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00:25 * owl hits her kernel now!
00:37 < chrisime> ja
00:37 < chrisime> ich hit dann au mal
00:37 < chrisime> wg. dem scheiss kernel kann i grad nix brennen
00:39 < owl> chrisime: wie schlimm. kannste dich glatt aus dem fenster stuerzen
00:40 < chrisime> ja
00:40 < chrisime> kann ich
00:40 < owl> chrisime: tja. dann mach es doch
00:40 < chrisime> aber weil mein prozzi so schnell is muss ich das net so schnell wie du tun
00:40 < chrisime> ;P
00:40 < chrisime> owl: kein bock
00:40 < owl> chrisime: was oder wer haelt dich davon ab?
00:40 < chrisime> hab besseres zu tun
00:40 < owl> chrisime: bla
00:41 < chrisime> du dumme nudel ;)
00:41 < chrisime> so mal sehen ob die kiste no bootet mit dem kern
00:41 < owl> chrisime: ich bin keine dumme nudel
00:42 < chrisime> dann halt nur nudel
00:42 < chrisime> so...das war der falsche kernel
00:42 < owl> chrisime: auch das nicht
00:42 < owl> chrisime: tja. woran das wohl liegt...
00:43 < chrisime> scho...
00:43 < tsa> n8
00:43 < holyolli> n8 tsa
00:43 < chrisime> owl: naja, an meiner super intelligenz liegst wohl net
00:43 < holyolli> <-- geht nu auch inne heia
00:43 < owl> n8 tsa
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00:43 < chrisime> eher das du mich ablenkst ;)
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00:44 < chrisime> shit
00:44 < owl> chrisime: jaja...
00:44 < owl> chrisime: unterlasse bitte die faekalsprache
00:44 < chrisime> ich hasse wenn der kernel panikt
00:44 < owl> chrisime: tja. was haste denn vergessen?
00:44 < owl> support fuer deine HD?
00:45 < chrisime> na sicher
00:45 < chrisime> natuerlich!
00:47 < chrisime> oh nee...der scheiss nervt
00:47 < chrisime> will nur was brennen
00:47 < owl> boah. du nervst!
00:47 < owl> ned der kernel!
00:48 < chrisime> owl: was los?
00:48 < chrisime> hast wieder schlechte laune
00:48 < chrisime> oder was geht so ab?
00:48 < chrisime> kann ich dir was helfen?
00:49 < owl> chrisime: a) nein, eigentlich nicht b) du nervst voll rum von wegen "bla. ich will was brennen. aber der kernel nervt. [bla]§" c) nein
00:49 < chrisime> kannst au was anderes als blah sagen
00:49 < chrisime> das dein lieblingswort?
00:50 < owl> chrisime: blafasel
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00:50 < d3mian> re
00:50 < chrisime> owl: was noch
00:50 < owl> chrisime: na immerhin nerve ich hier ned rum, weil ich was brennen mag
00:50 < chrisime> d3mian: ni dude, owl is now known as NULL
00:51 < chrisime> s/ni/hi
00:51 < owl> hi d3mian
00:51 < chrisime> owl: ich brenn dir gleich was ;)
00:51 < owl> chrisime: was denn? rocklinux 1.7er dev tree?
00:51 < chrisime> owl: pfff ;P
00:52 * chrisime kicks kernel
00:52 < chrisime> damn bullshit
00:52 < owl> chrisime: waaaaaaaaaaaas?
00:53 < chrisime> owl: hab net dich gfragt
00:53 < chrisime> :P
00:53 < owl> chrisime: dann gib halt ein /ignore owl
00:53 < chrisime> XFS: bad magic number (na sicher!)
00:53 < chrisime> owl: nee, ich find dich so lustig
00:54 < owl> chrisime: jaja. und die welt ist eine scheibe und heil
00:55 < chrisime> des teil hat recht
00:55 < chrisime> ich hab gar kein xfs auf debian
00:55 < chrisime> *gg*
00:56 < chrisime> owl: na du hast ne weltanschauung
00:56 < chrisime> im kindergarten net aufpasst *g* ?
00:56 < d3mian> chrisime: hi chris
00:56 < owl> chrisime: wie ist sie denn? aeh?
00:57 < chrisime> aeh? was aeh? kannst dich net richtig artikulieren?
