening .. :-( 10:05 < clifford> th: which would be? 10:05 < SMP> clifford: you might hate me for that, but... why not dump sendmail and use -erm- qmail or postfix? ;) 10:06 < clifford> SMP: I never used them and I'm afraid I don't have enought time to learn them. 10:07 < clifford> The last time I looked into qmail is 4 years ago - And it was pretty ugly ad that time. 10:07 < clifford> Never had time to look into postfix. 10:07 < SMP> clifford: should be easy enough to do with both of them. postfix is easy to grok, I've been told. I can give you a ton of help with qmail.. 10:08 < SMP> qmail hasn't changed a bit in the last four years 10:08 < SMP> literally :> 10:08 < clifford> As I looked at it some years ago it was everything else than streight forward. 10:08 < clifford> (or maybe it just had very bad documentation) 10:09 < th> clifford: a webmail system? 10:09 < clifford> yes - for www.diestartseite.at 10:09 < SMP> it's a matter of taste, I think. for me, sendmail is far from being straight forward 10:09 < th> clifford: so a webmailer without pop3 backend? 10:10 < SMP> clifford: however.. you seem have the choice of not getting it done with sendmail or getting it done with some other MTA... 10:10 < clifford> th: My own local delivery agent writes the mail into a database which is the backend for diestartseite.at 10:10 < clifford> In the local user-db I do only have the admin-users. 10:11 < th> clifford: so why not alias every local user to exactly one local user which then pipes it to your agent? 10:11 < clifford> SMP: do we have a good qmail package or should I build from source? 10:12 < clifford> th: because it's ugly that way. 10:13 < th> clifford: i don't know enough about sendmail to know the syntax of the M-class to define that mailer you need, sorry but i would suggest following SMP. 10:13 < SMP> clifford: my package would not be very helpful to you.. 10:13 < SMP> clifford: we can /query and I'll talk you thru 10:13 < clifford> th: thx anyways. I'm now going to try qmail .. 10:14 * clifford is doing /query with smp. 10:14 < th> if reality every throws me on a problem i can't solve easily with sendmail i would follow SMP too ;) 10:22 < huebi> th: I did not test the i486 image. Yesterday I started to rebuild the to packages linux and linux-src. I now do it in the style of Rene in drock. I got too confused with my own system to get it work. 10:51 < d3mian> cu 10:51 -!- d3mian [~death@208.165.55.137] has quit ("asdf") 11:43 < esden> re hi all 11:43 < huebi> hi esden 11:43 < esden> hi huebi 11:43 * -> esden hat kein bock auf betriebsysteme vorlesung 11:43 * -> esden wuerde eh da einschlafen ... 11:44 * -> esden muede wie sonnst noch was ... 11:44 * -> esden braucht bett ... 11:46 < blindcoder> esden> wie wärs mit länger schlafen :D 11:47 < rxr> re 11:47 < huebi> moin rxr ;-) 11:50 < rxr> moin huebi 11:50 < rxr> xscreensvaer 4.05 is out - it compiles out of the box ;-) 11:50 < esden> blindcoder: haha ... sehr witzig ... 11:50 < esden> rxr: cool thanks ;-) 11:53 < rxr> the xscreensaver thing was intended for huebi ... ;-) 11:59 < huebi> rxr: Thank you. Applied! 12:03 < blindcoder> esden: I have to tell apache to run a cgi as root for webmail 12:04 < esden> rxr: aaand ? 12:04 < blindcoder> esden: I've found a webmailer that can read the ~/Mail directory 12:04 < esden> blindcoder: seee ??? *fg* 12:05 < esden> blindcoder: hmm ... make a header redirection ... 12:05 < blindcoder> I just wanted to tell ya that a CGI will be setuid root 12:05 < esden> blindcoder: urghs ... hmm ... when it is not possible to do it otherwise ... 12:06 < esden> blindcoder: we should make https on all virtual hosts on apollo 12:06 < blindcoder> no, because it has to have access to the user's home to read it 12:06 < esden> blindcoder: sure ... 12:06 < esden> blindcoder: if there is no other solution .. but you could also make a group for it ... 12:07 < esden> blindcoder: but we talk about it when I am in IN 12:08 < blindcoder> sure 12:12 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p5081700D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:12 < bluefire> Moin 12:13 < huebi> hi bluefire ;-) 12:13 < blindcoder> hmm how can I tell apache to run as root in that specific directory? 12:13 < blindcoder> it runs as www-data although the file is suid root 12:13 < bluefire> How was LinuxTag? 12:14 < huebi> Very interesting. 12:15 < esden> bluefire: very productive 12:15 < bluefire> I was looking for a car to buy on the weekend, so I could not come. 12:15 < esden> bluefire: car ? who needs a car ... ;-) 12:15 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:15 < holyolli> moin 12:15 < bluefire> esden: acutally my girlfriend ;) 12:15 < esden> bluefire: you had to beam yourself to karlsruhe 12:16 < esden> bluefire: hmm ok ... you happy man ... :-( 12:16 < esden> bluefire: have you seen the images we took on lktag ? 12:16 < bluefire> Right. I plug myself into the usb port and get me sucked up and then transmitted to Karlruhe, he? 12:16 < esden> i mean lxtag ... 12:16 < bluefire> esden: no. url? 12:16 < esden> bluefire: sure ... 12:16 < holyolli> hi esden, bluefire 12:17 < esden> https://www.rocklinux.org/people/jocelyn/linuxtag02/linuxtag02.html 12:17 < esden> https://www.rocklinux.org/people/jocelyn/linuxtag02/ 12:17 < esden> here they are 12:17 < huebi> bluefire: Intel is interested in the port of Rocklinux on ia64 12:17 < huebi> moin holyolli 12:17 < holyolli> muuuh huebi ;-) 12:18 < esden> huep holyolli 12:19 < bluefire> That Alpha cooler is pretty big. 12:19 < esden> huebi: i would also like to work on this port ... so if you will have capacitys to include me in this aproach I will apreciate if you will do so ... 12:19 < esden> bluefire: and hot ... 12:19 < huebi> esden: ACK 12:19 < esden> bluefire: like a beautiful babe ;-) 12:20 < esden> huebi: thanks 12:20 < bluefire> I guess so. Just too expensive at the time they were sold. 12:21 < esden> bluefire: beauty is expensive ... ;-) 12:21 < bluefire> esden: Like my new cisco aironet 12:21 < esden> bluefire: urghs ... >_< shell I start to hate you ? 