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--- Log opened Tue Dec 17 00:00:33 2002 --- Day changed Tue Dec 17 2002 00:13 < th> has anyone in here experience with using untrusted NFS space? (some way of encryption) 00:14 < tsa> nope. 00:15 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc1-stoc3-4-cust247.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:16 < esden> ok burning src cd ... 00:19 < sjefen> say wasn't this a math project? 00:19 < sjefen> work chan. 00:28 < esden> sjefen: ? 00:28 < sjefen> yeah? 00:30 < sjefen> where are these famous boot disks? 00:33 < esden> which boot disks do you mean ? 00:33 < sjefen> found em' :) 00:37 < sjefen> I've got to install some new hardware. 00:37 < sjefen> some real high end stuff... 00:37 < sjefen> Have to reboot... 00:37 < sjefen> a FLOPPY DRIVE! 00:37 < sjefen> *difficult* 00:37 -!- sjefen [~sjefen@ti122110a080-0313.bb.online.no] has quit ("wish me luck") 00:38 * owl kills curl again 00:41 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50816DC6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 00:43 < th> how to get sources out of a source-rpm? 00:44 < tsa> hm..install the src.rpm? 00:44 -!- sjefen [~sjefen@ti122110a080-0313.bb.online.no] has joined #rocklinux 00:44 < tsa> should give you the sources, patches and a .spec 00:44 < th> tsa: i really don't want to install a rpm 00:45 < tsa> th: hm..i see.. 00:45 < esden> hmm ... rock builds happyly in stage 2 now ... /me can go to bed now 00:45 < tsa> with alien, you can extract contents of a binary rpm, but i don't know about src.rpms .. 00:45 < esden> th: you can use mc .. it can enter rpm files 00:46 < esden> then you can normally copy stuff out of it 00:46 < esden> like out of a tar or tar.gz 00:47 < sjefen> I hate stuff that only comes in .rpm 00:47 < esden> sjefen: world is not perfect ;-) 00:47 < sjefen> *nods* 00:47 < esden> but we try our best here on rocklinux ;-) 00:47 < th> esden: thanks 00:47 < esden> th: denada 00:48 < esden> ok ... good night everyone 00:48 < owl> bye,gn8 esden 00:48 < sjefen> laters esden 00:50 < th> hmmm that cfsnfs sf-project did nothing but packagin the original source from tgz into srpm... 00:50 < th> bastards.. 00:51 -!- temr [~pm@pD9E331EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 00:52 < tsa> hehe 00:53 < sjefen> reboot again. Have to uninstall "the thing". 00:53 -!- sjefen [~sjefen@ti122110a080-0313.bb.online.no] has quit ("BitchX-1.0c19 © 1996-2002 Colten Edwards") 00:56 -!- sjefen [~sjefen@ti122110a080-0313.bb.online.no] has joined #rocklinux 00:57 < rolla_> grr redhat is dumb 00:59 < sjefen> anyone here cracked a amibios password before? 01:00 < owl> sjefen: nope. but i guess that i still can remember a "masterpwd"... 01:01 < sjefen> oh, that would help right now. 01:01 < sjefen> forgot the pass on my old p90 01:01 < owl> ok. i guess it was: lkwpeter 01:01 < owl> or: ami? 01:01 < sjefen> ami 01:01 < owl> try different types of writing 01:02 < owl> yes.. you should type "ami?" 01:02 < sjefen> it's 6 chars 01:02 < sjefen> one case only 01:02 < owl> haeh? 01:02 < owl> your pwd? 01:02 < sjefen> remember the input pad in the bios 01:02 < sjefen> 6 chars max. 01:02 < owl> urgs... 01:02 < sjefen> it's waaay old. 01:03 < owl> it's almost a dead pc... 01:03 < sjefen> I've had about a zillion passwords in my past... 01:03 < owl> hm. 01:04 < sjefen> I remember last time I tried to crack the sucker, I tried to jank the bios chip out of the motherboard. Never in my life heard worse sounds. 01:04 < owl> let's aks google 01:04 < sjefen> The chip has grown stuck. 01:04 < owl> www.pcsupport.dk/support/masterpassword.htm 01:05 < owl> might you should try them :) 01:05 < sjefen> hum. 01:06 < owl> do you have the version number of your bios? 01:06 < sjefen> gimme sec. 01:07 < sjefen> no clue. probably version 1 or something :) 01:07 < owl> urgs 01:07 < sjefen> it says A772 01:08 < sjefen> whatever that is. 01:08 < sjefen> and it's a serial with about 30 numbers... 01:09 < owl> hm. k. 01:09 < sjefen> I've cracked it once before. But it's ages ago. 01:09 < sjefen> I guess I'll just have to think *realy* *hard* 01:09 < owl> hrhr. but nice to know... it's crackable... jsut to find out how... 01:09 < sjefen> heh 01:09 < owl> i guess one solution could be to remove the "backup battery" on the mainbaord... 01:10 < sjefen> I've gotta try girls names for the last... like... 10 years. *grin* 01:10 < sjefen> owl: tried that. 01:10 < owl> damn 01:10 < owl> jumpers? 01:10 < sjefen> owl: it's stuck like hell. It's been there for like... many years. 01:10 < sjefen> everything just makes a crack'y sound when I try to move it. 01:10 < sjefen> it's like one big living oranism. 01:10 < owl> ahrg. not so nice 01:11 < owl> hm. did you try some of the passwords..? 01:12 < sjefen> yeah, it's a waste. I need something brutal here. Like a shovel or something.. argh 01:12 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc1-stoc3-4-cust247.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #rocklinux 01:13 < owl> nonono 01:13 < sjefen> :) 01:13 * owl = happy, that she isn't sjefen's pc 01:13 < sjefen> heh 01:13 < owl> *g* scnr 01:14 < sjefen> I need a beer to remember this darn' password. 01:15 < owl> *ouch* "Hol dir den geilsten HACKERTOOLZ virus" << stupid guys 01:15 < sjefen> yupp. pretty lame. 01:17 < sjefen> so owl, how long have you been using linux? 01:18 < owl> uh. can't remember that fact. i'm too stupid to remember 01:18 < sjefen> heh 01:19 < sjefen> you always used linux? 