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--- Log opened Sat Sep 14 00:00:14 2002
--- Day changed Sat Sep 14 2002
00:01 < litost> re Mike1
00:01 < Mike1> hi litost
00:01 < Mike1> :)
00:02 * litost was in a power trip of writing replies to rude emails :)
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00:20 < Mike1> ok guys i leave you now
00:20 < Mike1> talk to you tomorrow
00:20 < Mike1> bye
00:20 < d3mian> cya Mike1
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00:34 < rxr> WOW
00:34 < rxr> Most Gnome2 stuff now compiles in my rxr tree again ;-)
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01:51 < tsa> n8
01:51 < tsa> *gaehn*
01:51 < d3mian> cya tsa
01:51 < tsa> cu d3mian
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02:46 < d3mian> brb
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04:44 < huebi> moin
04:47 < d3mian> hi huebi
04:50 < huebi> moin d3mian
04:53 < huebi> d3mian: can you upload your new Check script to ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/upload ?
04:54 < d3mian> umm
04:54 < d3mian> gimme a second then
04:56 < huebi> brb
04:58 < d3mian> done
04:58 < d3mian> umm, nice songs of cannival corpse
04:58 < d3mian> well, cya later. have to sleep
05:04 < huebi> re
05:04 < huebi> cu d3mian
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06:33 < defbla> re
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09:45 < huebi> MoeP!
09:48 * huebi just found a huge security hole at a company here around. I'll see if I get a new contract with them to solve that proplem ;-)
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09:58 < tomik> hell o
10:02 < zer0_o> lo
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10:34 < Be-El> hi ppl
10:39 < huebi> moin Be-El
10:39 < Be-El> ah ! doch schon jemand wach
10:39 < huebi> ;-)
10:40 < Be-El> building alsa in stage 5 fails
10:40 < Be-El> there's a missing " in the .conf file
10:40 < Be-El> line 31
10:41 < huebi> moment
10:41 < huebi> booting....
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10:41 < huebi> moin thalerim
10:42 < tcr> moin all
10:42 < tcr> https://freebits.de/showsecurity.php?id=329
10:43 < Be-El> moin tcr
10:47 < Be-El> *hmpf* jetzt scheitert er an den alsa-libs
10:52 < tcr> moin huebi, Be-El;
10:53 < tcr> huebi: i often encounter problems with gpm. How is it compiled?
10:54 < tcr> huebi: it works fine, but if it should work with programms that have explicit gpm support (e.g. mc's --with-gpm-mouse) i get *always* a segsv
10:54 < tcr> with twin it's the same..
10:55 < tcr> huebi: mompl. i'll compile mc new to show you the error message
10:57 < tcr> it'll will take a while on my p200 ;)
10:57 < Be-El> anyone got problem building alsa ?
10:58 < tcr> huebi: btw. i've tried the mc-rockpkg first, but it fails on loading a dyn. lib; this lib is in the xfree86 package.. this makes me quite confusing...
10:58 < tcr> Be-El: sorry, i'm still using OSS
10:59 < Be-El> tcr: it's not about using, it's about building
10:59 < tcr> i don't use it, why should i compile it then? ;)
11:00 < Be-El> ok, that's a point
11:01 < tcr> phone
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11:06 < theogenis> huebi: are you here at all?
11:06 < theogenis> huebi: here is the message anyway:
11:07 < theogenis> info: [/rock-linux/src/gpm-1.20.0/src/liblow.c(446)]: Warning: closing connection
11:07 < theogenis> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
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11:09 < huebi> re MoeP!
11:11 < huebi> The build of 1.5.19 compiles from stage 1 to 3 without any problems here.
11:12 < huebi> This is a must for a new release.
11:14 < tcr> what's about gpm? could you verify my problems in getting the sources of mc and compile it by your own?
11:15 < huebi> tcr: What exactly do you want me to do?
11:16 < tcr> downloading the sources and doing the following the src-dir: mkdir temp; ./configure --with-gpm-mouse --prefix=<absolute path to current dir>/temp; make; make install; ./temp/bin/mc
11:17 < tcr> it seems that either gpm wasn't compiled properly in the 1.5.18iso or even that it doesn't compile properly always.
11:17 < huebi> ok....
11:17 < huebi> root@zeus:/rock-linux/src # tar -xvIf ../base-archive/gpm/gpm-1.20.0.tar.bz2
11:18 < tcr> iirc i had the same problems in 1.5.12 as well....