12:22 < esden> ;-) 12:22 < holyolli> .oO(esden hates many people.. ;-) 12:22 < esden> holyolli: yes all people that have more beautifull hardware then me ;-) 12:24 < fake> *lol* 12:24 < esden> hi fake 12:24 < fake> the comments of the photos are great ;) 12:24 < esden> fake: yes they are 12:24 < fake> fake (left) and esden (background) discuss an issue of vital importance while some guy (extreme right) looks on enviously. 12:24 < esden> rofl 12:25 < esden> this one is really good 12:25 < rxr> Why does the ROCK channel doesn't have a topic ? 12:25 < esden> fake: blindcoder: bitte postet im bboard ... wir muessen dem bissel leben einhauchen ;-) 12:25 < fake> Unfortunately, we don't have pictures of such poignant moments as: 12:25 < fake> * The Wrath of Ripclaw (or, why fake should use an ESD band when working on ripclaw's hardware) 12:25 < esden> rxr: no idea ... mom 12:26 < huebi> esden: The only thing of a man that must be small is his mobile phone ;->>> 12:28 < esden> hehe ... /me wants a e15k with femail 12:29 < esden> the e15k will become my mobile phone 12:29 < esden> ;-) 12:29 * fake wants ia64 too 12:29 < esden> fake: *stampf* ;-) ich war frueher 12:29 < esden> ;-) 12:31 * fake has 2 ARMs 12:33 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o esden] by ChanServ 12:33 -!- esden changed the topic of #rocklinux to: Rock also likes mips (bug fake) 12:33 <@esden> *fg* 12:33 <@esden> fake: in what devices? 12:33 * huebi gave away his Acorn A3000 with an ARM 2 CPU about 2 Years ago. 12:33 < fake> *grrrr* 12:34 < fake> esden: body 12:34 <@esden> rofl ... 12:34 < fake> ;) 12:34 <@esden> fake: you have chips implanted .. cool stuff 12:34 < huebi> bbl 12:35 < rxr> esden: maybe a more usefull topic? 12:35 -!- esden changed the topic of #rocklinux to: You feel not sexy enough? Use Rock Linux! 12:35 <@esden> *gg* 12:35 < rxr> ROCK Linux ... 12:35 < rxr> ^^^^ 12:36 -!- fake changed the topic of #rocklinux to: Don't feel sexy enough? Use Rock Linux! 12:36 -!- ChanServ changed the topic of #rocklinux to: You feel not sexy enough? Use Rock Linux! 12:36 -!- esden changed the topic of #rocklinux to: You feel not sexy enough? Use ROCK Linux! 12:36 * rxr nervt Esden ;-) 12:36 -!- fake changed the topic of #rocklinux to: Don't feel sexy enough? Use Rock Linux! 12:36 -!- ChanServ changed the topic of #rocklinux to: You feel not sexy enough? Use ROCK Linux! 12:36 < fake> wixxa! 12:36 <@esden> huh 12:36 -!- esden changed the topic of #rocklinux to: Den't feel not sexy enough? Use ROCK Linux! 12:36 -!- esden changed the topic of #rocklinux to: Don't feel not sexy enough? Use ROCK Linux! 12:36 <@esden> better 12:37 < fake> man,... 12:37 < holyolli> .oO(urgs..polnisch klingt komisch) 12:37 < fake> das is total polenglisch 12:37 <@esden> holyolli: ??? 12:37 -!- fake changed the topic of #rocklinux to: Don't feel sexy enough? Use Rock Linux! 12:37 -!- ChanServ changed the topic of #rocklinux to: Don't feel not sexy enough? Use ROCK Linux! 12:37 -!- esden changed the topic of #rocklinux to: Don't feel sexy enough? Use ROCK Linux! 12:37 < holyolli> esden: ich mach grad ne telefonkonferenz mit polen mit dolmetscher 12:37 < fake> holyolli: sag mal: curva! 12:37 <@esden> holyolli: oje ... du armer 12:38 <@esden> fake: nene ... dass heisst kurwa 12:38 < holyolli> lieber nicht... =) 12:38 < fake> esden: das tolle an telefonkonferenzen ist - man sieht nicht wie andere leuete worte aussprechen 12:38 <@esden> der arme holyolli muss was mit polen machen ... er tut mir echt leid ... die machen ihn bestimmt platt ... ;-) 12:39 < [anders]> "Don't feel sexy enough? Use ROCK Linux!" 12:39 < [anders]> Don't feel not in essence mean Do feel 12:39 <@esden> brackets ... aehm [anders] ... what do you want to say with it .. ? 12:39 < holyolli> esden: das nächste mal ruf ich dich an...die dolmetscherin kennt sich nicht wirklich mit it aus =) 12:40 <@esden> holyolli: ja mache dass ... ich helfe dir gerne ... 12:40 <@esden> muahaha ... *gg* 12:40 <@esden> neee .. im ernst ... 12:40 * fake geht mal was essen 12:40 < fake> oder so 12:40 < fake> *wunk* 12:41 <@esden> fake: fresssack 12:41 < fake> bis nacher 12:41 <@esden> cu fake 12:41 < holyolli> cu l8ter fake 12:45 <@esden> dot dot dot 12:46 < blindcoder> dit dit daw 12:48 <@esden> bluefire: *watz* 12:48 <@esden> ups 12:48 <@esden> i mean blindcoder 12:49 * bluefire ouch 12:49 <@esden> gomeeeeenasai bluefire 12:49 * bluefire slaps esden over the head with a cisco aironet wrapped up in a brick 12:49 < bluefire> hehe 12:49 <@esden> bluefire: mhhh sweet pain ;-) 12:50 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o esden] by esden 13:01 < blindcoder> esden: I'm seriously thinking about a second apache-process running as root.... 13:06 < esden> blindcoder: urghs ... jajks ... 13:06 < esden> blindcoder: on other port ? 13:06 < blindcoder> yes... <jk< 13:06 < blindcoder> sure another port... and just for testing. 13:06 < blindcoder> not productive 13:06 < esden> blindcoder: poste im board ... bitte !!! ... 13:06 < blindcoder> there just HAS to be another solution 13:06 < blindcoder> hang on 13:06 < holyolli> does anybody know an url for 1.5.16 intel? 13:07 < esden> blindcoder: kk ... do it ... 13:07 < esden> holyolli: there is none ... afaik 13:07 < holyolli> hm. 13:07 < holyolli> and an older version? 13:07 < th> 1.5.15 iso is available at download.rocklinux.org 13:08 < holyolli> thx 13:09 < blindcoder> esden: done 13:16 < blindcoder> *argh* 13:16 * blindcoder drags away food far far away 13:17 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p5081700D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 13:20 < fake> re 13:20 < holyolli> re fake 13:21 < blindcoder> re fake 13:21 < fake> ha, i luv diz line 13:21 < fake> 350 kb/s to gd.tuwien.ac.at 13:21 < th> not bad 13:22 < th> i had ~980kb/s to download.rocklinux.de this morning 13:22 * holyolli had just now 900kb/s from download.rocklinux.de ;-) 13:22 < fake> i had 17 MB/s to ftp.de.debian.org :P 13:23 < th> fake: that's your mirror, isn't it? 13:23 < th> fake: 17MB/s i get 10MB from https://localhost/ 13:24 < fake> th> no, the official one... 13:24 < fake> maybe i read it wrong and it was 1,7 MB - who cares. 