01:19 < owl> nope 01:19 < sjefen> I've only used linux for like the last 5 years or so. 01:19 < sjefen> dont remember exactly neither. 01:43 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux 01:43 < LocalHero> Hello :) 01:43 < sjefen> olla :) 01:43 < owl> LocalHero: 01:43 < owl> haeh? hi LocalHero 01:43 < owl> irssi, don't cheat me! 01:45 < LocalHero> Wow, finaly i have started to build 1.6.0pre :) 01:45 < owl> congrats 01:45 < LocalHero> Well Tobias Rittweiler mailed me the source :) 01:46 < owl> hm. k. 01:46 < LocalHero> Is it possible to start several ./script/Download -base ? I mean, when i have 100mbps connection its usualy the remote server that is slow :) 01:46 < tsa> yes. 01:47 < LocalHero> tsa, and there will be no strange "writing the same file" issues 01:47 < tsa> nope - we're doing some "very basic" file locking 01:48 < LocalHero> tsa, sounds great :) 01:48 < LocalHero> I must say that rock 1.5.20 is very stable, cant wait to try 1.6.0pre :) 01:49 < sjefen> LocalHero : hey know any easy ways to waste a ami bios password? 01:49 < tsa> open case, put reset jumper on baord? 01:49 < owl> LocalHero: *g* might you should ask SMP what he thinks about 1.5.20... :P 01:50 < LocalHero> owl, oki?!? :) 01:50 < sjefen> tsa : OLD machine. 01:50 < tsa> ah, i see 01:50 < sjefen> tsa : jumper = nope. battery = nope. BIOS chip = nope. 01:50 < owl> , 01:50 < owl> aaah. 01:50 < tsa> open case, put water in - bios password will be reset. (some other things, too) 01:50 < LocalHero> sjefen, well reseting the cmos data should do it. In other case you could alvays use another computer and burn antoher bios into it 01:51 < sjefen> hehe 01:52 < LocalHero> sjefen, you can find some crack utilites at https://astalavista.box.sk/ 01:52 < sjefen> hehe 01:52 < sjefen> redirecting me to oldskool box.sk :) 01:52 < sjefen> I think I'll just get my hammer. 01:52 < LocalHero> sjefen, its a very anoying site with lots of popups but if you search for a while you should get it 01:53 < sjefen> LocalHero : I've found many neat programs at astalavista yeah :) 01:53 < LocalHero> sjefen, nobody works? 01:53 < LocalHero> Whats the motherboard model? 01:53 < sjefen> LocalHero : haven't started there yet'. 01:54 < LocalHero> searching for ami password gives a few hits 01:54 < sjefen> it's too brutal. 01:54 < sjefen> the 'generic ones' have been tried, but that ain't the way. 01:54 < sjefen> I'm going in with a screwdriver and try to unjam stuff soon :) 01:56 < LocalHero> Well then the screwdriver should do the trick :) 01:56 < sjefen> think so :) 01:56 < sjefen> I've tried before, but the motherboard makes noises of death when I try. 01:56 < sjefen> but this time, I will be merciless. 01:57 < sjefen> I'll bend on that BIOS chip till it breakes. 01:57 * owl wants to be this "almost dead motherboard" 01:57 < tsa> owl: you want to be broken, then? ;) 01:57 < owl> tsa: nope. to be dead.. 01:57 < sjefen> well, I bet I can jumpstart this sucker :) 02:00 < LocalHero> have you tried to flash the bios or remove the batery? 02:01 < sjefen> LocalHero : the battery is stuck (been the same place for 10 years or so) but I'm going for the bios chip now. 02:04 < LocalHero> sjefen, well the bios chip wont help you. Its a flash ship so it doesnt need power. If you have an old one its not even flash. Its eeprom 02:04 < LocalHero> Check the bios reset jumper 02:04 < LocalHero> Whats the model of the motherboard 02:05 < sjefen> working on it.. 02:07 < sjefen> pentium SI2? It's got a SIS 85C50(1-3) chipset 02:15 < LocalHero> sjefen, oki, no other information? 02:15 < LocalHero> like company ? 02:15 < sjefen> hmm. 02:16 < sjefen> well 02:16 < sjefen> it's made in taiwan :) 02:16 < owl> *lol* like 99.9 % (or so) of motherboards 02:16 < sjefen> hehe 02:17 < LocalHero> hehe :) 02:17 < sjefen> working on it. 02:18 < LocalHero> Oki, what does the bios say when you start up? 02:18 < sjefen> it sais here in the mb that is has 'special 5/3.3v mixed sram' hehe 02:18 < sjefen> AT the mb even. 02:20 < LocalHero> hmm, oki, there is nothing writen betwean the pci buses, like gigabyte has GA-34x or something like that 02:21 < sjefen> MS 5109 02:21 < sjefen> and that is a. 02:21 < sjefen> MSI 02:21 < sjefen> :) 02:22 < sjefen> nope, that is MS: 5109 02:22 < LocalHero> wow, fantastic :) 02:22 < sjefen> and VER:1.3 02:22 < sjefen> hehe 02:22 < LocalHero> thats an msi after all :) 02:23 < sjefen> you sure? 02:24 < LocalHero> I found the manual :) 02:25 < LocalHero> https://www.motherboards.org/manuals/p/MSI-MS-5109/1992.html 02:25 < sjefen> mohaha, and I've janked the AMIKEY chip out :) 02:25 < LocalHero> arrgh, what have you done? 02:25 < sjefen> hehe :) 02:26 < sjefen> it's a removable one. 02:26 < sjefen> but I don't remember what way it was. hope the webpage say something :) 02:27 < LocalHero> sjefen, there is usualy marks that tell :) 02:27 < LocalHero> look for a mark on the chip and one on the socket 02:28 < sjefen> LocalHero : hey, it's old, I've dropped things. It's lots of marks :) 02:28 < th> can someone explain bash-syntax "${1:-18}" to me please? 02:29 < LocalHero> Well, need some sleep, cya all 02:29 < sjefen> LocalHero : thanks :) 02:29 < sjefen> laters LocalHero 02:29 < owl> bye LocalHero 02:31 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has quit () 03:03 < tsa> n8 03:03 < sjefen> laters tsa 03:03 < tsa> cya sjefen 03:03 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9525F4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 03:07 < sjefen> nite all. 03:08 < sjefen> heh, yeah, that's probably only me :) 03:08 < sjefen> anyways. 