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--- Log opened Wed Jul 31 00:00:19 2002 --- Day changed Wed Jul 31 2002 00:00 < owl> huebi: if i would cook coffee, the people would die! 00:00 < huebi> people. But no real men. 00:01 < tsa> huebi: we could send owl_nude_pics.html to her boss. 00:01 * Mike1 suddenly wants some coffee... 00:01 < owl> huebi: _real men_ what do you mean? 00:01 < tsa> Mike1: no problem. just tell owl to make you some.. 00:02 < tsa> ./topic Worshippers of caffeine 00:02 < tsa> ;-) 00:03 < huebi> owl: This question can only be asked by a woman who does not want to be one. And the answer can never be understood by her 00:03 < owl> huebi: blafasel 00:04 * owl gives everyone who needs caffeine, a pill (coffeinum) 00:04 < tsa> nononono! COFFEE! 00:04 < owl> nonononononono! pill! 00:05 < huebi> owl: What's with your IQ? 00:05 < tsa> wrong again. the pill is something for women. 00:05 < owl> huebi: it's gone. i destroyed it using death metal *vbeg* 00:05 < tsa> [IQ] (iq@chef.nerp.net) : IQ <- there it is. 00:05 < d3mian> Mike1: ill last more time to arrive there, therefore i consider 15:30 to arrive 00:05 < huebi> tsa: I met one how jumped from a 9 stores building and survived. he landed on gras. 00:06 < tsa> uh. 00:06 < owl> huebi: i'm frustrated. fscking install shield/install script is going to kill me. :-/ damn it. 00:07 < huebi> tsa: his feet made 20cm deep holes he told me. 00:07 < owl> *knurr* 00:07 < Mike1> d3mian: sure 00:07 < huebi> owl: better serve coffee. Believe me. It's your real profession. 00:07 < owl> *argh* i will leave you now. bye. 00:07 < Mike1> d3mian: take ur time i have to finish some stuff here anyways 00:08 < huebi> cu owl. 00:08 < huebi> owl: at a cup of coffee 00:08 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5a92.pppool.de] has quit ("back to fscking reality. *argh*") 00:09 < Mike1> lol 00:09 < Mike1> huebi: what was that all about? 00:10 < d3mian> hehe, a friend of mine who fell down from approx. 5 floors (building levels), he survived but now he cant have children. We use to joke all the time about that man 00:10 < esden> ok hopefully the last run for dietlibc target ... so that I can send the first patch chunk ... 00:11 < huebi> Mike1: Owl is a woman. And she does not believe she has to make coffee for men. 00:12 < d3mian> lol 00:13 < Mike1> well who the hell does she think she is? 00:13 < Mike1> *g 00:14 < huebi> Mike1: I could not find out. But that's normal. Women never know what they wnat/are/like/say/believe.... 00:15 < Mike1> true 00:15 < d3mian> she is just a woman!!! they dunt think! (just popular jokes, dunt want to make feel bad anyone) 00:15 < Mike1> huebi: BTW is nice to see you around you have been pretty much away lately 00:16 < huebi> tsa: point 40: Better use NOS to get the car faster. You could also use any non oxigen gas though. 00:16 < Mike1> tsa: NOS is cool, and perhaps you might wanna have some nicotine while you are driving it :) 00:16 * Mike1 j/k 00:17 < tsa> huebi: hehe 00:17 < huebi> Mike1: better no drugs at all while using it. You could miss sth. 00:18 < esden> hmm ... no nicotine ... weet ;-) 00:18 < huebi> <- built some very hot NOS-Engines with up to +1000% performance her in Germany at the NOS-Dirtibutor. 00:18 < huebi> +s 00:18 < Mike1> d3mian: try to get here at 6 if you like 00:18 < Mike1> huebi: very cool!!! 00:19 < huebi> esden: weed is for wimps! NOS makes you awake in an unbelievable way. 00:20 < esden> huebi: sure that is right 00:20 < huebi> Faith will be your best friend with NOS. 00:20 < tsa> good idea, anyway. 00:22 < esden> huebi: for sure 00:23 < huebi> https://www.nitro-olympics.de/ <- Best Dragrace weekend in Europe. 00:24 * tsa smoooking.. 00:27 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50803478.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:27 < chrisime> :-) 00:28 < esden> re chrisime 00:30 < [anders]> *gahen* 00:30 < d3mian> ok Mike1 , re chris , [anders] 00:31 < [anders]> Okay, presents wrapped.. Now time to check up on the stage 3 build of the latest 1.5.17 incarnation.. :) (No worries, no gnome2 stuff in there yet.. 00:31 < [anders]> ) 00:31 < [anders]> yo d3mian - long time no type.. How's things? 00:31 < chrisime> esden: jetzt geht NAT + FW 00:31 < d3mian> fine, thanx, u ok? 00:32 < esden> chrisime: geht bei mir schon seid letzter woche :P 00:32 < [anders]> d3mian: not bad.. starting to get tired now though.. Almost midnight here... and I have to get up at 6am.. 00:32 < chrisime> esden: brauch nur noch DHCP, richtiges BIND (config hab ich unter linux) + adzap 00:32 < [anders]> moin zusammen.. 00:32 < chrisime> esden: und squid 00:32 < esden> chrisime: ja ... mache dann mal schoen ;-) 00:33 < huebi> chrisime: export LAND=en_GB 00:33 < chrisime> das ding rennt recht gut 00:33 < esden> ich habe keinen squid ... brauche ich auch nicht 00:33 < chrisime> esden: ist goettlich 00:33 < huebi> esden: you too 00:33 < chrisime> esden: ein zusaetzlicher firewall dingsbums ;) 00:34 < huebi> chrisime: proxy. 00:34 < esden> chrisime: nicht wirklich ... nur ein weiterer klump der nervt 00:34 < esden> proxy's sucken nur 00:34 < chrisime> huebi: yupp 00:34 < tsa> en_US! 00:34 < chrisime> esden: schmarrn 00:34 < esden> sorry 00:34 < chrisime> esden: das toil is goil 00:34 < chrisime> ;) 00:34 < chrisime> oops 00:34 < [anders]> sv_SE ? 00:35 < esden> chrisme is always switching to german ... and i switch automatically too 00:35 < esden> sorry guys 00:35 < [anders]> Inga problem att snacka svenska, men kan bli lite ensamt eftersom inte så många kan det språket i den här kanalen.. :) 00:35 < chrisime> blah 00:35 < esden> chrisime: :P 00:35 < esden> hehe 00:35 < chrisime> dummerle 00:36 < esden> [anders]: hmpf ... ok i now know how you feel when we talk german 00:36 < [anders]> esden: Inga problem, jag ska sköta mig.. :) 00:37 < [anders]> esden: No problem, I will behave myself.. :) 00:37 < esden> [anders]: I will also try to behave ... 00:38 < [anders]> I know how easy it is for you guys to slip in to german, especially as a majority of the people on here speaks german... It is a little irritating sometimes however.. 00:38 < chrisime> i do understand bits of that swedish whatever stuff :P 00:39 < [anders]> chrisime: where did you learn it? 00:39 < d3mian> setenv LANG SW 00:39 < [anders]> d3mian: swahili? 00:39 < d3mian> yes :) 00:40 < chrisime> [anders]: it's too similar to german 00:40 < chrisime> that's why 00:40 < chrisime> + i worked for IKEA some time ago ;P 00:40 < d3mian> pero el espanol cambia bastante con respecto al ingles, aleman o sueco 00:40 < [anders]> chrisime: It is.. German and Swedish has lots in common, apart from the fact you guys stick the verb right at the end of the sentences.. 00:41 < [anders]> d3mian: me no habla espanol, amigo.. 00:41 < tsa> hm...tengo que apprender sueco, mejor 00:41 < chrisime> [anders]: yeah, confusing, huh ;) 00:41 < [anders]> chrisime: well, at IKEA you should get exposed to the lingo from time to time.. :) 00:41 < d3mian> tsa: :) 00:41 < tsa> algo mas que necesito? 00:42 < tsa> aleman, ingles, espanol 00:42 < [anders]> suede 00:42 < d3mian> i like to hear tsa speaking in spanish, that's no common here 00:43 < Mike1> tsa: você falas portugues? 00:44 < tsa> d3mian: para mi no hay problema, pero pienso esden o huebi nos van a mar 00:44 < tsa> Mike1: no. 00:44 < [anders]> d3mian: but for us poor souls that has either not studied spanish, or have forgotten most of it (ir - voy vas van, vamos vais van - or thereabouts..) - it isn't easy.. 00:44 < tsa> matar 00:44 < d3mian> je parle french too 00:44 < tsa> arrrgh 00:45 < tsa> need common LANG setting. please advise. 00:45 < [anders]> en_US 00:45 < d3mian> #define LANG en_US 00:45 < tsa> ok. 00:45 < [anders]> Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" 00:45 < [anders]> Option "XkbModel" "pc104" 00:45 < [anders]> Option "XkbLayout" "en_US" 00:45 < [anders]> Option "XkbVariant" "pc104" 00:45 < tsa> so now we could even talk to each other _and_ understand. 00:45 < [anders]> *g* 00:46 < tsa> hehe 00:46 < Mike1> export lang=sw_SW 00:46 < [anders]> Mike1: oh no you don't.. :) 00:46 < Mike1> [anders]: hehe 00:46 < Mike1> :) 00:46 < d3mian> :) 00:46 < chrisime> i don't get a 'oe' with that setting 00:47 < chrisime> øæ 00:47 < chrisime> ß 00:47 < [anders]> chrisime: Compose - a - o = å 00:47 < [anders]> chrisime: Compose - o - " = ö 00:48 < chrisime> were's compose again 00:48 < chrisime> the window flag key 00:49 < huebi> are 5.5MB/s a normal speed for a 16x DVD-ROM? 00:49 < chrisime> i think i said no deadkeys 00:49 < chrisime> or wsomething 00:49 < [anders]> chrisime: the Xkb settings above force nodeadkeys set.. 00:50 < [anders]> my compose key is set to Shift + AltGr.. 00:50 < chrisime> doesn't work 00:50 < chrisime> æ 00:50 < chrisime> Æ 00:50 < chrisime> Ø 00:51 < [anders]> --(anders@alien)-[1482]-[Tue Jul 30 23:50:56]-(~)-- 00:51 < [anders]> $ cat .Xmodmap 00:51 < [anders]> keycode 13 = 4 dollar currency onequarter 00:51 < [anders]> keycode 59 = comma less aring Aring 00:51 < [anders]> keycode 60 = period greater adiaeresis Adiaeresis 00:51 < [anders]> keycode 61 = slash question odiaeresis Odiaeresis 00:51 < [anders]> keycode 113 = Mode_switch Multi_key 00:51 < [anders]> add mod3 = Multi_key 00:51 < [anders]> => Shift + AltGr = Compose 00:51 < chrisime> i hate xmodmap 00:51 < chrisime> thx 00:52 < [anders]> xmodmap is alright.. it takes some to get used to however.. I have been trying to get this to work for weeks... and it took me about 30 seconds tonight jsut because I am tired probably.. 00:53 < chrisime> i did it one time, but i forgot it again 00:53 < chrisime> brb 00:53 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50803478.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 00:55 < [anders]> Mike1: still building the stage 3.. I had to tweak the gnome-applets package to get that working.. it didn't like being built make -j2 apperantly.. 00:55 -!- codeq [dennis@pD9EB7B44.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 00:56 < Mike1> [anders]: i see 00:56 < Mike1> [anders]: BTW is got your email Tack så mycket! 00:57 < [anders]> Tomorrow I should be able to start adding things into the tree and see if it builds.. I wonder if this type of environment could be used to build security updates that could be made available on the web somewhere....? 00:57 < [anders]> Mike1: Var så god! :) 00:57 < [anders]> Mike1: didn't know you were speaking swedish.. :) 00:58 < d3mian> da u do it Mike1 ? 