13:24 < th> hehe 13:24 < fake> it was pretty fast, anyways ;) 13:24 < th> ack 13:26 < rxr> 57755644 Bytes music and video ... 13:26 < fake> oeh? 13:26 < rxr> 57 GB 13:27 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p5081700D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:27 < fake> MB 13:27 < bluefire> I hate it when the Gnome panel crashes. 13:28 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:28 < holyolli> hi snyke 13:29 < snyke> hi 13:29 < esden> moep 13:29 < rxr> 1703 files 13:30 < snyke> hi esden *k* 13:30 < esden> fake: willst du nicht im bboard posten ? 13:30 < esden> hi snyke 13:30 < fake> wieso? 13:30 < esden> weil es so wenig da los ist ... 13:30 < esden> scheiss deutsch 13:30 < holyolli> hehe 13:30 < esden> holyolli: ??? 13:31 < fake> ich post selten, aber ich werd mal wieder drueberkucken. 13:31 < holyolli> esden: dieser satz kein verb. 13:31 < holyolli> ;-) 13:31 < praenti> hi 13:32 < praenti> wie war das gleich nochmal wenn man einen screen nicht mehr bekommt 13:32 < snyke> -wipe 13:32 < snyke> :) 13:32 < praenti> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check. 13:32 < praenti> snyke: trottel. dann is er weg 13:33 < snyke> i weis 13:33 -!- clifford [~clifford@M084P026.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:35 < esden> fake: danke 13:37 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD904846D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:38 < praenti> aha. is ein env prob bei mir. sagt die zeile auch bei screen ohne option 13:39 < praenti> und schon hab ich ihn 13:42 * -> esden brb 13:42 < rxr> urgh 13:42 < rxr> doesn so wanna see the gentoo perl ebuild script? 13:43 < rxr> # Umm, for some reason this doesn't want to work, so we'll just remove 13:43 < rxr> # the makefiles and let make rebuild them itself. (It seems to do it 13:43 < rxr> # right the second time... -- pete 13:43 < rxr> *lol* 13:43 < rxr> I fixed the make dep the right way ;-) 13:44 < rxr> the script has 181 lines !!!!!! 13:46 < fake> so. 13:47 < fake> praenti: screen -R -DD 13:47 < fake> aw. 13:48 < praenti> fake: schon geloest 13:48 < fake> i c 13:50 < rxr> Super ChangeLog entry: Added ebuild that works with gcc 3.1. 13:50 < rxr> toll 13:50 -!- clifford [~clifford@62.46.0.110] has joined #rocklinux 13:50 < fake> hi cliff 13:50 < rxr> moin clifford 13:51 * rxr fixing perl5 myself - Gentoo scripts are far from being useable for anything - nor are they readable ... 13:51 < rxr> https://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/gentoo-x86/sys-devel/perl/perl-5.6.1-r4.ebuild?rev=1.1&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup 13:51 < fake> clifford: managed to mkdir people/fake yet? 13:59 < fake> SYN... SYN... SYN... 14:03 < rxr> fake: I guess this was only a reconnect because of less traffic on www.rocklinux.org ... 14:04 < fake> argl. 14:07 * blindcoder thinks about downloading his animes from the "bitz" 14:07 < blindcoder> since my connection at home gets terminated every few minutes 14:08 < fake> blindcoder: don't think. humans are there for generating traffic. horses have bigger heads. let them think. 14:09 < blindcoder> eah, but a horse is only a handsan away from goind mad 14:09 < rxr> errrrr - Gentoo gcc build script: 14:09 < rxr> (some flood ...): 14:09 < rxr> # Red Hat patches 14:09 < rxr> for x in gcc31-boehm-gc-libs.patch.bz2 \ 14:09 < rxr> gcc31-fde-merge-compat.patch.bz2 \ 14:09 < rxr> gcc31-attr-visibility.patch.bz2 \ 14:09 < rxr> gcc31-attr-visibility2.patch.bz2 \ 14:10 < rxr> gcc31-trunc_int_for_mode.patch.bz2 \ 14:10 < rxr> gcc31-dwarf2-pr6381.patch.bz2 \ 14:10 < rxr> gcc31-dwarf2-pr6436-test.patch.bz2 \ 14:10 < rxr> gcc31-c++-null-pm-init.patch.bz2 \ 14:10 < rxr> gcc31-c++-tsubst-asm.patch.bz2 \ 14:10 < rxr> gcc31-fdata-sections.patch.bz2 \ 14:10 < rxr> gcc31-fold-const.patch.bz2 \ 14:10 < rxr> gcc31-fold-const2.patch.bz2 \ 14:10 < rxr> gcc31-i386-malign-double-doc.patch.bz2 \ 14:10 < rxr> gcc31-libstdc++-pr6594.patch.bz2 \ 14:10 < rxr> gcc31-libstdc++-pr6648.patch.bz2 \ 14:10 < rxr> gcc31-libstdc++-setrlim.patch.bz2 \ 14:10 < rxr> gcc31-pr6643.patch.bz2 \ 14:10 < rxr> gcc31-test-rotate.patch.bz2 14:10 < rxr> do 14:10 < rxr> *lol* 14:10 < blindcoder> rxr> cut it short, just post a fr x in *.patch.bz2 ;) 14:10 < rxr> # SuSE patches 14:10 < rxr> # Mandrake patches 14:10 < rxr> SuSE and Mandrake patches not posted ... 14:10 < rxr> Seems that they apply any patch they find ... 14:11 < rxr> blindcoder: I do not want to merge this sh*t into ROCK - I only wanna take a look into gentoo - and fix our perl5 for gcc-3.1 ... 14:12 < blindcoder> rxr: sorry... I didn't want to say so.. 14:12 < fake> rxr: seet idea! maybe it will even build! 14:12 < fake> s,seet,sw33 14:12 < fake> t 14:13 < rxr> argggh 14:13 < rxr> they store the pathces bz2'ed - not nice for just viewing in the browser ... 14:14 < rxr> arggh 14:17 * blindcoder makes himself some instant noodles and a cup of coffee 14:22 -!- [anders] [~guest@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has quit ("Nice to see you, to see you...") 14:27 * praenti has read some trove docu 14:27 < praenti> i think i would like this 14:28 < praenti> better designed than rpm (too small desc and ugly) or deb (overloaded) 14:29 < rxr> praenti: URL ? 14:29 < praenti> rxr: https://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/trove/trove-design.html 14:30 < praenti> rxr: was the link from esdens mail 14:33 < praenti> ohh. ich glaub das werden die nicht lange machen, wenn wir das benutzen 14:33 < praenti> Trove site administrators get email notification of all package creations (so they can watch for site-policy violations). 