00:58 < owl> chrisime: ich dachte du wuerdest aus dem kontext heraus verstehen, was ich meine
00:58 < chrisime> nein
00:58 < chrisime> babysprache versteh ich net
00:58 < chrisime> *renn*
00:58 < owl> chrisime: nochmal auf deutsch fuer dich: du solltest mir sagen, was du denn von meiner weltanschauung haeltst. bzw. wie du dir vorstellst, wie sie deiner bescheidenen meinung nach ist
00:59 < chrisime> haeh?
00:59 < owl> *lol* satz zu lang?
01:00 < chrisime> haeh?
01:02 < owl> chrisime: dein lieblingswort?
01:02 < chrisime> haeh?
01:02 < Freak> wenn ich zitieren darf: "aeh? was aeh? kannst dich net richtig artikulieren?"
01:02 < chrisime> aeh?
01:02 < Freak> soviel zu "haeh"
01:02 < Freak> >;P
01:02 < chrisime> *g*
01:03 < owl> Freak: danke :)
01:04 < chrisime> wow
01:04 < chrisime> endlich geht cdrecord
01:04 < chrisime> Freak: owl is today not known as NULL
01:04 < chrisime> einfach kewl
01:05 -!- owl is now known as _NULL
01:05 < _NULL> follow the NULL pointer
01:05 < chrisime> hmpf
01:05 < chrisime> das is net doll nun
01:07 < Freak> ich hab gelesen "das is net dot null"
01:07 < Freak> ...
01:08 < Freak> ich war auch eher damit beschäftigt, meinen kater zu streicheln..
01:09 < chrisime> brav ;)
01:09 < chrisime> hast n bild von dem vieh
01:09 * chrisime mag katzen
01:10 < _NULL> chrisime: du sollst sie ned essen. kannibalismus nicht gefragt
01:10 < chrisime> _NULL: na du bist pervers
01:10 < _NULL> chrisime: wenn du ein bild von der katze magst.
01:11 < _NULL> chrisime: und: nicht pervers, verrueckt.
01:12 < chrisime> bild von meiner katze is keine im netz
01:14 < chrisime> also, die is seit 3 jahren schon nicht mehr unter den lebenden
01:14 < chrisime> ;(
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01:17 < Freak> von meinem kater schon.
01:17 < Freak> aber .. wenn du ihn schon "vieh" nennst.. pfff.
01:17 < chrisime> hmmm
01:17 < chrisime> Freak: zeig troztdem
01:17 < _NULL> Freak: genau. das ist _wahre tierliebe_
01:27 < _NULL> gn8. cu
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01:48 < d3mian> cya
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03:02 < d3mian> who is Frank Zirkelbach ?
03:03 < d3mian> anyone awake? :p
03:17 * plfiorini is awake
03:17 < plfiorini> a bit full of beer, but awake :P
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04:29 < rolla_> anyone here know iptables real well ?
05:06 < rolla_> anyone alive ?
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06:14 < theturtle> anyone up?
06:15 < theturtle> is it possible to install rocklinux from a floppy thru ftp
06:15 < theturtle> no cd burner :(
07:51 < praenti> moin everybody
07:52 < praenti> huebi: here already or still slepping?
07:57 < huebi> moin
07:58 < huebi> praenti: Was geht ab?
08:00 < praenti> huebi: was muss ich machen, um eine neue extension reinzupflegen?
08:00 < praenti> hab jetzt schon mal im ext-config mkdir mysql-tools angelegt
08:00 < praenti> dann ext schreiben
08:00 < praenti> und dann weiß ich nicht mehr weiter
08:03 < huebi> mkdir mysql-tools
08:03 < huebi> cvs add mysql-tools
08:03 < huebi> cd mysql-tools
08:03 < huebi> cvs add mysql-tools.ext
08:03 < huebi> cd ..
08:04 < huebi> cvs ci
08:04 < huebi> So einfach geht das
08:05 < huebi> cvs ci -m "mysql-tools extension added" mysql-tools
08:08 < praenti> huebi: und wie läuft das dann mit den INDEX Files?
08:10 < huebi> ./scripts/Puzzle - und alles wird gut ;-)
08:11 < praenti> ok
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09:28 < [anders]> meeow...
09:29 * [anders] now installing a VMware session with 1.5.18-Gnome2....
