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--- Log opened Sun Dec 15 00:00:58 2002 --- Day changed Sun Dec 15 2002 00:41 < owl> gn8 00:47 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813CA7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 01:03 -!- j4rg0n [~burgundy@d141h36.resnet.uconn.edu] has joined #rocklinux 01:07 -!- j4rg0n [~burgundy@d141h36.resnet.uconn.edu] has left #rocklinux () 01:46 -!- temr [~pm@pD958BF77.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 01:53 -!- chrisime_ [~chrisime@mnch-d9ba4afe.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:55 -!- chrisime_ [~chrisime@mnch-d9ba4afe.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit (Client Quit) 02:10 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@mnch-d9ba4cbf.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:11 < tsa> n8 03:12 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082BB6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 03:14 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc1-stoc3-4-cust247.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #rocklinux 04:06 -!- Freak [freak@pD9530678.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client excited") 04:10 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc1-stoc3-4-cust247.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:12 < dennis> gn8... 04:53 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-170-84.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:02 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-201-39.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05:18 -!- kasc [~shaman@p5090A450.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:21 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc1-stoc3-4-cust247.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #rocklinux 05:22 -!- kasc [~shaman@p5090B4FE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 06:09 < rolla_> re all 06:13 < dennis> re 06:54 -!- dennis [~dennis@pD9EB764B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 08:27 -!- Netsplit anthony.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: SMP 08:27 -!- Netsplit over, joins: SMP 08:28 -!- SMP_ [stefanp@world.cabal1.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:28 -!- SMP [stefanp@world.cabal1.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:52 -!- Mike1 [mike@rocklinux.de] has joined #rocklinux 09:52 < Mike1> moin all 10:04 -!- Mike1 [mike@rocklinux.de] has quit ("leaving") 10:06 -!- temr [~pm@pD9E33427.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:06 < temr> tag 12:23 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B51b1.pppool.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:24 -!- owl [~mail-spam@otdial-212-144-048-249.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:24 < owl> re and off again. gn8 12:29 < esden> morgen 12:46 -!- Freak [freak@p50839C4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:07 -!- martin__ [~martin@pD9E7A17D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:07 < martin__> hi 13:28 -!- martin__ [~martin@pD9E7A17D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 13:37 -!- angel|of|chaos [AngelofCha@dialin-145-254-159-185.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:38 -!- angel|of|chaos [AngelofCha@dialin-145-254-159-185.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Client Quit) 13:52 -!- martin__ [~martin@pD9E7A17D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:58 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49E98.