00:58 < Mike1> [anders]: cool but please wait for me to finish my changes tonight 01:00 < [anders]> Mike1: no sweat.. do you want me to tar up my private tree and e-mail it to you? 01:01 < Mike1> d3mian: sure, Jag talar engelska, franska, tyska, svenska och spanska. 01:01 < [anders]> And he sure knows his swedish.. :) 01:01 < Mike1> [anders]: no way! we can use rsync :) 01:02 < [anders]> Err.. /me not very familiar with rsync.. 01:02 -!- codeq [dennis@pD9EB7B44.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:02 < codeq> re 01:02 < Mike1> [anders]: no worry i am :) 01:02 < Mike1> i can teach you 01:02 < [anders]> heh 01:02 < Mike1> mom 01:03 < [anders]> good stuff... if you e-mail me the instructions.. I'll read through and work on it tomorrow yeah? I have to go bed now.. past midnight here and I am getting up in six hours.. 01:03 < Mike1> [anders]: just give me one minute please 01:03 < [anders]> ok 01:06 * d3mian leaving 01:06 < [anders]> Mmhmm.. 2.4.19-rc3-ac5 is available now.. 01:10 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@80.128.52.120] has joined #rocklinux 01:12 < tsa> <- going to sleep. 01:12 < tsa> cu all 01:12 < tsa> *gaehn* 01:12 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9525473.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 01:14 < esden> ok mail sent to clifford ... 01:15 < esden> now off to get stage 2 compiling 01:15 < [anders]> who was it that was interested in new 2.4.19 patches? it was someone in here... 01:15 < esden> hmm but first sync with the new snap 01:17 < [anders]> esden: /me has a patch against CVS to fix build order of several things and to proof one package against make -jN where N>1 01:19 < esden> but it is the 1.5 tree ... right ? 01:19 < [anders]> esden: correctamundo.. 01:20 < h0h0> is that supposed to be a fake spanish word? 01:21 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p50816C3F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:22 < [anders]> h0h0: nyet.. only a funny one... ;-) 01:23 < h0h0> what? 01:23 < [anders]> nyet = no in russian.. 01:23 < [anders]> can also be spelled njet depending on who you ask.. :) 01:23 < h0h0> hmm 01:23 < Mike1> God natt [anders] 01:23 < [anders]> God natt Mike1, sov gott när du nu kryper i säng.. :) 01:24 < [anders]> guten nacht alles.. I'm tired and off to bed now.. ~~~ 01:27 < huebi> good night [anders] 01:31 -!- frederic_ [~hannes@217.2.182.24] has joined #rocklinux 01:42 < chrisime> esden: https://stats.distributed.net/participant/phistory.php?project_id=5&id=262878 01:42 < chrisime> esden: die mac's sind effektiv ;) 01:49 < esden> hmm ... 01:49 < chrisime> :P 01:49 < chrisime> >3000 am tag 01:49 < esden> ohhja man sieht es 01:52 < chrisime> esden: wo gibts nen apacge 01:52 < chrisime> apacge 01:52 < chrisime> apache 01:52 * chrisime krise! 01:54 < esden> an apache ... what for ? 01:55 < Mike1> anyone has experience with UML ? 01:55 -!- frederic [~hannes@pD902B785.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:56 < chrisime> Mike1: yo! 01:56 -!- frederic_ is now known as frederic 01:56 < chrisime> esden: wei lich den brauch?! 01:56 < Mike1> chrisime Can i use egcs64 to build user-mode-linux(which contains some userspace and some kernelspace code) 01:56 < Mike1> 64-bit on Ultrasparc? 01:57 < chrisime> oh 01:57 < chrisime> i thought universal modelling language 01:57 < chrisime> unified or whatever 01:57 < Mike1> chrisime: oh :( ok 01:58 < chrisime> Mike1: UML == UML not some linux stuff :P 01:58 * Mike1 needs [anders] :(( and he went to bed 01:58 < Mike1> chrisime: its ok 01:58 < chrisime> heh 02:00 < esden> Mike1: can I ask you what you want to do with uml ? and why you want to compile it with egcs ? 02:00 < esden> i mean on sparc ? 02:01 < esden> are you running a e10k that has nothing to do ? ;-) 02:01 < huebi> good night. See you tomorrow. 02:01 < Mike1> esden: gcc3 has still some problems with the linker 02:01 < esden> n8 huebi 02:01 < Mike1> n8 huebi 02:02 < esden> Mike1: yes ... gcc3.2 should be out really soon ... if i am right 02:02 < Mike1> and as i said before just need to build user-mode-linux containing some user space and kernel space 64bit code on a Ultrasparc 02:03 < Mike1> so while gcc3.2 comes out what should i compiler should i use? 02:03 < esden> aha ok ... (still no idea what for ... ) 02:03 < esden> Mike1: no idea ... /me not sparc 02:04 < Mike1> esden: :((((( 02:04 * Mike1 sad 02:04 < esden> but I think egcs is currently the choice 02:06 < Mike1> ok thank you very much master esden 02:06 < Mike1> :) 02:07 < esden> denada 02:09 < Mike1> nice spanish there 02:13 < esden> where *lookaround* 02:14 -!- frederic [~hannes@217.2.182.24] has quit ("leaving") 02:17 < Mike1> lol 02:29 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@80.128.52.120] has quit ("leaving") 02:43 < Mike1> d3mian: !!! 02:57 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD90485C2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 03:33 < esden> hmm ... 03:34 < Mike1> whats up? 03:34 -!- Mike1 is now known as Mike-d3mian 03:41 * -> esden fighting 03:41 < esden> humm 03:50 < esden> god is this ill ... 03:50 < esden> hmm ... I think that now I can say that all software is real crap ... >_< 03:50 < esden> terrible 03:52 < esden> I can now walk over the place with a t-shirt ... "This is esden and he thinks that _ALL_ software is _REAL_ bullshit" 04:01 < fake> WOW! 04:01 < fake> <- thrilled 04:02 < esden> hi fake 04:02 < esden> fake: wow ??? 04:02 < fake> esden: if you ever by chance come by the movie "Im Fadenkreuz" WATCH IT!!!!! 04:02 < esden> ok will do 04:03 < fake> it's about a _real_ incidence (i didn't know that until the end) 04:03 < fake> remember the 2 NATO pilots that were shot down in bosnien-herzegowina? 04:03 < esden> yes ... 04:03 < fake> it's their story 04:04 < esden> urgh 04:04 < esden> cool 04:04 < fake> it's really...... real. 04:04 < esden> must be very interesting 04:04 < fake> there were two ppl in the jet that was shot down 04:04 < fake> both stayed alive after the crash 04:05 < fake> 1 was injured, so the other ( the navigator ) tried to use his radio from some place further up 04:05 < fake> but he had to watch the pilot being shot into the head by the serbic army... 04:05 < esden> autsh 04:06 < fake> das is so derb 04:06 < fake> dann sagt dem sein vorgesetzter er holt ihn raus, und grade so schafft er es zu dem pick-up-punkt 04:07 < fake> .... als er ankommt, bekommt der commandante die rettungsaktion verboten, weil er den luftraum nicht verletzen darf 04:07 < esden> no toll 04:08 < fake> dann soll er sich in "gesichertes gebiet" begeben - wo er mal nicht von snipern und granaten, sondern von panzern und mgs belaestigt wird 04:08 < fake> da tauscht er dann die uniform mit der eines serbischen soldaten 04:08 < fake> daher kam die meldung dass beide soldaten tot seien (im fernsehen) 04:08 < esden> aja ... weiter ... 04:09 < fake> die serben wussten aber dass er nicht tot ist, wollten ihn nur spaeter aus dem weg schaffen 04:10 < fake> weil sein fungeraet im arsch ist, schlaegt er sich dann ( nach einer weiteren, wegen der totmeldung abgeblasenen rettungsaktion ) zum not-ausstieg-pilotensessel durch 04:10 < fake> und aktiviert das "blip" von dem teil 04:10 < fake> sein vorgesetzter hat ja bis dahin auch gedacht das er tot is 04:10 < fake> und in dem sessel sind die fotos, die sie gemacht haben, bevor sie abgeschossen wurden 04:10 < fake> von so graebern von nem Voelkermord... 04:11 < fake> ( natuerlich alles digital ) 04:11 < esden> schoen ... und dann die daten geloescht ... oder ? 04:11 < fake> natuerlich nicht. die serben wussten ja nicht wo die gesperichert wurden. 04:11 < esden> aso .. ok 04:11 < fake> und den sessel hatten sie noch nicht gefunden 04:12 < fake> dann entledigt er sich anhand eines geilen tricks des letzten sniperers 04:12 < fake> ... nur um dann festzustellen, dass weitere 3 Panzer und ein Regiment Infanterie bereistand... 04:12 < fake> ach.... 04:12 < fake> den muess ma uns mal geben ;-) 04:13 < esden> toll ... ... sisyfus arbeit ... 04:13 < esden> ja muss ich mir anschauen unbedingt 04:13 < fake> esden: was isn dieser scheiss call_admin.sh ? 04:14 < esden> fake: frage mich nicht ... irgendein scheiss dsl dreck vom anton >_< 04:14 < fake> hm.... nervig 04:14 < esden> ja auf jeden fall 04:14 < esden> aber als ich gemerkt habe das ich es bekomme war es so spaet das ich den anton nicht mehr anrufen wollte 04:15 < fake> das wunder der email - fuer keine partei zeitlich bindend 04:16 * fake wirft noch den build an, raucht eine und geht dann knacken 04:16 < esden> ja ... wenn bingo ne firma waehre haette ich keine bedenken den anton aus dem bett zu holen ... >_< 04:16 < esden> fake: wie weit und womit bist du jetzt ? 04:17 < fake> esden: rock 1.7 latest, ia32, so gut wie durch 04:17 < esden> asoo ... viele fixes ? 04:17 < fake> das ander zeuch bin ich noch nich zu gekommen - hab die letzten 2 tage nur kiste aufgeraeumt 04:18 < fake> esden: noch kein einziger - ausser netpbm, aber das is schon wieder 2 releases her 04:18 < esden> aja ... 04:18 < esden> ich habe heute einen monsterpatch fuer dietlibc target an cliff geschickt ... 04:19 < fake> kewl ;) 04:19 < esden> und jetzt veruche ich noch mit stage 2 von dem dietilbc target zu kaempfen 04:19 < fake> was is andas? 04:19 < Mike-d3mian> esden: <esden> hmm ... I think that now I can say that all software is real crap ... >_< 04:19 < Mike-d3mian> ???? 04:19 < esden> ist echt uferlos 04:19 < Mike-d3mian> wie gets fake? 04:19 < fake> danke, nach 2 bier laessts sichs aushalten! @Mike-d3mian 04:19 < esden> Mike-d3mian: fighting with software that sould compile on dietlibc ... but the software is so crappy ... o 04:20 < esden> fake: *rofl* 04:20 < Mike-d3mian> esden: i see 04:20 * fake wonders wether he got that 04:21 < esden> fake: du bist sooo fiesss ;-) 04:21 < fake> *nargf* how many of those annoying sysmails are there gonna come? 04:21 < esden> maaaaany ;-) 04:21 * fake kicks antotn 04:21 < fake> -t 04:22 < fake> esden: looks like very ten minutes 04:22 < esden> antotn ... hmm sounds good ;-) 04:22 < esden> yes seems so 04:22 < fake> every 04:22 < fake> makes 6 per hour 04:22 < esden> hmm ... Ralf Baechle writing to the mips mailinglist 04:22 < esden> they are really active there in the last time ... 04:23 < fake> that gives us approximately 4*6 = 24 until anton gets up 04:23 < fake> esden: lots of r4k patches and fixes *happy* 04:23 < esden> i am happy for you too ... 04:23 < Mike-d3mian> fake: got a beer for me? 04:23 < Mike-d3mian> me = Mike 04:23 < esden> but when will you continue your work on mips ? 