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--- Log opened Tue Nov 12 00:00:45 2002 --- Day changed Tue Nov 12 2002 00:02 < esden> cu guys 00:03 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD952260C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 00:06 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50803F0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:20 -!- ichilton_ [~ian@pc3-stoc3-4-cust114.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #rocklinux 00:20 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc3-stoc3-4-cust114.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 00:29 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-169-25.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:30 -!- c4y0 [~c4y0@cable200-75-73-72.epm.net.co] has joined #rocklinux 00:31 < c4y0> Hello!!!!!! 00:33 -!- ichilton_ is now known as ichilton 00:35 < esden> which binary is to get the names of the librarys a binary is linked against ? 00:35 < esden> hi c4y0 00:35 < tsa> esden: ldd 00:36 < tsa> hi c4y0 00:40 < c4y0> hi! 00:41 < c4y0> if i dont have a lot experience with linux, can i use rock linux? 00:41 < c4y0> i cant find documentacion!!!!!!!!!! 00:41 < c4y0> all is for expert users!! 00:41 < c4y0> :( 00:45 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-201-107.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00:49 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:00 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@dhcp024-210-222-139.woh.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux 01:01 < esden> c4y0: no ... use mandrake ... but if you want to learn a lot ... then rocklinux is for you 01:02 < esden> but be warned that you will probably undergo mental corruption if you lack linux experience ;-) 01:04 < esden> rocklinux documetnation is it's code ... and the stuff that is in the Documentation directory in the sources of rock 01:05 < esden> g'night 01:35 -!- c4y0 [~c4y0@cable200-75-73-72.epm.net.co] has quit ("BitchX: sanitized for your protection") 02:00 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9E0A4E7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 02:08 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9E11B11.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 02:45 -!- Netsplit over, joins: netrunner 03:05 -!- G-Spot [~G-Spot@108stb51.codetel.net.do] has joined #rocklinux 03:26 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("bettmodus") 03:44 -!- G-Spot [~G-Spot@108stb51.codetel.net.do] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03:51 -!- Mike1 [mike@rocklinux.de] has joined #rocklinux 03:51 < Mike1> moin 03:52 < Mike1> piong huebi 03:52 < Mike1> ping* 03:52 -!- Mike1 [mike@rocklinux.de] has quit (Client Quit) 04:27 < x1bncwn> anyone know how to fix this 04:28 < x1bncwn> Building tools in build/default-1.7-snapshot-ia32-pentium3-generic-expert: 04:28 < x1bncwn> -> Building tools.chroot/wrapper/cc-wrapper. 04:28 < x1bncwn> cc: installation problem, cannot exec `as': No such file or directory 04:28 < x1bncwn> alcatraz rock-src-1.7-200211011743 # type -p as 04:28 < x1bncwn> /usr/bin/as 04:35 -!- capone [~capone@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 04:36 -!- fooblah|away [~slackware@pD9EBB25B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04:39 < x1bncwn> noone has any idea? 04:52 < capone> of what ? 04:55 < x1bncwn> cc: installation problem, cannot exec `as': No such file or directory anyone know how to fix this error 04:56 < x1bncwn> -> Building tools.chroot/wrapper/cc-wrapper. 04:56 < x1bncwn> during that 04:56 < capone> umm 04:56 < capone> binutils 04:57 < x1bncwn> i just did Build-Pkg binutils 04:57 < capone> u dunt have binutils propertly installed or it is not reachable by the program ur compiling 04:57 < x1bncwn> and im installing from another distro that already has binutils 04:57 < capone> um 04:57 < capone> which distro ? 04:57 < x1bncwn> alcatraz rock-src-1.7-200211011743 # which as 04:57 < x1bncwn> /usr/bin/as 04:57 < x1bncwn> gentoo 04:57 < capone> strange for me 04:58 < capone> da u know about shell scripting ? u could take a look deeper in that script... and search where 'as' is located. i dunt use rock 1.7 yet. 04:59 < x1bncwn> i dont even see what as is called 04:59 < x1bncwn> where* 05:00 < capone> umm, this message is sent by cc.. i could help u more if i had sources, but i dunt. :(. try to ensure obvious things.. PATH, that 'as' really works... and that. 05:01 < x1bncwn> it does 05:01 < x1bncwn> and its in the PATH 06:47 -!- term_emu [~pm@p508190A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:04 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p508024E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:07 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p508025D9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:47 -!- Eisofen [grunz@p508173D0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("In meiner Zeitfrei bastel ich Häuschenvogel mit meine Schwanzfuchs") 08:47 -!- fooblah [~slackware@pD9EBBD2E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:47 < fooblah> hello 09:11 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E39667.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:16 < fooblah> just one problem between me and the iso :( 09:16 < fooblah> make[3]: *** [locale.lo] Error 1 09:16 < fooblah> make[3]: Leaving directory `/root/rock-src-1.7/src.gcc3.1037087378.19045.2136286620/gcc-3.2/objdir/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libstdc++-v3/src' 09:16 < fooblah> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 09:16 < fooblah> make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/rock-src-1.7/src.gcc3.1037087378.19045.2136286620/gcc-3.2/objdir/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libstdc++-v3' 09:16 < fooblah> make[1]: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 09:16 < fooblah> make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/rock-src-1.7/src.gcc3.1037087378.19045.2136286620/gcc-3.2/objdir/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libstdc++-v3' 09:16 < fooblah> make: *** [all-target-libstdc++-v3] Error 2 09:16 < fooblah> can anybody help? 09:42 < fake> mornin 09:43 < fake> which package? 09:43 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc3-stoc3-4-cust114.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit ("leaving") 09:45 < fooblah> gcc3 09:45 < fooblah> i try it again 09:46 -!- fooblah is now known as fooblah|away 09:46 < fake> urgh... 09:48 -!- [anders]_ is now known as [anders] 09:50 < fake> hi [anders] ! 09:54 < fooblah|away> same error :/ 09:54 < fooblah|away> i try it with gcc2 10:00 < fake> err.. 10:00 < fake> that won't work with glibc 2.3.1 10:08 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc3-stoc3-4-cust114.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #rocklinux 10:08 < blindcoder> /away 10:09 < blindcoder> moin 10:12 < fooblah|away> hmm... gcc2 works with glibc2.3 10:12 < fooblah|away> == 11/12/02 10:11:37 =[9]=> Finished building package gcc2. 10:12 < fooblah|away> but gcc3 won't work :( 10:12 < fooblah|away> i update it later.. hope it will work 10:15 < fake> huh ? 10:15 < fake> o_O ? 10:15 < fooblah|away> ? 10:15 < fooblah|away> hmm... 10:15 < fooblah|away> i need a bootable iso 10:15 < fake> gcc2 works... ? is you build-systems glibs 2.2.5 by chance? 10:15 < fooblah|away> WARNING: Disk1 is not bootable - no boot options defined. 10:15 < fooblah|away> whats the flag for bootable? 10:16 < fake> under fdisk? 10:16 < fooblah|away> i've got slackware gcc3 with glibc2.1 10:16 < fake> hm.. 10:16 < fooblah|away> but i used the cross compiler 10:16 < fooblah|away> cause glibc2.1 makes problems with the march=athlon-tbird 10:17 < fooblah|away> is there a flag for building a bootable iso? 10:17 < blindcoder> the bootdisk target 10:18 * blindcoder updated to glibc 2.3.1 and gcc3 on his host-system to campile Rock 10:18 < blindcoder> well... most rene/* packages still fail, but that's another story 10:19 < fooblah|away> hmm... i've choosen the bootdisk target (boot-, install-, rescue-system) 10:19 < fooblah|away> ah i've forgotten the Config .. ;) 10:20 < blindcoder> okay, I'm off again 11:11 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-170-103.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:11 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-169-25.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:20 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD958F488.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11:27 < esden> morning guys 11:30 < fake> mornin esden 11:30 < esden> ahh ... morgen fake 11:35 * -> esden got rid of the nasty error message of the linux24 packet 11:36 -!