14:33 < praenti> *g* 14:35 * praenti kaffee trinken 14:36 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.org/projects/drock/drock-screens.html 14:36 < rxr> next screenshot online ;-) 14:52 < th> huebi: doc/rfc is broken auf der 1.5.15er? 14:59 < th> (dem iso auf download.rocklinux.de) 15:02 -!- trekkie3k [~k3t@pD90056FA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:03 -!- trekkie3k [~k3t@pD90056FA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 15:10 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD904846D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 15:15 < esden> re hi all 15:15 < esden> praenti: ich bin heute nicht in IN 15:16 -!- kaerF [freak@pD9530BB3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:16 < blindcoder> re esden 15:17 * praenti wieder da 15:18 -!- Freak [freak@p5083959C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: kaerF!freak@pD9530BB3.dip.t-dialin.net))) 15:18 -!- kaerF is now known as Freak 15:18 < huebi> re 15:18 < Freak> re 15:19 < praenti> hi huebi 15:19 < huebi> hi praenti 15:21 < praenti> esden: uebernachtest du wieder beim uwe? 15:21 < huebi> th: RFC sieht OK aus. ROCK Linux 1.5.15_2002-05-27_02h30 intel (native, 2002/05/27) 15:22 < esden> praenti: ja ... leider beim uwe ;-) 15:23 < huebi> esden: Gibt es da keine "Uwine 15:23 < huebi> ? 15:24 < esden> huebi: nee ... aber andere namen gibt es hier schon ... 15:24 < esden> *treum* 15:24 < th> huebi: bzip2: rfc.tar.bz2: data integrity (CRC) error in data 15:24 < th> bzip2 -t rfc.tar.bz2 15:26 < huebi> th: Ich habe genau diese CD gestern hier installieren lassen. Alles liess sich installieren. Brenn doch das image noch einmal. Ich hatte den gleichen Fehler auf meinem 1.4.0er Image. 15:26 < th> huebi: ich habe das iso loopback gemounted 15:26 < huebi> auf meiner 1.4.0er CD ;-) 15:27 < huebi> th: moment... 15:29 < rxr> shit - I damaged my ext2 on the U5 with enabling a DMA mode for IDE ... 15:29 < holyolli> did anybody made some performance tests with lvd and reiserfs? 15:30 < huebi> holyolli: jo. and xfs 15:30 < th> huebi: damn. wrong md5sum 15:30 < huebi> holyolli: I can post that later. 15:30 < holyolli> huebi: do you have any numbers 15:30 < holyolli> ah 15:30 < holyolli> thx 15:30 < fake> re. 15:30 < th> huebi: please recalc md5 of iso... 15:30 < th> or nor 15:31 < th> or no 15:31 < holyolli> esden: btw. i tested the 2.4.18 kernel on alpha and it didn't work - the same config on 2.4.17 worked :-/ 15:31 < th> i do it on world 15:31 < huebi> th: ok 15:31 < huebi> th: I _did_ that on world 15:31 < th> huebi: yes i know... seems that my wget failed 15:31 < esden> holyolli: hmm ... I have to test it too ... but I have to wait till the disk from huebi is mutated ... 15:32 < esden> the mutation should be fullfilled this weekend ... 15:33 < th> huebi: is that iso mirrored somewhere? 15:33 < huebi> th: not yet 15:34 < th> huebi: so i should split on both sides and find the wrong part 15:34 < holyolli> esden: mutation? 15:34 < holyolli> *bahnhof* 15:34 < holyolli> erm 15:34 < holyolli> *railwaystation* 15:34 < holyolli> ;) 15:34 < huebi> root@imf001c3:/tmp# bzip2 -cd rfc.tar.bz2 |md5sum 15:34 < huebi> 11a0387c0648ef1826284930e685dc73 - 15:36 < fake> OpenOffice is pretty seet. 15:36 < fake> sweet, i mean. 15:36 < huebi> fake: sw33t? 15:36 < holyolli> o.k. - i'll go home now...cya later 15:36 < esden> holyolli: huebi gave me a 8GB 50pin scsi disk ... it will be mutated to a 9.1GB lvd scsi disk 15:36 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has quit ("fnord!") 15:37 < esden> with 10k rotations ;-) 15:37 < esden> fast ;-) 15:37 < fake> huebi : exactly ;) 15:37 < esden> hmm ... he gone .. 15:37 < esden> tztztz 15:37 < fake> esden: how? 15:37 < fake> the "polish" way? 15:37 < huebi> esden: kool 15:37 < huebi> ! 15:38 < Freak> https://linuid.dhis.org/~freak/gallery/RockLinux 15:38 < huebi> fake: No, the "I need something old but cant get it any more" - way 15:38 < esden> fake: no zero needs the 50 pin disk for his sparc ... so he is buying the 9.1 disk from erdi ... giving it to me ... and I give him the 8GB one ... ;-) 15:38 < fake> *smashes_head_against_desk* 15:39 < fake> *again* 15:39 < esden> I do not understand the philosophy of zero ... but I do not say anything against it ... ;-) 15:39 < esden> as far as I get something better that I can drive in my alpha .. I am happy ;-) 15:39 < fake> esden: i wouldn't either, if i were you 15:40 < esden> fake: why ? 15:40 < esden> ohh 15:40 < esden> argh ... 15:40 < huebi> fake: https://www.myipv6.de/fun/stress_reduktion_kit.gif *g* 15:40 < esden> ok sure ... 15:40 < esden> yes ... muahaha ... 15:41 < esden> I have to print it and hang out in bitz ;-) 15:41 < huebi> hehe 15:41 < esden> then we will have holes in the walls pretty fast ;-) 15:43 < th> huebi: i've another major problem with that iso 15:43 < th> huebi: CVS directories 15:43 < huebi> th: o_O 15:44 < th> huebi: the CVS-dirs in the sysfile-tree a still there 15:44 < huebi> th: I know. I allmost found all the directories. 15:44 < huebi> also in install-disks IIRC 15:46 < th> huebi: is there any find -type d -name CVS -exec rm -rf {} ';' in the install scripts now? 15:48 < huebi> th: No. I just exclude files and directories containing in it's name CVS from copying. That's cleaner. 15:55 < huebi> I started a new build at 12:36:45. I still have a big TODO list 16:06 < rolla> re 16:07 * praenti is away. cu 16:11 < th> huebi: yes ok. just wanted to know wether the problem is solved 16:15 < huebi> I'll do some more work on 1.5.16 tonight. 16:20 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:20 < holyolli> re 16:20 < aszlig> re 16:21 < aszlig> hullo 16:21 < holyolli> hi aszlig 16:28 -!- simon- [~simon@pD951E925.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:30 < th> oups. my vim.ext was broken? (speaking of 1.5) 16:31 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 16:31 < Mike1> Hi All 16:31 < fake> hi 16:31 < huebi> hi Mike1 ;-) 16:31 < rxr> Hi Mike1! You are blue ? ;-) 16:32 < huebi> test 16:32 < Mike1> rxr not really why? 16:32 < rxr> because you talk so colorfull ... 