09:29 < [anders]> (this'll be interesting...)
09:29 < huebi> moin [anders] ;-)
09:29 < huebi> [anders]: nice to see you.
09:30 < [anders]> huebi: and very good to see you too.. :)
09:30 < [anders]> huebi: I guess you are not floating away on a river at the moment?
09:31 < [anders]> scary when there is flooding like that.. :-/
09:31 < [anders]> good morning everybody
09:32 < huebi> [anders]: No, not at here it's about 270m above sealevel.
09:32 < huebi> +all.
09:33 < [anders]> huebi: so you are quite safe then. That is good to hear.. We don't want to loose the main rock maintainer.. :)
09:33 < huebi> [anders]: *g*
09:34 < [anders]> will start hacking on Evolution as soon as I get free time...
09:35 < [anders]> Just checking the ISO I made yesterday actually works..
09:35 < huebi> There is a nuclear power plant 20 km from here. But I'm living according to Ripclaw in the 2nd security zone.
09:35 < [anders]> huebi: sounds about right..
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09:37 < [anders]> huebi: if Mike, me and the others hackin on Gnome2 get it working, would you phase it in to the main tree?
09:37 < praenti> th: here?
09:38 < huebi> praenti: How did it work? mysql-tools?
09:39 < praenti> huebi: have a problem with the ext and need th
09:40 < praenti> huebi: i will put a new one in there. if -d /opt/apache-php -> install phpMyAdmin ;-)
09:40 < praenti> huebi: after that i ci it
09:41 < praenti> obwohl eigentlich kann ich auch jetzt schon weiter machen.
09:44 < huebi> YESS!
09:44 < huebi> *Jump*
09:45 < huebi> ftp://ftp.scyld.com/pub/diag/ether-wake.c <- It works!
09:45 < huebi> now I can switch on my computers at home remotely
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09:46 < huebi> And it's writen in C. Not an ugly (cgi-)script in Perl or Python, no webserver needed.
09:54 < [anders]> hmm.. now to compile a new kernel.... inside vmware...... (ouch!)
09:57 < huebi> [anders]: slooowww...
09:57 < [anders]> huebi: you don't say.... ;-)
09:57 < huebi> *g*
09:57 < [anders]> we really need to get ext3 enabled by default in the install kernel now.. :)
09:58 < huebi> [anders]: and xfs and jfs and reiserfs.
09:58 < huebi> [anders]: but first the ueberugly kernel configuration must work.
09:59 < [anders]> not too sure about jfs .. xfs and reiserfs perhaps, but etx3 is just an extension to ext2 and should be no big problem to get working..
09:59 < huebi> [anders]: Only a problem of the design of the boot cd
10:01 < [anders]> not really, if the driver for ext3 is there, you can mount ext3 fs.. I could create it ext3 (mke2fs -j) but only mount it as ext2..
10:01 < huebi> xfs is the only well working journaled fs. reiserfs is not usable at all only because of the data distroying tools for it.
10:02 < [anders]> does xfs behave well together with lvm? i.e. can you grow and shrink filesystems on the fly with it?
10:02 < huebi> ext3 work well, too. But it's not as fast as xfs
10:03 < huebi> just grow, but this information is a few months old.
10:03 < [anders]> hmm.. perhaps I should try out xfs then.. ReiserFS has been serving me well for years now..
10:04 < huebi> The only problem I had was xfs on top of a sw raid0 over 4 80GB disks at one fasttrack controller.
10:05 < huebi> Stoped to work after 30 to 40 GB have been writen in one chunk.
10:05 < huebi> I think it's more a fault of the IDE stuff.
10:07 < [anders]> huebi: the IDE layer needs a damn good rework, and so does the SCSI layer..
10:12 < praenti> huebi: now it is in. looks like i is successfully commited
10:13 < praenti> huebi: now th must enable in apache-php the .php extension
10:17 < [anders]> right.. /me has installed the vmware tools, I have X running, gnome2 desktop, the ISO works for me.. if anyone wants it:
10:17 < [anders]> https://62.3.122.161:8080/
10:17 < [anders]> it's the 1.5.18-Gnome2 one.. ;-)
10:18 < [anders]> there is of course the KDE env on there as well, so it'll still work... the ISO is about 560MB..
