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--- Log opened Tue Dec 10 00:00:28 2002
--- Day changed Tue Dec 10 2002
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00:15 < owl> re
00:25 < tsa> re chick ;)
00:25 < owl> tsa: schnabel ;P
00:25 < tsa> hehehe
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00:28 < owl> tsa: ;P maenner...
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00:29 < owl> oh gott. noch so ein armer mensch, der einen proxy verwenden muss???
00:29 < owl> oder nur ein irc..?
00:30 < tsa> ja nein vielleicht oder doch nicht?
00:30 * owl merkt mal an: vorsicht tsa, ich kenn' mich in berlin soweit aus, dass ich weiss, wo's ein richtig fieses schwert zu kaufen gibt
00:31 < tsa> bissu beim 19c3?
00:31 < owl> tsa: ja.
00:31 < owl> fange schon mal an zu beten ;)
00:31 < tsa> ok...dann muss ich ma mit kollege labern, dass der keine frauen reinlaesst..
00:32 < owl> warum denn?
00:32 < tsa> damit du draussen frierst
00:33 < tsa> ..und wir drinnen basteln
00:33 < tsa> :-P
00:33 < owl> nee, ich habe ein hotel ;P
00:33 < owl> und gegen eine berliner kneipen-tour habe ich auch nix... ;PPP
00:33 < tsa> darfst du abends denn schon  alleine weg?
00:34 < owl> aber sicher. bin schliesslich volljaehrig.
00:35 < tsa> ..aber noch lange nich erwachsen..
00:35 < owl> tsa: och? wer weiss? ;)
00:35 < owl> tsa: manche leute sind 25 und noch nicht erwachsen, ne? ;)
00:37 < tsa> soll vorkommen.
00:37 < tsa> wer ist denn 25?
00:37 < owl> immer die die fragen (oder taeusche ich mich?)
00:39 < tsa> lass mich raten - mathe kannst du auch nicht?
00:40 < owl> ich habe dein geburtsdatum ned im kopf sondern glaube mich daran zu erinnern, dass du vor - nicht allzulanger zeit - sprich sommer oder so - 25 geworden bist...? ;)
00:40 < owl> oder taeusche ich mich?
00:40 < tsa> waere mir neu
00:41 < owl> 100? 150? 200?
00:42 < tsa> nein. du kannst nur einfach nicht rechnen. aber du bist ja auch weiblich, da stelle ich nicht so hehe ansprueche und verzeihe dir...
00:42 < tsa> s,hehe,hohe,
00:42 < owl> und du beherrscht nicht mal die kunst des tippens...
00:42 < owl> aber als mann... dir sei noch ein letztes mal verziehen...
00:45 < owl> 24...? tschuldigung... (kaum gehen die leute auf die 30 zu, werden sie schon empfindlich was ein jahr +- angeht...)
00:45 < tsa> hehehe
00:47 < owl> ja, lach nur... :P
00:49 < owl> hat jemand ahnung bzw. erfahrung mit wlan-pcmcia-cards...?
00:49 < tsa> ja.
00:49 < tsa> ..aber nicht ich.
00:50 < owl> tsa: also das glaube ich dir auf's wort.
00:52 < tsa> macht nix, hast du morgen sowieso wieder vergessen.
00:53 < owl> tsa: sicher. bin schliesslich krank. (gute aussrede, ne?) ;)
00:53 < tsa> ja, kopfkrank.
00:53 < tsa> *duck*
00:55 < owl> ja, temporaer kopfkrank. aber schlimmer waere es wenn ich es immer waere - sprich: wenn ich ein mann waere...
00:57 * tsa meldet owl auf www.kiffer.de/sexy an
00:57 < tsa> *giggle*
00:57 < owl> nicht wirklich.
00:58 < tsa> hehehe
00:58 < owl> tsa: hassu gekifft heute?
01:00 < tsa> noe
01:00 < tsa> ich bin immer so.
01:00 < owl> tsa: noch schlimmer.
01:09 < tsa> *kakaomach*
01:09 < owl> tsa: ? was ist jetzt los?
01:10 < tsa> nuex ;)
01:11 < tsa> was sollte denn los sein?
01:12 < owl> tsa: ich weiss ja ned... bist du dir wirklich sicher, dass ich keinen arzt rufen soll??? oder besser: die mit den weissen jacken...?
01:12 < tsa> wieso das?
01:13 < owl> oh gott... jetzt erinnerst du mich langsam aber sicher an jemanden
01:18 < tsa> ???
01:18 < tsa> hassu gesoffen?
01:18 < tsa> dein hirn gespendet?
01:19 < owl> *lol* nein.
01:20 < owl> nur fragt die person, die ich meine, auch alle 0.9 sekunden "wieso"?
01:23 < tsa> wieso?
01:23 < tsa> :-P
01:24 < owl> spinner
01:24 < owl> halt nein, mann
01:24 < tsa> die erkenntnis kommt spaet..
01:25 < owl> besser spaet als nie
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01:28 < owl> *grml*
01:28 < owl> re
01:28 < owl> kernel panics waerhend des brennens gehoeren verboten!
