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00:18 < huebi> re MoeP!
00:18 < owl> wb huebi
00:18 < huebi> hi owl
00:19 < owl> wann wolltest du abfahren??? um 4 uhr morgens??
00:19 < huebi> ne, um 6. fake sagte ich wuerde so 4h bis IN brauchen.
00:20 < owl> i see
00:20 < huebi> Ich will vor 18h30 in Wien sein.
00:20 < owl> oki
00:20 < owl> also morgen, kfc
00:20 < huebi> 7h Fahrtzeit nach Wien sollte reichen.
00:20 < owl> hoffendlich... fahren wir uber passau, oder...???
00:21 < huebi> jo, bis morgen KFC. Weiss ich nicht, kannst du mal eine Route nach Leopoldsdorf raussuchen?
00:21 < owl> aehm ich bin ehrlich gesagt am packen...
00:21 < huebi> ich auch
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00:22 < huebi> moin thalerim
00:22 < thalerim> guten morgen
00:22 < owl> *gg* auch chaos um dich herum?
00:22 < tomik> hi all
00:22 < owl> hi thalerim
00:22 * huebi hat gerade 330 CDs und 160GB Filme auf Festplatte fuer Wien ausgeliehen.
00:22 < owl> *gggg*
00:22 < owl> doch so wenig???
00:23 < huebi> jo, mehr war auf die Schnelle nicht moeglich.
00:23 < owl> *gggg*
00:23 < owl> welche CDs? ;)
00:23 * huebi hat gerade 6h Migraene hinter sich gebracht.
00:23 < owl> haeh? warum?
00:24 < thalerim> akuter kaff_eee_ntzug
00:24 < huebi> owl: Alles Moegliche an Filmen und Serien in deutsch und englisch
00:24 < owl> *ggg*
00:24 < owl> kewl :)
00:24 < owl> blade2
00:24 < owl> ?
00:24 < huebi> thalerim: ACK.
00:25 < huebi> owl: Must du dann selber rausfinden *g* Keine Zeit im Moment dafuer.
00:25 * thalerim ging in Matilda's Workshop "Seeing into the future for Dummies" *gg*
00:25 < owl> oki ;)
00:25 < huebi> Ein riesiger Espresso hat dann schon ganz gut geholfen gegen die Migraene.
00:25 < owl> ned wirklihc, oder?
00:25 < huebi> doch.
00:26 < chrisime> huebi: hab jetzt cd drin
00:26 < chrisime> wie geht das jetzt
00:26 < chrisime> helpmsg und down
00:26 < chrisime> mehr hab ich net
00:26 < chrisime> select *
00:26 < huebi> Setzt den Blutdruck etwas hoch...
00:26 < chrisime> gabs doch sowas
00:26 < chrisime> ganz schoen mutig devfs ohne compat zu machen
00:26 < owl> hmm.... guarana? schon mal versucht?
00:26 < huebi> chrisime: hast du die Platte mit fdisk schon formatiert?
00:27 < huebi> chrisime: devfs braucht gar nicht so viele Patche.
00:28 < huebi> chrisime: erm.. partitioniert? und mit mke2fs mit einem fs versehen? und mkswap, swapon?
00:28 * owl muss mal ihre kiste plaetten...
00:28 < owl> cu tomorrow. gn8
00:28 < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/howtos/Rocklinux_installation_de.html
00:28 < thalerim> gn8 owl
00:28 < owl> und bitte anrufen... danke
00:28 < huebi> nacht owl.
00:28 < owl> ciao. gn8
00:28 < huebi> fake: PING
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00:29 < huebi> owjo, ich rufe an
00:29 < chrisime> huebi: sollte eine part machen fuer rock
00:29 < chrisime> hab knoppix drauf, weil ich ein debian brauch
00:29 < chrisime> 70 GB sind noch frei
00:30 < huebi> jo, dann led dort eine Part. >= 3GB fuer rock an
00:30 < huebi> swap kannst du auch von debian nehmen.