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10:58 < huebi> re
10:58 < [anders]> meow
10:58 * huebi was playing with wake on lan
10:58 < [anders]> heh
10:59 * [anders] has finished playing with VMware and ROCK 1.5.18-Gnome2.. AFAICT it is working..
10:59 < huebi> The Tyan Tiger S2460 has some more bugs than I thought. WOL does not work.
11:00 < [anders]> I still do not understand why some packages would end up missing large amounts of files if stage 5 was left out..
11:00 < huebi> KDE 3.1 Beta1 is out
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11:46 < huebi> brb. Next WOL test
11:50 < huebi> hmm. Does not work...
12:26 < th> re
12:26 < th> praenti: ack
12:29 < huebi> th: Na, was macht das Wasser?
12:31 < th> naja noch weicht es die deiche ein.
12:31 < th> ostelbische teile von magdeburg stehen richtig im wasser
12:32 < th> viel schlimmer sind die umliegenden doerfer.
12:32 < th> da ist es wirklich schlimm
12:32 < th> magdeburg selbst hat nicht sehr viel abbekommen
12:32 < huebi> Na hoffendlich wird es nicht noch schlimmer.
12:32 < th> scheitelpunkt is schon erreicht
12:33 < th> yeah eastlink hat unsere standleitung wieder angeklemmt
12:33 < th> ich kann meine ssh-tunnel und smtp-routen wieder deaktivieren
12:34 < praenti> th: wohnst du da in der nähe?
12:35 < th> praenti: ich wohne in magdeburg
12:36 < praenti> th: habt ihr erstaunliches glück gehabt oder war bei euch das krisenmanagement besser?
12:36 < praenti> ich hab das bei uns an der donau mitbekommen. uns ahts doch pfingsten 99 mal so beschissen erwischt. und unsere katastropenmanager haben da eineiges gelernt.
12:37 < praenti> diesmal waren sie vorbereitet, aber dann war am schluss gar nix schlimmes...
12:37 < th> praenti: die organisation war teilweise katastrophal. aber der entscheidende punkt ist, dass wir mehr zeit hatte
12:37 < th> n
12:39 < praenti> ich kapier langsam echt nicht mehr, warum erst immer was passieren muss, bevor gehandelt wird. naja lass ma des thema
12:39 < th> ja
12:40 < huebi> Menschen sind faul und dumm.
12:40 < th> aber sehr solidarisch
12:41 < huebi> Nur wenn sie persoenlich nichts mehr dazu gewinnen koennen
12:42 < th> ich meine in solchen notsituationen
12:42 < huebi> th: da koennen sie auch nicht mehr gewinnen, wenn sie ihrem Egoismus froehnen
12:42 < th> genau
12:44 < huebi> Das Hochwasser ist endlich mal ein wircklich wichtiges, existentielles Problem fuer _alle_
12:44 < huebi> -c
12:45 < th> ja. zum glueck mussten nicht erst die aliens kommen
12:45 < huebi> *g*
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13:54 < holyolli> moin
13:57 < huebi> hi holyolli
13:57 < holyolli> huhu huebi
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14:10 < bluefire> Moin
14:12 < holyolli> moin bluefire
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14:34 < thalerim> moin all
14:35 < holyolli> hi thalerim
14:36 < thalerim> *g*
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14:37 < thal^hw> args, verschrieben
14:41 < holyolli> *lol
14:41 < holyolli> *
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14:50 < huebi> *LOOOL*
15:00 < holyolli> mh?
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15:03 < huebi> 14:37 < thal^hw> args, verschrieben
15:03 < huebi> hehe
15:03 < huebi> peinlich
15:03 < huebi> thal^hw: Mit wem denn?
15:10 < th> und vor allem wofuer steht das hw jetzt
15:16 < thal^hw> homework
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15:16 < th> naja
15:16 < th> homework kann man auch vielseitig interpretieren
15:17 < thalerim> *gg*
15:17 * thalerim is lsitening to Subway to Sally - Der Stecher
15:17 < thalerim> :->
15:23 < rolla_> anyone here a iptables guy/girl ?
15:31 < [anders]> rolla_: uhm.. I'll try..
15:32 < [anders]> rolla_: what are you trying to do?
15:36 < rolla_> I have this problem with MASQUERADE in iptables
15:36 < rolla_> When I set it up all my internal machines can get out to the internet aswell as my router
15:36 < rolla_> but my router cannot get any internal machines
15:37 < [anders]> ok, so you have all the rules done...
