WebHosting Paid by #1Payday.Loans
--- Log opened Fri Aug 16 00:00:03 2002
--- Day changed Fri Aug 16 2002
00:00 < esden> what does it do ?
00:01 < thalerim> https://freebits.de/trash/matrix/
00:04 -!- bayrunner [bayrunner@128.220.123.215] has joined #rocklinux
00:05 < thalerim> moin bayrunner
00:05 < esden> what is the patch doing ?
00:05 -!- bayrunner [bayrunner@128.220.123.215] has left #rocklinux ()
00:06 < thalerim> esden: have a look at the pictures there
00:06 < esden> ahh ... ok ... makes all green ;-)
00:07 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD95254C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
00:07 < thalerim> yup ... huebi uses it too
00:07 < tsa> hi again..
00:08 < huebi> thalerim: jo, I do
00:08 < thalerim> so everyone get his l33t matrix
00:08 < _NULL> hi tsa
00:09 < tsa> huhu owl
00:09 < esden> I would prefere ... that when you are in the console after 10 minutes start's a matrix screensaver on the framebuffer
00:09 < esden> thar would be really cool
00:10 < esden> hi tsa
00:10 < tsa> hi esden
00:10 < tsa> owl ->> https://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/hacking/devmeeting-02/03.jpg <<- owl
00:10 < tsa> *duck*
00:10 -!- nAdIeD [gigax@cable200-75-64-107.epm.net.co] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
00:10 < esden> suesse owl ;-)
00:10 < _NULL> tsa. mir ist das so sch...egal
00:10 < _NULL> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
00:10 < tsa> keine ahnung, bisher nicht probiert.
00:10 * _NULL ist nicht suess!
00:10 * -> esden knuddelt owl ... ;-)
00:11 < tsa> aber esden offenbar.. ;-)
00:11 * _NULL rennt weg
00:11 < tsa> hehe
00:11 < esden> hehe
00:11 < esden> ach bleibe hier ich tue dir nichts schlimmes ;-)
00:11 < tsa> esden: wo waren doch gleich die fotos von owl in reizwaesche? *G*
00:11 < _NULL> hm. du bist ein mann. das ist schon schlimm genug.
00:12 < _NULL> tsa: wo waren doch gleich die fotos von deinem sarg?
00:12 < tsa> hahaha
00:12 < _NULL> tsa: nee, du bekommst 'ne kiste in der frueher kartoffeln lagen. weil ich dich so abmetzle, dass du da rein passt!
00:13 < tsa> _NULL: ich bin aber gar keine kartoffel..
00:13 < thalerim> hui ... bald erreich ihr Blutdruck Dimensionen ...
00:14 < _NULL> tsa: nein. ein mann. und das ist schlimmer als eine kartoffel!
00:14 < tsa> thalerim: hm...wer macht sauber, wenn sie platzt?
00:14 < tsa> _NULL: hoer mal auf, kartoffeln zu beleidigen..
00:14 < _NULL> thalerim: [bla]
00:15 < esden> tsa: hmm ... muss ich mal gucken
00:15 < _NULL> tsa: stimmt. vergleiche mit maennern - arme kartoffeln.
00:15 < thalerim> lol ... was anderes kannste nicht sagen ... nicht sehr redegewandt ... haha ... tja... so ist das
00:15 < esden> ne frage ... wie stelle ich in der konsole den font nochmal um ?
00:15 < thalerim> esden: setfont oder consolechars -f
00:15 < _NULL> thalerim: ich sage, was mir passt, dann, wann mir's passt, warum's mir passt etc!
00:15 < esden> von wo lese ich die font's ?
00:16 < thalerim> _NULL: nein, du laberst nur irgendwelche kagge, die gar nicht zum kontext zusammenhängt und nimmst gleich alles persönlich (anscheinend)
00:17 < thalerim> esden: /usr/share/kbd/consolefont[s]
00:17 < _NULL> thalerim: umlaute aus!!!
00:17 < thalerim> nö
00:17 -!- sam| [~sam@pD9E4C6F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
00:17 < esden> thalerim: thanks
00:17 < _NULL> thalerim: dann setzte mich halt auf ignore.
00:18 < sam|> ah wie schön deucht :)
00:18 < sam|> deutsch
00:18 < sam|> weiss jemand welchen paketmanager rock linux benutzt
00:18 < sam|> rpm?
00:18 < sam|> etwa
00:18 < th> sam|: nein
00:18 < tsa> nein.
00:18 < sam|> oder tgz
00:18 < tsa> .tgz
00:18 < th> naja
00:18 < tsa> tbz2
00:18 < th> tbz2
00:18 < sam|> wie slack also
00:18 < esden> ahh cool
00:18 < sam|> dh die sourcen werden direct mit dem gcc compiliert?
00:19 < esden> boah is that small
00:19 < thalerim> _NULL: ich hab keinen grund ... ich glaub eher ich geh dir auf die nerven, als du mir
00:19 < tsa> esden: close your trousers again...please!
00:19 < _NULL> thalerim: wie recht du hast. nur mecke mich nicht an, das vertrage ich absolut nicht!
00:19 < esden> fbset 1280x1024-75
00:19 < esden> setfont /usr/share/consolefonts/gr8x8.psf.gz
00:20 < sam|> funktioniert der update generell über tbz2 bzw zu fuß oder gibbts etwaige shell scripte?
00:21 < thalerim> _NULL: Wahrheit schmerzt, ich weiß. - mal abgesehen davon, mach ich zu 75% nur Spaß.
00:22 < esden> tsa: what for ... it is much better without trousers ...
00:23 < _NULL> ./ignore thalerim
00:23 < thalerim> *g*
00:23 < thalerim> die sollte wirklich mal zum psychater
00:24 < thalerim> ansonsten bringt sie sich in nicht allzu langer zeit selbst um
00:24 < _NULL> thalerim: nein. ein psychoonkel nuetzt mir herzlich gar nix.
00:24 < _NULL> thalerim: bisher habe ich 's so geschafft.
00:24 < tsa> _NULL: und wenn er gut im Bett ist? *tiefduck*
00:25 < thalerim> tjo ... war ja nur so ein Rat
00:25 < _NULL> ./ignore tsa
00:25 < thalerim> im richtigen leben gibst's leider keine /ignore
00:25 < _NULL> thalerim: und was macht's schon, wenn's mich nicht mehr geben wuerde? nichts!
00:25 < tsa> _NULL: und wer macht dann den kaffee?
00:26 < thalerim> *g*
00:26 < _NULL> tsa: "selbst ist der mann"
00:26 < thalerim> _NULL: wenn du kein spaß hast am leben, dann bring es bitte hinter dich, abe *bitte* sülz mich nicht mit sowas voll
00:26 < tsa> _NULL: wenn das wirklich so waere, braeuchten wir generell keine frauen..
00:27 * tsa betreibt mal aktive Aufklaerungsarbeit
00:27 < _NULL> thalerim: schlate endlich deine doofen umlaute aus, bitte!
00:27 < esden> so mit bienchen und bluemchen ?
00:28 * _NULL haut dem esden mal eine runter!
00:28 < tsa> esden: nein, mit esdenchen und owlchen..
00:28 < thalerim> nö
00:28 < tsa> :-P
00:28 < esden> ich habe noch nie ... aber wirklich nie enie biene zu einer blume fliegen sehen und sagen hoeren ... "ich poppe dich bis du bluehst!"
00:28 < esden> ja ich habe auch mich nie fliegen sehen ...
00:28 < tsa> esden: aber poppen kannst du, oder? ;-)
00:29 < esden> hmm ...
00:29 < esden> gute frage ...
00:29 * tsa reicht esden die gummipuppe zum ueben,.
00:29 < _NULL> thalerim: ich kann deine bescheidenen umlaute nicht entziffern -> ich verstehe nicht was du sagen willst, weil ich es nicht lesen kann, weil es nicht vollstaendig dargestellt wird!
00:29 < esden> tun tue ich es ab und zu ... aber ob ich es kann sollten andere entscheiden ;-){
00:30 < thalerim> _NULL: und ich dachte du legt keinen wert darauf..
00:30 < tsa> esden: ..und der hund wehrt sich nicht?
00:30 < tsa> *tiefduck*
00:30 < thalerim> lol ...
00:30 < esden> ich habe keinen hund ...
00:30 < _NULL> thalerim: jetzt ignoriere ich dich echt. do svidania
00:30 < thalerim> tsa: bist das fehlende bindegliet zwischen mensch und schwein ;-P
00:31 * -> esden sucht mommentan ein neues opfer ... und nein ... ich will nicht owl
00:31 < thalerim> glie_d_
00:31 < _NULL> und ich will nicht esden
00:31 < tsa> esden: soso..."opfer" nennst du das also *G*
00:31 < esden> ja ... willst dich zur verfuegung stellen tsa ?
00:31 < esden> dann weisst was ich meine
00:31 < tsa> thalerim: mag sein...auf welcher der seiten stehst du? ;)
00:31 < tsa> esden: wuff!
00:31 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has joined #rocklinux
00:32 < holyolli> re
00:32 < tsa> OLLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!
00:32 < esden> ruuuuaaarrrr
00:32 < holyolli> TSSAAAAAAAAA!
00:32 < tsa> JAJAJAJAJA!
00:32 < _NULL> re holyolli
00:32 < esden> olli schnucki HI !
00:32 < tsa> holyolli: ficken?
00:32 < holyolli> hi null
00:32 < holyolli> esdenschnuffelchen :)
00:32 * thalerim fragt sich, warum er vorher auf der ignore von owl gelandet ist als tsa *g*
00:32 < holyolli> tach auch
00:32 < holyolli> tsa: gerne
00:32 < tsa> holyolli: fein. wen?
00:32 < esden> soo ... ich gehe betti
00:32 < holyolli> hm. esden?