00:30 < thalerim> ./tmp auch
00:30 < chrisime> irhr verrueckten habt kein cfdisk drauf
00:30 < chrisime> ich hasse fdisk
00:31 < thalerim> weil das scheisse baut
00:31 < chrisime> blah
00:31 < chrisime> das geht
00:31 < thalerim> ahja
00:31 < chrisime> aber gentoo hats ja au net *sigh*
00:31 < huebi> chrisime: cfdisk is for wimps
00:31 < chrisime> jo
00:31 < thalerim> das verhaut einem die partitionstabelle
00:31 < thalerim> ohne ende, das produziert nur schei*e
00:32 < huebi> "We are very sorry, but cfdisk is not a supported configuration."
00:32 < huebi> chrisime: Die Bootdisk ist einfach zu klein, deshalb kein cfdisk.
00:33 < chrisime> kein xfs!!
00:33 < chrisime> hilfe
00:33 < chrisime> nur ext2???
00:33 < thalerim> xfs ... lol
00:33 < chrisime> argh!
00:33 < thalerim> das stirbt eh bald aus
00:33 < thalerim> genau wie reiserfs
00:34 < chrisime> lol
00:34 < chrisime> wieso
00:34 < chrisime> rennt 1a hier
00:34 < huebi> hfs <- das fs der Zukunft.
00:34 < thalerim> weil ext3 (hoffentlich noch im) 2.6 hashing tables bekommt
00:34 < chrisime> will ich gar net erst haben
00:35 < chrisime> ext3 is laaaahm
00:35 < chrisime> weisss net ob die hashs da so viel helfen
00:35 < chrisime> hfs ist mac?!
00:35 < thalerim> damit öhm, wird es *sau* schnell ... außerdem sist ext3 das einzige dateisystem dass 100% datensicherheit gewährt
00:35 < huebi> chrisime: hashing tables <- das schnell sein
00:35 < thalerim> (von den jorunaling dateisystemen)
00:35 < chrisime> huebi: weiss ich von der uni
00:35 < chrisime> aber ob das wirklich hilft
00:35 < chrisime> thalerim: wie das
00:36 < thalerim> chrisime: hurgs, ... mom ...
00:37 < thalerim> mal überleg, wo ich das gelesen habe
00:37 < chrisime> fs ist erstellt
00:37 < chrisime> swapon auch
00:37 < chrisime> xfs hat mir nen total zerstoertest DIR rekonstruiert
00:38 < chrisime> das ich geschrottet hab
00:38 < chrisime> reiserfs machte nur probs -> alles xfs
00:38 < chrisime> jfs soll auch besser geworden sein
00:38 < thalerim> huebi: xfs, reiserfs und jfs benutzen auch hashing, allerdings den BTree ... ext3 bekommt'n eigenen algho, Htree. Der benötigt nur 500zeilen code, während hingegen eine implemation des Btrees ~5000 bräuchte (außerdem benutzt dieser Htree logische adresse, der BTree physikalische *iirc)
00:38 < thalerim> HTree basiert aber auf BTree
00:39 < thalerim> ist aber 100% abwärtskompatibel zum normalen ext2
00:41 < thalerim> chrisime: https://www.dignatz.de/d/spotlight/artikel/linux-xp_linux-mag_20011005_001.html
00:42 < thalerim> öh
00:42 < chrisime> bah
00:42 < thalerim> musst noch auf den link daklicken
00:42 < chrisime> is no kein gnome drin
00:42 < huebi> mount dein ROCK / nach trg
00:42 < chrisime> wills net  ;-)
00:42 < chrisime> hab schon
00:42 < huebi> mount dein ROCK / nach /trg
00:42 < chrisime> huebi: die rockshell ist selbsterklaeren
00:42 < chrisime> d
00:42 < huebi> Install
00:42 < huebi> sel *
00:42 < huebi> install
00:43 < chrisime> jaja
00:43 < chrisime> was ist physik. und log. der diff
00:43 < chrisime> btrees sind komplex
00:43 < chrisime> das weiss ich
00:43 < huebi> Gnome 1.4 ist drin. 2 kommt erst wenn es stabil im ROCK drinn ist.
00:43 < chrisime> hab mal ansatzweise in java impl.
00:44 < thalerim> chrisime: das hat was mit der implemation in einb estehendes ext2 system zu tun
00:44 < chrisime> wegen dem phy. und log. ?
00:44 < thalerim> arghs, typos über typos
00:44 < chrisime> wgen ext2?
