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--- Log opened Sun Aug 04 00:00:08 2002 --- Day changed Sun Aug 04 2002 00:00 < Mike1> huebi: yeah i can understand a lot of the code 00:00 < Mike1> and sure i will se how i can make it more understandable or at least add a little comment telling what is 00:01 < huebi> When I'm in Vienna I'll concentrate on exact these issues - docu and error handling. 00:02 < fake> i.e. : "bug clifford while he's around" 00:02 < huebi> The Install script must be way more user friendly as it is now. 00:03 < Mike1> huebi: i will be workink around scripts/Internal for a while 00:03 < Mike1> and as fake said i will bug clifford with questions about it :) 00:04 < fake> hehe 00:05 < huebi> fake: And while he can't get away... He said a few days ago he writes no user documentation. So noew he has to explain his code and I write the docs. ROCK Linux _must_ be easy to understand. Then we will get more users for the best "Linux Distribution Build Kit" avaliabl. 00:05 < huebi> +e 00:05 < fake> ack. 00:05 < Mike1> huebi: ACK 00:05 * [anders] is falling asleep... afk -> sleep 00:05 < [anders]> will talk to you guys tomorrow.. 00:05 < Mike1> n8 [anders] 00:06 < huebi> sleep very well [anders] . cu tomorrow 00:06 * huebi getting the third beer... 00:06 < huebi> root@zeus:/mnt/disk/rock-linux/base-config# ls /mnt/disk/rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/*log |wc -l 00:06 * [anders] is finishing of the 2nd beer (Kronenbourg 1664) and then going to bed.. 00:06 < huebi> 344 00:07 < huebi> root@zeus:/mnt/disk/rock-linux/base-config# ls /mnt/disk/rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/*err |wc -l 00:07 < huebi> 3 00:07 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B503e.pppool.de] has quit ("sunday - another ISP ;)") 00:07 < huebi> "Grohe Export" - My father drunk that, too. 00:07 * Mike1 going to the market in the corner to buy some beer 00:07 * fake is getting a beer, too 00:08 * thalerim is getting an ice 00:08 < Mike1> buch of drunks!! 00:08 < Mike1> *g 00:08 < huebi> never drink and root - su instaed. 00:09 -!- owl [~mail-spam@212.144.169.59] has joined #rocklinux 00:09 < h0h0> why exactly is su safer than loging in as root? 00:09 < owl> re 00:09 < fake> h0h0: you have to type more to do sth as root 00:09 < fake> so you have more time to think about it 00:10 < h0h0> not if you login as a user and immediatly su 00:11 < fake> h0h0 00:11 < fake> i mean su -c 00:11 < h0h0> oh 00:11 < h0h0> hmm 00:12 < huebi> h0h0: Being root is sth for Windows users. Not to be root is alway preferable. You then can't kill your system. 00:12 < Mike1> why not ssh -l root 127.0.0.1 in stead of su :) 00:13 < fake> you could also run apache as root and have a cgi script installed.... 00:14 * h0h0 actualy has root setuid cgi scripts :) 00:14 < huebi> Mike1: "ssh rock" as user huebi logs my in as root on rock without any passwd. 00:14 < fake> lynx https://127.0.0.1/cgi-bin/su.cgi?do=... 00:14 < Mike1> huebi: mm.. 00:14 < h0h0> I happen to enjoy the ability to kill my system in 5 seconds should the feds show up 00:14 < h0h0> or some other reason 00:15 < huebi> h0h0: better use fs-encryption. 00:15 < fake> h0h0:electronic magnets 00:15 < h0h0> huebi: I tried to do that. its rediculously hard to setup in linux 00:15 < fake> nack 00:15 < h0h0> fake: Id love to have one of those hot swap drives, so I can rip it out and crush it in 10 seconds 00:16 < fake> justr get the intl patch to the kernel 00:16 < huebi> h0h0: MIL specification wants to have a disk overwriten at least 14 times with random crap. 00:16 < h0h0> disk overwriteing won't work 00:16 < h0h0> the only proper way is to burn it 00:16 < h0h0> or a good degause-er 00:17 < fake> burning doesnt really work 00:17 < huebi> overwrite it often enough. that works. 00:17 < fake> melt it, is faster. 00:17 < h0h0> burning is awsome on floppy disks 00:17 < huebi> or use acid. 00:17 < h0h0> cd's can be crushed easily 00:18 < h0h0> I wouldn't trust acid 00:18 < huebi> cd's are erased in microwave in seconds 00:18 < h0h0> I am only satisfied when I can't tell that the disk existed 00:18 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p50813309.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos") 00:18 < fake> thermit 00:18 < huebi> use HF 00:18 < fake> Fe2O3 00:18 < fake> + 00:18 < fake> Al 00:18 < fake> ;-) 00:18 < h0h0> heh, for ultimate stegonography, use a hammer 00:19 < huebi> h0h0: thermit is fastes and best. 00:19 < h0h0> why is that any better than h2so4? 00:19 < h0h0> thermit? 00:19 < Mike1> huebi: Clifford is the one maintainer of gnome1 in 1.5 tree, when we move to gnome2 will he still be the maintainer or should it be [anders] and / or I.? 00:19 < fake> h0h0: redox-reaction 00:19 < Mike1> dunno how this things work 00:19 < fake> reaches temperatures of over 5000° C 00:19 < h0h0> what's that? 00:19 < huebi> Mike1: Deside it with [anders] 00:20 < h0h0> wow 00:20 < h0h0> thats in the temperatures-i-can-even-imagin range 00:20 < huebi> h0h0: needed to weld railways 00:20 < fake> h0h0: you get melted ferrum through that reaction 00:20 < h0h0> weld railways? 00:20 < huebi> yep 00:20 < fake> ... with wich railways are repared ;) 00:20 < h0h0> if you for some reason wanted to weld a railway, why not an arc welder or something? 00:21 < fake> too slow 00:21 < huebi> not enough energy 00:21 < h0h0> Ive never seen anyone weld a railway 00:21 < h0h0> or even heard of it being done 00:21 < fake> just bump that mix ( Al+Fe2O3) around it, burn it and WHAM its done 00:21 < huebi> fake: ACK 00:22 < h0h0> what's the Al for? 00:22 < huebi> h0h0: I've seen irt. works really fine 00:22 < fake> h0h0: the =2 gets attached to iz 00:22 < fake> t 00:22 < fake> o2 00:22 < huebi> hoto get the oxygen out of FeO 00:22 < h0h0> so, it doesn't get hot untill you add al? 00:23 < fake> h0h0: you have to get something like 700 °C to start the reaction 00:23 < h0h0> hmm, how hot is that 00:23 < h0h0> mig welder hot? acetilne torch hot? 00:23 < fake> a torch or a fire cracker 00:24 < fake> or something like a little piece of gunpowder 00:24 < h0h0> propane torch? 00:24 < Mike1> huebi: if thats ok with you :) 00:24 < fake> sure, works. 00:24 < h0h0> nice 00:24 < h0h0> where do you get this stuff? 00:24 < fake> h0h0: rust and aluminium ?? 00:25 < fake> look around you ;-) 00:25 < th> re 00:25 < fake> just has to be powdered. 00:25 < fake> hi th 00:25 < huebi> Mike1: Of course it is. I'm only the maintainer of the whole thing. If you want to take over some packages I'm very glad about it. 00:25 < h0h0> isn't there other forms of rust besides Fe2O3? 00:26 < fake> not that i know of *lol* 00:26 < th> h0h0: ack 00:26 < fake> maybe some isotops 00:26 < huebi> hi th 00:26 < h0h0> I thought that there was some other way they would combine 00:26 < th> es gibt Eisen-II-Oxid und Eisen-III-Oxid 00:26 < th> Fe2O3 ist letzteres und rot und der uebliche rost 00:26 < h0h0> yeah, Iron-2 and iron-3 00:26 < th> das andere ist schwarz 00:27 < huebi> "Zunder" 00:27 < th> und FeO oder so 00:27 < fake> th: but it's unusual for ferrum to do that by itself 00:27 < h0h0> can someone tell me what he is saying? 00:27 < th> h0h0: oups sorry 00:27 < fake> h0h0: the brown/red rust 00:28 < h0h0> und rot und der uebliche rost? 00:28 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p50813309.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:28 < thalerim> re 00:29 < th> h0h0: red and the common ferrum-oxid 00:29 < h0h0> brown is ferric-oxide? 00:30 < h0h0> red is ferrous oxide? 00:30 < th> h0h0: no red is a color 00:30 < h0h0> I know that :) 00:30 < th> cool 00:31 < h0h0> so, whats the difference between ferric oxide and ferrous oxide? 00:31 < th> h0h0: spelling 00:31 < h0h0> what? 00:31 < th> h0h0: the only difference is in spelling of the word "ferric" / "ferrous" 00:31 < h0h0> chemical composition is the same??? 00:32 < th> h0h0: i don't know the correct english names of what i'm talking about. 00:33 < th> h0h0: but it's also known as "rust" 00:33 < h0h0> heh 00:33 < huebi> https://www.loewensenf.de/ <- fscking hot. 00:33 < h0h0> Iron-II and Iron-III 00:33 < Mike1> huebi: i thanks a lot for caring about my little effords on improving the distro, i know sometimes i bug you to much but as you already said you are the maintainer of the whole thing (also a developer i respect a lot) so your opinion about those matters is always important for me 00:34 < th> h0h0: jepp and iron-III-oxid is the red one. 00:34 < h0h0> and Iron-II-oxide is brown rust? 00:34 < th> no 00:34 < th> h0h0: the red one is brown too 00:34 < huebi> h0h0: It's black. 