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--- Log opened Thu Sep 19 00:00:43 2002
--- Day changed Thu Sep 19 2002
00:11 < praenti> tsa: you are not the only one. i also have problems with the iproute2 stuff. even it is very flexible and powerful
00:11 < praenti> huebi: still awake=
00:11 < praenti> s/=/?
00:11 < th> problems with iproute2? i can't even compile it ;)
00:13 < praenti> th: is it so difficult to compile it?
00:13 < th> praenti: 2.2.20 kernel
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00:14 < th> praenti: jsut fails due to some `ARPHRD_ATM' undeclared (first use in this function)
00:14 < [anders]> meep.. /me off to bed now.. :)
00:14 * Mike1 is away: at Uni
00:14 < praenti> th: iproute2 only works with kernel 2.4.x and above
00:14 < th> praenti: sure?
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00:16 < praenti> th: not at all. freshmeat's describition say 2.2.x. but today i've found a howto with says 2.4.x
00:16 < praenti> th: i dont know what is right
00:17 < praenti> i use iproute2 only with fwbuilder. thats a cool tool
00:18 < praenti> ohh. we dont have it in ext. tommorow i try to write one ;-)
00:18 * praenti going to bed
00:18 < praenti> gn8
00:21 < d3mian> Mike1:
00:21 < d3mian> Mike1:
00:22 < d3mian> u here ?
00:22 < d3mian> ohh... mike is away..at uni :p
00:22 < d3mian> damnit
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00:57 < d3mian> hehe, rh sucks, easy to hack!
00:57 < d3mian> cya
01:00 < SMP> 00:14| < praenti> th: iproute2 only works with kernel 2.4.x and above
01:00 < SMP> wrong.
01:00 < SMP> I've used iproute2 on a 2.2.14 based Debian Slink
01:01 < SMP> until the day before yesterday ;)
01:08 < tsa> n8
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01:55 < iive__> is Clifford Wolf here?
01:56 < SMP> no.
01:57 < iive__> ok, then sending mail
01:59 < iive__> btw, i found this disto by accident
01:59 < iive__> can somebody say what is it good for?
02:03 < acm_scl> uhm.. Ist good for made many diferents kinds of 'ambients' easy.
02:03 < iive__> ??
02:03 < acm_scl> With that i mean, you can select many packaweas for differentes situations..
02:03 < acm_scl> packages.. -fix-
02:04 < acm_scl> and all compiled for diferents architectures.. like i386, i585, i686, k6, k7, rtc
02:04 < iive__> some questions.
02:04 < acm_scl> etc..
02:04 < iive__> 1. what packageing system does it use -rpm,tgz,deb
02:04 < th> tbz2
02:04 < acm_scl> src.tgz
02:04 < th> for binaries
02:05 < iive__> 2. does you "patch" packages like rh do?
02:05 < th> no
02:05 < th> not like them
02:05 < acm_scl> the patches are applieds in srcs..
02:05 < iive__> 3. how mach space does it take for a typical X configuration
02:05 < th> it depends
02:06 < th> on what is typical for you
02:06 < acm_scl> what mean typical for you? Only X? or X + gnome, gnome2, kde, windowmaker.. etc
02:07 < acm_scl> iive__: you need count too the non-X packages.. like ssh, apache, etc, or for workstations machines, mplayer, abiword..
02:07 < iive__> all stuff needed to run inernet, Few browses, libraries..
02:07 < iive__> ok, how mach space a full install can take?
02:07 < th> iive__: that does not depend on the distribution
02:08 < iive__> ok, next
02:08 < th> iive__: there are tons of extension packages that are not distributed in binary form
02:09 < iive__> does it support i18n?
02:09 < iive__> i meen does it have some preconfigured scenarions or i have to make all by hand?
02:10 < th> scenarions?
02:10 < th> you mean pre-selected packages?
02:10 < th> package-sets?
02:10 < iive__> something like that, something you can choose
02:11 < th> very easy to accomplish
02:11 < th> rock isn't a distribution
02:11 < th> but a meta-distribution
02:11 < th> you can create your own distributions with it
02:11 < th> and so it's very very easy to set up preselections
02:12 < iive__> so you got only the ./configure options, and compile all on your self
02:13 < th> was that a question?
