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00:03 < Mike1> rawl: muy bien gracias ud que tal?
00:28 < Mike1> see you tomorrow
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02:17 < d3mian> re
02:18 < th> d3mian: hi
02:18 < th> d3mian: just had a look to the patch
02:19 < d3mian> yes..?
02:19 < th> yea
02:19 < d3mian> hi tobias ;-)
02:20 < th> aehm. yes. "hi" ;)
02:20 < d3mian> so, applied ?
02:20 < th> well i do some last modifications
02:20 < th> script should not check all URLs only
02:20 < th> it accepts a pattern as $1
02:21 < d3mian> i see
02:21 < th> which is passed to egrep
02:21 < d3mian> im sure u can change that easily
02:21 < th> yea
02:21 < th> almost done ;)
02:21 < d3mian> already done ?
02:21 < d3mian> okay
02:21 < th> your checking works great
02:21 < th> just a minor "trap" problem
02:21 < d3mian> nice to hear that
02:21 < d3mian> what is the prob with trap ?
02:22 < th> SIGINT just leaves the inner loop
02:22 < d3mian> i use it to clean the index files
02:22 < th> yes
02:22 < d3mian> i see
02:22 < th> one index file was not neccessary
02:23 < d3mian> the pz's one ?
02:23 < th> i changed your "> index.file ; for x in `cat index.file`" into something like "| while read x"
02:23 < th> yes
02:23 < th> i think i can remove the clean
02:23 < d3mian> as i was made at the first
02:23 < d3mian> do what u think is necessary
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02:24 < d3mian> s/i/it
02:24 < th> d3mian: i do a s,break,exit,
02:24 < d3mian> ohh, nice
02:24 < d3mian> better
02:25 < d3mian> at least i could give u an idea about how i do it
02:25 < th> yea i won't touch the core checking ;)
02:25 < d3mian> and.. havent it given u any prob?
02:25 < th> it's nice
02:26 < th> i really appreciate that contribution
02:26 < d3mian> ;-)
02:28 < th> hmmm the trap thing does not work
02:28 < th> strange
02:28 < d3mian> really?
02:28 < d3mian> how did u implement it ?
02:28 < th> trap "echo YEA YEA YEA" SIGINT
02:28 < d3mian> trap 'break ; exit' SIGINT ?
02:28 < th> and then two loops
02:28 < th> with pzcheck
02:29 < d3mian> let me test too
02:31 < th> the sigint just goes to the checker-command and interupts it.
02:31 * owl leaves you now
02:31 < owl> g8
02:31 < owl> cu
02:31 < d3mian> vut the loop continues right ?
02:31 < th> bye owl
02:31 < d3mian> cya owl
02:31 < th> d3mian: ack
02:32 < th> d3mian: perhaps we should trap inside pzcheck and let the caller know an interruption by return-code
02:32 < d3mian> let me do some fixes.. to know what can i do
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02:32 < th> d3mian: second... i'll commit my version
02:32 < d3mian> th: an 'exit' in pzcheck?
02:32 < d3mian> ohh sure th
02:33 < th> d3mian: that could be a good idea
02:33 < th> lemme test that
02:33 < th> nope
02:33 < th> have a look it's in cvs
02:34 < d3mian> ok, this will take some time with this connection..
02:37 < d3mian> th: i have to leave right now.. a little emergency.. im cvsing.. ill do sth in within an hour
02:37 < d3mian> cya
02:37 < th> ok
02:37 < th> cya
02:48 < th> away for sleep now..
03:36 < rolla_> my machine boot s and I get a LI instead of LILO what is the deal ?
04:08 < bluefire> G'd night
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04:29 < d3mian> re
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05:39 < rawl> diviertanmen
05:41 < d3mian> :p
05:41 < d3mian> LANG=en
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07:12 < huebi> moin
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07:43 < plfiorini> hi
07:43 < plfiorini> who's awake?
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09:06 < huebi> bbl
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09:51 < tsa> hi
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10:42 < th> moin
10:44 < esden> moin
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10:50 < clifford> hi rxr.
10:51 < clifford> rxr: you there?
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11:27 < esden> re clifford
11:30 < clifford> hi esden. just got your mail.
11:35 < th> sounds like MX-record spoofing ;)
11:36 < tsa> rotfl
11:52 < esden> clifford: good ;-)
11:55 < esden> th: ???
11:55 < th> yes?
11:58 < esden> nothing ...
11:59 < th> okay
12:01 < esden> ahh ... finally after three days I could get throug all my email's !!! *happy*
12:02 < tsa> hehe...
12:03 < th> (it's because since now cliff get's his emails.)
12:04 < th> ich hasse diskettenlaufwerke
12:04 < tsa> ack.