00:34 < th> h0h0: IIRC iron-II-oxid is black 00:34 < h0h0> ahh 00:34 < h0h0> ok 00:34 < h0h0> that works 00:35 < h0h0> damn I wish my school taught german 00:35 < h0h0> y no tengo que tomar espanol 00:35 < huebi> h0h0: or chemistry in normal life ;-> 00:36 < h0h0> huebi: all my chemistry knowledge comes from one single nearly worthless class 00:36 < Mike1> h0h0: yo pense que tu hablas español 00:36 < huebi> h0h0: Ok. That explains much. 00:36 < h0h0> que es pense? 00:37 < Mike1> thought 00:37 < fake> <- Anarchist Cookbook early adopt 00:37 < Mike1> like yo pense = i thought 00:37 < h0h0> yeah 00:37 < Mike1> btw hi th :) 00:38 < huebi> <- built about 50 tube b*mbs 20 years ago... 00:38 < h0h0> pipe bombs? 00:38 < h0h0> or electrical tubes? 00:38 < huebi> h0h0: ACK 00:38 < h0h0> SYN 00:38 < huebi> pipe bombs 00:38 < fake> huebi: hehe... we have more in common than i thought ;-) 00:39 < huebi> fake: hehe 00:39 < h0h0> hmm, I thought makeing bombs out of tubes was rather strange 00:39 * fake Goethes Erben with Joachim Witt - Glasgarten 00:39 < huebi> h0h0: no, very easy 00:39 < th> jo hi Mike1 00:39 < h0h0> tubes??? 00:39 < fake> huebi: do you knwo the "hellhound" ? 00:39 < h0h0> like they made ENIAC out of? 00:40 < fake> h0h0: plastic or metallic tubes of about 30 cms 00:40 < fake> h0h0: >_< noooooo 00:40 < huebi> steel tubes, of course 00:40 * Mike1 back to code 00:40 < fake> plasti has nice side effects 00:41 * h0h0 really wishes he could speak german now to find out what you are talking about 00:41 < h0h0> so these tube bombs != pipe bombs? 00:42 < huebi> h0h0: I think i mean pipes. steel pipes 1 1/4" of diametre 00:42 < fake> they are called pipe bombs, yes >-< 00:42 < h0h0> ok 00:42 * fake is uploading a nice song 00:42 < h0h0> go fake! nice songs! 00:43 < fake> hm... but it's german 00:43 < fake> huebi: did you listen into the other songs yet? 00:44 < huebi> fake: Yes. but I was almost too drunken to get it it completely. 00:45 < fake> -_- 00:47 < fake> i try not to listen to them when i'm drunk 00:47 < fake> (or otherwise intoxicated) 00:47 < h0h0> hehe, es el superusuario 00:48 < fake> they brind me down far to muchg 00:48 < h0h0> who 00:48 < fake> the songs 00:49 < h0h0> yeah, but what songs 00:49 < fake> Goethes Erben 00:49 < fake> or Joachim Witt aka Wolfsheim 00:49 < fake> both german -_- 00:50 < fake> but they are artists, not commercial songwriters 00:50 < fake> so they are pretty unknown 00:52 < huebi> NowHa. Megaherz! 00:52 < fake> Ahh... megaherz... 00:53 < fake> 65% 00:54 < th> n8 00:54 < fake> 70% 00:54 < huebi> in Mainz-Mombach - in the area where thalerim lives - there is a good hard rock club. Ramstein and megaherz played 00:54 < huebi> cu th 00:54 < th> b*mbs... mp3-trading... you forgot googlability of what you say? ;-> 00:55 < huebi> "Es ist nicht leicht ein Gott zu senn.." 00:55 < thalerim> Mombach ??? 00:55 < thalerim> eh well.. i do not know the region of mainz that good :-> 00:55 < fake> th: i don't care anymore -_- 00:55 < huebi> thalerim: Jo. Terminus it's called 00:55 < th> fake: thats a great idea 00:56 < th> *detach* 00:56 < fake> eh? 00:58 < fake> 95% 00:58 < fake> https://194.8.220.69/~fake/GoethesErben-Glasgarten.mp3 00:59 < fake> -finished- 00:59 < huebi> FUCK! Too drunk to drive. OK. I wait till next week in Vienna with dancing. I hope clifford makes good dancable music.. 00:59 < fake> clifford doesn't like metall/rock too much, iirc 01:00 < huebi> good danceable = constant bass and the rest doesn't matter too much. 01:01 < huebi> house music is good, too. But I don't like techno. 01:02 < huebi> megaherz is very good danceable. 01:03 < huebi> A friend of mine worked for a few years as a dj. She told me that with the bass/percussions. And she is very right with that. 01:03 < fake> huebi: did you get that song above? 01:03 < fake> it's not danceable, but i really like it 01:04 < fake> the contrary voices... 01:05 < huebi> mozilla died on that song... 01:05 < fake> o_O 01:06 < fake> well, it sure is a bit depressive, but i din't mean to convince your browser to commit suicide 01:06 < fake> wget is your friend 01:06 < huebi> fake: of course. ;-) 01:07 < fake> <- freut sich ein bisschen auf wien 01:12 < thalerim> ich geh pennen gn8 01:12 < fake> n8 thalerim 01:12 < huebi> n8 thalerim 01:12 < thalerim> 22stunden heute auf gewesen *urgs* 01:12 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p50813309.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("*schnarch*") 01:14 < fake> huebi: i don't want to bug you, but did you listen to the song? 01:14 < huebi> Das Grauen: ftp://ella/pub/15.Alte%20Geigen%20-%20Reprise.MP3 01:15 < huebi> its running 01:15 < huebi> fake: Piiiieeeeep. 01:16 < huebi> fake: Did sth went wrong? 01:16 < fake> eh? 01:16 < huebi> sound card trouble here 01:17 < fake> *argh* HUEBI! WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ME?!??! 01:17 * fake is going insane 01:17 < huebi> now it works 01:17 < fake> GNNNN NOOOOO HAVE ... TO... STOP... IT... *ARGH* 01:18 < fake> *phew* 01:18 < fake> that was close 01:18 * fake erases 15.Alte Geigen - Reprise.MP3 with "wipe" 01:18 < huebi> the driver emu10k is not really stable... 01:19 < huebi> fake: *LOOOL* 01:19 < fake> no problems here 01:19 < huebi> <- has been to a Heino concert 18 years ago *ggg* 01:19 < fake> <- *almost* has been to a concert of the "Kelly Family" 01:20 < huebi> fake: If I kill mpg123 with ctrl-c sometimes it does not wor anymore. 01:20 < huebi> s/wor/more/ 01:20 < huebi> bloedsinn. 01:20 < fake> it does not more anymore? 01:20 < fake> *g* 01:21 < fake> <- never encoutered any problems 01:21 < fake> use alsa. 01:21 < huebi> If I start mlpayer with an .avi it reinitialises well. 01:21 < huebi> alsa is fscked up in ROCK Linux. 01:25 < owl> huebi,fake: do you know cannibal corpse? or similar bands? 01:25 < fake> the amazone is alive again 01:26 < owl> fake: not really. i'm still almost dead. brain is gone :) 01:26 < huebi> owl: upload to ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/upload 01:27 < owl> eh? why? 01:27 < huebi> owl: Just do it. I want to here it. 01:27 < owl> ok. don't be shocked after listening to it ;) 01:27 < Freak> let's do the timewarp again! 01:28 < huebi> Freak: hehe 01:28 < huebi> Highheals in 47. 01:28 < Freak> (: 01:29 < fake> Es nicht meine Absicht meiner tat, den Kindern ihre traeume zu rauben, aber es wird besser sein sie zu toeten, um sie vor dem kommenden zu bewahren... Ein sanfter tod - unbemerkt - kann etwas sehr sehr schoenes sein... 01:29 < Freak> anyway 01:30 < Freak> take a jump to the left 01:30 < Freak> and then a step to the right 01:30 < Freak> :) 01:31 < fake> boy... cdparanoia is running since today morning 01:31 < huebi> fake: o_O 01:31 < fake> and just because i want some clawfinger while playing ut 01:32 < fake> huebi: cd lay in the rain 2 days and several people stepped on it 01:32 < Freak> lol 01:32 < fake> so cdparanoia takes its time... 01:32 < Freak> nice! 01:32 < Freak> that's how to handle cds 01:32 < huebi> UltraPlex 01:32 < fake> <- Plexstore UltraPlex 40x max 01:33 < huebi> Then the CD is platt. 01:33 < Freak> just don't let Phillips know 01:33 < Freak> hehe 01:33 < fake> die leute die draugestiegen sind hatten springerstiefel an, muss man dazu sagen. 01:33 < fake> <- getting another beer... 01:33 < Freak> ähm 01:33 < huebi> </AOL> me too <AOL> 01:34 < Freak> wieso das? 01:34 < fake> weil bier betaeubt? 01:34 < Freak> nein das davor 01:34 < Freak> warst in münchen? 01:34 < Freak> >:) 01:36 < fake> Freak: ich bin in MUC. aber die leute hatten springer an, weill es ne zeltparty war, und da traegt man eben feste schuhe... 01:36 < Freak> mmhh.. 01:36 < fake> is auch schon 2 jahre her 01:37 < Freak> mag man so oder so sehen. 01:37 < owl> huebi: cannibal corpse - hammer smashed face... upload laeuft. 01:37 < fake> . o O ( with isdn speed ) 01:37 < huebi> owl: danke 01:37 < fake> springerstiefel mit schwarzen schuhbaendern 01:37 < Freak> ja 01:37 < fake> muss ich dazusagen 01:37 < fake> weder rot noch weiss ;-) 01:37 < Freak> bei springerstiefeln geht mir trotzdem das messer in der tasche auf. 01:38 < fake> *schluck* 01:38 < owl> freak: danke. 