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00:25 < Freak> schlaft gut, ihr süßen
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00:27 < snyke> öhm.
00:27 < snyke> wasn das für einer *g*
00:32 * Mike1 leaves to uni now
00:32 < Mike1> see you guys
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00:44 < kasc> re
00:45 < esden> re kasc
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01:33 < esden> bleh urghs : https://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2002/10/10/intro_gentoo.html
01:33 < esden> we need a gentoo target ;-)
01:33 < esden> someone still alive ?
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03:26 < esden> argh I hate my own stupidity >_<
04:17 < esden> n8
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09:56 < tcr> moin all
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11:33 < blindcoder> hi
11:33 < blindcoder> anyone in?
11:35 < blindcoder> *MEEP*
11:35 * blindcoder 's on rotation
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12:54 < [anders]> narf!
12:57 < esden> morning
13:01 < [anders]> moin esden
13:02 * [anders] is at "work" (customer site).. Was rather hoping not having to work this weekend, but the need was there so...
13:06 < esden> poor guy :-/
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13:44 < SMP> rxr: anwesend?
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14:45 < bluefire> Moin
15:43 < esden> re
15:45 < aszlig> wb
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15:58 < holyolli> moin
16:03 < blindcoder> oi!
16:03 < blindcoder> damn it...
16:03 < holyolli> hi blindcoder
16:03 < blindcoder> is there any way to reset a CD-Rom-Drive without rebooting?
16:03 < blindcoder> hi holyolli
16:04 < blindcoder> hmm.... I could pull the power plug of the drive....
16:05 < holyolli> i think thats one possibility
16:06 < blindcoder> okay, if I'm gone in a few seconds then you know taht you shouldn't do this :)
16:07 < holyolli> *g*
16:07 < holyolli> good luck...! ;)
16:07 < blindcoder> thanks :)
16:07 < blindcoder> hmm
16:07 < snyke> hi benji
16:07 < blindcoder> okay, PULLING works
16:07 < blindcoder> now on putting it back into place
16:08 < blindcoder> *test*
16:08 < blindcoder> sw33t...
16:08 < aszlig> blindcoder: hehe, try using fuser :P
16:08 < blindcoder> fuser???
16:09 < blindcoder> have you lost the last bits of sanity?
16:11 < aszlig> blindcoder: hrm, why?
16:12 < blindcoder> what good would fuser do with a cdrdao-distorted CD-Writer?
16:12 < esden> so
16:12 < esden> hi blindcoder
16:12 < esden> danke fuer die mail
16:12 < blindcoder> hi esden
16:12 < blindcoder> esden: np :)
16:12 < holyolli> hi esden
16:14 < blindcoder> aszlig!!!
16:14 < blindcoder> comment plz!!!
16:15 < esden> argh
16:15 < aszlig> re
16:15 < aszlig> blindcoder: whet did you want to reset?
16:16 < blindcoder> it's a ide-scsi IDE-CD-Writer
16:16 < blindcoder> and it tries to read CDs for about a minute or two and then says there's no CD in it
16:16 < blindcoder> cdrdao unlock didn't help
16:16 < aszlig> blindcoder: oh...
16:16 < blindcoder> and cdrdao write gives me WARNING: Unit not ready, still trying...
16:17 < blindcoder> so, what good would FUSER do there?
16:17 < aszlig> blindcoder: then fuser wasn't a good idea..
16:17 < blindcoder> right...
16:17 < blindcoder> I can tell whether my CD is mounted or not
16:17 < aszlig> blindcoder: you didn't explain exactly..
16:17 < blindcoder> *sigh*
16:17 < blindcoder> okay, have to reboot....
16:17 < aszlig> blindcoder: c'ya later ;)
16:17 < blindcoder> cause unplugging the power cord to the drive didn't work either
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16:21 < tcr> re all
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16:22 < blindcoder> aaah.... tell me it isn't true..
16:23 < blindcoder> looks like my CD-Writer is finished....
16:23 < blindcoder> as in destroyed, unusable, damaged, fucked up beyond all repair
16:23 < aszlig> blindcoder: gimme!