11:20 < huebi> root@zeus:/rock-linux/src # tar -xvIf ../base-archive/mc/mc-4.5.55.tar.bz2
11:20 < huebi> root@zeus:/rock-linux/src # ./configure --with-gpm-mouse --prefix=/rock-linux/src/temp
11:21 < huebi> root@zeus:/rock-linux/src/mc-4.5.55 # ./configure --with-gpm-mouse --prefix=/rock-linux/src/temp
11:21 < tcr> here i have mc-4.6.0-pre1
11:21 < tcr> but shouldn't care
11:21 < tcr> s,care,matter,
11:22 < Be-El> bbl
11:24 < huebi> root@zeus:/rock-linux/src/mc-4.5.55 # ../temp/bin/mc
11:24 < huebi> no problem! ;-)
11:24 < tcr> hm.
11:25 < tcr> mouse is usable?
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11:26 < huebi> tcr: YES!
11:26 < tcr> hmmmmmm
11:27 < tcr> huebi: did you do anything on the gpm sources in the last days?
11:29 < huebi> tcr: Fell free to ask the webcvs oracle. *g*
11:29 < huebi> feel even
11:29 < huebi> brb. reboot
11:29 < huebi> to 1.5.19
11:30 < tcr> url?
11:38 < huebi> tcr: iso.rocklinux.de
11:38 < huebi> mc works perfect
11:39 < tcr> from sources or rockpkg?
11:40 < tcr> scroll above, i said something about the rockpkg
11:40 < huebi> tcr: ROCK Linux is a source based distribution... ;-)
11:41 < tcr> 10:54:08
11:41 < tcr> 10:58:45
11:41 < huebi> hmm
11:41 < huebi> nochmal...
11:41 < tcr> lol
11:41 < tcr> 10:58:06
11:41 < tcr> so!
11:48 < huebi> tcr: What the hell are you doing? ;-) All is perfect here. Could you stop overclocking your mouse, please?
11:49 < esden> hi all
11:49 < huebi> moin esden
11:50 < huebi> https://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/ <- all changes are in here.
11:51 < esden> huebi: how is your back ?
11:51 < esden> still aking ?
11:51 < huebi> esden: Almost fine again ;-))))
11:52 < esden> huebi: that is very good. I hope your back will be _fine_ not almost fine soon ...
11:53 < esden> what is wrong with clifford ? he created a 1.7 cvs repository ... 
11:53 < esden> my realyty has coruppted because of that and I had to reboot my universe ... once again ... >_<
11:53 < esden> fscking unstable universe software ... 
11:55 < tcr> huebi: i'm doing nothing, and i haven't been doing anything.
11:56 < huebi> tcr: did you try to reboot your universe?
11:56 < tcr> root@internet # shutdown -r now
11:57 < huebi> hehe
11:57 < tcr> root@internet # killall huebi
11:58 < esden> killall rocklinuxdeveldaemon
11:58 * huebi still needs to add cowsay to ROCK Linux
11:59 < esden> huebi: that is called mathildasay ! please ...
11:59 < esden> or rockmascotsay ...
12:00 < huebi> esden: just 'mathilda' would be good, too.
12:00 < esden> yes right
12:00 < esden> everyone knows what it is ;-)
12:00 < rxr> esden: Cliff and I decided that rsync doesn't scale ...
12:01 < tcr> mh
12:01 < esden> hm
12:01 < tcr> we could create a fortune db with funny mathilda sentences and write into the /etc/profile or so
12:02 < esden> tcr: so instead talking about it do it .... ;-)
12:03 < tcr> or we could change the kernel ooops smiley with a mathilda in the rock install shell
12:03 < tcr> brb!
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12:10 < huebi> bbl
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12:16 < term_emu> morgen
12:18 < esden> tcr: we had this idea also some time ago ... but noone had time/will to implement it ...
12:18 < esden> hi term_emu 
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12:31 < blindcoder> hi all
12:32 * blindcoder _finally_ found the error in his QoS Config
12:33 < esden> re
12:33 < esden> hi blindcoder 
12:33 < blindcoder> hi esden :)
12:33 < esden> old broadcaster ... >_<
12:33 < tomik> :)
12:33 < blindcoder> hehe
12:34 < blindcoder> at least I can use ssh now again when the FTP is killing the upstream :)
12:34 < esden> how is your .bashrc blindcoder ?