12:09 < th> hmm september '98
12:09 < th> dusty
12:11 < th> opened
12:11 < th> i'm afraid the important places of dirt are not accessable
12:12 < th> well, it's just a floppy=drive. i'll do my best ;)
12:55 < esden> cu all
12:55 * -> esden be back tomorrow ...
13:09 < huebi> re
13:09 < huebi> tsa: The Monitor should be delivered tomorrow
13:11 < th> huebi: have a look at scripts/Check, btw
13:11 < huebi> *CLICK*
13:11 < th> huebi: it checks downloadability of an URL
13:12 < huebi> d3mians patch did not apply again :(
13:14 < huebi> th: look good ;-)
13:14 < th> huebi: it's not 100% working
13:14 < th> huebi: for example if you check nvidia
13:15 < th> huebi: it says "failure" but actually download works
13:15 < th> it's because of Windows-NT on nvidia ftpd ;)
13:15 < th> huebi: $1 is taken as a pattern to grep as in scripts/Update
13:16 < th> so "." as $1 will cause checking for all .pz files
13:17 < huebi> ah, I understand.
13:17 < th> it accesses only .pz files
13:17 < th> no indexes and no .ext files
13:18 < th> so needs to be run in a puzzled rock-src tree
13:18 < huebi> yes, because ... -name '*.pz'
13:18 < th> yes
13:19 < th> huebi: perhaps you could announce Check and Update somehow to 1.5 users
13:19 < huebi> scripts/Puzzle must be run first of all before you do anything in ROCK.
13:21 < huebi> th: can you announce Update and Check on the list? It's mostly your work and that should be your honor. ;-)
13:21 < th> hmmm...
13:21 < th> "honor"
13:21 < th> hmmm...
13:22 < th> unwillingly
13:22 < huebi> th: What do you think about it?
13:22 < th> huebi: you're the maintainer ;)
13:23 < th> i was just hacking some suiting tools...
13:23 * th doesn't like to announce stuff.
13:24 < huebi> th: Ok. If you don't like the annonce stuff I do it.
13:24 < th> yea. thanks
13:24 < huebi> +u
13:25 < huebi> th: Is it ok if I say that you did the changes?
13:25 < th> yea no problem
13:25 < th> it was from scratch
13:25 < th> not a change ;)
13:26 < huebi> Check is from scratch, exuse me. And Update is changed by you.
13:27 < th> Update is from scratch too
13:27 < th> the old rsync stuff was more then obsolete;)
13:27 < th> it's a new version. written from scratch
13:27 < huebi> th: Ok. I'll write that.
13:28 * huebi inspecting Groenemeyer - Mensch. It's copyprotected.
13:32 < huebi> fake: Pinnnng.
13:32 < huebi> fake: Do you want to have an Octane?
13:33 < huebi> fake: 250MHz, 512MB RAM, SI-Graphics, IRIX - newest version.
13:33 < huebi> ll
13:33 < th> single cpu?
13:34 < huebi> jo, But can be 2
13:34 < huebi> all configurations are possible.
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13:35 < huebi> hi Ge0rG
13:35 < Ge0rG> hi
13:39 < huebi> Can somebody support me with an external backup? *g* ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/pub/Groenemeyer_Mensch/
13:40 < tsa> bbl.
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13:46 < th> huebi: i would. but i don't like groenermeyer
13:47 < th> huebi: perhaps i could offer "backup-service" for some other files?!
13:47 < foonikens> hi
13:47 < th> hi foonikens
13:49 < foonikens> i've question
13:49 < foonikens> possible ?
13:49 < th> it's very possible that you have a question ;)
13:49 < th> shoot!
13:50 < foonikens> oki what's the system package on rocklinux ?
13:50 < foonikens> << newb on linux
13:50 < th> tbz2
13:50 < th> so just tars
13:50 < foonikens> ok
13:51 < th> (for binary packages)
13:51 < th> and a "source-package" consists of information about where to get the source and build-instructions
13:51 < foonikens> ok
13:51 < foonikens> not very newb
13:52 < foonikens> i'm learning linux on debian
13:52 < foonikens> for moment
13:52 < foonikens> but i'll try another distro
13:52 < th> well. rock is a quite bleeding edge meta-distribution
13:53 < th> aiming to be bare and recent
13:53 < foonikens> stable ?
13:53 < th> i'm using rock in many productive environments
13:53 < foonikens> ok
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14:02 < praenti> hi
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14:09 < huebi> moin praenti
14:10 < huebi> th: I have to clean up my disk first. But then you can give me some backup support for about 70GB of .mp3 and ~400GB of .mpg
14:11 < foonikens> th i've got a second pc p166 with 64 Mo. good for test rocklinux ?
14:13 < huebi> foonikens: Also a big german bank uses Rocklinux on prodution servers
14:13 < huebi> foonikens: The box is big enough
14:15 < foonikens> ok
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14:18 < th> huebi: hehe ok...
