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--- Log opened Tue Sep 24 00:00:13 2002 --- Day changed Tue Sep 24 2002 00:29 < tsa> n8 00:30 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082BAFB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 01:38 -!- kasc_ [~shaman@p50909728.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux () 01:39 < demian> im tired, cya later 02:00 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has left #rocklinux () 02:02 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1CBA5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 02:09 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 02:19 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9523977.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 02:20 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9523977.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:26 -!- hackbard_ [~hackbard@pD9E0ACEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:34 -!- EpA [~epaphus@196.40.3.48] has joined #rocklinux 03:34 < EpA> Is it dangerous to allow direct ssh root login? instead of su'ing in? 03:35 < Ge0rG> its not dangerous, but it is less secure 03:35 < EpA> Ge0rG: ok, why would it less secure? 03:37 < EpA> *be 03:38 < Ge0rG> with su the hacker needs to break two passwords, with direct root login only one 03:38 < Ge0rG> (unless you use an exploitable sshd where the hacker can directly gain root access ;)) 03:38 * Ge0rG is going to bed now... it's 3:40am 03:39 < EpA> Ge0rG with exploitable, you mean old versions.. right? 03:39 < Ge0rG> yeah 03:39 < EpA> Ge0rG: ok tnx 03:39 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has quit ("Irssi - the client of smart and beautiful people") 03:39 -!- EpA [~epaphus@196.40.3.48] has left #rocklinux () 03:43 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9523977.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:03 -!- chrisi is now known as chriZzz 04:19 -!- john_22 [~john_22@61.9.37.70] has joined #rocklinux 05:30 < demian> re 06:34 -!- john_22 [~john_22@61.9.37.70] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09:09 < demian> cool, i got it ! 09:09 < demian> nice 09:09 * demian ruleZ 09:09 < demian> ;-) 09:12 < [anders]> morning alles.. rather a nice day today I would be inclined to say. Hope everyone has had a good sleep. :) 09:13 < demian> hi [anders] , havent slept yet, but was a cool night ;-) 09:17 * SMP swears 09:20 < demian> im hungry and need to sleep, have a nice morning over there 09:21 * SMP has slept 7 hours since Sunday 09:39 < [anders]> demian: cheers matey, at work now and getting rather busy here.. :) 09:39 < [anders]> SMP: you should go take a nap then.. 09:39 < [anders]> SMP: how did you do the anon cvs access via ssh? :) 09:40 < SMP> read this https://www.openbsd.org/anoncvs.shar 09:41 < SMP> get this https://world.cabal1.net/~stefanp/cvs-readonlyfs.patch 09:42 < SMP> and I don't run the anoncvs server on "the real" repository 09:42 < SMP> instead, I rsync it every some minutes into the chroot 09:44 < praenti> moin 09:45 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has joined #rocklinux 09:57 < [anders]> Hmm.. I am still tempted in using the pserver for anonymous access to the repository.. 09:57 < [anders]> especially if there is no passwd authentication when using it.. 10:08 < SMP> the basic procedure is equal for ssh and pserver 10:12 < [anders]> mm.. Well, if I can provide RO access over ssh then perhaps I will not need the pserver.. I could do what others have done, create a special id_dsa / id_dsa.pub keypair and set ssh access up for a read-only account that way.. But that requires the users to actually know what they are doing with SSH.. not always the case I have noticed.. 10:12 < SMP> eh? anoncvs over ssh needs neither password nor keys 10:16 < [anders]> when I searched the net for howto's for it, a lot of the people that have done it, have done it by creating a keypair and making one half available with instructions for how to install it etc.. 10:22 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD90485CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:23 < SMP> [anders]: this is needed if one wants to use command="cvs server" in authorized_keys and is superfluous with the anoncvs wrapper 10:31 < [anders]> SMP: okidoki.. I'll try and open that shar archive and have a nose around in it.. I have bookmarked your patch as well.. :) 10:43 < praenti> argh. i hate 2.4.19. i have no parallel port 10:46 < [anders]> modprobe parport ? ;-) 10:46 * [anders] is editing a 1.1MB patch by hand.. Timeconsuming is one word for it.... 10:47 < [anders]> I _really_ hate it when you get a patch that is patching a patch.. *urgh* It starts getting quite hard to read at that point... 10:48 < praenti> [anders]: i have my /dev/parport/0. but with echo "test" > /dev/parport/0 nothing is happening 10:48 < praenti> yes i have my parallel cable on the box ;-) 10:49 < praenti> with 2.4.18 this is working 10:50 < [anders]> praenti: uhm, what do you get in dmesg when you modprobe the module? 10:51 < praenti> [anders]: not as module. this is in the kernel 10:51 < [anders]> ah.. ok.. :) 10:51 < [anders]> praenti: you haven't managed to switch on ACPI by any chance? :) 10:51 < SMP> [anders]: https://freshmeat.net/projects/patchutils/ 10:51 < [anders]> SMP: the answer is BitKeeper, but I can not really justify it.. 10:52 < praenti> [anders]: why acpi? do you need a full working acpi? 10:52 < SMP> [anders]: use OpenLogging ;) 10:52 < [anders]> praenti: no, ACPI can screw things up.. 10:53 < [anders]> SMP: hehehe.. it is a shame BK is so expensive.. If it wasn't, more would probably use it.. 10:53 < praenti> [anders]: that was also my a thought from me. for examples i have problem with the nvidia drivers with intel-acpi patches 10:53 < praenti> s/my/ 10:55 < praenti> [anders]: but 2.4.18 with intel-acpi patches worked 10:55 < praenti> [anders]: and 2.4.19 is not a very good kernel 11:19 -!- zer0_o^^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has joined #rocklinux 11:19 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:19 -!