04:24 < fake> Mike-d3mian: of course. Erdinger Weissbier, brewed in Munich, bought in Munich, drunk in Munich ;-) 04:24 < Mike-d3mian> fake: lol 04:24 * fake is in Munich 04:24 < Mike-d3mian> fake: i sort of realized that 04:24 < fake> he-he. 04:24 < esden> fake: have not accidently not forgot to ask nos ? 04:25 < fake> esden: not accidently. i forgot it like i told you XD 04:25 < esden> *seufz* 04:25 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.137] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Nickname Enforcement))) 04:25 < fake> ask _him_ _NOT_ me. 04:26 < fake> <- whined in the NWN Forum today 04:26 < esden> i know ... i will call him tomorrow ... >_< 04:26 -!- Mike-d3mian is now known as d3mian 04:26 < d3mian> hi guys 04:26 < fake> hi d3mian ! 04:26 < esden> hi d3mian 04:27 < esden> fake: wheenee 04:27 < fake> esden: i said: gimme the source and i stop whining ;-) 04:27 < esden> hehe ;-) 04:27 < fake> hm... maybe even less than 10 minutes? 04:27 < esden> you will port it by yourself ;-) 04:28 < fake> esden: of course. if there's source, there's a way. 04:28 < esden> yes sure ... even if the source sux like the source I fight currently with ... >_< 04:29 < fake> you are looking into netscape? *g* 04:29 -!- Mike1 [~mike@mail.costarica.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:29 < Mike1> re 04:29 < fake> re Mike1 04:29 < Mike1> :) 04:29 < esden> re Mike1 04:29 < fake> hm... esden: will the next mai lcome at :31 or :36 ? 04:29 < fake> let's net 04:29 < fake> s,net,bet 04:30 < fake> i say 36 04:30 < esden> i say 32 04:30 < fake> hehe. 04:30 < Mike1> 34 04:30 < fake> what do we bet about? 04:31 < fake> Mike1: you're out. you cheat. 04:31 < Mike1> esdens alpha :) 04:31 < esden> argh 04:31 < fake> algebraic middles are for cheaters ;P 04:31 < esden> I like powers of 2 04:32 < fake> hm... about a beer? 04:32 < esden> no beer here :-( 04:32 < esden> only sleepness 04:33 < fake> nah, you lost anyways 04:33 < fake> it's already :33 04:33 < fake> (apollo-time ;-) 04:34 * d3mian rebooting 04:34 -!- d3mian [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit ("Client Exiting") 04:34 < Mike1> thats my MACHINE damn it!! 04:35 < fake> hehe 04:35 < fake> Mike1 lost, too ;-) 04:35 < fake> so the only possible remaining winner is... me! 04:35 < fake> what did we bet about? 1k EUR? 04:35 < fake> fine! 04:35 < esden> urgh 04:35 < Mike1> fake no i didnt lose :) 04:35 < fake> it's :35 apollo time 04:36 < fake> and all important times are measured in apollo time, thus you loose ;P 04:36 < Mike1> <fake> Mike1: you're out. 04:36 < Mike1> :P 04:36 < fake> nah. i thought i'd do you a favor and let you take part - in case you loose ;)) 04:37 < fake> <- lost, too ? 04:37 < esden> seems so ... 04:37 < Mike1> lol 04:37 < fake> hm.. 15 mins? would make it :41 04:38 < esden> it can also be that anton fixed it ... 04:38 < fake> anyways, i'm off - sleep well 04:38 < Mike1> n8 fake 04:38 < fake> thanks =D 04:38 < esden> n8 fake 04:38 < esden> sleep well 04:38 -!- Mike2 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 04:38 < fake> you too 04:39 -!- Mike2 is now known as d3mian 04:39 < Mike1> WTF!! 04:39 < d3mian> re 04:39 < Mike1> grrr 04:39 < d3mian> hehe 04:39 < esden> hurgh ? 04:39 < esden> d3mian: do not mess up everything on the bok of Mike1 04:39 < Mike1> esden d3mian is here with me 04:39 < d3mian> yep 04:39 < esden> Mike1: poor boy *evil_grin* 04:40 < d3mian> hehe 04:40 < Mike1> lol 04:40 < Mike1> esden but no worries he wants u 04:40 < Mike1> :) 04:40 < d3mian> ehh? 04:41 -!- codeq [dennis@pD9EB7B44.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("no route to host") 04:41 < esden> meee ??? *run* 04:43 < d3mian> what da you mean Mike1? 04:43 * Mike1 esden who's that phone esden ? 04:43 < Mike1> oops 04:43 < Mike1> d3mian jk 04:43 < d3mian> :) 04:44 < esden> hmm ... 04:45 < d3mian> is there a way to trap a SIGINT with a shell script ? 04:45 < esden> yes sure ... look in the scripts of rocklinux 04:45 < esden> ;-) 04:46 < Mike1> or fell free to call clifford and ask him 04:46 < Mike1> he will probably feel free to drop the phone in ur fac 04:46 < Mike1> +e 04:46 < Mike1> :P 04:46 < d3mian> what is his phone? 04:46 < esden> i think clifford would kill him ... 04:46 < d3mian> well, i know Mike1 will lend me his phone to call him 04:47 < Mike1> esden if you to call clifford or ripclaw during quality sleep time who would u prefer to call? 04:47 < Mike1> sure 04:47 < Mike1> d3mian ip phone rulez 04:47 < Mike1> :) 04:47 < esden> hmm ... none of them ... 04:48 < Mike1> esden hehe 04:48 < d3mian> i dunt want to deep in scripts, which of them trap the signal?, or gimme a clue to do a grep! 04:49 < Mike1> grep <option> what-you-need scripts/* 04:49 * Mike1 hehe :P 04:49 < d3mian> argg 04:50 * -> esden on the way 04:50 < Mike1> ? 04:52 < esden> found_error() { 04:52 < esden> echo "Command returned exit status $?." 04:52 < esden> exit 1 04:52 < esden> } 04:52 < esden> trap 'found_error' ERR 04:52 < esden> set -e # just paranoia 04:52 < esden> 04:52 < esden> trap 'echo "Got SIGIN (Crtl-C). Aborting build." ; exit 1' INT 04:52 < esden> exec < /dev/null 04:53 < d3mian> umm, nice 04:53 < esden> hehe ... I love clifford's paranoia 04:53 < d3mian> :) 04:54 < esden> d3mian: is that what you were searching for ? 04:54 < Mike1> esden you are evil d3mian is trying to blow my machine!! 04:55 < d3mian> yep 04:55 -!- zman_ [~zman@66.169.53.138] has joined #rocklinux 04:55 < Mike1> esden will u help me kick d3mian's GEIL ass if he fucks anything?? 04:56 < Mike1> hallo zman_ 04:56 < zman_> hi Mike1 04:56 < zman_> just listening tonight 04:56 < esden> Mike1: ohh ... sorry ... >_< 04:57 < Mike1> zman_ ? 04:57 < esden> hi zman_ 04:57 < zman_> hi esden 04:57 < esden> hmm ... I will have to go sleeping now ... 04:57 < d3mian> Mike1: if you try to close to me, be sure, ill do a: mike@alicia:~/projects/ROCK/rock-1.5$rm -rf . 04:58 * -> esden needs now some sleep badly ... /me hacked the last 15 hours ... and before that i had to stend that heat ... >_< 04:58 < esden> terrible 04:59 < Mike1> esden so go get some sleep 04:59 < d3mian> oh oh, Mike1, do you have a back up of ur rock stuff ? 04:59 < esden> hmm ... will do ... will do 04:59 < Mike1> d3mian depends, do u have a backup of ur life? 04:59 * -> esden packing stuff together 04:59 < d3mian> :( 05:00 * Mike1 looking for his shotgun 05:00 * d3mian is preparing its knife!! 05:00 * Mike1 drops esden to d3mian 05:02 < esden> *ruaaaaarrrr* *bite_d3mian* *chew* *chew* *chew* *chew* *chew* *chew* *chew* 05:03 * Mike1 getting ready to go home 05:03 < Mike1> esden hehe 05:03 * Mike1 *ROTL* 05:03 < d3mian> LOL 05:03 < esden> ok ... I go home now ... cu guys 05:03 < Mike1> esden me too nacht 05:03 < d3mian> cu esden 05:04 -!- Mike1 [~mike@mail.costarica.net] has quit ("[BX] Life is like BitchX. Ya never know what yer gunna git.") 05:04 < esden> good night alltogether 05:07 -!- d3mian [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit ("Client Exiting") 05:10 -!- d3mian_ [~demian@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 05:10 -!- d3mian_ is now known as d3mian 05:10 < d3mian> cu too 05:12 -!- zman_ [~zman@66.169.53.138] has quit ("Client Exiting") 05:20 -!- EpA [~epaphus@nat1.amnet.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 05:20 -!- EpA [~epaphus@nat1.amnet.co.cr] has left #rocklinux () 08:31 < huebi> moin 10:19 -!- rxr_away_ [~rene@port-213-20-128-150.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:36 -!- rxr_away [~rene@port-212-202-172-253.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10:39 < [anders]> *gahen!* 10:39 < [anders]> moin zusammen 10:41 -!- Netsplit sendak.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: SMP 10:42 -!- Netsplit sendak.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: h0h0 10:42 -!- Netsplit over, joins: SMP 10:42 -!- Netsplit over, joins: h0h0 10:46 < huebi> moin [anders] 10:57 < [anders]> huebi: I overslept this morning.. didn't get up until about 7:15 and then I waited for the gf to get ready and dropped her off at work.,. I am usually in at work before 8am, today I didn't get in until 9:35.. 10:59 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p508171E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:59 < huebi> [anders]: o_O 10:59 < huebi> moin bluefire 10:59 < bluefire> Hellihello ;) 11:00 < [anders]> huebi: x_x more like it... 11:00 < [anders]> I am looking forward to the espresso coffee this morning so I can wake up a bit. 11:01 < huebi> I add some missing programs for SCSI devices to 1.5.17, look for updated pqackages like qt and start a new build later. 11:01 < huebi> [anders]: owl isn't around here. Bad luck. She could make some coffee *g* 11:02 < [anders]> huebi: ok.. I'll pull CVS and make some patches in a bit.. 11:03 < huebi> [anders]: nice. 11:04 < [anders]> Hmm.. I should probably send you a patch with the updated build sequence for some of the gnome packages.. 11:04 < huebi> [anders]: What do you want to do with Gnome2? Do you want to put it now into cvs or later, when the packages for it are finished? 11:05 < huebi> [anders]: yep, send me the patch. I put it into cvs then. 11:08 < [anders]> huebi: I spoke with Mike1 yesterday about this and he and I are going to co-operate on getting it working. I think we should concentrate on getting 1.6.0 ready and released and then get 1.6.1 out shortly afterwards with Gnome2 in it. Getting gnome2 into 1.5.17 now would be nice, but there are space issue to consider as well as the fact it is a rather big change 11:09 < huebi> (Nice. only 27 degrees in my room today) 11:09 < huebi> [anders]: ACK 11:09 < [anders]> with Gnome2 you can replace perhaps half of Gnome 1.4 with it, but the libraries and some of the packages from Gnome 1.4 will still be needed to build gtk+ 1.x stuff.. 11:10 < [anders]> And you are talking about 250MB+ stuff of Gnome2 things when installed.. the base+opt ISO is already nudging on 700MB.. 11:10 < huebi> [anders]: and there are more issues to solve like the boot CDs, kernel configuration for all architectures, and the space issue. 11:10 < [anders]> Perhaps we should also into 1.6.1 incorporate the dRock feature of installing from two CD's ? 