14:19 < th> huebi: 400gb... hmm not easy to acquire...
14:19 < huebi> I will det additional ~200 GB in the next days, I hope
14:20 < th> huebi: hardware raid?
14:20 < th> huebi: i just bought a 3ware 7500-8b yesterday
14:27 < foonikens> ciaoo
14:27 < foonikens> thx for help
14:27 < foonikens> :)
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14:27 < thalerim> will go to sleep a bit now
14:28 < thalerim> cu this evening
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14:58 < rolla_> re
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15:25 < rolla> quiet in here today
15:53 * praenti away
16:11 < esden> yess !!! I have internet !!! *jumparound*
16:15 * -> esden getting mine sources for testing ;-)
16:23 < esden> cu guys
16:29 < tomik> hi esden
16:34 < snyke> esden?
16:34 < snyke> hm.
17:15 < d3mian> re
17:17 < d3mian> th: u here ?
17:17 < d3mian> huebi: u2 ?
17:24 < d3mian> th: any new with Check ?
17:35 < rolla> is ftp.gnu.org down ?
17:36 < d3mian> i think so
17:36 < d3mian> let me check..
17:36 < rolla> crap
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18:14 < d3mian> yeah, really:
18:14 < d3mian> base autoconf-2.53.tar.bz2 broken (ftp - directory) ...
18:14 < d3mian> base automake-1.6.2.tar.bz2 broken (ftp - directory) ...
18:14 < d3mian> base bash-2.05b.tar.gz broken (ftp - directory) ...
18:14 < huebi> ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/rock-pkg-1.5/base-archive/autoconf/autoconf-2.53.tar.bz2
18:15 < huebi> ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/rock-pkg-1.5/base-archive/automake/automake-1.6.3.tar.bz2
18:15 < huebi> ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/rock-pkg-1.5/base-archive/bash/bash-2.05b.tar.bz2
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18:15 < d3mian> can u use u as a mirror ?
18:15 < huebi> ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/rock-pkg-1.5/base-archive/bash/bash-doc-2.05b.tar.bz2
18:15 < huebi> d3mian: No, the connection is too slow
18:15 < d3mian> k
18:15 < huebi> d3mian: 128kBit/s
18:16 < huebi> d3mian: but grab what you want from it.
18:16 < d3mian> k
18:16 * rolla wonders what is wrong with frp.gnu.org :(
18:22 < d3mian> th: using a 'for' loop as i did in the patch u saw works when adding trap 'clean ; exit' SIGINT
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18:24 < d3mian> th: dunno why, but using a 'while' loop doesnt work
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18:40 < d3mian> arrggg, a shutdown im my station, code lost :(
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19:06 < owl> hi
19:07 < d3mian> hi owl
19:07 < owl> hi d3mian
19:07 < d3mian> th: okay, now it works cool (i mean Check script)
19:14 < d3mian> th: i sent u a mail @rocklinux.org
19:19 < d3mian> cya guys
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19:23 < owl> re
19:36 < rxr> re
19:36 < rxr> clifford: hi
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20:03 < thalerim> moin all.
20:03 < owl> hi thalerim
20:04 < rolla> wok
20:04 < rolla> owl
20:05 < owl> rolla :P
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20:35 < owl> moin tsa
20:35 < tsa> re
20:38 < clifford> rxr: still there?
20:39 < owl> hi clifford
20:39 < clifford> hi owl.
20:39 < thalerim> ah clifford!
20:39 < clifford> hi.
20:39 < tsa> hi clifford
20:39 < clifford> hi. all.
20:40 < thalerim> clifford: could it be that the Build-Pkg script chowns src/ to root?
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20:41 < tsa> thalerim: yes
20:41 < thalerim> why?
20:41 < thalerim> it's quite annoying
20:42 < clifford> for security reasons.
20:42 < thalerim> mh? ...
20:42 < clifford> why does that annoy you?
20:43 < thalerim> i don't want to download the files with root
20:43 < thalerim> ./scripts/Dowload uses this directory as well.
20:43 < thalerim> +n
20:44 < clifford> oh! you don't mean src.*/ - you really mean the src/ directory.
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20:44 < owl> re
20:45 < clifford> The permissions of that one shouldn't be changed.
20:46 < thalerim> of what dir?
20:46 < clifford> However - the directory will be removed by Cleanup.
20:46 < clifford> So when you call Cleanup and than call any other script which re-creates src/ as root ..
20:47 < thalerim> sorry, i can't follow you at the moment... i had training, and i am eating now
20:48 < clifford> ./scripts/Cleanup removes src/.
20:48 < thalerim> and?
20:48 < clifford> Another other script recreates src/
20:48 < thalerim> but to call cleanup i must be root
20:49 < clifford> so what ever the permissions of the old src/ dir was - the new one will be owned by the user which did run the script which recreated the directory.