- barthel [~barthel@62.206.249.2] has joined #rocklinux 11:20 < barthel> moin, hi 11:20 < barthel> sorry bad english :-/ 11:21 < th> "hi" was perfect english. 11:22 < barthel> i've install rocklinux from cd-iso (1.5.19)... i read the FAQ, INSTALL, README and the GUIDE, but i can't rocklinux boot up. the kernel can't mount my root partition... 11:23 < barthel> in lilo.conf: append="root=/dev/discs/disc0/part3" 11:23 < th> change this 11:23 < barthel> it's a problem with devfs... i don't know about devfs... 11:23 < barthel> how 11:24 < th> append="root=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3" 11:24 < th> and check existence of that device before 11:24 < barthel> ;-) the drive is attached ;-) 11:25 < th> i mean the device file 11:25 < th> ls -l /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3 11:25 < barthel> how i say lilo to create new mb, if i boot from the rocklinux-iso ? 11:25 < th> chroot 11:25 < th> ok 11:25 < th> so.. 11:25 < th> you booted from cd 11:25 < barthel> in chroot is nothing in /dev 11:26 < th> mount your / to /trg 11:26 < barthel> yep 11:27 < th> chroot then 11:27 < th> chrtrg or such thing was an shorthand 11:27 < barthel> yep with chrtrg 11:27 < th> mount /dev 11:27 < th> mount /proc 11:27 < barthel> aha... 11:27 < th> vi /etc/lilo.conf 11:27 < th> do the changes 11:27 < th> and run lilo again 11:27 < barthel> moment... i have to switch my console ;-) 11:31 < barthel> ok... successfully ;-) 11:31 < th> umouny /dev 11:31 < th> umouny /proc 11:31 < th> sync 11:31 < th> C-d 11:31 < th> umount /trg 11:31 < th> reboot 11:31 < th> ;) 11:32 < barthel> ;-) BEEP ;-) reboot... 11:32 < th> cool ;) 11:32 < th> barthel: this problem was a known problem once. 11:33 < th> barthel: it was fixed and reappeared in 1.5.19 11:33 < barthel> i have rocklinux 1.5.19... 11:33 < th> barthel: what was the command you mounted /trg with before doing "Install"? 11:33 < barthel> ok... maintenance console: ... 11:33 < th> barthel: i know. you told that 11:34 < barthel> mount /dev/discs/disc0/part3 /trg 11:34 < th> that's the problem 11:34 < th> where did you read to mount it as "/dev/discs/disc0/part3" ?? 11:34 < th> we need to fix that docu 11:34 < th> or burn it 11:35 < barthel> i thing i on of the INSTALL, README or so... i search for it... moment... 11:35 < th> you needed to mount it as "/dev/ide/.../" 11:38 < barthel> in ROCK Linux Guide... 5.3 Starting Install: #mount /dev/discs/disc0/part4 /trg ... 11:39 < th> that's bad 11:39 < th> ok thanks for that report 11:40 < barthel> ok thank you for your fast help... 11:40 < barthel> by from germany... 11:41 -!- barthel [~barthel@62.206.249.2] has quit ("Client Exiting") 11:45 < SMP> /dev/discs/disc?/.... is supposed to work 11:50 < th> SMP: not as a root for the kernel 11:51 < th> have heard several reports about that 11:52 < SMP> bullshit 11:53 < SMP> it i supposed to work and it has worked for me forever 11:53 < th> with 2.4.19-stefanp? 11:55 < SMP> since 2.3 11:55 -!- zer0_o^^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:55 < th> SMP: i have to wait for a build to finish. then i'll test that 11:58 < SMP> th: https://cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/base-config/sendmail/sendmail.conf 11:58 < th> ouhm 11:58 < th> SMP: thanks 11:58 < SMP> aeh 11:59 < SMP> group- passwd- shadow- are missing 11:59 < th> SMP: it's better in global conf or is required to be in global conf? 11:59 < th> SMP: ack 12:00 < th> asking because of extension packages. 12:00 < th> i'm afraid i can't add something to global in conv from .ext file 12:00 < SMP> well, it's better 12:00 < th> s,conv,conf, 12:01 < SMP> gee, the whole idea of using groupadd / useradd in sendmail.conf is just ill 12:01 < SMP> anyway.. 12:01 < th> /etc/setup.d/XY-sendmail instead? 12:02 < SMP> that's the preferred way 12:02 < th> ok 12:02 < th> i'll change that 12:02 < SMP> does sendmail compile without smmsp user? 12:02 < SMP> HELL! 12:02 < th> ouhm 12:03 < th> i'm not sure 12:03 < SMP> that postcommit stuff really sucks ;-( 12:03 < SMP> poor world 12:03 < th> what sucks exactly? 12:03 < th> ahh ok 12:03 < th> yes 12:04 * SMP feeding his changes in small chunks 12:04 < SMP> (that makes it worse) 12:04 < th> how can i Build-Pkg into another target? 12:05 < SMP> huh? 12:05 < SMP> what's a target? 12:05 < th> i mean 12:05 < th> ok. not "target" 12:05 < th> target as of "/" 12:05 < th> if i run Build-Pkg it installs the package into / 12:06 -!- barthel [~barthel@62.206.249.2] has joined #rocklinux 12:06 < SMP> th: you can't 12:06 < barthel> hi ;-) 12:06 < th> SMP: hmm. 12:06 < th> SMP: i'd like to test sendmail build... 12:07 < th> barthel: hallo zurueck. 12:07 < barthel> i've a problem to build cfengine... 12:07 < barthel> hallo... ;-) 12:08 < SMP> th: unpack rescue system, chroot into 12:08 < th> SMP: yes 12:09 < barthel> i've download via Doownload cfengine; Build-Pkg failed with: /usr/src/rock-src/scripts/Build-Pkg: line 6: B: command not found 12:10 < SMP> AHHAAARHHH 12:11 * SMP turns off postcommit cronjob 12:15 * th now reboots with /dev/discs/... as root 12:15 < th> SMP: it does NOT work 12:15 < th> SMP: kernel panic. unable to mout rootfs 12:16 < th> SMP: cannot open root device "discs/disc0/part2" or 00:0d 12:16 < th> please append a correct root= 12:17 < SMP> it does work if done right. 12:18 < th> so how to do it right? 12:18 < SMP> you used "append=root=/dev/discs/...", right? 12:18 < th> ack 12:18 < th> aehm 12:18 < th> append="root=/dev/discs/... 12:18 < SMP> well, yes 12:19 < SMP> try typing that in at the lilo prompt 12:19 * SMP suspects lilo wants to be super smart 12:20 < th> lilo is just dumb ;) 12:21 < praenti> barthel: where do you got your ext? 12:22 < praenti> [anders]: now with 2.4.18 my parallel prot works... 12:22 < barthel> i don't know... if Download log that ? 12:23 < praenti> barthel: because in cvs there is a corrected version. the other thing you can do. vi cfengine.ext and delete the B 12:23 < th> barthel: do a ./scripts/Update cfengine 12:24 < barthel> if comment out the 'B' in cfengine.conf and the build was ok. thx 12:24 < praenti> th: das B hat sich glaub ich bei mir reingeschummelt... 