01:29 * tsa tippt auf ide-brenner.
01:29 < owl> tsa: ja. notebook...
01:30 < tsa> selber schuld
01:30 < owl> tsa: aber liegt nicht daran... sondern eher, dass im acpi-patch wohl noch irgendwo ein fehler ist...
01:30 < tsa> falsch.
01:30 < owl> tsa: was denn?
01:30 < tsa> 99% aller acpi-implementationen sind broken,.
01:32 < th_> acpi?
01:32 < owl> bitte?
01:32 < owl> acpi...
01:32 < th_> is das nicht die kranke variante vom APM?
01:32 < tsa> jupp.
01:32 < th_> sowas nimmt man doch nicht... *noergel*
01:32 < owl> hm. sicher. apm geht gleich gar nicht
01:33 < th_> hmm?
01:33 < tsa> owl: dann hast du wohl schrott gekauft.
01:33 < th_> was enablest du denn, bzw. was geht dann nicht?
01:33 < owl> tsa: noe.
01:33 < owl> th_: sagen wir so: das einzige was geht mit apm ist "suspend to ram"
01:33 < th_> owl: reicht doch, was willst du mehr?
01:33 < owl> (und das ist das einzige was nicht geht bei acpi)
01:33 < th_> ich disable das ganze apm zeug immer
01:34 < owl> z.b. anzeige battery-status
01:34 < th_> cat /proc/apm
01:34 < tsa> cat: /proc/apm: No such file or directory
01:35 < owl> theoretisch schon. nur: z.t. wurden schon (im batterie-modus) extrem falsche werte angezeigt -129 minuten...
01:35 < th_> hmmm
01:35 < th_> naja wie gesagt ich kann auch ohne apm leben
01:35 < th_> obwohl ich das im laptop auch enabled habe
01:35 < owl> und das ist nicht wirklich witzig, wenn man dann im zug sitzt und "hm. kann ich jetzt noch riskieren weiterzuarbeiten"...
01:35 < th_> da hab ich nur jegliches suspenden per bios ausgemacht
01:36 < th_> und /proc/apm geht einigermaszen
01:36 < owl> hm.
01:36 < owl> gluecklich die, bei denen es zuverlaessig geht
01:37 < owl> aber was gibt es gegen acpi einzuwenden?
01:39 < th_> 01:30:51 < tsa> 99% aller acpi-implementationen sind broken,.
01:39 < owl> die patches?
01:39 < tsa> HARDWARE.
01:40 < owl> hm. d.h. welche auswirkungen hat das/wie macht sich des bemerkbar?
01:40 < tsa> *seufz*
01:40 < tsa> es geht nicht bzw. kackt ab.
01:40 < tsa> .oO( wer laesst eigentlich frauen an rechner? )
01:42 < owl> hm. bei mir geht's. und kackt nicht ab. allerdings gab's in dem 2.4.19er-kernel, in den ich einen patch-applied habe, der acpi-betrifft, seit dem applien abstuerze. im 2.4.19er (nicht-gepacht) keine probleme. und im 2.5.xx er auch ned. also liegt es wohl nicht unbedingt an der hardware, oder?
01:45 < tsa> owl: und was hast du daraus gelernt?
01:45 < owl> lasse keinen mann programmieren?
01:47 < tsa> *sigh*
01:57 < owl> uff. gn8. bye
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02:30 < tsa> n8
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07:20 < d3mian> hi
07:21 < d3mian> umm
07:22 < d3mian> cya
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08:27 < Lorini> moin
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09:35 < fake> morgen
09:36 < fake> <- guten-morgen-zigarette
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09:48 < blindcoder> moin
09:49 * blindcoder just back from the doc
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11:12 * fake installing Solaris cc ;)
11:12 < fake> hehe
11:12 < fake> gotta get a copy of that cd...
11:12 < fake> sun one studio 7
11:12 < fake> *hrhr*
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11:42 < SMP> aargh
11:47 < [anders]> lo
11:49 < [anders]> Can anyone clarify if the 1.5/1.6 tree will compile using GCC 3.2 ? Unfortunately that is the only compiler I have available to use now...
11:51 < SMP> I doubt it will
11:51 < [anders]> that is a bit of a bummer..
11:52 < [anders]> Any ideas what bits of it that is likely to break? I guess the glibc should be able to cope anyway.
11:53 < SMP> gcc 2.95.3 and glibc 2.2.5 are most likely to brea
11:53 < SMP> beak
11:53 < SMP> break
11:53 < SMP> damnit
11:53 < SMP> hmm
11:54 < SMP> you'll have a glibc compiled with gcc 3.2 and the rest of the build (stage 2-5) will try to use the gcc 2.95.3 with it
11:56 < [anders]> so the best thing to do would be to try and port 1.6 to gcc 3.2 .. glibc 2.2.5 seems to work quite nicely with either compiler..
11:56 < [anders]> perhaps I should try this in private..
11:59 * [anders] just do not have the time to sit and hack like before.. there is almost no spare private time to devote to rock... or rather, there is no private time to devote to rock at the moment..