20:49 < thalerim> this are at least three commands + one password to type :-)
20:49 < clifford> ... and that user will be root in almost all cases ..
20:51 < thalerim> clifford: does Build-Pkg call cleanup to recreate src/ *then*?
20:51 < clifford> No script (with the exception of scripts/Internal) calls the Cleanup script.
20:52 < clifford> Many scripts are creating src/ if it's not there.
20:52 < thalerim> however, one thing i miss is that i could run Build-Pkg as normal user, and when it'd be the turn of make install, it should `su' if [ $UID != 0 ]
20:52 < thalerim> this could be done by offering a function for the .conf file to be invoked beofre the make install
20:53 < clifford> And what difference would that make?
20:53 < clifford> su can not call a function of a shell script.
20:53 < thalerim> the problem above should be fixed then as well
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20:54 < thalerim> i'm not paranoid, but i agree to the devise "Do nothing as root that could be passed"
20:54 < clifford> that problem could also be fixed without rewrinting 80% of Build-Pkg.
20:55 < clifford> So. This can't.
20:55 < thalerim> clifford: <thalerim> this could be done by offering a function for the .conf file to be invoked beofre the make install <-
20:55 < clifford> at least not without introducing a very problematic thing ..
20:56 < clifford> <clifford> su can not call a function of a shell script.
20:56 < thalerim> mh?
20:57 < clifford> Also: neighter strace nor an ld preload wrapper can look into a suid-program like su and it's sub-procs.
20:57 < clifford> So we would need to redesign the whole flist wrapper thing.
20:58 < thalerim> you mean if su is called anywhere in the script, fl-wrapper won't work anymore?
20:58 < clifford> Also: that means that a build could only be possible on a system with an empty root password or with the root password plain text in the build config or with a special suid-0 program which would be required to give almost uncontroled access to the build user.
20:59 < clifford> sure. the ptrace kernel hooks and the ld preload elf feature allow both the controlling (watching) process full control over the controled/watched process.
21:00 < clifford> did you really think that this is allowed on a suid program like su??
21:00 < thalerim> ok
21:00 < thalerim> ic
21:01 < clifford> and the most importand thing: having such a seperation wouldn't make any difference: If the package you are installing would really try to exploit you system in any way - it would do it during the 'make install' phase anyway ..
21:02 < thalerim> clifford: to the first problem: why does Build-Pkg removes the src/ to recreate it then? (hm, i must take a look into the sources, but this will probably take a quite long time, that's why i ask you)
21:03 < clifford> I never said that it does. Cleanup does. That would be an explanation why the permission of src/ seams to be "changed" - but only if you call Cleanup from time to time (what you are pretty sure doing).
21:04 < thalerim> no, haven't done it so far
21:04 < thalerim> that's why i wonder and ask
21:05 < clifford> I just tryied. Calling Build-Pkg doesn't change the permissions of src/ in any way.
21:05 < clifford> Are we talking about 1.5 or 1.7 ??
21:05 < thalerim> 1.5
21:05 < thalerim> *g*
21:05 < clifford> In 1.5 Build-All calles Cleanup a few times.
21:05 < thalerim> no, i don't speak about build-all
21:06 < thalerim> tsa: ping
21:06 < tsa> pong
21:07 < thalerim> above you said yes to the question if build-pkg affects the src/-dir
21:07 < tsa> in 1.7, sure.
21:07 < clifford> Maybe in 1.5 some scripts are mangling with src/. Huebi should be asked that question. I don't know much of the changes in 1.5 since 1.5.12 (the last of my releases).
21:08 < clifford> I said many scripts re-create build-pkg.
21:08 < clifford> correction:
21:09 < clifford> I said that many scripts re-create src/.
21:09 < clifford> (Build-Pkg might only do that in some rare cases in 1.7)
21:09 < thalerim> well i will ask huebi
21:10 < thalerim> i only think it's annoying to re-chown src/ each time i want to download something, because i called Build-Pkg some time ago
21:10 < thalerim> mh
21:11 < clifford> You can create a seperate linked tree (using Create-Links) just for downloading.
21:11 < thalerim> i will use ./scripts/Build-pkg <package> && ./scripts/Cleanup the next time
21:11 < thalerim> that should be a good workaround, should't it?
21:12 < clifford> ask huebi - but i don't think that Build-Pkg is doing anything with src/ in 1.5
21:13 < clifford> however: "./scripts/Build-pkg <package> ; chown foobar src/" should also do the job.
21:13 < thalerim> dunno what Cleanup does at all
21:14 < clifford> It's something like "make clean"
21:14 < thalerim> ok, then it's what i thought it is
21:14 < clifford> I have to go now again ...
21:14 < clifford> cu.