12:24 < praenti> is aber schon lang wieder wech 12:25 < barthel> wir können auch auf deutsch;-) liegt mir deutlich besser als englisch ;-) 12:26 < praenti> barthel: wir haben aber auch ne menge nicht deutsch sprechende leute dabei. deshalb soll sich das in grenzen halten ;-) 12:26 < barthel> ok ;-) 12:27 < barthel> if möchte ihnen nur nicht mit meinem schlechten englisch weh tun :-) 12:27 < th> barthel: tue ein ./scripts/Update cfengine 12:27 < th> ;) 12:27 < praenti> barthel: aber mit ein paar leuten kannst du deutsch reden 12:27 < praenti> th: LOL 12:29 < barthel> th: i tue that thx ;-) 12:32 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1CECD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:34 < praenti> hi bluefire 12:35 < bluefire> Hiho 12:42 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has joined #rocklinux 12:42 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has quit (Client Quit) 13:14 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@dhcp024-210-222-139.woh.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux 13:14 -!- kasc_ [~shaman@p50909728.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:28 < kasc_> moin 13:50 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 13:50 < armijn> re 13:52 < armijn> 'llo 13:54 < praenti> hi kasc_ and armijn 13:55 < armijn> hi praenti 13:56 < praenti> argh. hatschi. i'm a little ill today i think... 13:56 < armijn> could be 13:58 < praenti> in the future i should not go outside with wet hair when we have 10°C or lower... 14:12 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1CECD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 14:21 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D6A8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:21 < tcr> moin all 14:22 * praenti away 14:23 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc3-stoc3-4-cust215.mid.cable.ntl.com] has joined #rocklinux 14:24 < ichilton> Hi armijn :) 14:24 < armijn> yo 14:25 < ichilton> I logged onto irc.freenode.net and it said someone only had my nick... 14:25 < armijn> depends on your nick 14:25 < ichilton> then I realised it must be OPN which I was already connected to :) 14:25 < armijn> ah, yes, it is 14:25 < ichilton> the owner was me :-) 14:25 < armijn> well, lucky you 14:25 < armijn> :) 14:26 < ichilton> Well, back to work - cya 14:26 < armijn> same here :) 14:41 < esden> hi all 14:41 < armijn> hi esden 14:43 < esden> hi armijn ! 14:54 < armijn> esden: will start on Alpha this weekend... 14:59 < esden> cool ... sadly my alpha is to far away from me ... so I can not do anything on this subject :-( 14:59 < armijn> well, actually I have to do it 15:00 < esden> my poor natalie feels so lonely ... 15:00 < armijn> a company gave me an alpha on loan and they want to see results 15:00 < armijn> natalie? who's natalie/ 15:00 < esden> that is the name of may alpha ... 15:00 < armijn> oh. 15:01 < esden> armijn: that means that I will see patches from you ? 15:01 < armijn> of course, you don't have a girlfriend... 15:01 < armijn> esden: duh 15:01 < esden> I do not have a girlfriend and it seems that it will not change in the near future .. :-( 15:02 < armijn> heh 15:03 < SMP> w00t, armijn 15:04 < armijn> w00t? 15:04 < esden> hi smp 15:04 < SMP> armijn: https://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/w00t.html 15:07 < armijn> ah, ok 15:07 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:08 < tcr> moin Ge0rG 15:08 < Ge0rG> hiho 15:09 < th> Ge0rG: guten morgen geburtstagskind :-) 15:09 < th> *veg* 15:10 < Ge0rG> hm... dem älterwerden kann man wohl nicht entkommen 15:10 < armijn> what? GeOrG is a geburtstagskind?!? 15:10 < Ge0rG> armijn: seems so. 15:12 < esden> hi Ge0rG 15:12 -!- kasc_ [~shaman@p50909728.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:12 < Ge0rG> hello esden 15:13 < esden> hi th 15:13 < esden> herzlichen glueckwunsch Ge0rG 15:13 < th> hi esden 15:13 < Ge0rG> esden: dankeschön :) 15:13 < tcr> Ge0rG: wird heute noch gefeiert? 15:14 < Ge0rG> tcr: aber nur in villariba ;) 15:18 -!- kasc_ [~shaman@p50909621.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:26 < tcr> brb 15:26 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D6A8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos") 15:33 < rolla> re 15:33 < esden> re 15:35 < barthel> re 15:49 * armijn writing ROCK sparc64 install guide for the ROCK guide 15:51 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 15:52 < Mike1> moin 15:53 < th> hi Mike1 15:54 < Mike1> yo th :) 15:54 < armijn> ok, rock sparc64 install guide rough beta finished 15:56 < Mike1> armijn: URL? 15:56 < armijn> mike1: no URL 15:56 < Mike1> armijn: can you email it? /me wanna see it 15:56 < Mike1> hi armijn BTW 15:56 < armijn> yeah yeah first sending it to Pjotr for a review 15:56 < armijn> hi Mike! 15:56 < armijn> :) 15:57 < Mike1> armijn: ok i will be waiting :) 15:57 < armijn> mike@rocklinux.org right/ 15:58 < Mike1> armijn: ack 15:58 < armijn> beware though, it doesn't work quite yet 15:58 < armijn> still need to send in a few fixes to huebi 15:59 < Mike1> yes 15:59 < Mike1> New mail for mike@mail has arrived: 15:59 < Mike1> ---- 15:59 < Mike1> From: Armijn Hemel <armijn@nl.linux.org> 15:59 < Mike1> Subject: sparc guide 15:59 < Mike1> Thanks 15:59 < Mike1> :) 16:00 < armijn> np 16:02 < esden> hi Mike1 ! 16:02 < Mike1> esden ! 16:03 < armijn> ah well...one step closer to a real ROCK/sparc64 release 16:04 < rolla> Mike 16:04 < Mike1> yes rolla? 16:04 < rolla> just saying hi :) 16:04 < Mike1> armijn: yes i am _very_ happy to hear that, just read ur email to the RLML as well :) 16:04 < Mike1> hi rolla :) 16:04 < Mike1> how is the baby? 16:05 < rolla> doing good 16:11 < armijn> baby? 16:12 < Mike1> armijn: he has become a father some weeks ago 16:12 < armijn> oh. sorry to hear that 16:12 < esden> rolla: poor boy ;-) 16:13 < esden> hi rolla 16:13 < armijn> yeah, if you need any professional help... 16:13 < rolla> ;) 16:14 < Mike1> armijn: i have a drinking problem could you give me some professional help? 16:14 < armijn> well, you can send your booze to me 16:15 < Mike1> armijn: no but my problem is i got 2 hands but only one mouth 16:15 < Mike1> :PP 16:17 < armijn> well... 16:17 < armijn> 1 - take a knife 16:17 < Mike1> no way ! :P 16:17 < Mike1> i guess i will go for option 1 16:18 < Mike1> send the booze to you :) 16:21 < [anders]> Mike1: you might want to grab the rock-gnome2 tree now.. 16:22 < Mike1> cvs or rsync? 