12:34 < tomik> blindcoder: yeah :)
12:34 < blindcoder> hehe nice :) @esden
12:34 < esden> good ;-)
12:35 < blindcoder> tomik: if you have a box that acts as a router, but apply QoS only to the INPUT and OUTPUT chains (not the FORWARD chain) then it's no fun at all >_<
12:35 < esden> hehe ... looooool
12:35 < esden> blindcoder: DU PFUSCHER (wuerde 30 sagen ;-) )
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12:36 < blindcoder> esden: I'm currently re-outfitting https://scavenger.homeip.net based upon the black-theme of bChat :)
12:36 < esden> ohh cool ... wanna see
12:36 < blindcoder> esden: after I tel him the difference between INPUT/OUPUT and FORWARD he would, yes :)
12:36 < blindcoder> https://scavenger.homeip.net/neuesdesign/
12:37 < esden> blindcoder: loool ... du dieeeeeeb ;-)
12:38 < blindcoder> hehe
12:38 < blindcoder> hmm
12:38 < blindcoder> that openssl vulnerability... does that only affect apache or anything using openssl?
12:38 < blindcoder> (too lazy to read :)
12:40 < tomik> blindcoder: :)))
12:40 * -> esden too ...
12:41 * -> esden updated the lib ... 
12:41 < snyke> hi esden
12:41 < esden> but it is affecting all what is using libssl
12:41 < esden> but the worm that is now crusing around is for apache-ssl ...
12:42 < esden> so apache is most importaint
12:42 < blindcoder> hmm i don't have ssl in my apache...
12:44 < blindcoder> for x in `ls /etc/init.d/`; do $x stop; sleep 1; $x start; done
12:44 < esden> ok ... I will be back this evening ...
12:44 < blindcoder> okay, see ya
12:53 < tcr> esden?
12:53 < tcr> damn
12:54 < tcr> esden: my new signature: https://freebits.de/trash/sonstiges/mathilda-sig.txt
12:56 < blindcoder> *lol*
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12:57 < martin_> hi all
12:57 < martin_> hi rxr
12:57 < tcr> blindcoder: it's published under the laws of the GPL ;)
12:58 < tomik> it's her head?
12:58 < blindcoder> hmm... my .sig is becoming larger than most of my mails >_<
12:58 < tomik> blindcoder: xe, i know it
12:59 < tcr> i should add a "Wanna become one as well? Join #rocklinux (OPN)!"
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13:17 < netcrow> hi
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13:39 < kvak|uninvited> cd /hi/all
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14:45 < praenti> hi
14:45 < blindcoder> hi praenti
14:45 < blindcoder> got my mail from yesterday?
14:47 < praenti> blindcoder: yes. but i dont know any solution. i will ask the next days in the lists, because i want to read my mail over ssh and mutt is the best for that
14:48 < blindcoder> that would be nice :)
14:48 < praenti> ok. im away for a few minutes
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15:11 < praenti> re
15:14 < praenti> blindcoder: btw. i've a new gpg-key. you can find it on the keyserver
15:14 < praenti> fingerprint: 0A86 E8C9 399B F0D4 B637  A24C EB4A 9E6A 6912 AF2D
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15:15 < blindcoder> which keyserver?
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15:16 < praenti> x-hkp://pgp.mit.edu
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15:26 < blindcoder> I'm gonna kill that gpg
15:27 < praenti> ?
15:27 < praenti> whats wrong with your gpg
15:28 < blindcoder> gpg --keyserver x-hkp://pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys USER_ID
15:28 < blindcoder> he doesn't accept ANY format of the User ID
15:29 < praenti> blindcoder: do gpg --keyserver x-hkp://pgp.mit.edu --search-key "MIchael Obster"
15:29 < praenti> s/I/i
15:30 < blindcoder> invalid option: --search-key
15:30 < praenti> mom. then USER_ID=6912AF2D
15:31 < praenti> blindcoder: you have the same old version as aszlig
15:31 < blindcoder> yes, finally that worked
15:31 < blindcoder> it's apollo
15:32 < praenti> ahh
15:32 < blindcoder> *trying at home*
15:33 < blindcoder> hmm... we should update gpg at apollo...
15:38 * blindcoder now building ROCK for AMD K-6
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15:51 < [anders]> moin
15:53 * [anders] is going through and purging public keys from the gpg keyring. Lots and lots of keys I didn't really want to have hanging around at a second thought...