21:14 < thalerim> have phun
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21:15 < clifford_away> thalerim: I'll try ... ;-)
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21:21 < rxr> hi clifford_away
21:21 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux
21:21 < rxr> urgs
21:21 < Mike1> hi all
21:21 < rxr> hi Mike1
21:21 < Mike1> hi rxr :)
21:21 < owl> hi Mike1, rxr
21:22 < Mike1> yo owly
21:22 < tsa> owly.
21:22 < tsa> buahahahaha
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21:23 < owl> tsa: *g*
21:23 < Mike1> wie gehts Sebastian?
21:23 < tsa> hey Mike1
21:23 < tsa> Mike1: danke gut, aber wenn ich komplett auf deutsch antworte, verstehst du mich ja doch nicht..
21:26 < Mike1> tsa: actually yes id o understand you
21:26 < tsa> hehe
21:27 < Mike1> perhaps i dont feel enought confident to answer back but i do understand
21:27 < Mike1> ;)
21:27 < rolla> Mike
21:27 < praenti> hi
21:27 < owl> hi praenti
21:27 < praenti> anybody have a running 2.5 kernel?
21:27 < Mike1> rolla
21:32 < thalerim> praenti: i am running a 2.4.19-sched-preem-lwlat-rmap and a 2.5.32-Htree
21:32 < praenti> thalerim: how do you get 2.5.32 compile
21:33 < praenti> i get errors in the ld which links the vmlinuz
21:33 < thalerim> "a lot of" compile errors have been passing trough the list
21:34 < praenti> thalerim: as i have seen i must change two softlinks to compile it
21:35 < praenti> first i have to set the asm to the linux asm-i386 and the asm-generic to the linux asm-generic, roght?
21:35 < praenti> s/roght/right
21:36 < thalerim> praenti: dunno.. here everything worked. But - since any scsi thing is somewhat broken (aic7xxx at least - and i use it of course *grm*) - i removed the kernel to use the 2.4.19 instead
21:36 < thalerim> ah
21:36 < thalerim> praenti: eh
21:36 < praenti> thalerim: i get some errors with builtin.o and network.o
21:37 < thalerim> praenti: yes this symlinks i must do as well. Are you using rock 1.5.18?
21:37 < praenti> thalerim: 1.5.17
21:37 < owl> praenti: which errors you get?
21:38 < thalerim> at least in 1.5.18 /usr/include/asm is a directory that should be a symlink to /usr/src/linux/include/asm
21:38 < praenti> ah. mom. i compiled it on my laptop. it is the very old 1.5.12
21:39 < thalerim> praenti: don't think it'll help
21:39 < thalerim> but try
21:40 < praenti> thalerim: in /usr/src/linux/include i dont have an asm
21:41 < praenti> i changed that symlink to /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386
21:41 < thalerim> /usr/src/linux/asm should link to the asm-dir of your arch
21:41 < thalerim> i.e. arch-i386
21:43 < praenti> thalerim: ok. then i have it done correctly
21:43 < d3mian> re
21:43 < d3mian> Mike1: hallo Miguel
21:43 < Mike1> d3mian: !
21:43 < praenti> let me try with my rock 1.5.17. perhaps s.th. old in 1.5.12 is the problem
21:43 < Mike1> d3mian: where have you been?
21:43 < d3mian> u never wrote me a mail
21:44 < thalerim> praenti: no
21:44 < d3mian> iv been here
21:44 < Mike1> no i have been looking for you during 2 days
21:44 < thalerim> praenti: i used 2.5.25-2.5.30 with rock-1.5.12
21:44 < d3mian> i tell u to write me a mail if u wanted me to go to compuexpo
21:44 < d3mian> i said u last days that my visit around hre wont be often
21:45 < Mike1> oh :(
21:45 * Mike1 forgot
21:45 < Mike1> i lost contact with richard so i will go today after work
21:45 < Mike1> wanna join me?
21:45 < d3mian> dunt think so
21:45 < d3mian> i need to study hard
21:46 < Mike1> :( ok
21:46 < d3mian> two tests tomorrow and one else after tomorrow
21:46 < d3mian> of the same course, but maybe tomorrow..
21:46 < d3mian> after both tests
21:46 < d3mian> agree ?
21:46 < Mike1> sure whenever you get the chance
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21:49 < zer0_o> lo =)
21:50 < zer0_o> wollte fragen ob mir jemand helfen kann
21:50 < zer0_o> anyone there ?
21:50 < huebi> Nein, alle beim Schlamm schippen
21:51 < huebi> re btw
21:51 < d3mian> hi huebi
21:51 < Mike1> huebi: whats up my friend ?