11:11 < [anders]> or even three CD's.. Once we have that feature we should be able to do a lot more with Rock 1.6.x 11:12 < [anders]> <- afk - coffee 11:12 < huebi> I want to solve the space issue with a modified linux-src(no whole sourectree in there. Instead of that only a build script for the tree.) and XFree86 package (no documentation anymore) and I will move rfc to ext. 11:13 * huebi getting coffee, too. 11:19 < huebi> got it ;-) 11:39 * [anders] is back, fueled up with caffeine and running a port glitching test on an experimental build at work.. 11:40 -!- hoho [~hoho@3ffe:80ee:7c6:0:0:0:0:fe] has joined #rocklinux 11:42 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@3ffe:80ee:7c6:0:0:0:0:fe] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:44 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p508171E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:52 -!- rxr_away [~rene@port-212-202-168-230.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:04 -!- rxr_away_ [~rene@port-213-20-128-150.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12:20 -!- th [th@rocklinux.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:20 < th> re 12:26 < snyke> hi th 12:31 < huebi> moin th 12:34 < th> jo hi 12:38 < [anders]> huebi: anders.patches.1.5.17.020731.tbz2 uploaded, as is the md5 file. take a peek at it and let me know if they makes sense. :) 12:39 < huebi> an jo, I do so. 12:39 < huebi> [anders]: jo, I do so. 12:48 < [anders]> huebi: okidoki.. I will probably go though building stage 3 again now then. I wanna make sure it builds and works before doing any Gnome2 stuff.. 12:49 < [anders]> huebi: oh, and I have regressed gettext in that patch-set. 0.10.40 is required for Gnome2. Once Gnome2 builds on later versions, I'll send you a patch progressing the version used of gettext again. 12:49 < [anders]> you don't have to use that patch, but my builds will be using that version of gettext... 13:11 < [anders]> huebi: could you take a look at the openssl.pz.patch and if you agree with it, apply it to teh CVS repository at earliest convenient.. 13:12 < [anders]> I have just uploaded it and only just found it 13:12 < huebi> [anders]: Jo. 13:15 < [anders]> I have tested it myself (not built it though) and it downloads and converts to bz2 fine.. 13:26 < [anders]> just fired off another stage 3 build. Should see later tonight or tomorrow morning how it goes.. It should build fine.. 14:23 < [anders]> It is a bit quiet in here today, isn't it.. Is everybody hung over or just busy with work/school? :) 14:24 < huebi> [anders]: I cleaned my desk and I'm now reading news. 14:25 < [anders]> huebi: I've been testing/building things here at work trying to a) track down an elusive bug and b) to try and get a new build out to testers today.. :) 14:25 * th is just in a very bad mood. 14:26 * [anders] hands th a cup of tea and a biscuit in the hope it will make th feel a little better.. 14:27 < th> i'm afraid that can't help a bit :-/ 14:27 < th> thanks anyway 14:28 < huebi> th: So what can help you? 14:28 < [anders]> th: sorry to hear you are having a bad day, anything we can do? 14:29 < th> thanks guys. but you can't help. /me is having worst days of my live. trouble with my girlfriend. 14:30 < [anders]> th: I know the feeling.. I had several weeks of that just before the separation from my wife.. 14:31 < th> i can't eat. i can't sleep. i have no fun in hacking :-( 14:31 < [anders]> th: yep.. and until the trouble with your gf is sorted it will not really change.. 14:32 < [anders]> there is nothing really I can tell you that will cheer you up in this situation.. 14:33 < th> she wanted some separation for a week or two. to think about her feelings to me. 14:33 < huebi> I found only two days ago a first solution with my wife for our problems we have. 14:34 < th> had her in my arms yesterday. then i had to say goodbye. waiting to hear something from her is a torture. 14:34 < huebi> Separation is _no_ solution for us because we both want to be there for our daughter. 14:35 < [anders]> huebi: in my case the separation was agreed to because it would mean less friction and less chance of things turning sour.. 14:36 < [anders]> And also, the love had gone.. There is very little dto do when that happens.. 14:36 < huebi> th: perhaps you can call her and talk to her over this longer distance. For me that helped to find out the real problems and a solution for them 14:37 < th> huebi: no. no communication at all. i must not call her. we had a weekend relationship where telephone was our major communication 14:37 < th> so it would be no separation with phoning her 14:38 < th> the problem is - things go so slow if you have no fun. 14:38 < huebi> [anders]: Love is feeling that must be taken care of. Like a small plant that will die if you don't give it some water and light. 14:40 < huebi> th: OK. Then an other idea is to meditate aboub what you for yourself - only for yourself - really want. And what is good for you. And then go for it without any doubt. 14:42 < th> huebi: i really want to get her back in my arms. i want to hear her car approaching. i want to see her 14:42 < th> huebi: all i want is not possible ATM 14:43 < th> i'm really really afraid to get her final goodbye. 14:44 < [anders]> huebi: I know that, not so easy when forced to work far from home because wife is spending money faster than I could earn it. Travelling home every weekend was not possible as I would have become so tired I could not have done my work properly and probably would have got fired.. 14:45 < [anders]> love needs to be cared for and nurtured by both sides, not just one side... 14:45 < huebi> [anders]: ACK. 14:47 < [anders]> I did try and provide a better life for my family by moving to Sweden, but was forced to carry on working in UK to try and pay of the debt my wife had run up. And that was what broke the marriage completely. I was never home as I was trng hard to pay the debts and meanwhile she was busy creating new debt with the phone.. 14:49 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:49 < huebi> moin Ge0rG 14:49 < [anders]> moin Ge0rG , wie gehts? 14:51 * Ge0rG ist eigentlich gar nicht da ;( 14:51 < Ge0rG> ;) 14:53 < huebi> [anders]: If I look at the cost of a family, how much money I have to spend for it, then it's allway a bad deal. Luckily my wife does not spend more money than I earn. But to get woken up in the morning after only 4h of sleep by my daughter who wants to play with me is really worth it. 14:54 < [anders]> huebi: I really really miss my daughter, but I would still not get to see her more often than I do now.. Perhaps in ten years time I would have... 14:55 < [anders]> Perhaps with the way things are now, I will be able to afford to take two weeks holiday now and then and I get to see her 24/7. As things were, I could not have done that.. 14:56 < rolla> re 14:56 < huebi> moin rolla 14:57 < rolla> how are you doing huebi ? 14:58 < huebi> fine. And hungry. Time for lunch it's 14:58 here 14:58 -!- rxr_away_ [~rene@port-212-202-168-230.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:58 < rolla> where is here ? 14:59 < huebi> Germany 14:59 < huebi> Frankfurt 14:59 -!- Ge0rG is now known as ge0rg 14:59 < rolla> cool :0 14:59 < rolla> it is breakfest time here 15:01 -!- rxr_away [~rene@port-212-202-168-230.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:03 < rolla> who is the main drock maintainer ? 15:03 < [anders]> rolla: Rene Rebe (rxr) 15:03 < rolla> okay 15:03 < huebi> rxr_away but he is in Denmark on vacation. 15:04 * [anders] figures that a family is the fastest way to both happiness and heartache.. Probably both at the same time.. 15:04 < rolla> great 15:04 < rolla> I pulled down newest version and it cannot find files already :( 15:13 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@faim.Physik.Uni-Augsburg.DE] has joined #rocklinux 15:15 < hackbard> hi again 15:20 < huebi> Hallo hackbard. How are you? 15:22 < hackbard> hi huebi, thanks i am fine, you too? 15:22 < huebi> jo 15:23 < hackbard> need to read the last 3 weeks mails to see the progress of rock :) 15:23 < huebi> hackbard: have fun ;-) 15:24 < hackbard> danke :) 15:35 -!- Freak [freak@p50838A44.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:37 -!- Freak [freak@p50838D29.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:46 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 15:47 < Mike1> moin all 16:09 < esden> morning 16:09 < Mike1> hi esden 16:09 < Mike1> how are you today? 16:09 < esden> good thanks ... 10 hours sleep are ok ;-) 16:09 < esden> and you ? 16:10 < Mike1> i am ok too 6 hours of sleep can do miracles too :) 16:12 < esden> hehe ... I know ... ;-) 16:12 < Mike1> :) 16:12 < esden> but these are lost hours ... if you ask me ... 16:13 < esden> but one needs it ... >_< 16:13 < Mike1> yeah i know 16:13 < esden> hmm ... clifford is not here ... >_< 16:13 * -> esden was too stupid to send the patch yesterday >_< 16:13 < esden> terrible ... 16:13 < Mike1> why? 16:14 < esden> I have not attached it ... 16:14 < Mike1> hehe 16:15 < Mike1> so just sent the mail again with the patch attached 16:16 < esden> already done it ... 16:17 < Mike1> then why are you so concerned? 16:19 < esden> hmm ... I think I have sent it ... I will see if I get a reply ... "applied" or "you forgot to attach it once more" 16:19 < Mike1> esden just hold on he's probable as usaul busy 16:19 < Mike1> usual* 16:20 < Mike1> but if you are really stressed you can just give him a call :) 16:23 < esden> hehe ... yes ... requesting a irc query by phone ... my next book ... will appear at orilly 16:24 < th> *g* 16:25 < esden> hi th 16:26 < rolla> hallo th 16:29 < [anders]> moin Mike1 16:29 < Mike1> God mordon [anders]! 16:29 < Mike1> :) 16:29 < [anders]> God morgon Mike1, sovit gott? :) 16:30 < Mike1> good u? 16:30 < [anders]> Not bad, but to little.. I am tired today.. Got the e-mail? 16:30 < Mike1> [anders]: happy b-day to your gf 16:31 < Mike1> [anders]: yes i got it 16:31 < [anders]> Mike1: thanks, I'll tell her that.. :) 16:31 < Mike1> i made a copy of rock-private and made rock-gnome2 16:31 < Mike1> so you will be having both in ur rsync dir 16:32 < Mike1> [anders]: so we can keep as you said different trees with gnome versions 16:32 < [anders]> oh, okay.. so you have copied things about and when I down next time I'll get two dirs of things? :) 16:33 < Mike1> yes 16:33 < Mike1> i have not upload anything on it yet 16:33 < Mike1> but i will later today 16:33 < [anders]> ok.. I'm just downing it now to see what I get.. :) 16:33 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 16:33 < Mike1> also the will be a little changelog file in the base dir so we both can know what the othe ris doing 16:33 < armijn> re 16:34 * [anders] is spinning the stage 3 in the provate tree at the moment... it's building qt at the moment and no errors so far.. 16:34 < Mike1> [anders]: no need to download no there is nothing on it 16:34 < Mike1> re armijn 16:34 < armijn> hiya 16:35 < Mike1> [anders]: note that the changelog file must be edited by hand 16:35 < [anders]> Mike1: ah, ok.. I thought you said you had done two trees.. 