00:44 < thalerim> chrisime: nein, dass nicht btree benutzt wird
00:44 < thalerim> hat dami aber auch zu tun
00:45 < chrisime> netter installer
00:45 < chrisime> wer hat den geschrieben
00:46 < huebi> clifford
00:50 < chrisime> das der totale freak
00:50 < chrisime> hab gestern seine seiten studiert
00:50 < thalerim> hey ... heute ist ja freitag
00:50 < chrisime> nein
00:50 < chrisime> DO
00:51 < chrisime> asso
00:51 < chrisime> ja jetzt ist FR
00:51 < thalerim> schon seit fast einer stunde ;)
00:53 < thalerim> okay, mail ist raus ... schlaft gut
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00:53 < chrisime> oho
00:54 < chrisime> fatal error
00:55 < chrisime> gnome-control-center
00:55 < chrisime> da is was putt
00:55 < chrisime> aufm image
00:55 < huebi> brenn es noch mal. Oft hilft das
00:55 < huebi> md5sum?
00:57 < chrisime> EOF
00:57 < chrisime> is wurscht
00:58 < huebi> hmmm
01:03 < chrisime> so
01:03 < chrisime> config scripts
01:03 < chrisime> geht ja alles recht reibungslos
01:03 < chrisime> hab usb maus
01:04 < chrisime> was jetzt=
01:04 < huebi> Weiss ich auch nicht. Habe ich noch nicht probiert. *AufListeSchreb*
01:07 < chrisime> jaaa!
01:07 < chrisime> das ist normal /dev/misc/mice
01:07 < chrisime> noe
01:07 < chrisime>  /dev/mice
01:07 < chrisime> oder so
01:09 < Freak> ey - <chrisime> das der totale freak
01:09 < Freak> :)
01:10 < chrisime> hehe
01:10 < chrisime> huebi: mit usb is wssig
01:10 < chrisime> ist net im /dev
01:11 < chrisime> damit hauts ihr den benutzern ganz schoen eine auf die ruebe
01:11 < chrisime> config's done
01:11 < chrisime> ich reboote mal
01:11 < chrisime> oder?
01:12 < huebi> jo, die Maus wird aber nicht gehen. Bau dir mal einen neuen kernel zuerst.
01:12 < huebi> rm -rf /usr/src/linux*
01:12 < huebi> cd /usr/src
01:13 < huebi> tar -xvIf kernel/linux-2.4.19.tar.bz2
01:13 < huebi> und dann
01:13 < huebi> for i in kernel/*p[atch; do patch -p0 <$i; done
01:14 < chrisime> huh?
01:14 < chrisime> maus is mir jetzt mal wurscht
01:14 < chrisime> ich boote
01:16 < huebi> nach dem Auspacken des kernels natuerlich noc: ln -s linux-2.4.19 linux
01:17 < chrisime> jaja
01:17 < chrisime> lass mal bvooten
01:18 < chrisime> kernel panic
01:18 < chrisime> root= boot option probier ich mal
01:19 < chrisime> das meint der
01:19 < chrisime> wenn ich das angeben koennte
01:19 < chrisime> ohne prompt in lilo.conf is essig
01:28 < huebi> chrisime: hae?
01:38 < chrisime> naja
01:39 < chrisime> die installation hat mir nun alles putt gemacht
01:39 < chrisime> muss mal die knoppix rettungs cd nei tun
01:39 < chrisime> mach ich aber morgen
01:40 < huebi> was hast du gemacht?
01:40 < huebi> warum ist _alles_ kaputt?
01:42 < huebi> *weia*
01:43 < chrisime> nix gmacht
01:44 < chrisime> dermeint dass kein root auf part3 is
01:44 < chrisime> was schwachsinn ist
01:44 < chrisime> werds morgen mal checken
01:44 < chrisime> hab grad ka bock
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03:24 < Mike1> re
03:25 < Ge0rG> cu
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08:04 < zer0_o^> hi
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09:56 < huebi> moin
09:57 < huebi> fake: Hallo? Bist du wach?
09:57 < huebi> fake: kannst du mich anrufen? Ich habe deine Telefonnummer nicht mehr
09:57 < huebi> fake: 0178-2020253
09:57 < huebi> so, ich fahre jetz los.