15:37 < rolla_> I belive so
15:37 < [anders]> have you done 'echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward' ?
15:38 < rolla_> yes
15:39 < thalerim> haha, damnit dtelekom will increase the prices for dsl ...
15:39 < [anders]> humma..
15:39 < huebi> thalerim: Change the provider or pay. :P
15:39 < thalerim> and limiting in volumes as well
15:40 < rolla_> yeah I mean it is odd since all machine on theinternal network can get out
15:40 < thalerim> huebi: well, i have a one year contract ... i don't believe they're allowed to increase the price in this period.
15:41 < [anders]> rolla_: uhm, masquerading is a 'one-way' thing..
15:41 < [anders]> -ish
15:42 < rolla_> yes but I just want the router wich has nic on both nets to be able to get to the internal side
15:42 < thalerim> so i will be surfing with the current prices till februar or march 2003, i think i will annul it to go to qdsl.
15:42 < thalerim> +then
15:42 < rolla_> it is not if I want to get from internet to my internal machines
15:43 < [anders]> rolla_: hmm.. do you have a route for the internal network in the routing table on the router?
15:45 * thalerim is listening to Eisregen - Deutschland in Flammen
15:45 < huebi> rolla_: This is my masquerading rule on my router:
15:45 < huebi> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
15:50 < rolla_> yeah that is what I ahve
15:51 < rolla_> I get operatoin not allowed ? when I try to ping
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15:52 < rolla_> I am but ready to remove the whole install of drock and go for straight rock
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15:53 < rolla_> huebi: is that on a machine with a eth0 and eth1 right
15:59 < huebi> rolla_: yes. ppp0=eth1
15:59 < rolla_> okay
15:59 < rolla_> what does your router tabel look like ?
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16:01 < huebi> rolla_: There is no other rule activated.
16:02 < rolla_> not router I mean route
16:04 < huebi> ah ok. mom
16:04 < huebi> root@ella:~# netstat -rn
16:04 < huebi> Kernel IP routing table
16:04 < huebi> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface
16:04 < huebi> 217.5.98.17 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 40 0 0 ppp0
16:05 < huebi> 192.168.100.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 40 0 0 eth0
16:05 < huebi> 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 40 0 0 lo
16:05 < huebi> 0.0.0.0 217.5.98.17 0.0.0.0 UG 40 0 0 ppp0
16:05 < huebi> oot@ella:~# ifconfig ppp0
16:05 < huebi> ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
16:05 < huebi> inet addr:217.225.194.207 P-t-P:217.5.98.17 Mask:255.255.255.255
16:05 < rolla_> hmm
16:06 < rolla_> odd my stuff should work then :(
16:06 * rolla_ really hatess iptables
16:17 < [anders]> rolla_: add log rules to the end of all chains and look where things are going..
16:31 < rolla_> okay thanks
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17:00 < huebi> hi SMP
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17:04 < SMP> *grmbl*
17:04 < angel|of|chaos> hm?
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18:19 < d3mian> re
18:23 * d3mian updating some undefined patches and submits for packages
18:23 * d3mian and also some failed and successfull logs :|
18:24 * d3mian meanwhile is CVSing sources too
18:25 < d3mian> cya
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19:03 < awacs> hi i've got some trouble installing rocklinux on my laptop can anyone help me ?
19:04 < awacs> i get a system hangup when it tries to get my fdc
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19:07 < rxr_> re
19:09 < awacs> hello ? anyone here ?
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19:13 < owl> hi
19:14 < awacs> hi
19:14 < owl> hi awacs
19:15 < awacs> i get a system hangup when the rocklnx disc discovers my fdc ? can force I fdc detection ?
19:17 < huebi> awacs: which version? fdc?
19:17 < awacs> the latest stable must be 1.4, fdc = floppy disc controller, he says fdc is a post 1991 an the the machine hangsup
19:20 < awacs> any suggestions ?
19:21 < rxr> huebi: you suck .
19:21 < rxr> I'll not do any 1.5 work in my free time anymore <DOT>
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19:21 < huebi> rxr: whats your problem?