16:35 < [anders]> Mike1: yeah, not a problem.. I know how vim works.. ;-) 16:35 < Mike1> [anders]: yes i made it but i have not upload it from my workstation to the server :) 16:35 < armijn> vim... 16:35 < [anders]> Mike1: aahh.. that makes sense to me now.. :) Silly me.. :-D 16:36 < [anders]> moin armijn 16:36 < armijn> moin? 16:36 < [anders]> uhm, hello, tjena, yo.. :) 16:36 < Mike1> [anders]: i thought you were into emacs 16:36 < armijn> emacs? 16:36 < [anders]> Mike1: I am, which is why I use vimacs.. :) 16:36 < huebi> re 16:37 < huebi> moin Mike1 esden armijn 16:37 < Mike1> re huebi :) 16:37 < [anders]> moin huebi 16:37 < huebi> esden: Did you get the packet? 16:37 < Mike1> armijn: so you are into making questions today? 16:37 < huebi> hi [anders] 16:37 < armijn> mike1: questions? 16:37 < armijn> :) 16:37 < Mike1> lol 16:37 < armijn> hopefully will get an old PC of a friend... 16:37 < armijn> will try LFS 16:38 < Mike1> armijn: sounds like fun 16:38 < Mike1> huebi: did you get to do the sparc report? 16:38 < esden> huebi: not yet ... 16:38 < huebi> Mike1: no not yet 16:38 < armijn> argh, so little time, so much to do... 16:39 < Mike1> [anders]: i will make some work around then i will upload it and sent you an email 16:39 < armijn> does the alpha port already "work"? 16:39 < armijn> or at least produce a workable system? 16:39 < Mike1> huebi: perhaps if you and armijn help me a little bit i can do it as well 16:39 < huebi> armijn: No. esden did not fix qt 16:40 < huebi> Mike1: good idea. Do it and ask what you need. 16:40 < [anders]> Mike1: ok.. Looking forward to that. :) I will see if I have time to do anything later tonight, probably not. Tomorrow I should have time however. 16:40 < armijn> I think there's still some problems with SILO 16:40 < armijn> and X 16:40 < armijn> but I don't give a ***' 16:40 < armijn> about X that is 16:40 < armijn> argh, too hot 16:40 < Mike1> [anders]: sounds good to me :), btw excellent work on those scripts :) 16:41 < armijn> next week I will install GenToo 16:41 < Mike1> armijn: so far the system gets build but silo brakes 16:41 < [anders]> Mike1: you mean I am good with the delete key.... ;-) All I did was to tweak Build-All and it was huebi that told me where to look to do the tweaking.. :) 16:42 < Mike1> and the have been not work around X right? 16:42 < armijn> mike1: well, ehr, yeah, kinda... 16:42 < armijn> mike1: and we need a better kernel config 16:42 < Mike1> armijn: was the dietlibc issue fixed already? i havent get much work on the port lately 16:42 < armijn> those are the major problems 16:42 < armijn> dietlibc on sparc? 16:43 < armijn> we don't even use that 16:43 < huebi> armijn: rene proposed to fix it before he left to Denmark. Now there is no working kernel configuration system. 16:43 < armijn> huebi: he's not working on 1.5 16:43 < huebi> armijn: But he proposed it. 16:43 < armijn> to use it in 1.5? 16:43 < Mike1> so anyways the majors problems are that the kernel config is not working properly 16:43 < armijn> mike1: and SILO 16:44 < armijn> the major problem is SILO 16:44 < Mike1> armijn: yeah proposed it for 1.5 16:44 < huebi> ripclaw wanted to fix SILO 16:44 < armijn> well, I don't think it is really a good idea to use dietlibc in 1.5 16:44 < armijn> huebi: ripclaw wants many things 16:44 < huebi> armijn: ACK 16:46 < armijn> huebi: sent packet out to me? 16:46 < armijn> as well? 16:47 < [anders]> dietlibc is something we can try and work on to incorporate later in 1.6.x 16:47 < huebi> armijn: Yes, I sent it. 16:47 < armijn> cool 16:47 < armijn> finally :) 16:47 < huebi> [anders]: ACK 16:47 < [anders]> if we really want it that is.. 16:47 < armijn> well, why would we want it to? 16:48 < Mike1> [anders]: that would be cool 16:48 < Mike1> but i think this have to be done for 1.6.1 or so 16:48 < armijn> I mean, what makes it so specia? 16:48 < Mike1> huebi: how come everyone gets packets and not me :( 16:49 < armijn> and if we do it, why incorporate it in 1.6.x and not in 1.5 (which is the development tree)? 16:49 < armijn> mike1: well, you have to be really nice for huebi 16:49 < armijn> if you know what I mean... 16:49 < armijn> like "nice" 16:49 < esden> ahh climatization is something really good 16:49 < esden> hi armijn 16:49 < Mike1> armijn: because if we keep adding features on 1.5 is going to take for ever to stabilize 16:49 < armijn> hi esden 16:50 < armijn> mike1: so, no dietlibc in 1.6 then 16:50 < [anders]> 1.6.0 should still use Gnome 1.4 and glibc.. We can modify things into 1.6.1 and/or 1.6.2 16:50 < Mike1> armijn: not for 1.6.0 16:50 < armijn> hmm... 16:51 < huebi> Mike1: You want a big packet. That often needs longer. 16:51 < huebi> *g* 16:51 < armijn> so, I still don't get why we'd need dietlibc... 16:51 < armijn> +it 16:51 < [anders]> if I have understood things right, for 1.6.1 we want Gnome2... we could leave dietlibc for 1.6.2 16:51 < huebi> armijn: full X, mozilla on one diskette 16:51 < Mike1> armijn: [anders]and i are currently working on a separe tree with gnome2 if we get it to work before 1.6 is release it will be added but no promisses yet 16:51 < [anders]> armijn: space? glibc is rather large 16:52 < esden> dietlibc in 1.6 tree ? what for ? 16:52 < armijn> yeah, glibc is large...but so is Mozilla ;-) 16:52 < armijn> and GNOME 16:52 < huebi> armijn: and KDE 16:52 < Mike1> hehe 16:52 < armijn> esden: i need alpha stuff 16:52 < esden> I willl _NOT_ get dietlibc working in 1.6 forget it ! 16:52 < Mike1> huebi: i would settle with a small packet :) 16:53 < Mike1> esden: looks like you kind of hate dietlibc since the last couple of days 16:53 < esden> armijn: moment ... I have the iso here 16:53 < Mike1> :) 16:53 < [anders]> esden: what is required to get it working? masses of patches to the packages being built? 16:54 < esden> [anders]: not only masses of patches ... but the whole build system must be able to deal with the dietlibc parameters 16:54 < Mike1> armijn: is the kernel config issue for both sparc and sparc64 userland? 16:55 < esden> [anders]: you can some day take a look at target/dietlibc in the 1.7 tree ... 16:55 < esden> [anders]: it is really a mess 16:55 < [anders]> esden: so you are saying we should leave dietlibc out of 1.6.x completely.. To forget about it? 16:55 < esden> but I get it running in 1.7 but I will not do the work twice ... and porting it to 1.6 is like porting the whole build system of 1.7 to 1.6 16:56 < esden> [anders]: yes the best thing is to forget about dietlibc in 1.6 ... or you do it by yourself because I will not do it 16:58 < huebi> esden: What about QT on alpha? 16:59 < huebi> (another question disappearing in the endles universe...) 16:59 < esden> huebi: hmm ... I will do it some time ... what do you need it for ? o_O 17:00 < huebi> esden: KDE 17:00 < huebi> I will do it some time <- 2017 or even later? 17:00 < esden> huebi: urgh ... WHO NEEDS THE KDE CRAP ... ARGH 17:01 < esden> noo ... I will do in in the next weeks but not before the meeting in vienna 17:01 < huebi> esden: People who like a full featured desktop. 17:01 < [anders]> esden: no problem. I can understand the problem a bit better now.. 17:01 < esden> I have a full featured desktop and do not use kde ... 17:01 * -> esden <-- alien ??? 17:01 < huebi> esden: So it's you why 1.6 is haltet on alpha? 17:02 < huebi> *esdenaerger* 17:02 < esden> huebi: I _WILL_ do it just after vienna ... *verzweifel* 17:02 < huebi> esden: Stop sleeping and do it now, please. 17:03 < esden> huebi: ;_; 17:03 < huebi> esden: Don't waste time with living just code. 17:03 < Mike1> esden: yeah already sleep 10 hours thats enought for the rest of the week 17:03 < Mike1> :) 17:05 < esden> Mike1: yes right ... 17:06 * Mike1 getting coffee and a sandwish 17:10 < armijn> mike1: kernel config? userland? 17:10 < armijn> esden: ah, will you put the ISO (bootable) somwehere? 17:10 < armijn> +e 17:10 < esden> I can not promise that it is bootable ... but I hope so ... 17:16 -!- hoho is now known as h0h0 17:26 * armijn installing CygWin 17:36 < huebi> esden: Where is the problem with testing if it's bootable? 17:37 < armijn> he just has one type of alpha 17:37 * Mike1 back from breakfast 17:37 * [anders] is listening to Massive Attack - Karmakoma 17:37 < esden> huebi: no cdrom ... ? 17:37 * -> esden waiting still for the packet from huebi 17:37 * Mike1 too 17:37 * -> esden -> nicotine 17:38 < huebi> esden: Take a microscope and make a bit test then. *g* 17:39 < th> huebi: he would need to check two reed-solomon codes by hand then 17:39 < armijn> wow, cygwin has kinda finished 17:39 < huebi> esden: Packets for Aliens must cue up in front of the wormhole to get passed to the Receiver 17:39 < Mike1> armijn: cygwin? finished? 17:41 < armijn> yeah, my install of cygwin 17:53 < huebi> th: It's like counting sand at the beach. 17:53 < th> huebi: exactly 17:54 < huebi> better fixing qt in the time of waiting for a CDROM 17:54 < th> huebi: i'm searching a number of a girl which is a good friend of mine. perhaps she has some time for me 17:56 < armijn> hmm...girls :) 17:57 < huebi> th: It's the wrong number if it starts with 0190-... 17:57 < huebi> armijn: Yep! 17:57 < th> huebi: of course not 18:01 < th> the number was the right one. she would have time for me on friday :-/ 18:03 < esden> re 18:03 < esden> huebi: kk ... will interpret the binarydato in my brain 18:03 * -> esden porting rocklinux to his brain 18:04 < huebi> esden: You should not interpret the Matrix srceensaver. 18:04 < huebi> esden: too many Mathidas in there 18:07 < esden> huebi: mathilda is only grazing/browsing there 18:07 < armijn> heh...set the useragent in your browser to "mathilda" 18:08 * armijn getting some beer 18:08 < esden> huh ... leo.org says that grazing is a synonym to browse ... coll 18:08 < armijn> bbr 18:08 * -> esden did not know that ... 18:08 < esden> prost armijn 18:15 < [anders]> <- afk - going home, having nice evening with gf. Her birthday today.. 18:15 * Mike1 away coding 18:15 < huebi> [anders]: Have a great evening with her. 18:16 < armijn> ok, got myself two beers... 18:18 < armijn> should be enough for the next ten minutes :) 18:29 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 19:00 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B56da.