03:08 -!- sjefen [~sjefen@ti122110a080-0313.bb.online.no] has quit ("[BX] Hanson uses BitchX. Mommy, can we dress like boys again?") 03:34 < rolla_> anyone here know alot about DNS? 03:38 < th> hmm ack 03:39 < th> rolla_: what's your problem? 03:41 < rolla_> I need to know how to register a DNS server for a domain 03:42 < th> using a NS record 03:42 < rolla_> ? 03:42 < th> is it a subdomain? 03:43 < rolla_> no 03:43 < rolla_> top level 03:43 < rolla_> maisenhelder.net 03:44 < th> so you need to do this at you domain-registrar. because a NS record must be set on .net DNS-server 03:44 < th> s,you,your, 03:45 < rolla_> hmm 03:45 < th> did you ever register a domain? 03:45 < rolla_> yes I registered it throught a website 03:45 < th> and did you enter a NS-server there? 03:46 < th> Maryland Heights, MO 63043? 03:46 < rolla_> no I used theirs 03:46 < rolla_> cause I didn't have the static ips yet 03:46 < th> so you should be able to set NS-servers through that website. 03:46 < th> otherwise you should change the registrar 03:47 < rolla_> yeah I tried that they sent me this message 03:47 < rolla_> This usually means that the nameserver is not a registered nameserver. You +need to go the registrar for that nameserver and register it. 03:47 < th> could you bounce that to th@rocklinux.de? 03:48 < rolla_> bonuce what? the email? 03:48 < th> yes 03:48 < rolla_> sure 03:49 < rolla_> sent 03:49 < th> receipt 03:50 < rolla_> they don't say much 03:50 < owl> gn8 03:50 < th> what did you ask them? 03:50 < th> n8 owl 03:51 < th> rolla_: did you try to setup a nameserver and they refused to "use" it for the domain? 03:52 < rolla_> I told them that I tried to change the DNS servers on the site but it told me Unable to add nameserver: Command failed: unable to verify existence of nameserver frisbee.maisenhelder.net 03:52 < rolla_> they have some script that spits that out 03:52 < th> well. 03:53 < rolla_> yeah 03:53 < th> frisbee.maisenhelder.net does not answer queries 03:53 < rolla_> ? 03:53 < th> the name-server does not seem to be running 03:53 < th> dig maisenhelder.net @frisbee.maisenhelder.net SOA 03:53 < th> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached 03:54 < th> did you start the name-server? 03:54 < rolla_> yeah I am looking at the now :( 03:56 < th> and "adding a nameserver" is somewhat confusing. you can add a slaving nameserver. but there can only be exactly one primary (or master) name-serverf 03:56 < rolla_> try is now 03:56 < th> and i think you want to add a primary server 03:56 < th> looks better 03:56 < th> but... 03:56 < rolla_> yeah I think I got the primary part right 03:56 < th> SOA is sorta unacceptable 03:56 < th> maisenhelder.net. 7200 IN SOA 66.136.183.235. dnsadmin.dnsvr.com. 1031575337 14400 7200 950400 7200 03:57 < th> don't use the IP there 03:57 < rolla_> ? 03:57 < th> use a name instead of the IP 03:57 < rolla_> okay 03:58 < th> and change the serial (1031575337) to something in YYYYMMDDXX format 03:58 < rolla_> I think that is from there server 03:58 < th> and times seem to be too small 03:59 < th> hmm 03:59 < rolla_> try that 03:59 < th> frisbee.maisenhelder.net seems to be already added as dns-server 03:59 < th> hmm 03:59 < rolla_> yeah I got it added as a server but I am not sure if it is the master 04:00 < th> yes it is 04:00 < th> at least with respect to the SOA 04:00 < th> you can check that by chaning something 04:00 < th> increasing serial and SIGHUPping named 04:00 < th> and querieng ns1.domainmonger.com after that 04:01 < rolla_> okay 04:02 < th> do you have two SOA records in that zone? 04:03 < rolla_> ? 04:04 < th> mail me the zone-file please 04:04 < rolla_> which one 04:05 < th> maisenhelder.net 04:05 < th> we are only talking of that one 04:05 < rolla_> send 04:07 < th> hmmm it's different from what your name-server says 04:07 < th> is it entered correctly in named.conf? 04:08 < th> send me your named.conf please 04:10 < rolla_> send 04:10 < th> zone "maisenhe.net" in { 04:10 < th> thought you want to server maisenhelder.net 04:11 < th> s,server,serve, 04:12 < rolla_> yeah 04:12 < th> so you should correct that 04:12 < rolla_> cr@p 04:13 < rolla_> done 04:13 < th> server restarted? 04:13 < th> or at leaste HUPed? 04:13 < th> s,ste,st, 04:13 < rolla_> yes 04:13 < th> strange 04:13 < th> something went wrong 04:14 < rolla_> yes 04:14 < rolla_> I get servfail 04:15 < th> did you allow queries? 04:15 < th> hmm seems so 04:16 < th> run a check-zone and check-config please 04:16 < rolla_> okay 04:17 < th> and i think you should insert a newline and @ before first IN 04:17 < th> yes i think that's it 04:17 < th> start with: 04:17 < th> $ORIGIN maisenhelder.net. 04:17 < th> and on 2nd line: @ IN SOA ... 04:17 < th> or i prefer @ 1D IN SOA ... 04:18 < rolla_> dns_master_load: /var/named/maisenhelder.db:7: No current owner name 04:18 < th> yea 04:18 < th> insert that @ 04:19 < th> i sent you a reply 04:20 < rolla_> where did you send email? 04:20 < th> From: maisenhe@frisbee.maisenhelder.net 04:20 < th> i replied 04:20 < rolla_> that will not do :( 04:21 < rolla_> try joel@maisenhelder.net 04:21 < th> gimme another addr 04:21 < th> Message bounced. 04:21 < rolla_> ? 04:21 < rolla_> the one to joel@maisenhelder.net ? 