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:59 * tcr hails all 14:12 -!- martin__ [~martin@pD9E7A17D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 14:56 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-175-129.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:56 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-170-84.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:58 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49E98.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 14:59 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812F4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:36 < owl> re 16:23 < Freak> lilo is ein absolut abstoßender kerl.. boah hab ich einen hass auf den.. 16:25 < owl> hm? 16:26 < Freak> ach erst dass er unseren chan hier geschlossen hat, vermutlich weil "oftc" im topic stand und jetzt kommt er in den gerade erneut umgezogenen windowmaker-chan rein: 16:26 < Freak> --> lilo (levin@elided.info) has joined #windowmaker 16:26 < Freak> * lilo looks in 16:26 < Freak> <lilo> hmmm, you guys moved again?? :) 16:26 < Freak> <-- lilo (levin@elided.info) has left #windowmaker 16:26 < tcr> ... du hast probleme ... 16:27 < Freak> und in seinem ?=)(//&%$§"! netzwerk macht die FSF den offiziellen chan auf.. 16:27 < Freak> ich hasse lilo. ich hasse freenode. 16:27 < owl> Freak: warum bist du dann in freenode? 16:28 < tcr> meinetwegen antürlich 16:28 < Freak> mal ganz ehrlich: weil es kaum einer mitkriegt, was fürn arsch er gegenüber einzelnen ist. 16:28 < owl> *g* 16:28 < Freak> und deshalb alle hier rumhängen 16:28 < tcr> weißt du wie egal mir das ist 16:29 < Freak> ich mein ich kann auf alles verzichten, aber ich mach #rock 16:29 < tcr> s,mach,g, 16:29 < tcr> mag 16:29 < owl> Freak: dann setze lilo doch auch ignore. wo ist des problem? 16:29 < Freak> dass freenode sein netzwerk is 16:30 < owl> na und? 16:30 < Freak> es sollte assnet heissen 16:30 < owl> heh! jetzt mach' ma nen punkt" 16:30 < owl> ! 16:31 < Freak> ich sag ja es merkt keiner.. 16:31 < Freak> keiner stimmt auch nicht, es gibt viele, die in andere networks umgezogen sind 16:31 < Freak> naja vermutlich wird's zeit, fn endlich zu verlassen.. 16:32 < owl> bla blubb 16:33 -!- Freak [freak@p50839C4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("I finally leave this fscked network. cu on irc.oftc.net") 16:33 < owl> *ouch* 16:37 < SMP_> hm 16:37 < SMP_> uh? 16:37 -!- SMP_ is now known as SMP 16:38 < owl> hi SMP 16:38 < SMP> *relief* 16:39 < owl> hm? 16:42 < SMP> oh those Aussie idiots think that I stole their bot's nick. they have it take the nick every chance they get - and I kill it every time 16:42 < SMP> minor annoyance 16:44 < owl> urgs. 16:44 < owl> *yawn* i'm sleeping again. gn8. bbl 16:44 < SMP> huh. bye .. 16:49 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has joined #rocklinux 16:56 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9525DC2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:56 < tsa> moin 16:58 < tsa> hm.. 16:58 < tsa> anyone tried a 1.7 build ni the last days? 16:58 < tsa> s,ni,in, 16:59 < tcr> i think dennis did so 17:00 < tsa> looks like aterrible mess to me, i can't even build glibc in stage 0.. 17:01 < tcr> use 1.5 then :P 17:01 < tsa> hehe 17:02 < snyke> hmm 17:02 < snyke> moo 17:04 < owl> *grml* 17:04 < owl> re 17:04 < owl> esden tried a 1.7 build on alpha, too 17:05 < owl> yesterday afaik 17:06 < tsa> hm.. 17:06 < tsa> glibc sucks, it seems. 17:09 < owl> *argh* 17:09 < owl> wtf is the rock-ia32-i686-1.5.20-base+opt.iso (built ext, too) over 880 mb large?!! 