- fooblah|away [~slackware@pD9EBBD2E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11:36 < esden> it was my own stupidity 11:44 < esden> hmm ... now is gzip failing 11:46 < [anders]> re fake 11:47 * [anders] is not very active on irc presently.. a little too much to do work-wise and privately. not enough time really.. 11:49 < esden> [anders]: that is sad 11:49 < esden> [anders]: and hello so by the way ;-) 11:49 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD9E4FBCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:54 < esden> hi blindcoder 11:54 < esden> and cu 11:57 < [anders]> esden: hullo there.. :) hope you are having a little more time available than I do. 11:57 * [anders] is looking back at when I was in school and wish I had that much time spare as I used to have then.. 12:12 < fake> [anders]: esden is a a student. he has more time than he needs ;) 12:23 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has joined #rocklinux 12:50 < x1bncwn> bleh...wtf 12:50 < th> SMP: PING? 12:50 < [anders]> fake: heh... :) 12:50 < x1bncwn> i cant get 1.7 to install 12:50 < x1bncwn> error after error 12:51 < x1bncwn> first it couldnt find time 12:51 < x1bncwn> then it couldnt find as 12:51 < x1bncwn> now it can even find freakin bin/sh 12:51 < x1bncwn> wtf is wrong with it 12:51 < x1bncwn> this is all after waiting like 3 hrs on each time 12:52 < x1bncwn> it builds most of the stuff..then for no apparent reason..just errors 12:52 < x1bncwn> alcatraz rock-src-1.7-200211011743 # ./scripts/Build-Target 12:52 < x1bncwn> chroot: bin/sh: No such file or directory 12:53 < x1bncwn> im guessing its broken 12:54 < x1bncwn> oh well..guess i wont be checking rock out then..heh 12:54 -!- huebi [huebi@rocklinux.de] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:54 -!- SMP [stefanp@world.cabal1.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12:54 -!- SMP [stefanp@world.cabal1.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:57 -!- huebi [huebi@rocklinux.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:59 < x1bncwn> is there any docs on doing an install from a ramdisk or from within another distro 12:59 < x1bncwn> maybe i gotta chroot something 13:01 < x1bncwn> theres only one line in Build-Target with the line chroot in it..so it has to be there 13:01 < x1bncwn> # This script is the ROCK work-horse. It builds in a chroot environment 13:01 < x1bncwn> [ $stagelevel -gt 1 ] && cmd_root="$cmd_root -chroot" 13:02 < x1bncwn> or do you all of you doing an install from a cd or something 13:04 < x1bncwn> any of you know? 13:04 < x1bncwn> where would i chroot to? 13:07 < SMP> you are mixing things up 13:07 < x1bncwn> it wont find sh or as or anything 13:07 < x1bncwn> i need to chroot somewhere 13:07 < SMP> do you say "install" and mean "build"? 13:07 < x1bncwn> where? 13:08 < x1bncwn> yea..build 13:08 < x1bncwn> chroot build/default-1.7-snapshot-ia32-pentium3-generic-expert/root /bin/bash 13:08 < x1bncwn> chroot: /bin/bash: No such file or directory 13:09 < SMP> is that a command you typed? 13:09 < x1bncwn> yea 13:09 < x1bncwn> alcatraz rock-src-1.7-200211011743 # ./scripts/Build-Target 13:09 < x1bncwn> chroot: bin/sh: No such file or directory 13:09 < x1bncwn> see? 13:09 < SMP> ahh 13:10 < x1bncwn> does the same thing with as 13:10 < SMP> I don't know the 1.7 tree very well 13:10 < x1bncwn> well it obviously needs to chroot to somewhere 13:10 < x1bncwn> where would that be in say 1.5? 13:11 < x1bncwn> i mean if its looking for the /bin/sh it built 13:11 < x1bncwn> i have to be chrooted to that /root dir in order to use it dont i 13:11 < x1bncwn> ? 13:12 < SMP> no, you don't chroot anywhere 13:12 < x1bncwn> then the build script is broken 13:12 < x1bncwn> this is like the 4th attempt 13:12 < x1bncwn> each time a new error 13:13 < x1bncwn> it cant find bin/sh 13:13 < x1bncwn> not the lack of a preceeding / 13:13 < x1bncwn> which means it has to be chrooted to that root dir 13:13 < x1bncwn> or bin/sh doesnt exist 13:14 < x1bncwn> /bin/sh does 13:14 < th> SMP: was war'n grad los? war ein link von euch down? 13:14 < x1bncwn> but not bin/sh 13:14 < SMP> th: ja, die Leitung nach WR 13:15 < x1bncwn> this is exactely what i did 13:15 < x1bncwn> i dled the src..extracted it to my /home dir 13:15 < x1bncwn> ran ./scripts/Config 13:16 < th> SMP: es gab uebrigens seltsamerweise garkeine lieferung 13:16 < x1bncwn> selected the packages i wanted 13:16 < x1bncwn> then i ran ./scripts/Download -required 13:16 < x1bncwn> then i ran ./scripts/Build-Target 13:16 < x1bncwn> each time 13:16 < x1bncwn> a diff error..at a diff stage in building 13:18 < x1bncwn> ok..let me try a diff aproach..does anyone in this channel..actually use ROCK 1.7 13:18 < x1bncwn> or has anyone installed it previously 13:19 * th is still on 1.5. using it productiv. 13:19 < x1bncwn> any ideas why it cant find bin/sh or it cant exec `as' 13:20 < x1bncwn> its not chrooting where its suppose to right? 13:20 < th> wrong architecture? 13:20 < x1bncwn> its configed right 13:20 < x1bncwn> its not being chrooted 13:20 < x1bncwn> the script chroots itself or something 13:20 < x1bncwn> its not working 13:20 < x1bncwn> see if im in / 13:20 < x1bncwn> bin/sh works 13:20 < x1bncwn> but if im anywhere else 13:21 < x1bncwn> bin/sh doesnt exist 13:21 < x1bncwn> thats th problem 13:21 < x1bncwn> it needs to chroot to the `root' dir inside the build dir 13:22 < x1bncwn> but it wont work 13:23 < x1bncwn> chroot build/default-1.7-snapshot-ia32-pentium3-generic-expert bin/bash 13:23 < x1bncwn> chroot: bin/bash: No such file or directory 13:23 < x1bncwn> or with the / either 13:23 < x1bncwn> chroot: /bin/bash: No such file or directory 13:23 < SMP> that's probably just the effect of (a) previous error(s) in the build 13:23 < x1bncwn> there was no previous errors 13:23 < x1bncwn> it was looping 13:24 < x1bncwn> chroot: bin/sh: no such file or directory 13:24 < x1bncwn> over and over 13:24 < th> looping sounds like an error to me 13:24 < x1bncwn> a error in the script it was it sounds like to me 13:24 < x1bncwn> it hasnt errores twice in the same spot yet 13:24 < x1bncwn> in 4 attempts 13:25 < x1bncwn> inconsistency == something wrong with the script 13:25 -!- SMP changed the topic of #rocklinux to: CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co rock-1.5 13:28 < x1bncwn> bah..i will not be defeated by a mere syntax error! 13:32 < x1bncwn> cmd_root="-root ${build_root}" 13:33 < x1bncwn> [ $stagelevel -gt 1 ] && cmd_root="$cmd_root -chroot" 13:33 < x1bncwn> thats the only instance of 'chroot' in Build-Target 13:37 < x1bncwn> well its calling pkgloop_action before its been (){} defined.. not sure if that matters..i thought it executed commands as they were read rather then parsing the entire script first 13:49 < blindcoder> x1bncwn: double-check if bash built in stage 1 13:49 < blindcoder> that error occured here, too, and it was bash that didn't build 14:19 < fake> if bash didn't build the chroot will fail for sure 14:25 -!- fooblah [~slackware@pD9546779.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:25 < fooblah> have a problem :( 14:25 < fooblah> loop: can't open device /dev/loop/*: No such file or directory 14:25 < fooblah> !> No free loopback device found! 14:26 < fake> yeah 14:26 < [anders]> fooblah: 14:26 < fake> i know that 14:26 < [anders]> err.. 14:26 < fooblah> hmm... 14:26 < fake> you need to have devfs on the system you build on to create the iso 14:27 < [anders]> if you have used a loop device, and unmounted it again. 14:27 < fooblah> i have devfs 14:27 < [anders]> it might still be in use.. 14:27 < fake> you should do a mount -t devfs none /dev 14:27 < fake> BUT 14:27 < [anders]> and since you by default only habe 8 of them. 14:27 < fake> you will have to re-boot your system after you created the iso 14:27 < [anders]> you might have to do losetup -d /dev/loop/? to free them up 14:27 < fake> fooblah: is devfs mounted on /dev ? 14:28 < fooblah> *confused* 14:28 < fooblah> *gg* 14:28 < fooblah> aehm 14:28 < fake> simply type "mount" 14:28 < fake> and see wether /dev is a mounted devfs 14:28 < fooblah> none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) 14:28 < fooblah> none on /proc type proc (rw) 14:28 < fake> if not, listen to me, otherwise listen to [anders] 14:28 < fake> so no, you build system is not using devfs. 14:28 < fooblah> there are missing hda1, hda3 and hda6 14:29 < fooblah> hmm... 14:29 < fake> it supports it, but it does not use it 14:29 < fake> if you now mount it on dev 14:29 < fake> you will bnno longer be able to log in, once you logged out 14:29 < fake> (except with ssh... etc) 14:29 < fake> until reboot 14:29 < fake> but i did that two times, to be able to burn the isos 14:30 < fake> so just do 14:30 < fake> mount -t devfs none /dev 14:30 < fake> then scripts/Create-ISO... 14:30 < fake> then reboot ;) 14:30 < fooblah> ok - there are some packages i have to build... then i try it 14:30 < fake> okay 14:32 < blindcoder> 77 Packages failed 14:32 < fooblah> hmm... i can't play musik? 