04:21 < th> i bounced the message i first sent to maisenhe@frisbee.maisenhelder.net to joel@maisenhelder.net 04:22 < rolla_> master.c:1172: dns_master_load: /var/named/maisenhelder.db:2: no TTL specified. THIS ZONE WILL NO LONGER WORK IN FUTURE VERSIONS. Add a TTL. 04:22 < th> add a 1D after the @ 04:23 < rolla_> dns_master_load: /var/named/maisenhelder.db:10: ignoring out-of-zone data 04:23 < th> did you correct the named.conf? 04:23 < rolla_> yes 04:23 < rolla_> zone "maisenhelder.net" in { 04:23 < rolla_> type master; 04:23 < rolla_> file "maisenhelder.db"; 04:23 < rolla_> notify yes; 04:23 < rolla_> }; 04:24 < th> aehm 04:24 < th> test without the last 4 cnames please 04:24 < th> comment 'em out 04:25 < rolla_> stil errors :( 04:25 < th> but looks better now 04:25 < th> mail or paste the errors 04:25 < th> remove the .maisenhelder.net. from cnames and you can readd them 04:26 < th> don't forget to always increase serial when changing something 04:26 < rolla_> okay 04:26 < rolla_> sent 04:27 < th> and the whole zone again please 04:27 < th> aehm 04:27 < th> no 04:28 < rolla_> ? 04:28 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Der Sinn des Lebens ist die Suche nach eben jenem.") 04:28 < th> you are using named-checkzone incorrectly 04:28 < rolla_> ack so? 04:28 < th> usage: named-checkzone [-dq] [-c class] zone [filename] 04:28 < th> should be "named-checkzone maisenhelder.net maisenhelder.db" 04:28 < rolla_> I am dumb 04:29 < th> i'd rename maisenhelder.db to maisenhelder.net makes things easier 04:29 < rolla_> nod 04:29 < th> ok your named seems to be serving correctly 04:29 < rolla_> :) 04:29 < th> do you still need slaving from domainmonger.com? 04:29 < rolla_> thank you very much 04:30 < rolla_> I am not sure 04:30 < th> if so you should add NS records for them 04:30 < th> and establish slaving 04:30 < rolla_> ah so 04:30 < th> currently they don't slave. 04:30 < rolla_> in the maisenhelder.db file ? 04:30 < th> yes 04:30 < th> and after all you should sync the NS-list with your registrar 04:31 < rolla_> :) 04:31 < rolla_> should there be NS lines in the db.66.136.183 file ? 04:32 < th> i think you won't get reverse-delegation for that 04:32 < rolla_> ? 04:32 < th> and db.66.136.183 is useless at all without an entry in named.conf 04:32 < rolla_> cr@p 04:33 < th> are you sure you are able to set dns-server for 233.183.136.66.in-addr.arpa? 04:33 < th> (... to point to your server) 04:33 < rolla_> no 04:34 < th> would be an issue you need to discuss with your provider 04:34 < th> and i think they wont allow you to be the nameserver for it 04:34 < rolla_> yeah 04:34 < rolla_> very true 04:34 < rolla_> one more question 04:35 < rolla_> I want to resolve maisenhelder.net to an ip address 04:35 < rolla_> how do I add that as an alias ? 04:36 < th> just add 1D IN A Your_IP_Here below the 2nd NS line 04:36 < th> as an alias? 04:36 < th> alias as in "cname"? 04:36 < rolla_> yes 04:37 < th> you really do not want maisenhelder.net to be a CNAME 04:37 < th> you just want a A-record on maisenhelder.net to point to your IP 04:37 < rolla_> yes 04:38 < th> 04:36:14 < th> just add 1D IN A Your_IP_Here below the 2nd NS line 04:38 < th> exactly taht way 04:38 < rolla_> okay 04:38 < rolla_> sweet 04:38 < th> well you added ns1.domainmonger.com but they still do not slave 04:39 < th> you need to make them use your server as master and just slave 04:39 < rolla_> yeah I think I must wait for an email from them 04:39 < rolla_> yup 04:39 < th> ok 04:39 < th> time for bed now... 04:39 < th> it's almost 05:00 AM 04:40 < rolla_> bye 04:40 < th> (i always sleep well after zone-file crash-curses ;) ) 04:41 < rolla_> :) 04:42 < th> gn8 05:12 -!- owl_ [~mail-spam@B5b24.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:13 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5b24.pppool.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:15 -!- kasc_ [~shaman@p5090B5ED.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05:29 -!- kasc_ [~shaman@p5090BA3A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 06:08 -!- Netsplit anthony.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: hannes, Parabull 06:09 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Parabull, hannes 06:09 -!- hannes [~hannes@aszlig.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 06:09 -!- hannes [~hannes@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:16 < aszlig> moin 07:46 < blindcoder> moin 07:49 < blindcoder> hmm... I'm somehow sure that I do something really wrong... 08:40 -!- Lorini [~Lorini@pD9506D83.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:53 -!- Lorini is now known as LoriAW 10:10 < esden> morning 10:20 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 10:32 < aszlig> 'lo esden 10:48 < esden> cu all 12:13 -!- temr [~pm@pD9E3354A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:19 -!- mjm_ [~mjm@62.245.182.10] has joined #rocklinux 12:19 < mjm_> hi. 12:41 -!- mjm_ [~mjm@62.245.182.10] has quit ("Segmentation fault (core dumped)") 12:51 < esden> mjm ??? who was that ... 12:57 < esden> wee my cd burner is working once again ! ;-) 13:06 < owl_> moin 13:06 -!- owl_ is now known as owl 13:20 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:38 < esden> yo ... new kernel for the sunfire is now building ... 13:50 -!- pjotrp [~wrk@gate.causeway-tech.com] has joined #rocklinux 14:04 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50816FD4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:21 -!- LoriAW is now known as Lorini 14:22 < esden> hi Lorini !!! *hug* 14:22 < Lorini> hi esden 14:24 < esden> na endlich wird es waermer in meinem zimmer ... 14:27 -!- Lorini is now known as LoriAW 14:34 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D345.