15:53 < [anders]> if anyone is thinking about removing about 5,500 keys from the keyring, bewarned, it takes a bloody long time..
16:06 < huebi> moin [anders] ;-)
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16:07 < huebi> tach ripclaw
16:07 < ripclaw> hi huebi !
16:08 < ripclaw> hab da ein problem - mit i486 optimierung kippt perl in stage 2 - errorlog folgt
16:08 < ripclaw> (sobald der compile fertig ist)
16:09 < ripclaw> i386 ist knap 3 tage durchgelaufen.
16:09 < bluefire> ripclaw: hoi
16:09 < ripclaw> hi bluefire.
16:09 < ripclaw> was geht heut abend ?
16:10 < bluefire> ripclaw: Heroes 4 zocken. Multiplayer Patch ist endlich da.
16:10 < ripclaw> aha !
16:10 < praenti> ripclaw: wie alt?
16:10 < ripclaw> heroes of m&m ?
16:10 < bluefire> ripclaw: yep
16:10 < ripclaw> cool. hab mir sven bomwollen geholt...
16:10 < praenti> ripclaw: perl braucht nämlich ein make -j1
16:10 < ripclaw> praenti ???????
16:10 < bluefire> ripclaw: das Spiel mit dem Schaaf?
16:11 < ripclaw> bluefire - yeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzz
16:11 < praenti> is erst vor ein paar tagen anscheinend gefixed worden.
16:11 < ripclaw> praenti: 1.5.19 release.
16:12 * bluefire weiter Gtk debuggen
16:12 < ripclaw> ich teste grad huebi`s build fuer i?86, und dann fuer crosscompile
16:12 < ripclaw> bluefire - richtige annahme, das du heut abend kein bruch oder so willst ?
16:13 < bluefire> ripclaw: bin etwas knapp bei Kasse. Im Bruch tendier ich immer zu stark Richtung Cocktailbar.
16:14 < bluefire> ripclaw: Außerdem müssen wir jetzt diesen Multiplayer Patch testen ;o)
16:14 < bluefire> ripclaw: gehst du?
16:15 < ripclaw> bluefire -warscheinlich - muss aber evtl. sandra wieder etwas aufbauen, die ist doch etwas sehr neber der kapp gewesen gestern.
16:16 < bluefire> Naja. Ich wüsch dir auf alle Fälle mal viel Spaß.
16:16 < ripclaw> werd ich, garantiert.
16:16 < ripclaw> noch ne frage, richard -
16:17 < ripclaw> wie werd ich im sendmuell den hostnamen im sendername los ?
16:17 < bluefire> ripclaw: schieß los
16:17 < bluefire> ripclaw: sendmuell gehört in die Tonne
16:17 < bluefire> ripclaw: hab ich auch keine Ahnung. Ich  benutz exim
16:17 < ripclaw> sorry, kann ich auf der box nicht anders, sonst waere das problem schon laengst gepostfixed, qmailed und zmailed.
16:18 < ripclaw> hasse den mist auch.
16:18 < ripclaw> har har - eis ist gekommen, muss wohl gleich mal was schlecken gehen :)
16:18 < bluefire> ripclaw: wie gesagt: keine Ahnung.
16:18 < ripclaw> bluefire wann zocken wir mal wieder SR ?
16:19 * bluefire hat grade Steak mittagrefuttert
16:19 * ripclaw hat ewig kein sr mehr gezockt
16:19 < bluefire> ripclaw: fallst du Ingo im Bruch triffst, sag ich mal nen schönen Gruß.
16:19 < ripclaw> mach ich. hast du seine phone schon ?
16:20 < bluefire> ripclaw: hmm... wir wollten eher mal wieder D&D spielen (ich werd leiten)... weiß aber noch nicht wann (deswegen muß ich auch Ingo noch anrufen)
16:20 < bluefire> ripclaw: yep, hab ich.
16:20 < ripclaw> ok. wenn dund bessere wuerfelsystem als adund hat, bin ich dabei, an sonsten moege wer anders meinen charsheet und wuerfel 0wn3n.
16:21 < bluefire> ripclaw: DnD 3rd edition hat ein recht brauchbares System. Außerdem ist das System eh nur Hilfe zum Spaß und nicht für Regelfurzereien gedacht.
16:22 < ripclaw> bluefire - is mir klar, aber adund regelsystem lernst du auswendig oder ignorierst das game. wenn 3rd ed ok ist, schau ichs mir gerne an.