17:10 < tsa> hm.. 17:10 < owl> ext-built are included in this iso, too, aren't they? 17:11 < owl> (but shouldn't be included there, yeah?) 17:38 -!- Lorini [~Lorini@pD9506DA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:39 < owl> hi Lorini 17:39 < Lorini> hi owl 17:43 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD9048569.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #RockLinux 17:47 < Lorini> hey du :) 17:47 < capchaos> hey ihr 18:02 -!- capchaos is now known as capafk 18:12 -!- Lorini is now known as LoriAW 18:27 < rolla_> re 18:28 < owl> hi rolla_ 18:28 < rolla_> :) 18:28 < owl> rolla_: how r u ? 18:28 < rolla_> gut watching fussball :) 18:29 < owl> *lol* 18:29 < owl> have fun then 18:29 < rolla_> yeah I know you hate fussball 18:30 -!- dennis [~dennis@pD950E138.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:30 < dennis> hi 18:32 -!- capafk is now known as capchaos 18:36 < owl> hi 18:38 < esden> hi all 18:38 < dennis> hi esden 18:38 < owl> hi esden 18:38 < esden> hi owl 18:39 < esden> owl: "[17:04] < owl> esden tried a 1.7 build on alpha, too" ??? 18:39 < esden> ahh ... ok 18:39 < owl> tsa wanted to know if someone tried a built 18:39 < esden> now I get the context 18:39 < owl> k. 18:40 < esden> owl: alpha is something really different then intel ... OFYI 18:40 < owl> yep, but you need the script too, yeah? 18:40 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1C5B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:41 < esden> owl: currently the build fails in stage 1 with linux24 18:41 < owl> k. 18:47 < tsa> hi esden 18:48 < tsa> esden: i still can't build glibc in stage 0 - tried both cross and non-cross 18:48 < tsa> (x86)# 18:49 < esden> tsa: hmm .. glibc built on alpha without problems (cross) ... and fake built it on x86 also .. without any problems 18:49 < tsa> hm...strange 18:50 < tsa> i'm using gcc3 only on my system, btw...perhaps that might be the source of the error.. 18:50 < esden> no ... I built it with gcc3 18:50 < esden> fake too 18:50 < tsa> hm.. 18:50 < tsa> guess i don't have any other ideas, then 18:54 * tsa updating 18:58 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4F837.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:58 < tsa> hi blindcod 18:58 < tsa> 1r 18:59 < SMP> aaargh 18:59 < SMP> ROCK Install Shell> inst 18:59 < SMP> Segmentation fault (core dumped) 19:00 < tsa> hmm.. 19:03 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812F4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("brb") 19:05 < tsa> esden: i'll start a new build, then. no cross-build, no cross-cc. let's see what happens.. 19:12 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p5080141B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:12 < dennis> is there a iso image of 1.7 available? 19:17 < tsa> afaik not 19:17 < tsa> you're free to create your own one - if you get this fscking beast to build.. 19:17 < tsa> *sigh* 19:17 * tsa just started a new build.. 19:19 < tsa> == 19:19:10 =[0]=> Building base/glibc [2.3.1 1.7-snapshot]. 19:19 < tsa> uh-uh.. 19:20 < tsa> GRR 19:20 < tsa> esden: awake? 19:22 < tsa> !> ../config.h:3:3: #error "glibc cannot be compiled without optimizat .. 