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:35 * tcr hails all 14:37 < rolla> re 14:41 < esden> hi tcr 14:41 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D345.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:41 < esden> hi rolla 14:41 * -> esden testing bochs 14:41 < esden> it seems to be pretty usable 14:42 < rolla> :) 14:43 < rolla> I have my two alpha servers up running linux now :) 14:44 < esden> rolla: good !! 14:45 < rolla> yeah they are my DNS servers :) 14:46 < rolla> and once rock can work on alpha they will be rocked 14:46 < esden> rolla: yo ... I will give my best ... 14:50 < rolla> :) 14:52 < blindcoder> rehi 14:56 < pjotrp> Anyone want to give 1.6.0pre1 a try? 14:57 < blindcoder> If you have a Sparc32 ISO I could really use it :) 14:57 < pjotrp> soure tar ball 14:57 < pjotrp> source 14:58 < pjotrp> Not been tested on SPARC yet 15:00 < blindcoder> hmm... where can I get it? 15:01 < blindcoder> hmm... I gotta go... 15:01 < blindcoder> sorry 15:01 < blindcoder> see you 15:04 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D345.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:08 < rolla> pjotrp you mean compile ? 15:08 < pjotrp> yeah 15:09 < pjotrp> it is a peek preview of the pre version ;-) 15:09 < rolla> I am working on that right now :) 15:09 < rolla> I need to finish the downloads of the sources 15:09 < pjotrp> Did you get the 1.6 tarball? 15:09 < rolla> got it from Mike 15:10 < rolla> but I will take whatever you have aswell :) 15:13 < owl> re 15:13 -!- gnupg [~tgerke@c142248.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:14 < gnupg> Hi all 15:15 < owl> hi gnupg 15:15 < tcr> moin 15:16 * gnupg likes CVS 15:17 * tcr is beginning to like it, well kind of 15:18 < esden> hi gnupg 15:19 < esden> argh qt needs an eternity to build 15:20 < gnupg> Wie komme ich an drock 1.6.1 ran? 15:20 < rolla> qt sucks how long for you esden? 15:20 < esden> == 14:11:14 =[5]=> Building kde-30/qt-30 [3.0.6 1.7-snapshot]. 15:20 < esden> and has not finished yet ... 15:22 < rolla> it takes me 3 and 1/2 hours to 4 to build qt :( 15:23 * gnupg likes compilercache 15:23 < rolla> compilercache? 15:24 < gnupg> rolla - have a look at https://www.erikyyy.de/compilercache/ 15:27 < esden> gnupg: is it working ? 15:28 < gnupg> esden - yes, i compiled my kernel with it. 15:29 < gnupg> esden - bis du auch in #debian aktiv? 15:29 < esden> hmm ... I will test it when I finally start working on the uClibc target 15:29 < esden> gnupg: noe ... ich bin ein ueberzeugter rocklinuxer seid mehreren jahren ... lasse dich nicht von dem weasel verwirren ;-) 15:29 < gnupg> esden - do you know dietlibc? 15:30 < esden> gnupg: yes ... I made the dietlibc target in rocklinux ;-) 15:30 < gnupg> esden - i guess, you had a lot of fun... :) 15:30 < esden> and lost a lot of my helth on it ;-) 15:31 < esden> and sleep too ;-) 15:31 < gnupg> lol 15:32 < gnupg> is mit dem cvs server was nicht in ordnung? 15:32 < esden> gnupg: mit welchem ? 15:33 < gnupg> esden - anoncvs.rocklinux.de 15:33 < tcr> wieso? 15:33 < esden> ach das ist 1.5 ... da habe ich nichts damit zu tun ... und weiss es nicht ... 15:33 < esden> aber der sollte in ordnung sein 15:35 < gnupg> der macht bei mir nach rock-1.5/subdists/user-mode-linux/syscon schluss. 15:36 < gnupg> Krieg ich eigentlich auch drock von cvs? 15:36 < gnupg> esden - wie viele habt ihr den? 15:37 < tcr> gnupg: und was soll daran so unnormal sein ??? 15:38 < gnupg> tcr - waere das checkout danach fertig, wuerde müsste ich nicht Ctrl-C drücken, dass muss ich leider. 15:39 < gnupg> s/wuerde// 15:39 < tcr> nein, einfach ein wenig warten 15:39 < gnupg> tcr - ein wenig? 15:39 < tcr> ich weiß auch nicht was der da am ende macht, aber das dauert bei mir auch manchmal ein wenig länger 15:40 < esden> gnupg: zwei ... einen fuer 1.7 und einen fuer 1.5 15:40 < esden> das sind zwei trees 15:40 < tcr> haste du denn mal auf den prozesstatus geguckt? 15:40 < tcr> glaube kaum, dass er defunced oder sleeped war 15:41 < gnupg> tcr - der schläft. 15:42 < gnupg> Ist gnome 2.0 in rock-1.7? 15:45 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 15:45 < Mike1> moin all 15:46 < rolla> re Mike1 15:46 < rolla> my DNS is up :) 15:46 < owl> hi Mike1 15:46 < Mike1> pjotrp: make the release 15:46 < Mike1> rolla great 15:47 < rolla> yeah i needed help from th last night to get it going 15:47 < Mike1> m... 15:50 < tcr> gnupg: ps -p<PID> -o pid,tt,user,fname,tmout,f,wchan 15:51 < gnupg> tcr - zu spät... jetzt versuche ich es mit 1.7 15:51 < tcr> viel spaß 15:52 < gnupg> :-D 15:52 < tcr> hi Mike1 15:53 < esden> hi Mike1 ! 15:54 * tcr is listening to Die Apokalyptischren Reiter - Erhelle Meine Seele 15:56 * gnupg ponders 15:56 < gnupg> Noch jemand aus Hamburg hier? 15:58 < pjotrp> Don't understand German 15:58 < pjotrp> ;-) 15:58 < rolla> neither do I :) 16:00 -!- Satg [~satg@196.40.66.18] has joined #rocklinux 16:00 < Mike1> moin Satg 16:00 < Satg> hello people 16:00 < Satg> Hola Mike 16:00 < tcr> moin 16:08 * gnupg rofls 16:13 < gnupg> Ihr scheint e4in ähnliches prinzip wie gentoo zu haben. 16:14 < tcr> hm. well 16:14 < Mike1> export LANG=en_UK 16:15 < esden> Mike1: he said that we have a simmilar system to gentoo 16:15 < tcr> gnupg: that only seems so because both are source distributions 16:15 < esden> gnupg: I would not say something like this here ;-) 16:15 < Mike1> esden: i know 16:15 < esden> tcr: ack 16:16 < Mike1> esden: but i am trying to be polite with the ones that will not understand german 16:16 < esden> gnupg: rocklinux is a distribution build kit ... and gentoo is a source distribution 16:16 < esden> that is a very big difference 16:16 < esden> rocklinux could also contain gentoo as a part ... 