16:22 < Mike1> hi [anders] :) 16:22 < [anders]> cvs 16:22 < [anders]> hullo Mike1 :) 16:23 < armijn> mike1: btw, I'm not building the full 1.5.* stuff, just base packages. No optional or extension stuff 16:23 < Mike1> ok i will download and mirror it at rollas server as well 16:23 < Mike1> armijn: i know 16:23 < [anders]> Mike1: ok.. :) 16:23 * Mike1 cvs ... 16:24 < [anders]> <- going to testdrive the Golf VR6 now.. 16:24 < rolla> :) 16:36 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1CECD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:43 < armijn> blah 16:46 < barthel> blubb 16:48 < esden> cu all 16:52 < armijn> blah 16:52 < Mike1> bleh 16:52 < barthel> bluh 16:54 * Mike1 is extremly tired, he will for sure fall over the keyboard in any second 16:54 < barthel> hi, i'm a debian user... i've install rocklinux 1.5.19 with select */* and install 16:54 < barthel> that's a lot of packages... 16:54 < Mike1> i better get some coffee 16:55 < barthel> what is a minimum of packages, that have to install to setup a system step by step ? 16:55 < armijn> if mike1 falls with his head on his keyboard, then we can find out how big his head is by the amount of keystrokes we see 16:55 < barthel> sorry bad english ;-/ 16:56 < armijn> barthel: that's a lot of packages indeed... 16:56 * Mike1 has got coffee 16:56 < Mike1> armijn: i think you will have to wait a bit more to see it :) 16:56 < Mike1> barthel: why dont you use the default selected packages 16:57 < Mike1> thats not the minimal system but is close to it 16:57 < armijn> pff, gnome is minimal, right 16:58 < barthel> i go step by step with the install guide... they 'say' me: select */* and install 16:58 < Mike1> barthel: yes but select */* select all packages of all categories 16:59 < barthel> yes... thats overkill... which categories i need for a 'groundlevel'-system ? 17:00 < armijn> mike1: he just needs the base packages 17:00 < armijn> the ones tagged "base" in ./scripts/packages 17:00 < Mike1> armijn: ack 17:00 < barthel> i've seen some Repository's on rocklinux.de which was used by the Downloadscript ? 17:01 < Mike1> armijn: but not in a 'groundlevel'-system, base sys is to big 17:02 < barthel> 'groundlevel'-system -> running system with networking and a base to set up a 'clean' desktop... 17:03 < armijn> mike1: "base" is pretty clean, if you leave out all the optional packages 17:03 < armijn> hey, I never use the optional packages ;) 17:04 < Mike1> armijn: yes i have noticed that, i guess that one of the facts for which you have not done much on 1.7 isnt it? 17:04 < barthel> ok... is the category 'base' the same like the repository 'base' ? 17:05 < demian> hi all 17:05 < Mike1> hi demian 17:06 < barthel> i'm fastidioused from dpkg in debian... ;-) 17:07 < armijn> barthel: dpkg is evil 17:07 < armijn> you might want to try "apt" though 17:07 * Mike1 HAVE TO learn about dpkg :(( 17:08 < barthel> if i select f.e. x11/gnome-panel become i the dep. packages automat. ? 17:09 < barthel> i like dpkg ! i not need a apt or what ever... 17:09 < armijn> barthel: ehr....ehr....no 17:10 -!- kaerF [freak@p50838928.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:10 -!- Freak [freak@p50839447.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17:11 -!- kaerF is now known as Freak 17:11 < barthel> ok... how i resolve the dep. ? have i know the needed packages before i build ? 17:11 < barthel> ???ehr....??? 17:11 -!- Freak [freak@p50838928.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: Freak!freak@p50838928.dip.t-dialin.net))) 17:12 -!- Freak [freak@p50838928.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:12 < armijn> if you install the packages, then yes, you have to know it, unfortunately 17:13 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D391.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:13 < tcr> re 17:15 < [anders]> <- back from testdriving a Golf VR6... 17:15 < armijn> ah well, ROCK is nice for toying around 17:15 < [anders]> <- will buy a Golf VR6 next month sometime.. 17:16 < barthel> that mean: i've to read the .cache and install each dep. ? f.e. for gnome-panel are 9x8=72 packages... that a hard work... 17:18 < armijn> barthel: yes it is... 17:18 < armijn> I'm not happy with that either 17:18 < barthel> it's not possible to do this job, if i start the Downloadscript ? 17:19 < armijn> ehr, I never do installs, I just build. Can someone help me out here? 17:23 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D391.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos") 17:25 < Mike1> barthel: what exactly do you want to do install or build? 17:25 < Mike1> we run Download script for fetching the binaries to build a rock linux distribution 17:26 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49C10.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:26 < Mike1> usually as armijn said with the base distro (./scripts/Download -base) would do the trick to get a stable and funtional enought system 17:26 < barthel> i would build my own working desktop... 17:27 < barthel> ok... is the category 'base' the same like the repository 'base' ? 17:28 < Mike1> barthel: yes 17:28 < barthel> if i would install a gnome with e as wm... 17:28 < Mike1> actually ROCK Linux uses Gnome as the default wm 17:28 < barthel> then i've to select x11/gnome* right ? 17:29 < Mike1> yes 17:29 < barthel> but gnome have a lot of deps... 17:29 < Mike1> i know 17:29 < Mike1> usually i select x11/* and then unselect x11/kde* 17:29 < Mike1> or something like that which a lot more easi 17:30 < Mike1> easy* 17:30 < barthel> hhmmm... and the rest ? 17:30 < Mike1> you could also run 'menu' on the rock linux install shell (if you are using 1.5.x) 17:30 < Mike1> so you could make this in a more fancy - userfriendly way 17:30 < demian> umm, instal_menu appears now different ? 17:31 < tcr> yes :) 17:31 < barthel> Mike1: how ? 