16:23 < blindcoder> aszlig: can it
16:23 < aszlig> blindcoder: hmm ;)
16:24 < blindcoder> *argh*
16:24 < blindcoder> and it's too late to buy one, too *grrrr*
16:24 < aszlig> blindcoder: hrm...
16:29 < blindcoder> ~aaah.... this sucks....
16:30 < blindcoder> This is another one of these days.
16:30 < blindcoder> But, somehow, each day seems to become one of those days.
16:30 < snyke> hum.
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16:32 < owl> seid gegruesst (hi) ;)
16:33 < blindcoder> hi owly
16:33 < owl> moin blindy ;)
16:46 < esden> puhh
16:47 < owl> moin esden
16:47 < esden> blindcoder: are you home ?
16:47 < esden> hi owl
16:47 < esden> blindcoder: would you like to go bitz and hack on the login manager ?
16:47 < esden> and I have also to talk with you ...
16:48 < blindcoder> yes I'm home
16:48 < blindcoder> hmm... sounds good
16:48 < esden> we have decisions to take ;-/
16:48 < esden> ok ...
16:48 < esden> i will call you when I go to bitz
16:48 < blindcoder> gimme half an hour
16:48 < esden> ....
16:48 < blindcoder> I can't do anything here now anyway
16:48 < esden> I have an idea
16:48 < blindcoder> You know that I have only about an hour from now?
16:49 < blindcoder> my parents have Silberhochzeit today and that emans I have to be at a Familymeeting by 18 o'clock
16:49 * tcr <- shower
16:49 < blindcoder> have fun :)
16:50 < blindcoder> ja ne
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17:28 < fake> hi\
17:29 < litost> morning fake
17:30 < owl> tach fake
17:31 < fake> hm... erstma eine rauchen.
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17:59 < tcr> re all
18:19 < owl> re.
18:19 < owl> hi tcr#
18:19 < tcr> moin owl
18:20 < owl> tcr: do you know a implementation / library / whatever of the V.25 AT-command-set?
18:21 < tcr> no, but i know what the sense of life is ;P
18:22 < owl> tcr: *g* i know it, too. i ound it. it's called: trying to develop an application for using ericsson T39m mobile phone and connecting it to a laptop using irda ;PPP
18:24 < tcr> i'd write them an email about information.. etc
18:27 < owl> tcr: i have the whole documentation... and as it seems i need a "layer" between t39m and computer with which i can send over irda the AT-commands using the v.25 protocol/at-command-set
18:27 < tcr> i'll lokk what i can find ... but now i'm watchin tv
18:28 < owl> ok. thx a lot ;)
18:28 < owl> tcr: what's on tv? something interesting?
18:29 < esden> re hi all
18:29 < snyke> re esdi
18:29 < owl> re esden, hi snyke
18:30 < esden> ok the machine of my parents is working again
18:30 < tcr> owl: family guy
18:30 < owl> tcr: hm? what's that?
18:35 < tcr> now it'll come switch
18:36 < tcr> owl: do you have this documentation: https://www.ericsson.com/mobilityworld/developerszonedown/downloads/docs/t68/t68_at_commands_dg_ver1_external.pdf ?
18:36 < owl> tcr: what are you watching? are you sure that you are currently watching to german tv and not to - i dunno - arabic tv or so...? i haven't ever heard about things you are watching. *cyn*
18:36 < tcr> Pro7, heidin
18:36 < owl> tcr: nope. about the t39m
18:37 < owl> tcr: why "heidin" eh?
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18:52 < tsa> tag
18:52 < owl> tach tsa
18:53 < tsa> hola owlita
18:54 < tcr> owl: hmm
18:54 < owl> tcr: sprich dich ruhig aus... also. warum?
18:54 < tcr> do you know the `cu' programm?
18:55 < owl> tcr: huh?
18:55 < tcr> IIRC it's able to use those AT commands as well
18:55 < tcr> maybe looking up the source of it will help you
18:55 < owl> i c. hm. where can i find it?