16:18 < esden> Mike1: yo ... you are right 16:23 < gnupg> What's the difference between gawk an any other awk expect the license? 16:23 < gnupg> My english is a bit partial. 16:23 < tcr> info gawk 16:23 < tcr> there is a historical section 16:27 < tcr> pjotrp: i'm not familiar with install discs and such stuff, otherwise i'd take care bout them :/ 16:28 < gnupg> How much space i need to build rocklinux 1.7? (Are 4GByte enough?) 16:30 < esden> gnupg: yes it should be enough 16:33 < esden> gnupg: you need for the sources 1.2GB 16:33 < esden> and for the build ... 16:36 < esden> something about 4 GB should be enough 16:37 < aszlig> rehi 16:37 < Mike1> re aszlig 16:37 < esden> hi aszlig 16:37 < Mike1> ROCK - 1.6.0pre1 has been released 16:38 < esden> uh oh ... interesting ... 16:38 < gnupg> Mike1 - hah? 16:38 < Mike1> gnupg: its the current stable tree 16:39 < gnupg> Mike1 - but without the pre1. 16:39 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D345.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 16:39 < Mike1> gnupg: not yet 16:39 < Mike1> gnupg: this is a test release 16:39 < Mike1> one more test release left before stable 16:40 < gnupg> I saw drock 1.6.1-rc1 at https://www.rocklinux.org/projects/drock/src 16:40 < esden> Mike1: you mean "stable" 16:40 < Mike1> esden: yes 16:40 < Mike1> gnupg: dROCK != ROCK 16:41 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49734.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:41 < esden> stable as in : works for huebi ... 16:41 < gnupg> Mike1 - i know! 16:41 < Mike1> esden: stable as in words of PJ and i 16:41 < pjotrp> tested 16:41 < esden> Mike1: I will test the release for sure ... 16:42 < esden> pjotrp: good 16:42 < Mike1> esdy we would really apreciate it thanks 16:42 < esden> pjotrp, Mike1: I hope you guys will prove my prejudices as being wrong ... 16:43 < Mike1> esden: yeah :) 16:45 < Mike1> by the way regarding the SCSI thingy i think we should have this fixed 16:45 < Mike1> and not just throw it away 16:46 < esden> pjotrp: "If people get nasty just ask them to contribute instead of whining. 16:46 < esden> " well said ;-) 16:47 < esden> Mike1: yo 16:53 -!- bishophome [~bishop@h062040148066.kob.cm.kabsi.at] has joined #rocklinux 16:55 -!- bishophome [~bishop@h062040148066.kob.cm.kabsi.at] has quit (Client Quit) 16:55 -!- bishophome [~bishop@h062040148066.kob.cm.kabsi.at] has joined #rocklinux 16:55 -!- bishophome [~bishop@h062040148066.kob.cm.kabsi.at] has quit (Client Quit) 16:59 -!- gnupg [~tgerke@c142248.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit ("[BX] Eat, drink and be merry...for tomorrow we die") 17:00 < tcr> hmm .. pjotrp ?? I ask me how Build-Pkg can ever branch to the the last else of the script (that one printing the `Aborted building package' msg) at all. It will only abort (according to the source) if $root/var/adm/logs/$logpf-$pkg.log does _not_ exist. So far so good, but some lines above (in the big {} that's respoinsible for the compilation) there is a line "touch $root/var/adm/logs/$logpf-$pkg.log" that is _always_ executed (yeah i know, 17:00 < tcr> I have recognized the set -e, but that exists the whole script at once, and not only the code in the {}s). Have you any clue about this? 17:03 < tcr> pjotrp: ooh, i got it mysefl ;0) .. it starts a subprocess, so the it won't actually exit the whole script 17:04 < th> re 17:05 < Mike1> moin th 17:05 < th> hi Mike1 17:07 < Mike1> th: i agree with you on no having gpm disabled by default 17:12 < owl> and "wech" bye... (dentist 17:13 < pjotrp> yes, the build uses the shell trap for that 17:13 < pjotrp> basic exception handling ;-) 17:14 < tcr> yeah, i havent seen that it's piped to another code block, which fact makes it to a subprocess :) 17:15 < th> pjotrp: where should i commit changes to fix the mouse (gpm) problem? 17:16 < Mike1> th: regular 1.5 repository 17:16 < Mike1> th: as 1.6.0pre1 is out 17:16 < th> ok. so pre1-branch is frozen now? 17:16 < Mike1> th: ack 17:16 < th> affirmed. 17:18 < pjotrp> I'll do a merge later this week and we will rename the repository module to rock-1.6 17:19 < th> ok 17:19 < Mike1> pjotrp: why not today ? *gg* 17:20 < pjotrp> need to do some other work 17:20 < Mike1> ok :) 17:21 < pjotrp> Anyone feel up to it can do it - not really difficult. Just may need to resolve a few conflicts 17:21 < pjotrp> See CVS manuals 17:25 < fake> wee! 17:25 < fake> <- will get a donation from SUN 17:25 < fake> a cobalt raq2 (mips) 17:25 < fake> *jumparound) 17:26 < esden> congrats fake 17:26 < Mike1> fake: htf did you get the donation? i have been looking for it for long time 17:26 < esden> Mike1: he is having a lot of luck in the last time ;-) 17:27 < esden> tons of it ;-) 17:27 < Mike1> godd thing 17:27 < Mike1> good even 17:28 < esden> Mike1: yes you are right. At least some people have luck ;-) 17:28 < esden> that is good to know ;-) 17:29 < esden> hmm ... gt-30 ... 2 hours compile time ... 17:29 < esden> not gt >_< 17:29 < esden> qt ! 17:30 -!- pjotrp [~wrk@gate.causeway-tech.com] has left #rocklinux () 17:33 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49734.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 17:34 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813757.