12:00 < [anders]> perhaps after the divorce and the contract negotiations and christmas and new year and all the other fscking things eating up my time, I'll be able to get some stuff done..
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13:24 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
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14:13 < [anders]> lo blindcoder
14:15 < blindcoder> hi [anders]
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14:15 < owl> hi
14:15 < blindcoder> hi owly !
14:15 < owl> moin blindy
14:17 < Lorini> hi ihr
14:17 < owl> hi Lorini
14:17 < blindcoder> hi Lori *winke*
14:18 < [anders]> lo owl
14:20 < owl> hi [anders]. how r u?
14:21 < [anders]> owl: not bad, but could be a lot better. how about you?
14:22 < owl> [anders]: hm. could be better. i'm still ill. thx.
14:22 < blindcoder> [anders]: she's simulating :)
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14:23 < owl> blindcoder: shut up! ;)
14:23 < blindcoder> tele
14:25 < blindcoder> damn stupid lusers
14:26 < blindcoder> don't even know how to change the "Startseite" in their browsers
14:27 < bishopmobile> lol helpdesk?
14:27 < owl> *lol*
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14:28 < rolla> re
14:29 < owl> re rolla
14:29 < blindcoder> bishopmobile: yes >_<
14:31 < esden> hi all
14:31 < fake> reee
14:31 < bishopmobile> uhh helpdesk is extrem lame!!!
14:32 < owl> hi esden, fake
14:33 < blindcoder> and now nhe
14:33 < blindcoder> hi esden
14:34 < blindcoder> and now and she wants to have the webalizer output explained to her >_<
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14:37 < blindcoder> esden: just for the record: I'll definately go to 19C3
14:37 < blindcoder> bishopmobile: yes, but currentyl there isn't much more to do.
14:41 < esden> blindcoder: ok ... good to know ;-)
14:49 < blindcoder> esden: mail to ccc@binge out in 2 seconds
14:49 < blindcoder> give or take a few minutes depending on MTA :)
14:50 < esden> blindcoder: waiting ;-)
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15:36 < Mike1> hi all
15:36 < blindcoder> hi Mike1 !
15:37 < Lorini> hi Mike1!!
15:43 < rolla> Mike1
15:44 < blindcoder> Lorini: Mike1 doesn't seem very respnsive right now :)
15:44 * Mike1 responding
15:44 < Mike1> :P
15:44 < Mike1> hi blindy lory rolly
15:44 < Mike1> *g
15:44 < Lorini> hehe /me talking to mike
15:47 < [anders]> lo Mike1, how are things with you today my friend?
15:47 < Mike1> master [anders]!
15:47 < Mike1> hi
15:48 < Mike1> things are fine thanks what about ur side?
15:48 < Mike1> its been quite a long time my friend
15:48 < [anders]> Mike1: well, apart from the bad bits, things are doing alright..
15:49 < [anders]> still no time to tinker with ROCK which is unfortunate. and I think I have found another snag. My boxes now only have the gcc 3.2 compiler.. that will cause some problems I think..
15:50 < Mike1> mm...
15:50 < Mike1> like ?
15:52 < [anders]> Mike1: rock 1.5/1.6 uses 2.95.3, if I build stage 1 using gcc 3.2 and then stage 2-5 is built using the 2.95.3 compiler, things will not link properly as glibc is _only_ built in stage 1...
15:52 < Mike1> true
15:52 < Mike1> arrg that sucks
15:52 < [anders]> Yep..
15:53 < [anders]> I think this could be the reason why I had so much trouble building things on Debian.. Got to check that though..
15:54 < [anders]> hmm.. Debian uses 2.95.4 so things should (!) work there..
15:54 < [anders]> Although Debian is not working 100% on my shuttle, so I might install SuSE there as well.. Have to think about that though.
15:54 < Mike1> [anders]: sure it will be fun to build pkgs on debian
15:55 < [anders]> err, not really..
15:55 < Mike1> dh_make -e anders@rocklinux.org -f linux-2.4.20
15:55 < [anders]> Debian is probably very nice.. But I am more used to Rock and SuSE in the way they are configured and handled.
15:56 < Mike1> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
15:56 < Mike1> :)
15:57 < Mike1> i know both rock and suse
15:57 < Mike1> and have been getting involved in debian in the past weeks
15:59 < [anders]> Mike1: sure, Debian has nice features, but it is driving me mad because it is harder to administer than other systems..
16:00 < Mike1> [anders]: sure it is, try building cluster apps from srpms to .deb without using alien
16:01 < [anders]> erk.. not nice..
16:01 < Mike1> [anders]: believe me it is not
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17:00 < esden> re hi all
17:02 < fake> re esden
17:21 * fake packts
17:21 < esden> bis dann
17:21 < fake> bis nacher!
17:21 < esden> we are awaiting you fake 
17:22 < aszlig> yep..
17:22 < aszlig> btw, the router of bs1, too ;0
17:22 < aszlig> arghs
17:22 < aszlig> s/..$/;)/
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17:59 < bishophome> hi
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18:15 < owl> re
18:21 < aszlig> re'lo
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18:52 < owl> re
18:57 < Mike1> re all
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18:59 < owl> re Mike1
18:59 < owl> Mike1: how r u ?