02:14 < th> i'm loosing you
02:14 < iive__> no, it wasn't question
02:15 < acm_scl> iive__: you can have a base config, and the scripts pass to each source those configurations... like use gcc or gcc3, or compile to i686 or k6 -even sparc or risc-
02:15 < th> have to go now
02:15 < th> need slee
02:15 < th> p
02:15 < iive__> cu
02:15 < th> later folks
02:16 < acm_scl> bye!
02:16 < iive__> i am slackware user, and while i was waiting for 8.0 i had to update some
02:16 < iive__> packages by hand, looking for the right options, i found out that it is not easy
02:17 < iive__> so all this work is done by rock people
02:17 < iive__> i like it
02:17 < iive__> how big is the iso on the site?
02:17 < iive__> bye
02:17 < acm_scl> 500mbs is normal, choose the richt one, because ar compiled for k7 sometimes
02:19 < iive__> nice i am with k7
02:32 < d3mian> back
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03:01 < kasc> n8 ihr's
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03:09 < huebi> re
03:10 < d3mian> hi huebi
03:10 < huebi> hi d3mian
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03:17 < iive__> see you
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05:05 < demian> ceduardo:
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05:06 < demian> carlos ?
05:06 < ceduardo> ?
05:06 < demian> i always say ur crazy
05:06 < ceduardo> why?
05:06 < demian> forget it
05:07 < ceduardo> i cant
05:07 < demian> :(
05:07 < demian> get a eprom memory
05:07 < ceduardo> do you have the 'veron' disk images?
05:07 < ceduardo> i have one here.. i think
05:07 < demian> umm.. ill post them tomorrow, i dunt have them here
05:08 < ceduardo> the eprom is used by network cards?
05:08 < demian> dunno
05:08 < ceduardo> :P
05:08 < demian> join #offtopic
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05:34 < Nico-RK> hello
05:34 < Nico-RK> people
05:34 < demian> hi Nico-RK
05:34 < ceduardo> hello
05:35 < ceduardo> where do you live Nico-RK ?
05:35 < demian> ceduardo: sera nica ?
05:35 < demian> lol
05:35 < ceduardo> shut up
05:35 < ceduardo> :)
05:35 < ceduardo> may be
05:35 < Nico-RK> Argentina
05:35 < ceduardo> ESPANOL ?
05:35 < Nico-RK> :)
05:35 < demian> hola Nico-RK
05:35 < Nico-RK> hola?
05:35 < ceduardo> hablamos espańol
05:35 < Nico-RK> hablan espańol?
05:35 < ceduardo> lol
05:35 < demian> nosotros ambos somos de marte
05:35 < ceduardo> si
05:35 < demian> ;-)
05:35 < ceduardo> si
05:36 < Nico-RK> huuu que bueno
05:36 < Nico-RK> jejee
05:36 < ceduardo> SODA STEREO POR SIEMPRE!
05:36 < Nico-RK> por que mi ingles es medio reprobable
05:36 < Nico-RK> heeee
05:36 < Nico-RK> aguante
05:36 < ceduardo> el mio tambien
05:36 < Nico-RK> de donde sos?
05:36 < demian> mine tu
05:36 < ceduardo> El Salvador
05:36 < demian> costa rica
05:36 < Nico-RK> y que haces por aca?
05:36 < ceduardo> costa rica - puerto rica (whats the diference?)
05:36 < demian> :/
05:36 < ceduardo> metidos somos
05:37 < demian> que puede estar haciendo uno en este canal ceduardo ?
05:37 < ceduardo> no se
05:37 < ceduardo> chatear?
05:37 < ceduardo> no creo
05:37 < demian> eso creo
05:37 < ceduardo> quiza compilando kernels
05:37 < ceduardo> :)
05:37 < demian> tu que haces aca Nico-RK ?
05:37 < ceduardo> y que pues demian?
05:37 < Nico-RK> trato de ver algo nuevo
05:37 < ceduardo> my new technologie: SSFU
05:38 < ceduardo> my new technology: SSFU
05:38 < ceduardo> STUPID SCRIPTS FOR YOU !
05:38 < Nico-RK> ver que gente anda por aca
05:38 < ceduardo> ya veo
05:38 < demian> pues.. nojotros
05:38 < ceduardo> somos entrometidos
05:38 < demian> no, en realidad esta es gente seria
05:38 < ceduardo> y usas linux?