19:23 < huebi> rxr: Obviously you don't test your patches. So you should even not do anythink on 1.5
19:24 < huebi> rxr: Your code _might_ be brilliant but it's not usable for others.
19:26 < huebi> awacs: I don't know how to disable the floppy while booting. That should help.
19:28 < huebi> rxr: Why do you delete my comments and echos?
19:28 < huebi> rxr: Why does sparc64 not work anymore?
19:29 < huebi> why don't you do your promised work not in time?
19:30 < huebi> rxr: why don't you answer? I think because I'm fully right with what I say.
19:31 < awacs> thanks this time
19:31 < awacs> bye
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19:33 < huebi> /ignore rxr
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19:43 < rxr> I'll ignore you ...
19:44 < rxr> promissed work not in time ??????????
19:44 < rxr> do you suck with your eyes open ??????
19:45 < rxr> I also have a private live - and I simply had no time before my holiday ......#
19:45 < rxr> AND: I already do dRock and 1.7 - your 1.5 playground is not in any way my work ...
19:46 < rxr> I have a stable 1.5 for half an year now - it is named dRock ...
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19:49 < owl> hi zer0_o
19:49 < zer0_o> hi =)
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19:59 < owl> hi snyke
20:01 < rxr> huebi: btw: I did not answered because I was bying foods in the city ...
20:02 < rxr> and I was away the last two days - I told you and the ML that ...
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20:05 < holyolli> re
20:05 < huebi> hi holyolli
20:05 < huebi> hi owl
20:05 < holyolli> huhu huebi
20:05 < holyolli> huhu owl :)
20:07 < owl> hi holyolli
20:12 < zer0_o> hi holyolli
20:14 < holyolli> hi zer0_o
20:14 < holyolli> ..and brb...just rebooting ;)
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20:31 < huebi> o_O holyolli lost in space..
20:32 < rxr> hi tsa
20:32 < rxr> hi tsa
20:32 < rxr> uups - not scrolled down ..
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20:38 < thalerim> moin all
20:38 < owl> hi thalerim
20:39 < rxr> hi thalerim
20:44 < huebi> hi thalerim
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21:01 < tsa> tag
21:02 < owl> moin
21:02 < huebi> hi tsa
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21:08 < thaly^txtanalyze> wehe, irgendwer kommt jetzt auf den verschreiber von heute morgen, nur weil in analyze "anal" drin vorkommt!!!
21:08 < huebi> hehe
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21:11 < d3mian> hi
21:11 < huebi> hi d3mian
21:12 < d3mian> how are u huebi ?
21:12 < d3mian> ohh, and mathilda ?
21:12 < huebi> fine ;-)
21:12 < d3mian> ;-)
21:12 < rxr> hi d3mian
21:12 < d3mian> rene ;-)
21:15 < huebi> ___________
21:15 < huebi> < Hi d3mian >
21:15 < huebi> -----------
21:15 < huebi> \ ^__^
21:15 < huebi> \ (oo)\_______
21:15 < huebi> (__)\ )\/\
21:15 < huebi> ||----w |
21:15 < huebi> || ||
21:16 < d3mian> nice to se u alive ;-)
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21:36 < HiJacker> Alguem fala portugues aë ???
21:37 < tsa> https://fun.drno.de/pics/english/373.gif <-- lol
21:37 < tsa> hi HiJacker
21:37 < tsa> portugues? hm...no
21:39 < HiJacker> tsa: RockLinux exist language portuguese ???
21:39 < d3mian> i fixed last typos for spanish guide, done by Mike1, already updated
21:40 < d3mian> dunno about portuguese :p
21:40 < d3mian> tsa: how does german language goes for rock doc ?
21:40 < HiJacker> d3mian: The portuguese, no ???
21:41 < d3mian> HiJacker: dunt know
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21:44 < HiJacker> d3mian: one moment please !!
21:46 < HiJacker> d3mian: Who is dunt ?
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21:46 < d3mian> HiJacker: dunt = do not
21:47 < tsa> d3mian: i didn't have much time during the last few weeks, but i wrote something together..
21:47 < HiJacker> d3mian: OK !!!
21:47 < tsa> i'll send the stuff to mike when i'm finished.
21:47 < d3mian> can anyone explain me why wget --spider ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/autoconf/autoconf-2.53.tar.bz2 ... download the file? i realized it just test the link
21:47 < HiJacker> d3mian: I am here with a translator !