16:23 < bluefire> ripclaw: Dominik hat noch 2 Leute an der Angel, von denen hab ich aber noch nix gehört. Wenn Grimmley also wieder aus Griechenland da ist dann kommen wir mal in die Gänge.
16:23 < ripclaw> sodele - muss mal eis essen gehen
16:23 < bluefire> ripclaw: Regelwerk gibts auf [insert-your-favourite-p2p-network-here]
16:23 < huebi> cu ripclaw
16:23 < ripclaw> wenn gremlin wieder da ist, und ihr spielen wollt, meld dich mal bei mir, ich bin dabei, zumindest wenns ums testen geht.
16:23 < ripclaw> cu
16:23 < bluefire> ripclaw: getestet hammer schon
16:23 * ripclaw is away having and ICE.
16:24 < ripclaw> ich abber noch net :)
16:24 < bluefire> ripclaw: bei grimley spielen wir schon 3rd edition
16:24 < bluefire> Naja... Mahlzeit ;o)
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17:06 * ripclaw is back
17:07 < ripclaw> kannmer mal anschauen, bluefire.
17:25 < [anders]> moin huebi.. :)
17:25 < [anders]> yo ripclaw.. :) wie gehts?
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17:37 * [anders] is having hardware problems in the box at home at the moment.. the internal ethernet doesn't work..
17:37 < [anders]> So I am getting a new PCI ethernet card to replace the internal one..
17:38 < [anders]> https://dabs.com/1YH9WS
17:39 < esden> re hi all
17:39 < [anders]> moin esden.how are you today?
17:39 < esden> ok ... next chunk of Config help ready ...
17:40 < esden> now we have config.hlp files to store help ... just like in the linux kernel ;-)
17:40 < esden> it is fun to fight with sed magic ;-)
17:41 < [anders]> esden: not particularly but we'll let you off.. ;-)
17:41 < esden> [anders]: I am fine thanks. and you ?
17:42 < esden> [anders]: sorry i do not understand your last post ... :-(
17:42 < [anders]> esden: apart from hardware problems and tedious hacking of gpg keyrings, not so bad.. :)
17:42 < [anders]> <esden> it is fun to fight with sed magic ;-)
17:42 < [anders]> <[anders]> esden: not particularly but we'll let you off.. ;-)
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17:43 < [anders]> esden: I was referencing 'fun' and 'sed' being used in a sentence at once.. :)
17:43 < esden> sed is fun ... for me at least ...
17:43 < esden> because it is so .... 
17:43 < [anders]> hmm.. nah.. :)
17:44 < esden> brainkilling ... ;-)
17:44 < [anders]> I'd drink to that.. :) sed and awk might be useful, but they are not simple. LISP would be worse though..
17:46 < esden> yes they are not simple ... but with enough of time investment, reading, trying and working with it gets simpler and usefull ...
17:47 < esden> I think that it would be much more a mess if I had to use pure bash scripting for some things ... like the extraction of help out of the config.hlp files 
17:48 < esden> I have not tryed LISP till now ... 
17:48 < esden> and since I have no use for it I do not try it ...
17:49 * -> esden needs clifford !
17:51 < rxr> re
17:51 < esden> re rxr 
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17:53 < owl> hi
17:53 < snyke> hi esden
17:53 < owl> hi snyke, esden
17:54 < esden> hi owl 
17:54 < esden> hi snyke 
17:54 < esden> or better re snyke 
17:55 < snyke> jo
18:00 * -> esden needs the phone number from clifford !
18:00 < esden> I mean of his cellphone so I can send an sms
18:04 < rxr> esden: the number was in some "I'm away holiday" mails on the list ...
18:04 < blindcoder> re esden
18:04 < blindcoder> hi owl
18:04 < owl> hi blindcoder
18:05 < blindcoder> hi rest :-)
18:05 < blindcoder> esden: the new design is ready, havwe a look https://scavenger.homeip.net
18:06 < esden> blindcoder: re hi ... kk will do when I got some cliff ... >_<
18:06 < blindcoder> *g*
18:07 < owl> esden: relax ;P
18:07 < esden> puhhh ... I do not need any cliff ... all updates I need are in cvs ... 
18:08 < blindcoder> hehe
18:08 < blindcoder> esden: btw.: I didn't want the completed builds of kterm and xjdic but the base-config/ files that are in one of the two rock-src tarballs
18:17 < esden> ohh ... ok ... sorry .... I do it in some minutes
18:17 < esden> when I sent the diff to cliff
18:17 < blindcoder> sure :-)
18:28 < esden> ok ... patch is out of house ... let me see what I have for you crash ...