05:38 < ceduardo> o bsd?
05:39 < ceduardo> quiero dormir
05:39 < demian> have to leave
05:39 < ceduardo> ahora desperte a las 3 am
05:39 < ceduardo> y desde entonces
05:39 < demian> ceduardo: dunt sleep affects ur mind !!
05:39 < ceduardo> mentiras
05:39 < ceduardo> quien dice eso
05:40 < ceduardo> tu no duermes
05:40 < ceduardo> y tienes dinero para mi ferrari f40
05:40 * demian away
05:40 < ceduardo> tons
05:40 < ceduardo> me voy Nico-RK
05:40 < ceduardo> gusto conocerte
05:41 < ceduardo> pero anda a #gigax
05:41 < ceduardo> bye
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05:59 < acm_scl> is anyone wakeup?
06:01 < Nico-RK> hello
06:01 < Nico-RK> people
06:02 < Nico-RK> somebody, funny?
06:02 < acm_scl> funny?
06:03 < acm_scl> en que sentido?
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06:31 < Nico-RK> quieto decir alquin amigable
06:31 < Nico-RK> friendly seria
06:31 < Nico-RK> alguien que no tenga el ego informatico, por las nuves
06:31 < Nico-RK> alguien GNU, de alma
06:31 < acm_scl> ah, cualquiera despierto sirve.. :D
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06:37 < nAdIeD> H!
06:37 < nAdIeD> moin srs
06:37 < acm_scl> hi
06:38 < nAdIeD> i have a question
06:38 < nAdIeD> offtopic
06:38 < nAdIeD> anyone here work whit microcontrollers
06:39 < nAdIeD> Motorola HC08 ?_
06:39 < nAdIeD> im looking for a IDE on Linux !
06:39 < nAdIeD> nephasth is now known as nebiros
06:40 < acm_scl> I can't help..
06:40 < nAdIeD> ok THx
06:40 < acm_scl> but, what means ' lookinf for IDE' ?
06:41 < nAdIeD> look for, buscar , find , google....
06:42 < acm_scl> o es la hora, o soy yo.. que es IDE ? -disculpa si soy muy duro de entender-
06:43 < nAdIeD> pues, me refiero a un entorno de desarrollo, donde pueda programar, compilar, debuguear,, y programar los micros de motorola
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07:53 < huebi> moin
07:54 < [anders]_> moin huebi, wie gehts?
07:55 < huebi> [anders]_: fine;-)
07:55 < huebi> [anders]_: and you?
07:55 < [anders]_> huebi: not bad.. not bad.. feeling a bit stupid about the whole networking problem though..
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07:57 < [anders]> At least I have working network again.. :)
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08:02 < huebi> I'm going to setup WLAN and a new gateway today
08:03 < [anders]> huebi: you should have hours of entertainment with that.. :)
08:03 < praenti> moin
08:03 < praenti> huebi: do you have a message from clifford?
08:03 < huebi> heh, I will...
08:03 < huebi> praenti: no
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08:05 < praenti> huebi: ok. i have one. i will try some debugging.
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08:11 < praenti> huebi: clifford says perhaps the gcc-wrapper is the problem. fl_wrapper should not be the problem cause of the LD_PRELOAD. That would result in an earlier error
08:11 < huebi> praenti: hmmm.
08:12 < praenti> huebi: but there is a debugging define in
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09:25 < kasc> moin
09:40 < praenti> moin kasc
09:47 < [anders]> morning again all.. now @ work getting busy... :)
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10:13 < Mike1> moin
10:13 < huebi> rmoin Mike1
10:14 < Mike1> how are you huebi ? sleeped well my friend?
10:14 < huebi> Mike1: yes, I did
10:14 < Mike1> great to hear that
10:16 < Mike1> i wish i could say the say but actually i am normally sleeping at this time :((
10:19 < [anders]> moin Mike1
10:19 < Mike1> hi master [anders]
10:20 < [anders]> hmmm.. out of curiosity, why are you up? got paged from work?
10:20 < Mike1> yes :(
10:20 < Mike1> arrgg
10:21 < Mike1> one of the webservers went down
10:21 < [anders]> out of space or hw failure?
10:21 < Mike1> had to come find out what happened and fix it asap
10:21 < Mike1> [anders]: hw failure
10:21 < Mike1> motherboard
10:21 < [anders]> as per usual when you are on stand-by.. (me remembers how it was when I had to do it..)