21:48 < term_emu> hoihou
21:48 < d3mian> k tsa
21:48 < d3mian> hi term_emu
21:49 < thalerim> huebi: what's the most recent rocklinux version of the 1.5tree (i want the source tarball only) ... a URL would be nice
21:52 < thalerim> huebi!!!
21:54 < huebi> thalerim: jo
21:56 < thalerim> *still waiting*
21:57 * owl shots the kernel!
21:58 < huebi> thalerim: https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/files/rock-src-1.5.18.tar.bz2
21:58 < chrisime> kannst dich selber au schiessen? ;D
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21:58 < thalerim> thanks @ huebi. Soon ROCK linux will have won a new user :-)
21:59 < d3mian> https://fun.drno.de/pics/english
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22:00 < aszlig> chullo
22:02 < owl> hi aszlig
22:03 < owl> chrisime: nein, ich kann nicht mich erschiessen. ich erschiesse nur meinen kernel
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22:07 < d3mian> aszlig: chullo ?
22:10 < owl> huebi: are you here?
22:11 < owl> does someone know, if the rock-1.5.18 is tested with amd k6-2 and k6 option enabled in kernel?
22:12 < thalerim> rxr, huebi: there is obviously a lack of communication between you.
22:12 < d3mian> that remember me that my k6-2 used to gimme several failures
22:13 < owl> d3mian: asm-messages?!!! when compiling kernel?!
22:13 < owl> d3mian: or which errors?
22:16 < d3mian> segfaults.. now solved building for i386
22:16 < d3mian> insteaf of i586, as i used to do
22:17 < d3mian> mainly in debuggers and compilers
22:17 < owl> i see.. ok. did you also try to compile a kernel?
22:17 < d3mian> sur
22:17 < d3mian> e
22:17 < owl> did it work? or did you get errors?
22:18 < d3mian> none error
22:18 < owl> ufffffffff. that sucks...
22:18 < d3mian> what u got ?
22:18 < aszlig> d3mian: yes, chullo
22:19 < aszlig> d3mian: i changed my dialect ;)
22:19 < owl> cuz i always get asm-messages... with 1.5.16-i586 i get no errors (normally) compiling 2.4.18 kernel... but compoiling 2.4.19 i get asm-msges and/or sig11
22:19 < aszlig> d3mian: +'ve ;)
22:19 < d3mian> aszlig: what is chullo in ur dialect ?
22:19 < tsa> owl: try compiling something else.
22:20 < tsa> xfree or something big.
22:20 < aszlig> d3mian: speak it in german... [s]chullo
22:20 < owl> tsa: hm. i should try it... gcc 3.2?
22:20 < d3mian> aszlig: dunno german :p
22:20 < aszlig> d3mian: usually i say hullo...
22:20 < tsa> owl: something known to work.
22:20 < owl> aszlig: aeh? i don't speak it... --> chullo...
22:20 < tsa> 2.95.3
22:20 < tsa> or something.
22:20 < d3mian> ah, hullo = hi ?
22:21 < aszlig> d3mian: yeah ;)
22:21 < owl> tsa: ok. i will try it...
22:21 < d3mian> k
22:30 < d3mian> seems that wget --spider doesnt work with files in ftp servers.. i download first the file or index and later erase it, that's doesnt make sense
22:30 < d3mian> does curl have sth to test a link , like --spider in wget ?
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22:32 < Mike1> Hi
22:33 < rxr> hi Mike1
22:33 < th> d3mian: spider only works on http. ack
22:33 < thalerim> gn8 all
22:33 < Mike1> rxr: wie gehts?
22:33 < rxr> cu thalerim
22:33 < th> hi Mike1
22:33 < rxr> Mike1: sehr gut ;-)! Und dir?
22:33 < Mike1> gut :)
22:33 < owl> hi Mike1, hi th
22:33 < th> hi owl
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22:34 < Mike1> rxr: I am going to an play around a friends sparc in the next days, and i was wiling to build 1.7 on it, so far what the status of the sparc port on 1.7?
22:34 < Mike1> known issues and bugs?
22:35 < rxr> Mike1: I had no time for this in the last two months ...
22:36 < Mike1> rxr: ah i see, so its sort of unmaintained...ok i will give a try to it anyways
22:36 < Mike1> d3mian: awake?