18:59 < Mike1> i am great
18:59 < Mike1> thx
19:00 < Mike1> mm... i am hungry.. will have lunch now
19:01 < owl> guten appettit
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19:07 < armijn> re
19:08 < owl> re armijn
19:08 < armijn> hi owl
19:08 < armijn> it's so cold...
19:08 < armijn> maybe I should hug you just to get warm...
19:09 < owl> hm. that's a bad idea... i'm also cold as ice caused by my illness
19:10 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1C772.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
19:10 < armijn> owl: hmm, too bad...
19:11 < armijn> owl: you should be in bed then...
19:12 < owl> i'm in bed. (but ancoras is with me ;PPP )
19:12 < armijn> ah, your lover..
19:12 < owl> yes, the one of my sleepless nights... you know :)
19:13 < armijn> so, ehr...how big is he?
19:13 < armijn> or, how long...
19:13 < owl> *lol*
19:13 < owl> it's a asus l3800c notebook... for further information ask asus.com or so. ;)
19:13 < armijn> I know it's a notebook...duh...
19:13 < armijn> I just wanted other people to be confused :)
19:13 < owl> ;P
19:14 < armijn> vlo# ls -l /tmp/bla
19:14 < armijn> -rw-r--r--+ 1 root  wheel  4 Dec 10 19:08 /tmp/bla
19:14 < owl> hehe ;)
19:14 < armijn> I like that "+" thingie at the end...
19:14 < owl> how r u btw?
19:14 < armijn> of the permissions...
19:14 < armijn> oh, I'm cold...
19:14 < owl> you're man, what do you expect...?
19:14 < armijn> that's why I booted a few more machines here...
19:15 < armijn> vlo# uname -a
19:15 < armijn> FreeBSD vlo.st-lab.cs.uu.nl 5.0-RC1 FreeBSD 5.0-RC1 #0: Sat Dec  7 22:16:29 GMT 2002     root@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
19:15 < armijn> owl: busy, as usual...
19:15 < owl> i c. btw, will you be at 19c3?
19:16 < armijn> nope
19:16 < armijn> no CCC for me this year
19:16 < owl> why not? too much work?
19:16 < armijn> owl: I see...you wanted to see me IRL...to see if I'm actually as cool as you think I am...
19:17 < armijn> well, actually I'm way cooler...
19:17 < armijn> or, at least, colder...
19:18 < owl> *lol*
19:18 < armijn> owl: too much stuff to read, want to reverse engineer a USB device, cross compile stuff on Alpha, etc.
19:18 < armijn> got 3 XP books to read
19:18 < owl> i c. XP?
19:19 < armijn> yeah, XP
19:19 < owl> M$ windows eXPerienced bug?
19:19 < armijn> no
19:19 < armijn> Extreme Programming
19:19 < owl> ah so. i thought you catched a illness and mutated into M$ fan ;)
19:21 < armijn> I do have a few WinXP machines to administer as well
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19:21 < armijn> so I'm also reading up on that stuff
19:22 < armijn> will need to install new machines here soon...
19:22 < owl> oh god! and - you love XP of course, don't you? ;) this wonderful colored "OS"...
19:22 < armijn> dual boot with XP/RedHat
19:22 < armijn> XP is fun...
19:22 < armijn> to nmap :)
19:22 < owl> *g*
19:22 < armijn> a default install comes with so much crap...
19:23 < owl> yep. of course.
19:23 < armijn> (sorry, flood)
19:23 < armijn> [armijn@losser:~]$ nmap visualbasic
19:23 < armijn> Starting nmap V. 2.53 by fyodor@insecure.org ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
19:23 < armijn> Interesting ports on visualbasic.st-lab.cs.uu.nl (131.211.84.89):
19:23 < armijn> (The 1515 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
19:23 < armijn> Port       State       Service
19:23 < armijn> 25/tcp     open        smtp
19:23 < armijn> 135/tcp    open        loc-srv
19:23 < armijn> 139/tcp    open        netbios-ssn
19:23 < armijn> 445/tcp    open        microsoft-ds
19:23 < armijn> 1025/tcp   open        listen
19:23 < armijn> 1030/tcp   open        iad1
19:23 < armijn> 3389/tcp   open        msrdp
19:23 < armijn> 5000/tcp   open        fics
19:23 < armijn> Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 1 second
19:23 < armijn> an smtp server??
19:23 < armijn> yes, an smtp server.
19:24 < owl> :)) omg!
19:24 < armijn> and oh, no need to try from the outside...there's a pretty strong ipfilter filtering bridge in between that machine and the Internet
19:24 < armijn> brb
19:25 < owl> armijn: i guess you will need the firewall if you're running XP
19:30 < armijn> owl: definitely
19:31 < owl> but - who the fsck needs/wants win XP?
19:34 < armijn> well, it used to be a Windows only lab
19:34 < armijn> but that's because it was paid by MS
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19:34 < armijn> of course, we had already a UNIX machine in there, not paid for by MS, running FreeBSD...