18:28 * blindcoder invoking perl-coding skills...
18:28 * blindcoder : ERROR: /usr/local/skills/perl/*: File not found
18:30 < esden> blindcoder: sorry ... I left the cd at home ... >_<
18:30 < blindcoder> home @in?
18:31 < esden> no home @w-wa
18:31 < blindcoder> okay, then please remember it next time
18:31 < esden> kk will do ...
18:32 < blindcoder> thanks :))
18:32 < esden> denada
18:32 * -> esden needs something femail and pretty to hug ...
18:33 < esden> this comps are so ... unsoft ... and unhugable
18:34 < owl> esden: *lol* computers are sweet ;) what else do you need, if you have a PC?
18:38 < blindcoder> okay, the parsing algorythm is done... now for the difficult part...
18:39 < owl> blindcoder, esden: do you know where i can buy UDP and patch cables in IN or MUC? (as cheap as possible of course)
18:41 < esden> blindcoder: ehhmm ... what are you doing ?
18:42 < esden> owl: every computer store ... ? but cheap ... ?
18:42 < esden> no idea
18:42 < owl> esden: of course. but the point was _cheap_ ;)
18:42 < blindcoder> esden: I'm writing a log-parser for my proftpd to get listings when what user did down/upload which file
18:44 < esden> blindcoder: fine ... ... you say on your page : "too lazy to code a complete board..." 
18:44 < esden> what about bboard ?
18:44 < esden> *fg*
18:44 < esden> you already wrote a board ...
18:44 < blindcoder> I'd have to crack it out of bchat first... nah...
18:45 < esden> and you can also take ... how is it called .... YABB ?
18:45 < blindcoder> *UARGH*
18:45 < blindcoder> I haven't found A SINGLE USABLE BB out there
18:46 < esden> urgh ... it seems that you are neary as critical about software as I am ... 
18:47 < esden> blindcoder: I what do you think about splitting a bit the list of your films ?
18:48 < blindcoder> what do you mean?
18:49 < blindcoder> esden: let's say it this way: each and every of the boards out there use cookies.. that is simply bad or very lazy design
18:49 < blindcoder> not to mention a big source of errors
18:50 < esden> blindcoder: https://scavenger.homeip.net/board.php
18:51 < esden> blindcoder: ok ... that is an argument ...
18:52 < blindcoder> no, what do you mean with splitting?
18:52 < esden> do something so that the list is not so long ... like create directorys ...
18:53 < esden> or so
18:53 < esden> this makes the site very big ... and a mess for modem users ... ;-)
18:53 < blindcoder> grouping... a directory --> a link --> the contents
18:53 < esden> somithing like that ...
18:54 < esden> group it a bit in  avi mp3 img ... 
18:54 < esden> that would make it much better
18:54 < blindcoder> hmm... I'll have a look at it
18:54 < esden> or in other way
18:54 < esden> blindcoder: have you seen the board ?
18:55 < blindcoder> I've got a mail with your post :-)
18:55 < esden> aaaha ... lool
18:55 < esden> cheater ;-)
18:56 < blindcoder> hehe :-)
18:56 < blindcoder> didn't you wonder why there is NO E-Mail-Address in the whole site?
18:56 < esden> lamer ... gamer ... cheater !! *gg*
18:56 < esden> because you do not like spam ;-)
18:56 < blindcoder> and proud to be :-)
18:57 < esden> yes sure ... I know that ...
18:57 < esden> *lol*
18:57 < blindcoder> btw, you can now contact me at blindcoder at scavenger dot homeip dot net
18:58 < esden> uii ... sweet 
18:58 < esden> have you moved your mails to scavenger ?
18:58 < blindcoder> not yet
18:58 < blindcoder> I need to know if it's possible to read mails with mozilla AND mutt
18:58 < blindcoder> brb
18:59 < esden> kk
19:11 < blindcoder> ew
19:11 < blindcoder> re
19:11 < esden> roe
19:14 < blindcoder> ah damnit
19:15 < blindcoder> I can trash a whole weeks' log-file because there isn't enough information in it
19:17 < esden> hmm ... blindcoder ... see it this way ... you are a looser ... but I love you anyways ;-)
19:19 < blindcoder> aah ... thank you *hugs esden*
19:20 < blindcoder> at least you believe me now that I really _AM_ a loose :)
19:20 < esden> in some situations you are ... but you are a coden ... not a user .. damn it !!!