21:51 < huebi> Mike1: hi, tired
21:51 < zer0_o> =)
21:51 < huebi> zer0_o: what do you want to know
21:52 < zer0_o> ich hab n problem
21:52 < Mike1> huebi: i am no longer tired
21:52 < Mike1> huebi: finally i got to sleep 11 hours
21:52 < zer0_o> beim laden von lilo gibts n "01" loop =|
21:52 < huebi> zer0_o: expoert LANG=en_GB
21:53 < d3mian> Mike1: i won! 12 hours ;-)
21:53 < huebi> zer0_o: let install lilo itself on all disks
21:53 < Mike1> d3mian: i thought you were studying!
21:53 < zer0_o> on ALL ?
21:53 < huebi> zer0_o: ACK
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21:53 < d3mian> i was playing baseball.. i ve just came from there
21:54 < huebi> zer0_o: helps some times
21:54 < zer0_o> its just one disk ...
21:54 < tsa> huhu huebi
21:54 < Mike1> arrggg anyone know whats going on with ftp.gnu.org? i havent been able to download stuff from there since yesterday, thought the server is up
21:54 < huebi> hi tsa
21:54 < huebi> zer0_o: update your BIOS
21:54 < praenti> thalerim: can you join #aol?
21:54 < thalerim> why?
21:54 < tsa> huebi: wie ist das mit dem p202, kommt der mit rechnung oder nachnahme oder ..?
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21:56 < d3mian> cya later
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21:59 < tsa> hm..
21:59 < owl> bla
21:59 < tsa> blubb
22:01 < tsa> owly sounds cute
22:01 < tsa> *G*
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22:02 < huebi> re
22:02 < tsa> owly: coffee please..
22:02 < tsa> re huebi
22:02 < tsa> da isser ja wieder..
22:02 < tsa> huebi hat's internet kaputtgemacht!
22:02 < thalerim> root@itnernet # shutdown -h now
22:02 < tsa> huebi: wie ist das mit dem p202, kommt der mit rechnung oder nachnahme oder ..?
22:02 < thalerim> root@internet # shutdown -h now
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22:03 < huebi> tsa: Der Monitor kommt einfach so mit Lieferschein. Rechning kommt spaeter.
22:03 < owl> tsa: tea please.
22:03 < tsa> ok, alles klar.
22:03 < tsa> owly: no.
22:03 < owl> tsa: pah.
22:03 < tsa> you woman. go make coffee. now.
22:04 < tsa> one for huebi, too.
22:04 < owl> tsa: stop flooding the channel :P
22:05 < tsa> owly: start making coffee :P
22:05 < huebi> owl: A japanese tea ceremony would be kool
22:06 < owl> no. i will just do one thing - and it's called - _nothing_
22:06 < owl> huebi: noe. kamillentee waere mir zumindest lieber...
22:06 < tsa> huebi: a waitress in a topless bar bringing beer would be kool, too ;-)
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22:07 < d3mian> ahh, owl is offering coffee, so list another one for me owl !
22:07 < owl> d3mian: i will never serve coffee or so
22:08 < tsa> _________
22:08 < tsa> ( coffee! )
22:08 < tsa> ---------
22:08 < tsa> o ,__,
22:08 < tsa> o (oo)____
22:08 < tsa> (__) )\
22:08 < tsa> ||--|| *
22:08 < owl> tsa: make one, using your own coffee machine. hopefully you know how it works... :P
22:09 < tsa> owl: beer would be ok, too..
22:09 < d3mian> nahh, cya later
22:09 < tsa> ;)
22:09 < owl> tsa: no beer, no coffee.
22:09 < zer0_o> huebi, it's a p3b-f with the newest bios .. =(
22:09 < owl> tsa: where's my tea?! ;P
22:09 < huebi> cu d3mian
22:09 < Mike1> tsa: would be nice making a coffee machine
22:09 < zer0_o> cu d3mian
22:10 < Mike1> Coffee-MiniHowto
22:10 < praenti> ok. i'm going to bed. gn8
22:10 < zer0_o> n8 praenti
22:10 < huebi> cu praenti
22:10 < Mike1> nacht praenti
22:10 < h0h0> heh, do you have a script or something to talk in cow-bubble-talk?
22:10 < zer0_o> huebi, my installation is hopeless ;)
22:10 < huebi> zer0_o: flood uor lilo.conf in #aol
22:10 < zer0_o> rofl
22:11 < huebi> you even
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22:11 < huebi> h0h0: it's cowthink
22:11 < h0h0> think? it looks alot like a speech bubble to me
22:11 < zer0_o> for (int i=1;i>8888888888;i++) { cout << "01";}
22:12 < zer0_o> ow.. <
22:12 < tsa> owly: your tea is in your kitchen, i guess. (you know, the room in your house you forgot to clean.. )
22:12 < huebi> h0h0: https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/files/cowsay_3.03.orig.tar.gz
22:12 < tsa> i prefer cowthink to cowsay.
22:12 < h0h0> is it a script or something? or just a program you /exec -o cowthing thinking
22:13 < huebi> h0h0: perl I think
22:13 < tsa> cowsay uses / on the beginning of a line...not very good for irc..