18:56 < owl> and what AT-command-set is it using? v.24 or v.25 or which...? or is there any difference?
18:56 < tcr> dunno, it's an old command, used for UUCP networks
18:56 < tcr> and what about minicom?
18:56 < tcr> the source of that is probably easier to find
18:57 < owl> tcr: still i don't know ti.
18:57 < owl> s/ti/it
18:57 < tcr> what?
18:57 < owl> (wuah. today i can't even type in the letters)
18:57 < owl> i dunno minicom. the source of it.
18:57 < tcr> you don't know minicom?
18:57 < owl> the source of minicom.
18:58 < tcr> gnu.org? freshmeat?
18:59 < owl> yeah... moment... downloading an iso... that will still take about 25 hours...so might i will have a look at tomorrow..
18:59 < owl> s/tomorrow/on monday
18:59 < owl> (omg. where's my brain gone to..? damn headache)
19:01 < tcr> don't be that hard to yourself, hey you're just a woman
19:01 < tcr> ;P
19:01 < tcr> tsa: please carry on ;)
19:01 < owl> tcr: don't bug me. you are just a man. so you have even no right to live.
19:02 < tcr> https://www.netsonic.fi/~walker/minicom.html
19:02 < owl> the source?
19:02 < tcr> https://www.netsonic.fi/~walker/minicom-2.00.0.src.tar.gz
19:03 < tcr> taking looking at it.
19:03 < owl> thx. you are my god ;PP
19:05 < tcr> no, i'm just a man ... haha
19:05 < owl> *lol* yep
19:05 < owl> you are righ. so you are nothing ;P thx. that you reminded me
19:07 < owl> np: totenmond - ragnarok
19:14 < tcr> 8) kewl in some area it uses the old function definition style
19:19 < th> wie issen grad der maximalbetrag fuer auszahlbare kilometerpauschale bei dienstfahrten?
19:19 < th> 26cent?
19:30 < tsa> kA
19:33 < th> oha hier steht was von 30
19:33 < th> +2 cent pro zusaetzlichen mitfahrer
19:33 < th> boah das is mir zu doof ich schreib doch nich auch noch die mitfahrer ins f-buch
19:40 < aszlig> uff
19:40 < aszlig> rocklinux deadlocks if you delete modules.dep
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19:43 < aszlig> when trying to modprobe a module it loops saying: "modprobe: modprobe: Can't opne dependencies file /lib/modules/2.4.18/modules.dep (No such file or directory)
19:43 < aszlig> "
19:43 < aszlig> ;)
19:43 < aszlig> s/opne/open/
19:45 < aszlig> after some time (and some loops of modprobe) the memory goes out...
19:45 < tcr> does it exist at all?
19:45 < aszlig> "Out of Memory: Killed process 1 (init)."
19:45 < aszlig> tcr: what?
19:45 < tcr> that file
19:45 < aszlig> tcr: modules.dep?
19:45 < tcr> joh
19:46 < aszlig> tcr: only, if you have loadable modules set in kernel
19:47 < tcr> if you want to modprove anything, i assume you have it
19:47 < aszlig> tcr: i found that problem, because i deselected networking in kernel
19:47 < aszlig> tcr: hehe, i don't want that ;)
19:48 < tcr> is it a fault of modprove then?
19:48 < tcr> arghs
19:48 < aszlig> tcr: nope...
19:48 < tcr> modpro__b__e
19:48 < tcr> what then?
19:48 < tcr> and about what are you complaining?
19:48 < aszlig> brb, tele
19:49 < aszlig> re
19:49 < aszlig> tcr: thats a prob in the boot-scritp
19:50 < aszlig> tcr: it checks for the wrong exitlevel
19:50 < tcr> grep 'modprobe' /etc/init.d/*; echo $?
19:50 < tcr> 1
19:51 < aszlig> mom...
19:51 < tcr> only /etc/conf/kernel will be ``sourced''
19:52 < tcr> at this file doesn't contain any modprobes on default -- i'm talking about 1.5
19:52 < tcr> owl?