01:38 < fake> dann stich mich auch ab, Freak 01:38 < Freak> bitte? 01:38 < Freak> ach ihr versteht mich nicht 01:38 < fake> <- springerstiefeltraeger 01:38 < Freak> bzw. falsch 01:39 < fake> was meinst denn? 01:39 < huebi> <- hat 'ne Schwester mit DocMartins. 01:39 < fake> Doc's sind springer fuer wannabes *g* 01:40 < huebi> fake: hehe 01:40 < Freak> ich mein ich halt besser meine klappe, entweder versteht ihr mich alle falsch oder ihr wollt mich falsch verstehen oder ich drück mich missverständlich aus oder wasweissich jedenfalls setze ich keine zeichen, indem ich insignien teile. 01:40 < owl> <- hat seit der 4.klasse springer ... 01:40 < fake> Freak: oh, nein, so is das nicht. fuer mich sind springer einfach schuhe. 01:40 < fake> Genau wie lederhosen 01:41 < huebi> owl: kannst du dadrin auch kaffee kochen? *LOOL* 01:41 < fake> du kaufst dir einmal springer, und das schuhe-problem ist fuer 15 Jahre oder laenger erledigt 01:41 < owl> huebi: noe. 01:41 < huebi> owl: hab' ich mir gedacht. 01:41 < fake> lederklamotten halten ein leben lang 01:42 < huebi> fake: besser Red Wing Schuhe. 01:42 < owl> huebi: auf unqualifizierte bemerkungen achte ich ab jetzt nicht mehr 01:42 < fake> ich bin marken-nicht-beachter. was is das huebi? 01:42 < fake> owl: gut das! 01:42 * Mike1 grabing 4th beer, maybe when get drunk he can understand what you guys are talking about 01:43 < owl> fake: warum denn? ;) 01:43 < Freak> hahaha :) 01:43 < fake> sorry Mike1 01:43 < Freak> Mike1: I'll fetch a drink as well now 01:43 < huebi> fake: AMI Arbeitsschuhe. halten bei uebelster Beanspruchung immer noch >2 Jahr 01:43 < fake> Mike1: about err... military boots and leather clothing and stuff 01:43 < fake> huebi: nice ;-) 01:43 < Mike1> fake: lol 01:44 < fake> that's not funny ;P 01:45 < huebi> fake: A lether throuser lasts only till the next motorcycle crash 01:45 < fake> huebi: that's a life's length *g* 01:45 < Mike1> huebi: you got a motorcycle? 01:45 < fake> if the trouser is really unreparably damaged, you're dead anyways 01:45 < huebi> Belstaff our Barbour Jackets are also very good. 01:46 < huebi> Mike1: I had 11 01:46 < Mike1> cool 01:46 < Mike1> i only have one 01:46 < fake> huebi: did you count the women you had, alos? 01:46 < fake> also 01:46 < huebi> now I have none. 01:46 < Mike1> as i race on motocross 01:46 < fake> j/k 01:46 < huebi> fake: no ;-) 01:47 * fake seriously tried to sum them up 01:47 < fake> but i always forgot some *dg* 01:47 < fake> boy... my youth was wild 01:47 < Mike1> fake: how old are u? 01:47 < fake> huebi: by the way, you might want to try "Crematory" 01:48 < fake> huebi: they are a bit like "Megaherz", just harder 01:48 < fake> Mike1: 20 01:48 < huebi> fake: souns kool 01:48 < fake> huebi: shall i... ? 01:48 < huebi> yep, please 01:48 < fake> k' 01:50 < fake> ncftp /upload > put "Crematory - Tears of time.mp3" 01:53 < Freak> scheisse wieso verkaufen die säcke eigentlich immer ungestanzte Breezer-Flaschen? 01:53 < Freak> die kriegste dann wieder nur mit der Zange auf 01:53 < Freak> son kack 01:53 < Freak> *zangesuch* 01:57 < fake> Breezer *schauder* 01:58 < fake> huebi: the first is finished 01:58 < fake> ncftp /upload > put "Crematory - Ist es wahr.mp3" 01:59 < huebi> Stoping Herzeleid... 01:59 < fake> rammstein rules, too 02:00 < Freak> fake: bier find ich eklig 02:01 < fake> Freak : wo wohnst du? *dg* 02:01 < fake> ein alien in bayern 02:02 < Freak> SEH ICH AUS WIEN BAYER?! 02:02 < Freak> NA SCHÖNEN DANK 02:02 * Freak ist und bleibt Bremer. 02:02 < fake> weiss ich nich, ich weiss ja auch nich wie du ausguggst *ph* 02:03 < Freak> also ich bin 1,87 groß, habe dunkelblondes, kurzes haar, blaugraue augen und meine hobbies sind.. 02:03 < owl> *lol* 02:03 * owl schmeisst sich weg 02:03 < Freak> <owl> bremer?!? 02:03 < Freak> <Freak> WAS DAGEGEN? 02:04 < huebi> Freak: meine Frau kommt aus Bremen (wenn auch in Muenchen geboren) 02:04 < Freak> wenn du's so siehst, komme ich dann aus Pforzheim, ich bin aber Bremer. 02:04 < Freak> okay 02:04 < Freak> Exilbremer. 02:04 < fake> Freak : WAS ISDT SCHLECHT DARAN, EIN BAYER ZU SEIN? 02:04 < Freak> BAYERN STINKEN 02:04 < fake> oops. scheiss shift-lock 02:05 < Freak> hehe 02:05 < owl> freak: danke vielmals 02:05 < Freak> ausreden. 02:05 < Freak> :) 02:05 < Freak> hehehe 02:05 < fake> <- bayer 02:05 < Freak> ihr stinkt alle 02:05 < huebi> Stoop I need first a beer. RThenn I want to see blood 02:05 < Freak> hahahaha 02:05 < huebi> OK. 02:05 < owl> huebi: besser als tv oder? ;P 02:05 < huebi> ACTION! 02:05 < huebi> owl: jo 02:05 < fake> ichj stinke bestialisch 02:05 * Freak holt sich Popcorn und lehnt sich dann zurück. 02:06 < Freak> du bist ja auchn bayer 02:06 < huebi> Crematory is kool 02:06 < Freak> muahahaha 02:06 < Freak> *feindemach* 02:06 < huebi> realy kool. 02:06 < huebi> +l 02:06 < fake> huebi: wait for the next soigns ;) 02:06 < huebi> fake: ACK 02:06 < fake> >_< songs 02:07 < fake> ETA 0:25 02:07 * huebi needs a beer resistant aspell for irssi 02:07 * Freak hat sich beim versuch, die Flasche mit dem Schraubenzieher zu öffnen, am linken Zeigefinger verletzt 02:07 < fake> Freak: fingernagel eiongerissen? 02:07 < Mike1> huebi: got a link for me to get some "Crematory" songs? 02:07 < owl> Freak: selbst schuld. 02:08 < Freak> jetzt holt er sich verbrennungen und quetschungen der rechten hand-innenfläche, beim versuch, das teil aufzudrehen. 02:08 < huebi> Freak: Au scheisse 02:08 * Mike1 interested in the stuff too 02:08 < fake> huebi: "Ist es wahr" is finished 02:08 < Freak> Mike1: heh 02:08 < Freak> Mike1: fetch a translation bot or something ;) 02:08 < huebi> Mike1: Freak injures himself. 02:08 < Mike1> Freak: i understand a little german too 02:08 < Freak> isnt it to be hisself? 02:09 < Freak> I know that :) 02:09 < huebi> too dump to get a botlle opened. 02:09 < Freak> ok 02:09 < Freak> now wait 02:09 < Freak> I take pictures! 02:09 < Freak> I have PROOF 02:09 < Freak> I'm injured! 02:09 < Freak> and it burns burns burns 02:09 < Mike1> Freak: how the hell did you get injured? 02:09 < owl> Freak: you're insane. not insured. 02:09 < owl> s,insured,injured 02:10 < fake> but injured 02:10 < Mike1> owl: of course he is insane he is a Freak 02:10 < huebi> Freak: Are you a "Schlitzpisser"? - then it's herself 02:10 < fake> huebi: you are drunk 02:10 < huebi> fake: ACK. 02:10 < Mike1> talking about frunks... 02:10 * Mike1 grabs another beer 02:10 < fake> me too *eg* 02:11 < Freak> stinky bavarian fools 02:11 < Mike1> s/frunks/drunks 02:11 < huebi> <AOL> me too <AOL/> 02:11 < Freak> now I will prove my injures to yoo! 02:11 < fake> Freak: huebi is not bavarian ;P 02:11 < Mike1> Freak: how did you get injured? 02:11 < huebi> Freak: That's not really kool if you have an insurance for that. 02:12 < fake> Freak: and iut's not the beer thatr made me... like i am now ;p ;P 02:12 < Freak> I don't give shit, bavarians stink. period. 02:12 < Freak> Mike1: trying to open a bottle 02:12 < owl> Freak: no, no and finally: no!!! 02:12 < huebi> <- comes from Lower Saxony 02:12 < fake> Freak: your actions shifted you 5 points towards evil. 02:12 < Mike1> Freak: how the hell could anyone ever get hurt opening a bottle? 02:13 < Freak> Mike1: I can manage it 02:13 < Freak> and I have PROOF 02:13 < huebi> Mike1: Only real masochists can achive that. 02:13 * fake is real masochist 02:13 < Freak> Mike1: don't listen to the stinky bavarian-friend 02:13 < Mike1> huebi: actually you have to be a Freak to do it 02:14 < huebi> brb. geting more beer 02:16 < Freak> https://linuid.dhis.org/~freak/guckmal/PROOF!/ 02:16 < Freak> owie. 02:16 < Freak> I'm hurt! 02:16 < Freak> and all you do is laugh! 02:17 * fake laughes even louder 02:17 < Freak> HA! 02:17 < Freak> I MANAGED IT! 02:17 < Freak> WHADDAYASAY NOW! 02:17 * Freak is godlike. 02:17 < Freak> and injured 02:17 < Freak> and unstinky. 02:17 < fake> adept - inhuman - godlike - Fre4ak 02:17 < Freak> AND THAT'S THAT! 02:17 < fake> -4 02:17 < fake> huebi: Temple of Love finished ( a Sisters of Mercy covger) 02:18 < owl> Freak: and almost dead! wait a second! /me is going to kill Freak 02:18 < Freak> stinky bavarian dirn, komm nur 02:18 < owl> Freak: shut up! 02:18 < fake> dirndl ;) 02:19 < owl> fake: w0s? 02:19 * fake stellt sich owl im dirndl vor 02:19 < Mike1> Freak: wanna hear a story about an injury? 02:20 < huebi> owl: wearing a "dirndl" and Armyboots - good picture *g* 02:20 < Freak> altho it was overwhelming, I wasn't able to take stinking-samples from bavaria. 