19:21 < blindcoder> damnit... I thought finally you would believe me :)
19:23 < esden> hmm ... nobody from bingo should see https://netcrow.by-infonet.de/sys/index.php
19:23 < blindcoder> ?
19:24 < blindcoder> *click*Ü
19:24 < blindcoder> WHAT'S WITH THE MEMORY???
19:25 < huebi> re
19:25 < esden> blindcoder: no idea ...
19:25 < blindcoder> hi huebi
19:25 < esden> we need more memory ... @crash
19:25 < esden> ;-)
19:25 < blindcoder> hmm seems like it's mysql....
19:25 < huebi> hi blindcoder
19:25 < blindcoder> yes, we realy do :)
19:25 < huebi> hi esden
19:26 < esden> hi huebi 
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19:26 < esden> blindcoder: bug bingo about it ...
19:27 < blindcoder> eeh... you read aktive-mailinliste lately?
19:27 < esden> hehe ... they will really be happy about that ;-)
19:27 < esden> blindcoder: YES I HAVE ;-)
19:27 < esden> that is why I say it ;-)
19:27 < blindcoder> I do NOT think they will grant us another ECC-RAM...
19:27 < blindcoder> I will bug florian personally about it :)
19:28 < tcr> re all
19:28 < blindcoder> er tcr
19:28 < blindcoder> re
19:28 < esden> blindcoder: yes ... 
19:28 < esden> *lol
19:28 < esden> re tcr 
19:28 < tcr> esden: https://freebits.de/trash/sonstiges/mathilda-sig.txt
19:30 < tcr> esden: my new sig.. but feel free to use ;-)
19:30 < esden> yes I have seen it already ...
19:30 < esden> It is really cool
19:30 < esden> I need to change my sig I think ;-)
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19:34 < owl> re
19:34 < blindcoder> re owl
19:35 < blindcoder> will I ever get used to byRef-calls in Perl? *sic*
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19:40 < esden> ok ... my time is over
19:40 < esden> cu all
19:40 < tcr> mom!
19:41 < tcr> geh nochmal auf die seite
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19:41 < huebi> cu esden
19:41 < owl> bye esden
19:41 < owl> hi huebi
19:41 < esden> ???
19:41 < huebi> tach owl
19:41 < esden> tcr: ???
19:42 < tcr> *g*
19:42 < huebi> 19:28 < tcr> esden: https://freebits.de/trash/sonstiges/mathilda-sig.txt
19:43 < tcr> nevermind, cu esden
19:43 < esden> and what has changed ?
19:43 < esden> hmm ... 
19:43 < esden> ok ...
19:43 < tcr> huh
19:44 < tcr> fscking cache :P
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19:44 < esden> ahh ... kk
19:44 < esden> now I see
19:44 < esden> cool ;-)
19:44 < esden> cu all
19:44 < tcr> just bored
19:44 * tcr is listening to Eisregen - Meine tote russische Freundin
19:44 < esden> *rofl*
19:45 < esden> tcr: bored ? do something productive: ROCK Linux
19:45 < esden> cu ... 
19:45 < tcr> exactly :P cu
19:45 < blindcoder> so that's what you call productive :)
19:46 < tcr> hmm i have to burn a CD now
19:46 < tcr> blindcoder: even going to the toilet could be quite productive 8)
19:47 < blindcoder> okay :)
19:48 < tcr> mh did anyone watch Dune yesterday?
19:48 < tcr> in fact it's the second time i was watching it and i don't get it again... what a fscking regie
19:49 < tcr> i only know something about the story, 'cause i played the PC game quite often...
19:50 < tcr> mhmmmmm the good old games... much better than every new developed game.
19:50 < blindcoder> hehe
19:50 * blindcoder currently playing serfcity 1 ;)
19:50 < tcr> what's that?
19:51 * tcr is missing games where the concept and the game itself is in focus instead of the engine... :''-(
19:53 < blindcoder> it's a build-your-world-with-your-people-and-smash-everyone-else-game
19:54 < blindcoder> in german it's "Die Siedler"
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20:00 < blindcoder> hi tsa
20:00 < tsa> hi blindcoder
20:00 < owl> hi tsa
20:00 < tsa> huhu owly.