19:22 < tsa> *ARGH* 19:27 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("leaving") 19:29 < owl> *ARGH* 19:29 < owl> i hate this fscking isdn! and proxy! *grml* 19:30 * capchaos nods 19:31 < owl> capchaos: hm? 19:31 < rolla_> ja 19:33 < capchaos> owl: ISDN gets me sick in Kernel 2.5.x 19:34 < owl> capchaos: why? 19:34 < capchaos> owl: Because it's broken most of the time... 19:34 < owl> urgs. 19:35 < owl> someone still has some (2 or 3) harddisks which are smaller than 10 GB? (and sells those HDs) 19:36 < capchaos> owl: Me has a 4 GB hd. 19:36 < capchaos> owl: 100 EUR would be a good start :) 19:36 < owl> 100 euro? you're kidding :P 19:37 < capchaos> Yes. 50 EUR is more realistic ;) 19:49 < tsa> glibc cannot be compiled without optimization 19:49 < tsa> ldfhgjkdfgdfjhgjkdh!!!! 19:49 < owl> tsa: dann fix es 19:57 < kasc> moin ihr 19:57 < kasc> 's 19:57 < tsa> hi kasc 19:57 < owl> hi kasc 19:59 < owl> *gr* i hate ebay 19:59 < owl> which *@*.de adress does it accept? 20:01 < capchaos> owl ? 20:01 < owl> capchaos: a friend of mine sells his HDs at ebay... 20:02 < owl> but if i want to register i seem to must own a owl@microsoft.com address or so... 20:02 < capchaos> owl: hehe 20:02 < capchaos> owl: Why, what does it say? 20:03 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 20:03 < capchaos> re blindcoder 20:03 < owl> hi blindcoder 20:03 < blindcoder> debian sucks 20:03 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 20:03 < capchaos> blindcoder: ack 20:03 < owl> capchaos: it says "wrong email-address" (if i use gmx.net or web.de) 20:04 < blindcoder> I just wanted to boot a Debian install CD on a SUN SparcStation 20... and it asked for the Root-NFS-Server... 20:04 < owl> urgs 20:04 < blindcoder> owl: yes, they want you to use a no-freemailer 20:04 < owl> fscking ebay! 20:04 < owl> blindcoder: oh great. damn idiots at ebay 20:04 < blindcoder> you could use your homeip.net mail-address 20:04 < blindcoder> or your bingo-address 20:05 < owl> yes. and i could get 1000 spam-mails / hour 20:05 < blindcoder> well... 20:05 < owl> still haven't a bingo-adress 20:05 < blindcoder> I get two about every other day 20:05 < owl> that's a joke? 20:05 < blindcoder> but it can be easuly .procmail'ed 20:05 < owl> @ blindcoder 20:05 < rolla_> ja 20:05 < blindcoder> owl: well... from ebay, that is 20:06 * rolla_ need to go build his alpha 20:06 < blindcoder> owl: anything else... unno... procmail filters it all out, so I can't really say :) 20:07 < owl> hm. 20:07 * owl going to buy a sword to kill those fscking ebay-idiots 20:07 < tsa> ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL 20:08 < blindcoder> tsa: r u dead now? 20:08 < blindcoder> tsa: can I get your Hardware? 20:08 < tsa> as it seems, it's possible to get rid of all glibc problems by just "export CFLAGS= -O3" .. 20:08 < tsa> i hate glibc 20:08 < blindcoder> hmm...haven't had any since installing 1.7 with glibc 2.3.1 20:09 < blindcoder> 1,050.00 $ 20:10 < blindcoder> who pays that much for a pencil-drowing?? 20:10 < blindcoder> Okay, it's from Piro, but still... 20:12 < owl> SCH...!!! 20:12 < blindcoder> owl: ? 20:12 < owl> fscking computer.. something is wrong with ko0y0r0... seems the fskcing windows 20:13 < owl> -o 20:14 < capchaos> owl: Uninstalling Windows will help, I promise. 20:14 < owl> capchaos: but i need the fscking win2k stuff 20:15 < capchaos> owl: It owns you. 20:16 < owl> capchaos: nope. not me. but my company 20:16 < capchaos> owl: Oh... 20:35 < SMP> damnit 20:36 * SMP can't get Xvnc to use a sensible windowmanager 20:39 < SMP> (rewriting ~/.vnc/xstartup helps, but I shouldn't have to)) 20:41 -!- VeKTeReX [~vekterex@adsl-61-182-175.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:43 < SMP> nautilus is such a crap. I could cry 20:44 < SMP> rotfl 20:44 < SMP> it displays web-pages as HTML source 20:45 < SMP> gee, folks. can we please delay 1.6.0 for another 6 months and get the basics to work 20:46 < capchaos> or remove nautilus *g* 20:46 < owl> SMP: u r working with 1.5? 