02:20 < Freak> Mike1: yezz pleeez 02:20 * fake is a live sample 02:20 < Freak> cheers, stinky bavarians and fellow-sufferers 02:20 < owl> huebi: omg!! never! 02:21 < owl> armybots - yes. but no "dirndl" 02:21 < huebi> owl: Not even for a joke? 02:21 < owl> huebi: no. 02:21 < fake> but i like girls waering dirndls *g* 02:21 < huebi> and red pumps? 02:21 < owl> fake: *lol* 02:21 < owl> fake: you should ask my grandma... might she 'll do it :PPP 02:21 < Mike1> 3 years ago i was on Mountain Bike race, got of the trail and went down a 60mts hill full of rocks and trees. i broke my left shoulder, my arm, hurt my neck, i had to get a surgery on my spine, so thats wht i call an ijure 02:22 < Mike1> injure* 02:22 < huebi> owl: Only fresh virgin meat is accepted 02:22 < owl> huebi: haha! forget it. 02:22 < fake> <- made first almost-death experiences with 9 yrs 02:22 < Mike1> and thats not counting the scratches, and other small hurts i had that also hurt as hell 02:23 < fake> huebi: i need virgin mat at for other things *eg* 02:23 < fake> meat for, that is 02:23 < huebi> owl: You will never be as nasty as you try to be. hehe 02:24 < owl> huebi: why do you think so? 02:24 < huebi> Mike1: That sound really bad. 02:24 < Freak> https://linuid.dhis.org/~freak/guckmal/PROOF!/.cache/100x75-Verletzung%20-%20verdeutlichende%20Darstellung.jpg 02:24 < Freak> oopsie 02:24 < Freak> https://linuid.dhis.org/~freak/guckmal/PROOF!/Verletzung%20-%20verdeutlichende%20Darstellung.jpg 02:25 < Freak> that is: Verletzung - verdeutlichende Darstellung. 02:25 < Mike1> huebi: yeah but i am totally recovered now :) 02:25 < huebi> Mike1: That's really great. 02:25 < huebi> nice toi hear that. 02:26 < fake> i think i will nevebr recover 02:26 < huebi> Freak: I want blood! This is just for wimps. The finger is not cut of. So please shut up. 02:27 < huebi> fake: You're right. But only after we arrived in vienna. hehe 02:27 < Mike1> perhaps fake is got a knife and wanna bring some real blood out of Freak's finger 02:27 < Freak> huebi: IT IS BLEEDING! 02:27 < fake> if'd never hurt somebody else first 02:27 < Freak> I have a monstrously big pflaster on it now! 02:27 < Mike1> huebi: thanks, it took me just a few months for me to feel ok and get on my bike again :) 02:27 < fake> huebi: i dopn't think you can shock me 02:28 < fake> huebi: and "Das Licht in dir" just fnished 02:28 < fake> and that's it for now 02:28 < Freak> and it's itching! 02:28 < Freak> it HURRRRTS! 02:28 < Freak> dammit 02:28 < Freak> stinky bavarians 02:28 * Mike1 wornder if someone will ever give him some "Crematory" songs 02:28 < Freak> stinky bavarians don't know PAIN yet 02:28 < Freak> *braaaaaaiiiiins* 02:29 < Mike1> Freak: dont be chicken shit is just a little injure :) 02:29 < huebi> Freak: It is only bleeding when blood comes out in the rythem of yopur heard. 02:29 < owl> Freak: what do you want? brain? oh i see *vbeg* 02:30 < Freak> owl: Freak no wantin yoo. owl brain tWoo schmall! 02:30 < fake> Freak: you think i don't know pain? 02:30 < Freak> bavarians will FEELZ the PAIIIN 02:30 < Freak> when I getcha BRAAAAAAAINS 02:31 < fake> *shakes head* 02:31 < fake> b4k4 02:34 < Mike1> Freak: you got a problem with bavarians? 02:34 < huebi> Mike1: ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/pub/music/ 02:35 < owl> Mike1: not yet, but he will become a big problem if he won't shut up :P 02:35 < fake> when shall i become my beefsteak, waiter? 02:35 < fake> I hope never sir 02:36 < fake> become = werden, to get = bekommen 02:36 < Freak> Mike1: me wanz them braaaaaaaains 02:36 < huebi> Freak: I got the brain out of a cow. was quite interestin. You have to stirr the grey mass very well inside the head to get it out of the base of the scull. 02:36 < fake> huebi: o_O why did you do that? 02:37 < huebi> I wanted to have a cow skull. 02:37 < Mike1> huebi: thanks :) 02:37 < huebi> *flump* next beer. 02:37 < owl> fake: thx. 02:37 < fake> was is a female cow? then it's ok. 02:37 < Mike1> owl: is from bavaria too? 02:37 < owl> Mike1: yeah. 02:38 < Mike1> huebi: where are you from? 02:38 < huebi> owl: <- "Out Of Rosenheim" 02:38 < owl> huebi: nooooo! 02:38 < fake> Neuburg 02:38 < fake> Newcastle *g* 02:38 < huebi> owl: You are not a fat ugly dump bitch? 02:38 < Freak> huebi: lol 02:38 < fake> we once had a good public gothic party there... 02:38 < Freak> hey! 02:39 < Freak> this movie is great! 02:39 < Freak> don't make fun of it 02:39 < owl> huebi: who knows 02:39 < huebi> Freak: ACK 02:39 < huebi> owl: URL of a photo of you? 02:39 < fake> "Kinder der Nacht"... Dark Angels Party I im Marstall 02:39 < owl> huebi: the only things i know are that i'm insane, stupid, a NULL and so on. 02:40 < owl> huebi: https://www.closeup.de/articles/large/737180.jpg 02:40 < fake> the Marstall Neuburg really is acool location 02:40 < owl> fake: why do you think so? 02:40 < huebi> owl: and I never believe that untill you forced my logic thinking to believe you. 02:40 < Freak> shit I don't find that comic.. 02:40 < Freak> anymore.. 02:40 < Freak> shit shit shit 02:41 < huebi> owl: I don't *click* on that. dcc one. 02:41 < fake> owl: because it's big, it's dark, it looks like an old castle hallway, and - it's empty! 02:41 < owl> huebi: forget it. 02:42 < fake> almost looks like a mausoleum from the inside 02:42 < owl> fake: yeah. but i guess the castle is much more great... or do you know the "catacombs" in "speyrer dom"? 02:42 < fake> . o O ( and with a working nebular machine ) 02:42 < huebi> owl: do you come to vienna? or are you too "schuechtern"? 02:42 < Freak> shy 02:42 < fake> huebi: wir koennten sie entfuehren, ich weiss wo sie wohnt 02:42 < huebi> Freak: thanks 02:42 < fake> *eg* 02:43 < huebi> fake: Yes. 02:43 < huebi> Good idea. 02:43 < Freak> mich wollte sie nicht mal in icq adden und ihr wisst schon wo sie wohnt.. tsäs 02:43 < owl> huebi: a) ich bin mkein dev von rock b) meine eltern wuerden mich _nie_ lassen c) weiss ich noch nicht ob ich arbeiten muss (auch wen ich urlaub habe) d) schuechtern e) wie soll ich dahin kommen? 02:44 < owl> Freak: *lol* ja. fake kenne ich auch aus dem RL. 02:44 < fake> a) schnauze b) bring sie um c) tus einfach nicht d) mei e) mit huebi und mir *g* 02:44 < owl> fake: sicher, dass ich die fahrt ueberleben wuerde? ;) 02:45 < fake> kommt drauf an ob du lebend einsteigst 02:45 < Freak> owl: omg 02:45 < owl> fake: *g* noe, in meinem zustand ned lebending einsteigend :) 02:46 < Freak> also ihr müsst jetzt alle wach bleiben 02:46 < Freak> damit ich nach dem comic suchen kann 02:46 < fake> wiefo? 02:46 < huebi> owl: If you're not stinking you can come with us. 02:46 < Freak> der mein BRAAAAAAINS erklärt ;) 02:46 < fake> www.megatokyo.com DER COMIC 02:47 < huebi> ROCK Linux - the best text adventure 02:48 < fake> ROCK Linux - the best sex adventure ( fuer moenche ) 02:49 < fake> huebi: but i stink 02:49 < Freak> yup 02:49 < Freak> stinky bavarian 02:49 < owl> Freak: ... 02:50 < fake> Freak: i hate bavarians, too...especially me. 02:50 < Freak> what, stinky bavarian girl who doesnt add me? 02:50 < Freak> guys pleeeeeze just don't take me serious ;) 02:50 < huebi> fake: real men do stink. Only wimps ignore that. 02:51 < owl> Freak: here! /me doesn't add you! 02:51 < Freak> yoo meen bavarian woman also stinky non-wimpy men? 02:51 < Freak> owl: you have yes also all ground. 02:51 < huebi> *LOOOL* 02:51 < fake> i'm not a real man. i don't even have a motorcycle. how could i be a man? 02:52 < Freak> how? 02:52 < Freak> you still stink ;) 02:53 < owl> Freak: how many bottles of beer did you drunk today? 02:53 < fake> wobei ich vor dem bayerischen bildungsministerium den hut ziehe - nachdem ich in NRW auf der schule war 02:53 < huebi> fake: just writ 816 on a wall - replaces a motorbike 02:53 < fake> 816 ? 02:53 < fake> BIG ? 02:54 < huebi> Hells Angel Forever. 02:54 < huebi> +s 02:54 < fake> 816 ? how is that ment to become HAF ? 02:54 < Freak> owl: I do not drink stinky beer. 02:55 < owl> Freak: .... 02:56 < huebi> <- has been working as cheif engineer at Buell Germany (now a Harley Davidson Company) for 2 years. 02:56 < huebi> Freak: not drunken and that confused? .oO 02:57 < Freak> that is: normalzustand. 