19:34 < Satg> Hello people :)
19:34 < armijn> since I took over (contract with MS ended) I've added more and more UNIX, mainly FreeBSD
19:35 < owl> hi Satg
19:35 < Satg> Hi owl, how are you ? :)
19:35 < owl> armijn: that's well ;) or rockify the machines ;)
19:36 < owl> Satg: hm. ill. thx. and you?
19:37 < Satg> owl: fine, thanks !!!
19:37 < armijn> owl: no ROCK, we've chosen for RedHat
19:39 < owl> uff.. :)
19:40 < owl> Satg: how comes? ;)
19:44 < blindcod1r> hi hi and rehi
19:44 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder
19:44 < owl> re blindcoder
19:45 * blindcoder sitting in front of PC wrapped up in MegaTokyo-Blanket
19:45 < armijn> heheh
19:46 < owl> blindcoder: hehe. you should hug armijn... he is also cold...
19:46 < armijn> but I'm not ill...
19:46 < armijn> no way, I take my daily dose of vitamins...
19:46 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux
19:46 < owl> armijn: hm. ok. :)
19:47 < Mike1> re
19:47 < owl> re Mike1
19:48 < blindcoder> vitamins? NO WAY! Vitamin-Poisoning is a _horible_ death!!
19:48 * blindcoder will stay at home tomorrow btw.
19:48 < owl> blindcoder: *g* welcome in the club. "gute besserung"
19:49 < blindcoder> owl: thanks, but Matthias is worse
19:49 < armijn> you mean the loser club...
19:49 < armijn> so, how much colder is it there in .de?
19:49 < owl> blindcoder: why what does he heave? the usual flu caused by virus?
19:49 < blindcoder> about -6 Degrees Celsius
19:50 < blindcoder> plus East-Wind that makes it feel like -23 Degrees
19:50 < armijn> ah, same as here...
19:50 < armijn> wussies...
19:50 < bishophome> in .at it has -7 degrees celsius
19:50 < blindcoder> owl: No, a vene broke in his left lung...
19:50 < blindcoder> owl: he's at the hospital
19:50 < owl> blindcoder: oh my god!!!
19:50 < blindcoder> owl: he'll survive it
19:50 < armijn> that doesn't sound too good...
19:51 < qubit_> armijn: !
19:51 -!- qubit_ is now known as hackbard
19:51 < armijn> heh
19:52 < hackbard> how are you?
19:52 < armijn> hackbard: pretty well...bit frozen :)
19:52 < hackbard> yeah, cold here too
19:52 < hackbard> are you on 19c3 with tim?
19:52 < armijn> hackbard: nope. Tim might be there, but not me...
19:52 < owl> hi hackbard
19:52 < hackbard> oh, ic
19:52 < hackbard> hi owl
19:53 < Mike1> sup geilbard
19:53 < hackbard> hi miguel :)
19:53 < hackbard> armijn: too much work?
19:53 < Mike1> hackbard: too much beer
19:53 < armijn> hackbard: yeah, that's one of the reasons
19:53 < armijn> mike1: no, that's not a reason :)
19:53 < hackbard> btw, i remember u said you dont join 18c3 last year too ;)=
19:53 < Mike1> armijn: :P
19:54 < hackbard> Mike1: hehe ;)
19:54 < armijn> will go to the pub next week...there's 10% beer on tap...
19:54 < armijn> yum
19:54 < hackbard> %)
19:55 < armijn> at least it keeps you warm...
19:55 < blindcoder> Okay, I'm leaving again. Gotta get into my nice warm bed :)
19:56 < blindcoder> good night, everyone!
19:56 < armijn> it's not even 8pm...
19:56 < armijn> wuss...
19:57 < Mike1> blindcoder: are you sick?
19:57 < armijn> hackbard: and yeah, too much work to do...must undust sparc :)
19:57 < SMP> argh
19:58 < Mike1> hi SMP
19:58 < owl> moin SMP
19:58 * SMP just thought up a nice use of mysql replication, only to notice that there are Linux boxes involved, which, of course, don't support IPSec
19:59 < hackbard> armijn: doing your exams at the moment?
19:59 < armijn> hackbard: nope
19:59 < hackbard> amrijso what? :)
19:59 < armijn> hackbard: but I need to finish a paper and get working on my MSc project
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20:00 < armijn> and berlin is...well...berlin...
20:00 < SMP> Berlin rocks
20:00 < hackbard> hehe, what does that mean?
20:00 < hackbard> yeah i liek it too!
20:00 < armijn> of course, I didn't see too much of berlin last year...
20:00 < hackbard> well, i am born there :p
20:01 < armijn> and the part that I saw wasn't too nice...
20:01 < armijn> the Alexanderplatz is horrible...
20:01 < armijn> or whatever it's called
20:01 < Mike1> armijn: if you go to 19c3 you will the chance to personally freak owl with constant hugs
20:01 < armijn> mike1: that's true...
20:02 < armijn> and she'll instantly fall in love with me, I'm sure...
20:02 < Mike1> armijn: it will be a 3 day torture :)
20:02 < armijn> so I can add another groupie to my collection...