00:33 < holyolli> (tsa)
00:33 < esden> nachtele jungs ... und was auch immer ;-)
00:33 < tsa> holyolli: aehm..nein.
00:33 < thalerim> yo ich geh auch
00:33 < tsa> holyolli: ich habe andere absichten.
00:33 < holyolli> n8 esden
00:33 < thalerim> holyolli: tsa steht mehr auf kühe
00:33 < holyolli> n8 thalerim
00:33 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD9E49005.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("scnr")
00:35 < tsa> _______
00:35 < tsa> < Mooo! >
00:35 < tsa> -------
00:35 < tsa> \ ^__^
00:35 < tsa> \ (oo)\_______
00:35 < tsa> (__)\ )\/\
00:35 < tsa> ||----w |
00:35 < tsa> || ||
00:35 < th> *bow*
00:35 < holyolli> tsa: was sollte das heissen? fick mich? ;-)
00:35 < tsa> holyolli: neee....dich nicht.
00:36 < holyolli> das meinte ich ja auch nicht
00:36 < tsa> sondern?
00:36 < holyolli> soll ich jetzt und hier namen nennen...?
00:36 < holyolli> ;-)
00:36 < _NULL> holyolli: lass' mal lieber
00:36 < tsa> holyolli: lass dich nicht abhalten.
00:37 < holyolli> was denn nu...ihr könnt euch ja auch nicht entscheiden.. ;)
00:37 < holyolli> <- ist dann mal still
00:37 < holyolli> ;)
00:37 < tsa> hehe
00:42 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A78.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("°ShowDowN v12 PrO° since 1996: https://www.sci.fi/~showdown/")
01:12 -!- sam| [~sam@pD9E4C6F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Pringles timout")
01:18 < tsa> cu all.
01:19 < tsa> <- tired, going to bed.
01:19 < holyolli> n8 tsa
01:19 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD95254C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting")
01:21 -!- clifford [~clifford@M123P017.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
01:23 -!- clifford [~clifford@M095P008.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
01:27 -!- ge0rg is now known as Ge0rG
01:33 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has quit ("X-Chat: its wax ecstatic")
03:17 -!- _NULL [trilluser@B5b38.pppool.de] has quit ("back to fscking reality.")
03:50 < rolla> anyone alive in here ?
03:51 * Ge0rG is fighting the water
03:52 < rolla> water ?
03:53 < Freak> Ge0rG: where do you live?
03:53 < Ge0rG> Magdeburg
03:54 < rolla> oh the floodes
03:55 < Freak> Ge0rG: ouch.. hope it stays dry
03:55 < Ge0rG> me too
03:55 < Freak> Ge0rG: friends of mine haven't been online for days, they live in Freital near Dresden
03:56 < Freak> :(
03:56 < Freak> [anders]: burning..
03:56 < Ge0rG> I suppose they don't have phone and power supply
03:56 < Freak> right
03:56 < Freak> I just hope they're allright
03:56 < Freak> and their stuff.. y'no
04:02 < rolla> suck
04:03 < Freak> shit
04:03 < Freak> write track data: error after 450066432 bytes
04:03 < Freak> dang.
04:03 < Freak> there goes another cd-r
04:15 -!- fronti [~kliche@zebra.fh-weingarten.de] has joined #rocklinux
04:15 < fronti> hello
04:16 < Ge0rG> fronti: :)
04:16 < fronti> moin ge0rg
04:17 * Ge0rG is going to bed now
04:17 < Freak> gnite
04:17 < fronti> good night ge0rg
04:17 < fronti> i wish you not too much water..
04:18 < Ge0rG> :]
04:18 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has quit ("Irssi - the client of smart and beautiful people")
04:20 < fronti> hmm, I'm planing to build an Mailing list archive of the rock linux mailing lists, which is searchable ( like the one i do for transcode) but i need a tarball of the mbox file...
04:20 < fronti> from all lists
04:21 < fronti> or is there already a searchable archive?
04:22 < fronti> the new mails are no problem, only the old..
04:26 < fronti> hmm, ok
04:26 < fronti> gn8
04:35 < Freak> rolla?
04:35 < rolla> yeah
04:35 < Freak> you downloaded [anders]' iso as well, right?
04:35 < rolla> yes
04:35 < Freak> uhm
04:35 < Freak> what am I supposed to do with it?
04:35 < Freak> besides inserting it into the drive
04:35 < rolla> :)
04:35 < Freak> ;)
04:36 < rolla> well I mean it is a stable build of 1.5.18 with gnome2
04:36 < Freak> okay..
04:36 < rolla> I would use it to load rock :)
04:36 < rolla> anything else you need to know ?
04:36 < Freak> yea
04:37 < Freak> I inserted it, booted from it.. uhm.. now.. like.. what?
04:37 < rolla> you are new to rock yes ?
04:37 < Freak> no
04:37 < Freak> not at all
04:38 < Freak> ok
04:38 < Freak> I made it up
04:38 < rolla> ?
04:38 < Freak> I'm totally new, this is my first rock-thingie :)
04:38 < rolla> do you know how to mount cd's under linux ?
04:38 < Freak> I'm not even sure which part of the documentation to read..
04:38 < Freak> I do
04:39 < rolla> once you mount it there is the Documentation dir
04:39 < Freak> ahh
04:39 < Freak> so this is just in the ramdisk now
04:39 < rolla> go in there and there is a INSTALL doc it is very useeful
04:39 < rolla> yes
04:39 < Freak> and I have to mount the cd
04:39 < Freak> ahhh
04:39 < Freak> kay
04:39 < rolla> you boot mount
04:39 < Freak> ;)
04:40 < rolla> well I need to go to bed .
04:40 < Freak> k thanks & cu
05:00 < Freak> lol
05:00 < Freak> this [ROCK Linux Install Shell]-ASCII-Animation is cool :)))
05:02 < Freak> is that KDE3 unpacking there?
05:02 < Freak> I guess
05:15 -!- chrisime_ is now known as chriZzzz
05:18 -!- TheWizard [trilluser@CPE014100009507.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #rocklinux
05:33 -!- TheWizard [trilluser@CPE014100009507.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #rocklinux ()
06:03 -!- kaerF [freak@pD953062B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
06:04 -!- Freak [freak@pD953063E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: kaerF!freak@pD953062B.dip.t-dialin.net)))
06:04 -!- kaerF is now known as Freak
08:02 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has joined #rocklinux
08:11 < [anders]> Freak: so you got the ISO alright then... :)
08:11 < [anders]> rolla: and you too it appears.. :)
08:21 < [anders]> <- afk (driving to work)
08:29 < huebi> good morning ;-)
09:09 < th> moin
09:14 -!- clifford [~clifford@M095P008.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
09:23 < [anders]> good morning huebi :)
09:23 < [anders]> moin th
09:24 < [anders]> Aaahh... quite a nice day today I would be inclined to say. Now it would be nice to hear from rolla and Freak.. :)
09:24 -!- clifford [~clifford@M090P012.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
09:24 < [anders]> moin clifford
09:28 -!- ringo78 [ringo78@xs4.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux
09:29 < ringo78> hi all !
09:29 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@212.116.24.1] has joined #rocklinux
09:29 < bluefire> Moin
09:51 -!- bluefire_ [~bluefire@212.116.24.1] has joined #rocklinux
09:52 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@212.116.24.1] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: bluefire_!~bluefire@212.116.24.1)))
09:52 -!- bluefire_ is now known as bluefire
10:07 < fronti> moin
10:34 -!- ringo78 [ringo78@xs4.xs4all.nl] has quit ("leaving")
10:54 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A78.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux
11:25 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958D441.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
11:25 < thalerim> moin
11:26 < fronti> moin thalerim
11:30 -!- thalerim is now known as thaly^rock_menu
11:34 -!- tomik_ [~tomik@212.11.125.147] has joined #rocklinux
11:34 -!- tomik [~tomik@212.11.125.147] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
12:04 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-5a48.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux
12:21 -!- Netsplit vinge.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: rolla, [anders], d3mian, fake
12:21 -!- Netsplit over, joins: d3mian, [anders], rolla, fake
12:21 -!- [anders]_ [anders@62.3.122.161] has joined #rocklinux
12:21 -!- [anders] [anders@62.3.122.161] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
12:22 -!- [anders]_ is now known as [anders]
12:52 -!- Netsplit vinge.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: rolla, d3mian, fake
12:53 -!- Netsplit over, joins: d3mian, rolla, fake
12:55 -!- plfiorini is now known as plfiorini|pappa
13:05 -!- plfiorini|pappa is now known as plfiorini
13:06 -!- plfiorini is now known as plfiorini|a
13:12 < Freak> [anders]?
13:13 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has joined #rocklinux
13:13 < holyolli> moin
13:23 < huebi> hallo holyolli
13:24 < holyolli> hi huebi
13:29 < Freak> which editor am I supposed to take to edit /etc/conf/devfs and stuff?
13:29 < Freak> (when installing..)
13:29 < holyolli> vi
13:29 < Freak> not there.
13:29 < holyolli> is your $PATH correct?
13:29 < Freak> I dunno
13:30 < holyolli> vi is afair under /usr/bin
13:30 < Freak> yes it's correct
13:30 < Freak> vi: command not found
13:30 < thaly^rock_menu> Freak: . /etc/profile
13:30 < thaly^rock_menu> after chrooting
13:30 < Freak> although locate locates it in /usr/bin
13:30 < Freak> and this is in my path.
13:30 < thaly^rock_menu> did you install vim or vi?
13:30 < thaly^rock_menu> vim or nvi
13:31 < Freak> I selected */*
13:31 < Freak> so I dunno what's there :)
13:31 < Freak> but locate finds vi under /usr/bin.
13:31 < thaly^rock_menu> Freak: did you build everything as wel? Or did you choose at build time what you want?
13:31 < Freak> tho it's not there.