20:46 < tsa> hehe 20:47 < tsa> SMP: well, i wouldn't recommend running gnome2 stuff at all... 20:48 < SMP> capchaos: I promised myself I could find a dozen bugs within the first 15 minutes I used it 20:48 < SMP> I always do if I try an 1.5 release 20:48 < capchaos> SMP: Did you find'em? 20:50 < SMP> tsa: it isn't even gnome2 20:50 < SMP> capchaos: didn't count 20:51 < tsa> !> "solar87", line 385: can't determine time zone abbreviation to use .. 20:51 < tsa> anyone knows this from glibc? 20:58 < tsa> hm...commented out 21:00 -!- owl [~mail-spam@otdial-212-144-048-249.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("brb. changing ISP") 21:03 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5b24.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:03 < owl> re 21:04 < capchaos> re owl 21:20 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:06 < temr> n8 22:06 -!- temr [~pm@pD9E33427.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("z") 22:11 -!- VeKTeReX [~vekterex@adsl-61-182-175.mia.bellsouth.net] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 22:20 < blindcoder> n8 everyone 22:22 < owl> gn8 blindcoder 22:30 < tsa> aah....nice 22:30 < tsa> build making progress 22:38 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD9048569.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #RockLinux () 22:42 -!- tsa_ [~tsa@pD952529B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:42 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9525DC2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: tsa_!~tsa@pD952529B.dip.t-dialin.net))) 22:42 -!- tsa_ is now known as tsa 22:43 < tsa> re. 22:46 < esden> hi all 22:46 < owl> hi esden 22:49 < fake> morgen 22:49 < owl> guten _abend_ fake ;) 22:51 < tsa> fake: du hast in letzter zeit nen 1.7-build gemacht? 22:52 < fake> tsa: ack. 22:52 < tsa> groessere probleme irgendwo? 22:53 < fake> hab nur base+ia32+x11 gebaut 22:53 < fake> n'paar (fuer mich) unrelevante sachen haben nicht gebaut 22:53 < fake> im bootdisk-target hat nur minicom rumgezickt 22:53 < tsa> hm...erstaunlich 22:53 < tsa> ich hab hier schon die glibc anpatchen muessen.. 22:53 < fake> der default-target is pentium-optimiert, die bootdisk generic 22:54 < tsa> pentium3 22:54 < fake> tsa: auf was baust du? 22:54 < tsa> x86 22:54 < tsa> p3 22:54 < tsa> kein cross, kein pseudo-cross 22:54 < fake> tsa: da hab ich einen gemacht, 2002-11-16 oder so 22:54 < fake> warum kein pseudo-cross? 22:54 < fake> is doch jetz default... 22:54 < rolla_> re fake 22:54 < tsa> wozu brauch ich pseudo-cross? 22:55 < fake> tsa: it is built against the target-system-glibc-headers 22:55 < fake> for example ;) 22:55 < fake> rolla_: hi! 22:55 < esden> tsa baust du auf 1.5 oder auf 1.7 ? 22:55 < esden> hi rolla_ ! 22:56 < rolla_> I have my two alpha's up now :) 22:56 < tsa> esden: ich baue 1.7 auf irgendwas, was zwischen 1.4.0 und 1.7 ist 22:56 < rolla_> time to turn them into DNS servers :) 22:56 < fake> tsa: ich baue auf 1.7-pentium3 2002-11-26 22:56 < fake> err -16 22:56 < fake> glaube ich 22:56 < fake> rolla_: with rock on 'em? 22:56 < tsa> !> configure: error: newly created file is older than distributed files! 22:56 < tsa> !> Check your system clock 22:56 < tsa> *nerv* 22:56 < rolla_> yeah like rock loads on a alpha 22:57 < rolla_> :( 22:57 < fake> rolla_: kick esden *g* 22:57 < rolla_> I would if I could 22:57 * fake is within kick-range 22:57 < fake> (he is sitting behind me ;) 22:57 < tsa> fake: ich versuche erstmal, ohne *cross auszukommen 22:57 < rolla_> do it for me :) 22:57 < fake> tsa: probier es einfach mal nur mit pseuo-cross an... hast du nen snapshot oder cvs ? 