20:02 < hackbard> lol
20:02 < Mike1> armijn: yes then your torture will begin
20:02 < owl> Mike1: nope. i know where in berlin i can buy a sword ;P
20:02 < Mike1> lol
20:03 < armijn> nah, I'm way too nice to be slain
20:04 < owl> armijn: don't forget: you're man... --> no man is too nice to be slain ;)
20:06 < armijn> nah, you don't have the guts...
20:07 < armijn> at least you don't have the balls to do it
20:07 < owl> *lol* wanna test it? ;)
20:07 < Mike1> *ROTFL*
20:07 < Mike1> owl: has balls???????
20:07 < rolla> was?
20:07 < owl> Mike1: what?
20:07 < Mike1> 0_o!
20:08 < Mike1> <armijn> at least you don't have the balls to do it
20:08 < Mike1> <owl> *lol* wanna test it? ;)
20:08 < owl> i just read the "guts" sentence
20:08 < owl> and no - balls i haven't
20:09 < armijn> heh, would be neat to test *that* aspect...
20:09 < Mike1> armijn: see she realized she couldnt do it
20:09 < armijn> no, that's just me being sexist...
20:09 < Mike1> armijn: hehe
20:09 < owl> armijn: NO!
20:09 < armijn> d'oh :)
20:09 < Mike1> rolla: alive?
20:09 < owl> /kill Mike1, armijn
20:09 < armijn> no way, we're too sweet to kill...
20:09 < Mike1> owl: sorry no mortals can kill us
20:10 < owl> tsss
20:10 < armijn> hey, I'm a mortal
20:10 < Mike1> armijn: too bad for you then :P
20:11 < armijn> but you can only kill me by chopping of my head...
20:11 < armijn> no wait...what did I say?
20:11 < owl> armijn: yes, no problem.
20:11 < armijn> I watched Highlander this weekend so...
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20:11 < tsa> moin
20:11 < owl> armijn: bad influence of tv
20:11 < owl> tsa: tach
20:11 < tsa> tach owlita
20:11 < Mike1> hi tsa
20:12 < tsa> hi Mike1
20:12 < armijn> owl: not TV, DVD
20:12 < owl> armijn: whatever :P
20:12 < Mike1> armijn: thats on tv, in real life your head will come up again
20:12 < armijn> mike1: oh, that's good...
20:12 < armijn> as in, you can just grow a new head?
20:13 < Mike1> armijn: of course
20:13 < armijn> see? TV lies!
20:14 < Mike1> armijn: it lies so mortals can think they have a chance
20:15 < armijn> there should be a hug BoF at 19c3
20:16 < Mike1> :)
20:16 < armijn> ok, time to go outside and freeze to death
20:16 < owl> armijn: haha. have fun.
20:17 < armijn> ok, cu
20:17 * armijn hugs owl
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20:17 < tsa> hehehe
20:17 < owl> *grml* ;P
20:26 < Mike1> Satg: te vas a cojer a owl?
20:32 < Satg> que te pasa
20:35 < owl> www.translate.ru :P
20:36 < Mike1> popula are cr spanish, no translator will tell you what i ment :PP
20:36 < owl> *grml*
20:40 < rolla> Mike
20:41 < Mike1> rolla
20:44 < Mike1> ping fake
20:44 < Mike1> anyone can give me fake's url?
20:47 < owl> www.jaxi.de
20:53 < rolla> jaxi?
20:54 < Mike1> https://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/hacking/devmeeting-02/15.jpg
20:54 < Mike1> :)
20:55 -!- LoriAW is now known as Lorini
20:55 < Mike1> welcome back Lorini
20:55 < rolla> OWL
20:56 < owl> hi rolla
20:56 < rolla> nice picture
20:56 < Lorini> re :)
20:56 < owl> rolla: *GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR* *kill*
20:57 < owl> re Lorini
20:57 < rolla> why?
20:57 < Mike1> lol
20:57 < Lorini> picture?
20:57 < rolla> Nice laptop ;)
20:57 < Mike1> nice sweather
20:57 < rolla> she likes her laptop
20:58 < owl> rolla: that's my gericom...
20:58 < rolla> not your new one?
20:58 < owl> but my asus is - oh god! SWEET :)
20:58 < rolla> that is cool
20:58 < rolla> what are teh specs?
20:58 * Mike1 imagines owl saying "ohh, Godd!"
20:59 < owl> asus l3800c, intel pentium IV mobile 1.8 ghz, 512 mb ram, combo-drive (8x4x4x32x or so), 40 gb HD
20:59 < owl> Mike1: *g* if my asus would be a men, i would marry it :)
21:00 < rolla> very nice laptop
21:00 < rolla> it runs Rock?
21:00 < owl> rolla: rock only.
21:00 < rolla> too cool
21:00 < Mike1> owl xfs?
21:00 < rolla> I have a slow dell laptop that run rock :)
21:00 < owl> ext3...
