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   The ROCK Linux project has been discontinued in 2010. Here are the old data for the historical record!

--- Log opened Thu Oct 31 00:00:10 2002
--- Day changed Thu Oct 31 2002
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00:15 < tsa> n8
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00:16 < holyolli> n8 tsa
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00:16 < Freak> hum
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00:38 < d3mian> hi
01:04 < Freak> nite
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07:17 < huebi> Moin!
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07:38 < holyolli_> moin huebi
07:38 < huebi> moin holyolli ;-)
07:38 < holyolli_> huebi: bist du immer so frueh auf den beinen?
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07:39 < huebi> holyolli_: Na, wier gehts? Noe, normalerweise erst so ab 8h00
07:39 < holyolli_> huebi: /me ist im moment noch etwas traege...war gestern auf dem freimarkt (sowas wie kirmes hier in bremen, bloss sehr gross)
07:40 < huebi> hehe
07:40 < huebi> Norddeutsches ktoberfest, so mit Tee und Grog...
07:41 < holyolli_> genau
07:41 < holyolli_> :)
07:41 < holyolli_> und ner menge lustiger fahrgeschaefte
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07:42 < huebi> Ich habe gestern mit dem AMD Development Center Manager gesprochen: Es gibt sehr wahrscheinlich einen account auf einem Hammer fuer den x86-64 port.
07:42 < holyolli> ui. nicht schlecht
07:42 < huebi> JO ;-)
07:43 < huebi> Ich bin so zufaellig gestern auf dem AMD Developer Symposium gelanded. Eigendlich wollte ich ja nur zur LinuxWorld in FFM.
07:43 < holyolli> *lol*
07:44 < huebi> Gute Vortraege, nicht so'n doofes Marketinggeschwafel.
07:44 < holyolli> *g*
07:46 < huebi> Der erste Vortrag, in den ich hineingestolpert bin, war genau ueber den 64Bit port. Das war ein richtiges Deja Vu. Den ganzen Kram habe ich jetzt beim sparc64 Port gerade noch einmal selber erlebt.
07:47 < holyolli> hehe..auch nicht schlecht
07:47 < holyolli> args! ich muss los
07:48 < holyolli> *grummel*
07:48 < huebi> holyolli: Viel Spass
07:48 < holyolli> <- unmotiviert...
07:48 < holyolli> ;)
07:48 < holyolli> die ersten 3 (zeit-)stunden haben wir navigation...
07:48 < holyolli> naja...bis spaeter
07:48 < huebi> cu
07:48 < huebi> "Wo bin ich?"
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08:13 < esden> morning
08:13 < esden> ojemene ...
08:13 * -> esden macht heute blau ... 
08:14 < esden> bleibt daheim und coded
08:14 < huebi> hi esden
08:14 < huebi> esden: am LCD PATCH?
08:14 < esden> nope ... das mache ich auch heute hoechstwahrscheinlich
08:14 < esden> was war der bug nochmal ?
08:14 < huebi> esden <- Hat den 30 Stunden Tag erfunden...
08:15 < esden> ich bin seid gestern um 17:00 auf den beinen
08:15 < huebi> das Build-All macht irgendwas nich richtig. Ich weiss nicht mehr genau
08:15 < esden> ich werde mich dann in paar stunden fuer ne weile schlafen legen ...
08:15 < esden> ja irgendwas bringt mich nicht sehr weit ;-)
08:16 < huebi> Jo, und ich bastel gerade an der Entfernung von termcap aus rock
08:20 < esden> oje
08:21 < esden> ok noch ne mail an die rlml geschickt
08:21 < huebi> was schreibst du denn?
08:21 < esden> ich bin heute ziemlich schreibwuetig fuer meine verhaeltnisse ;-)
08:21 < esden> ueber den dietlibc schrottfug
08:21 < huebi> hehe
08:23 < huebi> Mist. ohne termcap geht kein editor. Werde wohl mit sed basteln muessen.
08:24 < esden> ok mail angekommen
08:24 < esden> wass willst termcap mit sed nachbauen ? ;-)
08:25 < huebi> esden: Noe, aber sed geht halt auch als editor.
08:25 < huebi> sed s/^srctar=.*// <base-config/nvi/nvi.conf >base-config/nvi/nvi.conf.tmp
08:26 < esden> ojee
08:26 < esden> geht ed nicht ?
08:27 < huebi> doch, aber den kenn' ich nicht.