19:52 < aszlig> uh..
19:52 < aszlig> thas a prob in kmod...
19:52 < tcr> ?
19:53 < aszlig> on "ifconfig" there is no error-checking at all
19:55 < tcr> ???
19:55 < tcr> owl !!! still there?
19:58 < aszlig> xx ifconfig $IF $IPADDR netmask $NETMASK up
19:59 < tcr> filename@line: ?
20:00 < aszlig> /etc/conf/network
20:00 < tsa> /etc/conf/network, AFAIK
20:01 < tcr> uh
20:01 < tcr> -rw-r-----
20:01 < tcr> all other files in /etc/conf have -rw-rw-r--
20:01 < tcr> *tsts*
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20:03 < tcr> ok, got it
20:06 < tcr> tsts owl
20:16 < th> tcr: what's your problem with modprobe?
20:18 < tcr> nuthin :) but aszlig is right, could be a possible bug in kmod ... am going to take a closer look after meal
20:18 < th> i don't use kmod ;)
20:21 < tsa> cu
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20:33 < tcr> hm
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20:35 < thalerim> damn!!
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20:42 < thalerim> tsts
20:42 < thalerim> th: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/kmod.txt
20:43 < thalerim> th: at the bottom
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20:45 < th> tcr: i see... well does not affect me. i don't use kmod at all
20:47 < tcr> i'm just wondering... according to aszlig ifconfig tries to set a device up, anyhow it generates a reqest_modul() call, although no module support is compiled into the kernel
20:47 < tcr> that's why no modules.dep exist and it goes into a loop
20:48 < th> no module support at all?
20:48 < th> so there should be no kmod
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20:49 < owl> re
20:49 < owl> tcr: was war?
20:49 < tcr> th: yes.. dunno.. didn't understand aszlig corrently then
20:50 < tcr> owl: ich hab mir diesen verfluchten source reingezogen und du haust einfach ab
20:50 < owl> tcr: tschuldigung. ich habe mir ein wenig dokus reingezogen... und zwar ausgedruckt. deshalb ned auf den monitor geguckt...
20:51 < tcr> hrhr
20:51 < tcr> also
20:52 < tcr> es benutzt ioctl um das device zu initializieren, also setzen von baudrate, parity und anderen bits
20:52 < owl> tcr: wie gesagt: ich werde eh erst frühestens am montag mir minicom runterladen. und: ich werde wohl erst montag in einer woche (eher dienstag) anfangen richtig mit dem ericsson-zeugs anzufangen. (wenn ich das asus habe und aus berlin zurück bin)
20:52 < owl> ok. thx
20:52 < tcr> dann hat es in einer structure strings die bestimmte at kommandos repräsentieren
20:53 < tcr> "^M~ATZ^M~" z.b. für das reseten
20:53 < owl> hm
20:53 < owl> ok.
20:53 < tcr> dann gibt es eine funktion mputs() die diese strings auswertet
20:53 < tcr> z.b. ^ + einen buchstaben wird mit 31 logisch AND verknüpft
20:54 < th> owl: btw. stty koennte interessant fuer dich sein.
20:54 < tcr> 31 is binary 11.111
20:54 < th> owl: zum setzen von /dev/tts/ options
20:54 < owl> th: ok. danke.
20:54 < tcr> ich vermute mal dass dadurch control-zeichen emuliert werden
20:54 < tcr> wie ESC, etc
20:55 < tcr> weil ja wenn man eine zahl (ein buchstabe ist ja eine zahl) mit 11111 AND, höchstens 11111 rauskommen kann, was 31 ist
20:55 < tcr> also assci-zeichen 31, weiß der teufel was das ist
20:55 < owl> ok. werde ich mir ansehen. wenn ich soweit bin...