14:32 < blindcoder> most af them rene/* 14:32 < fooblah> since i make the mount ... 14:33 < blindcoder> cd /dev && ln -s sound/* . 14:34 < blindcoder> that should do the trick 14:34 < fooblah> yeah ;) 14:35 < fooblah> so what will happen if i reboot now? 14:35 < fake> nothing... 14:35 < fake> try it. if you created the iso, log ot 14:35 < fake> (Ctrl+D) 14:35 < fake> and try to login again ;) 14:35 < fake> after a reboot devfs will remain unmounted again, and your console devices will be in order. 14:36 < blindcoder> fake: 1753 today? 14:36 < fake> (among others) 14:36 < fake> 7331 ;) 14:36 < fake> blindcoder: yes, i assume so. 14:36 < blindcoder> the only script that needs devfs is Create-ISO 14:37 < blindcoder> and one of these days I'll patch it so it works with and without it 14:37 < fake> ... unfortunately. but i will no longer complain about it - it only annoyed me _once_ ;)) 14:39 < fooblah> bash-2.05a# ./scripts/Download -cfg bootdisk termcap 14:39 < fooblah> ERROR: Unknown file: termcap. 14:39 < fooblah> hmm...? 14:40 < blindcoder> ./scripts/Download -cfg bootdisk -required 14:40 < fake> termcap is no moreew 14:40 < fake> more 14:40 < fooblah> ok 14:40 < fake> we now use ncurses's termcap emulation 14:41 < fooblah> last package - gcc - i hope it will work 14:41 < fake> .. which brings new problems ;) 14:43 < blindcoder> root@se-sendling:/pvol14# ls -lh 14:43 < blindcoder> ls: illegal option -- h 14:43 < blindcoder> have I _ever_ menhioned how much I hate Solaris ? 14:45 < fake> hehe 14:45 < fake> do a ls --help 14:45 < fake> illegal option -- - 14:45 < fake> illegal option -- h 14:45 < fake> illegal option -- e 14:45 < fake> illegal option -- l 14:45 < fake> illegal option -- p 14:46 < blindcoder> yes, that, too.... 14:46 < fake> hehe ;) 14:46 < fake> ls -abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz replaces --help... 14:46 < fake> count the ones left out 14:47 < blindcoder> &lol8 but what about uppercaseletters? 14:47 < blindcoder> sundance:~$ ls --help 14:47 < blindcoder> ls: illegal option -- - 14:47 < blindcoder> ls: illegal option -- h 14:47 < blindcoder> ls: illegal option -- e 14:47 < blindcoder> usage: ls -1RaAdCxmnlogrtucpFbqisfL [files] 14:47 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pc19.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:47 < blindcoder> hi bluefire 14:49 * blindcoder now X-forwarding netscape, Mozilla, StarOffice and 2 gkrellms 14:50 < bluefire> hi blindcoder 14:57 < fake> alias ls='ls -1RaAdCxmnlogrtucpFbqisfL' 15:01 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 15:01 < Mike1> moin\ 15:03 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9523993.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:03 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9523993.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 15:03 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9523993.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:03 < Mike1> hackbard: moin 15:05 < hackbard> Mike1: moin du :) 15:13 < Mike1> <<< ping huebi >>> 15:13 < fooblah> Mike1: hi 15:13 -!- fooblah is now known as fooblah|away 15:13 < Mike1> hi fooblah how are you today? 15:13 < Mike1> mmm... 15:17 < rolla> Mike1 15:17 < Mike1> hi rolla 15:17 < rolla> cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/doc/binutils/asconfig.texi': No such file 15:18 < Mike1> uhh 0_o 15:18 < Mike1> ? 15:19 < rolla> stage 2 binutils died :( 15:19 < Mike1> 1.7? 15:19 < rolla> yup 15:21 < Mike1> i think its currently a normal issue on 1.7 15:21 < rolla> great 15:24 < blindcoder> rolla deactivate automatic docu creatiion 15:24 < blindcoder> and it works fine 15:25 < blindcoder> argh.. typing still hard... need some... help... 15:25 < rolla> ? 15:25 < rolla> and how do I do that ? 15:26 < blindcoder> ./scripts/Config 15:26 < blindcoder> somewhere near the bottom 15:27 < rolla> yeah I found it thanks 15:28 < Mike1> hi blindy 15:28 < blindcoder> hmmm.. somehow... almost half of rene's packages are broken, or am I misteken? 15:28 < Mike1> blindcoder: i am fixing then now so do spect a patch flood later today 15:29 < blindcoder> sweet 15:29 < blindcoder> I have only ~75 failing packages and about 40 of them are rene/* 15:30 < Mike1> blindcoder: if there are just 40 i think i can fix then easily 15:31 < Mike1> or at least some of them :PP 15:31 < blindcoder> good , looking forward to it :) 15:31 < Mike1> blindcoder: lets see how it works 15:31 < Mike1> blindcoder: first i need to update his packages many of them are really out of date 15:32 < Mike1> then we will get them to build 15:32 < blindcoder> well... personally I thnk he's maintaining a few packages too much 15:32 < capone> hi 15:33 < blindcoder> hi capone 15:33 < fooblah|away> WARNING: Disk1 is not bootable - no boot options defined. 15:33 < fooblah|away> hmm... 15:33 -!- fooblah|away is now known as fooblah 15:33 < fooblah> why?! :/ 15:34 < fooblah> bash-2.05a# ./scripts/Create-ISO bootdisk 15:34 < Mike1> blindcoder: i guess he is just busy with something else, dunno what but he is definitly busy 15:34 < fooblah> is there a mistake? 15:34 < blindcoder> fooblah: did you use the bootdisk target and have you told Create-ISO to use it? 15:34 < fooblah> blindcoder: yes 15:34 < Mike1> *gg* 15:35 < blindcoder> Wiit's a woman. They usually demand a _huge_ amount of time 15:35 < Mike1> fsck he is maintaining 170 packages 15:35 < blindcoder> fooblah: hmm... Strange 15:36 < blindcoder> Mike1: yes... 15:36 < Mike1> this will take me at least 3-4 days to just update all the broken links and update versions 15:37 < blindcoder> :( 15:37 < Mike1> blindcoder: i am just trying to be realistic 15:37 < Mike1> blindcoder: still i will see how much progress i can have today 15:37 < blindcoder> yes, I know... that's why I'm sad... 15:38 < blindcoder> I want to geget rid of debian on my router which will become my sparc32 Testmachine 15:39 < fooblah> hmm... ./scripts/Build-Target -cfg bootdisk - output: 15:39 < fooblah> Creating disk images: 15:39 < fooblah> mktemp: invalid option -- p 15:39 < fooblah> Usage: mktemp [-q] [-u] template 15:39 < fooblah> loop: can't open device /dev/loop/*: No such file or directory 15:39 < fooblah> !> No free loopback device found! 15:39 < blindcoder> hmm mktemppp I've seen that error before... 15:40 < Mike1> fooblah: does /dev/loop/* exist? 15:40 < fooblah> no 15:40 < Mike1> blindcoder: of course you need to have loopback support on ur kernel 15:40 < capone> mktemp: invalid option -- p -> that's a prob first 15:40 < Mike1> else it wont work 15:40 < fooblah> hmm... *confused* whats /dev/loop? 15:41 < Mike1> fooblah: you need to re-compile ur kernel 15:41 < capone> mktemp [-q] [-u] template 15:41 < fooblah> ok 15:41 < capone> in slack this is a problem too 15:41 < Mike1> fooblah: su , cd /usr/src/linux ; make menuconfig 15:41 < fooblah> i know how to build a kernel ;) 15:41 < blindcoder> edit scripts/Create-ISO and replace the two occurances of `mktemp` with "/tmp/tmp1" and "/tmp/tmp2" 15:41 < Mike1> fooblah: ok in block devices 15:41 < fake> fooblah: ./scripts/Create-ISO bootdisk otherconfig 15:42 < Mike1> enable the "loopback device support" 15:42 < Mike1> that will do the trick for you :) 15:42 < fooblah> it is enabled 15:42 < fake> fooblah: mounted devfs? 15:42 < fooblah> yes 15:42 < Mike1> fooblah: what linux distro do you use? 15:43 < fooblah> aeh mom 15:43 < fooblah> none on /dev type devfs (rw) 15:43 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD90485C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:43 < capone> hi capchaos :) 15:43 < fooblah> is this ok? 15:43 < Mike1> fooblah: /dev/loop exist? 15:43 < capchaos> hi capone 15:43 < Mike1> but not /dev/loop/* right? 15:43 < fooblah> no - but it is in the kernel 15:43 < fooblah> there is no dev/loop :( 15:44 < fooblah> ah sry it is 15:44 < Mike1> fooblah: re-compile ur kernel 15:44 < fooblah> there is: /dev/loop0 - /dev/loop15 15:44 < Mike1> and make sure the loopback device support is static not a module 15:44 < capone> the prob with this guy is mktemp version 15:44 < fooblah> it is static 15:44 < Mike1> fooblah: what distro are you using? 15:44 < fooblah> slackware 8.1 15:44 < capone> see !!! 15:44 < capone> how i said above !! 