13:31 < thaly^rock_menu> oh
13:31 < thaly^rock_menu> ok
13:32 < Freak> I had [anders]' iso
13:32 < Freak> so I didn't actually build anything.
13:32 < thaly^rock_menu> /usr/bin/vi must work
13:32 < Freak> does not.
13:32 < Freak> since it's not there.
13:32 < thaly^rock_menu> lol ... WTF?
13:32 < Freak> locate finds it but it aint there.
13:32 < holyolli> right perms?
13:33 < thaly^rock_menu> holyolli: it doesn't exist
13:33 < Freak> whoami? root.
13:33 < Freak> right.
13:33 < holyolli> oi.
13:33 < Freak> certainly. ;)
13:33 < thaly^rock_menu> Freak: anders is an emacs user
13:33 < thaly^rock_menu> maybe he didn't pack vi(m) onto the iso
13:33 < Freak> emacs misses libncurses
13:34 < thaly^rock_menu> omg
13:34 < Freak> altho I don't know how to use it, I tried that yet.
13:34 < thaly^rock_menu> ed is certainly installed, but could try a find / -name 'vi*'
13:35 < Freak> yup, ed is there.. dunno how to use it
13:35 < thaly^rock_menu> it's like a torture
13:35 < Freak> find locates vi at /usr/bin/vi
13:35 < Freak> I dunno why..
13:35 < thaly^rock_menu> mh?
13:36 < thaly^rock_menu> ls -l /usr/bin/vi
13:36 < Freak> if I do /usr/bin/vi it says no such file
13:36 < thaly^rock_menu> urgs
13:36 < Freak> is a link to nvi
13:36 < thaly^rock_menu> i though you ls'd
13:36 < thaly^rock_menu> check the perms
13:36 < Freak> nvi: command not found
13:36 < Freak> nvi isnt there now
13:36 < thaly^rock_menu> *lol*
13:37 < Freak> nope.
13:37 < Freak> this is what's missing.
13:37 < thaly^rock_menu> mh
13:37 < thaly^rock_menu> is it another PC?
13:37 < Freak> yup
13:37 < Freak> sure
13:38 < Freak> ifconfig says 'cannot open /proc/net/dev..'
13:38 < thaly^rock_menu> mount none /proc -t proc
13:38 < thaly^rock_menu> in the chroot
13:38 < Freak> ok
13:39 < thaly^rock_menu> but you could download nvi with the current pc, pack it onto a disk (dunno how big the sources are)
13:39 < Freak> ifconfig says nothing now. :)
13:39 < thaly^rock_menu> no wonder, nothing has been initialized so far
13:39 < Freak> can't I use something else? I don't have any floppies or cd-rws left
13:39 < Freak> right..
13:39 < thaly^rock_menu> ed
13:40 < Freak> how's it supposed to be used? :)
13:40 < thaly^rock_menu> but the last time i used it ... was a year ago or so *g*
13:40 < huebi> [l,s]trace nvi ?
13:40 < Freak> heh
13:40 < thaly^rock_menu> huebi: nvi isn't installed at all
13:40 < huebi> [l,s]trace vim ?
13:41 < Freak> no *vi*
13:41 < thaly^rock_menu> for what?
13:41 < thaly^rock_menu> it's not there ... however
13:41 < thaly^rock_menu> try to get along with ed
13:42 < Freak> I will..
13:43 < fake> heh, gcc 3.2 is out!
13:43 < fake> *jumps aound*
13:44 < huebi> huhu fake
13:45 < fake> hi huebi !
13:45 < huebi> fake: I think you were not online yesterday
13:45 < fake> huebi: it's a lie, it was not released on 14th Aug. i checked every morning -_-
13:47 < Freak> uhm
13:47 < Freak> /dev/root - no such file or directory?
13:47 < thaly^rock_menu> mount none /dev -t devfs
13:47 < Freak> ah ok
13:47 < thaly^rock_menu> actually you must do it *before* install
13:48 < Freak> huhm
13:48 < Freak> well
13:48 < Freak> so what now?
13:48 < thaly^rock_menu> i ran into strange problems, because i forgot it as well at my first installation
13:48 < Freak> mnkay so you think this might be my .. problem?
13:48 < thaly^rock_menu> the docu says "Mount all blah" ... but it should explicitly say "don't forget devfs and procfs"
13:49 < thaly^rock_menu> Freak: i did a rm -rf / in the chroot
13:49 < Freak> 2.5 Mounting the file system structure
13:49 < Freak> Mount the new file system(s) at /trg and the source (i.e. the installation
13:49 < Freak> packages) at /src.
13:49 < Freak> that's all I did
13:49 < thaly^rock_menu> and re-installed it
13:49 < Freak> heh right ;)
13:50 < thaly^rock_menu> Freak: as i said the docu lacks ... could be that it's not necessary
13:50 < thaly^rock_menu> but in 1.5.12 it was definetively
13:50 < Freak> I just don't wanna reinstall now if it's not necessary
13:50 < Freak> this is 1.5.18
13:51 < Freak> and it's 1.5.18's documentation
13:51 < thaly^rock_menu> clifford: !!! are you here?
13:51 < thaly^rock_menu> Freak: the docu hasn't chnaged from so far
13:51 < Freak> mnkay
13:52 < thaly^rock_menu> Freak: clifford should know if it's necessary ... hehe
13:52 < Freak> [anders]?
13:52 < Freak> he should be able to help, it's his iso
13:53 < thaly^rock_menu> no, not actually
13:53 < thaly^rock_menu> clifford wrote the installation process AFAIK
13:53 < Freak> I don't think he creates an iso without knowing how to install it, huh?
13:53 < clifford> what's up?
13:54 < thaly^rock_menu> clifford: it is necassary to mount proc and dev into trg/ before installation?
13:54 < clifford> xchat highlighted a few lines because my name where used in them .. ;-)
13:54 < Freak> heh
13:54 < thaly^rock_menu> i didn't do it in 1.5.12 aand encountered to some strange problems
13:54 < thaly^rock_menu> since then i do it always
13:55 < clifford> no. only after extracting the packages and before you runt setup.d in chrooted /trg.
13:55 < thaly^rock_menu> haha
13:55 < Freak> hey I didn't do that
13:55 < thaly^rock_menu> they're called after installation
13:55 < Freak> I didn't do setup.d
13:55 < Freak> ok so it's automatic?
13:56 < clifford> no - it's not.
13:56 * fake getting gcc-3.2 and binutils-2.13.90.0.4
13:56 < clifford> (have been in 1.4)
13:56 < fake> clifford: hi!
13:56 < Freak> ah so this _might_ be a problem..
13:56 * clifford is building glibc whith gcc 3.2
13:56 < Freak> where is setup.d?
13:56 < Freak> so I'm currently in the state of having done chrtrg
13:56 < clifford> etc/setup.d/*
13:56 < thaly^rock_menu> clifford: you should update the docu, after installation you're asked if you wanna run the setup-scripts, and for that you *need* a mounted /trg/proc and a mounted /trg/dev
13:58 -!- chriZzzz is now known as chrisime
13:58 < thaly^rock_menu> moin chrisime
13:58 < chrisime> jojo
13:58 < Freak> dang
13:58 < Freak> ok..
13:58 < Freak> uhm
13:58 < chrisime> bin zwar schon 4 stunden wach .., ;)
13:58 < fake> clifford: did you update binutils beforehand?
13:59 < Freak> thaly^rock_menu: can you.. like.. go on helping me? :)
13:59 < Freak> ok so I did '/etc/setup.d/00-general setup' now..
13:59 < thaly^rock_menu> before you mounted proc and devfs?
14:00 < Freak> uhm well I did that before since you told me
14:01 < clifford> fake: no. still using 2.13.90.0.3 ..
14:01 < thaly^rock_menu> Freak: ok
14:01 < Freak> I did 'mount none /dev/ -t devfs' and 'mount none /proc/ -t proc'
14:01 < Freak> anything missing? guess not
14:01 < fake> clifford: from the binutils-2.13.90.0.4 changelog: "2. Fix symbol versioning bugs for gcc 3.2."
14:01 < thaly^rock_menu> in the chroot, okay then ... the setup-scripts are self-describing
14:01 -!- zoran [~commander@p5087EF52.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
14:01 < clifford> fake: I'm already updating ..
14:02 < Freak> thaly^rock_menu: actually those scripts ran already.
14:02 < fake> clifford: i don't think i'll have to send you patches then... ;)
14:02 < thaly^rock_menu> Freak: huh? it asks some questions, you must answer
14:02 < Freak> that happened before.
14:03 < thaly^rock_menu> so they alredy ran and finished?
14:03 < Freak> 3. Installing the packages.
14:03 < Freak> wait..
14:03 < Freak> this one:
14:03 < Freak> 4.1. When the unpacking of files is done, you will be asked for permission to
14:03 < Freak> perform some semi-automatic configuration of your system. Allow this, and
14:03 < Freak> answer the questions.
14:03 < clifford> fake: no you don't need to ..
14:03 < Freak> I did that.
14:04 < thaly^rock_menu> Freak: sorry ... i am confused now. Did you run the scripts directly after installation when you was asked, or did you answer with 'no' and ran them in the chroot manually?
14:05 < Freak> I was asked and said yes because the documentation said so
14:05 < thaly^rock_menu> Freak: har!
14:05 < thaly^rock_menu> as i said the docu sucks
14:05 < Freak> (the point I just pasted)
14:05 < Freak> that's not my fault!! ;)
14:06 < thaly^rock_menu> 'cause you must have mounted proc and dev in the chroot-dir, i.e. /trg ... *before* you run the setup-scripts
14:06 < Freak> ok so I'll go and reinstall that stuff
14:06 < thaly^rock_menu> i did exactly the same and had problems, i want you to reinstall
14:07 < Freak> k I'm just rebooting.