17:31 < demian> in 1.5.19 i got a red background with some C code in the foreground 17:31 < tcr> demian: I did some changes on it, do you like it? :-) 17:31 < Mike1> barthel: simply in stead of running 'select */*' as said on the ROCK Linux Guide 17:31 < Mike1> run 'menu' 17:32 < demian> yes, it changes, but.. some texts are not wrapped to fit in the box 17:32 < Mike1> you will know what i mean when you do it 17:32 < demian> but it's now cool 17:32 < demian> btw.. 17:32 < tcr> demian: are not? oooh ... could you make a snapshot? 17:32 < demian> there is a little and unsignificant bug in install_bin.. 17:32 < demian> when a package install fails.. 17:32 < Mike1> demian: yes? 17:33 < demian> it wait 30sec and retry installing it 17:33 < demian> if u cancel that install (CTRL-C as defined) 17:33 < Mike1> yes thats true it is supposed to do that 17:33 < demian> .. 17:33 < demian> then, the packages-installed counter increase.. 17:33 < demian> so, at the end u get sth like: 17:34 < barthel> Mike1: which binary start the Install shell ? 17:34 < tcr> demian: will take a look, but first the miss-wrapping thing... 17:34 < Mike1> barthel: Install.bin 17:34 < demian> 100% (225/210)...........................xfree86 17:35 < Mike1> if you boot from a rocklinux cdrom after you partition, format ur drive and mount de src and trg simply run Install it will bring the rock linux isntall shell for you 17:35 < demian> tcr: it could be caused cause i was using some customized termcap with a disk rescue set i did, could this be caused cause of this ? 17:35 < demian> ommit all those 'causes', seems i like 'cause' word :p 17:35 < Mike1> demian: actually the counter increases during the retrying attempts not because of cancelling the installation of the broken package 17:36 < tcr> demian: hmm.. dunno, where does this flaw appear? 17:36 < demian> Mike1: also 17:36 < tcr> Mike1: it's definely a bug 17:36 < Mike1> demian: only on the retry not on the ctrl-c 17:36 < Mike1> tcr: yes this bug has been around since 1.4 17:36 < Mike1> i dont remember if it was on 1.2 17:37 < tcr> should be fixed for 1.6 17:37 < tcr> so i'll do it 17:37 < demian> Mike1: well, yes 17:37 < tcr> demian: hmm.. dunno, where does this flaw appear? <-- 17:37 < demian> cya later.. 17:37 < tcr> nonono!!! 17:37 < demian> flaw ? what is flaw ? 17:37 < tcr> error, fault ... 17:37 < Mike1> tcr: excellent 17:38 < demian> tcr: the badd wrap for text error ? 17:38 < tcr> demian: where does the line appear that obviously isnt wrapped? 17:38 < tcr> yes 17:38 < demian> when u want to see the info for a package 17:38 < tcr> mh 17:38 < barthel> Mike1: ok thx... i would start a new adventure ;-) 17:38 < tcr> demian: at the info page? 17:38 < demian> when u press '?' i think 17:38 < Mike1> barthel: sure have fun 17:39 < demian> in the summary one too 17:39 < barthel> thx... 17:39 < demian> now, cya later. im in classes again 17:39 < tcr> demian: when will you come back? 17:39 < demian> 2 hours or so 17:39 < tcr> okay, cu then 17:40 < demian> tcr: i will try a snapshot if i can too 17:40 < demian> bye! 17:40 < Mike1> tcr: ur maintaing the install shell? 17:40 < tcr> Mike1: no, it's being maintained ... clifford is going to write a complete new one based on dialog. 17:40 < tcr> is is _not_ being maintained 17:41 < tcr> it is _not_ being maintained 17:41 < tcr> *brrr* 17:41 < Mike1> tcr: ok 17:41 < tcr> Mike1: this new one will float into 1.7, not 1.5 though 17:42 < Mike1> tcr: i know but my main interest is in the 1.5 tree 17:42 < tcr> Mike1: yes, that's why I modified the install menu ... for having a not-buggy menu for the 1.6 tree 17:43 * Mike1 would like to have the multi-language install shell included for 1.6 17:44 < tcr> well, that'd require utf-8 support 17:45 < tcr> possible, but you'd have to find someone doing it ;) 17:46 * Mike1 would work on it if approved 17:50 -!- _NULL [~mail-spam@B54a8.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:50 < _NULL> hi 17:50 < Mike1> hi _NULL 17:51 < _NULL> hi Mike1 17:53 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-mu-10-1-dialup-67.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 17:54 < Mike1> 0_o 17:54 < Mike1> hi zer0_o 17:54 < zer0_o> hi Mike1 =) 17:54 < zer0_o> whats going on ? =) 17:55 < Mike1> nothing much there> 17:55 < Mike1> ? 17:56 < tcr> ??? 17:56 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux () 17:56 < tcr> *g* ... hi zer0_o, NULL 17:56 * tcr is listening to ASP - UnD Wir Tanzten 17:56 < Mike1> tcr: do you like "ASP"? 17:59 < tcr> "Das schönste lied schrieb ich nicht auf Papier, ich schrieb es in dein gesicht, mit den fingern siehst du mich, was mein mund dir hinterließ, schau auf deine haut und lies , such wo meine zunge war, such mein lied in deinem haar..." 17:59 < zer0_o> hmm, here not too... 17:59 < zer0_o> hi tcr 17:59 < tcr> Mike1: i only know this song, but this song is wonderful! 18:00 < _NULL> hi zer0_o 18:00 < _NULL> hi tcr 18:00 < zer0_o> hi _NULL 18:01 < Mike1> tcr: i like "PHP" :P 18:01 < _NULL> has some one a pill of caffeine for me? i'm almost dead. 18:01 < tcr> Mike1: lol :P 18:01 * _NULL sets zombie_style_enabled 18:01 < zer0_o> i bought a php book today 18:01 < zer0_o> =) 18:02 < tcr> _NULL: get that song 18:03 < _NULL> tcr: ok. url? 18:03 < tcr> öh... 18:03 < barthel> what for a book ? 18:03 < _NULL> tcr: if you wanna have the "18 summers" album --> here ;P 18:04 < tcr> the what? 18:04 < _NULL> tcr: hehe ;) ok. your lazyness is impossible ... ;P no ftp? no http? 18:04 < tcr> nope 18:04 < _NULL> 18 summmers (artist also known as "silke bischoff") 18:04 < tcr> ??? 18:04 < tcr> well ... mom 18:04 < _NULL> tcr: you don't know silke bischoff? what? 18:05 < tcr> i'm just a go 18:05 < tcr> +d 18:05 < _NULL> tcr: *g* just in your opinion... 18:06 < tcr> _NULL: i'll misuse huebi's ftp 18:06 < _NULL> tcr: oki. ;) 18:06 < _NULL> thx a lot 18:06 < tcr> there's a silke bischof song in upload/ ? 18:07 < _NULL> hm? at huebi's ftp? 18:07 < tcr> well, we need him to move the songs from upload/ away 18:07 < tcr> so: huebi !!!! 18:08 < _NULL> tcr: wait a second. i will restart my proxy. then you can leech it (oki. not leech - with ISDN speed != leeching) from my http 18:08 < tcr> huh? 18:08 < _NULL> tcr: oki. no problem. it's not important... 