16:33 < Mike1> :Þ 16:33 < Mike1> hehe just playing around with xchat 16:33 < rxr> ok /me away ... 16:40 -!- simon [~simon@80.135.88.154] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:41 -!- simon- is now known as simon 16:41 < holyolli> <scriptskiddiemode> 16:41 < holyolli> System Info: Linux 2.4.18-rc4 | CPU model name : Pentium III (Coppermine) @ cpu MHz : 937.566 with 2 processors | Processes: 79 | Uptime: 6:41pm up 16:45, 6 users, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 | Screen Resolution: 1280x1024 16:41 < holyolli> </scriptskiddiemode> 16:41 < holyolli> hah! 16:41 < holyolli> <-- l33t scr1pt-k1dd13 16:41 < holyolli> ;) 16:42 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p5081700D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 16:43 < esden> holyolli: respekt ... 16:43 < holyolli> mh? 16:44 < holyolli> is nur geklaut das script (und ein wenig angepasst) 16:44 * -> esden is loughing about holyolli because he is a scriptkiddie *muahahaha* 16:45 < esden> holyolli: very good for a script kiddie ... because a normal sk could not modify it ;-) 16:45 < holyolli> hehe 16:47 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 16:56 -!- miro [miro@miro.staff.opn] has joined #rocklinux 16:56 < miro> hola 16:57 < Freak> huhu 16:58 < aszlig> hullo miro 16:58 < rxr> re 16:58 -!- sockmonk [~wsheldahl@moose.qx.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:58 < Freak> wb rxr 16:59 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD9048F34.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:00 < huebi> holyolli - Advanced Script Kiddy ;-> 17:02 < holyolli> hehe 17:19 -!- miro_ [miro@miro.staff.opn] has joined #rocklinux 17:37 -!- miro [miro@miro.staff.opn] has quit (Connection timed out) 17:38 < huebi> cu l8ter. ;-) 17:44 -!- trekkie3k [~k3t@pD90056FA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:46 -!- trekkie3k [~k3t@pD90056FA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 17:54 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD9048F34.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 17:55 < th> grmpf sudo-config file (sudoers) changed to /etc/sudoers? 18:00 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD9048F29.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:13 < Freak> wb 18:29 < rxr> hm - maybe the perl5 gcc31 problem is caused by a rather interesting union declaration ... 18:29 < rxr> the gentoo perl is not patched 18:29 < rxr> the gcc31 in gentoo is highly patched ... - but I already copyied nearly all (the patches that look like they could help) -> the patches do not help yet ... 18:30 < rxr> s/do/did/ 18:38 -!- sphaera [sphaera@pD9E3EC2D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:38 < sphaera> hello. 18:38 < rxr> does anyone here knows how to enable detailed casting warning with gcc31 ? 18:39 < rxr> I only get incompatible type for argument bla of function xyz ... 18:39 < rxr> I would like to know which type gcc expects ... 18:41 < clifford> rxr: there is a -Wcast-qual and -Wcast-align 18:41 < rxr> oh hi clifford 18:42 < rxr> clifford: I'm tracking this perl5 w/ gcc-3.1 thing down ... 18:42 < clifford> yes - I see it. :-) 18:42 < rxr> clifford: this two optinos aren't a help ... 18:42 < SMP> ah 18:42 < rxr> I already tried them 18:42 < SMP> clifford: Erfolg gehabt mit SMTP::Server? 18:43 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has quit ("X-Chat: use it, it makes you bulletproof") 18:43 < clifford> SMP: yup. Ich hab' jetzt einen in perl geschriebenen mailserver der genau das macht was ich brauch'. 18:43 * SMP schuettelt sich 18:43 < clifford> wieso? ist doch cool! 18:44 < th> perl is nich cool ;) 18:44 < th> IMVHO 18:44 < clifford> th: warum? awk hat ein plugin interface. Ich koennte mal versuchen ... 18:44 < th> das arme awk 18:44 < SMP> hehehe 18:45 < th> einen smtpd in awk geschrieben... das haette ja was 18:45 < SMP> naja 18:45 < th> ich hab ja nicht gesagt _was_ 18:45 < SMP> 's gibt nen Webserver in awk 18:45 < clifford> ... es gibt nen webserver in postscript ... 18:46 < SMP> die netteste Idee dazu hab ich heute erst gehoert.. 18:46 < rxr> wieso gibt es so viele Leute die sich in die List der nie benoetigten dinge einreihen wollen ... 18:46 -!- dalai [~max@pD9009664.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:46 < rxr> es gibt auch irgendnen Assembler in Bash oder so 18:46 < SMP> nen webserver in /bin/sh oder aehnlichen hat ja jeder schon mal geschrieben, aber.. 18:47 < sockmonk> clifford: actually there is a postscript webserver 18:47 < th> nen /bin/sh webbrowser ;) 18:47 < clifford> der bash asm is' aber nicht soo toll .. 18:47 < SMP> die beste Idee war jemand der einen in ksh geschrieben hat und ein netcat binary uuencoded im script eingebaut hat 18:47 < sockmonk> ps-httpd at https://www.pugo.org:8080/ 18:47 < SMP> sockmonk: we know that it was not a joke 18:47 < th> netcat? klingt das wie irix? 18:48 < SMP> noe. 18:49 < rxr> clifford: ne idee wie ich gcc dazu ueberrede etwas sinnvolles fuer: pp_sys.c:1696: incompatible type for argument 5 of `sendto' 18:49 < rxr> auszugeben ? 18:49 < rxr> gcc-3.1 mag viele Stellen wo "struct sockaddr *" benutzt wird nicht ... 18:50 < clifford> rxr: hmmm... keine ahnung. 18:50 < rxr> sendto hat als argument 4: __CONST_SOCKADDR_ARG __addr, 18:51 < rxr> was eine typedef union ist ... 18:51 < rxr> (muss das so eckelig sein ... ?!?) 18:51 -!- sphaera [sphaera@pD9E3EC2D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit () 18:51 < rxr> die definition faengt so an: 18:51 < rxr> typedef union { __const struct sockaddr *__restrict __sockaddr__; 18:51 < rxr> ... 18:53 < rxr> ich habe jetzt schon: 18:53 < rxr> union __CONST_SOCKADDR_ARG* test = namebuf; 18:54 < rxr> und rufe die function mit diesem test auf - und gcc-3.1 mag das noch immer nicht ... 