15:44 < fooblah> hmm... :( 15:45 < Mike1> ah 15:45 < Mike1> that the shit 15:45 < Mike1> cd /etc/ 15:45 < fooblah> :((( 15:45 < fooblah> k 15:45 < capone> one need to use a different option to build in slack 15:45 < Mike1> vi devfsd.conf 15:45 < capone> to use mktemp 15:45 < fooblah> ok 15:45 < Mike1> LOOKUP loop/* MODLOAD 15:45 < Mike1> :) 15:45 < blindcoder> fooblah: regarding the mktemp problem: edit scripts/Create-ISO and replace the two occurances of `mktemp` with "/tmp/tmp1" and "/tmp/tmp2" 15:45 < capone> fooblah: try to compile a new mktemp binary 15:46 < capone> use the same version that rock has actually 15:47 < fooblah> ok scripts/Create-ISO is changed 15:48 < capone> nice 15:48 < fooblah> no loop/LOOP in /etc/devfsd.conf 15:48 < blindcoder> that should at least fix the mktemp problem 15:48 -!- hackbard is now known as ACKbard 15:48 < fooblah> yeah!! 15:48 < fooblah> it workz!! :D 15:48 < capone> :) 15:48 < fooblah> oh no 15:48 < Mike1> fooblah: add that line to ur devfsd.conf 15:48 < fooblah> it doesn't *gg* 15:49 < fooblah> the same problem with mktemp :( 15:49 < capone> Mike1: he already has loops in /dev/loop 15:49 < blindcoder> fooblah: ?? 15:49 < Mike1> capano oldstyle loop 15:49 < Mike1> capone: * 15:49 -!- ACKbard is now known as defbla 15:49 < blindcoder> you sure you have replaced both `mktemp` ? 15:49 < Mike1> kike loopX 15:49 < capone> ic 15:49 < Mike1> not as in loop/ 15:50 < Mike1> that line will do the tric for him so in staed of loopX he will have loop/X 15:50 < fooblah> ok 15:50 < fooblah> i changed it 15:50 < Mike1> which is what he needs 15:50 < fooblah> blindcoder: yes i'm sure 15:50 < Mike1> fooblah: you will have to restart devfsd 15:50 < blindcoder> fooblah: be sure to not use the same filename twice... that will screw up 15:51 < Mike1> if it doesnt work you will have to do a painfull reboot 15:51 < blindcoder> hmm.... strange 15:51 < fooblah> how can i restart the devfsd? 15:51 < fooblah> umount? 15:51 < blindcoder> killall -HUP devfsd 15:51 < fooblah> killal? 15:51 < fooblah> ah ok 15:51 < fooblah> bash-2.05a# killall -HUP devfsd 15:51 < fooblah> devfsd: no process killed 15:51 < fooblah> :( 15:51 < fooblah> i restart 15:52 -!- fooblah [~slackware@pD9546779.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("BitchX-1.0c19 -- just do it.") 15:52 < blindcoder> then it simply is not running 15:52 < blindcoder> hmm... 2l8 15:52 < Mike1> blindcoder: perhaps he didnt compile his kernel with devfs support on his kernel 15:52 < capone> :pp 15:53 < Mike1> still slackware is such crap 15:53 < blindcoder> hmm it should be enough to create a few symlinks then 15:53 < blindcoder> cd /dev 15:53 < Mike1> blindcoder: ack 15:53 < blindcoder> mkdir loop 15:53 < blindcoder> cd loop 15:53 < blindcoder> for x in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ; do ln -s ../loop$x $x ; done 15:53 < Mike1> blindcoder: yes but still that would not be the best solution 15:54 < Mike1> at least not a clean solution 15:54 < blindcoder> doesn't matter. he won't have that installation for a long time anyways 15:54 < Mike1> *gggg* 15:54 < blindcoder> anymore 15:55 < blindcoder> he should make it clean mhen ROCK is installed. Everything else is irrelevant. We are the Borg. 15:56 < Mike1> true who cares about a lame slackware system 15:56 < capone> for x in `seq 1 1 9`; do ln -s ../loop$x $x ; done 15:56 < capone> :) 15:56 < blindcoder> seq? I don't know that... seems to be worth a look 15:57 < capone> trake it, it's very useful 15:57 < capone> trake/take 15:57 < blindcoder> oh... sweet! 15:58 < blindcoder> finally a clean wayinstead of 1 2 3 ... <infinite> 15:58 < capone> Mike1: why not take care about other Build environments? 15:58 < capone> like slackware 15:58 < blindcoder> capone: his build is finished. he just needs ho create the iso... 15:59 < blindcoder> hmm... maybe I'll patch Create-ISO today to finally work with non-devfs systems 15:59 < blindcoder> IIRC it's the only script that really needs it 16:00 < Mike1> because ""distributions"" like slackware are always really out of date, give several problems for having considerable differences with rock, and simply its not worth it 16:00 < Mike1> blindcoder: still there is nothing like a ROCK system to build ROCK linux 16:01 < capone> blindcoder: rescue, install-disks and those bootable targets also need it 16:01 < capone> iirc 16:01 < blindcoder> hmm... right... I think I've seen it there... but it shouldn't be too much work.... 16:01 < blindcoder> Mike1: correct :) 16:02 < blindcoder> capone: a simple `if [ -e /dpv/loop/0 ] ; then ` should suffice 16:03 < capone> i think so 16:03 < capone> :) 16:03 < blindcoder> But I can't make it from here... I'm already busy enough keeping ssh via https-proxy running >_< 16:03 -!- capone is now known as d3mian 16:04 < blindcoder> hmm and I think I'll get myself another cup of coffee 16:04 < d3mian> i leave right now 16:04 < d3mian> cya 16:04 -!- d3mian [~capone@208.165.55.133] has left #rocklinux () 16:05 < blindcoder> I _really_ have to find another solution t connect to my morkstation @home 16:07 < blindcoder> WS@work --> another solaris-WS --> proxy via transconnect --> pseudo-shell-server@buergernetz --> my router@home --> my WS@home 16:08 < blindcoder> and there I wonder about my backspace-key showing strange behaviour... 16:09 < blindcoder> brb 16:12 < blindcoder> re 16:14 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B504c.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:14 < owl> moin 16:14 < capchaos> hello owl 16:14 < Mike1> hi sed 16:14 < owl> hi capchaos, Mike1 16:15 < blindcoder> hi owly! 16:15 < owl> eh, owl != application 16:15 < owl> moin blindy 16:15 < blindcoder> sed? 16:15 < Mike1> owl: who said i was refering to the sed package :) 16:15 < owl> Mike1: don't say it! 16:15 < Mike1> owl: no i wont tell no worries 16:15 < owl> thx 16:15 < blindcoder> what's owl got to do with sed? 16:16 < Mike1> blindcoder: nothing just a joke between owlita and i 16:16 < owl> blindcoder: how is it at work? i have spare time since 12:45 h ;PPPP 16:16 < blindcoder> owl :P 16:17 < blindcoder> that means I can't bug you at the train today? 16:17 < owl> blindcoder: *g* of course not... it's tuesday... you remeber... school-time... ;P 16:17 < blindcoder> oh, I forgot >_< 16:17 < blindcoder> then I'll do so on Thursday :) 16:18 < owl> blindcoder: why thursday? aren't you on train tomorrow0ß 16:18 < owl> =? 16:20 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD90485C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("brb") 16:21 < blindcoder> no, I'm going by car tomorrowm 16:21 < owl> blindcoder: uhm. why so? a bit lazy? ;P 16:21 < blindcoder> meeting that will most likely take until 2330 again 16:22 < owl> omg! have fun then... 16:22 < blindcoder> I will! Boss pays for all the food and drinks :( 16:22 < blindcoder> :) 16:23 < owl> blindcoder: *g* 16:23 -!- capone [~capone@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 16:23 < capone> re 16:23 < capone> Mike1 16:23 < blindcoder> In essence, my whole camapany (7 people) meet and talk and have fun :) 16:23 < owl> re capone 16:23 < capone> im talking with daniel 16:23 < blindcoder> re cappy 16:23 < owl> bussiness meeting or more or less "private" meeting? 16:24 < capone> Mike1: he said me u never called him to agree about the router.. finally he bought a cisco one and the guy of my uni configured it 16:24 < capone> hi owl 16:25 < blindcoder> owl: a private businezss weeting :) 16:25 < blindcoder> no one has to attend but anyone who does usually has fun and lunch for free :) 16:26 < owl> blindcoder: *lol* 16:26 < blindcoder> so far I've only missed one meeting due to illness 16:27 < owl> uh. in three years you missed _one_ meeting??? 16:29 < blindcoder> in 5 months 16:29 < fake> *lol* 16:29 < blindcoder> I'm with this company since July 16:30 < blindcoder> fake: ?? 16:30 < owl> ah so. 16:31 < owl> moin fake, btw. 16:32 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pc19.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit ("leaving") 16:35 < capone> https://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2002/11/07/linux_threads.html 16:36 < esden> re hi all 16:36 < owl> moin esden 16:36 < esden> hi owl 16:39 -!- c4y0 [~c4y0@cable200-75-73-72.epm.net.co] has joined #rocklinux 16:40 < blindcoder> hi esden 16:40 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD90485C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:40 * capchaos likes ion 16:42 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:43 < capone> hi esden 16:44 < esden> hi blindcoder 16:44 < esden> hi capone 16:45 < capone> cya 16:45 -!- capone [~capone@208.165.55.133] has left #rocklinux () 16:46 < blindcoder> 559 builds total, 485 completed fine, 74 with errors. 16:50 < esden> hmm ... i think it is comparable with my results 16:51 < blindcoder> well most of it is renes stuff ( I keep repeating myself) 16:55 < esden> blindcoder: that is the same observation that I had 16:55 -!- c4y0 [~c4y0@cable200-75-73-72.epm.net.co] has quit ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") 16:57 < blindcoder> esden: okay, then I'm relieved and start a pentium4 build now and after that a k6-2 build and will reinstall my box on the weekend hopefully 16:58 * blindcoder now going home 17:09 -!