14:07 < thaly^rock_menu> mom
14:07 < thaly^rock_menu> you needn't actually
14:07 < Freak> too late
14:07 < Freak> back in the cd's system
14:07 < thaly^rock_menu> okay, you know now what to do, don't you?
14:08 < [anders]> Hello..
14:08 < thaly^rock_menu> just swapon, and mount your created partitions in /trg as well as procfs and devfs
14:08 < [anders]> uhm.. vim should be on that CD...
14:08 < Freak> hey [anders]
14:08 < Freak> it aint
14:08 < [anders]> /usr/bin/vim
14:08 < Freak> at least.. never mind
14:08 < [anders]> (at least that is what I would expect.. :)
14:09 < thaly^rock_menu> Freak: ls /mnt/*/rock-*/base-*/vim*
14:09 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@paradome.de] has joined #rocklinux
14:09 < Freak> no such file .. but I didn't mount the cd yet ;)
14:09 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has quit ("fnord!")
14:09 < Freak> ok
14:10 < Freak> I'll mount the cd into /src and the disk into /trg now
14:10 < [anders]> shuttle:/rock-linux# ls rock-ia32-i686-1.5.18-Gnome2/base-pkgs/*vi*
14:10 < [anders]> rock-ia32-i686-1.5.18-Gnome2/base-pkgs/nvi.tar.bz2
14:10 < [anders]> rock-ia32-i686-1.5.18-Gnome2/base-pkgs/sysvinit.tar.bz2
14:10 < [anders]> rock-ia32-i686-1.5.18-Gnome2/base-pkgs/uudeview.tar.bz2
14:10 < [anders]> rock-ia32-i686-1.5.18-Gnome2/base-pkgs/vim.tar.bz2
14:10 < [anders]> both vi and vim was built..
14:10 < Freak> cd and / mounted.
14:10 < Freak> now what next?
14:10 < [anders]> aber....
14:11 < [anders]> there is no usr/bin/vim in the vim package.. ???
14:11 < thaly^rock_menu> Freak: do you have just one partition?
14:11 < Freak> actually I have one partition and an additional /home partition.
14:11 < thaly^rock_menu> [anders]: strange ... filewrapper problem?
14:11 * [anders] is very very confused now...
14:12 < [anders]> shuttle:/rock-linux# tar jtvf rock-ia32-i686-1.5.18-Gnome2/base-pkgs/nvi.tar.bz2
14:12 < [anders]> lrwxrwxrwx root/root 0 2002-08-14 09:59:20 usr/bin/vi -> nvi
14:12 < [anders]> -rw-r--r-- root/root 13 2002-08-14 09:59:20 var/adm/cksums/nvi
14:12 < [anders]> -rw-r--r-- root/root 115 2002-08-14 09:59:20 var/adm/flists/nvi
14:12 < [anders]> -rw-r--r-- root/root 36 2002-08-14 09:59:20 var/adm/md5sums/nvi
14:12 < [anders]> -rw-r--r-- root/root 1111 2002-08-14 09:59:20 var/adm/packages/nvi
14:12 < [anders]> the file wrapper does not seem to have created all the files as it should have done..
14:12 < Freak> dang
14:12 < Freak> :)
14:12 < [anders]> thaly^rock_menu: I guess it could be a wrapper problem..
14:13 < Freak> never mind, I can edit the files using echo ;)
14:13 < [anders]> and the wrapper I do not know how it works..
14:13 < Freak> thaly^rock_menu: can I go on with Install now?
14:15 -!- v2e5b3a8e [~snyke@pD9502A4E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux
14:17 < Freak> v2e5b3a8e: nice root password?!
14:17 < Freak> ;)
14:17 < Freak> thaly^rock_menu?
14:18 < Freak> hey you're still ponging, don't pretend having been cut off!
14:19 < Freak> ;P
14:19 < thaly^rock_menu> sorry
14:19 < thaly^rock_menu> being here agian
14:19 < thaly^rock_menu> again
14:20 < thaly^rock_menu> Freak: yes, you can ...
14:20 < Freak> :)
14:20 < Freak> cool :)
14:21 < Freak> inschtalling..
14:23 < Freak> huh
14:23 < Freak> is it hanging?
14:23 < Freak> ah no
14:23 < Freak> whee :)
14:23 < Freak> whew even
14:24 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A78.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
14:24 < v2e5b3a8e> hmm
14:24 * v2e5b3a8e = snyke
14:24 -!- v2e5b3a8e [~snyke@pD9502A4E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("°ShowDowN v12 PrO° since 1996: https://www.sci.fi/~showdown/")
14:24 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A4E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux
14:27 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@faic.Physik.uni-augsburg.de] has quit ("l4t3r")
14:28 < Freak> snyke: as I said: nice password ;)
14:28 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@faic.Physik.uni-augsburg.de] has joined #rocklinux
14:29 * [anders] still has not been able to figure out why nvi and vim packages ended up w/o binaries in them..
14:29 < Freak> huhm
14:29 < [anders]> the emacs package and others I looked at have all their bits in them as I would expect.
14:30 < Freak> [anders]: emacs said it missed libncurses
14:30 < thaly^rock_menu> [anders]: no idea ... write to list ... or talk to clifford personally
14:30 < Freak> right ;)
14:30 < Freak> just blame clifford ;)
14:31 < [anders]> libncurses... lemme check it..
14:32 < [anders]> ncurses.tar.bz2 has nothing but the files for /var/adm in them.. :(
14:32 < Freak> hrm
14:32 < thaly^rock_menu> lol ... What the - ?
14:32 < [anders]> Something must have been very screwy in that build....
14:32 < [anders]> Build-All didn't complain about anything however..
14:33 < chrisime> hmm
14:33 < [anders]> shuttle:/rock-linux# ls -l dist/usr/lib/libncurses*
14:33 < [anders]> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 230956 Aug 14 09:53 dist/usr/lib/libncurses++.a
14:33 < [anders]> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 184098 Aug 14 09:53 dist/usr/lib/libncurses.a
14:33 < [anders]> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Aug 14 09:53 dist/usr/lib/libncurses.so -> libncurses.so.5
14:33 < [anders]> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Aug 14 09:53 dist/usr/lib/libncurses.so.5 -> libncurses.so.5.2
14:33 < [anders]> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 124553 Aug 14 09:53 dist/usr/lib/libncurses.so.5.2
14:33 < [anders]> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2681550 Aug 14 09:53 dist/usr/lib/libncurses_g.a
14:33 < [anders]> they were built alright, but not packaged correctly..
14:34 < chrisime> for in in [a-e]; do blabla; done doesn't work. any suggestions?
14:34 < [anders]> shuttle:/rock-linux# ls -l dist/usr/bin/{nvi,vim}
14:34 < [anders]> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root daemon 358304 Aug 14 09:59 dist/usr/bin/nvi
14:34 < [anders]> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1607288 Aug 14 10:23 dist/usr/bin/vim
14:34 < thaly^rock_menu> chrisime: for i in ...
14:35 < chrisime> yes
14:35 < chrisime> typo
14:35 < chrisime> for i in [e-z]; do cd $i && make that && make this && ...; done
14:35 < chrisime> doesn't work
14:36 < thaly^rock_menu> what do you want?
14:36 < chrisime> cd in that dir
14:36 < chrisime> and make clean
14:36 < thaly^rock_menu> you want to got in e, f, g, h, i, ... zill z?
14:36 < chrisime> dirs which begin with e, f, g, h ... z
14:36 < thaly^rock_menu> okay
14:36 < chrisime> mhm
14:37 < [anders]> for dir in [e-z]* ; do (cd $dir ; do this ; do that ) ; done
14:37 < chrisime> ah oki
14:37 < chrisime> should work
14:38 < thaly^rock_menu> clifford: are you here?
14:40 < Freak> thaly^rock_menu: unpacking/installing/whatever is done
14:41 < Freak> ok well 2 packages left
14:41 < thaly^rock_menu> as you mountd proc and dev to /trg, you can run the setup scripts without any fear
14:42 < Freak> okay
14:43 < fake> clifford : ?
14:43 < Freak> thaly^rock_menu: uhm
14:43 < Freak> thaly^rock_menu: so I answered 'no' now but it runs this script..
14:44 < Freak> that script.. asking me to set the keyboard mapping
14:44 < thaly^rock_menu> why did you no?
14:45 < Freak> you said I should didnt you
14:45 < thaly^rock_menu> <thaly^rock_menu> as you mountd proc and dev to /trg, you can run the setup scripts without any fear
14:45 < Freak> but how to .... dang other consoles
14:46 < thaly^rock_menu> ???
14:46 < thaly^rock_menu> clifford: need you to blame ;-)
14:46 < Freak> mount none /proc -t proc
14:46 < Freak> mount: proc already mounted
14:46 -!- plfiorini|a [~plfiorini@r-bo043-5a48.tin.it] has quit ("Shake your head")
14:46 < thaly^rock_menu> Freak: i think you did mount procfs and devfs to /trg/proc, respectively /trg/dev
14:46 * fake schmeisst sich weg
14:47 < Freak> mount: according to mtab, none is already mounted on /dev
14:47 < Freak> uhm
14:47 < Freak> no
14:47 < Freak> ok that's it then
14:47 < thaly^rock_menu> LOL
14:47 < fake> Gem: a special stone, like "Katezengold" or Jade
14:47 < thaly^rock_menu> kappes ... davon habe nwir doch die ganze zeit geprochen :->
14:48 < Freak> narf
14:48 < chrisime> fake: du dich wegschmiessen? will sehen
14:48 < Freak> none already mounted or /trg/proc busy
14:48 < Freak> according to mtab, none is already mounted on /trg/proc
14:48 < fake> chrisime: i was just informed about the name of the ROCK Package manager ;)
14:48 < Freak> take marmor
14:49 < Freak> thaly^rock_menu: now what?!