21:00 < rolla> I just need to get a wireless lan card for it
21:00 < owl> rolla: specs? ;)
21:01 < rolla> PII 450 128M of ram 10G harddisk with just a normal cdrom ;)
21:01 < owl> hehe ;P
21:01 * owl laughs about rolla *vbeg* 
21:02 < owl> my second notebook (the gericom) is 433 mhz (celeron), 192 mb ram, 20 gb hd, normal cdrom... ;P
21:02 < Mike1> owl: specs of your workstation at home?
21:02 < tsa> why that? looks like a good machine..
21:02 < rolla> but my laptop was free ;P
21:03 < Mike1> owl: ?
21:03 < owl> Mike1: amd k6 II 500 mhz, 384 mb ram, abou 150 gb hd, dvd...
21:03 < owl> rolla: *grml*
21:03 * Mike1 laughts at owl
21:04 < tsa> owl: ..and which OS's are installed?
21:05 < Mike1> owl: mine: athlon dual 1.7, 2x120gb hd, dvd, 40x cdwr, 21" monitor, 1024mb ram, 64mb video :)
21:05 < owl> Mike1: :P
21:05 < owl> tsa: on which machine?
21:06 < tsa> owl: all of them
21:06 < owl> tsa: on both notebooks: rock only. on k0y0r0 (the amd): win98 (for my dad), win2kprof (for work, too) and rock
21:06 < Mike1> owl: what do you use for inet conection :P
21:07 < tsa> -owl- VERSION irssi v0.8.5 - running on Linux i686
21:07 < tsa> ...at least..
21:07 < owl> Mike1: windows on the proxy...
21:07 < owl> tsa: nothing to complain, eh? ;P
21:07 -!- [anders] [anders@62.3.122.161] has joined #rocklinux
21:07 < tsa> windows for a proxy server...hahaha
21:08 < Mike1> owl: why dont you use openbsd?
21:08 < Mike1> welcome back [anders]
21:08 < [anders]> lo Mike1
21:08 < tsa> Mike1: owl probably didn't understand the manual ;)
21:08 < owl> Mike1: eumex!!!
21:09 < Mike1> lol
21:13 < rolla> :)
21:15 < rolla> windows sucks as a proxy server
21:16 < owl> full ack. but this fscking telekom just wrote drivers for win...
21:17 < Mike1> owl: suse has support for ur eumex
21:17 < tsa> hahaha
21:17 < Mike1> *
21:17 < Mike1> ggg
21:17 < rolla> ISDN?
21:17 < tsa> owl: go, install suse
21:17 < owl> Mike1: suse.
21:17 < owl> rolla: yep
21:17 < owl> tsa: nope.
21:17 < rolla> suck
21:17 < rolla> ISDN sucks
21:17 < Mike1> owl: i am serious ur eumex will work on suse
21:18 < tsa> rolla: owl sucks (on blindcoder), too
21:18 < owl> Mike1: but i don't wanna use suse.
21:18 < owl> tsa!!!!!!!!!!!
21:18 < tsa> yes?
21:18 < Mike1> owl: ok keep having fun with WINDOWS then
21:18 < owl> Mike1:  i will. until i will move (or so)
21:19 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D93D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
21:19 < Mike1> owl: as you wish my dear
21:19 * tcr hails all
21:19 < Mike1> hi tcr
21:19 < owl> tach tsa
21:20 < owl> tcr i mean
21:20 < tcr> moin
21:20 < Mike1> owl: thinking about tsa again?
21:21 * tcr .. reading
21:22 < owl> Mike1: no!
21:22 < owl> help
21:22 < Mike1> owl: ur little secret is safe with me dont worry
21:22 < owl> *lol
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21:23 < Satg> C U later people !!!
21:24 < Mike1> the chan has just been freaked
21:24 < Mike1> cu satg
21:24 < Satg> cu mike1
21:24 < Mike1> cu satg
21:24 < Satg> cu owl
21:24 < Mike1> *g
21:24 < Satg> TOME
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21:30 < Freak> <Mike1> the chan has just been freaked -- heh
21:31 < owl> hi Freak
21:32 < Mike1> hi Freaky
21:37 -!- bishophome [bishop@h062040148066.kob.cm.kabsi.at] has quit ("Client Exiting")
22:20 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@dhcp024-210-222-139.woh.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux
22:21 < Mike1> hi h0h0
22:21 < h0h0> `lo Mike1
22:21 < owl> hi h0h0
22:21 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-2.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux
22:21 < h0h0> `lo owl
22:21 < LocalHero> Hi all :)
22:21 < LocalHero> Whazzup
22:22 < Mike1> hi there LocalHero
22:22 < owl> hi LocalHero
22:22 < LocalHero> Arrgh, im in trubble. Out of nowhere i have now trubble with both samba and netatalk :(
22:22 < LocalHero> I just removed the openssl package and replaced it with my own compiled one :(
22:23 < LocalHero> And now when i run ./configure in samba i get this
22:23 < LocalHero> checking for kernel share modes... no
22:23 < LocalHero> checking for IRIX kernel oplock type definitions... no
22:23 < LocalHero> checking for irix specific capabilities... no
22:23 < LocalHero> checking for int16 typedef included by rpc/rpc.h... no
22:23 < LocalHero> checking for uint16 typedef included by rpc/rpc.h... no
22:23 < Mike1> ..?