10:21 < Mike1> i guess
10:22 < Mike1> [anders]: yeah anyways backup server is up now i will fix the demaged hw tomorrow
10:22 < Mike1> i _NEED_ to sleep
10:22 < Mike1> <_>
10:22 < Mike1> >_<
10:22 < [anders]> Mike1: night night.. :)
10:22 < Mike1> :P
10:22 < Mike1> talk to you guys in some hours
10:23 < Mike1> [anders]: BTW cvs works very nice :)
10:23 * Mike1 is away: sleeping
10:23 < Mike1> jeg da
10:26 * [anders] might be able to do a little bit of rock hacking soon.. at least the box is back online now..
11:09 < kasc> does anyone have a working Download-Mirror-List for 1.7? mine got lost somewhere...
11:20 < th> someone in here as a non-resolved IP
11:20 < th> i mean IP without reverse-lookup
11:20 < th> need to test MTA
11:25 < kasc> what about moving your /etc/resolv.conf somewhere... every ip will then look unresolveable...
11:34 < th> kasc: no
11:34 < th> i want to test my mta without damaging it ;)
11:46 < kasc> well then good luck finding one :)
12:07 < praenti> th: demian has one
12:07 < th> praenti: timed out
12:08 < praenti> th: demian [~demian@208.165.55.133]
12:08 < th> hmmm looking in irc... good idea ;)
12:08 < praenti> ohh. Mike is also slepping
13:23 < praenti> th: can you help me with configure. i need the option to get libraries know by configure
13:23 < praenti> libs are in /opt/sdl/lib
13:23 < praenti> and configure find nothing
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13:42 < praenti> argh. ich hasse developer, die nicht mit autoconf umgehen können
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14:17 < praenti> yeah. build is finished ;-)
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15:11 < praenti> huebi: gard zeit?
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15:27 < th> FSCK!
15:27 < th> removed passwd,shadow and group again :-((
15:27 < th> just caused by pkg-remove
15:31 < praenti> th: do you know how ext and base packages are divided?
15:32 < th> base-pkgs are found in base-config extensions in ext-config ;)
15:32 < praenti> when Build-All creates the rock-arch-opti...
15:32 < praenti> i get an iso image with over 900 mb
15:32 < th> and extensions are based on .ext file base-pkgs just on .pz .conf and .desc
15:33 < th> ahhh i see
15:33 < th> aehm
15:33 < th> don't build ext-packages then
15:33 < praenti> so i look deeper and there were all ext-packages in ... :-(
15:33 * th is away now
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16:46 < tcr> moin all
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17:14 < th> re
17:15 < th> anyone a idea how to recover from a system with deleted passwd,shadow and group?
17:15 < th> i'm still logged on.
17:15 < th> but no root shell
17:16 < tcr> what are you allowed to do?
17:16 < litost> how about passing init=/bin/bash as a kernel paramter?
17:17 < th> i don't wanne boot
17:17 < th> th.segfault ~ > ssh root@localhost
17:17 < th> You don't exist, go away!
17:18 < th> tcr: just a user account open
17:18 < th> and some public-keys in ~root/.ssh
17:19 < tcr> try to exploit a suid root programm 8)
17:19 < th> i'm afraid i have to boot
17:20 < th> i'm afraid that was the last revenge of sendmail... it happened on pkg-remove / sendmail
17:20 < th> /etc/passwd and friends where in it's filelist
17:22 < tcr> it's usually to create /etc/{shadow,passwd,groups}.bak after finished configuration of the system
17:22 < tcr> you just need write access to /etc ;-)
17:22 < th> it's no problem recreating them
17:22 < th> exactly
17:23 < th> ok gonna reboot
17:23 < th> later
17:23 < tcr> good luck
17:35 < th> was no real problem with rebooting
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18:43 < term_emu> guten tag
18:54 < esden> hi all
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19:08 < huebi> moijn esden
19:10 < th> SMP: nutzt du QMQP?
19:11 < SMP> ja
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19:15 < th> SMP: macht das sinn fuer einen rechner der nur ueber einen anderen rausschicken soll und selber nicht empfaengt?
19:15 < th> SMP: gibts da nichts ohne ein neues protokol?