02:59 < huebi> Freak: hmm.. 03:01 * fake Silke Bischof - Hold Me 03:02 < huebi> fake: URL? 03:02 < fake> hehe 03:02 < fake> i'll upload it 03:02 < fake> last song for today 03:02 < huebi> fake: dankoe 03:03 < fake> huebi: i'll tkae my mp3 collection along to vienna ;) 03:03 < huebi> kool. And I take a few tape drives with me. 03:03 < fake> Welcome to FTP service for thalerim. ? 03:04 * owl will go to bed right now. 03:04 < owl> cu later. gn8 03:04 < fake> n8 owl! 03:04 < huebi> owl: scwaechlest du etwa? 03:04 < huebi> nacht owl 03:04 < fake> Koffeeinallergikerin *g* 03:05 < huebi> fake: hehe 03:05 < owl> haha. ich habe die letzten wochen so viel von dem zeug genommen, mir ist uebel nur noch davon... 03:05 < owl> aber egal. urlaub -> kein koffein. -> schlafen. ciao 03:05 < fake> ciao 03:06 < fake> huebi: is you connection somehow overused? 03:06 < Mike1> n8 owl 03:06 < huebi> in this moment not 03:06 < fake> ah, now 03:06 < huebi> sleep well owl. 03:06 < huebi> come to vienna. 03:07 < huebi> huebi@zeus:~$ find . -name "*mp3" |wc -l 03:07 < huebi> 15417 03:09 < huebi> I bring my mp3's and mpg's also to Vienna 03:09 < fake> br1ng j00r 0wn pr0n p4rty ? 03:10 < fake> hehe. smp will come. so there will be lots of pr0n *eg* 03:10 < huebi> *LooL8 03:10 * Mike1 regrets not to be able to go to wien :(( 03:10 < fake> Mike1: why not? 03:10 < huebi> I think "lolita" has not so much disk space 03:11 < fake> +rofl* lolita 03:11 < fake> that was my idea, IIRC ;-) 03:11 < Mike1> fake: if i go now i wont be able to be at 19c3 03:12 < fake> Mike1 : oh.... then go to 19c3. there will be more rock people there. 03:12 < Mike1> fake: and also my boss has been a little paranoid so he wouldnt let me have some vacation now 03:12 < Mike1> fake: for sure 03:12 < Mike1> fake: actually i will go to 19c3 then i go visit some friends in augsburg and places around 03:12 < huebi> Mike1: 19C3 is very interesting. More People but all in german. 03:13 < fake> augsburg? kewl! thats like 60 km from my place XD 03:13 < Mike1> huebi: you mean all conferences and papers in german? 03:13 < Mike1> and people speaking ONLY german? 03:13 < Mike1> fake: ich wiess 03:13 < Mike1> i might get to visit you when i go to esden's 03:14 < fake> Mike1: the rock folk will speak enghlish when you are around 03:14 < huebi> Mike1: Most people are speaking also englih. but the conferences are in german. 03:14 < fake> but the default language there is german, until someone begs for english 03:14 < Freak> AHHH ICH HAB DEN COMIC GEFUNDEN! 03:14 < Mike1> huebi: no problem fake will translate for me 03:14 < Mike1> *eg* 03:14 < fake> o_O 03:14 < huebi> hehe 03:15 < fake> to prtuguesae *g* 03:15 * Mike1 will beg for english 03:15 < Mike1> fake: eu fallo portuguess :) 03:15 < Mike1> but my mother language is spanish 03:15 < fake> mi casa es su casa 03:15 < huebi> Well I know a Gilr from CR. Perhaps she wants to do that. 03:15 < Mike1> huebi: cool she lives there? 03:15 < fake> asstamaniana 03:16 < Freak> not closely.... 03:16 < Mike1> fake: actually hasta mañana :) 03:16 < fake> Que? 03:16 < Freak> give me another 5mins 03:16 < huebi> Mike1: about 250km from Berlin. 03:16 < huebi> or 200 03:16 < fake> Mike1: i only heard it from a spanish friend... 03:16 < Mike1> huebi: she'll be there? 03:17 < huebi> Mike1: I don't think so. 03:17 < huebi> sorry 03:17 < Mike1> fake: lol my accept is way TOO different from some one who lives in Spain 03:17 < fake> huebi: Silke Bischoff - Hold Me.mp3 has finished 03:17 < Mike1> huebi: oh ok 03:18 < Freak> GOTCHA 03:18 < Freak> https://www.altbrand.com/solitaryconfinement/destructo03.php 03:18 < Mike1> huebi: i finished to apply the patched for gnome2 i had sent, now i will include the rest of the packages 03:18 * fake watched Apocalypse Now! yesterday 03:19 < fake> i throwed myself away 03:19 < Freak> threw 03:19 < fake> "I love the smell of napalm in the morning" 03:19 < Freak> >;P 03:19 < fake> Freak: snobbish bremer 03:19 < Freak> stinky bavarian fool 03:19 < Freak> will eat.. BRAAAAAAAINS 03:21 < fake> ... 03:21 < fake> wannabe :P 03:22 < huebi> fake: I had to work with a man involved in that war "very interesting" experience. 03:23 < fake> huebi: they all went mad... 03:24 < huebi> fake: ACK. 03:24 < huebi> Very bay for the US to kill all their souls. 03:24 < fake> huebi: do you know apocalypse now? 03:24 < huebi> fake: Yes. 03:25 < huebi> s/bay/bad 03:25 < fake> "Charlie - surft - nicht !" 03:25 < huebi> music by "Wagner" 03:26 < fake> YES 03:26 < fake> i really laughed my ass off 03:26 < Mike1> huebi: i now have the crematory songs thank you so much 03:26 < fake> but the end is ueber-psycho 03:26 < huebi> Mike1: you're welcome. 03:26 < huebi> ;-) 03:26 < fake> Mike1: what do you say? 03:26 < fake> do you like that kind of music? 03:28 < huebi> War is absolutly not normal. To survive it many soldiers had to become insane. 03:29 < fake> huebi: yes. it's self-protection 03:29 < Mike1> fake: hell yeah 03:30 < Mike1> fake: got some more of this stuff for me? 03:30 < fake> Mike1: my connection is really crappy here 03:31 < huebi> fake: owls it worse 03:31 < Mike1> fake: :( 03:31 < fake> Mike1: i don't have anymore good Crematory songs 03:31 < fake> at least i don't think the others are equally good 03:31 < Mike1> you guys maybe we could have an agreement to help eachother 03:32 < Mike1> i could provide some space on my station on weekends so anyone here could donwload and upload stuff 03:32 < Mike1> i have a t1 so it could be fast enought to share 03:32 < Mike1> what do you say? 03:33 < fake> sw33t 03:34 < fake> i'll start uploading when i'm back to work .... 03:34 < fake> ... my firm is now officially bankrupt, by the way 03:34 < fake> we will stop business by 30. Aug 2002 03:34 < fake> -_- 03:34 < fake> and i'll go to bed now 03:35 < fake> <- still has no real bed 03:35 < Mike1> fake: ok 03:35 < huebi> fake reminds me to get my field bed to vienna 03:35 < Mike1> n8 fake 03:35 < huebi> cu fake 03:35 < huebi> fake: sleep well 03:35 < fake> huebi: yeah, i thought about that right now, too ;-) 03:36 < fake> thanks, sleep even better you two 03:36 < Mike1> huebi: how many hours a day do you sleep? 03:36 < fake> and you too, Berner snob ;P 03:36 < huebi> Mike1: about 5 to 6 03:36 < fake> *detach* 03:39 < Mike1> huebi: how come i sleep 3 - 4 and even like that you are always here when i log in and whn i log out? 03:41 < Freak> hmm 03:44 < huebi> </AOL> hmm too <AOL> 03:58 < huebi> Mike1: I don't know. But I go to slep soon now, 03:58 < Mike1> huebi: sure my friend 03:59 < Mike1> have some very nice sleep :) 03:59 < huebi> rock-debug now builds. then I create a new cd Image. 03:59 < huebi> <- has to setup his gatway 03:59 < Mike1> cool 04:00 < huebi> Mike1: when Will Gnome2 be tested? 04:00 < Mike1> todays 04:01 < Mike1> i am just finishing to add a few packages that i am missing 04:01 < huebi> kool 04:01 < Mike1> i guess there will be some broken packages so i will be working around the conf files tomorrow 04:01 < Mike1> as i wont be online anyways 04:02 < Mike1> on monday i will get in touch with you and tell you how did i go 04:02 < Mike1> and let [anders] test my tree with all the stuff i made untill that 04:02 < Mike1> how does that sound to you? 04:03 < Mike1> even if you like i can let you have the private tree as well 04:03 < huebi> very nice. In Vienna Gnome2 could be finished I think. 04:04 < Mike1> is the meeting next weekend? 04:05 < huebi> from the 7th to the 11th 04:05 < Mike1> that gives me and [anders] one week 04:06 < huebi> and the time there, too 04:06 < Mike1> huebi: i will work as hard as posible on this and as you said we could have gnome2 finished by then 04:07 < Mike1> and included on cvs on the other week if everything works good enought 04:07 < huebi> Mike1: I think so, too 04:07 < Mike1> huebi: if we succeed on this we will go for evolution and multi cd stuff :) 04:08 < huebi> great 04:09 < Mike1> funny thing i was hesitating on working on already released snaps now i am working on a private tree with untested stuff and feel confident 04:10 < Mike1> huebi: you have been teaching me a lot thank you 04:10 < huebi> Mike1: I was a great pleasure to teach you that things. 