22:57 < esden> tsa: vielleicht liegt es daran 22:57 < fake> rolla_: okay 22:58 < tsa> fake: cvs von heute 22:58 < esden> rolla_: I am currently working on the alpha build 22:58 < fake> rolla_: finished. 22:58 < rolla_> if he has a working iso I will load ir 22:58 < rolla_> s/ir/it/ 22:58 < tsa> + einige patches von der liste, + nen bisschen eigenes gebastel 22:58 < esden> rolla_: thank you for the kick ... 22:58 < esden> >_< 22:58 < rolla_> :) 22:58 < fake> tsa: you will be 19c3? 22:58 < esden> it hurts ! 22:58 < tsa> fake: yes, sure 22:58 < rolla_> I have a third alpha which to test rock on 22:58 < fake> tsa: kuhl *g* 22:59 < esden> rolla_: what kind of alpha machines do you have ? 22:59 < rolla_> to alcor alpha station 500's 22:59 < esden> hmm ... 77 mhz faster then mine ... 23:00 < fake> mine -i 77mhz.gem 23:00 < rolla_> and one I am not sure about 23:00 < rolla_> yeah they are 333mhz ev5 :) 23:00 < esden> rolla_: we could try a cluster build on that alpha's 23:00 < esden> when I get around the current problems I have 23:00 < rolla_> they are all redhat right now 23:00 < fake> rathead 23:01 < esden> if you come by with them on 19c3 ;-) 23:01 < rolla_> that would be hard :) 23:01 < rolla_> as I am in the US :) 23:01 < esden> rolla_: I had debian on my alpha at the beginning ... it was a mess >_< 23:01 < rolla_> the other box is a 266 23:02 < rolla_> yeah I have had redhat on them since the begining 23:02 < esden> rolla_: yes I know that you are from us ... 23:02 < fake> CIFS? 23:02 < fake> *g* 23:02 < rolla_> it would be hard to drop by 19c3 no? 23:02 < fake> rolla_: nope. jump into the plane and we'll fetch you from berlin airport 23:02 < rolla_> :) 23:02 < fake> ;) 23:03 < esden> fake: ack 23:03 < rolla_> that would be nice but I think the wife would kill me 23:03 < rolla_> but thanks 23:03 < fake> there is a chamber to lock them in there 23:04 < fake> for "haecksen" 23:04 < fake> (that's a german word game, hexen is articulated the same way, and means witches) 23:04 < fake> whereas haecksen is the female form of "hacker" 23:05 < esden> https://www.ccc.de/congress/2002/images/maps/19C3-raumplan-transparent.png 23:05 < fake> owl will occupy that room ... *g* 23:05 < rolla_> :) 23:06 < esden> rolla_: we have to protect aurselves somehow ;-) 23:06 < rolla_> ha ha 23:07 < owl> fake: ??? 23:07 < rolla_> owl 23:08 < owl> fake: why should i occupy the room? 23:10 < rolla_> you are a female hacker 23:10 < tsa> sure about that? 23:10 < huebi_> moin 23:10 < rolla_> no I can't really back that statment up 23:10 -!- huebi_ is now known as huebi 23:10 < fake> is a celeron p3 or p2? 23:10 < owl> hi huebi 23:10 < fake> how to find that out? 23:10 < huebi> fake: depends 23:11 < fake> cpu family : ? 23:11 < rolla_> it could be either I think 23:11 < fake> hi huebi, btw ;) 23:11 < fake> which cpu-family means what? 23:11 < huebi> Mendocino = 66MHz FSB = PII 23:12 < huebi> Tualin = 100MHz = PIII (600MHY and more) 23:13 < tsa> !> configure: error: newly created file is older than distributed files! 23:13 < tsa> !> Check your system clock 23:14 < tsa> *GRRRR* 23:14 * huebi is very busy with work - I need to make an offer to a huge bank here in germany till tomorrow noon. Nice project. Much PHP programming needed. 23:14 < fake> /proc/cpuinfo says Pentium III 23:14 < tsa> huebi: !!! 