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10:39 < owl> moin
10:47 * owl leaves you now
10:48 < owl> cu. at least on tuesday
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10:48 < tsa> moin.
10:53 < chrisime> jo
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11:04 < holyolli> moin
11:06 < tsa> huhu olli.
11:06 < holyolli> hallo tsa.
11:06 < tsa> ich bin schizophren
11:06 < holyolli> ich auch
11:06 < tsa> ich auch
11:06 < holyolli> <-- opfer
11:06 < holyolli> ;-)
11:06 < tsa> jo.
11:06 < tsa> vim god present?
11:07 < tsa> i need a ~/.vimrc command to make vim start editing on the first line - currently, it starts on the last one.. :-(
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12:37 * [anders] needs to talk to Mike, and that soon...
12:37 < [anders]> hullo everybody.. /me <- tired today..
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13:08 * [anders] is building stage 3 of the most recent drop of CVS.. if stage 3 is working well, I will set up to build the Gnome2 release..
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14:14 < o8m9c3p2q> hmm
14:14 < o8m9c3p2q> <- snyke
14:15 < rxr_> re
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14:15 < snyke> re
14:16 < [anders]> moin snyke
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14:41 < tsa> *gaehn*
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14:55 < rxr_> wow - much don in 1.7 during my holiday ;-)!
14:56 < rxr_> btw. my article might not show up in the next issue of the Linux Magazin - the editor in chief said it is already full ... :-(
15:00 < rxr_> noone here ?
15:00 * [anders] will start on the compile of the Gnome2 version of 1.5.18 in a minute or two..
15:01 < [anders]> moin rxr_
15:01 < rxr_> ah hi [anders]
15:01 < rxr_> there is gnome2 in ROCK 1.5.x ?
15:01 < [anders]> rxr_: had a good holiday?
15:01 < [anders]> rxr_: Miguel and I are trying to get it in and working.. :)
15:01 < rxr_> yes - it was great! - But I still do some holidaying at my parents ...
15:02 < [anders]> rxr_: the idea is to have it in 1.6.0 if it is ready, else to leave it for 1.6.1
15:02 < rxr_> [anders]: ah - ic. It is 95% working in 1.7
15:02 < rxr_> you should copy the packages  ...
15:02 < [anders]> rxr_: Enjoy your time off.. I can not get holiday requests authorised at the moment.
15:03 < [anders]> rxr_: Ah.. perhaps we should.. :) Do you have Evolution working in 1.7 ?
15:03 < rxr_> my last real holiday was in 1998 ... ;-)
15:03 < tsa> hi rxr
15:03 < [anders]> moin tsa
15:03 < rxr_> hi tsa!
15:03 < tsa> hi [anders]
15:03 < tsa> rxr_: still lots of stuff broken in 1.7
15:03 < rxr_> [anders]: i think no - although we have gtk+1 glib1 and gal for compatibility in 1.7
15:03 < tsa> rxr_: i have a build running at home. stage 1 and 2 are ok, but i have lots of errors in stage 3
15:04 < rxr_> tsa: oh :-( I'll start to work on ROCK next week. (I'll be back in Berlin on Monday evening)
15:04 < tsa> mostly stuff which breaks because of syntax errors with the usage of imake
15:04 < tsa> rxr_: ah, ok.
15:04 < [anders]> rxr_: that's one of my aims, to get Gnome2 and Evolution both working..
15:04 < rxr_> tsa: what packages? Only Gnome2?
15:05 < [anders]> <- afk, setting up for compile of Gnome2-ified 1.5.18...
15:05 < rxr_> When I left Berlin most packages compilied (only Gnome2 failed slightly)
15:05 < tsa> i'll let it finish stage 3 and then mail you the .err files..
15:05 < rxr_> [anders]: Evolution is Gtk+1 ... -so you need some compatibility libs (or use a snapshot Evolution or so ...)
15:06 < rxr_> tsa: you are not in viena for  the rock devel session ?
15:07 < [anders]> rxr_: we'll walk the path of compatibility packages I think.. There are plenty of other packages still using gtk+ 1.2 so we'll need it not only for Evolution..
15:07 < tsa> rxr_: no, i won't be there.. i have lots of stuff waiting to be done here..