08:29 < blindcoder> moin
08:30 < esden> ja ist ein argument
08:30 < esden> morgen blindy
08:30 < huebi> hi blindcoder
08:30 < esden> blindcoder: darfst mich heute abend schlagen
08:30 < esden> und auch loben
08:30 < blindcoder> esden: mit vergnuegen
08:30 < esden> rate mal warum ?
08:31 < blindcoder> 30h tag
08:31 < esden> ja und noch was
08:32 < blindcoder> hm?
08:33 < esden> wenn es so weiter geht habe ich bis heute abend den neuen bchat kern am laufen mit multithreading, und schoenem aufgereumten code ;-)
08:34 < huebi> Ein Wunder, ein Wunder... Aufgeraeumter, lesbarer code.
08:34 < esden> ja ;-)
08:34 < blindcoder> baka
08:34 < esden> was denn ?
08:34 < esden> aja ... screen -x rult ;-)
08:34 * blindcoder wird wohl nen artikel schreiben duerfen
08:34 < esden> aja ?
08:34 < esden> ueber was ?
08:34 < esden> ahh
08:35 < esden> den sparc port ?
08:35 < esden> hehe blindcoder wird prominent ;-)
08:36 < esden> ich glaube ich sollte die lichter in meinem zimmer jetzt ausschalten
08:37 < blindcoder> hehe
08:38 * blindcoder hat immer noch leichte probleme mit der tastatur
08:38 < huebi> blindcoder: Fuer wen darfst du denn schreiben?
08:39 < esden> huebi: rolling rock ...
08:39 < esden> du solltest dir auch ueberlegen ob du was schreiben willst ;-)
08:39 < huebi> axh so
08:40 < blindcoder> jepp
08:40 * blindcoder loves this monitor *hug*
08:40 < esden> blindcoder: using dvorak ?
08:41 < blindcoder> yes
08:41 < blindcoder> https://brak.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/10/30/0238245
08:41 < esden> cool ;-)
08:42 < blindcoder> has Linus lost his mind?!?
08:42 < esden> blindcoder: aber du hast deine tastatur verunstaltet nicht wahr ?
08:42 * -> esden reading
08:42 < blindcoder> klar doch :)
08:42 < huebi> esden: Was clifford da will, ist mir viel zu umstaendlich. Ich vergesse immer wieder, wie das geschrieben sein soll und das Uploaden weiss ich nach 2 Tagen auch nicht mehr.
08:43 < esden> ahh this I read it on the lkml
08:43 < huebi> esden: hae?
08:43 < blindcoder> huebi: Crypto in vanilla-kernel
08:44 < esden> huebi: ich meine nicht mirrors
08:44 < esden> ahsoo
08:44 < huebi> nett
08:44 < esden> du meinst uploaden in deinen home auf rocklinux.org ist zu umstaendlich ?
08:44 < esden> huebi: ausserdem es muss nicht lang sein
08:45 < esden> du hast es in 15 min geschrieben und upgeloaded
08:47 < blindcoder>  brb, checking new iproute2
08:47 < huebi> Ich werde nur noch an die Mailingliste schreiben. Den Webkram soll jemand machen, der das kann. Diese umstaendlich Prozedur kostet mich zu viel Zeit. Ausserdem habe ich garantiert mein Passwort vergessen.
08:48 < esden> *kopfschuettel*
08:48 < huebi> esden: Mach du das doch einfach.
08:48 < esden> ich bin nicht so mit 1.5 vertraut das ich es machen koennte
08:49 < esden> zumindest mommentan nicht
08:49 < huebi> aber wenn ich mir das genau ueberlege reicht es auch hier im chat. Das ist dann sowieso alles in den logs.
08:50 < esden> huebi: dann schreibe doch ne mail an cliff mit dem inhalt von deinem artickel ... und sage ihm er soll es in form bringen und in den issue includen
08:50 < esden> das waehre doch ein guter kompromiss .. oder ?
08:51 < huebi> besser noch an die mailingliste. Auf der webseite findet man sowieso nichts.
08:51 < esden> ja kannst auch machen
08:55 < huebi> Warum gibt es eigendlich keinen Webmaster, der die Webseite mal in ein funktionierendes Konzept steckt?
08:56 < esden> weil sich niemand gefunden hat es zu tun ... oder wir niemanden in unseren reihen haben der sowas koennte
08:57 < blindcoder> re
08:57 < esden> re blindcoder 
08:57 < esden> blindcoder: zauber einen webdesigner her !