- litost [~user@phynp6.phy-astr.gsu.edu] has joined #rocklinux 17:10 < litost> hi everyone 17:10 < owl> hi litost 17:10 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 17:10 < litost> how are you today owl? 17:11 < owl> litost: great. thx. and you? 17:11 < litost> awake and suprisingly productive :) 17:12 < owl> hehe :) why so? what are you doing? 17:12 < litost> i got 8 hours of sleep for one thing 8) 17:13 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:13 < litost> i'm working on j2ee stuff for werk 17:13 < owl> litost: haha ;P who needs so much sleep? don't you prefer the black rings under your eyes? ;P 17:13 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-176-172.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:13 < holyolli> moin 17:13 < owl> litost: congratulations... you re working ;P 17:13 < owl> hi holyolli 17:13 < holyolli> hi owl 17:14 < Mike1> litost: hello my working friend 17:14 < owl> my eyes! i'm dying! 17:15 < owl> what horrible website is that?!!! the design is killing me! https://www.worldwidepunk.com/interviews/SOIA/ 17:15 < litost> owl: though black rings look sexy on a geek, i have a date tonight with a non-geek and i'm trying to impress ;) 17:15 < owl> litost: *ggg* have fun then ;P+# 17:15 < litost> Miguel! 17:15 < litost> thanks owl =) 17:16 < owl> you are welcome ;P 17:16 < fake> litost: what does a non-geek look like? i can't remember... ? 17:16 < fake> ;) 17:17 < esden> re fake 17:17 < litost> hehe...go outside :) 17:17 < esden> litost: you mean the big blue room ? 17:17 < litost> esden: yep, the concrete jungle 17:18 < fake> the one with the lightning fast rendering.. 17:18 < litost> and antialiasing 17:19 < esden> and an amazing resolution ! 17:19 < fake> and force feedback 17:19 < esden> how much was it once more ? 17:19 < fake> and emotion engine(tm) 17:19 < litost> and 10^7 refresh rates 17:19 < esden> yes 17:20 < Mike1> owl: wanna see a _REALLY_ ugly webdesign? 17:20 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@mnch-d9ba44ad.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:20 < Mike1> https://www.thecrichtongroup.biz/ 17:21 < Mike1> check it out owly 17:21 < Mike1> thats what i call SUCK 17:23 < owl> wtf is _that_??? 17:23 < Mike1> :) 17:23 < owl> but more horrible imho: https://www.neuburg.net 17:23 < Mike1> https://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/ 17:23 < Mike1> :) 17:23 < owl> let's start the contest of having a look to the most horrible website of the www ;P 17:24 < fake> www.hamsterdance.de ? 17:25 -!- chrisime_ [~chrisime@mnch-d9ba4457.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:27 < litost> owl: did you see that bit about Craig from SOIA being in a porn? :) 17:27 < owl> litost: nope. 17:28 < litost> at any rate it's at the end of that interview on that link you posted 17:28 * litost is a SOIA fan 17:28 < owl> :) do you own the song "closed"? 17:29 < owl> (as mp3 or so...?) 17:29 < litost> hmmm...don't think so 17:30 < litost> unfortunately, some bastard broke into my car and stole a bunch of my CD's...SOIA being one of them 17:30 -!- chrisime1 [~chrisime@mnch-d9ba4470.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:30 * fake -> train 17:30 < fake> l8ters 17:30 < owl> :-// 17:30 < owl> bye fake. viel spass in der schule morgen 17:31 < owl> litost: if you want you can download some songs from me ... tomorrow or so... (if i converted the "dive in a dive" songs to mp3...) 17:33 < litost> owl: that would be great, thanks!! i'll be here more often the next few days. 17:34 < owl> litost: you re welcome ;) ok. i will send you the link, then. 17:35 < litost> owl: i'll make some mp3's if you're interested of a local band that has it's roots in SOIA 17:35 < owl> yes. why not ;) thx a lot 17:36 -!- chrisime2 [~chrisime@mnch-d9ba42dc.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:37 < litost> I think you'll like them. i'll send a link tomorrow 17:37 < owl> ok. thank you. what style of music is it? hardcore? punk? 17:37 < litost> it's definately old school hardcore 17:39 < litost> short songs, fast guitars and drums, with a catchy melody and all kinds of singalong fun :) 17:39 -!- chrisime2 [~chrisime@mnch-d9ba42dc.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:41 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@mnch-d9ba44ad.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:43 < owl> :)) 17:43 < owl> do you know system of a down, too? 17:44 < Mike1> owlycity? 17:44 < owl> toxcity ;P 17:44 -!- chrisime1 [~chrisime@mnch-d9ba4470.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17:45 < litost> ummm...heard of them, but i haven't really listened to them much 17:45 < owl> tstststs... ;) that's bad... 17:46 < litost> i used to do a radio show at school and i remember playing them once ;) 17:46 < litost> it's metal, right? 17:46 -!- chrisime_ [~chrisime@mnch-d9ba4457.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit (Connection timed out) 17:47 < owl> yes it's metal 17:47 < owl> nu-metal or so... 17:51 -!- kasc [~shaman@p50909F49.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17:53 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B504c.pppool.de] has quit ("brb") 17:54 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B504c.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:55 < owl> re 17:56 < capchaos> re owl 18:00 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p508132FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:01 < owl> hi tcr 18:01 < tcr> moin all 18:05 -!- kasc [~shaman@p5090ACFA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:18 < huebi> Moin 18:18 < owl> moin huebi 18:18 < huebi> moin owl 18:18 < owl> wie geht's dir? 18:18 < esden> hi huebi 18:18 < huebi> muede 18:18 < huebi> hi esden 18:19 < owl> ist die krups schon weg? 18:19 * -> esden ist gerade aufgewacht als er auf der tastatur eingepennt ist 18:19 < huebi> owl: Leider noch nicht. Ich bin noch an den Installationsdisketten. 18:19 < owl> guten morgen esden... ;) 18:19 < owl> huebi: oki. macht nix. wann wird sie in etwa "rausgehen"? 18:20 < esden> morgen morgen >_< 18:20 * owl needs a tuete deutsch 18:22 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-176-172.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:22 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-180-86.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:26 < rolla> crap gcc3 just died :( 18:26 < esden> ahh coffee 18:28 < holyolli> .oO(good idea...) 18:28 < holyolli> hi esden, btw. 18:28 < holyolli> ;) 18:29 * tcr brb 18:31 < esden> hi holyolli 18:33 -!- holyolli_ [~holyolli@port-212-202-178-138.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:37 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-170-103.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:42 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-171-217.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:43 -!- litost [~user@phynp6.phy-astr.gsu.edu] has quit ("brb") 18:45 -!- fooblah [~slackware@pD9546779.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:45 * fooblah is back again 18:45 -!- holyolli__ [~holyolli@port-212-202-183-204.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:46 < owl> moin fooblah 18:46 < fooblah> owl: hiho 18:47 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-180-86.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18:47 -!- litost [~user@phynp6.phy-astr.gsu.edu] has joined #rocklinux 18:49 -!- holyolli__ is now known as holyolli 18:52 -!- holyolli_ [~holyolli@port-212-202-178-138.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18:52 < fooblah> hmm... i still got the error: No free loopback device found and mktemp :/ 18:54 < esden> *yawn* 18:54 < owl> esden: geh' ins bett ;P 18:54 * -> esden drinks coffee 18:55 < fooblah> *hrhr* 18:58 < tcr> re all 19:01 < esden> re tcr 19:08 < esden> woot: https://www.deviantart.com/view/748405 19:10 < huebi> Mike1: moin. Do zou test a mail bomb program? *g* 19:10 < huebi> [5 new messages! Most recent from Miguel A. Bolanos] 19:10 < Mike1> lol 19:10 < Mike1> hi huebi 19:10 < Mike1> huebi: expect 11 more 19:11 < Mike1> 9 more* 19:11 < Mike1> :P 19:11 < esden> huebi: these are 13 msg's from Miguel A. Bolanos 19:11 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-173-60.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:11 < Mike1> huebi: whats the status on the install disks? 19:12 < Mike1> esden: what cant i send patches sometimes? 19:12 < Mike1> *gg* 19:12 < huebi> Mike1: still not working. But I work hard on that issue. 