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:00 < owl> hi 19:06 < huebi> hi owl 19:08 < owl> moin huebi 19:29 < rolla> grr 19:30 < rolla> drock is all kinds of broken 19:30 < huebi> rolla: ack 19:30 < rolla> I thought it was stabel ? 19:30 < huebi> usable != stable. 19:31 < huebi> That's one reason 1.6.0 still needs some time 19:31 < rolla> ah ;) 19:31 < rolla> heck the thing can't even find all of it packages 19:36 < rolla> what is the name/ip of the fast mirror for the rock ? 19:36 < huebi> iso.rocklinux.de 19:37 < armijn> break early, break often 19:38 < rolla> thanks 19:38 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 19:38 < Mike1> re 19:43 < blindcoder> good evening everyone 19:43 < owl> hi blindcoder 19:43 * armijn expecting heavy showers 19:43 < Mike1> armijn: showers? 19:43 < huebi> armijn: Here they stopped 19:43 < armijn> rain 19:43 < Mike1> rain? 19:43 < Mike1> *g 19:43 < armijn> huebi: yeah, all coming to .nl now 19:43 < armijn> mike1? 19:44 < Mike1> armijn: jk 19:44 < armijn> jk? 19:44 < armijn> :) 19:45 < armijn> funny...at this moment they're playing "Rain" (Status Quo) on the radio 19:49 < armijn> but it didn't start raining...yet 19:52 < Mike1> more funny it just started raining here 19:52 < armijn> yeah, but I don't care about that!!! 19:52 < armijn> :) 19:53 < Mike1> . 19:55 < armijn> just kidding 19:59 -!- WKaibigan [~Aloicious@ACB7BFD2.ipt.aol.com] has joined #rocklinux 20:01 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD95257D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:01 < tsa> tag 20:01 < owl> moin tsa. 20:01 < tsa> hi owl - kaffee? 20:01 < huebi> moin tsa 20:02 < tsa> hi huebi 20:02 < huebi> tsa: No, I think owl must be a man. 20:02 < tsa> ah, i see. 20:02 < tsa> how do you know? 20:03 < huebi> Does not want to make coffee at all. 20:03 < tsa> hm .. i see. 20:03 < tsa> perhaps owl even has a girlfriend. 20:04 * owl hits tsa with her notebook! 20:04 < tsa> oh, your pink notebook! 20:05 < owl> yeah. of course. i changed the color of it today. :P 20:09 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@80.129.120.3] has joined #rocklinux 20:09 < ripclaw> helo 20:09 < tsa> hi ripclaw 20:09 < armijn> helo 20:09 < owl> hi ripclaw 20:09 * ripclaw is dead-tired 20:09 < armijn> so what else is new? 20:09 < tsa> hehe 20:10 < tsa> ripclaw: you're getting old, it seems. 20:10 < tsa> ;) 20:10 < armijn> instead of complaining he'd better start fixing SILO :) 20:11 < huebi> armijn: ACK. hehe 20:11 < tsa> hm...we also still need a fix for owl - she still refuses to make coffee.. 20:12 < WKaibigan> Flower, chocolates and diamonds may work on owl at least ;-) 20:13 < th> compliments you forgot 20:13 < WKaibigan> Not expensive enough :-) 20:15 < huebi> What else does raise the performance in making coffee? 20:16 < th> oh it's just a performance problem 20:16 < th> ? 20:16 < armijn> ripclaw fell asleep 20:16 < tsa> no, owl doesn't make coffee at all. 20:17 < tsa> armijn: hehe... 20:17 < tsa> armijn: 20:17 < tsa> psst... 20:17 < tsa> RIPCLAW, WAKE UP! 20:17 < tsa> ;-) 20:18 < tsa> hm... let's just wait an hour and see what happens. 20:18 < th> tsa: you should really read esden's new book 20:18 < huebi> Perhaps there is a man missing in her life as a catalytic converter for making coffee? 20:18 < tsa> esden's new book? 20:18 < th> huebi: possibly 20:18 < huebi> owl? Is that right? 20:19 < th> tsa: "Establishing IRC-Queries by phone-call" 20:19 < th> tsa: going to be an o'reilly one. 20:19 < tsa> huebi: do you want to volunteer? 20:19 < tsa> hehe 20:19 < huebi> tsa: I'm very sure what my wife thinks about that. 20:20 < huebi> NO 20:20 < huebi> NEVER 20:20 < tsa> ;) 20:20 < tsa> huebi: so we'll have to find somebody else. 20:20 < tsa> any suggestions? 20:21 < huebi> tsa: Yes. armijn 20:21 < armijn> wa? 20:21 < tsa> ah, ok.. 20:21 < huebi> armijn: You are the catalytic converter of owl to get her making coffee 20:22 < tsa> armijn: have fun ;) 20:22 < armijn> her? 20:22 < huebi> armijn: and coffee 20:22 < huebi> ;-) 20:23 < armijn> whom does she belong to? 20:23 < tsa> armijn: you. 20:23 < tsa> from now on forever. 20:23 < armijn> she's german right? 20:23 < th> ack 20:24 < tsa> that's not a problem. you don't have to allow her to speak. 20:24 < owl> tsa: shut up! 20:24 < tsa> we're just interested in coffee ;) 20:24 < armijn> I don't like coffee 20:24 < armijn> hmm...pictures? 20:25 < owl> armijn: so, what do you like? pills which contains caffeine? ;P 20:25 < armijn> "I like to watch" 20:25 < armijn> I quitted caffeine 20:25 < owl> armijn: tststststs... 20:25 < armijn> because now, whenever I need it, just one can of cola suffices... 20:25 * th needs an command-line audio mixer that compiles on ppc 20:25 < tsa> https://www.jaenicke.org/owl_nude_pics.html 20:26 < armijn> ooh :) 20:26 < tsa> i'll get killed by her, anyway.. 20:26 < armijn> tasty :) 20:27 < armijn> but no pictures? 20:27 < armijn> awww.. 20:27 < armijn> now my day is ruined... 20:28 < owl> armijn: hahaha! i'm not a nude! forget to see pictures of me. you will never see them! 20:28 < armijn> not even normal pictures? 20:29 < owl> armijn: _no_ pictures. no normal pictures. no other pictures 20:29 < armijn> ah, you're one of those people... 20:29 < esden> tsa: Not Found 20:29 < esden> The requested URL /owl_nude_pics.html was not found on this server. 20:30 < armijn> daylight isn't *that* bad you know... 20:30 < esden> tsa: :-( 20:30 < esden> hi owl 20:30 < armijn> neither is a social life... 20:30 < owl> hi esden. 20:30 < armijn> which reminds me...I've to get one :) 20:30 < huebi> armijn: With owl, of course. 20:31 < owl> huebi: shut up! 20:31 < armijn> I will not move to germany... 20:31 < armijn> few days in berlin (CCC) was enough for one year 20:31 * owl remarks, that she is already fallen in love. with the sw33t asus notebook she "met" yesterday :P 20:32 < huebi> owl: I wouldn't say anything if you would serve the human mankind coffee. 20:32 < armijn> unless owl turns out to be a nice blonde vamp... 20:32 < armijn> or brunette... 20:32 < armijn> or a redhead... 20:32 < armijn> but probably not, because: 20:32 < owl> armijn: hahaha! you're dreaming. 20:32 < armijn> A - she's on IRC at this time of the day 20:32 < huebi> and makes coffee 20:33 < armijn> B - she uses ROCK Linux 20:33 < armijn> (I guess) 20:33 < armijn> no one who uses ROCK Linux can be pretty 20:33 < tsa> hehe 20:33 < armijn> all the ROCK developers I met so far are butt ugly 20:33 < armijn> including myself 20:33 < esden> armijn: she is not using rock ... she is using windows ... 20:33 < owl> armijn: you're right. i'm not pretty. 20:33 < armijn> even worse... 20:33 < tsa> armijn: typical geek problem, i guess. 20:34 < armijn> yeah... 20:34 < esden> armijn: I am not butt ugly ;-) 20:34 < armijn> there's only one solution...more beer... 20:34 < owl> esden: on all of my computers i also have ROCK installed!!! 20:34 < esden> armijn: talk only for yourself ;-) 20:34 < armijn> esden: yes you are...you just think you aren't 20:34 < esden> armijn: ok ... good to know 20:34 < armijn> esden: sorry if I crushed your self confidence there 20:34 < huebi> esden: You're an alien with long toungh. You're not in the human beauty contest. 20:34 < th> esden: gimme a ppc-audio-mixer! 20:35 < tsa> armijn: 20:35 < tsa> -owl- VERSION mIRC v6.01 Khaled Mardam-Bey 20:35 < tsa> doesn't look like ROCK Linux to me... 20:35 < th> tsa: wine? 20:35 < owl> tsa: eumex!!! 20:35 < armijn> but she does use ROC 20:35 < armijn> +K 20:35 < armijn> so, she's ugly 20:35 < huebi> owl: make a quick binary hack for it on rocklinux. 20:35 < armijn> sorry about that. 20:36 < armijn> darn, beer shortage... 20:36 < tsa> owl: do you actually use ROCK Linux? 20:36 < huebi> <- 38 bottles of beer left. 20:36 < tsa> or SuSE? 20:36 < huebi> tsa: SuXE 20:36 < th> DO NOT CALL THIS NAME 20:36 < owl> tsa: yeah. on k0y0r0, my main workstation 20:36 < armijn> huebi: what kinda name? 20:36 < th> PLEEASE 20:36 < th> "suse" 20:36 < th> :-/ 20:37 < armijn> I installed SuSE a week ago... 20:37 < armijn> actually, worked on it a few minutes ago 20:37 < th> i lost suse yesterday :-( 20:37 < Mike1> owl how do you make a cross build for ppc over the rock Build-Cluster? 20:37 * Mike1 testing owl 20:37 < armijn> huebi: ehr, beer that is 20:37 < huebi> armijn: SuXE! 20:37 < armijn> d'oh! 20:37 < tsa> Mike1: hehe 20:37 < huebi> Grohe Export. 20:37 < armijn> mixing things... 20:37 < owl> mike1: i'n using rock, not coding! 20:37 < armijn> Gross Export? 20:37 < Mike1> owl: thats not coding 20:37 < huebi> no. Grohe is a local brewery. 20:37 < armijn> just finished my 2nd can of "Wieckse Witte" 20:38 < owl> mike1: bla 20:38 < armijn> huebi: then why is it "export"? 20:38 < Mike1> owl: blo 20:38 < armijn> blow? 20:39 < tsa> armijn: was that a request? 20:39 * tsa waiting for owl's answer.. ;-) 20:39 < Mike1> armijn: your asking owl for a blow? 20:39 * owl says nothing anymore 20:39 < tsa> Mike1: it seems so. 20:41 < huebi> armijn: Export is a type of beer like Pilserner or stout. 20:41 < th> stout? you mean stdout? 20:41 < huebi> Pilsener 20:41 < tsa> th: ;) 20:41 < th> a beer called stdout? 20:41 < th> strange 20:41 < huebi> Guinness = stout. 20:41 < armijn> well, export here is what we ehr...export 20:42 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-5a74.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux 20:42 < tsa> hi plfiorini 20:42 < th> stdin would be a better name for a beer 20:42 < Mike1> ciao plfiorini 20:42 < th> hi plfiorini 20:42 < plfiorini> hi 20:42 < plfiorini> hi Mike1 th and tsa 20:42 < WKaibigan> Export is what they call it in order to charge more :-) 20:42 < plfiorini> Mike1: have you looked this www.it.gnome.org/seegnome.html 20:45 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-5a74.tin.it] has quit (Client Quit) 20:45 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-5a74.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux 20:45 < esden> th: what do you need a ppc mixer for ?? o_O 20:45 < Mike1> yes i have 20:46 < Mike1> plfiorini: yes i have 20:46 < th> esden: my dbox2 20:46 < esden> armijn: i had never a selfconfidence that this could break ;-) 20:46 < armijn> esden: exactly 20:46 < esden> huebi: hehe ... I am an alian ... you are a human ... I thing that it is much better to be an alian ;-) 20:47 < armijn> you know, my guess is...actually owl is just lurking on IRC to "score" 20:47 < armijn> I just feel that... 20:47 < esden> th: hmm ... sorry ... none here ... I need first a ppc box 20:47 < armijn> or maybe it's the beer...that's another possibility 20:47 < plfiorini> Mike1: good 20:47 < huebi> esden: Alien have to pay higher taxes on eearth. 