18:08 < _NULL> brb 18:08 -!- _NULL [~mail-spam@B54a8.pppool.de] has quit ("restart proxy") 18:08 < tcr> i can upload to your http? 18:10 < huebi> tcr: is passiert. 18:10 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@alexander.lunds.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux 18:10 < tcr> hi huebi ... was? 18:10 < tcr> moin LocalHero 18:10 < Mike1> master huebi ! 18:11 < LocalHero> tcr, hi :) 18:11 < Mike1> huebi: how are you ? 18:11 < Mike1> LocalHero: hi there 18:11 < huebi> hi all together ;-) 18:11 < LocalHero> Mike1, hi, whazzup? 18:11 < huebi> tcr: upload is moved to pub/mucis 18:12 < huebi> Mike1: I'm fine and a little bit tired 18:12 < Mike1> huebi: how you like to start merging some of the work done on the ROCK MultiLanguage project into the cvs tree? 18:12 < tcr> huebi: nice, but uploading still takes 4mins 18:13 < tcr> my upload 18:13 < huebi> tcr: Use a 10MBit line 18:14 < Mike1> huebi: i would like to start working a multilanguage install shell to get it included before releasing stable 1.6 18:14 < Mike1> huebi: what do you think? 18:14 < Mike1> LocalHero: nothing much just very very VERY tired 18:14 < huebi> Mike1: Yes, do it, please. That would be great. 18:15 -!- _NULL [~mail-spam@B53dd.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:15 < _NULL> re 18:15 < LocalHero> Mike1, well me to :).. Did you have time to get your isos? 18:15 < Mike1> huebi: so far we will support English (default), Spanish, German, Portuguess, Polish... more will come 18:15 < huebi> Mike1: Fantastic ;-)) 18:16 < Mike1> LocalHero: no not yet i am very busy developing stuff over here 18:16 < LocalHero> Mike1, what about swedish? :) 18:16 < Mike1> huebi: we will have the main documentation stuff and the install shell working on it 18:16 < huebi> I want to get internet in my new flat today. But there is still much to do for that. 18:17 < Mike1> LocalHero: if you would like to help us out and maintain the swedish yes we can do it 18:17 < LocalHero> Mike1, sure :). But now i need to prepare for a party. Cya l8er. Contact me on what to do and i will fix it :) 18:17 < Mike1> LocalHero: please read: https://www.rocklinux.org/people/mike/projects/multi-lang/multi.html 18:17 < Mike1> LocalHero: ok 18:17 < demian> re 18:17 < Mike1> re demian 18:18 < demian> um so lucky, didnt have classes ;-) 18:18 < LocalHero> cya all 18:18 < demian> cya alex 18:18 < demian> tcr: u here ? 18:18 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@alexander.lunds.lu.se] has quit () 18:18 < Mike1> huebi: so i will start including docs and stuff during the next days :) including versions of the rock linux guide 18:19 < huebi> Mike1: ack 18:19 < tcr> demian: jap 18:19 * Mike1 jumping around!! 18:20 < rolla> why 18:21 < ichilton> On the getting rock linux page, it says: 18:21 < Mike1> rolla i have been allowed to go on and include stuff of the multilanguage project on the cvs tree (/me is the project leader so its a great feeling) 18:21 < ichilton> If you build it yourself, you only need to download a single tar.bz2 containing the ROCK Linux sources. This archive contains our './scripts/Download' script which can be used to download the packages sources from one of our FTP mirrors. 18:21 < ichilton> What is that files name? I can't find it.. 18:22 < Mike1> ichilton: https://www.rocklinux.org/snapshots/ 18:22 < ichilton> oh, wait 18:22 < ichilton> https://www1.rocklinux.org/snapshots/rock-src-1.7-200209202113.tar.bz2 18:22 < ichilton> got it :) 18:22 < ichilton> it's the mirrors that's the problem 18:22 < ichilton> it says see the mirror lists and they take you off somewhere else to source trees with lists of packages 18:23 < ichilton> Mike1: thanks 18:23 < Mike1> hehe 18:23 < Mike1> ichilton: you are wlecome 18:23 * ichilton vanishes and downloads 18:23 < demian> tcr: da u have install_bin code near ? 18:24 < tcr> demian: could we talk in a quarter of an hour? i'm watchin tv at the moment 18:24 < demian> k, no prob 18:28 < tcr> huebi: have you the files in pub/music chmodded? 18:29 < _NULL> hi huebi. how are you ? 18:30 < tcr> demian: okay, be here now. but let me start my developing pc 18:31 < demian> Mike1: u were right, counter is increased when fails, and decreased when ^c is pressed 18:31 < demian> k 18:31 < Mike1> demian: i know :) 18:32 < demian> :) 18:32 < Mike1> demian: so will you fix it? 18:34 < tcr> Mike1: me does 18:34 < demian> im seeing now the 'wrapped text' thing first 18:34 < tcr> demian: mom 18:34 < Mike1> tcr: execellent 18:34 < demian> it is easy to fix, just add an 'c--' before print the error message, i guess 18:35 < Mike1> btw where do i get the install shell code i need to start working around it 18:35 < tcr> Mike1: i got it from Mike1, ask huebi -- he should have it 18:35 < tcr> esden 18:35 < demian> umm, base-config/install-disks/ 18:36 < Mike1> tcr: ok 18:36 < Mike1> huebi: ? 18:36 < demian> hehe, the face in the error message in taken from kernel sources for sparc ;-) 18:37 < tcr> okay demian 18:37 < tcr> the menu is now in front of me 18:40 < demian> tcr: how can i compile the menu.c ? 18:40 < tcr> is no make.sh provided? 18:41 < demian> no, im using bas-config/install-disks/*.c 18:41 < tcr> okay 18:41 < demian> i can build install_bin.c, not menu.c :-( 18:42 < tcr> gcc -o install_bin -Wall -Oß -lncurses -lreadline -DUSE_READLINE=1 -DUSE_MENU=1 -DROCKVER=\"1.5.19\" install_bin.c 18:44 < demian> the letter after the -O option, what is it ? i see a ß, and this is not valid 18:44 < demian> lemme prepare the install system.. 18:44 < tcr> 2 18:45 < tcr> -O2 18:45 < demian> k 18:45 < tcr> ow, the help message in the selector is not wrapped properly 18:45 < tcr> damn 18:46 < tcr> a lot of misswrapping *grr* 18:46 < demian> :p 18:56 < tcr> hm 18:57 < tcr> okay, the bug in the help menu should be fixed ... 18:59 < demian> i think i saw some misswrappings in summary, help and some package-info boxes 19:00 < tcr> help and package-info can i reproduce 19:00 < tcr> help and package-info i can reproduce 19:01 < demian> k 19:01 < tcr> but i wonder about another weird bug in helpmenu 19:02 < Mike1> praenti: awake? 