19:12 < Mike1> esden: btw they were 14 total 19:12 < Mike1> huebi: ok 19:12 < esden> ah ... so I have to wait for the last one ;-) 19:13 < esden> ahh there is the last one 19:13 < Mike1> esden: huebi spect another mail bomb in a couple of hours maybe it will be bigger 19:13 < Mike1> :P 19:13 < esden> tztztz 19:14 < Mike1> huebi: how are you today btw? 19:14 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Man gewöhnt sich dran!") 19:14 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-183-204.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19:14 < huebi> Mike1: tired. These install-disk stuff is very confusing. 19:14 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-171-217.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:15 < Mike1> whats the problem? 19:16 < Mike1> ok i am going to get my self something to eat 19:17 < tcr> good luck 19:17 * Mike1 is away: having lunch with his lady :) 19:23 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 19:23 < owl> moin moin blindcoder 19:23 < esden> woot my desktop looks pretty good now 19:24 < esden> hmm ... deviantart rulez ;-) 19:27 < huebi> esden: What's up with the LCD patch? 19:31 < blindcoder> damn... need to reboot 19:31 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD9E4FBCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("reboot") 19:33 < esden> huebi: not yet there ... 19:33 < huebi> esden: why? 19:34 < huebi> esden: or better whjen will it be? 19:35 < esden> no time ... no idea when it will be ... when I have time to look at it ... i thought some time ago that I will have time to look at it ... but as you can see I am not sending any patches to no tree not the 1.7 and not the 1.5 ... -> no time >_< 19:36 < huebi> esden <- needs a time expander... 19:36 < esden> yes that is true 19:37 * tcr eatin 19:38 < SMP> *muahaha* 19:38 < SMP> YES, BIND 4/8 is screwed again 19:39 < huebi> SMP: LOL 19:39 < owl> moin SMP 19:39 < huebi> SMP: What do you think about replaceing bind with djbdns in 1.5.20? 19:40 < SMP> DON'T 19:40 < huebi> ? 19:40 < Mike1> hi SMP 19:41 < Mike1> huebi: keep bind please :) 19:41 < SMP> djbdns is not a complete replacement and people should be able to run BIND if they want to. 19:41 < huebi> license conform I mean. as source for building it yourself (I think it should better staz an extension.) 19:44 < SMP> well we can put the djbdns-1.05.tar.gz on the cdrom 19:44 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p50816B2E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:46 < huebi> SMP: I suggest /usr/src/djbdns as source directory. 19:46 < huebi> no 19:47 < huebi> better to all the other packages in opt-archive. 19:47 < SMP> yes 19:48 * Mike1 is back (gone 00:31:28) 19:49 < Mike1> huebi: BTW dont worry about the updates i made for 1.7 tree packages i will take care of updating them as well in 1.5 later today 19:49 < esden> huebi: when will be 1.6 out ? 19:50 < huebi> esden: When your patches for LCD apply cleanly and work perfect.\ 19:50 < Mike1> *ggg* 19:51 < esden> no ... LCD patch is not essentias ... that is not as showstopping feature ... so when you want to release it and I am not ready with the patch remove the sutff that is it 19:51 < esden> s,essentias,essential, 19:52 < esden> ok I ask once more ... when is the 1.6 deadline ? 19:52 < huebi> esden: It's afeature added in december. So feel free to finish your work. I can really wait for it. 19:53 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD9E4FBCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:53 < esden> ok ... you are the maintainer of the tree 19:53 < blindcoder> re 19:53 < esden> re blindcoder 19:54 < huebi> esden: Also the install disks are broken because of the bigger kernel and the more modules added. 19:54 < huebi> btw. how want's to make silo devfs aware? 19:55 < huebi> who even 19:55 < esden> huebi: you ? ;-) 19:56 < huebi> esden: When? Too many people left there crap as it was in 1.5.12. So I must first fix that. 19:56 < huebi> their even. 19:57 < huebi> :-) 19:57 < esden> yes ... right ... 19:57 < blindcoder> huebi: then fix that crap, release 1.6 and addd features _then_ 19:57 < esden> and what is still not working and not a showstopper remove it ... 19:57 < esden> and/or disable 19:58 < huebi> blindcoder: Fixing is making features reliable. at least in 1.5 19:58 < esden> 1.6 should be out for many months 19:58 < huebi> esden: LCD should have been finished in january 19:59 < esden> yes ... that is right ... but when it is not there ... is it so bad ? is it a showstopper ... ? 19:59 < esden> NO 19:59 < blindcoder> huebi: sure... but why do you need gnome2? xfs? and anything else that's been added over the past few moths? 19:59 < Mike1> blindcoder: gnome2 has not been aded to 1.5 19:59 -!- Decayer [~Daniel@200.198.124.171] has joined #rocklinux 20:00 < Mike1> blindcoder: at least not yet 20:00 < blindcoder> Mike1: not? I thought it was... Sorry! My mistake! 20:00 < huebi> blindcoder: Just send me your patches for Gnome 1.4 to build on sparc64. 20:00 < Mike1> blindcoder: i have it on my own personal 1.5 tree but not on the official tree 20:00 < blindcoder> root@crazyhorse:/usr/src/rock-src-1.7# ./scripts/Create-ISO -size 700 x86 x86-boot x86 20:00 < huebi> blindcoder: Do I get them tonight?? 20:00 < blindcoder> [20:02:06] Removing old files with same prefix .. 20:00 < blindcoder> [20:02:07] Reading configs and creating ISO index ... 20:00 < blindcoder> Shared: 33188 kB in 2624 files 20:00 < blindcoder> Disk 1: 683824 kB in 611 files (boot) 20:00 < blindcoder> Disk 2: 558836 kB in 265 files 20:01 < blindcoder> Total: 1275848 kB in 3500 files 20:01 < blindcoder> huebi: most certainly not. I never tried to compile 1.5 on/for sparc64 20:01 < blindcoder> I took 1.7 and within a week it booted via nfs on my Ultra... 20:02 < huebi> blindcoder: Gnome 1.4 is _not_ possible on sparc64 without heavily patching it. 20:02 < Decayer> who is the guy from Sweden ? 20:02 < tcr> anders? 20:02 < huebi> LocalHero. 20:02 < Decayer> ok 20:03 < [anders]> narf 20:03 < blindcoder> Then deactivate either Sparc64 or Gnome for Ultra. 20:03 * [anders] will soon head off to drive g/f to church.. Will do work tonight on rock-gnome2 though.. For as long as I have time.. 20:03 < blindcoder> We need a stable 1.6 if for nothing else than publicity. 20:04 < Mike1> huhu [anders] 20:04 < [anders]> trying to check out / update the rock-1.5 repository a.t.m. 20:04 < huebi> Do you all remember the flame about linux* a few months ago? 20:04 < [anders]> huhu Mike1 20:04 < [anders]> huhu huebi 20:04 < huebi> hi [anders] 20:04 < blindcoder> not really... micht have it in the archive though 20:04 < [anders]> only stopping briefly.. in fact, heading off out right this very moment.. 20:05 -!- Decayer [~Daniel@200.198.124.171] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 20:06 < huebi> It took my time for rock for 3 months. Nobody contributed to it to fix it. So if somebody wants to have 1.6 out faster just send patches to fix the broken stuff. 20:12 * SMP sighs deeply 20:12 * -> esden *no comment* 20:13 < fooblah> huebi: where do you from? 20:14 < Mike1> huebi: full ack 20:14 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD9E4FBCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:15 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD9E4FBCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:15 < esden> re blindcoder 20:16 < blindcoder> "dumb move. You strained a muscle." 20:17 < blindcoder> accidentally switched to framebuffer-console with the nvidia-kernel-module loaded >_< 20:24 < esden> huebi: could you please send me the lcd patch that I gave you at rock devel meeting ? 20:24 < tcr> lcd? 20:24 < tcr> blindcoder: the nvidia fb driver sucks! 20:25 < esden> tcr: blindcoder has fixed frequency monitors ... he has to use framebuffer ... 20:25 < huebi> esden: Yes, I send it to you as fast as possible. It's now in the office but I have it here online when I come back from the office. 20:25 < esden> ok ... I can not find the patch on my harddisk ... 20:25 < tcr> esden: VESA driver is much better, though slowlier 20:26 < esden> hmm ... ok ... 20:26 * -> esden is lucky not to have nvidia stuff in his box ;-) 20:27 < esden> so I have no problems wich this crap ;-) 20:27 < huebi> binutils-2.13.90.0.10, bison-1.75, e2fsprogs-1.32, python-2.2.2 built without any problems. 20:27 < huebi> rpm is still running... 20:28 < huebi> 4.1 20:29 < blindcoder> tcr: yes, but give me an asternative for using OpenGL 20:29 < tcr> opengl with fb? uh 20:29 < huebi> blindcoder: SGI drivers? 20:30 < huebi> tcr: hehe, I'd like to to have an OpenGL emulation for the xvfb. *gg* 20:33 < blindcoder> tcr: no, X 20:34 < huebi> blindcoder: SGI has some very nice OpenGL drivers for NVidia cards. 20:35 < blindcoder> hmm 20:35 < blindcoder> maybe worth a look 20:37 * paperclip is away: reading the fart book to my kid 20:37 * blindcoder needs te re-build MySQL 20:38 < esden> ok ... my lcd is reattached now ... and running 20:38 < huebi> esden: Thank you very much for doing that. :-)))) 20:39 < esden> huebi: denada ... 