22:37 < huebi> hi Mike1
22:38 < d3mian> Master Mike1
22:38 < d3mian> th: that's explain it, thanx
22:38 < Mike1> huebi: hi how are you today ?
22:39 < d3mian> and sth in curl with the same function than --spider ?
22:39 < Mike1> d3mian: we will after have some ROCK stuff for compuexpo, will you join us?
22:39 < d3mian> ?
22:39 < d3mian> really will be sth this year in compuexpo about rock ?
22:39 < huebi> Mike1: Very fine. I rent an other flat in the neigbourhood for my business.
22:40 < rxr> Mike1: you do not need to try it - it will not work. The Glibc (or so) needs some fixing before it will work.
22:40 < Mike1> d3mian: yes i will give you more details in a bit if you wanna join the crew
22:40 < d3mian> k
22:40 < Mike1> rxr: mmm btw did you update to gcc3.2 already?
22:41 < Mike1> huebi: hehe very nice
22:41 * d3mian ask himself who are the other rock users in costa rica ?
22:41 * Mike1 has a problem, he needs to run rock on sparc and both trees are broken :((
22:41 < Mike1> d3mian: you will see
22:42 * d3mian surprised
22:42 < Mike1> d3mian: but dont spect very skilled developers ;)
22:43 < d3mian> hehe
22:44 < Mike1> huebi: do you have a newer funtional rock 1.5.x iso for sparc than the one i gave to you long time ago?
22:47 < rxr> Mike1: yes in 1.7 Cliff did this update
22:47 < huebi> Mike1: Yes, mom
22:48 < rxr> but 3.1 is nearly 3.1.1 - mostly the C++ ABI got fixed -> and thus the C++ binaries are not interchangeable
22:48 < Mike1> rxr: its works more nicer for building 64bit stuff
22:48 < Mike1> rxr: mmm...
22:49 < Mike1> huebi: sure :)
22:53 < huebi> Mike1: ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/pub/rock-sparc64-sparc_v9-base+opt-1.5.18.iso but only 128Kbit
22:53 < d3mian> damn mail server :( arggg
22:53 < huebi> Mike1: still unbootable
22:55 < huebi> Mike1: And a broken kernel. You must compile your own one in chroot when you install it.
22:55 < Mike1> huebi: hehe thanks, i dont care you already told the little trick you used for the 1.5.12 isos i gave you so that will do it :) about the 128kbit well it shopuld finish someday :)
22:55 < huebi> Mike1: I just restart the connection...
22:55 < Mike1> huebi: oh... thats a good advice thank you :), what about xfree? have you made it to run?
22:56 < huebi> Mike1: No, I didn't
22:57 < huebi> connection is now restarted
22:57 < Mike1> huebi: mmm.. i am wiling to get x running on it but we will see :)
22:58 < huebi> I had a look a debian. They have a 1.5MB patch for Xfree86 4.1.0 IIRC
22:58 < Mike1> huebi: is taking forever to start download
22:59 < Mike1> huebi: do you have an URL? i would like to look at it
22:59 < huebi> Mike1: wait a moment. the IP must be updated first
22:59 < Mike1> hehe ok
23:00 < th> you should split the file
23:00 * Mike1 waiting a moment
23:00 < Mike1> th: ?
23:00 < huebi> th: yes, I can do so
23:00 < th> split the file into smaller pieces
23:00 < Mike1> ack
23:01 < Mike1> huebi: ah it works now :)
23:02 < huebi> I feel it
23:02 < huebi> no QoS here
23:03 < huebi> #################################### Avg: 140096.00 Bit/s
23:06 < Mike1> yup your connection wouldnt allow me to download faster then that :)
23:06 < rxr> huebi: the debian people usually patch XFree to an CVS snapshot ...
23:07 < tsa> urghs
23:07 < tsa> patches against cvs?
23:07 < tsa> that's crap.
23:07 < rxr> tsa: no. patch from vanilla -> cvs-snapshot ...
23:07 < tsa> *phew*
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23:32 * tsa going to get some sleep.
23:32 < tsa> cu all
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23:55 < owl> gn8
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23:55 < huebi> cu ow
23:55 < rxr> n8 owl
23:55 < Mike1> hehe too late :)
23:56 < huebi> Mike1: the lag is quit hi here.
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