08:58 < blindcoder> -<poof>-
08:58 < esden> der auch sich zum webmastern verpflichtet
08:58 < esden> ahh schoen ... wie heisst der typ/tusse ? 
08:58 < blindcoder> hmm wir koennten AJ fragen :)
08:58 < esden> ist es vielleicht der blindcoder 
08:58 < esden> ?
08:58 < blindcoder> nfw
08:59 < esden> ja ... aber es muesste eigentlich ein rocklinux user sein denn sonnst hat die person zu wenig motivation
09:00 * blindcoder kann net designen
09:00 < esden> ja es geht eher darum die seite in einen lesbaren und aufgereumten zustand zu bringen
09:01 < esden> weniger das design aendern
09:01 < huebi> Genau,
09:01 < esden> das design ist eigentlich gut
09:01 * -> esden hat sich drann gewoehnt
09:01 < huebi> Aber dass Aussehen der Seite kann auch mal schicker werden.
09:01 < esden> es ist fuer mich zu hell ... aber mei
09:02 * blindcoder kann ja net amal gscheit tippen
09:02 < huebi> esden: Schware Schrift auf schwarzem Grund bei ausgeschaltetem Monitor? *g*
09:03 < esden> huebi: :P
09:05 < blindcoder> hmm
09:05 < blindcoder> patching the cross-compiler works wrong
10:04 < esden> ok now I can chat with the new core  over telnet ...
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10:13 < Freak> "Aufgrund Ihrer DN ist eine Auswahl eher wahrscheinlich nur über die Wartezeitqoute ausgewählt zu werden. Zur Zeit braucht man ungefähr 6 Wartesemester um für den Studiengang Medizin ausgewählt werden zu können." -- ich krieg die Krise.
10:14 < capchaos> medizin? *wunder*
11:10 < blindcoder> oooookay, iproute2 now x-compiling
11:13 < fake> tagchen
11:14 < blindcoder> hi fake
11:16 < blindcoder> fake: I think I know how to compile on the sparc64: LD_INCLUDE_PATH should help me :(
11:16 < blindcoder> btw: kommst du heute abend mit?
11:16 < blindcoder> :)
11:16 < blindcoder> damn keyboard
11:18 < blindcoder> fake: here?
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11:19 < blindcoder> gone
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11:30 < fake> not yet.
11:30 < fake> no, i don't think i\d enjoy that movie
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11:43 < tsa> moin SMP
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12:08 < tsa> <tsa_> np: Dieter Bohlen - Der kleine Dieter ..
12:08 < tsa> *G*
12:08 < tsa> irgendwie ziemlich uebel..
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12:09 < fake> hi tsa
12:10 < tsa> hi fake..
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13:03 < th> re
13:06 < SMP> asylum ;)
13:06 < th> asylum?
13:07 < th> klingt orientalisch
13:07 < SMP> Asyl
13:07 < SMP> you are too young to know "Soul Asylum", aren't you ;P
13:08 < th> i think so. anyways. i started hearing musik quite late
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13:19 < fake> Soul Asylum - Runaway Train ?
13:22 < SMP> can anyone remember any other song by them? ;)
13:22 < tsa> "i will still be <somethingiforgot>"
13:25 * SMP is quite impressed
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13:41 * fake can play Runaway Train on the guitar ;)
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13:53 < term_emu> hoi
13:54 < tsa> moin term_emu
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14:11 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
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14:42 (Users #rocklinux)
14:42 [ [anders]  ] [ esden   ] [ ichilton] [ rxr  ] [ snyke   ] [ zer0_o^] 
14:42 [ blindcoder] [ Ge0rG   ] [ praenti ] [ simon] [ term_emu] 
14:42 [ d3mian    ] [ holyolli] [ rolla   ] [ SMP  ] [ tsa     ] 
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14:51 < tsa> bbl
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14:59 < tsa> re.
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15:21 < fake> huh...
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15:21 < fake> no nickserv...
15:21 < fake> ah, there he is ;(
15:21 < fake> ;)
15:21 < Mike1> fake: :P
15:22 < fake> :P
15:22 < litost> Mike1! fake! morning!
15:23 < Mike1> litost: hey man! where have you been?
15:23 < litost> Mike1: ugh...busy with work and studying for a math test
15:23 < litost> and my old man is in town
15:23 < Mike1> litost: ah i see
15:24 < litost> Mike1:  how are you?
15:24 < Mike1> i am great thanks busy as well but good :)
15:29 < fake> Connection to www.sun.de closed.