20:39 < blindcoder> hmm... that's the fifth package I need to re-build... 20:39 < Mike1> weee!!! esden cool 20:44 < esden> ok getting 1.5 sources 20:45 < esden> i mean packet sources ... 20:45 < huebi> hmm. A slightly overclocked Celeron (Mendocino) with 450 MHz is _way_ to slow for Rocklinux compile runs. 20:45 < esden> so I have something to test 20:46 < blindcoder> huebi: I'm goieng to compile ROCK an a Dual-50MHz-SparcStation20 so don't complain :) 20:47 < huebi> blindcoder: Be carefull. SMP seems to be broken on sparc. the flistwrapper does not get all files. 20:47 < blindcoder> hmm... then I'll rip one processor out, put it into the SS10 and start a cluster-build :) 20:48 * huebi compiling 1.5 on a 50MHz SparcClassic since 3 days. expected time: 38 days *ggg* 20:48 < blindcoder> sweet 20:48 < huebi> rpm-4.1 also compiles. 20:49 < huebi> my SparcStation IPC is broken. That would be the longest time Rocklinux would have been build. 20:51 < blindcoder> hmm... I have an IPX 20:51 < huebi> <AOL> me too, me too </AOL> 20:52 < huebi> gnome-python-1.4.2 rebuilt, too. 20:53 < blindcoder> AARRGGHH 20:53 < blindcoder> HHUUEEBBII 20:54 < huebi> blindcoder: Yes, what's up ? 20:54 < blindcoder> pkg-remove should _entirely_ _refuse_ to remove mysql 20:54 < blindcoder> root@crazyhorse:~# ls -l /etc/passwd 20:54 < blindcoder> ls: /etc/passwd: No such file or directory 20:55 < huebi> blindcoder: Argh. But thank zou for that bugreport. 20:55 < Mike1> blindcoder: got some news for you 20:56 < blindcoder> huebi: no... problem... 20:56 < blindcoder> Mike1: hm? 20:56 < Mike1> blindcoder: i will finish the pkg version updates on rene's tree today :) 20:57 < blindcoder> Mike1: fes, I've seen about a dozen updates sent by you 20:57 < blindcoder> Mike1: nice work. thanks! 20:57 < Mike1> blindcoder: btw do spect anyther mail bomp in a moment :) 20:58 < blindcoder> hehe 20:58 * Mike1 thinking who's tree will be next ... 20:58 * blindcoder currently trying to re-create his /etc/passwd 20:58 < blindcoder> I have no name!@crazyhorse:~$ 20:59 < huebi> blindcoder: do zou need an /etc/passwd? 21:00 < blindcoder> huebi: that would be nice, so I know at least what users I have to create 21:00 < blindcoder> blindcoder@crazyhorse:~$ 21:00 < huebi> blindcoder: mom 21:00 < blindcoder> ah, better 21:09 < huebi> I search a new maintainer for mysql in 1.5. It's completly broken and skaar does not do anything on it. 21:09 < blindcoder> brb 21:10 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD9E4FBCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 21:12 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD9E4FBCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:13 < blindcoder> re 21:13 < Mike1> huebi: i will maintain it 21:18 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc3-stoc3-4-cust114.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit ("leaving") 21:18 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9525551.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:18 < owl> oh gott. der tsa. hi 21:18 < tsa> tag 21:18 < tsa> hehe 21:19 < tsa> hi owl. *hug* 21:19 < tsa> *G* 21:19 < Mike1> hi tsa 21:19 < tsa> hi Mike1 21:19 < owl> ... der tsa kommt nicht allein... ein hug kommt mit herein... 21:19 < tsa> hast du gesoffen? 21:19 < owl> tsa: *lol* nein. bin nur gut gelaunt, warum? 21:19 < tsa> hehe 21:19 < tsa> das ist gut. 21:20 < owl> ;) 21:20 < owl> wie geht's, channel-fast-opa... 21:20 < tsa> hehe..gut eigentlich 21:21 < owl> tsa: ;) gut so 21:22 < tsa> owl: deine froehlichkeit verwirrt mich...haben Mike1 und du endlich zueinandergefunden? 21:22 < tsa> *duck* 21:23 < huebi> re 21:23 < tsa> moin huebi 21:23 < huebi> moin tsa 21:23 < Mike1> tsa: no molestes ya sabes que ella es toda tuya 21:24 < owl> tsa: *lol* nein, nur eine reihe buecher von nietsche und hesse und k.a. einfach alles :) 21:24 < Mike1> re huebi 21:24 < huebi> tsa: rechnug kommt naechste Woche. 21:24 < owl> tach huebi 21:24 < tsa> huebi: hehe...das glaub ich erst, wenn ich die auf dem tisch hab ;-) 21:24 < tsa> was macht 1.5.20? 21:24 * huebi just commiting a huge bunch of changes/fixes. 21:24 < Mike1> huebi: if you like i will maintain mysql 21:25 < huebi> Mike1: reat. yes, please do it. 21:25 < huebi> +G 21:25 < Mike1> huebi: ok thanks :) 21:26 < Mike1> and btw please let me when commit is finished 21:27 < huebi> Mike1: ack 21:28 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p508132FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:34 < esden> woot! : https://www.esden.net/desktops/shots/rock-on-desktop.png 21:34 < esden> new cool desktop design by esden ;-) 21:35 < blindcoder> SHIT FUCKING 21:35 < esden> ? 21:35 < blindcoder> why the fuck can't I compile mysql?? 21:35 < esden> o_O 21:37 < blindcoder> I get fucking errors mith unresolved sfmbols in libstdc++.so.5 21:38 < esden> hmm ... unresolved symbols is the always returning problem ... 21:38 < esden> but i do not know a fix for it ... 21:40 < blindcoder> when updating the glibc seems to have been a bad idea for "everyday things" 21:41 < blindcoder> and it's quarter to ten again already 21:41 < blindcoder> need to pick up drachi tomorrow... 21:42 < blindcoder> make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/mysql-3.23.51/sql' 21:42 < blindcoder> g++ -DMYSQL_SERVER -DDEFAULT_MYSQL_HOME="\"/opt/mysql/\"" -DDATADIR="\"/opt/mysql//var\"" -DSHAREDIR="\"/opt/mysql//share/mysql\"" -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I./../include -I./../regex -I. -I../include -I.. -I. -O3 -DDBUG_OFF -fno-implicit-templates -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -c sql_lex.cc 21:42 < blindcoder> sql_lex.cc: In function `void lex_init()': 21:42 < blindcoder> sql_lex.cc:85: `symbols' undeclared (first use this function) 21:42 < blindcoder> sql_lex.cc:85: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each 21:42 < blindcoder> function it appears in.) 21:42 < blindcoder> sql_lex.cc:87: `sql_functions' undeclared (first use this function) 21:42 < blindcoder> sql_lex.cc: In function `int find_keyword(LEX*, unsigned int, bool)': 21:42 < blindcoder> sql_lex.cc:168: `get_hash_symbol' undeclared (first use this function) 21:42 < blindcoder> WHY? WHY? WHY? 21:42 < blindcoder> make[3]: *** [sql_lex.o] Error 1 21:43 < blindcoder> can anyone compile a static mysql 3 for me? 21:44 < blindcoder> hmm... idea 21:48 < blindcoder> how can I make the mysqld listen on tcp? 21:49 < esden> blindcoder: why have you to pickup her ? 21:49 < blindcoder> esden: she doesn't want to go by train alone. how can I make the mysqld listen on tcp? 21:50 -!- capone [~capone@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 21:50 < esden> blindcoder: hmm ... you ask me really good questions ... no idea ... it is too long time I have set up mysql 21:52 < huebi> blindcoder: ./configure --with-tcp-port=3306 21:52 < capone> hi 21:52 < huebi> moin capone 21:53 < capone> :) 21:53 < Mike1> re capone 21:53 < esden> hi capone 21:53 < capone> it's interesting to know linuxthreads will be integrated in 2.6 kernels 21:55 < blindcoder> huebi: not compiletime 21:55 < blindcoder> huebi: I want to start it 21:55 < blindcoder> I added --port=3306 but it ignores it 21:57 < huebi> blindcoder: hmm. I don't know. 22:00 < fooblah> hmm... 22:00 < capone> fooblah: what did u do with ur mktemp prob ? 22:00 < fooblah> gcc3.2 will not work with march=athlon-tbird 22:01 < fooblah> capone: i wanted to make all again... 22:01 < esden> rofl ! : https://www.deviantart.com/view/252072 22:01 < fooblah> but now.. everything goes wrong 22:01 < capone> u dunt have to make it all again 22:01 < fooblah> caopne: i've done all the things who was said... 22:01 < capone> if u already built a new kernel and rock linux, u should have a mktemp binary which will help u to make ur install disks 22:02 < fooblah> the mktemp is not so important... the building is my problem cause there are some problems... 22:02 < fooblah> fist gcc don't want to accept the flag march=athlon-tbird 22:02 < capone> like ? 22:02 < fooblah> so all others programs after gcc aren't used/compiled... 22:03 < fooblah> i wait until there's a new release and hope it will work... 22:03 < capone> umm 22:03 < fooblah> <<begins to give up... :/ 22:05 < capone> try other architecture 22:05 < capone> generic ones, i586-pc.. etc 22:05 < capone> now i have to leave again, cya 22:05 < fooblah> hmm... i try athlon 22:05 < fooblah> capone: cya 22:05 -!- capone [~capone@208.165.55.133] has left #rocklinux () 22:06 < blindcoder> esden: can you test scavenger.homeip.net if you get any errors? 