18:59 < huebi> re 19:00 < huebi> 17:55 < th> grmpf sudo-config file (sudoers) changed to /etc/sudoers? <- Jo. It's now in base and not in ext any more. 19:01 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@p50806AD0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:01 < hackbard> hi 19:03 < rxr> hi hackbard 19:03 < hackbard> hi rene 19:03 < huebi> hi hackbard 19:04 < hackbard> yo huebi 19:04 < hackbard> :) 19:05 < rxr> clifford: might this be caused by our disabling of the fixincludes ? 19:05 < rxr> maybe normally these scripts convert s.th. in the socket.h ... 19:05 < th> huebi: i had some dependencies on the old location... 19:05 < th> huebi: why do we move so much to base? 19:05 < rxr> I have not found a single reference for a perl5 + gcc-3.1 problem on the net ... 19:06 < huebi> th: Simply because there are about 100MB left empty on the CD 19:06 < huebi> ;-) 19:08 < rxr> huebi: have you already moved kde into base ? 19:09 < huebi> rxr: No, I didn't. I'm still busy with the linux/linux-src issue. 19:09 < rxr> kde might be a good candidate for space filling ;-) 19:09 < huebi> hehe 19:10 < th> huebi: grrr 19:10 < th> huebi: put some dilbert strips to the cd... but ... but ... grmpf 19:11 < rxr> fixincl.patch disabled - running the next build ... 19:11 < th> i always thought to have a real minimal system when just installing the base 19:11 < huebi> th: moment 19:15 < huebi> th: I want to put it in util. Is that ok for you? 19:15 < th> ouhm 19:15 < th> what IS util? 19:16 < th> aehm 19:16 < th> ahh 19:16 < huebi> th: If you install there are a few sections 19:16 < th> the Install-shell 19:16 < th> the selections there... 19:16 < huebi> exact 19:16 < th> so we have a DUP in terms "base: 19:16 < th> so we have a DUP in terms "base 19:16 < th> so we have a DUP in terms "base" 19:17 < th> on the one hand it's such a Install-shell section 19:17 < th> OTOH it's the "opposite" of ext (base-config vs. ext-config) 19:17 < huebi> o --3-5- base sudo <- It's not installed by default. 19:17 -!- miro_ [miro@miro.staff.opn] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:18 < huebi> ---- base-archive/INDEX 1 <- It belongs to base-config 19:18 < th> i just want to have a section which is quite a must-have 19:19 < th> hmmm 19:19 < th> hmmm 19:19 < th> hmm 19:19 < th> it's less the fact that sudo is now in base (which i could accept) but it's the fact that /etc/opt/sudo/sudoers changed to /etc/sudoers 19:20 < th> hmmm 19:20 < huebi> Now it is in the section base. But it is not installed by default. Sudo is quite essential on production systems. IMHO 19:20 < huebi> s/section/installsection/ 19:21 < th> huebi: let's have it in base. it's less util than base IMHO 19:21 < huebi> th: Yes, I think in the same way. I let it stay in base as it is. 19:22 < th> it's just the problem that i really should not rely on pathes 19:22 < th> i had some mechanisms to modify sudoers file 19:22 < th> i'll adapt 19:22 < huebi> th: great. ;-) 19:25 < huebi> screen 3.9.11 has an exploit. I downgraded to 3.9.10 19:25 < th> Screen version 3.09.10 (FAU) 4-Sep-01 19:25 < th> whew ;) 19:29 < huebi> ** Finished (06/12/02 12:36:43 - 06/12/02 18:04:59) ** <- I like MAKE="$MAKE -j16" ;-))) 19:29 < huebi> root@zeus:/rock-linux# ls dist/var/adm/logs/*err 19:29 < huebi> dist/var/adm/logs/1-linux.err dist/var/adm/logs/3-linux.err dist/var/adm/logs/3-pcmcia-cs.err 19:30 < huebi> dist/var/adm/logs/3-alsa.err dist/var/adm/logs/3-mtools.err dist/var/adm/logs/3-softdog.err 19:30 < huebi> and now some fixing ;-)) 19:41 -!- Netsplit bear.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: clifford 19:42 -!- Netsplit over, joins: clifford 19:55 * huebi installing 1.5.16. booted from an old 1.5.14 CD 20:00 < fake> hai 20:00 < rxr> == 06/12/02 20:00:11 =[2]=> Finished building package gcc3. 20:00 < fake> clifford : there? 20:00 < rxr> he was here half an hour ago or so ... 20:01 < rxr> == 20:00:24 =[2]=> Building base/perl5 [5.6.1 1.7.0-DEV-200206111410]. 20:01 < rxr> betet mal bitte ;-) 20:02 < rxr> == 06/12/02 20:02:26 =[2]=> Aborted building package perl5. 20:03 < rxr> hm diabling fixincludes doesn't help ... 20:03 * fake hat nicht gebetet 20:04 < rxr> ah - steinigt ihn! 20:04 < rxr> so ich mach erstmal Physik ... - doofer gcc-3.1 ... oder besser socket.h muell ... 20:07 < fake> ... 20:08 * huebi hat aufgeraeumt.... 20:09 -!- the][owl [~mail-spam@B5380.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:09 < the][owl> hi 20:09 < huebi> hi the][owl 20:12 -!- Netsplit bear.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: clifford 20:14 -!- Netsplit over, joins: clifford 20:14 < fake> ... 20:20 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082AFE1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:20 < tsa> moin. 20:20 < huebi> hi tsa 20:20 < huebi> ;-) 20:20 < tsa> hi huebi 20:21 < tsa> gr....sourceforge is slow.. 20:21 < huebi> no money - no speed ;( 20:21 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:22 < huebi> hi netti ;-) 20:22 < tsa> huebi: ack. 20:22 < tsa> hi netcrow 20:22 < netcrow> hidiho 20:22 < tsa> hm.... 20:22 < tsa> why is boogieboy editing .cache files on sourceforge cvs? 20:23 < tsa> this guy makes strange things... 20:23 < tsa> *sigh* 20:24 < rxr> tsa: I already noticed him via email ... 20:25 < rxr> tsa: could you post a diff of what he edited? I have not yet took a look ... 20:25 < tsa> rxr: i'm already trying, but sourceforge is extremely slow today.. 20:25 * clifford is away: away 20:26 < rxr> tsa: how would you like to get allan's sign? 300dpi? -> 25.5 MB ... 20:26 < tsa> https://sourceforge.net takes me about 3 minutes just to load the page.. 20:26 < tsa> rxr: i don't need it... 20:26 < tsa> keep it for yourself, put it on your wall or something.. ;) 20:27 < rxr> tsa - sure. It will hang on the wall in a few minutes - but first I'll scan the sign - for everyone who want it ... 20:27 < tsa> ah...strange 20:27 < tsa> sourceforge is fast again. 20:27 * rxr updating now, too ... 20:28 < tsa> the old .cache file (gmos, in this case) was completely removed and replaced by his own one. 20:28 < tsa> GRRRR. 20:28 < rxr> toll ... 20:28 < tsa> doesn't he read the mailing list? 20:28 < rxr> maybe not ... 