19:15 < th> huebi: du auch da?
19:15 < th> SMP: ne smtproute z.b.?
19:16 < SMP> natuerlich. wenn du ein qmail laufen lassen willst, kannst du einfach eine smtproute setzten
19:16 < huebi> jo th. Moin
19:16 < huebi> SMP: moin
19:17 < SMP> der Witz bei QMQP ist ja, dass du kein qmail(-send) laufen lassen musst
19:17 < th> huebi: ich hab grad mal ne 1.5.18 enttart und gebootet... kein setup laufen lassen. gibts da ein root-pw?
19:17 < th> SMP: hmmm
19:17 < huebi> th nicht das ich wuesste
19:17 < th> SMP: und brauch ich auf dem smarthost dann einen bestimmten server?
19:17 < th> SMP: das geht ja irgendwie ueber tcp 628
19:18 < th> achso
19:18 < th> qmqpd is ja fuer den server
19:18 < th> aufm client is ja ein qmail
19:18 < th> * qmail-qmqpc
19:18 < th> hmm
19:24 < esden> hi huebi
19:25 < esden> hi SMP
19:25 < esden> hi th
19:25 < huebi> na esden, wie gehts?
19:25 < th> ho esden
19:26 < esden> huebi: gut ... bissel im stress ... aber das ist normal ...
19:26 < esden> wie geht's dir huebi ?
19:26 < praenti> re
19:26 < esden> re brand
19:26 < esden> ;-)
19:27 < praenti> huebi: für ext hab ich schon was
19:27 < praenti> ich überleg grad wie ich die ext aus den scripts/packages rausfilter bevor ich einen cut -f4 mache
19:28 < praenti> huebi: gibst
19:29 < praenti> huebi: ... eigentlich was einzuwenden wenn in Build-All awk vorj
19:29 < huebi> esden: richtig gut wieder. Ich habein Offenbach einen Wirbelsaeulenzauberer gefunden, der mir meine seit Jahren ausgerenkte Wirbelsaeule wieder in Ordnung gebracht hat.
19:29 < praenti> vorkommt. ich hasse lappy-tastatur
19:29 < huebi> praenti: Noe, mir faellt nichts ein, was dagegen spricht.
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19:32 < esden> huebi: das freut mich sehr ... ich denke ich sollte zu so einem Wirbelsaeulenzauberer auch gehen ...
19:32 < esden> eigentlich bin ich zu jung fuer rueckensmaerzen ... >_<
19:32 < esden> glaube ich ...
19:33 < esden> scheisse wieso braucht sdl so lange zum compilieren ... >_<
19:33 < huebi> esden: ACK. Fuer 30 EUR hat der mir den 4. und 5. Brustwirbel und ein Uraltes Schleudertrauma im Hals beseitigt.
19:33 < th> SMP: seltsam. "Finally run qmail-qmqpd from your boot scripts" warum jetzt keine daemontools mehr?
19:33 < huebi> +eingerenkt
19:34 < th> huebi: wollte mich schon wundern... du laesst dir fuer 30EURO 2 brustwirbel entfernen ;)
19:34 < SMP> th: weil diese Dokumentation drei Jahre vor daemontools geschrieben wurde
19:34 < th> achso
19:36 < praenti> esden: selbst kompiliert oder 1.5er tree ext oder 1.7er?
19:37 < esden> 1.7 tree ... ich upgrade schritt fuer schritt meinen lappy auf 1.7 .. ich brauche mommentan sdl ... denn ich muss mir vier gewinnt strategien anschauen ... fuer die uni
19:38 < esden> und ich schaue mir erst fertige spiele an ... und suche gleichzeitig im netz ob ich strategien beschreibungen finde ...
19:39 < praenti> esden: im 1.5er hab ich compilierbare ext
19:39 < esden> ok ... jetzt ist es fentig ... noch pygame compileren ...
19:45 < th> SMP: hmmm mini-qmail howto sagt mir ich brauch keine extra user in der passwd. aber make setup schlaegt fehl beim qmail, wenn ich die nicht hab
19:47 < kasc> howtos sind notorisch veraltet...
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19:49 < SMP> th: "make setup" installiert auch kein mini-qmail. du kannst du benoetigten Dateien leich selbst kopieren
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19:57 < _NULL> hi
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20:00 * acm_scl is away: lunch..