22:07 < esden> mom 22:07 < esden> this flash is cool: https://www.deviantart.com/view/518472 22:07 < blindcoder> don't have flash installed 22:07 < esden> yes I know you have not ... because of your strange ... "ueberzeugungen" 22:08 < blindcoder> esden: okay nevermind. tested it from apollo and it works 22:08 < esden> yes ... I am testing it at the moment and it works too 22:08 < esden> I thought you wanted me to surf a bit ... because of the new mysql 22:09 * Mike1 preparing another mail bomb to the mailing list 22:10 < esden> Mike1: urgh! 22:10 < Mike1> esden: this one is even bigger :) *vbeg* 22:10 < esden> *sigh* 22:10 < esden> ;-) 22:11 < Mike1> better a mail bomb full of patches than flame full of crap dont you think? 22:11 < blindcoder> esden: oh.. okay, thanks :) 22:12 < esden> hmm ... not bad : https://www.deviantart.com/view/356718 22:12 < blindcoder> I just moved the web and mysql to sundance, the Dual-50MHz-SparcStatios20 :) 22:13 < esden> ehhm .. I thought you wanted to move everything to a intel box so you can use the sparcstation for compiling ... 22:13 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@dhcp024-210-222-139.woh.rr.com] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:13 < blindcoder> esden: yes, but I need a 1.7 Iso for that first 22:14 < blindcoder> it currently displays a nice "No Oprating System found" after POST 22:14 < esden> woooooot that is coool !!! https://www.deviantart.com/view/672632 22:14 < blindcoder> I just wait for Mikes Patches te get into cvs and compile it then 22:16 < esden> quote from the deviantart site: \ 22:16 < esden> " Slackwear is GAY! How can anyone still use such outdated crap. Hey buddy, here is clue: everyon ewith brain has switched to modern distribution like Mandrake or Gentoo, not outdated non-rpm bullshit like Slackware." 22:16 < Mike1> blindcoder: i will mail then in no longer than 5 minutes 22:16 < blindcoder> esden: yes, I read it >_< 22:17 < Mike1> BWAHAHAHA 22:17 < owl> esden: *lol* rpm...... hahahahahaha! 22:17 < Mike1> where did you get that crap? 22:17 < blindcoder> Mike1: sweet. I, however, do to sleep now 22:17 < owl> ouch. 22:17 < owl> gn8 blindcoder 22:17 < Mike1> blindcoder: you sure? 22:17 < blindcoder> I've scremed up enough for one day 22:17 < Mike1> blindcoder: ok 22:17 < blindcoder> good night, everyone! 22:17 < esden> blindcoder: sleep well 22:20 < Mike1> blindcoder: oyasumi nasai ! 22:21 < fooblah> hmm... 22:21 < fooblah> "outdated" aha... 22:21 < fooblah> "non-rpm" rofl 22:22 < fooblah> yeah "klick_klick" 22:22 < fooblah> i love slackware 22:22 < Mike1> though i wouldnt use slackware 22:22 < fooblah> and i never kill my slack partition 22:22 < Mike1> :) 22:22 < esden> yes slackware rulez ... mandrake and gentoo sux 22:22 < tsa> anyone still running bind 8.x? 22:22 < esden> tsa: ;-) 22:22 < fooblah> esden: yeah :) 22:22 < huebi> tsa: No, only 9.1.3 22:22 < tsa> https://bvlive01.iss.net/issEn/delivery/xforce/alertdetail.jsp?oid=21469 22:22 * Mike1 moved from slackware to rock and will never _ever_ go back 22:22 < tsa> once again... *sigh* 22:23 < esden> but what rulez the most : rock linux 1.7 22:23 < tsa> esden: 2.0 is better. 22:23 < tsa> (you'll just have to code it before you can test it.. 22:23 < tsa> ) 22:23 < esden> bloody cutting edge world domination and ruling software ;-) 22:23 < esden> tsa: correct 22:23 < huebi> *g* 22:31 < esden> holy shitt ... : https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?Library=4&SkinID=197 22:31 < huebi> djb tool sources are now in opt-archive. 22:31 < esden> why is it for xp ? !!! 22:32 < tsa> uhm..a probably stupid question.. 22:32 < tsa> how do i upate 1.7 via cvs? 22:33 < tsa> i only know the update mechanism with rsync. 22:33 < Mike1> tsa: cvs -z 9 -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs checkout -P rock-src-1.7 22:33 < esden> cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs co rock-src-1.7 22:34 < tsa> thx. 22:34 < esden> and then normally with cvs -z3 -q up -Pd 22:35 < tsa> hm.. 22:35 < tsa> cvs up? i do not remember having write access to that repository.. 22:36 < tsa> (i don 22:36 < huebi> tsa: Zou don\t need. 22:36 < tsa> 't remember seeing this cvs server mentioned on the mailing list, either..) 22:36 < huebi> it's pserver. 22:37 < tsa> i'm not really familiar with cvs - where's the difference. 22:37 < tsa> let's assume i change something and "cvs up; cvs ci"....what will happen? 22:37 < huebi> tsa: nothing. 22:38 < tsa> that's not much. 22:38 < tsa> is there any sense in doing cvs up at all? 22:38 < huebi> the pserver user has only the right to co and up 22:38 < tsa> which means i can "up" any changes and clifford has to commit them by hand? 22:39 < esden> cvs up is for updating your repository on your harddrive 22:39 < huebi> up - update. You don't need to co all again. 22:39 < tsa> ah, i see. 22:40 < tsa> did clifford ever mention how to access his cvs? 22:40 < huebi> Mike1: cvs is now up to date. 22:40 < Mike1> huebi: wow it took long, thanks i will check out in a moment 22:41 < huebi> tsa: I never read about cliffords cvs. 22:41 * tsa neither, therefore i'm asking. 22:43 < Mike1> huebi: it is specified on https://www.rocklinux.org/snapshots/ 22:45 < huebi> 49 changes in cvs today by me. 22:45 < Mike1> :) 22:46 < huebi> stud.fbi.fh-darmstadt.de seems to be offline. :( 22:55 < esden> hmm ... what is the name of the blackbox improovement project ? 22:56 < Mike1> mail bomb in process... 22:58 < tsa> :(){ :|:&};: | mail -s ... ? ;) 22:59 < huebi> tsa: what does that mean? 23:00 < tsa> huebi: feel free to try it: bash$ :(){ :|:&};: 23:00 < tsa> NOT! 23:01 < tsa> : is a function calling itself two times.. 23:01 < tsa> nothing but a small and nice fork bomb with bash.. 23:02 < huebi> tsa: Hmm. Time to read a little bit in the bash sripting howto again. 23:02 < tsa> hehe ;-) 23:03 * tsa installing vendetta 23:03 < tsa> https://vendetta.guildsoftware.com/ 23:07 < huebi> tsa: looks nice. 23:07 < huebi> Mike1: 2 mor fixes are now in cvs 23:08 < Mike1> huebi: great i will check out now 23:08 < Mike1> 33 patches for 1.7 are enought for today 23:08 < huebi> Mike1: :-) 23:08 < Mike1> i will now go over and work on 1.5 tree 23:08 < Mike1> got updates to do, and have to fix mysql 23:09 < Mike1> BTW sorry for the mail bombs guys *ggg* 23:09 < owl> Mike1: omg. mail-bombing for 1.7 completed, mail-bombin for 1.5 started? 23:09 < Mike1> owl i have cvs write ascess to 1.5 cvs so i dont need to mail patches 23:09 < owl> :))) 23:10 < Mike1> owl: but i promisse i will send more 1.7 patches tomorrow 23:10 -!- term_emu [~pm@p508190A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("zz") 23:10 < Mike1> :) 23:10 < Mike1> just in honor to you 23:10 < owl> oh god! the poor mail-server(s)... 23:10 -!- capchaos is now known as depp 23:10 < huebi> hi depp 23:11 < Mike1> owl: nah that mail server rocks 23:11 < owl> *g* 23:11 < Mike1> it can handle me :) 23:11 < depp> hi *g 23:11 < huebi> Stud is still down. 23:11 < Mike1> hi depp 23:11 < Mike1> huebi: what happened to it? 23:11 < huebi> I mirror all the new sources tomorrow. 23:11 -!- kasc [~shaman@p5090ACFA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:12 < Mike1> huebi: yes please wait as i need to make fixes on 1.5 to update some of the packages that i updated for 1.7 23:12 < Mike1> so tomorrow we _WILL_ be updated 23:12 < rolla> Mike you are nuts with all these patches ;) 23:12 < huebi> Mike1: I don't know and I don't want to call the server room it is inside. I think they just make some hardware changes. 23:13 < Mike1> rolla i dont hace cvs access to 1.7 what am i supposed to do? 23:13 < Mike1> btw huebi i will have to move my rsync server to another box odin has less than 200 mb free in total!! 23:14 < Mike1> i need to clean up that thing 23:15 < rolla> :) 23:17 < Mike1> ok i check out 1.5 now :) 23:17 < huebi> re 23:18 < Mike1> re huebi 23:18 < huebi> The whole network is down at the stud. 23:18 < Mike1> huebi: damnit 23:18 < Mike1> did you call? 23:18 * huebi had to phone *g* 23:18 < Mike1> :) 23:18 < huebi> yes, I called one of the admins. 23:19 < Mike1> huebi: excellent *bug*bug*bug* 23:19 < huebi> Quite much traffic on that server on the rocklinux area. :-) 23:21 < huebi> Cu tomorrow. I need to go back to the office making new boot images. 23:21 < huebi> good night. 23:21 < Mike1> huebi: ok nacht mein dreund 23:22 < Mike1> freund even 23:22 < huebi> :) 23:23 < Mike1> cowsay is in the base !!! yeah *jumparound* 23:26 -!- litost [~user@phynp6.phy-astr.gsu.edu] has quit ("nightnight") 23:27 -!- depp is now known as sonoferis 23:43 -!- c4y0 [~c4y0@cable200-75-73-72.epm.net.co] has joined #rocklinux 23:43 < c4y0> hello! 23:44 < sonoferis> hi c4y0 23:51 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E39667.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client excited") --- Log closed Wed Nov 13 00:00:03 2002