04:11 < huebi> Mike1: Thank you to let me do it. 04:12 < Mike1> huebi: of course Master :) 04:12 < Mike1> just hope you still keep teaching me 04:12 < Mike1> i think i have made a lot of progress during the past few weeks 04:12 < Mike1> thought thats only my point of view 04:13 < huebi> Mike1: Yes, you did. 04:13 < Mike1> hopefully working around gnome2 well help more :) 04:18 < Mike1> excellent 26 gnome2 packages ready to be tested, still missing 35 though :( 04:18 < huebi> Mike1: look good. 04:20 < Mike1> huebi: mmm yeah but i dont think i will finish with all if them tonight 04:20 < Mike1> ahh .. i will keep working a few more hours :) 04:21 < huebi> here apmd and kdepim fails. But thats all. 04:22 < Mike1> nice 04:33 < huebi> good night. I go to sleep 04:33 < Mike1> nacht huebi 05:23 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@3ffe:80ee:7c6:0:0:0:0:fe] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05:36 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@dhcp024-210-222-139.woh.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux 05:37 < Mike1> re h0h0 05:56 -!- FooJam [~wanker@pcp604476pcs.nash01.tn.comcast.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:56 < Mike1> hi FooJam 05:56 < FooJam> speaking of CVS 05:56 < FooJam> Hola 05:57 < Mike1> FooJam: ? 05:57 < FooJam> thought id ask this 05:57 < Mike1> sure whats up? 05:57 < FooJam> I use Tortoise now, but looking for a CVS server that supports SSH2 PKA know of any? 05:58 < FooJam> prob not the area to ask but i saw the CVS reference hehe 05:58 < FooJam> just tell me to go away if its not :) 05:58 < Mike1> FooJam: not sure 05:59 < FooJam> k 05:59 < FooJam> well thought id ask, be cool 05:59 < Mike1> but i think it is supported on any 05:59 < FooJam> k 05:59 < Mike1> i use rsync and it is possible 05:59 < Mike1> but i have not much experience with cvs sorry 05:59 < FooJam> you tried, least you had a pulse :) Many dont 05:59 < FooJam> peace 05:59 < Mike1> have a look at the cvs doc you may find ur answer there 06:00 -!- FooJam [~wanker@pcp604476pcs.nash01.tn.comcast.net] has left #rocklinux () 08:55 < huebi> moin Mike1 08:56 < Mike1> mojn huebi :) 08:56 < Mike1> moin* 08:57 < Mike1> sleeped well my friend? 08:59 < huebi> yes. And too short and too much beer yesterday. 09:04 < Mike1> lol 09:04 < Mike1> i run out of beer about an hour ago 09:04 < Mike1> thought i didnt get drunk 09:05 < Mike1> right night i am fetching private tree sources and fixing gnome2 cksum-errors 09:08 < huebi> I'm fixing install-disks 09:08 < Mike1> good 09:08 < huebi> too much stuff for the installdisk 09:08 < Mike1> btw are you still going to create install disks with support for reiserfs and ext3? 09:08 < Mike1> i am pretty interested on those 09:08 < huebi> Mike1: yes, of course. 09:09 < Mike1> good 09:09 < Mike1> because i am sure that once we get them a lot more production servers will run rock 09:11 < huebi> Yes. for a production server a journaled fs is a must. 09:11 < Mike1> i know very well that many people think that we are adding to much features, but honestely i dont want the "old style build" to simply disapear when 1.6.0 is released, i would like it to continue as a pararell work, even if only a few us use it and work on it 09:13 < huebi> Mike1: That's also my intention. The time till 1.7 get usable and the even longer time till it gets stable will be too long. And not all features of 1.7 are needed for a good "Distribution Build Kit" 09:14 < Mike1> huebi: definitly 09:15 < Mike1> its funny but i believe that we are pretty much turning to the right way with the ideas that we have for the future and the ones that have been achived already 09:16 < huebi> ACK. 09:16 < Mike1> i have great spectatives the results that we will have :) 09:19 < Mike1> i know that i am not as skilled as you or [anders] are or even as a lot of people here are, but i think i am just starting to cooperate, and that there is a lot of work that i can contribute with 09:20 < huebi> Mike1: We still have a very good results. And I can see if there is more direct guidance of the user directly from the scripts, ROCK Linux will be more easy to use and then also get many more users. 09:21 < Mike1> ACK 09:23 < huebi> Mike1: You just have other skills and you actually do sth on ROCK Linux. And only that counts. If you have questions about ROCK it's a problem of ROCK not to have taken care of your skill level and not your problem;-) 09:24 < Mike1> lol 09:25 < Mike1> so i can actually blame the 1.5 tree maintainer whn i dont understand something? 09:25 * Mike1 *evil grin* 09:25 < huebi> Mike1: Yep and the people who wrote the code. 09:26 < Mike1> oh well i feel more confident and oriented withthe time 09:26 < Mike1> i no longer feel lost 09:27 < Mike1> i know how to fix the common problems and pretty much how everything works around 09:27 < Mike1> well thats because i have a great master :) 09:27 < huebi> Einstein said a long time ago sth like this: "Really good things are easy." And he was fscking right with that. 09:29 < Mike1> huebi: yeah some people believe that the only way rock can become easy is be turning it into another userfriendly ""distro"", i certainly dont share this option, i believe that if things are well commented and the code is clean, anyone can work around easilly, without been an experienced linux guy 09:30 < huebi> ACK. Only a few things are needed to be known then. 09:32 < Mike1> yup which is exactly the way that we are going to :) 09:47 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A76.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 09:48 < Mike1> moin snyke 09:49 < snyke> moin 09:50 < huebi> moin snyke 10:03 < blindcoder> moin everyone 10:03 < huebi> hi blindcoder 10:04 < Mike1> hi blindcoder 10:05 < blindcoder> hi Mike1, huebi 10:08 < blindcoder> a kernel build on a SS20 takes quite some time... 10:08 < huebi> blindcoder: joo.. 10:08 -!- nAdIA [~nando@cii.udea.edu.co] has joined #rocklinux 10:09 < nAdIA> H! 10:09 < Mike1> welcome nAdIA 10:09 < nAdIA> Buenas madrugadas 10:09 < blindcoder> hi nAdIA 10:10 < nAdIA> aa exelente 10:10 < Mike1> nAdIA: actually 90% of the people her are from germany 10:10 < Mike1> so its 10am over there 10:11 < nAdIA> ok here 3:05 AM =) 10:11 < huebi> hi nAdIA. Where are you from? 10:12 < nAdIA> im colombian 10:12 < huebi> Thank you nAdIA 10:12 < huebi> I'm german 10:13 < nAdIA> good!, nice to meet you 10:13 < huebi> nice to meet you, too. 10:13 < Mike1> huebi: nAdIA is trying to get more information regarding rock 10:13 < Mike1> perhaps you might wanna give her one of those nice explanations that only you can give :) 10:14 < huebi> nAdIA, Mike1: OK just ask. ;-) 10:17 < Mike1> huebi: how are you doing with the install-disks? 10:17 < huebi> still too big 10:18 < Mike1> mmm... size = ? 10:19 < huebi> 2830 blocks with fs 10:20 < huebi> only 10 blocks are left. Thats not enough for lilo to write the map 10:36 < Mike1> huebi: mmm true 10:36 < Mike1> what are you adding on it? 10:39 < huebi> the new kernel is bigger. 10:40 < Mike1> perhaps some stuff could be removed? 10:40 < nAdIA> yep 10:41 < Mike1> huebi: also i dont know if you are currenlty working on the install-disks with support for reiserfs and ext3 but i think we should keep each one of then independant 10:41 < huebi> Mike1: ACK. 10:41 < Mike1> otherwise the bzImage will be huge! 10:42 < huebi> In the moment I just want to have a bootable CD 10:42 < Mike1> <AOL> me too </AOL> 10:44 < huebi> I kicked out the SCSI modules. now it's small enough. 10:44 < nAdIA> byte byte 10:44 < nAdIA> see Ya! 10:44 < Mike1> gutte nacht nAdIA 10:44 < huebi> cu nAdIA 10:44 < huebi> sleep well nAdIA 10:44 < nAdIA> thx huebi 10:45 * Mike1 is 1/2 a bit sleepy , getting a red bull can :) 10:46 -!- nAdIA [~nando@cii.udea.edu.co] has quit ("Byte Byte") 10:48 < Mike1> so i guess we'll have to make another adiational image for scsi support 10:50 < huebi> Mike1: Well, it needs something new. I think about it later. 10:53 < Mike1> ja 11:00 < Mike1> huebi: when we make multicd install, would you like to add kde and gnome to the cd2 ? 11:00 < Mike1> note that cd2 != ext 11:09 < huebi> Mike1: This is now the size of the CD: 286256 extents written (559 Mb) 11:09 < Mike1> mm... 11:10 < huebi> I removed rescue, rfc and some Xfree86 docs. 11:10 < Mike1> ah i see 11:10 < huebi> I put back the XFree86 docs 11:10 < Mike1> very nice :) 11:11 < huebi> If we get a full featured rescue system on the bootable CD we have all we need I think. 11:11 < Mike1> yes 11:12 < huebi> Only a few more boot images are needed to get the CD booted everywhere 11:12 < Mike1> true 11:12 < Mike1> and a few utils in root disks :) 11:13 < huebi> There can also be a netboot/install image on it 11:13 < Mike1> eg mkreiserfs and and ext3 :) 11:13 < huebi> The CD can also be booted as a netinstall server. 