20:00 < acm_scl> brb
20:01 < SMP> acm_scl: we don't care if you're away or why
20:04 < th> SMP: aber make schlaegt auch schon fehl
20:05 < SMP> achja
20:05 < th> ich geb ihm wohl mal den user
20:05 < SMP> moment
20:05 < th> ok
20:05 < th> ...standby...
20:07 < SMP> ok..
20:08 < SMP> https://world.cabal1.net/~stefanp/qmail.conf
20:09 < SMP> so kannst du es bauen ohne dass die user existieren
20:09 < th> okdanke
20:10 < SMP> die andere moeglichkeit fuer ein mini-qmail waere, alles in conf-user und conf-groups durch root zu ersetzen
20:10 < SMP> oder nobody oder daemon oder was auch immer
20:15 < th> SMP: die ganzen files in /var/qmail kann ich im nachhinein doch sicher auf root chownen...
20:16 < th> hmmm
20:16 < th> irgendwie will das noch nicht
20:16 < SMP> bei einem mini-qmail liegen da eh keine, die nicht root gehoeren muessen
20:17 < th> ahh
20:17 < th> ich muss ja noch die qmqp server eintragen
20:17 < th> *erinner*
20:17 < th> # a symbolic link to qmail-qmqpc from /var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue;
20:18 < SMP> seufz
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20:24 < th> SMP: aehm. world.cabal1.net nimmt rocklinux.de nicht an
20:25 * acm_scl is back (gone 00:25:14)
20:27 < SMP> th: doch
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20:41 * Mike1 is back (gone 10:18:08)
20:41 < Mike1> re all
20:42 < th> hi mike
20:43 < Mike1> how are you th?
20:43 < th> quite well
20:43 < th> quite busy
20:43 < th> feels good ;)
20:45 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
20:45 < _NULL> hi blindy
20:46 < th> hi _NULL
20:46 < _NULL> moin th
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20:48 < zer0_o> hi all
20:48 < _NULL> hi zer0_o
20:49 < Mike1> demian:
20:50 < zer0_o> how are you Mike1?
20:52 < Mike1> good and you zer0_o?
20:52 < zer0_o> went from work a few minutes ago..
20:53 < Mike1> :)
20:53 < zer0_o> i'm glad to be at home
20:53 < Mike1> i just arrived to my office
20:54 < Mike1> had to come over at 2am and left at 4am
20:54 < Mike1> there was no way i would come back again at 7am
20:54 < Mike1> :)
20:54 < zer0_o> =)
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20:55 < kvak|uninvited> hello !
20:55 < zer0_o> i need some hardware, otherwise i cant install some os's =/
20:55 < Mike1> hi kvak|uninvited
20:55 < zer0_o> hello kvak|uninvited
20:55 < Mike1> zer0_o ?
20:56 < zer0_o> i've got to less hdds =(
20:56 < Mike1> i see
20:57 < esden> re Mike1
20:57 < Mike1> hello esden :)
20:57 < zer0_o> hi esden
20:57 < kvak|uninvited> hi esd0n
20:57 < _NULL> moin esden
20:58 < zer0_o> aah, listening to some good sound relaxes...
21:00 < kvak|uninvited> [mp3]Thomas Heckmann - 90-60-90
21:02 < Mike1> is there anything wrong with ftp://metalab.unc.edu ??? i cant download packages from there
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21:03 < martin_> hmmm, rxr? bist mal zu hause?
21:12 < esden> argh .. I have little connection problems here ...
21:13 < zer0_o> whats up ? =(
21:14 < esden> ok ...
21:14 < esden> it is dirti ... this connection ...
21:14 < esden> ok ... I have to go now
21:14 < esden> cu all
21:14 < zer0_o> cu esden
21:14 < zer0_o> have fun, whatever you do =)
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21:34 < martin_> n8
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22:13 < LocalHero> Hi all
22:15 < LocalHero> Does anybody know who Michael Obster is?
22:17 < _NULL> hi LocalHero
22:23 < acm_scl> I'm writing a script for my rock, buy, I'm lame on shell script.. :(
22:24 < acm_scl> awk '($1 != "lala") {print;}' <- how can i compare $1 -first field- with a var. ??
22:25 < acm_scl> :p
22:37 < LocalHero> Got to go now, need some sleep, bye everybody
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