15:07 < rxr_> ah - /me will also stay in hannover ...
15:08 * [anders] did not have the time nor the momey to go to Vienna...
15:08 < rxr_> [anders]: sure
15:08 < [anders]> rxr_: will you have time to look at the kernel config side of things in 1.5.18? :-)
15:08 < rxr_> tsa: This week I also visited Hameln with my girlfriend.
15:08 < SMP> hello from Vienna
15:09 < [anders]> moin SMP
15:09 < rxr_> [anders]: I will have time next week (if they do not fix it in Vienna).
15:09 < rxr_> hi SMP
15:09 < [anders]> rxr_: okidoki.. that is good news.. :)
15:09 < tsa> rxr_: hehe..
15:10 < rxr_> [anders]: I wanted to fix it before I left Berlin - but missed the time ...
15:10 < rxr_> SMP: news from Vienna ?
15:10 < rxr_> And greetings to Cliff !
15:11 < [anders]> rxr_: no problems.. I know all about not having time to do thngs.. I was supposed to merge in all the fixes from CVS into the Gnome2 tree Miguel and I am working on and only got the time to do it this morning.... :-/
15:11 < rolla> re all
15:12 < SMP> rxr_: not yet. I was just the first one to arrive
15:12 < tsa> ah.
15:12 < tsa> how's vienna?
15:12 < SMP> well
15:12 < SMP> I've seen nothing than the airport ;)
15:12 < tsa> uh...you went there by plane?
15:13 < SMP> sure
15:13 < SMP> cheaper than train anyway
15:14 < tsa> ah....and a lot faster.. ;-)
15:14 < SMP> only 1,5 hours
15:14 < SMP> compared to 10 to 12 with car or train
15:14 < th> SMP: hannover?
15:15 < SMP> jep
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15:21 < rolla> rxr_ why is the boot iso for drock only 9M ?
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15:27 < Mike1> moin
15:29 < chrisime_> huebi: rocklinux laeuft
15:29 < chrisime_> huebi: habs gerettet, boot=/dev/hda3 mochte er lieer
15:29 < chrisime_> lieber
15:34 < rxr_> rolla: this is the network install ISO!
15:35 < rxr_> you do not need it normally - for normal installs you need the CD-1 (and for more packages) the CD-2 ... The CD-1 is bootable.
15:37 < rolla> ah good thanks
15:38 < rxr_> me offline again. cu
15:38 < chrisime_> huebi: network card wasn't installed properly + dhcp doesn't work
15:39 < [anders]> moin Mike1
15:40 < [anders]> Mike1: I have tried to rsync today but not been able to.. I get some odd error message
15:40 < Mike1> moin [anders]
15:40 < Mike1> mmm mom let me check
15:41 < [anders]> okidoki.. :)
15:42 < Mike1> [anders]: try again
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16:12 < th> hi Mike1
16:29 < tsa> cu all..
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17:22 < d3mian> hi over there
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17:59 < [anders]> riiiight.. got stage 3 of the plain 1.5.18-private running and also stage 1+2 running on the 1.5.18-gnome2 build.. my box will be nicely saturated for CPU for a while then.. Time to go home /me thinks..
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19:34 < bluefire> Hi
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19:40 < holyolli> re
19:41 < snyke> hi holyolli
19:41 < holyolli> hi snyke
19:50 < blindcoder> hoi
19:51 < holyolli> hi blindcoder
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19:56 < netcrow> hi
19:56 < blindcoder> hi nec
19:56 < blindcoder> netcrow:
19:57 < blindcoder> hmm is it possible to hook a SUN-Keyboard onto a PC?
19:58 < snyke> blindcoder!
19:58 < blindcoder> snyke?
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21:41 < zer0_o> af
21:41 < Mike1> ?
21:47 < zer0_o> erist ein
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22:46 < oregehr_> re
22:46 < oregehr_> mh?
22:46 < oregehr_>  /whois holyolli
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23:43 < kvak|uninvited> Moin
23:43 < holyolli> hi kvak
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23:58 < zer0_o> =(
23:59 < zer0_o> son arsch war an meinem compi
23:59 < zer0_o> =|
23:59 < zer0_o> re, btw =|
23:59 < holyolli> re zer0_o
23:59 < zer0_o> =)
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