22:13 < tsa> /
22:13 < tsa> hm..
22:13 < tsa> this way it works.
22:14 < huebi> \/
22:14 < tsa> ./exec -o while true; do echo "server desync in progress..";done
22:15 < huebi> zer0_o: What's up?
22:15 < zer0_o> my machine sux =(
22:15 < Mike1> zer0_o: a sucking machine??
22:15 < tsa> you don't need a girfriend then..
22:15 < zer0_o> yeah... =D
22:15 < huebi> zer0_o: I'll recycle it for only 50 EUR
22:16 < tsa> hm..looks like a reasonable offer..
22:16 < zer0_o> yeah, the recycle-firm is just 20 minutes from here
22:16 < zer0_o> but it's a pIII 600@800
22:17 < h0h0> _____
22:17 < h0h0> ( fie )
22:17 < h0h0> -----
22:17 < h0h0> o ^__^
22:17 < h0h0> o (oo)\_______
22:17 < h0h0> (__)\ )\/\
22:17 < h0h0> ||----w |
22:17 < h0h0> || ||
22:17 < h0h0> leet
22:17 < h0h0> now Ill be safe from the nsa!
22:18 < zer0_o> hm
22:18 < huebi> h0h0: Well you could also test the BND *g*
22:19 < zer0_o> huebi, no idea to eliminate my problem ?
22:19 < zer0_o> maybe false configuration in lilo.conf?
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22:21 < zer0_o> yeah, that's gonna help =(
22:21 < zer0_o> ... easy no problem i'll try it for myself..
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22:21 < huebi> tsa: no, he didn't
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22:33 < Mike1> arrgg
22:35 < tsa> ./msg lilo if you manage to get more servers than you need, just send them over..
22:35 < tsa> ;)
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22:55 < zer0_o> the goal of rocklinux is not, to get popular... am i right?
22:55 < Mike1> zer0_o: dpends on how you define popular
22:56 -!- HiJacker [~HiJacker@RJ224179.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #rocklinux
22:56 < Mike1> zer0_o: if call popular a distro to be userfriendly and follow the same philosophy of red hat, suse, or mandrake you will be disapointed
22:56 < HiJacker> huebi: Tá aë ???
22:57 < Mike1> oi HiJacker
22:57 < zer0_o> no i don't want a userfriendly distro ... if i would, i had installed suse or redhat
22:57 < HiJacker> Fala aë ???
22:57 < HiJacker> Mike1: Fala Portugues ???
22:57 < Mike1> HiJacker: sim eu falo
22:57 < esden> hi all
22:57 < Mike1> hi esden
22:57 < Mike1> :)
22:57 < esden> hi Mike1 !!
22:57 < HiJacker> Mike1: Saca de Rock Linux ???
22:58 < esden> export LANG=EN_en ?
22:58 < HiJacker> Mike1: Já instalou o RockLinux ???
22:58 < Mike1> HiJacker: lets talk english here so no body gets offended
22:59 < HiJacker> Mike1: Parou de falar em portugues ué ???
22:59 < esden> I will not get offended ... I only would like to know what you are talking about ;-)
22:59 < HiJacker> Mike1: Fala em portuguews ???
22:59 < esden> hmm ...
22:59 < HiJacker> Mike1: Tá aë ainda ???
22:59 < Mike1> HiJacker: voce falas ingles?
23:00 < HiJacker> Mike1: Cara, quase nada !!!!
23:00 < Mike1> HiJacker: ah :) hehe
23:00 < esden> ahh ... he is not talking english ...
23:00 < HiJacker> Mike1: Tá no Brasil ???
23:00 < esden> that explanes all ;-)
23:01 < Mike1> HiJacker: espanhol?
23:01 < Mike1> esden: he only speacks portuguess no english or german
23:01 < HiJacker> Mike1: un pouquito !!!
23:02 < Mike1> HiJacker: Eu sou de Costa Rica
23:02 < HiJacker> Mike1: Gostaria saber se o RockLinux tem em Portugues ???
23:03 < Mike1> Há uma guia de ROCK Linux no espanhol
23:03 < zer0_o> look, i take an aprenticeship as a it specialist.. that means, i have to do some experience with linux.. rocklinux is welcome to me for that... but i really would be facilitated if you could help me...
23:04 < HiJacker> Mike1: Tudo bem !!!!
23:04 < Mike1> HiJacker: Eu necessito trabalhar nos portugues mas eu não tenho o tempo
23:04 < esden> argh ... my grandma is crying around that I should get to bed ... >_<
23:04 < HiJacker> Mike1: Cara, se vc trabalhar com o portugues vai ser mair sucesso !!!
23:04 < Mike1> zer0_o: sure feel free to ask
23:04 < HiJacker> Mike1: Cara, se vc trabalhar com o portugues vai ser maior sucesso !!!