20:47 < esden> huebi: aha ... I never paid taxes till now ... 20:48 -!- codeq [dennis@pD9E4DFE7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:48 < codeq> hi 20:48 < tsa> hi codeq 20:48 < huebi> esden: you camouflage as a studen from Poland. 20:48 < armijn> yeah, I never trusted the polish 20:48 < armijn> I mean, look at their notation! 20:48 < armijn> all reversed! 20:49 < huebi> armijn: so esden will be payed taxes 20:51 < armijn> that's what he *thinks* 20:51 < armijn> ok, am off 20:51 < armijn> cu 20:51 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux () 20:52 < th> esden: ok. aumix just works fine 20:54 -!- VeKTeReX [nobody@209.215.137.190] has joined #rocklinux 20:54 < esden> huebi: pssst !! 20:54 < tsa> hm... 20:54 < tsa> armijn is gone. 20:55 < tsa> esden: do you want to have owl? 20:55 < huebi> esden: to spend your tax 20:55 < owl> tsa: *aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh* 20:56 < tsa> huebi: did he just say "yes"? 20:56 < huebi> tsa: Sure. That's the default. 20:58 < tsa> ok. 20:58 < tsa> esden: first, you'll have to show her how to make coffee. 20:59 < tsa> hm. 20:59 < tsa> esden: did you just die? 21:00 < tsa> huebi: what now? 21:01 < huebi> esden just controls his new star ship: https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/files/NCC-1864.jpg 21:02 < tsa> lol. 21:03 < huebi> tsa: he really needs it now. The last time he was driving a car the last thing he remebers is this: https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/files/speed-limit.jpg 21:04 < owl> lol :) 21:05 < tsa> *G** 21:06 < huebi> can you see the container for coffee bean on to of the helicopter? It's obvious that it is a womans aircraft. 21:06 < huebi> +s +p 21:06 < tsa> haha 21:06 < owl> huebi: what are you thinking about the whole day - coffee?! incredible 21:07 < huebi> rotor with integrated coffee mill 21:08 < owl> *gggg* 21:11 * owl currently listens to cannibal corpse - i will kill you... 21:11 < owl> huebi... :PPPP 21:11 < huebi> https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/anw-31.07.02-004/ <- YES! 21:13 < huebi> owl: I see your long alien toungh. Now I know you belong to esden 21:13 < esden> huebi: your information is protty old ... this ship is pretty old ... 21:14 < huebi> esden: I also didn't see you with a new car. 21:14 < esden> huebi: what car are you driving ? ... have you checked if it is still where you left it ? 21:15 < huebi> yes. 21:15 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-5a74.tin.it] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:15 < esden> good ... ;-) 21:15 < owl> huebi: never. 21:16 < esden> huebi: are you also sure that it is not a hologram what you saw ? 21:16 < huebi> esden: Sag' doch einfach: "Vier fahn Golf!" 21:17 < huebi> esden: Absolutly sure. polish holograms don't hit the car make and alien holograms are only flyable 21:19 < Mike1> can anyone please give an example of how to export a variable from a html file to a shell script? 21:19 < esden> huebi: your information is really old ... *headshake* 21:20 < th> Mike1: bash? 21:20 < Mike1> th yes 21:20 < th> Mike1: so you have a bash CGI-script? 21:21 < Mike1> th thats what i am trying to do 21:21 < th> Mike1: there is a difference in doing so between http-POST and http-GET 21:21 < th> Mike1: talking about <FORM>? or just about ?foo=bar added to url? 21:21 < Mike1> th but i need to read $1 and $2 from a form on a html file 21:22 < th> Mike1: a form. ok. so it depends on your method="xyz" setting 21:22 < th> Mike1: is it get or post? 21:22 < Mike1> post 21:23 < th> post can be read on stdin 21:23 < Mike1> then i need to run my shell script get the ouput back to html 21:23 < th> get can be found in environment 21:23 < Mike1> +t 21:23 < th> Mike1: therefore you need to sent content-type header 21:23 -!- codeq [dennis@pD9E4DFE7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+ssfe") 21:27 < esden> hmm ... now all this stuff here gets pretty messy ... :-/ 21:27 < Mike1> hehe 21:28 -!- angel|of|chaos [~Angel@pD9E11762.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:30 < esden> hmm ... /me missing clifford 21:32 < Mike1> esden: call him :) 21:34 < esden> *yawn* 21:34 * fake is laughing 21:34 < fake> hi there ;)) 21:34 -!- angel|of|chaos is now known as angel^shower 21:34 < fake> women are really..... really.... 21:35 < fake> it's undescribable 21:35 < angel^shower> <-- thinks that fake is right 21:35 < fake> it's fun watchting women cat-fighting each other as long as you're not involved 21:35 < fake> hehe 21:35 < angel^shower> *lol* 21:35 < angel^shower> yep 21:36 < fake> *rolf* 21:36 < fake> man ich schmeiss mich so weg 21:36 < angel^shower> wobei ? 21:36 < fake> das is besser als jede comedy 21:37 < fake> maaaan.... 21:38 < fake> real-life-anime 21:38 < esden> hi fake !!! 21:38 < esden> fake: women ??? o_O 21:40 < fake> GIRLS! 21:40 < fake> *ARGHH* 21:40 < esden> girls ?? what girls ? 21:40 < fake> esden: i wonder what'd happen if you lock up tora, drachi and kawaii in one room for a finite chunk of time 21:41 < fake> say, 48 hrs 21:41 < esden> urgh ... you then open the door and you see only ... _RED_ 21:41 < esden> fake: are they @ nos ? 21:43 < tsa> re. 21:43 < rolla> fake 21:44 * tsa finished writing invoices. 21:44 < fake> esden: i'd feel sorry for the room 21:44 < fake> esden: no. 21:44 < fake> hi rolla ! 21:44 < fake> hi tsa 21:44 < tsa> hi fake. 21:44 < tsa> fake: want to have owl? 21:45 < th> fake: has to work on iga. do NOT disturb him 21:45 < fake> he he he 21:45 < fake> tsa: eh? 21:46 < owl> fake: tsa is insane today. don't wonder. 21:46 < fake> th: i didn't even start yet -_- 21:46 * fake feels guilty 21:46 < fake> olw: that's like he always acts, right? 21:46 < th> fake: *slap* 21:46 < th> fake: get to work 21:46 < tsa> fake: you don't have to. we (huebi and /me) decided that owl needs a man who teaches her how to make coffee. 21:47 < tsa> huebi was not interested, armijn left and esden died by shock. it's your turn now. 21:48 < owl> tsa: thanks. now i feel much better. 21:48 * fake can't make any coffee 21:48 < fake> th: i'll do, tomorrow. i finally finished cleaning up my hard drive(s) 21:49 < tsa> fake: the idea is that owl will make the coffee for you. 21:49 * owl will never do it. 21:49 < th> fake: and after getting iga to work you should read `man rm` 21:49 < huebi> fake: Now it's your chance to get a coffee machine who also cleans up the fscking kitchen. 21:50 < fake> th: no. man cdrecord :P 21:50 < fake> huebi: l33t! 21:50 < fake> tsa: but i can't teach her. 21:51 < fake> "Auf alten raedern lernt man das fahren" 21:51 < tsa> fake: you still can tell her to RTFM.. 21:51 < huebi> fake: teaching is impossible. Force her! 21:51 < fake> huebi: you mean with BDSM and stuff? *harr* 21:52 * fake imagines owl in BDSM outfit 21:52 < owl> ./ignore fake *argh* 21:53 < huebi> https://www.imi.co.il/ <- very good and approved stuff to force sbd to do/be sth. 21:53 < owl> ./ignore huebi 21:53 < owl> ./ignore tsa 21:53 < tsa> ;) 21:53 < huebi> owl: /ignor owl is missing 21:53 < owl> huebi: why should i ignore myself? 21:53 < fake> huebi: you can't ignore yourself. i tried. 21:54 < tsa> fake: lol 21:54 < huebi> https://www.imi.co.il/ <- very well proven as know from the daily "CNN-Ad-Show" 21:54 < huebi> +n 21:55 < huebi> owl: that's obvious. Please raise your IQ. 21:55 < fake> *klick* 21:55 < fake> *ROFL* 21:55 < owl> *argh* 21:56 < fake> he huebi, you're in a good modd today, eh? ;-) 21:56 * owl destroyed her brain. 21:56 < fake> s,modd,mood, 21:56 < huebi> fake: yep, hehe. 21:56 < th> hmmm can i select from multiple tables (not joining) with one SELECT? 21:57 < fake> yes 21:57 < th> how? 21:57 < th> imagine a table foo and a table bar 21:57 < fake> SELECT foo.bar, bar.bar, bar.foo, foo.foo 21:57 < th> no that will result in a join 21:57 < fake> FROM foo,bar 21:58 < fake> a simple left join, but that doesn't matter 21:58 < th> with tuple (foo.bar, bar.bar, bar.foo, foo.foo) in each row of result 21:58 < fake> foo.bar AS foobar, bar.foo AS barfoo 21:59 < th> i want to have rows with pairs of (tablename, value) 21:59 < huebi> https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/daa-31.07.02-000/ <- They have now PCs only coffee machines *g* 21:59 < huebi> -w 21:59 < fake> foo.bar AS bar.foo ? 21:59 < th> ouhm? 22:00 < th> ok. 22:00 < th> again 22:00 < th> i have two tables 22:00 < th> first table is foo, 2nd is bar 22:00 < th> foo has a column foo 22:00 < tsa> *giggle* 22:00 < th> bar has a column bar 22:00 * tsa ordering submachine gun 22:00 < th> i want to do a magic select with the following result 22:01 < th> the result shall be the same as i get from "select "foo", foo.foo from foo; select "bar", bar.bar from bar" 22:02 < fake> select "foo", foo.foo, "bar", bar.bar FROM foo, bar 22:02 < fake> ? 22:02 < fake> or do you mean 2 separate tables? 22:03 < th> that would result in a 4-tuple resultset 22:03 < th> i want a 2-tuple result-set 22:03 < fake> th: that dowsn't work 22:03 < th> fake: so i have to do 2 selects? 22:03 < fake> ( how should it? ) 22:04 < fake> yes. 22:04 < huebi> tsa: https://www.shooting-center.de/de.htm <- better for kitchen use 22:05 -!- angel^shower is now known as angel|of|chaos 22:07 < fake> das is besser: https://www.waffenhq.de/infanterie/g36.html 22:08 < fake> https://www.waffenhq.de/infanterie/g36-40mmgranatw.jpg 22:08 < fake> son granatwerfer unten dran, und schon is ruhe im karton 22:08 < owl> fake: wen willst du denn umbringen? den huebi? 22:09 < fake> noch. 22:09 * fake zeigt sein "Ich schiesse nur auf Frauen"-T-Shirt her 22:09 < owl> danke. 22:10 < owl> ich habe doch gar nix gemacht... :-/ und schon werde ich erschossen. finde ich jetzt ganz freundlich ... 22:10 < fake> du bist weiblich. das is grund genug. 22:10 < owl> danke. 22:10 < fake> bitte. 22:10 < huebi> fake: ACK 22:11 < tsa> hehe 22:13 < fake> fuer die kueche finde ich das am besten: https://www.heckler-koch.de/html/german/behoerden/06_grenademachinegun/06_01_index.html 22:13 < fake> duerfte bis ins wohnzimmer reichen 22:14 < fake> Angetrieben durch den Verschluß, werden die gegurteten Granaten durch eine gleichmäßige Vor- und Rückwärtsbewegung des Verschlusses sauber zugeführt. Dabei kann die Zuführung ohne Werkzeuge von der linken auf die rechte Seite verlegt werden. 