14:49 < Freak> thaly^rock_menu: they don't mount or are already or .. what the heck do I know
14:50 < thaly^rock_menu> Freak: you confuse me ... it couldm't be that heavy to mount your wished partitions to /trg as well as procfs and devfs, install the crap and then run the setup-scripts ???
14:50 < Freak> thaly^rock_menu: how the fsck do I do that
14:50 -!- term_emu [~pm@pD9E33556.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
14:50 < chrisime> fake: hehehe
14:51 < Freak> mount none /trg/dev -t devfs says "already mounted or busy"
14:51 < thaly^rock_menu> then it's OKAY
14:51 < thaly^rock_menu> run the dam nscripts
14:51 < Freak> but I DIDNT TO IT
14:51 < thaly^rock_menu> THEN DO IT NOW
14:51 < Freak> but I DID THAT BEFORE
14:51 < thaly^rock_menu> *???* *bang*
14:51 < thaly^rock_menu> *died*
14:52 < term_emu> hou
14:52 < Freak> if that setup mounts them itself, I didn't miss mounting them before but still that installation was fscked
14:54 < Freak> would you like me to create a ssh host keypair? - yes - /usr/bin/ssh-keygen: error while loading shared libraries (x3). would you like me to start sshd at bootup? - yes
14:54 < Freak> @ [anders]
14:56 < thaly^rock_menu> huebi: are you here?
14:57 < Freak> thaly^rock_menu: ok.. I answered 'no' when it asked me to run the setup scripts but still ran the setup scripts.
14:57 < [anders]> Freak: I don't know what has happened, but it appears that some packages has not been packaged correctly..
14:57 < Freak> thaly^rock_menu: so can I chroot it now?
14:57 < Freak> [anders]: I thought you tested it.. :(
14:58 < thaly^rock_menu> Freak: you should throw this iso away
14:58 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-5a48.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux
14:58 * Freak needs to buy cd-rws again.
14:58 < thaly^rock_menu> it's fucked up indeed
15:00 < Freak> so that's how to scare your customers! ;)
15:01 * fake starting 100% gcc-3.2 build
15:02 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A4E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("°ShowDowN v12 PrO° since 1996: https://www.sci.fi/~showdown/")
15:03 < fake> clifford: are ypu still here?
15:07 < SMP> th?
15:07 < fake> moin SMP
15:07 < th> ack
15:07 < fake> hi th
15:08 < SMP> th: have a script to generate commit emails from cvs _including a diff_ by chance?
15:08 < th> SMP: nothing like that available
15:08 * SMP found one in the PHP CVS, but ...
15:08 < fake> err... esden has one on apolloe
15:09 < fake> if you tell me where to look, i'd see what i can do
15:09 < SMP> I can't tell you that, I guess :)
15:09 < fake> urgh. wait a minute.
15:10 * th is away again.
15:10 < th> need sleep
15:10 < SMP> cu th
15:11 < rolla> re all
15:12 < fake> i have no idea.
15:12 < fake> n8 th, hi rolla!
15:13 < Freak> <TcShBoY> where is the /etc/passwd located?
15:15 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux
15:15 < Mike1> moin
15:15 < rolla> re Mike1
15:15 < Mike1> hi rolla
15:16 < Freak> hey Mike1
15:16 < Mike1> hello Freak :)
15:17 < hackbard> miguel!
15:17 < hackbard> hi
15:17 < Mike1> Frank :)
15:17 < hackbard> hdwlinux.org will be our domain soon
15:18 < hackbard> Aka also konwn as Maik registered it for me
15:18 < Mike1> hackbard: o_O ???
15:18 < Mike1> [anders]: awake?
15:19 < Mike1> hackbard: meet ya at hdw in a bit
15:19 < hackbard> oups ..
15:19 < hackbard> thought we are ther :p
15:19 < Mike1> hehe
15:22 < thaly^rock_menu> there are 9 build stages, aren't there?
15:23 < Mike1> thaly^rock_menu: yes
15:23 < thaly^rock_menu> ok
15:24 < fake> there is a stage nr. 9 in Rock 1.7, yes
15:24 < fake> but stage 7+8 are not used, IIRC
15:25 < Mike1> hi fake
15:25 < fake> hola, Mike1 !
15:26 < hackbard> actually there are 10
15:26 < Mike1> 0-9
15:26 < hackbard> :)
15:34 < fake> that's why i said nr. 9 :P
15:34 < Mike1> :PP
15:34 < fake> kriegst nen keks, streber
15:45 < [anders]> Mike1: da..
15:45 < Mike1> [anders]: moin
15:45 < [anders]> is awake, trying to get my head around why some packages on teh 1.5.18-Gnome2 ISO does not have all the files for the package in them..
15:45 < [anders]> Mike1: Hejsan svejsan.. :)
15:46 < Mike1> [anders]: did you run into trouble on stage5?
15:46 < Mike1> 1.5.18-Gnome2 ISO
15:46 < Mike1> NICE!!!!!!!
15:48 < [anders]> Mike1: no, it isn't nice.. nvi, vim and ncurses for example does not contain the files they should..
15:48 < Mike1> o_O??
15:48 < [anders]> I guess there is a flist problem, but I am not sure.. All the files got built, but did not end up in the package..
15:49 < Mike1> [anders]: but those files are not related with gnome2
15:49 < Mike1> so it should be actually a general problem right?
15:49 < [anders]> Freak: sorry about the ISO... the page does say though it was untested.. :-/
15:49 < Mike1> page?
15:49 < [anders]> Mike1: yes, it is a general problem. Emacs and gnome-session were both OK afaict..
15:50 < fake> . o O ( you released an untested iso? )
15:50 < [anders]> Mike1: https://62.3.122.161:8080/
15:50 < Mike1> fake: you donwloaded an untested iso?
15:50 < [anders]> fake: no hardware and no time but with a warning attached..
15:50 < fake> no =D
15:50 < fake> well, that's fine with me.
15:51 * [anders] will make 3 click-through thing before download is possible... ;-)
15:51 < fake> there was a fix to the flist wrapper in 1.7, but it only regarded top-level-directories
15:51 < fake> [anders]: hehe. registration forms
15:51 < Mike1> [anders]: hehe nice page :)
15:52 < fake> whack-a-mole in html forms ;)
15:52 < [anders]> fake: the odd thing is that the vim package I think contained the link from vi to vim, but no usr/bin/vim executable
15:52 < [anders]> fake: hehehe.. perhaps that is the thing to do.. :)
15:53 < fake> <- has not the slightest idea about 1.5 internals
15:54 < fake> huh? glibc seems to compile with gcc 3.2?!
15:55 < fake> DAMN DAMN DAMN! Now that i have to pack my mips again...
15:55 < fake> on the last day of my holidays..... *sigh*
15:57 < [anders]> Mike1: the scary stuff is that in the dist tree for the build, all the bits are there.. they just never ended up in the packages...
15:57 < fake> flist problem
15:58 < Mike1> [anders]: strange
15:58 < [anders]> fake: I guess.. but I would have expected others to have run across the problem if that was the case..
15:58 < [anders]> I wonder if it has something to do with me using -j2 for building..
15:58 < fake> [anders]: well... someone must be first ;)
15:59 < [anders]> fake: Yeah, but preferably not on the first drop of the Gnome2 build.. :-/
16:00 < fake> gnome2 won't run away, will it?
16:00 < [anders]> if the build scripts are tweaked to always (no exception) do 'make -j1 install' for packages, perhaps fflist will cope better with that?
16:00 -!- tomik_ [~tomik@212.11.125.147] has quit (Remote closed the connection)
16:01 * fake doesn't know
16:01 < fake> but generally, -j causes more problems than it solves
16:01 < [anders]> fake: no, but people were interested in trying it out.. If the whole install lacks some rather vital things (like ncurses) it isn't good..
16:01 < [anders]> I'll rebuild the whole thing with -j1.. at least we know that that actually works..
16:02 < fake> [anders] how do you know? it's an assumption
16:02 * fake thinks about the quantenbogonitaetstheorie
16:03 < [anders]> You are right, it is only an assumption, but imho a likely one..
16:03 -!- tomik [~tomik@bremaiva.worldonline.cz] has joined #rocklinux
16:03 < fake> [anders] you'll find out ;)
16:03 < fake> hi tomik
16:03 < [anders]> fake: indeed... the ISO on the -j1 build should become bigger..
16:03 < Mike1> [anders]: how big is it now btw?
16:04 < fake> well... it SHOULD NOT. but it hopefully will.
16:07 < [anders]> Mike1: well, the ISO was 540MB.. but that was with missing bits..
16:08 < Mike1> yeah
16:08 < [anders]> Mike1: look at the page again.. :)
16:08 < Mike1> i am finishing my build but i believe the iso will be missing stuff
16:09 < [anders]> Well, I have set the Config down to 1 parallel jobs.. That should ensure a fully working build..
16:09 < Mike1> [anders]: hehe
16:09 < [anders]> Well, as soon as I have the ISO again, it'll be back..
16:10 < [anders]> the fixed ISO that is.. (Dang, I need a box to test the install on..)
16:11 < fake> == 08/16/02 16:06:34 =[0]=> Finished building package glibc.
16:11 * Mike1 has the box, you make the iso
16:11 < fake> WEEEEE!
16:11 < fake> it REALLy BUILDS!
16:12 < Mike1> fake: conratz!
16:12 < [anders]> Mike1: ok.. I'll let you know when the ISO is available..
16:12 < fake> glibc 2.2.5 with gcc 3.2
16:12 < Mike1> [anders]: i belive other will be interested in testing it eg. rolla
16:13 < rolla> :)
16:15 < [anders]> rolla: don't use the ISO..