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:37 < esden> Error logs from default-1.7-snapshot-ia32-athlon-tbird-generic-expert: 17:37 < esden> 1174 builds total, 409 completed fine, 24 with errors. 17:42 * -> esden is asking himself how many people are subscribed to the rlml 17:42 (Users #rocklinux) 17:42 [ [anders] ] [ fake ] [ kasc_ ] [ praenti] [ Satg ] [ th] 17:42 [ aszlig ] [ Ge0rG ] [ LoriAW] [ qubit_ ] [ SMP ] 17:42 [ blindcoder] [ hannes ] [ mayan ] [ rolla ] [ snyke] 17:42 [ bluefire ] [ huebi ] [ Mike1 ] [ rolla_ ] [ tcr ] 17:42 [ esden ] [ ichilton] [ owl ] [ rxr ] [ temr ] 17:42 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 26 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 26 normal] 17:46 -!- Netsplit anthony.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Satg 17:52 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Satg 17:53 -!- Satg [~satg@196.40.66.18] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18:14 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@p50800D77.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:17 < aszlig> rehi blindcoder? 18:23 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4FC3E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18:24 -!- gnupg [~tgerke@c142248.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:24 < aszlig> 'lo gnupg 18:25 < gnupg> Da bin ich wider 18:27 < gnupg> Wie kann ich das downloaden und kompilieren von kde 3.1 abschalten? 18:27 < aszlig> dunno, never used it... 18:33 < gnupg> Kann mir keiner helfen :-(( 18:33 < aszlig> sorry, please ask your question in egnglish again.. 18:36 < tcr> gnupg: what about disabling it? 18:36 * tcr brb 18:36 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813757.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 18:38 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E494D1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:40 < tcr> Mike1: ping 18:40 < Mike1> pong 18:43 < tcr> Mike1: i'm currently adding the new gcc protector patch (dimitar pointed to it recently) to 1.6 -- will need anyone to perform a test build (my development box is a p-mmx 200mhz, would be a pain in the ass 8)) 18:43 < Mike1> tcr: adding it to ur own tree or to cvs? 18:44 < tcr> talked to pjotr about this, we agreed in adding it to 1.6 only if it obviously breaks any pkgs 18:45 < tcr> er, if it doesnt break ;) 18:45 < Mike1> i have a Dual athlon xp 2.0ghz so it will not be a pain :) 18:45 < tcr> hm, ok will send a patch to the hackers list 18:45 < Mike1> thanks 18:49 < gnupg> tcr - how to disable it? 18:50 < gnupg> How to disable d/loading building kde 3.1? 18:51 < gnupg> Were's Crusoe missing in ARchitecture menu. 18:51 < tcr> gnupg: we are talking about 1.7, right? 18:52 < gnupg> tcr - yes 18:52 < tcr> please take a look at the Config script (./scripts/Config?), and choose an option named à la "For experts only" (or something similiar), there is an additional option where you can choose pkgs 19:06 < owl> re 19:07 < gnupg> tcr - i did "Additional Package Selections -> Custom Package Selections" and added "- kde-31", "- gnome-14" under the topic ",----< Package selection rules >----.", but nothing changed. (./scripts/Download -all is still downloading erverything) 19:10 < gnupg> tcr - any idea? 19:10 < tcr> hm. well Download -all is probably supposed to do so. I'm not familiar to 1.7 to be able to say how you should invoke Download .. Mike1? esden? fake? 19:11 < gnupg> tcr - so you're using 1.5, aren't you? 19:11 < tcr> jap 19:15 < gnupg> esden - are you able to help me? 19:15 < Mike1> tcr: on 1.7 you can dowload all packages with scripts/Download -all 19:15 < tcr> Mike1: no, he just wants to download the choosen pkgs 19:15 < Mike1> gnupg: tcr but all you want / need to download for building is fetched with scripts/Download -required 19:16 < Mike1> tcr: the package sselectiong is done while running scripts/Config 19:16 < Mike1> then simply run srcipts/Download -required 19:16 < Mike1> that will do it 19:16 < tcr> ok, thats what he wanted to know :) 19:16 < gnupg> thanks Mike 19:17 < Mike1> gnupg: you are welcome 19:17 * Mike1 back to work 19:17 < tcr> have phun 19:18 * gnupg whishes Mike1 a lot of fun 19:19 * gnupg likes A-DSL (but S-DSL would be better) 19:33 * gnupg is jump'n'running 19:33 < gnupg> PnP - Plug and Pray 19:35 -!- gnupg [~tgerke@c142248.adsl.hansenet.de] has left #rocklinux () 19:37 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E494D1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 19:39 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813AF2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:48 -!- bishophome [~bishop@h062040148066.kob.cm.kabsi.at] has joined #rocklinux 19:49 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 19:49 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 19:50 < Mike1> hi blindy 19:50 < owl> hi blindcoder 19:51 < blindcoder> hi Mike1 ! 19:51 < blindcoder> hi owly ! 19:57 < aszlig> rehi 19:57 < aszlig> 'lo blindcoder 19:59 < owl> hi aszlig 19:59 < owl> did you ask katharina and/or christoph about their mobile phone numbers? 20:00 -!- gnupg [~tgerke@c142248.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:00 < gnupg> ich komme wieder keine frage. 20:03 -!- gnupg [~tgerke@c142248.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit ("bitte versteht mein verhalten als zeichen der ablehnung") 20:05 < bishophome> hi can someone say me where i can get summit v2.2 DX Platinum? 20:06 < blindcoder> what's that? 20:06 -!