22:14 < huebi> https://users.intercomm.com/agw/pictures.html <- fuer'n Garten. 22:15 < huebi> https://www.barrettrifles.com/rifles_82A1.html <- even better 22:16 < fake> huebi: snipern ruled! 22:17 < fake> * Retail Price $7,300 22:17 < tsa> nice but expensive. 22:17 < huebi> fake: No real sniper rifles. But if there is a 1m thick wall between you and the target there is no problem to hit it. 22:18 < tsa> owl: if i were you, i'd consider making coffee soon... ;-) 22:18 < huebi> for use in the whole hose without need to move your ass. 22:18 < huebi> +u 22:18 < owl> tsa: no, why should i make coffee. 22:19 < huebi> owl: 21:55 < huebi> owl: that's obvious. Please raise your IQ. 22:19 * owl hebt den kopf provokativ hin und malt sich 'ne zielscheibe auf den kopf. 22:19 < huebi> which head? 22:19 < owl> so. erschiesst mich! :PPP 22:19 < owl> auf meinen. welche sonst? 22:19 < huebi> warum? 22:19 * fake schnappt seine Springfiled '03, laedt durch, zielt, feuert, blut spritzt. 22:20 < fake> ein zeh weniger ;-) 22:20 < owl> schlecht. 22:20 < fake> s,Springfiled,Springfield, 22:20 < owl> in den kopf habe ich gesagt! verdammt, nie die befehle ausfuehren hier... pah! 22:20 < owl> warst wohl ned beim bund, eh? 22:20 < fake> huebi: did you know Heckler&Koch are baknrupt? 22:20 < huebi> fake erst ziehen und zielen - dann erst schiessen 22:21 < huebi> fake: No, I didn't. 22:21 * -> esden getting a g36 and shooting all femail beingns ;-) 22:21 < esden> hruaaarrr 22:21 < fake> owl: vom kopf hast nix gesagt. und befehle erteilst du mir sowieso net 22:21 < fake> huebi: they designed a new sniper, that was too powerful 22:21 < owl> fake: lesen will gelernt sein... 22:21 < fake> chances of death 90% - no matter where you shot you enemy 22:21 < angel|of|chaos> i ever knowed that you guys are crazy ... 22:22 < fake> huebi: nerve-shock on impact 22:22 < esden> angel|of|chaos: that is nothing new ... ;-) 22:22 < fake> even with "hartkernmunition" 22:22 < huebi> fake: Jacky Chan sagt immer: "Warum soll ich jemanden mit einem Schuss toeten wenn es auch tausende sein koennen?" 22:22 < angel|of|chaos> esden: but i thought with more stile *gg* 22:22 < esden> huebi: because munition costs money ;-) 22:22 < angel|of|chaos> style even 22:22 < fake> the genfer convention says the chance of staying alive must be better than 40% 22:22 < fake> and the bundeswehr doesn't want dead enemies 22:23 < fake> one injured enemy disables 2 other enemies who have to care about the injured one 22:23 < huebi> fake: ACK. Airguns are also cool to kill .... 22:23 < fake> thus, Heckler & Koch are bankrupt 22:24 < fake> airguns? you mean killing birds? ;-) 22:24 < fake> ( only the female ones, of course ) 22:25 < huebi> fake: no, humans. Lasts longer.. 22:25 < fake> huebi: you have to hit the... "schlaefen" pretty precisely ? 22:26 < esden> ahh ... 22:26 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@80.129.120.3] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:26 * -> esden hitting his *schlaefen* 22:26 < esden> does not work >_< 22:27 < huebi> fake: no, not nessesarily 22:27 < fake> or you have to feed them with the ammo. plumbium is toxic. 22:27 < tsa> .oO( ripclaw just hit the keyboard with his head, it seems ) 22:27 < fake> esden: mit beiden haenden flach, gleichzeitig fest auf die ohren hauen 22:28 < fake> !! NICHT !! 22:28 < tsa> esden: bleistift ins ohr stecken und draufhauen. 22:28 < fake> tsa: you'll only get disabeld by that 22:28 < esden> fake: hmm ... warum nicht ? 22:28 < fake> disabled 22:28 < esden> tsa: good idea 22:28 < fake> esden: weil das wirklich verdammt toedlich ist 22:28 < fake> dauert aber so 2 stunden 22:28 < esden> fake: das ist guuut !!! *freu* 22:28 < tsa> c00l. 22:28 < tsa> folter. 22:29 < huebi> Luft gewehr dauert 2 Wochen. 22:29 < fake> huebi: where do you have to shoot? 22:29 * fake got shot by an airgun pretty often XD 22:30 < huebi> fake: only on the body - more than 1000 times. 22:30 < fake> *lol* 22:31 < fake> huebi: i prefer dying by sugar then 22:33 -!- angel|of|chaos [~Angel@pD9E11762.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (".: https://www.mpm-lan.de :.") 22:34 < huebi> fake: A sniper rifle is to human. An Airgun let you know longer that you're going to die - and there is hope not to die... 22:34 < huebi> till you are dead. 22:38 < fake> hm... right. 22:38 < fake> 1000 shots into the stomach 22:39 < huebi> all over the body. Then an infection... 22:39 < th> fake: i'd prefer a pizza 22:40 < fake> th: good idea. 22:40 * fake making pizza 22:40 < tsa> fake: would prefer weed cookies.. ;-) 22:42 < esden> tsa: do you have some ? 22:42 < tsa> esden: no, currently not. 22:43 < fake> ha-ha *g* 22:43 < tsa> would like to, but currently don't have enough supplies.. 22:44 * fake gives tsa a mathilda-steak 22:44 < tsa> hehe 22:44 < tsa> thanks, fake 22:44 < fake> you're welcome 22:49 < huebi> https://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,135916,00.jpg <- first test flight of esdens new star ship 22:52 < fake> USS Enterprise NCC 1701-D 22:52 < fake> HOT ship 22:52 -!- ge0rg is now known as Ge0rG 22:59 -!- spiketz [tommy@80.128.118.126] has joined #rocklinux 22:59 < spiketz> hy @all 23:00 < owl> hi spiketz 23:00 < spiketz> when i start XFree86 under framebuffer in the left corner the cursor is blinking, how can i remove it? 23:01 < fake> Option "SWCursor" "true" 23:01 < fake> in the device section 23:03 < spiketz> this option doesn't help 23:04 < spiketz> it's the prompt cursor, which is blinking 23:05 < fake> aw 23:06 < fake> no idea. 23:08 * owl is going to kill the developers of M$-ISWI and installshield. *arghl* 23:09 < fake> go ahead. 23:10 < owl> yeah. it's real sh**. and i'm still connected to my company and working with it... damn! 23:10 -!- spiketz [tommy@80.128.118.126] has quit ("Client Exiting") 23:10 < fake> then stop it 23:11 < owl> i can't. my TODO is about 10 kilometres long... have to finish this stuff until friday afternoon. and then vacation. 23:11 < huebi> owl: Work more there. you can't make coffee so work more. 23:12 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-370.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux 23:13 < plfiorini> re 23:13 * owl makes inserts so much caffeine-pills in the coffee, that huebi dies (if he'll drink it) 23:14 < fake> owl: that would have to be more coffeine-tablets than thos fitting into the mug 23:14 < owl> fake: did i tell something about a mug? 23:15 < fake> owl: the concentration is always the same 23:15 < owl> a large can of coffee... :PP 23:15 < owl> oh huebi seems to be dead now.... *vbeg* 23:15 < fake> you can't solve more than a specific amount of something in a liquid 23:16 < owl> hm. ok. nevermind 23:16 < esden> fake: you have to take pure caffein and solve it in water ... 23:17 < huebi> fake: senceless to try to make her understand it. 23:17 * owl currently listens to "korn - all my hate" (is related to my job... ) *argh* 23:17 < owl> huebi: blablabla 23:18 < huebi> 23:17 < owl> huebi: blablabla <- starts to speak ununderstandable stuff.... 23:18 < esden> be nace to eachother ... >_< 23:18 < owl> yeah. from now on i can just "speak" InstallScript. damn. :-/ 23:18 < huebi> esden: Ok. I take the big gun. 23:18 < esden> huebi: goood 23:18 < owl> esden: i'm always nice. 23:19 < huebi> owl: Photo, please. 23:19 * fake takes the BFG1000 23:21 < fake> iddqd 23:21 < fake> idkfa 23:21 < owl> huebi: wait a second. i will publish the URL here. 23:21 < fake> *BADABUUM* 23:23 < huebi> * now owl is a "Grillhuehnchen" 23:23 < owl> https://www.closeup.de/articles/large/690195.jpg << here's my photo 23:23 < huebi> owl: I don't believe. 23:24 < owl> hahaha *vbeg* 23:24 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@pD9590DC9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:24 < owl> sorry, i'm insane and evil today 23:24 < fake> owl and me: https://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/friends/chatter/sundj.jpg 23:24 < fake> *sigh* the good old times 23:25 < owl> hm 23:25 < fake> and this is how she looks now: https://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/friends/spic3.jpg 23:25 < tsa> hahahaha 23:26 < fake> https://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/friends/angels/torstenp10.JPG 23:26 < fake> a good friend of mine ;-) 23:26 < huebi> o_O Too many fight in the kitchen. owl loves big knifes. 23:27 < fake> me too: https://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/friends/angels/jaxi_schwert.jpg 23:27 < chrisime> hmpf 23:27 < chrisime> esden: there? 23:27 < fake> ( and yes, that is really me ) 23:27 < huebi> fake: A photo 10 seconds later please. 23:27 < owl> huebi: to cut my skin into pices, yeah. 23:28 < fake> huebi: surfing pr0n sites: https://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/friends/angels/torstenp2.JPG 23:29 < huebi> hehehe 23:29 < owl> the only and the one porn site: https://notebooks.asuscom.de/ 23:30 * fake is having a bath 23:30 < tsa> https://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/friends/chatter/piot-doris.jpg <---- ROTFL 23:30 < owl> -s 23:30 < fake> cu later 23:30 < fake> tsa: yes, that's esden 23:30 < owl> cya fake 23:30 < huebi> owl: cu fake 23:30 * Ge0rG has got his own pr0n site... https://ge0rg.boerde.de/pr0n/ ;) 23:30 < fake> huebi: wrong route 23:34 < tsa> owl: for you: 23:34 < tsa> https://www.geocities.com/lukketto/ 23:35 < owl> tsa: haha! 23:36 * owl makes espresso right now. 23:36 < huebi> owl: That must be a lie! 23:36 * Mike1 cant believes his eyes, owl is making coffee, finally! 23:36 < tsa> YESSSS! 23:36 < huebi> But where is the man? 23:36 < owl> eh guys, this espresso is just for myselfe!!! 23:36 < owl> -e 23:42 < huebi> (the espresso is a fake. Just a cup of tea.) 23:42 < tsa> * fake is having a bath 23:43 < tsa> fake + bath = espresso? 23:43 < owl> eh??? 23:44 < Mike1> tsa: exaclty 23:44 < owl> i'm drinking espresso. cuz i was so dead yesterday, that i felt asleep when i was sitting in fron of my computers. and in the morning (in the train) i was so dead that i slept and forgot that i travel to munich cuz it's morning. 23:46 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@pD9590DC9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 23:46 * th would love to feel tired now 23:47 * th would love to start a new day NOW. :-/ 23:47 < tsa> th: no problem - go to work.. 23:47 < Mike1> tsa: NO! he is helping me :) 23:48 < tsa> ah, ok. 23:48 < th> tsa: i AM at work 23:49 < tsa> oh..ok --- Log closed Thu Aug 01 00:00:16 2002