20:29 < tsa> he should do, when editing files in our repositories without knowing what he is doing.. 20:30 < rxr> ok scanned 20:31 -!- hackbard is now known as hack^afk 20:31 < hack^afk> building 1.7 right now, where ist it supposed to break ? :) 20:31 < hack^afk> just to know the time i have to come back 20:32 < rxr> when you use gcc2 most will compile ...- only some gnome2 stuff will fail 20:32 < rxr> when you use gcc3 for all - you'll not get far ... 20:32 < hack^afk> okay, so ghostscript is fixed? 20:32 < hack^afk> no, gcc2 20:34 < rxr> hack^afk: oh - maybe not ... 20:34 < hack^afk> okay, we will see - i am back in 3-4 hours. thats the time glibc needs anyways :) 20:34 < hack^afk> later .. 20:34 < rxr> ich klettere mal auch meinem schreibtisch rum - falls ich mich nicth melde bin ich runter gefallen ... 20:34 < hack^afk> lol 20:34 < rxr> hack^afk: on which CPU ? ;-) 20:35 < hack^afk> much luck! :) 20:35 < hack^afk> 450 mhz 128 ram 20:35 < rxr> s/auch/auf/ 20:35 < hack^afk> intel3 20:35 < rxr> hack^afk: ah ok 20:35 < hack^afk> bye 20:35 < tsa> cu hack^afk 20:35 < huebi> cu hack^afk 20:38 < tsa> *gaehn* 20:38 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:39 < holyolli> re 20:39 < tsa> tag olli 20:39 < huebi> hi holyolli 20:39 < tsa> knuddeln? 20:39 < holyolli> hi tsa 20:39 < holyolli> tsa: au ja ;) 20:39 < holyolli> huhu huebi 20:41 < tsa> frage an die kde-user: wie legt man einen shortcut fuer ein programm fest? (beliebiges, nicht kde-spezifisches programm..) 20:41 < rxr> tsa: ?? 20:41 < netcrow> ln -s ;-)) 20:41 < tsa> *sigh* 20:42 < netcrow> rechtsklick würd ich bei kde mal sagen 20:42 < tsa> aalllsoo.. 20:42 -!- Netsplit bear.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: SMP 20:42 < rxr> tsa: stop 20:42 < rxr> K Control Center -> Look&Feel -> Shortcuts 20:42 < tsa> als beispiel: kde laeuft grade. $user moechte, dass bei druecken von strg-alt-blah das programm blubb gestartet wird. 20:42 -!- Netsplit over, joins: SMP 20:42 < tsa> aaaaah! 20:42 < tsa> danke. 20:43 < rxr> tsa: jups c above ;-) 20:43 < holyolli> tsa: $user == "birger"? ;) 20:43 < tsa> jupp...genau dieses. 20:44 -!- SMP_ [stefanp@world.WRonline.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:44 -!- SMP [stefanp@world.WRonline.de] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: SMP_!stefanp@world.WRonline.de))) 20:45 -!- SMP_ is now known as SMP 20:45 < rxr> tsa: seit wann interessiert du dich fuer KDE ? 20:45 < tsa> rxr: ich mich selber gar nicht, ein kollege von der arbeit hatte gesucht und nix dazu gefunden... 20:46 < huebi> tsa: Was bevorzugst du? 20:47 < tsa> huebi: gnome (wovon ich eigentlich nur das panel nutze) mit sawfish, alternativ twm. 20:47 < tsa> statt gnome-panel koennte ich sicher genauso gut auch das kde-panel oder ein anderes nutzen....aber ich hab mich nunmal einfach an gnome gewoehnt.. 20:48 < huebi> Ich benutze Gnome seit ich ROCK Linux auf meinen Rechnern habe. Ich bevorzuge aber KDE. 20:48 < tsa> hehe 20:49 < tsa> ich habe kde das letzte mal als kde 1.x benutzt und fand das scheusslich, seitdem haenge ich bei gnome fest.... 20:49 < tsa> primaer wohl, weil ich keine lust habe, mir 20 verschiedene window-manager irgendwo einzurichten und zu konfigurieren... 20:50 < tsa> <- faul 20:50 < rxr> tsa: kde-1 != kde-2 20:50 < rxr> dazwischen liegen Welten! 20:50 < tsa> rxr: ich weiss.. 20:50 < rxr> KDE-3 ist so "genial" das sogar ich es jetzt genutze ... 20:51 < tsa> ich habe aber derzeit keine lust, mir ein kde3 zu bauen, nur um es mal kurz anzugucken... 20:51 < rxr> neuer KDE-3.0.1 screenshot: https://www.rocklinux.org/projects/drock/drock-screens.html 20:51 < tsa> mal schauen, vielleicht irgendwann mal, wenn der 1.7 build laeuft.. 20:51 < rxr> kopieren von der Digitalen Kamera auf nen anderen Rechner via scp ;-) 20:51 < rxr> und alles im konqueror ... 20:52 < huebi> tsa: Gnome nervt immer mit diesen "wollen sie das wirklich? Das kann doch nicht ihr Ernst sein!" - Fenstern. Die dann noch auf dem falschen Default stehen. Wie bei M$ Windoofs. Ich hasse dass!! 20:52 < tsa> <hint> je schneller ihr den 1.7 tree fixed, desto eher schau ich mir kde 3 an ;-) </hint> 20:52 * clifford is back (gone 00:26:29) 20:52 < tsa> huebi: hm....hab ich hier nicht... 20:52 < fake> clifford: my home... ? 20:52 < netcrow> huebi: hast dir scho mal evilwm angeguckt, da hast kein geklicke ;-( https://evilwm.sf.net 20:53 < fake> tsa: wo liegt deine DTD? 20:53 < fake> :) 20:53 < huebi> tsa: Das war frueher mal viel uebler mit Gnome. 20:53 < tsa> huebi: jupp.. 20:53 < tsa> fake: hm? 20:53 < fake> tsa: deine Document Type Definition von TSAML 20:54 < huebi> netcrow: Jou. So ca vor einem Jahr. Der ist schoen klein. Ich bin aber doch noch ein Maeuseschubser ;-)) 20:54 < tsa> fake: *nixraff* 20:54 < netcrow> hehe 20:54 < fake> tsa: egal.... 20:55 < tsa> *sigh* 20:55 < fake> tsa: XML? 20:55 < fake> hm... 20:57 < tsa> ich nix xml - bin ich webdesigner oda was? ;) 20:59 * fake back in 5 mins (hopefully) 20:59 -!- fake [fake@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has left #rocklinux () 21:03 -!- fake [~fake@p508E374E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:04 < netcrow> re 21:04 < fake> aw. musch better. 21:04 < fake> -s 21:05 -!- netcrow is now known as net|away 21:07 * fake is away: 30mins or s/th 21:29 < holyolli> https://www.dialog.prima.de/bloedeKatze.jpg (the filename says "stupidcat" ;) 21:31 < tsa> rotfl. 21:32 < huebi> lol 21:36 -!- clifford_ [~clifford@M115P011.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 21:36 -!- clifford [~clifford@62.46.0.110] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:37 -!- clifford_ is now known as clifford 21:39 * clifford is away: away 21:39 -!- net|away [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("leaving") 21:41 < tsa> https://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2030233136 <--- irgendwer ne ahnung, was fuer einen anschluss das teil hat? 21:41 < tsa> ich vermute hd15.. 