16:16 < Mike1> [anders]: btw rolla is running a build as well
16:16 < [anders]> rolla: for some reason some packages are broken (i.e. don't contain the files that was built in the package)
16:16 * [anders] suspects it's the make -j2 that causes trouble
16:16 * Mike1 <AOL> too </AOL
16:17 < Mike1> +>
16:25 < rolla> okay
16:25 < rolla> I shall remove it
16:26 < [anders]> rolla: sorry about that.. I didn't know packages were broken.. :-(
16:27 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux
16:27 < SMP> hmmm
16:28 < rolla> hey no problem
16:28 < SMP> https://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2045864702 <- would make a fine rocklinux.de installation ;>
16:28 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has quit ()
16:30 < fake> iiiiek. ia32.
16:30 < fake> und zusätzlich: 1 x Mediakit Windows Advanced Server engl.
16:31 < fake> 1 x Mediakit Exchange Server 2000 engl. 312-01320 geschenkt!
16:31 < fake> na, da freuen wir uns aber!
16:32 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-5a48.tin.it] has quit ("Shake your head")
16:37 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has joined #rocklinux
16:38 < clifford> If anyone is interested: https://www.rocklinux.org/people/clifford/GEM-MINE/
16:38 < thaly^rock_menu> ah clifford
16:38 * Mike1 is interested
16:38 < Mike1> hi clifford
16:38 < fake> clifford: got mail?
16:39 < clifford> (just the main function with the code for parsing the options and creating gem files is implemented so far.
16:39 < thaly^rock_menu> clifford: all files in /usr/include/gtk-1.2/ have permission rwxr-x---
16:39 < clifford> It's 800kB because I bundle cdb, bzip2 and libtar.
16:39 < thaly^rock_menu> they should have rwxr--r-
16:40 < clifford> no - they should have rw-r--r-- ...
16:40 < clifford> and the directories should have rwxr-xr-x
16:40 < thaly^rock_menu> yes
16:42 < thaly^rock_menu> clifford: you'll fix it?
16:42 < [anders]> clifford: can you foretell any problems with make -j2 and the flist thingy?
16:43 < clifford> "make -jN" has been removed in 1.7
16:43 < clifford> what's about flist?
16:44 < clifford> thaly^rock_menu: please send me a mail about it. I cant fix it right now.
16:44 < [anders]> clifford: basically, I ran a whole build with make -j2 and some packages ended up missing files in the resulting packages although everything existed in the dist/ tree..
16:44 < [anders]> (rather, I had ROCKCFG_MAKE_JOBS set to 2)
16:45 < clifford> you are talking about 1.5 ??
16:45 < thaly^rock_menu> clifford: how do you mean ... about it ... ? I dunno whose guilty it is
16:45 < [anders]> clifford: da
16:45 < clifford> no idea. I've not touched the 1.5 tree for 8 months now.
16:46 < [anders]> clifford: no, but you know how the flist wrapper works.. I don't... :)
16:46 < [anders]> the flist wrapper kicks in when you do the make install phase, right?
16:47 < clifford> no. the flist wrapper monitors all file i/o of the whole package build process - including the make install phase.
16:47 < [anders]> how does the flist wrapper determine what files should go into the package?
16:48 < clifford> are only some files missing in your flist files?
16:48 < clifford> .. or all except the one from /var/adm ..
16:48 < [anders]> clifford: yes.. for example the vim package was missing usr/bin/vim
16:49 < clifford> every file which is created (or modified) by the build process goes to the package flist file.
16:49 < [anders]> clifford: the ncurses package only had the files for var/adm in it, but vim package had symlink as well.
16:50 < clifford> [anders]: I don't even have a current 1.5 source tree here to trace the problem.
16:50 < clifford> I don't think it's a problem with the flist wrapper itself.
16:51 < clifford> It might be a problem with the way the flist wrapper is configured or how the files created by the flist wrapper are parsed.
16:51 < clifford> but it's huebis job to debug and fix the 1.5 tree ...
16:51 < [anders]> yes.. I perhaps should experiment with this and only build stages 1+2 and try and find packages that fail regularly..
16:52 < [anders]> once I know packages which would fail often with make -j2, I can try and track down why they fail..
16:52 < thaly^rock_menu> huh, I everything works, but when i go out of the menu, i'll get a SEGV ... hrrrrrrmpf
16:53 < [anders]> I was just wondering if there could be something with make install and the flist-wrapper missing some files being installed when -jN for N>1 is used..
17:02 -!- thaly^rock_menu [~tobrit@pD958D441.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos")
17:06 -!- chrisime is now known as chris|AFK
17:15 -!- clifford [~clifford@M090P012.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
17:16 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p50813077.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
17:16 < thalerim> re
17:17 < Mike1> re thalerim
17:18 -!- term_emu [~pm@pD9E33556.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection)
17:28 < d3mian> re
17:29 < Mike1> re d3mian
17:29 < thalerim> *g* Mike1 ...
17:30 < Mike1> thalerim: ?
17:30 < thalerim> i think you're waiting for a talk ... but i must dissapoint you, everyone is busy ;-P
17:30 < thalerim> -s+p
17:30 < Mike1> thalerim: actually i am nt i am busy too, but i like to say ho my friends
17:31 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@212.116.24.1] has quit ("leaving")
17:31 < Mike1> thalerim: /me is currently working on adding featured to rock-1.5.18-Gnome2 tree
17:32 < thalerim> Mike1: actually i've thought you got free days and you're spending your time with your familiy
17:33 < Mike1> thalerim: i rest from work but not from coding :)
17:33 < Mike1> i spent time with them yesterday :)
17:35 < thalerim> ok, ic
17:37 < d3mian> Mike1: already finished rock-spanish guide!
17:37 < d3mian> Mike1: should i send u that throught rsync ?
17:38 < Mike1> d3mian: yes please
17:38 < d3mian> k
17:38 < Mike1> d3mian: you edited the .tex files right?
17:38 < Mike1> not the .html or .txt file?
17:39 < d3mian> tex
17:39 < d3mian> besides.. i did make to build html and txt too
17:39 < Mike1> good
17:39 < Mike1> nice
17:39 < Mike1> rsync please
17:39 < d3mian> mom
17:41 < Freak> <[anders]> Freak: sorry about the ISO... the page does say though it was untested.. :-/ -- I was just kidding, it's okay :)
17:42 < thalerim> okay guys ... I am almost ready with the higlight pkg info for the install menu ... but now i prepare to go out to the "Jahrmarkt" (festival)
17:44 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
17:49 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@dhcp024-210-222-139.woh.rr.com] has quit ("Hoho needs no reason!")
17:52 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("snyke has no reason")
17:53 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p50813077.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos")
17:54 * fake Front 242 - Headhunter
18:00 < fake> hm.... hz is gcc2 built in stage12 if it is not used?
18:00 < fake> why
18:00 < fake> should be built in stage3 then, if i am not mistaken
18:03 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@dhcp024-210-222-139.woh.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux
18:57 < fake> and finally gcc3 can build itself
19:04 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B590e.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux
19:04 < owl> hi
19:05 < [anders]> moin owl
19:05 < owl> hi [anders]
19:05 < [anders]> <- going afk.. build in stage 3 on qt. still at work, gettin rather fed up with late work on fridays..
19:33 < fake> weee!
19:34 < fake> i'm in stage 3 and only one package didn't build!
19:34 < fake> (using gcc 3.2 and newest binutils)
19:34 < fake> and only gcc 3.2
19:35 < fake> and just iproute2 failed
19:35 -!- owl is now known as _NULL
19:39 < huebi> owl struggled on using a coffee machine.
19:40 < _NULL> huebi: wuah! no coffee. just for one person. and this person will get coffee && poison
19:41 < fake> me?
19:41 < fake> me me me!
19:41 < _NULL> fake: yes. here is coffee && poison!!!
19:41 < Mike1> _NULL: will that coffee kill?
19:41 < huebi> fake: kool that now allmost all pkgs build
19:41 < fake> *slurp* hm... nice... it misses some arsenic oxide... but not bad
19:42 < _NULL> Mike1: yes
19:42 < Mike1> hi _NULL BTW
19:42 < _NULL> hi Mike1
19:42 < Mike1> _NULL: gimme some coffy too please
19:42 < _NULL> Mike1: no
19:42 < d3mian> costa rica.. strong and powerful coffee ;-)
19:43 < fake> germany... strong and powerful men
19:43 < fake> ;((
19:43 < Mike1> _NULL's laptop PINK and Strong too
19:43 < fake> err
19:43 < fake> :)
19:44 < fake> <- is neither
19:44 < _NULL> Mike1: no, my new notebook will be black. black, black and finally black!
19:44 < fake> dark pink ist NOT black, owl
19:44 -!- theogenis [~tobrit@p50813125.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
19:44 < theogenis> re
19:44 < _NULL> fake: not pink°!!!!
19:44 < fake> ree
19:44 < fake> yes yes
19:45 < _NULL> but might i should better run to the next army shop and buy a gun...
19:45 < theogenis> hey huebi
19:45 < _NULL> and kill myself
19:45 < Freak> mmhh..
19:46 < fake> _NULL: bad investion, that gun
19:46 < theogenis> huebi: are you present? need youuuuuu
19:46 < Mike1> _NULL: if you kill yourslef can i have ur black laptop?
19:46 < fake> for only one use...
19:46 < _NULL> fake: why?
19:46 < theogenis> hey Freak ... does your system run well?
19:46 < _NULL> Mike1: no, you can't.
19:46 < Freak> theogenis?
19:46 < huebi> theogenis: jo
19:47 < _NULL> fake: one use - but ended fscking life. so --> everything's well
19:47 < theogenis> Freak: me is thale
19:47 < Freak> does yours?
19:47 < theogenis> huebi: okay ... the higlighting works now, but you said you wish another keybinding, what did you imagine?
19:48 < theogenis> Freak: i mean ... was the re-installation successfull?