19:05 < rxr> hi Mike1 19:05 < Mike1> hi rxr 19:10 < _NULL> dammit! in munich there might will be snow tomorrow! and in pfaffenhofen it was said that there's snow already! i can't believe it! igitt! 19:10 < tcr> what ??? 19:10 < tcr> i'll drive to oberammergau in a week 19:11 < _NULL> tcr: what do you plan to do there? skiing? 19:11 < tcr> no ... my parents want me to go with them 19:12 < _NULL> have fun then. also in ingolstadt (about 80 - 100 km far away from munich in the north of munich) there were about 5 ° C... 19:12 < tcr> i know ingoldstadt ... a good friend of mine is coming from eichstätt 19:12 < _NULL> tcr: *gg* take your ski with you... and enjoy the snow... ;P 19:12 < Mike1> my town is about 27C today i dont think it will snow today :PPP 19:12 < demian> what is supposed to be $STRIP variable ? 19:12 < _NULL> hehe ;) 19:13 < Mike1> demian: ask _NULL 19:13 < _NULL> Mike1: wuah. you can be really lucky... 19:13 < Mike1> _NULL: i know :) 19:13 < demian> _NULL: da u know what is the STRIP variable for ? 19:13 < _NULL> demian: i dunno. 19:13 < Mike1> *STRIP* *STRIP* *STRIP* 19:13 < _NULL> might you should ask Mike1... 19:14 < demian> this is used in install-disk.conf for STRIPTOOL 19:14 < Mike1> *g 19:14 < _NULL> *grml* 19:14 < Mike1> _NULL: i will not STRIP :P 19:14 * _NULL not too 19:14 < demian> i think should be a list of variables used 19:14 < demian> this make things easier 19:15 * Mike1 on the phone 19:15 * Mike1 needs huebi btw 19:15 < demian> im using STRIP=strip 19:17 < _NULL> dammit. in ZDF is a report about snow in germany... 19:19 < rolla> Owl 19:19 < _NULL> rolla: ?? 19:19 < _NULL> hi 19:21 < rolla> :) 19:24 < demian> ok, nice 19:24 < demian> cya later 19:40 < blindcoder> hi all 19:40 < blindcoder> Who is do blam for /etc/cron.d/20-logrotate ?? 19:40 < blindcoder> to blame 19:40 < blindcoder> dammit... need... sleep... or... coffee... 19:41 < _NULL> hi blindy 19:42 < blindcoder> sers nully :) 19:43 < _NULL> :PPP 19:44 < Mike1> yo blindcoder 19:45 < blindcoder> hi Mike1 19:46 < blindcoder> Mike1: does your XFree die when SIGHUP'd 19:46 < blindcoder> ? 19:46 < Mike1> blindcoder: dont think so why? 19:47 < blindcoder> mine does, and as such it is killed every night by /etc/cron.d/20-logrotate 19:48 < Mike1> lol 19:48 < Mike1> 20-logrotate i have not pyed attention to it , me looking at it 19:49 < blindcoder> short: if a log file is >4MB it rotates it and SIGHUPs the processes taht use it 19:51 < Mike1> mmm... thought ur xfree shouldnt die, it should be just restarted 19:51 < Mike1> perhaps you could modify it or even remove it if you dont like / want it 19:51 < blindcoder> well, that's just as annoying if ou have several dozen windows open and the screen just locked 19:51 < tcr> aaah!! fixed this damn help_box bug! 19:52 < Mike1> tcr: GOOD! 19:52 < blindcoder> I've temporarily removed it, but am searching for the cause of the problem 19:52 < Mike1> oh damn coffee is no longer working for me 19:52 < Mike1> sleep is to powerfull to contain it by now 19:53 < Mike1> but i must stay awake 19:53 < Mike1> dunno how but have to 19:53 < tcr> blindcoder: maybe setting xfree to verbose and see when it dies 19:54 < tcr> iirc it produces entries like ..time.. received SIGHUP... or so 19:54 < blindcoder> tcr: hmm... with an initial logfile of 4.7MB I wondered if it wasn't already in verbose... I'll try -loglevel then 19:55 * tcr is listening to Cruachan - Ó Ró Sé Do Bheatha Bhaile 19:55 < tcr> hm 19:55 < tcr> ??? what the - 19:56 < blindcoder> hmm... it may also be the new configuration... it does this only since I switched from one monitor using the nvidia-driver to a dual-mon-setup with "nv" and "tdfx"... 19:59 * Mike1 is away: having lunch 19:59 < tcr> blindcoder: what happens without these moduls? 20:00 < tcr> blindcoder: you could use the vga (or vesa?) driver instead 20:00 < blindcoder> the logfile is only some kB big instead of 4.7MB :) 20:01 < blindcoder> hmm... *writes that down* I'll give it a try during the weekend 20:02 < blindcoder> okay, I'm off again... bye and thanks 20:02 < tcr> mach's gut 20:05 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@alexander.lunds.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux 20:05 < LocalHero> Hi all :) 20:06 -!- tcr is now known as thalerim 20:07 -!- thalerim is now known as tcr 20:14 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@pD9E50202.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:18 < tcr> gonna reconnect 20:18 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49C10.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos") 20:18 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@dhcp024-210-222-139.woh.rr.com] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:19 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812E1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:20 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@alexander.lunds.lu.se] has quit () 20:23 < rolla> !seen fake 20:30 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@dhcp024-210-222-139.woh.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux 20:30 -!- chriZzz [~chrisime@pD9E50054.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:31 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD90485CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 20:33 < rolla> what happen to the mirror list for 1.7 ??? 20:34 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD90485CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:41 -!- kasc_ is now known as kasc 20:50 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812E1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos") 20:57 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49B88.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:57 < rolla> anybody out there ? 20:58 < _NULL> re 21:00 * Mike1 is back (gone 01:01:42) 21:01 < rolla> Owl you know what happened to the Mirror list from 1.7 CVS ? 21:01 < Mike1> rolla: ??? 21:01 < _NULL> rolla: sorry. no. i 'm not using 1.7 21:01 < rolla> maisenhe@bohr:/build/rock-src-1.7-200209202113/src$ cat Download-Mirror-List 21:01 < rolla> # Created from https://www.rocklinux.org/mirrors.txt # 21:01 < rolla> No mirror found for ROCK Linux Version 1.7-snapshot. 