- satg [~satg@196.40.66.18] has joined #rocklinux 20:06 < bishophome> a driver for ati 20:07 < blindcoder> sorry, no idea 20:07 < bishophome> i have fucking probs with my ati radeon 8500 20:10 -!- bishophome [~bishop@h062040148066.kob.cm.kabsi.at] has quit ("Client Exiting") 20:17 < tcr> Mike1: will send the patch in some minutes 20:59 < rolla> == 13:50:32 =[2]=> Building base package perl5 [5.8.0 1.6.0pre1]. 21:05 < rolla> anyone alive? 21:06 < tcr> ja 21:09 < rolla> gute 21:09 < rolla> == 14:08:45 =[2]=> Building base package groff [1.17.2 1.6.0pre1]. 21:09 < rolla> the slow march of the 1.6.0pre1 build 21:09 < tcr> hehe :) but seems to be good so far.. that's fine 21:10 < Mike1> ... 21:10 < Mike1> re all 21:10 < rolla> re Mike 21:10 < rolla> yeah the build is going very well :) 21:11 < tcr> ah Mike1 :) the patch have been delaying :/ 21:11 < tcr> has even 21:11 < Mike1> rolla i need to run a build but have been unable because a patch has not arrived to me 21:11 < Mike1> !!! 21:11 < rolla> :) 21:12 < tcr> do you mean mine patch? 21:12 < Mike1> tcr: of course :) 21:12 < tcr> okok, just creating the diffs 21:12 < Mike1> tcr: no worries 21:12 < Mike1> i just moved it 4 lines below my TODO list 21:16 < rolla> == 14:16:35 =[2]=> Building base package util-linux [2.11w 1.6.0pre1]. 21:16 * blindcoder in now going to end this fscking day 21:16 < Mike1> blindcoder: bad day 21:16 < Mike1> ? 21:16 < blindcoder> maye I don't need to get up tomorrow... oh well... 21:16 < blindcoder> good n8 21:17 < Mike1> oyasumi nasai blindcoder 21:17 < blindcoder> Mike1: not today... I'll tell you some other day... 21:17 < blindcoder> oyasumi, Mike-san! 21:25 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:26 < Mike1> hi netcrow 21:27 < tcr> arghs Mike1 lol! damn, i forgot to add one line :/ 21:29 < tcr> hm 21:34 < tcr> Mike1: sent 21:40 < netcrow> hi 21:40 < owl> hi netcrow 21:58 -!- sjefen [~sjefen@ti122110a080-0313.bb.online.no] has joined #rocklinux 21:58 < tcr> moin sjefen 21:58 < sjefen> hello. 21:58 < sjefen> this is my first install of rock :) 21:59 < sjefen> feels great :) 22:05 < rolla> :) 22:05 -!- LoriAW is now known as Lorini 22:08 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("schlafen!") 22:13 < rolla> == 15:11:59 =[3]=> Building base package binutils [2.13.90.0.10 1.6.0pre1]. 22:13 < rolla> rock on 22:13 < esden> hmm ... interesting ... how many days do I need to build 1.7 ? >_< 22:13 < esden> that sucks ! 22:17 < sjefen> what's the diffrence between 1.7 and 1.5? 22:17 < sjefen> doesn't both download up to date packages and compile them? 22:18 < tcr> yap 22:19 < sjefen> so what is the diffrence? 22:20 < tcr> 1.7 is development, 1.6 stable -- 1.7 have got plenty new and interesting features, rewrites etc. but needs manually tweaking on many places 22:20 < tcr> s,have,has, 22:21 < sjefen> features like what? 22:22 < Mike1> hi Lorini 22:22 < Mike1> hi sjefen 22:22 < Lorini> hi mike :)) 22:22 < sjefen> hello Mike1 22:22 < sjefen> Mike1 : got my first rockl up and running :) 22:23 * Mike1 feels very glad to hear the nordish lands are finally rocked 22:23 < sjefen> hehe :) 22:24 < tcr> sjefen: rewriting of buildscripts, managing of packaging ... cluster support 22:25 < sjefen> tcr : ok. 22:25 < tcr> sjefen: see https://www.rocklinux.de/rolling/2002-01/page1.html 22:27 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-182-183.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:27 < holyolli> moin 22:28 < sjefen> hello 22:28 < sjefen> tcr : so, is 2.0 close? 22:28 < sjefen> :) 22:28 < holyolli> hi sjefen 22:28 < tcr> dunno 22:29 < owl> re 22:29 < owl> Mike1: unkraine will be rocked soon, too ;) 22:29 < sjefen> olla' owl. 22:29 < holyolli> hi owl 22:29 < owl> hi sjefen 22:29 < owl> hi holyolli 22:29 < holyolli> owl: *hug* 22:29 < owl> *grrrrrr* 22:30 < holyolli> ;) 22:32 < owl> holyolli: how r u? 22:34 < holyolli> owl: hm. så där 22:34 < holyolli> owl: geht so.. 22:35 < owl> holyolli: zu viel zu lernen? ;) 22:37 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813AF2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 22:40 < esden> sjefen: I would not say that 2.0 is close ... there are tons of work that still has to be done ... and we would like to include many things that are still not implemented ... 22:40 < esden> but that is not the main point 22:41 < sjefen> yeah. 22:41 < esden> the only architecture that really works in 1.7 is intel ... and that is not the only architecture in the world 22:41 < sjefen> true, but the majority is intel tho'. 22:41 < owl> uh... somone sounds frustrated... esden ? ;) 22:42 < esden> owl: not frustrated 22:42 < owl> annonyed? 22:42 < esden> I only describe what the current situation is 22:42 < owl> ok :) 22:43 < sjefen> what is this 'automatic package update thing' then? is it working? :) 22:54 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-182-183.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23:01 < Lorini> night!" 23:01 -!- Lorini is now known as LoriZzZ 23:02 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50816FD4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 23:02 < sjefen> nite' all. 23:13 < esden> sjefen: I have not really tested the update stuff ... so I can not tell you ... 23:13 * -> esden -> bed 23:13 < owl> gn8 esden 23:17 < Mike1> n8 all 23:17 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 23:20 -!- temr [~pm@pD9E3354A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 23:28 < satg> See you people !! >) 23:28 < satg> bye 23:28 -!- satg [~satg@196.40.66.18] has quit ("Client Exiting") --- Log closed Wed Dec 18 00:00:51 2002