11:13 < Mike1> huebi: i have been thinking about netinstall too, even metion it a couple of times but no one cared, glad you want it to be done :) 11:13 < huebi> The Whole CD can be the root. Then we have plenty of space on it.' 11:14 < Mike1> yeah thats cool 11:15 < huebi> We only need several boot images on it because the harddisk emulation of many CD-ROMs does not work fine. 11:16 < huebi> But floppy boot almost everytime succides 11:17 < Mike1> yup 11:18 < huebi> We first will boot off of a floppy(-image), mount then the CDROM as / 11:20 < Mike1> err .... always necesary to use floppys? 11:21 * Mike1 would prefer to boot directly from cd 11:21 < huebi> I prefer it, too 11:22 < huebi> But floppy images are the start of it. 11:22 < Mike1> you mean as a temporary solution? 11:22 < huebi> No 11:23 < huebi> On a bootable CDROM is just a floppy image which is booted 11:23 < Mike1> mm... 11:23 < huebi> 1.44MB and 2.88MB (old IBM floppy format) are possible. 11:25 < Mike1> huebi: i guess but i still dont like the idea of booting from floppies ... 11:26 < huebi> A cdrom boot emulates a floppy drive. So the same image can be used for booting off of a cd and off of a floppy. 11:26 < Mike1> ok thats much better :) 11:27 < huebi> Mike1: Sorry that I did not express it as clear as nessesary 11:27 < Mike1> huebi: no its ok, is just that i am a little sleepy 11:28 < Mike1> its almost 4 am here and i have hardly sleep 2-3 hours in the past 2 days 11:29 < huebi> hmm. I suggest sleep ;-) 11:33 < Mike1> huebi: yeah but in a few more hours 11:33 < Mike1> i want to finish a few morethings before i go to bed 11:34 < Mike1> other wise i will not be able sleep with all that code in my head 11:34 < Mike1> :) 11:38 < huebi> ;-) 11:57 < huebi> Mike1: Do you like the music of Lisa Stansfield? 11:58 < Mike1> never heard her, but if you have something for me i can hear it and tell you :) 11:59 * huebi ripping... 11:59 * Mike1 waiting 12:04 < owl> good morning 12:04 * huebi compiling lame 12:04 * owl is going to kill her father. *argh* 12:04 < Mike1> moin owl 12:04 < huebi> good morning owl ;-) 12:04 < huebi> owl: which gun do you prefer for that? 12:05 < Mike1> huebi: a cup of coffee of course 12:05 < owl> i still don't know. maybe (how is it called in half life) i guess it's the sniper...??? 12:05 < owl> Mike1: no, that takes too much time 12:06 < Mike1> not for you :) 12:06 < huebi> "Shot by a cup of coffee" nice 12:06 < owl> wuah. how stupid can a human be? see my father. he even can't use windows 98 with office installed! damn, damn, damn!!! 12:07 * owl is running against a wall and hopes her brain will be destroyed by this 12:07 < huebi> https://users.intercomm.com/agw/paula-wr.jpg <- owl 12:09 < huebi> owl: I can't use Windows, too. *g* I can only use unix 12:09 < Mike1> huebi: what is windows? 12:09 < huebi> https://users.intercomm.com/agw/flame1.jpg <- father strikes back 12:10 < huebi> Mike1: This stuff to close holes in walls 12:10 < owl> huebi: yeah. but if my father would have to use *nix, then he would kill me! damn! 12:10 < Mike1> huebi: ah 12:11 < owl> huebi: *loooooooooool* 12:11 < Mike1> also i have heard it is like suse but with a bunch more of bugs and very limited, how true is this? 12:12 < owl> more bugs... no. you can't say this. 12:12 < huebi> SuXE is a GPL Windows. 12:12 * owl listens to: subway to sally - traum vom tod 12:13 < Mike1> huebi: what some crappy thing named Lindows? 12:13 < owl> how stupid can a man be... wow! incredible, if you see my father. i wake up when he screamed.!!! 12:14 * owl is away: breakfast 12:14 < Mike1> enjoy owl 12:17 -!- blindcoder [crash@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("Lost terminal") 12:19 -!- blindcoder [crash@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:19 < blindcoder> rehi 12:19 < Mike1> re blindcoder 12:20 < huebi> huhu blindcoder 12:26 < huebi> Mike1: I found a good solution to rip audio cds. rip, lame and cdparanoia. Kool think 12:27 < huebi> s/k/g/ 12:29 < th> moin 12:31 < Mike1> hello tobias 12:31 < huebi> Mahlzeit th 12:32 < Mike1> huebi: what does "Mahlzeit" mean? 12:32 < Mike1> huebi: nice ripping stuff :) 12:33 < huebi> last track... 12:35 < huebi> ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/pub/music/faceup/ 12:35 < Mike1> huebi: how do you say "do you speak spanish?" in german? 12:36 < huebi> "Sprechen Sie spanisch?" 12:36 < Mike1> huebi: danke 12:55 < owl> re 12:56 < owl> hi blindcoder 12:56 < huebi> re owl 13:00 < blindcoder> hi owl 13:03 < Mike1> huebi: 13:03 < Mike1> mike@alicia:/mnt/devel/rock-private$ ./scripts/Download -passive-ftp -base 13:03 < Mike1> mike@alicia:/mnt/devel/rock-private$ 13:03 < huebi> Mike1: yes? 13:03 < Mike1> :) now i have all the sources with cksums fixed 13:04 < Mike1> all gnome2 packages included 13:04 < Mike1> time to start testing :) 13:05 < huebi> Great. Gnome2 gets on it's way into ROCK Linux. 13:06 < Mike1> huebi: of course :) 13:06 < Mike1> huebi: it's already time for me to do something important for rock :) 13:28 < blindcoder> #monster 13:28 < blindcoder> n 13:28 < blindcoder> You're Breath fo Fire bounces. 13:28 < blindcoder> The hobbit is killed 13:28 < Mike1> blindcoder: ??? 13:29 * blindcoder just ate some "Hot" Chicken Wings 13:29 < Mike1> ah i see :) 13:29 < Mike1> enjoy 13:45 < Mike1> huebi: i finally got all the music thanks 13:46 * Mike1 going home to start gnome2 testing and get A LOT of sleep 13:46 < huebi> Mike1: you're wlecome. enjoy 13:46 < Mike1> huebi: i will 13:46 < Mike1> have a nice day 13:46 < Mike1> bye 13:46 < huebi> sleep well Mike1 13:46 < huebi> bye 13:46 < Mike1> I WILL :) 13:46 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 15:23 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E3981A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15:29 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@dhcp024-210-222-139.woh.rr.com] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 15:31 < fake> boo 15:34 -!- Freak [freak@p50839AD6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:34 < esden> morning 15:34 < Freak> moin 15:35 < owl> moin 15:36 < fake> moin snobbish bremer 15:56 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD9048F62.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:01 < blindcoder> servus 16:02 < owl> re blindcoder 16:02 < blindcoder> re owl 16:02 < fake> tach stinky-bavarian-colleague blindcoder 16:02 < blindcoder> fake: it's a pleasure :) 16:03 < blindcoder> okay, after 4 hours of downloading I'm almost finished getting all sources... 16:03 < blindcoder> now I only need an uptime of several weeks to compile ROCK 16:03 < fake> o_O of what machine? 16:04 < blindcoder> SparcStation 20 16:04 < fake> blindcoder: 1.5 or 1.7 compile? 16:05 < blindcoder> 1.5 16:05 < blindcoder> I want to be able to INSTALL it afterwards 16:05 < fake> ah, good choice for sparc ;-) 16:05 < fake> blindcoder: i have 1.7 running here 16:05 < fake> but the sparc port is pretty alpha in 1.7 16:05 < blindcoder> or... *incoherentmumbling* 16:05 < blindcoder> I could compile it @ work 16:06 < fake> under solaris? *eg* 16:07 < blindcoder> no, redhat 16:07 < fake> rathead :-/ 16:07 < blindcoder> we have one or two redhats lying around 16:07 < blindcoder> I don't think it will compile under solaris :) 16:08 < fake> why not debian ? 16:08 < blindcoder> cause redhat is commercial and debian is not 16:08 < blindcoder> you can spend money on it and blame them if it does not work 16:08 < fake> so rathead is for whiners *g* 16:09 < blindcoder> It wasn't my choice, was it? 16:09 < fake> i didn't imply that 16:09 < blindcoder> besides: I'm the only one really knowing what to do on Linux 16:09 < blindcoder> okay, now NFS-export the source and compile it on the SS20 16:09 < blindcoder> damn tha t 2GB drive 16:10 < fake> makes you a valuable emplyoee 16:10 < blindcoder> sure :) 16:15 < blindcoder> damn it... what debian packages do i need to be able to mount an nfs-share 16:16 < fake> that should be in base o_O 16:16 < fake> portmap, mountd ? 16:16 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD95224DF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:17 < bluefire> Hi 16:17 < blindcoder> sundance:/usr/remote# mount 192.168.43.2:/usr/remote/rocksparc/ rocksparc/ 16:17 < blindcoder> mount: RPC: Program not registered 16:17 < blindcoder> hi bluefire 16:17 < th> blindcoder: consider running portmap,and nfsd 16:18 < blindcoder> so i need the nfs-server to mount shares from another server? 