15:29 < fake> ;)
15:29 < Mike1> *eg*
15:29 < fake> nice machine.
15:30 < Mike1> ?
15:30 < fake> e450 with 4xUSparc3 400
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15:30 < Mike1> cool
15:30 < fake> or is usparc2? oh well...
15:30 < fake> sparcv9 ;)
15:38 < [regex]> re
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15:59 < Mike1> hi SMP
15:59 < Mike1> great to have the World back :)
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16:06 < fake> SMP regained world domination...
16:27 < rolla> Mike
16:28 < blindcoder> hi rolla
16:31 < fake> hi blindcoder
16:35 < blindcoder> hi fake
16:35 < blindcoder> train today?
16:35 < d3mian> fake: hi. da u know a good reference about MIPS assembler ?
16:35 < d3mian> hi all
16:36 < blindcoder> hi d3mian
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16:43 < d3mian> hi hackbard !
16:43 < d3mian> Mike1
16:47 < hackbard> hi
16:51 < rolla> so who wants to help figure out why screen goes nuts on my rock box when I use a app with colours ?
16:51 < Mike1> rolla: i think huebi is already digging into that
16:51 < rolla> really ?
16:51 < Mike1> d3mian: yes?
16:51 < rolla> that would be great
16:52 < d3mian> Mike1: greeting
16:52 < Mike1> rolla: yeah but as i said i think he mentioned he would look at it dunno if he did it in the end
16:52 < rolla> hmmm
16:53 < rolla> it means I cannot irc from home :(
16:53 < rolla> thus I get a restricted connection on ircnet :(
16:53 < Mike1> rolla: ?
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16:54 < Mike1> i have connected to irc from ur home
16:54 < Mike1> is esden awake?
16:55 < Mike1> *PING* esden
17:15 < tsa> wech
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17:23 < rolla> yes
17:24 < rolla> but I want it ina screen so I can just disconnect from the screen
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18:31 < hackbard> Mike1: what did u wanna know about wlan?
18:31 < Mike1> hackbard: i am currently 1/2 busy atm can i ask later?
18:31 < Mike1> 1/2 a bit busy*
18:32 < hackbard> sure, i take a short smoker breaK ANYWAYS :) - SEE YA LATER
18:32 < hackbard> oups ;)
18:32 < Mike1> k
18:55 < fake> where is esden?
18:56 < fake> hum...
18:56 < Mike1> ...E...S...D...E...N...
18:59 < rolla> M....I...K...E...1
18:59 < Mike1> :)
19:01 * Mike1 is away: having lunch
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19:11 < th> re
19:27 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50802F1D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
19:55 < SMP> th: moving out of world? ;)
19:56 < th> SMP: not sure yet ;)
19:57 < Freak> re
19:57 * SMP still has a hosed news server
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19:59 < Freak> ok then don't say hello to me, I can handle that myself: hi, Freak -- hi!
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20:10 < jbalint> Anybody here?
20:11 < Freak> nah
20:13 < jbalint> Do you know if the possibility exists to use Build-Target to resume broken build?
20:15 < Freak> sorry I'm not a ROCKer actually
20:15 < jbalint> O . . . . K.
20:16 < Freak> (:
20:17 < jbalint> Why not?
20:18 < Freak> not interested.
20:19 < Freak> well actually I _am_ interested but I'm way too lazy.
20:20 < jbalint> bummer
20:20 < Freak> never heard. I suppose you could translate it like "doofie". but nevermind ;P
20:28 < jbalint> Goodbye nobody.
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20:36 < owl> hi
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20:50 * rolla smiles
20:51 < owl> hi rolla
20:51 < rolla> hallo
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21:08 < tsa> tag
21:08 < owl> moin
21:08 < tsa> hi owlita *hug*
21:08 < owl> omg. ned scho wieda
21:11 < tsa> hehe
21:12 < owl> lach ned ;P
21:26 < aszlig> oh! die owLITA!
21:28 < owl> aszlig: *lol* hi spinner ;P
21:29 -!- Mephis [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux
21:30 < Mephis> hi all
21:30 < owl> hi Mephis
21:31 < Mephis> owl!
21:37 < Freak> owl!
21:38 < owl> Mephis! Freak! ;P
21:38 < Mephis> Freak!
21:39 < Freak> Freak!
21:39 < Mephis> Freak: i heard u said some bad references to a frind who came here asking about ROCK ...
21:39 < Freak> Mephis!