22:23 < LocalHero> checking for int32 typedef included by rpc/rpc.h... no
22:23 < LocalHero> checking for uint32 typedef included by rpc/rpc.h... no
22:23 < LocalHero> checking for conflicting AUTH_ERROR define in rpc/rpc.h... no
22:23 < LocalHero> checking for test routines... configure: error: cant find test code. Aborting config
22:24 < LocalHero> What does it mean, checking for test routines... configure errer?
22:24 < tcr> does anyone here run a version of bash < 2.05b?
22:25 < LocalHero> hmm version 2.05b.0(1)-release
22:25 < tsa> bash 2.05a 1.7.0-DEV-200201041549
22:43 < esden> hi all
22:43 < Mike1> hi esden
22:43 < tcr> LocalHero: what about taking a look into the configure script?
22:43 < tcr> tsa: ah, fine. could test something for me please?
22:44 < LocalHero> tcr, well, the configure script is like chines to me
22:44 < tsa> tcr: sure
22:44 < owl> hi esden
22:44 < tsa> moin esden
22:45 < tsa> esden: du kommst guenstig - owl wollte grade ihre verlobung mit blindcoder bekanntgeben.. *grins*
22:45 < owl> tsa: schnabel!
22:45 < owl> (ich wollte des doch noch geheimhalten ;PPPP)
22:46 < tcr> LocalHero: well, you shouldnt bother with the whole script. just take a look what is responsible for the error (could mostly be tracked down to one command that fails)
22:46 < esden> tsa: schoen
22:48 < tcr> tsa: cd /tmp
22:48 < tcr> touch "a_small@test"
22:48 < tcr> touch "a_small_second_test"
22:48 < tcr> cat a_small@[tab][tab]
22:49 < tsa> huch
22:49 < tcr> *g*
22:49 < tcr> ok. so the bug wasnt introdocued in 2.05b
22:49 < tsa> ich sehe hostnames aus /etc/hosts..
22:50 < tcr> yes, that's actually intended this way
22:50 < tcr> and cat "a_small@[tab][tab]" works
22:50 < LocalHero> hmm, oki
22:50 < LocalHero> this is the code that breaks it
22:50 < LocalHero> else
22:50 < LocalHero>   echo "configure: failed program was:" >&5
22:50 < LocalHero>   cat conftest.$ac_ext >&5
22:50 < LocalHero>   rm -fr conftest*
22:50 < LocalHero>   { echo "configure: error: cant find test code. Aborting config" 1>&2; exit 1; }
22:50 < LocalHero> fi
22:51 < tcr> but i think bash shouldnt just look in /etc/hosts up when pressing double tab after a @, it should additionally look up for possibly available filenames
22:52 < tsa> ack
22:53 < tcr> LocalHero: bravo! now look what makes the if fail
22:53 < LocalHero> ahha, this is the code that failes. Its what causes the else statement to run
22:53 < LocalHero> if { (eval echo configure:10703: \"$ac_link\") 1>&5; (eval $ac_link) 2>&5; } && test -s conftest${ac_exeext} && (./conftest; exit) 2>/dev/null
22:53 < tcr> *g*
22:55 < tcr> now you are to look up what ac_link and ac_exeext contains (or should contain) at that place
22:55 < esden> tsa: when will the marry ?
22:57 < owl> never
22:57 < esden> why owl ... blindcoder is a sweet guy
22:57 < owl> *lol
22:58 < owl> esden: not for me.
22:58 < esden> owl ... you shouldn't be so selective ...
22:59 < owl> esden: of course i am and will be. :P
23:00 < esden> *seufz*
23:01 < owl> esden: hm? why have _you_ problems with this fact?
23:01 < Mike1> ouch
23:02 < tsa> esden: i've hears something they will bring free weed and drinks for all of us to 19c3, so i guess they have something special in mind..
23:02 < tsa> *gg*
23:02 < esden> tsa: who they ?
23:03 < tsa> esden: owl and blindcoder. of course.
23:03 < esden> ahh cool
23:03 < owl> :P
23:04 < tsa> (also possible owl just plans to kill me then..who knows)
23:04 < esden> hehe ... the dealer couple ... blindcoder and owl ;-)
23:04 < owl> tsa: full ack
23:04 < tsa> esden: hehe ;)
23:05 < owl> tsa: but i don't plan to kill only you.... also esden should fear me... :P
23:05 < LocalHero> Dahh, i reinstalled openssl package and now it works :(
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23:12 < esden> LocalHero: 1.7 ?
23:26 < LocalHero> esden 1.5
23:26 < esden> aha .. ok
23:32 < LocalHero> esden, are there any working isos for 1.7 yet?
23:33 < esden> yes ... private ones ...
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23:39 < Mike1> bye all
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23:43 < LocalHero> oki, cya all
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23:47 * tsa considers burning something
23:47 < tsa> it's fscking cold
23:47 < esden> tsa: burn burn burn *sing*
23:47 -!- chrisime_ is now known as chriZzz
23:47 < tsa> hehehe
23:47 < esden> ;-)
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