23:14 < fake> so i'll go for another P3 build 23:14 < huebi> model name : Celeron (Mendocino) 23:14 < huebi> stepping : 5 23:14 < huebi> cpu MHz : 467.734 23:14 < tsa> moin 23:14 < huebi> hi tsa 23:14 < tsa> huebi: lange nicht gesehen hier.. 23:15 < fake> yeah, my stepping is 6 23:15 < huebi> tsa: rechnungen werden all diese Woch noch geschrieben. 23:15 < tsa> huebi: hehe..ok ;) 23:15 < huebi> fake: flood comming.... 23:15 < fake> *duck* 23:15 < huebi> processor : 0 23:15 < huebi> vendor_id : GenuineIntel 23:15 < huebi> cpu family : 6 23:15 < huebi> model : 6 23:15 < huebi> model name : Celeron (Mendocino) 23:15 < huebi> stepping : 5 23:15 < huebi> cpu MHz : 467.734 23:15 < huebi> cache size : 128 KB 23:15 < huebi> fdiv_bug : no 23:15 < huebi> hlt_bug : no 23:15 < huebi> f00f_bug : no 23:16 < huebi> coma_bug : no 23:16 < huebi> fpu : yes 23:16 < huebi> fpu_exception : yes 23:16 < huebi> cpuid level : 2 23:16 < huebi> wp : yes 23:16 < huebi> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr 23:16 < huebi> bogomips : 933.88 23:16 < huebi> socket 370 23:16 < fake> urgh. ugly thing ;)) 23:17 < fake> huebi: thanks! 23:18 * fake will lsd 23:19 < fake> oerks 23:19 < fake> (that was apparantely only a joke) 23:19 < esden> hi huebi 23:19 < esden> huebi: and have you tested the lcd patch ? *nerv* 23:20 < huebi> esden: hi 23:20 < esden> huebi: I will have the cheetah for you on 19c3 23:20 < esden> after 19c3 you can have it ... 23:20 < huebi> esden: To kick IBM and CA out of the bussiness was more urgent. 23:21 < huebi> esden: great :)))) 23:21 < esden> huebi: ok :-( 23:24 < aszlig> rehi 23:24 < aszlig> esden: do you want to start a big flamewar? 23:25 < esden> aszlig: why ? 23:25 < esden> where ? 23:25 < huebi> aszlig: what's going on? 23:25 < esden> what have I said wrong ? *panic* 23:25 < aszlig> nope *g* 23:26 * -> esden is not willing to start a flamewar ... 23:26 * aszlig has found a irc-server filled with lusers! 23:26 * -> esden is in a too good mood 23:26 * aszlig too :) 23:26 < esden> aszlig: show me ;-) 23:26 < esden> aszlig: you mean ircnet ? 23:26 * aszlig is in a good mood, too, so i want to start a biig flamewar :) 23:26 < esden> ;-) 23:26 < aszlig> nope.. 23:27 < aszlig> irc.winbeta.org:6667 -> #winbeta 23:27 < esden> or quakenet ? 23:27 < aszlig> i said _ircserver_ *gg* 23:27 * aszlig owns the #linux channel *gg* 23:28 < esden> aszlig: [23:27] -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.winbeta.org port 6667 (Connection refused) 23:28 < aszlig> oh.. 23:28 < esden> aszlig: kline ? 23:28 < aszlig> that server has a very bad configured nameserver 23:29 < aszlig> try 66.252.5.223 23:30 < tsa> hm.. 23:31 < tsa> hat mal irgendwer hier probleme mit binutils gehabt wegen angeblich falsch laufender system clock? 23:34 < huebi> tsa: Noe. 23:34 < tsa> will sich hier nicht bauen lassen (1.7-dev, stage 2) 23:37 < tsa> hm.. 23:37 < tsa> letzter ausweg - reboot 23:37 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD952529B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 23:38 -!- lkthomas [lkthomas@nat20-88.mpoweredpc.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:38 < lkthomas> hey all 23:39 < lkthomas> does anyone have a detail manual to tell me how could I install rocklinux from scratch ? 23:40 < huebi> lkthomas: witch version 23:41 < owl> hi lkthomas 23:41 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082B481.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:42 < tsa> re 23:42 < aszlig> esden: that one is too boring :( 23:42 < esden> aszlig: yo 23:43 < aszlig> esden: that lusers are to stupid to be kiddies 23:43 < esden> lkthomas: which one ? 