21:39 < Mephis> hehe
21:39 < Freak> did not
21:40 < Mephis> that wasnt what i heard... the guy still remembers u. forget it :)
21:40 < Freak> whoever let you "hear" that is either a liar or an schemer.
21:41 < Freak> then he's a liar.
21:42 < Freak> because I have no intentions of disparaging ROCK
21:42 < Freak> never had.
21:42 < Freak> I'm a supporter though not a user
21:43 < Freak> ah wait there's a third possibility
21:43 < Freak> he missunderstood me.
21:43 < Mephis> no prob at my side. :) im just telling u a friend told me. :)
21:43 < Freak> whatever I said (I don't remember)
21:43 < Mephis> or u were drunk *g*
21:44 < Freak> the last time I drank something was monday night and I wasnt online back then. or I just don't remember. I remember driving home (since it was only one glass of vine) and going to bed tho.
21:46 < Freak> Mike1!
21:46 < Freak> whassup pal?!
21:47 < Freak> I just said: "saw you here yesterday.. when you had already left."
21:47 < Mike1> :
21:47 < Mike1> :P
21:47 * Mike1 is away: coding
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21:55 < rolla> Mike
21:58 < th> heyja Mike1
21:59 * Mike1 is back (gone 00:11:38)
21:59 < Mike1> master th
21:59 < Mephis> Mike1: fast coding ;-)
22:00 * Mike1 is back for just a few minutes to discuss business matters with th .. then go back to code
22:01 < Mephis> umm
22:01 < Mephis> cya
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22:27 < th> is there a way to query ppd-spec from a printer?
22:36 < tsa> hm..dunno.
22:45 -!- jbalint [~chatzilla@dhcp065-024-224-136.insight.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux
22:46 < jbalint> Good evening anybody.
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23:07 < tsa> hi jbalint
23:07 < tsa> hi jk
23:10 < jbalint> Hello.
23:11 < jk> hi all :)
23:17 < jbalint> Anyone here build ROCK?
23:19 < jk> not yet...looking into it :)
23:21 < jbalint> It is great.
23:21 < Mike1> jbalint: tell me about ur experience building it
23:22 < jk> it certainly looks interesting
23:25 < jbalint> Nothing else is like it.
23:27 < jbalint> I'd imagine redhat, . . . has something similar but it is their internal whatever.
23:27 < jbalint> ROCK is nice because source is available for build scripts. Redhat, you're screwed.
23:27 < jbalint> Unless you work there or something that is.
23:28 < jk> well, i'm not a redhat user, but redhat leverages srpms too...
23:28 < jbalint> But that's not a whole system.
23:28 < jk> true
23:28 < jbalint> With any distribution you can get the source for a package and re-compile it.
23:28 < jbalint> With ROCK you can create a customized system, which are the different build targets.
23:30 < jk> so...how does it compare to for example gentoo, sorcerer or the likes? :)
23:31 < jbalint> I have not used sorcerer.
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23:31 < jbalint> Gentoo, on the other hand is basically a minimal system that you must build up by compiling 'e-builds' which are basically source packages.
23:32 < jk> yup
23:32 < jbalint> One of the major differences is that ROCK tries to use as little amount of patches to source code as possible. If something should be added or change on a particular package, it should be submitted directly to package maintainer.
23:33 < jbalint> There is a thread or two about it in the mailing list archives if you can find it.
23:35 < jbalint> Also ROCK can support serial install out of the box. Gentoo, you have to setup iso-linux to boot to serial.
23:41 < jbalint> What distro do you use now?
23:41 < jk> Arch
23:42 < jbalint> Hrmm . . . never heard of it.
23:42 < th> neither did i
23:42 < th> ;>
23:42 < th> hi folks
23:43 < jbalint> Hello th.
23:44 < jbalint> I checked out the Arch web site. It seems interesting albeit in very early stages of development (0.4).
23:44 < jk> yup
23:44 < jk> and unfortunately, they lack developers :(
23:44 < jk> it is a great distro though
23:45 < jk> i'll keep it around, and put rock on the slackware partition :)
23:46 < tsa> cya all.
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23:46 < Mike1> cu all - leaving to uni
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23:48 < jbalint> What slackware do you use?
23:49 < jk> 8.1
23:49 < th> ouh. 7.1 was the last one for me. before i changed to rock
23:52 < jk> i change linux distro's on the fly...still have to find the one that suits me
23:52 < jk> heh
23:53 < jbalint> I used to use slackware up 7.1 was nice. when i tried 8, the install was a disaster
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