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20:31 < d3mian> hi
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20:38 < tsa> hi d3mian
20:42 < blindcoder> okay, I'm away again... bye bye
20:43 < tsa> cu blindcoder
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20:47 < owl> re
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20:55 < d3mian> cya blindcoder , hi owl
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21:00 < d3mian> cya
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21:07 < esden> re hi all
21:07 < esden> ;-)
21:07 < huebi> re esden
21:07 < tsa> huhu esden
21:07 < huebi> moin tsa
21:07 < tsa> hi huebi
21:07 < tsa> ..ich wart' da noch auf ne Rechnung.. ;-)
21:07 < huebi> tsa: Jo, leider ...
21:08 < tsa> wie kommt's?
21:09 < tsa> hm....irgendwer mathematisch begabt hier? Was ist der Unterschied zwischen einem euklidischen und einem unitaeren Vektorraum?
21:09 < huebi> krankt. morgen ist Wohnungsuebergabe fuer's neue Buero, uebermorgen einziehen...
21:09 < tsa> hm...achso..
21:10 * huebi probiert gleich mal das Drucken...
21:12 < huebi> tsa: Bist du sendmail god?
21:12 < tsa> Subject: CERT Advisory CA-2002-27 Apache/mod_ssl Worm
21:12 < tsa> huebi: was hast du vor?
21:12 < huebi> tsa: email auch mal zuhause machen. nicht immer nur remote per ssh
21:12 < huebi> tsa: openssl ist jetzt auf ella erneuert
21:12 < tsa> huebi: die rock sendmail-packages laufen eigentlich aus der tuete... ;-)
21:13 < tsa> oder suchst du noch irgendein spezielles feature?
21:16 < huebi> tsa: Ich habe bisher immer die sendmail.cf von Hand angepasst. Vielleicht will ich etwas besonderes, ich weiss es aber noch nicht.
21:16 < tsa> huebi: hehe, die Einstellung gefaellt mir...ich komm mit der .mc auch nicht klar und bau immer direkt in der .cf rum.. ;-)
21:16 < huebi> huebi@thor:~ $ telnet ella 22
21:16 < huebi> Trying 192.168.100.254...
21:16 < huebi> Connected to ella.seeheim.lan.
21:16 < huebi> Escape character is '^]'.
21:16 < huebi> SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_3.4p1
21:17 < huebi> YES!.
21:17 < huebi> ohne reboot.
21:17 < d3mian> sth more...!
21:17 < huebi> aber mit neuen /etc/init.d/sshd
21:17 < d3mian> does 1.5.19 brings gnome2 ?
21:18 < huebi> d3mian: Not yet. I'll have to test it next week. Then I decide to put it in base or in ext.
21:18 < tcr> allah?
21:18 < tcr> lol
21:18 < tsa> yes?
21:19 < d3mian> i think u can include both, last gnome version and gnome2 (first one in base and second in ext)
21:19 < tcr> i've read alla instead of ella
21:19 < d3mian> now, bye
21:19 < huebi> cu d3mian
21:19 < tsa> tcr: terrorists everywhere in these days.. ;-))
21:19 < tsa> cu d3mian
21:21 < d3mian>  [ ankara ] ~ > ls /dev/mi*
21:21 < d3mian> /dev/midi00  /dev/midi01  /dev/midi02  /dev/midi03  /dev/mixer  /dev/mixer1
21:21 < d3mian>  [ ankara ] ~ >
21:21 < d3mian> sorry
21:22 < tsa> no problem..
21:26 < huebi> BTW: use shred to wipe your old disks before you through them away. I got a nice disk with very sensible data of a company here around. A friend found it on the junk yard and gave it to me. At least encryption for senible data is needed.
21:28 < esden> puhh .. patch sent
21:29 < huebi> esden: did you do sth on Build-All
21:29 < huebi> ?
21:29 < esden> no sorry .. I have not enough space for 1.5 sources .... and to test the build ...
21:29 < esden> I will be able to do it when I am back in ingolstadt >_<
21:30 * -> esden now off to implement multilingual scripts/Config .. ;-)
21:30 < esden> and add some more packets to esden ... 
21:31 < esden> pinfo already added
21:31 < esden> ok ... cu all I am off again
21:32 < tsa> cu esden, have fun..
21:32 < huebi> cu esden
21:35 < owl> cu esden
21:35 < term_emu> cu all
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22:21 < huebi> brb.
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23:18 < huebi> re
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23:59 < owl> g8.cu
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