21:43 < huebi> tsa: sieh mal bei sun nach... 21:45 < tsa> huebi: das versuch ich ja schon die ganze zeit...die neue sun webseite ist bloss leider nicht sonderlich intuitiv bedienbar... 21:45 < huebi> sunsolve.sun.de 21:45 < holyolli> tsa: der verkäufer hat noch keine bewertungen 21:46 < huebi> Ich tippe auf 13W3 21:46 < tsa> https://www.sun.com/products-n-solutions/hw/peripherals/monitors.html <- da sind nen paar, aber der richtige ist nicht dabei.. 21:51 < huebi> tsa: https://de.sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/Devices/Monitor/MONITOR_TOC.html 21:51 < huebi> tsa: https://de.sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/Devices/Monitor/MONITOR_Color_21_Prem_Flat_CRT_xena.html 21:56 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p50817EAC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:57 < huebi> tsa: koll! alles Sony Monitore. Die sind klasse. 21:57 < tsa> https://de.sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/Devices/Monitor/MONITOR_Color_21_Prem_Flat_CRT.html <- der da scheint es zu sein.. 21:58 < tsa> ....xena.html sieht nen bissel anders aus.. 21:58 < bluefire> Hat jemand von euch einen Sony GRX318 oder weiß ob und wie Linux da drauf läuft? 21:59 < bluefire> eh... ich meine 316 22:00 < tsa> https://www.monitorworld.com/ 22:00 < tsa> schau da mal.. 22:01 < huebi> urgs! Mit der Kernelkonfiguration muss ich noch mal so richtig bei. Bei 1.5.16 ext2 als Modul.... 22:02 < tsa> sun ist lustig....die wollen 10.000 eur fuer ne ueberholte u60 mit 2x450mhz...ohne monitor. 22:02 < tsa> da kann ich mir nen neues auto von kaufen.. 22:02 < holyolli> .oO(und ich 2 bullis ;) 22:02 < huebi> tsa: eins? 22:02 < SMP> der Vergleich ist nicht besonders wertvoll ;> 22:03 < huebi> SMP: Die Autos haben nicht so einen hohen Wertverlust *g* 22:03 -!- tomik [~tomik@193.109.181.247] has joined #rocklinux 22:03 < SMP> hehe 22:03 < tsa> in der tat.. 22:06 * huebi such mal ein Auto. Taxis sind so nervig... 22:06 < tsa> hm...mit zwei u60 mit je 1x 450mhz kommt man sogar noch besser weg...kosten zusammen 200 eur mehr, dafuer hat man dann noch ne leere kiste, ethernet-karte, 2x 9gb platte, .. 22:06 < tsa> komische preisgestaltung.. 22:07 < tsa> rxr: was macht deine jack-fixerei? schon nen patch fertig? 22:11 < tsa> https://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2031497472 <- *sabber geifer habenwill* ;-) 22:11 < huebi> https://www.autoscout24.de/home/index/detail.asp?id=12775228&sc=&make=13&model=1661&pricefrom=&euroto=&zip=&isPopup=1 <- *sabber geifer habenwill* ;-) 22:12 < tsa> bissel wenig ram.. 22:12 < tsa> ;) 22:12 < huebi> tsa: so 1-2 MB wird der auch haben... 22:14 < tsa> ..und nen Autorenn-Spiel is auch dabei. 22:14 < holyolli> mh? 22:14 < SMP> aber nur mit sehr wenig continues ;> 22:17 < tsa> https://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2031706754 <- falls noch wer guenstig ram fuer seine u5 brauchen sollte.. 22:17 < tsa> hilft mir selber leider nich weiter...ich hab schon 4x 64mb.. 22:25 < huebi> tsa: Das Problem ist, das dieser Speicher einfach alle Steckplaetze blockiert. 22:27 < huebi> https://www.autoscout24.de/home/index/detail.asp?id=12066574&sc=&make=13&model=1661&pricefrom=&euroto=&zip=&isPopup=1 <- Als Autobombe kommt da nur ein bischen Rauch aus den Lueftungsschlitzen ;-)) 22:29 < huebi> hmm. keine Standheizung. Schlecht. 22:36 < rxr> tsa: 1.7 mit gcc-3.1 kompiliert nicht ... 22:37 < rxr> ich warte gerade das Cliff's build da ankommt und wir das endlich fixen koennen ... 22:37 < rxr> (ich sagte ja: das dauert noch ein wenig bis ich da wieder ankomme - bau ruhig ohne Jack weiter ... 22:37 < tsa> ok.. 22:37 < rxr> ) 22:41 * fake is back (gone 01:33:13) 22:48 < aszlig> re 22:48 < aszlig> re fake :) 22:55 -!- sockmonk [~wsheldahl@moose.qx.net] has quit ("Lost terminal") 23:02 -!- Freak [freak@pD9530BB3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("brb") 23:04 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("°ShowDowN v12 PrO° since 1996: https://www.sci.fi/~showdown/") 23:08 -!- Freak [freak@pD9530BB3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:09 -!- d3mian [~john@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 23:09 < tsa> re Freak 23:09 < tsa> hi d3mian 23:10 < d3mian> hi all guys 23:10 < Freak> re 23:15 < d3mian> https://expert.cc.purdue.edu/~jbusby/images/owned%2520buk.jpg 23:17 < Freak> lol 23:35 < rxr> ??? 23:35 < rxr> what's going on here ?!?!? 23:36 < aszlig> ? 23:36 < fake> stop that damn pr0n shit 23:36 < rxr> ACK. 23:37 < aszlig> hmm, pr0n? my client cant handle pr0n ;) 23:37 < holyolli> <aol> /me acks too! </aol> 23:37 < d3mian> why stop?, tsa likes to much 23:37 < d3mian> jk 23:37 < tsa> GRR. 23:37 < tsa> no pr0n in here. 23:37 < fake> ack 23:37 * rxr fetchmailing 23:37 < tsa> this get's logged. 23:37 < tsa> rxr: cron? 23:37 < rxr> tsa: this is your only concern ;-)? 23:38 < d3mian> ok :), i have to leave , cu 23:38 -!- d3mian is now known as d3m|away 23:38 < tsa> rxr: i'm not interested in it, too. 23:38 < rxr> tsa: hm - might be an idea ... 23:38 < rxr> tsa: ACK 23:38 < tsa> i thought it was some funny URL. 23:38 < tsa> */10 * * * * /usr/bin/fetchmail >/dev/null 23:39 < rxr> tsa: I know the cron syntax ;-) Thanks. 23:39 < rxr> I just enabled #gsmp irc-log rsyncing yesterday ... 23:39 < tsa> ah, cool...i always mix up the days stuff.. 23:39 < rxr> you missed the user 23:40 < tsa> nope...this is my personal crontab, not an entry in /etc/cron* 23:40 < rxr> ah ok. 23:41 < holyolli> n8 23:41 < rxr> n8 holyolli 23:41 < tsa> cu holyolli 23:41 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has quit ("X-Chat: its not for the tabkey impaired!") 23:41 < rxr> cu all - I leave too ... 23:42 < rxr> n8 23:43 < tsa> cu rxr 23:43 < fake> cu! 23:43 < tomik> nite 23:44 < rolla> no 23:47 < Freak> no? 23:47 < Freak> want him to stay, huh? ;) 23:47 < rolla> wrong window 23:47 < Freak> hehe 23:47 < Freak> never mind 23:56 < tomik> :) 23:57 -!- d3m|away is now known as d3mian 23:57 < Freak> wb --- Log closed Thu Jun 13 00:00:15 2002