19:48 < Freak> theogenis: so mine did not at all.. uhm.. like.. well.. I blame myself for having been unable to get it running
19:48 < Freak> no .. _you_ told me to throw away the cd
19:48 < Mike1> hi huebi
19:49 < theogenis> you're right *g* sorry ... i was spending my attention to the rock menu ;) ... i must admit *g*
19:49 < Freak> mmhh..
19:49 < Freak> rolla: did you get the cd installed?
19:51 < theogenis> huebi?
19:52 < fake> _NULL if you use it only once, why not lend it?
19:53 < _NULL> fake: because no other person has a reason to kill him/her/itself
19:53 < fake> o_O
19:54 < Freak> does anyone at all?!
19:54 < Mike1> _NULL: dont you ever get tired of playing that game?
19:54 < fake> *applauds*
19:54 < _NULL> _NULL: what game? life? yes!!! i'm really tired about it!
19:55 * fake stomps the "child"-stamp on _NULL's head
19:55 < _NULL> fake: not "child"stamp. depressed_since_years-stamp!!!
19:56 < fake> no. child.
19:56 < _NULL> fake: no!
19:56 < fake> it says in capital letters: "C H I L D"
19:56 < Freak> _NULL: yea.. like.. grow up .. and stuff
19:56 < d3mian> cu latar
19:56 < _NULL> fake: bla. shut up!
19:57 < theogenis> i-need-a-psychater-but-i-haven't-recognized-it-so-far
19:57 < fake> YOU tell ME to shut up?
19:57 < _NULL> fake: yes
19:57 < huebi> theogenis: I mean a keybinding like 'make menuconfig' in the kernel uses
19:57 < d3mian> those guys will start a fight righ here
19:57 < Mike1> _NULL: you are just a little child whit low self steam because dady wont buy you a new PINK laptop
19:57 < fake> so why the FSCK should i listen to you?
19:57 < _NULL> ./ignore whole channel
19:57 * d3mian away
19:58 < fake> _NULL: that's called /leave
19:58 < theogenis> huebi: yes you said it already - but i dunno about them, huh?
19:58 < Mike1> _NULL: you dont even know what life if so quit telling that bull sh#t
19:58 < _NULL> fake: no!
19:58 < theogenis> huebi: listen, i imagine the following:
19:59 < fake> well, get me the "little child" stamp
19:59 < Mike1> fake: anyways nice joke a women trying to shut up a men
19:59 < _NULL> Mike1: i know enough about life!
19:59 < Mike1> _NULL: you know nothing about life
19:59 < d3mian> none knows enough, be sure of that _NULL
19:59 < theogenis> in the pkg selector you get with '?' or 'h' the help message, with the space you get the pkg information, and with enter you mark it as "to install", respectively "not to install" - do you agree with this?
19:59 < _NULL> Mike1: it's not a joke, it's the only correct way!
20:00 < theogenis> Mike1: *g* she set me on ignore yesterday :->
20:00 < Mike1> _NULL: everyone here has got sh#it from life, but "prettending" to be miss depresed and miss nothing to call others attention, thats pathetic
20:00 < Mike1> theogenis: hehe
20:01 < Mike1> _NULL: anyways discussing with you is a waste of time, your ego is big that you wouldnt listen to anyone
20:01 * Mike1 away for lunch
20:01 < fake> Mike1: ACK.
20:01 < d3mian> i dunt agree with u guys
20:01 < d3mian> u are now part of the shit mike said
20:02 < Mike1> d3mian: ?
20:02 < theogenis> mahlzeit! @Mike1
20:02 < d3mian> well, cya.. it's late around here
20:03 < huebi> theogenis: I'll test it. When I have some suggestions for you I'll tell you.
20:03 -!- d3mian is now known as [mephisto]
20:05 < theogenis> huebi: okay ... I'll take a look at the current keybindings to modify if necessary - will give you a url hwere to download the diffs
20:05 < huebi> theogenis: ACK
20:10 < huebi> theogenis: Just post the URL here in the chan.
20:11 < theogenis> yup, i must burn a CD and want to eat something before
20:11 < fake> *spam*
20:11 < fake> Error logs from build/default-1.7.0-DEV-ia32-pentium3-generic-expert/root/var/adm/logs:
20:11 < fake> [1] base/iproute2
20:11 < fake> 979 builds total, 81 completed fine, 1 with errors.
20:11 < fake> hehe
20:20 * fake is off now - re-translocating 80kms
20:23 < fake> *wink*
20:45 -!- tobrit [~tobrit@p50813CC6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
20:49 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1C838.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
20:49 < bluefire> Gudnabend
20:50 < _NULL> hi bluefire
21:02 -!- theogenis [~tobrit@p50813125.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
21:33 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD95255B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
21:33 < tsa> tag.
21:34 < tsa> *gaehn*
21:35 < Mike1> hi tsa
21:36 < blindcoder> g'evening everyone
21:36 < blindcoder> I'm now off to my vacation, see you September!
21:36 < Mike1> blindcoder: have fun
21:37 < tsa> hi Mike1
21:37 < Mike1> enjoy flying
21:37 < Mike1> :)
21:37 < tsa> hi blindcoder
21:37 < blindcoder> thanks, I will :)
21:37 < tsa> vacation...
21:37 < blindcoder> I'll be going by car
21:37 < tsa> *sigh*
21:37 < Mike1> blindcoder: i an sure you will
21:37 < tsa> i could really need that, too..
21:37 < blindcoder> and I take esden with me *MMUAHAHA*
21:37 < Mike1> blindcoder: :( oh
21:37 < tsa> hehe... have fun, then.
21:37 < tsa> ;)
21:38 < Mike1> blindcoder: lol ok
21:38 < blindcoder> thanks, I'll make sure esden gets enough torturing :)
21:38 < _NULL> hi tsa, hi blindcoder
21:39 < tsa> hi _NULL
21:39 < blindcoder> okay then, c ya and stay ROCKed :)
21:39 -!- blindcoder [crash@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("leaving")
21:48 -!- tobrit__ [~tobrit@pD9E490B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
21:48 < tobrit__> re
21:48 < _NULL> re tobrit__
21:50 -!- tobrit__ is now known as theogen^tv
21:50 < theogen^tv> huebi: okay ... i did upload them
21:51 < theogen^tv> https://freebits.de/trash/sonstiges/patches/install_menu/
21:52 < huebi> theogen^tv: dnakoe!
21:53 < tsa> dnakoe?
21:53 < tsa> nich schlecht..
21:53 < huebi> ___________________
21:53 < huebi> < Dankoe, Thalerim. >
21:53 < huebi> -------------------
21:53 < huebi> \ ^__^
21:53 < huebi> \ (oo)\_______
21:53 < huebi> (__)\ )\/\
21:53 < huebi> ||----w |
21:53 < huebi> || ||
21:53 < huebi>
21:54 < theogen^tv> Oh Dear Maaaaathilda ...
21:54 < fronti> ;)
21:54 < tsa> *bow*
21:54 < theogen^tv> hehe huebi ... wait till you tried it out
21:56 < huebi> _______________________________________
21:56 < huebi> I will let huebi test the new install \
21:56 < huebi> \ menu. /
21:56 < huebi> ---------------------------------------
21:56 < huebi> \ ^__^
21:56 < huebi> \ (oo)\_______
21:56 < huebi> (__)\ )\/\
21:56 < huebi> ||----w |
21:56 < huebi> || ||
21:56 < huebi>
21:57 * Mike1 wonders if huebi tested rock-1.5.18-Gnome2 tree
21:58 < theogen^tv> not new ... just updated :-D ... but i am not finished! must fix one thick bug
21:58 < huebi> Mike1: I didn't
21:58 < huebi> theogen^tv: ook, do it please.
21:58 < Mike1> huebi: ok
21:58 * huebi copied about 500 divx movies in the last days
22:00 < theogen^tv> huebi: you must test it in the console
22:00 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A5C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux
22:01 < theogen^tv> and, well, to see the real colors, in one without the amtrix patch
22:01 < theogen^tv> esden?
22:01 < huebi> theogen^tv: I wanted to test it in a real installation
22:01 < theogen^tv> huebi: mh, when?
22:02 -!- tobrit [~tobrit@p50813CC6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
22:02 < huebi> tomorrow
22:04 < theogen^tv> ok.
22:04 < theogen^tv> esden!
22:04 < theogen^tv> esden should test it and creates some snapshots
22:08 < tsa> _NULL: coffee!
22:08 < _NULL> no
22:09 < tsa> yes.
22:09 < tsa> sure.
22:09 < _NULL> never
22:12 < theogen^tv> esden...!
22:13 -!- tsa_ [~tsa@pD9E1180D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
22:13 < tsa_> *grrrmpf*
22:13 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD95255B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: tsa_!~tsa@pD9E1180D.dip.t-dialin.net)))
22:13 -!- tsa_ is now known as tsa
22:14 < esden> hi all
22:14 < esden> theogen^tv: ???
22:15 < _NULL> hi esden
22:15 < esden> hi owl
22:15 < tsa> huhu esden
22:15 < theogen^tv> esden: !!!
22:15 < esden> hi tesla ;-)
22:15 < theogen^tv> https://freebits.de/trash/sonstiges/patches/install_menu/ <-
22:15 * -> esden running for the install_menu
22:15 < theogen^tv> please make a screenshot of the graphical pkg information
22:16 < theogen^tv> esp for huebi
22:17 * -> esden on it
22:18 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-275.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux
22:18 < plfiorini> hi
22:18 < Mike1> ciao plfiorini
22:18 -!- theogen^tv is now known as theogenis
22:18 < plfiorini> Mike1: do you know the plan for the package format?