21:02 < _NULL> hmm... wait a second....didn't fake said something about that yesterday? 21:02 < Mike1> it looks ok if you access it from a web browser 21:02 < rolla> I am not sure but I think so 21:02 < rolla> yeah something about 0 length files 21:03 < Mike1> so check the log 21:03 < _NULL> hmm.... 21:03 < Mike1> we do have an icrlog for something dont we? 21:03 < rolla> :P 21:03 < _NULL> *ggg* 21:06 < rolla> well it says fake fixed it but it is not in cvs :( 21:06 < _NULL> that's bad 21:06 < Mike1> mm... 21:07 < rolla> need to wait for clifford to come back around 21:08 < Mike1> rolla: you can also ask rxr 21:10 < rolla> true 21:10 < rolla> I'll just go work on the other rock build and wait ;) 21:11 < Mike1> rolla you have rock-Gnome2 sources dont you ? 21:11 < rolla> yup 21:11 < Mike1> there you got something to work with 21:11 < Mike1> :) 21:11 < rolla> that is what I have moved on to work on 21:12 < Mike1> GREAT! 21:12 < rolla> I have two boxes with which to do builds 21:12 * Mike1 needs huebi 21:12 < rolla> I have to wait for downloads 21:12 < huebi> Mike1: re ;-) 21:13 * Mike1 got huebi :))) 21:13 < Mike1> huebi: i need the sources of the install shell so i can start working around multilang stuff 21:13 < tcr> Mike1: base-config/installö-disks/ 21:14 < Mike1> mmm.. ok 21:14 * Mike1 goes to the sources now 21:14 < Mike1> huebi: should i do the same kind of work with Config? 21:15 < huebi> Mike1: Yes, try it out ;-) 21:16 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-mu-10-1-dialup-67.freesurf.ch] has quit () 21:16 < Mike1> ack 21:17 < Mike1> we will have to add something like choice language or something like that 21:18 < tcr> Mike1 actually the menu is very intuitve 21:20 < Mike1> yeah 21:21 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082B43A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:21 < tsa> tag 21:21 < Mike1> hi tsa 21:21 < tsa> hi Mike1 21:21 < huebi> moin tsa ;-) I got your reminder but I'm still a little bit sick ;( 21:22 < Mike1> huebi: better make it 1/2 a bit sick :) 21:22 < tsa> huebi: ah, i see.. 21:22 < huebi> Mike1: Ack ;-) 21:22 < tsa> huebi: do you think i will recieve it before the end of this month? 21:22 < huebi> tsa: Yes, you will. 21:23 < tsa> (i'll have to do my "umsatzsteuervoranmeldung" then... 21:23 < tsa> ) 21:23 < tsa> ah, that's good.. 21:23 < tcr> lol hard to translate ;) 21:23 < tsa> indeed ;) 21:23 < Mike1> umsatzsteuervoranmeldung .... WTF is this? 21:24 < tcr> Mike1: umsatz = rate of selling and buying 21:24 < tcr> steuer = taxes 21:24 < tcr> voranmledung = pre-registration 21:24 < Mike1> tcr: declaracion of sales taxes? 21:25 < huebi> Mike1: VAT 21:25 < Mike1> declaration* 21:25 < Mike1> huebi: ah :) 21:25 < Mike1> huebi: thanks 21:25 < huebi> value added tax (declaration) I do not need to do that each quater ;-)))) 21:26 < tsa> Mike1: every three months, i have to send all my invoices to the local tax office so they can claim some money without doing anything for me.. 21:26 < Mike1> ack i know what it is now 21:26 < tcr> *gg* 21:26 < tsa> huebi: hm... 21:26 * Mike1 developed an application for doing such things online 21:27 < Mike1> in Costa Rica only of cours 21:27 < Mike1> +e 21:27 < tsa> Mike1: mankind has developed good shotguns to use with the tax office people, too... ;-) 21:27 < tsa> hm... i guess taxes are a lot lower in .cr .. 21:28 < Mike1> tsa: yes.. isnt evolution great? 21:28 < tsa> Mike1: yeah, sure ;-) 21:28 < Mike1> tsa: i dont know would have to find out how expensive they are in de 21:28 < huebi> tsa: Micronukes are _much_ more efficient ;> 21:28 < _NULL> moin tsa 21:28 < tsa> huebi: unfortunately, i currently don't have any.. 21:28 < tsa> tag _NULL 21:29 < tsa> huebi: ..but i like the idea, anyway ;) 21:29 < tsa> hm... 21:29 < tsa> btw...UT 2003 runs very good on rock linux. 21:29 < tsa> (demo 1) 21:34 < kasc> moin 21:34 < tsa> hi kasc 21:34 < kasc> hi tsa :) 21:34 < kasc> 288 Packete enthält mein rock 1.7 noch... 21:48 < rolla> they are really nice boxes but built in nic cards are 10M only 21:56 < tsa> boxes for which purpose? 21:56 < rolla> Alpha stations 500 21:57 < tsa> ah, nice. 21:57 < Mike1> cool 21:59 -!- Netsplit brunner.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: demian, coldie_, ichilton, xlock, th, rxr, bluefire 21:59 -!- Netsplit over, joins: bluefire, ichilton, demian, rxr, coldie_, th, xlock 22:01 < tcr> https://freebits.de/trash/sonstiges/patches/install_menu/install_shell-24-09-02.diff 22:02 < tcr> demian: present? 22:02 < Mike1> tcr: i think d3bian went away 22:03 < tcr> hm... i need someone who could try the patch above out 22:03 < tcr> i'm not sure if it fixes the bug that causes the wrong number of packages 22:13 < tcr> gn8 22:13 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49B88.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos") 22:16 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-169-50.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:19 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-171-50.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22:21 -!- CaSPar [~steven261@M138P009.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 22:34 -!- chrisime is now known as chrisi 22:35 -!- chrisi is now known as chrisime 22:40 -!- CaSPar [~steven261@M138P009.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has left #rocklinux () 22:45 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD90485CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Lost terminal") 22:59 -!- Sch0rSch [georg@op-co.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:59 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:59 -!- Sch0rSch is now known as Ge0rG 23:06 -!- demian_ [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 23:06 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:15 < _NULL> re 23:15 < Mike1> re 23:15 * Mike1 leaving 23:16 < Mike1> see you tomorrow 23:16 < _NULL> bye Mike1 23:16 -!- Mike1 is now known as Mike1^zZzZ 23:48 -!- Sch0rSch [georg@op-co.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:56 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) --- Log closed Wed Sep 25 00:00:31 2002