1.7 or 1.5 23:43 < lkthomas> huebi: I don't know 23:43 < lkthomas> well, I just want to try rocklinux 23:43 < lkthomas> I think I am going to use a stable one 23:43 < lkthomas> does 1.7 stable ? 23:43 < huebi> lkthomas: is it a IDE only PC? 23:44 < esden> then use 1.5 it is the "stable" one 23:44 < lkthomas> huebi: what do you mean ? 23:44 < lkthomas> esden: well, at least it would give out error, I do use freebsd-5.0 :) 23:44 < huebi> lkthomas: no SCSI inside 23:44 < lkthomas> huebi: no, no scsi , I want to install it on my laptop 23:46 < huebi> lkthomas: ftp://stud.fbi.fh-darmstadt.de/pub/linux/rocklinux/iso-images/rock-ia32-i586-base+opt-1.5.20.iso 23:46 < lkthomas> actually, it's "i686" :) 23:46 < lkthomas> PIII-1G 23:46 < owl> huebi: is the i686 option working again? 23:47 < lkthomas> huebi: so can I rebuild the whole base after install it as iso ? 23:48 < huebi> lkthomas: ftp://stud.fbi.fh-darmstadt.de/pub/linux/rocklinux/iso-images/rock-ia32-i686-base+opt-1.5.20.iso 23:48 < huebi> lkthomas: of course you can. 23:48 < esden> it would be a nice thing to try compiling rock on freebsd 23:48 < lkthomas> so I would know how to do after bootup ? 23:48 < esden> ;-) 23:49 < lkthomas> LOL, nah 23:49 < esden> lkthomas: why ... it wold be fun ! 23:49 < lkthomas> does it have commandline script interface to drive me install rocklinux ? 23:50 < huebi> lkthomas: The Online documentation while installing is fairly incomplete. 23:50 < lkthomas> crap 23:50 < lkthomas> well, I mean, is it have a script to help me install or I need to manually to control it ? 23:50 < esden> lkthomas: but the install is really straight forward 23:50 < esden> lkthomas: boot from the cd 23:51 < esden> 2) fdisk /dev/discs/disc0/disc 23:51 < esden> and create root partition and swap partition 23:51 < esden> mount the root partition under /trg 23:51 < lkthomas> I don't know how to use fdisk, how about cfdisk ? 23:51 * lkthomas never use fdisk 23:51 < esden> lkthomas: fdisk is really easy 23:52 < lkthomas> but I never use it before 23:52 < lkthomas> I don't want to calculate the sector and section 23:52 < esden> lkthomas: for everything is some time the first time 23:52 < esden> lkthomas: you do not need to ... fdisk of linux ist not the fdisk of freebsd ;-) 23:52 < lkthomas> esden: I don't want to mess up my XP also 23:53 < lkthomas> freebsd don't use cfdisk and fdisk 23:53 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1C5B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 23:53 < esden> lkthomas: wait a moment 23:53 < lkthomas> K 23:55 < tsa> SDFJSDFSDFSDF!° 23:55 < tsa> *ARGH* 23:55 < esden> tsa: ? 23:55 * tsa removing build tree 23:56 < huebi> tsa: Alles gut macht der Reboot! 23:56 < lkthomas> esden: ? 23:56 < tsa> ..in diesem fall leider nicht, huebi 23:56 < tsa> esden: stage2, erstes package - binutils 23:56 < tsa> meckert ueber angeblich falschgehende system clock 23:56 < esden> tsa: o_O 23:56 < esden> lkthomas: mom 23:58 < tsa> esden: ich hab alles versucht...ntpd ttogemacht, datum zurueckgesetzt, komplette chroot getouched, .. 23:58 < tsa> hat alles nix gebracht 23:58 < esden> lkthomas: look at https://www.esden.net/rocklinux/INSTALL if it is enough info for you ... 23:59 < esden> try to use it while trying to install rock 23:59 < tsa> ..und die glibc 2.3.1 muss ich an einer stelle selber anpatchen 23:59 < esden> if it you get problems you can still ask here for help --- Log closed Mon Dec 16 00:00:09 2002