23:05 < Mike1> HiJacker: sim eu sei, talvez você gostaria de ajudar-me?
23:05 < HiJacker> Vou sair mais amanha volto !!!!
23:05 < esden> ok guys ... have a nicke evening day morning whatever ...
23:05 < esden> cu tomorrow ;-0
23:06 < HiJacker> Mike1: De uma olhada no seu pvt !!!!
23:06 < HiJacker> Mike1: Recebeu o e-mail aë ???
23:07 < HiJacker> Mike1: ???
23:07 < HiJacker> Mike1: ???
23:07 < Mike1> email mim quando você tiver o tempo mike@rocklinux.org
23:07 < tsa> Anthony's Law of Force:
23:07 < tsa> Don't force it; get a larger hammer.
23:07 < tsa> hehe
23:07 < HiJacker> Mike1: Eu mandei o meu para vocë !!!!
23:07 < esden> hehe !!!
23:07 < esden> lool
23:07 < rxr> hi tsa
23:07 < rxr> hi esden
23:07 < esden> hi tsa
23:07 < tsa> hi rxr
23:07 < Mike1> Eu sou um colaborador do rock linux
23:07 < esden> and goodnigt
23:07 < esden> hi rxr too ;-)
23:07 < esden> and goodnight rxr
23:08 < esden> *GG*
23:08 < HiJacker> Mike1: hijacker-br@gmx.net
23:08 < Mike1> HiJacker: aprovação era agradável encontrar-se com o
23:08 < esden> a gmx guy ... hrrm ... ;-)
23:08 < HiJacker> Mike1: Vai dá certo sim, amanhá volto !!!
23:08 < esden> he is crying a lot ;-)
23:09 < Mike1> HiJacker: email da vontade da aprovação i você
23:09 < esden> ok I am off
23:09 < Mike1> see you esden
23:09 < HiJacker> Mike1: Entro em contato com vc em breve !!!
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23:11 < rolla> what was that all about ?
23:11 < Mike1> lol
23:12 < Mike1> a guy frim brazil asking some stuff about rock
23:13 < zer0_o> mike, it's the same problem as i had yesterday
23:13 < Mike1> Jetzt gehe ich zurück zu Englisch
23:13 < Mike1> zer0_o: sorry what was the problem?
23:13 < zer0_o> with the lilo-"01"-loop problem =(
23:14 < Mike1> ah yeah
23:14 < Mike1> i had the same problem previously due installed rock on a slave drive
23:15 < Mike1> zer0_o: actually twice
23:15 < huebi> zer0_o: As i said: flood your lilo.conf on #AOL
23:15 < Mike1> one was fixed by chaging it to master and editing /etc/fstab
23:15 < Mike1> the other i was so tired so simply once i had it as master i reinstalled the whole thing
23:16 < Mike1> zer0_o: ok i am in #aol
23:16 < huebi> zer0_o: No flood - no help ;-)
23:16 < Mike1> hehe
23:17 < Mike1> BTW wheew its been long time not talking portuguess guess i will have to get back to practice
23:17 < zer0_o> huebi =P
23:17 < zer0_o> man... keep serious ;)
23:17 < zer0_o> =P
23:18 < Mike1> zer0_o: btw just one question did you install it on a ext2 partition?
23:18 < zer0_o> yes i did
23:19 < zer0_o> why ?
23:20 < Mike1> just trying to look for all posible problems :)
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23:25 < tsa> CChheecckk yyoouurr dduupplleexx sswwiittcchh..
23:25 < tsa> lol
23:26 < Mike1> haha
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23:30 < tsa> re owly
23:30 -!- the][owl [~mail-spam@B50b6.pppool.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
23:30 < Mike1> tsa hehe
23:34 < huebi> good night.
23:34 < tsa> cu huebi
23:34 < huebi> cu tsa
23:34 < huebi> wech....
23:35 < rxr> tsa: still here ?
23:35 < tsa> yes.
23:35 < tsa> sure
23:35 < rxr> do you have the latest Slowlaris ?
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23:36 < tsa> no, i don't i got an old copy of solaris8 somewhere, but it was one of the early sol8 releases..
23:36 < tsa> re owly
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23:37 < rxr> ah ok
23:37 < rxr> :-(
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23:38 < owl> re
23:39 < owl> uff... i remarked that i have fever. i 'm not able to use nickserv in less than 10 minutes... *grml*
23:39 < Mike1> rxr: you need solaris 9?
23:40 < rxr> Mike1: it would be nice to have ...
23:47 * zer0_o opens wide eyes and screams .. i get crazy ;)
23:55 < rxr> zer0_o: hm?
23:56 < zer0_o> some problems with installing lilo
23:56 < zer0_o> =|
23:58 < rxr> ah
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