20:56 < tcr> dann gibt es noch bestimmte metachars für den Username bzw. Passwort und um zu signaliersieren dass eine sekunde gewartet werden soll
20:56 < tcr> mputs() schreibt dann die ausgewerteten sachen direkt auf das device
20:57 < tcr> das dürfte eigentlich alles sein, was dich zu interessieren hat IMHO
20:57 < tcr> das steht in den dateien: rwconf.c, configsym.h, dial.c und sysdep1.c
20:57 < owl> ok, dankeschoen
20:57 < tcr> kein problem ;P
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21:10 < d3mian> hi
21:10 < d3mian> i need to do a find command line but i have probs to get what i want..
21:11 < owl> hi d3mian
21:11 < d3mian> find * -path "proc" -prune -print -path "dev" -prune -print
21:12 < d3mian> this is supposed to print me all the fies listed excluding proc and dev paths, but.. this duplied lines in output :(
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21:16 < d3mian> oh hi owl ! :)
21:18 < tcr> d3mian: find / -path '/proc' -path '/dev' -prune -o -print
21:20 < d3mian> thanx tcr , ur great!
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21:20 < thalerim> d3mian: sorry
21:20 < thalerim> wait up
21:21 < d3mian> doesnt work yet
21:21 < d3mian> :(
21:22 < thalerim> d3mian: find / \( -path '/proc' -o -path '/dev' \) -prune -o -print
21:22 < thalerim> that works
21:22 < thalerim> to see easier add a -maxdepth 1
21:23 < d3mian> cool !, didnt know one could use parentheses
21:24 < d3mian> yeah, thanx a lot :)
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21:29 < holyolli> re
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21:33 < holyolli> esden?
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21:36 < theDOC> someone there?
21:36 < holyolli> yes..
21:37 < theDOC> cool, maybe u can help me
21:37 < holyolli> what's up?
21:37 < holyolli> theDOC: du kannst bei bedarf aber auch deutsch schreiben... ;)
21:37 < theDOC> besser :D
21:38 < theDOC> hab gestern rock 1.5 von nem iso installiert, alles war toll, mit chroot nochmal eingelogged um lilo zu installieren, aber mein /dev verz. war leer
21:38 < theDOC> warum?
21:39 < holyolli> vieleicht weil du es nicht gemountet hast? rocklinux benutzt das devfs - also ein eigenes dateisystem fuer /dev
21:40 < holyolli> du kannst es mit 'mount -t devfs none /dev' mounten - es sollte aber auch in der fstab drinstehen
21:41 < theDOC> naja, das war direkt nach install, hatte noch nicht neu gebootet
21:41 < theDOC> ging ja auch nich, kein lilo
21:41 < tcr> /src/dev
21:41 < tcr> nicht /dev
21:42 < holyolli> tcr: stimmt..ich ging von der chroot aus...
21:42 < theDOC> also wenn ich mich vorher mit chroot einlogge, dann /dev ja?
21:42 < tcr> joh
21:42 < theDOC> gut
21:43 < holyolli> jepp
21:43 < tcr> theDOC: hm
21:43 < tcr> eigentlich sollte man procfs und devfs vor der installation nach /sr mounten
21:43 < tcr> /src
21:43 < tcr> weil wenn man nach der installation die configscripts ausführt, sind die notwendig (zumindestens proc)
21:44 < theDOC> also wenn ich von der cd boote, dann gibts ja auch /dev, aber als alles fertig war, und ich mich eingelogged hab, wars weg
21:45 < theDOC> die scripte und alles haben ja auch funktioniert
21:47 < tcr> okay dann
21:47 < theDOC> naja, muss ich wohl noch viel lernen =)
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21:48 < Mike1> moin
21:48 < holyolli> hola Mike1
21:48 < Mike1> Hola CPT. holyolli
21:49 < tcr> moin Mike1
21:49 < owl> re
21:49 < holyolli> como eastas, dr. inf. Mike1? ;)
21:49 < tcr> jacky chan rules
21:49 < owl> hi holyolli, Mike1
21:49 < holyolli> hi owl
21:49 < Mike1> holyolli: :)
21:49 < Mike1> owlita como estas mi amor?
21:50 < Mike1> *g
21:50 < holyolli> *lol*
21:50 < owl> MIKE!!!