16:19 < th> i do NOT know what you need. 16:19 < blindcoder> sorry for asking 16:19 < th> hmm? 16:20 < th> there is no problem 16:54 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD9048F62.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:57 -!- owl [~mail-spam@212.144.169.59] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:08 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5bdc.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:08 < owl> re 17:10 < snyke> re 17:27 * fake istrying cinarella 17:53 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@213.45.38.40] has joined #rocklinux 18:04 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A76.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("°ShowDowN v12 PrO° since 1996: https://www.sci.fi/~showdown/") 18:07 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@213.45.38.40] has quit ("Non abbandonate i cani!") 18:48 -!- snyke [~jl1065@213.70.214.68] has joined #rocklinux 18:48 < snyke> huhi 18:49 < fake> re snyke 18:49 < huebi> re 18:49 < huebi> moin zusammen 18:50 < fake> moin huebi! 18:55 -!- snyke [~jl1065@213.70.214.68] has quit ("snyke has no reason") 18:59 -!- snyke [~jl1065@213.70.214.68] has joined #rocklinux 19:00 < blindcoder> rehi 19:07 < owl> re 19:08 < huebi> re owl 19:12 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD9048576.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:57 -!- snyke is now known as snyk 19:58 -!- snyk is now known as snyke 20:01 < huebi> +3928144210 util-linux/util-linux-2.11u.tar.bz2 ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/util-linux/ 20:01 < huebi> update. 20:02 < huebi> one bug less now 21:34 -!- snyke [~jl1065@213.70.214.68] has quit ("HEUL boeser dennis *HEUL*") 21:48 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A76.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:16 < huebi> owl: https://www.rocklinux.org/people/clifford/Meeting200208/ 22:16 < huebi> https://www.rocklinux.org/people/clifford/Meeting200208/ 22:16 < owl> thx. 22:17 < owl> weisst du wie weit das von l. nach wien ist? 22:17 < huebi> noe. 22:17 < th> und wie weit es erst von meiner residenz bis dahin ist... 22:18 < th> zu weit fuer nen WE-kurztrip :-/ 22:18 < owl> schlecht. :-/ in l. ist scheint es irgendwie nur ein hotel (oder was immer das darstellen soll) zu geben... 22:18 < huebi> th: Nimm deinen Firmen Lear Jet. 22:19 < th> das is natuerlich ne idee 22:20 < huebi> qt knirscht hier auf der Platte so vor sich hin... braucht noch 20min 22:38 -!- Freak [freak@p50839AD6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:39 -!- Freak [freak@p50839AD6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:42 < [anders]> mmpfh.. glibc is not in a happy mood.. it does not want to build at all.. 22:43 < [anders]> re all.. only just made it back in after driving to Essex and back.. 22:43 < owl> hi 22:44 < [anders]> hi there owl.. how's it going? 22:44 < owl> super. and at you? ;) 22:44 < [anders]> not bad.. but tired.. having something small to eat, doing some hacking on ROCK and then off to bed.. 22:46 < owl> i see 22:47 < huebi> moin [anders] 22:47 < [anders]> moin huebi , wie gehts? 22:47 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:47 < holyolli> hi 22:47 < [anders]> moin holyolli 22:48 < huebi> I just started a new build of 1.5.18 22:48 < holyolli> hi anders 22:48 < owl> hi holyolli 22:48 < holyolli> hi owl 22:48 < huebi> moin holyolli 22:48 < holyolli> tach huebi :) 22:48 < [anders]> huebi: it's been rolled up to 1.5.18 has it? :) 22:48 < huebi> [anders]: A little bit tired but fine 22:48 < holyolli> <-- ist now back from vacations and can now go on compiling ;-) 22:49 < huebi> [anders]: Yes. If it now works - I'll see it in a few hours - I officialy make the new version 1.5.18 22:51 * [anders] just pulled CVS and will check how big a patch it becomes.. 22:54 < [anders]> fsck!! 0.5MB patch.. eek.. how much have you been tweaking huebi??? 22:56 < huebi> [anders]: Almost all .conf files had to be changed to get working again after the change from '$MAKE' to 'make "$makeopt"' 23:00 < [anders]> heh.. I also discovered that the CVS directories has had a small alteration and that pulled in rather a lot of stuff.. 23:01 < huebi> this looks to be more than it is. Now the kernel build works also on small computers again with make -j32 23:02 < huebi> orbit is fixed ogain (2 mins ago) 23:03 < [anders]> hmmm.. glibc compiled this time.. *confused* 23:03 < [anders]> Ok, will stop my stage 1+2 compile, add your patches and then build it again.. 23:03 < huebi> ACK 23:05 < huebi> glibc could be a problem with $MAKE 23:18 < [anders]> indeed.. I think that was the problem with it.. 23:21 < [anders]> stage 1+2 kicked off again.. once built, I'll tar up dist and fire off a stand-alone stage 3 build.. 23:21 < [anders]> If everything works okay that is.. :) 23:29 < huebi> I started the build 4h ago. It should need another 4h. 23:33 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-364.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux 23:43 < [anders]> huebi: yeah, you have a faster box than I do though.. :) 23:44 < holyolli> huebi: 8h for a complete build?!? 23:44 < huebi> holyolli: yes. 23:44 < huebi> without Stage 5 23:44 < holyolli> urgs! 23:45 < holyolli> what machine are you using? 23:45 * [anders] can build Stage 1-5 in about 18-20 hours.. 23:45 * holyolli too 23:45 < huebi> Dual XP1800+ 23:45 < [anders]> Single XP1900+ 23:45 < [anders]> :) 23:45 < [anders]> .5GB RAM.. 23:45 * holyolli is excited about the build times of this new machine =) 23:45 < huebi> 1GB RAM 23:46 < [anders]> There are some rather nice boxes available from IBM.. 16way Xeon boxes.. ;-) 23:46 < [anders]> Unfortunately they are slightly outside my range at the moment.. *g* 23:46 < holyolli> hehe 23:46 < th> "slightly" 23:46 < huebi> holyolli: There is in the moment nothing faster on the market for a price of about 1500EUR 23:46 * holyolli had some luck on ebay...so nothing from ibm but from api networks 23:47 < huebi> holyolli: URL? 23:48 < [anders]> The build box we use at work for the project I work on there is a 4-way P-III Xeon 1.6GHz with 2GB RAM and about .5TB FCAL storage.. running hdparm -tT on those disks return 50MB/s every single time.. 23:48 < holyolli> huebi: the site is down at the moment...but it's an alpha 23:48 < holyolli> alpha cs20 23:48 < huebi> holyolli: kool 23:49 < holyolli> it's quite nice, because of the small measurements (1U) 23:49 < huebi> [anders]: Do you have a price for the box? 23:50 * huebi fixing bonobo 23:50 * holyolli trying to compile a kernel with serial console... 23:50 -!- snyke is now known as snyk3 23:50 < holyolli> btw. this feature should be added to the kernelconfig-defaults 23:50 < huebi> holyolli: ack 23:50 < th> ack 23:51 < huebi> In Vienna I will adopt the new kernel conf stuff from 1.7 to 1.5. 23:51 < th> huebi: cool 23:51 < holyolli> huebi: when was vienna again? 23:52 < huebi> https://www.rocklinux.org/people/clifford/Meeting200208/ 23:52 < th> 7.8. to 11.8. 23:52 < huebi> The kernel conf solution we had/have now is far from stable. 23:52 < holyolli> huebi: thx 23:54 < holyolli> hm. how long is vienna from frankfurt? 23:55 < holyolli> s/long/far/g; 23:55 < huebi> don't know. I think about 7h 23:55 < [anders]> huebi: which one? 23:55 < huebi> bonobo is fixed cvs updated 23:56 -!- snyk3 is now known as snyke 23:56 < huebi> 4-way P-III Xeon 1.6GHz with 2GB RAM and about .5TB FCAL storage <- that one 23:57 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-364.tin.it] has quit ("Non abbandonate i cani!") 23:57 -!- plfiorini [~pablo@r-bo043-2-364.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux 23:57 < [anders]> huebi: if you are talking about the quad P-III Xeon, they are rather expensive with all 4 cpus in them.. I think from memory they were talking over 5000 GBP for the box, and then you have to add the storage afterwards.. I can try and look on the IBM webpages for it.. 23:59 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A76.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #rocklinux () 23:59 < [anders]> fsck! I knew it was expensive, but not that expensive.. Ok, the box we have, is the X360... 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