22:18 < esden> hi plfiorini
22:18 < plfiorini> hi esden
22:19 < tsa> hi plfiorini
22:19 < plfiorini> hi tsa
22:19 < plfiorini> and of course Mike1
22:19 < esden> there is a file in 1.7 about the new format @ plfiorini
22:19 < theogenis> plfiorini: cliiford gave a url
22:19 < esden> moment I take a look
22:19 < plfiorini> esden: ok thanks
22:19 < Mike1> plfiorini: you mean GEM Mine? yes i do know i
22:19 < Mike1> it*
22:19 -!- WKaibigan [~nick@ACB4AD31.ipt.aol.com] has joined #rocklinux
22:19 < plfiorini> grr Build-Tar: No such package: ogg-vorbis
22:20 < esden> plfiorini: https://www.rocklinux.org/sources/Documentation/Developers/GEM-MINE=
22:20 < esden> ups
22:20 < esden> plfiorini: https://www.rocklinux.org/sources/Documentation/Developers/GEM-MINE
22:20 < plfiorini> Mike1: i dunno :O
22:20 < plfiorini> esden: thanks
22:20 < esden> plfiorini: you are welcome
22:20 < theogenis> *esden piecks*
22:20 * plfiorini has done elinks package ;)
22:21 < plfiorini> and other cool packages ;)
22:21 < Mike1> plfiorini: We finally got Gnome2 to build 100% on rock-1.5.18-Gnome2
22:21 < plfiorini> Mike1: hehhe [anders] told me
22:21 < Mike1> iso in a few more hours
22:21 < plfiorini> Mike1: i have finished building of my packages
22:22 < Mike1> yes but his iso was missing files
22:22 < plfiorini> Mike1: are derived to yours, but w/my patches
22:22 < theogenis> his ISO was crap
22:22 < theogenis> *g*
22:22 < plfiorini> Mike1: are all devfs patches
22:22 < Mike1> theogenis: guess some packages got corrupted
22:22 < Mike1> anyways it was attempt 1 to get it to work
22:22 < plfiorini> Mike1: i have also my devfs package with my configuration
22:22 < Mike1> i havent test mine
22:23 < plfiorini> Mike1: i have also acme package, with a devfs patch ;)
22:23 < theogenis> Mike1: i know the problem ... just kidding ;)
22:23 < Mike1> theogenis: anyways hopefully you could help us and sent us patches and reports :))
22:24 < plfiorini> gem seems to be c00l
22:24 < plfiorini> yeah
22:25 < theogenis> Mike1: you got me wrong ... i know of the problem, because I was helping Freak who encountered to the problem - [anders] talked with clifford about it, he shozuld know the most recent information about this odd thing
22:25 < theogenis> esden?
22:26 < Mike1> theogenis: i know that as well dont worry
22:26 < Mike1> theogenis: what i ment is all help is very welcome :)
22:27 < theogenis> of course, but as you know, i am currently on the install menu
22:27 < plfiorini> esden: i think allowing packages split would be good
22:28 * Mike1 wonders if theogenis would to contribute on the ROCK Multi Language Project
22:29 < theogenis> we spoke about it yesterday ...
22:29 < Mike1> yeah :)
22:29 * Mike1 likes to effor on getting people on the project :)
22:31 < theogenis> Mike1: if i am honest, I would prefer an exactly and up-to-date documentation in English to any muilti language project
22:32 < theogenis> what i mean is you guys should create a good base before thinking about translating, IMHO
22:32 < esden> theogenis: https://www.esden.net/desktops/shots/menu_console_6.png
22:32 < esden> puhh
22:33 < theogenis> huebi: it's yours
22:33 < esden> plfiorini: it has its advantages ... but it would be aganist the philosophy of rock
22:33 < huebi> owl = Cappuccinokiller
22:34 < esden> plfiorini: we do not change the packages ... and if we thange them then only the really nessesery things ...
22:34 < theogenis> urgs
22:34 < tsa> huebi: did someone show her how to make coffee in vienna?
22:34 < theogenis> i forgot Original Atuhor(s) to highligjt
22:34 < theogenis> highlight
22:34 < _NULL> huebi: aeh?
22:34 < plfiorini> esden: i can understand
22:35 * -> esden watching after his pizza
22:35 * -> esden back
22:35 < huebi> theogenis: looks good
22:35 < esden> it needs some more time
22:36 < esden> argh ... here is no music that sux ... /me wants iris to be here ;-)
22:42 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-275.tin.it] has quit ("bbiab")
22:45 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-275.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux
22:45 * -> esden away abusing pizza
22:46 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A5C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("°ShowDowN v12 PrO° since 1996: https://www.sci.fi/~showdown/")
22:47 < plfiorini> re
22:48 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A5C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux
22:51 < tsa> FUNDRAISING added to ignore list.
22:51 < tsa> *narf*
22:51 < theogenis> omg
22:51 < theogenis> it's absolutely disturbing
22:55 < tsa> ack
23:00 -!- WKaibigan [~nick@ACB4AD31.ipt.aol.com] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
23:04 -!- WKaibigan2 [~Aloicious@ACB4AD31.ipt.aol.com] has joined #rocklinux
23:27 -!- chrisime_ [~chrisime@p50803639.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
23:30 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has joined #rocklinux
23:30 < _NULL> hi holyolli
23:31 < holyolli> hi
23:31 < holyolli> hi _NULL
23:32 < tsa> OLLLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!
23:32 < holyolli> TSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
23:32 < tsa> JAJAJAJA!
23:32 < tsa> Sex?
23:32 < holyolli> deine capslock-taste klemmt
23:32 < theogenis> der bub bekommt gleich 'n orgasmus ?
23:32 < holyolli> immer doch
23:32 < tsa> fein
23:33 < holyolli> theogenis: wer? tsa?
23:33 < theogenis> ja *gg*
23:33 < holyolli> tsa ist kein zu-früh-kommer...
23:33 < holyolli> (meistens kommt er zu spät zur arbeit ;-)
23:33 < theogenis> du mußt es ja wissen, ob er zu früh kommt *fg*
23:34 < tsa> holyolli: huh?
23:34 * tsa war heute rechtzeitig da..und du? :-P
23:34 < holyolli> ich war auch zur richtigen zeit da.
23:35 < holyolli> genau so, um mit dem frühstück zu beginnen...
23:35 < holyolli> ARGS!
23:35 < tsa> um 12?
23:35 < tsa> hm..
23:35 < holyolli> auf www.wetter.de is auch mal wieder volksverdummung angesagt...
23:35 < holyolli> <zitat>
23:35 < holyolli> Abstimmen!
23:35 < holyolli> Dieser Sommer ...
23:35 < holyolli> macht mich fertig!
23:35 < holyolli> ist nicht normal!
23:35 < holyolli> ist echt krass, eh!
23:35 < holyolli> Ich finde ihn gut!
23:35 < holyolli> </zitat>
23:35 < tsa> hehe
23:36 < holyolli> für wie blöd halten die die leute...?!?
23:36 < _NULL> *ggg* suess...
23:36 < tsa> holyolli: das ist doch erst der Anfang..
23:36 < theogenis> hast du krasses problem mit diesen sache?
23:36 < _NULL> holyolli: fuer so intelligent, wie 80 % der bevoelkerung wirklich sind
23:36 < tsa> holyolli: demnaechst gibt's da nen Onlineshop fuer Sonne..
23:36 * theogenis is listening to Weird Al - Windows95 sucks
23:37 < holyolli> *lol* da gibts ne wetterwette....armes deutschland
23:38 < holyolli> toll. allen scheiss da drin....und der flugwetterbericht habense rausgeschmissen... NARF!
23:38 < _NULL> holyolli: das wetter wird morgen: schlecht, schlechter, ganz schlecht? stimmen sie ab! wildcards erlaubt!
23:38 < tsa> .*
23:38 < holyolli> hehe
23:43 -!- chris|AFK [~chrisime@pD9590AD9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Connection timed out)
23:49 < esden> re hi all
23:49 < _NULL> hi esden
23:49 < Mike1> hi esden
23:49 < holyolli> hi esden
23:49 < theogenis> o_o
23:50 < tsa> re esden
23:51 < Mike1> tsa: que haces?
23:52 < tsa> Mike1: trabajando, como siempre..
23:52 < holyolli> buenas tardes, Mike1 ;-)
23:52 < Mike1> buenas Capitan holyolli :)
23:53 < tsa> capitan?
23:53 < holyolli> *g* this will still take a long time to be cpt... ;)
23:53 < tsa> uh...mejor que no..
23:53 < Mike1> tsa: vendras a la reunion en costa rica el otro ano?
23:53 < tsa> ;)
23:53 < Mike1> tsa: holyolli piloteara aviones
23:53 < tsa> Mike1: creo que si.
23:53 < Mike1> tsa: genial
23:53 < tsa> Mike1: si, ya lo se. y tengo miedo.
23:54 < Mike1> tsa: holyolli es gracioso yo deje de volar por meterme en computer science, holyolli dejo compuiter science para volar
23:54 < Mike1> tsa: de que tienes miedo? de atterrice en tu casa?
23:54 < holyolli> Mike1: si...muy "funny" ;)
23:54 < tsa> Mike1: hehe... holyolli ya me dijo
23:55 < Mike1> tsa: hehe bueno solo uds saben
23:55 < Mike1> holyolli: keep the secret ;)
23:55 < holyolli> hehe
23:55 < Mike1> btw holyolli tu vendras a CR tambien?
23:55 < tsa> Mike1: no. de holyolli en un avion.. ;)
23:56 < holyolli> Mike1: si.
23:56 < Mike1> tsa: ah si, creo que abra que hacer casa baja la tierra cuando vuele holyolli :)
23:56 < tsa> hahaha
23:57 < holyolli> no tan rápidamente, mi babelfish no puede traducir rápidamente.
23:57 < holyolli> ;-))
23:57 < Mike1> tsa: pero si se te quita el miedo podras volar gratis :P
23:57 < Mike1> holyolli: lo siento
--- Log closed Sat Aug 17 00:00:08 2002