21:50 * Mike1 getting a flashback
21:50 * holyolli just hugs owl
21:50 -!- Mike1 is now known as irda
21:50 < owl> HOLLYOLLI!
21:50 < owl> ./kill hugging peoply
21:50 < irda> owly hi :)
21:50 < owl> hi
21:50 < irda> last n8 was amazing
21:51 -!- irda is now known as Mike1
21:51 < holyolli> *fg*
21:51 < owl> pah
21:51 < owl> holyolli: you should better ignore Mike1
21:52 < Mike1> owl: why? i thought we were not going to keep it secret anymore
21:52 < holyolli> owl: why?
21:52 < holyolli> ;)
21:52 < owl> holyolli: *gggg* because comments like the written above...
21:53 < theDOC> bye, n thx for help!
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21:54 < Mike1> holyolli: btw dr. inf. ? whats that?
21:54 < holyolli> its something like "doctor of computer science"... ;)
21:55 < tcr> doctore informatica
21:55 < tcr> ;P
21:55 < holyolli> (computer science == informatik)
21:55 < holyolli> tcr: hehe
21:55 < Mike1> :P
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21:56 < d3mian> re
21:56 < holyolli> hi d3mian
21:56 < Mike1> holyolli: how many flight hours do you have so far?
21:57 < Mike1> moin d3mian
21:57 < d3mian> cya later.. some days
21:57 * owl leaves you now.
21:57 < owl> gn8. cu.
21:57 < Mike1> owly n8
21:57 < holyolli> cu owl
21:57 < holyolli> Mike1: at the moment only those private hours with gliders and ultralight planes....
21:57 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958D82C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
21:57 < holyolli> (but round about 400h theory)
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21:58 < Mike1> holyolli: hehe nice
21:58 < Mike1> 400 IF hours?
21:58 < thalerim> damn, i apologizy for my connection problems
21:58 < thalerim> s,y,e,1
21:58 < holyolli> Mike1: i'll have my practical lessons from 02/2003 on
21:58 < Mike1> thalerim: no problem but i think tcr is starting be pissed off
21:58 < holyolli> Mike1: IF?
21:58 < Mike1> *g
21:59 < Mike1> Instruments Flight
21:59 < holyolli> ah
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21:59 < holyolli> well, we have theory of VFR and IFR in parallel
21:59 < Mike1> nice
21:59 < holyolli> and also some of the ATPL stuff
22:00 < holyolli> but the last not that much so far
22:00 < Mike1> neat
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22:37 < chrisbb> ls
22:37 < chrisbb> ops, sorry
22:37 < holyolli> bin dev home lost+found nfs_home proc sbin usr vol
22:37 < holyolli> boot etc lib mnt opt root tmp var
22:37 < holyolli> ;)
22:37 < chrisbb> :)
22:38 < chrisbb> i have a question about interaction between pcmcia-cs and the default kernel has anybody a hint
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22:38 < chrisbb> and someknowledge about that topic
22:40 < holyolli> chrisbb: do you mean detailled stuff between those drivers?
22:43 < chrisbb> no not so much in detail, the thing i wonder about is that the pcmcia-cs of rock says that i should compile the pcmcia-cs from source and this source says that it would compile but would omit the drivers
22:44 < holyolli> i'm not sure, but the drivers have to be compiled in the kernel, havent they?
22:45 < holyolli> but i don't know much about pcmcia-cs
22:45 < chrisbb> no, the pcmcia drivers are modules that are loaded if the card is inserted
22:46 < chrisbb> but rock has kernel built-it pcmcia support for the bus, but few drivers
22:48 < tcr> the first thing you should do is always to compile you own kermel
22:48 < tcr> +r
22:48 < tcr> kermel *lol* ;P
22:49 < holyolli> *g*
22:49 < chrisbb> tcr: that was the first thing i did, i said i used the default kernel to simplify things
22:50 * holyolli trying a new alpha kernel....bbl
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22:51 < chrisbb> but don't mind! i will erase pcmcia support from the kernel and use the userland tools and modules, also if that is not the wanted solution but the quickest
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