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--- Log opened Sun Jan 05 00:00:25 2003 --- Day changed Sun Jan 05 2003 00:26 < huebi_> Moin! 00:26 < huebi_> Now I have a internet link in the office. 00:27 -!- huebi_ is now known as huebi 00:27 < huebi> Unstable, but it works. 00:27 < owl> hi huebi 00:27 < huebi> hi owl 00:28 < huebi> with a windows router in the moment, because of hexediting the DLink DWL-520Plus driver did not work. 00:28 < owl> *g* i feel with you, huebi 00:29 < huebi> :-) 00:30 * huebi going to slaughter a i486 with a D-Link DWL-650 PCMCIA adapter and PLX adapter... 00:30 -!- chrisime is now known as chris|me 00:37 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs3.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 00:37 < huebi> Moin ringo30 00:37 < ringo30> moin huebi ! 00:38 < ringo30> What is da best binary to install with a good bootcd ? Getting sick of mandrake ;-) 00:39 < huebi> ringo30: th and me are bussy with the read only subdistribution of 1.6.0pre3. That will be a very good rescue CD 00:41 < ringo30> any ideas when it will be finished ? I wanna bring my p4 to live (now its running xp :-( ) 00:43 < huebi> ringo30: here you can find the ISO image: ftp://stud.fbi.fh-darmstadt.de/pub/linux/rocklinux/iso-images 00:44 < huebi> ringo30: for P4 00:45 < huebi> In the moment it work only for IDE only system directly from CD - else you have to use the floppy images on the CD 00:47 < ringo30> luckely it ide ;-) 00:49 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B52f2.pppool.de] has quit ("brb. changing ISP") 00:52 -!- owl [~mail-spam@otdial-212-144-110-235.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:52 < owl> re 00:52 < huebi> hi owl 00:52 < huebi> owl: do you need an ISDN router? 00:53 < owl> hm? facts...? i will normally set up an old box with openbsd as router... 00:54 < huebi> owl: I'll have a look at it in the next days. I have about 50 of them avaliable. very small and easy to use. 00:55 < ringo30> huebi : downloading 1.6.0 pre 3 00:55 < huebi> ringo30: :-)) 00:55 < owl> hm. k. thx. 01:09 < snyke> hm 01:09 < snyke> <-- needs esden =) 01:10 < owl> SNYKE!!! 01:18 -!- chris|me [~chrisime@p508023B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01:35 -!- rolla_ [~Der@134.244.181.87] has joined #rocklinux 01:35 -!- rolla [~Der@134.244.181.87] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:38 < snyke> <-- needs esden =) 01:38 < owl> <-- needs sword 01:38 * snyke gives sword 01:38 * owl kills snyke 01:39 * huebi cleans up the channel from the blood 01:39 < owl> snyke: btw, did you write an irssi-script for "<-- needs esden =)" ? 01:39 < owl> thx a lot huebi. and please don't tell anyone that i killed snyke 01:40 < snyke> owl: I don't use irssi. sorry. 01:40 < snyke> I use xchat with psyBNC 01:40 < owl> snyke: *argh 01:41 < owl> X? what is X? the anime? *hrhr* 01:41 < snyke> .. 01:46 -!- panto [~lfs@pD9510993.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:46 < SMP> huebi? how did you get the WLAN to work at last? 01:48 -!- rolla [~Der@adsl-66-136-183-236.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:48 < rolla> re all 01:48 < huebi> SMP: I put the router on the balcony inside the house. now I have only 1 Wall and one window to pass. (And a not so lucky wife with the 2 network cables laying arround in the whole flat. 01:50 < SMP> hehe 01:52 < ringo30> huebi nice job, only something with apic ? noapic ... Rocking .... 01:54 < huebi> ringo30: Thanks. 01:55 < huebi> ringo30: ACPI is now in the kernel for newer boards. 01:55 < huebi> noapic is needed for broken BIOSes 01:55 < huebi> only 02:12 < rolla> the movie Ronin rules :) 02:20 < ringo30> hmm ... rockorig/Documentation seems to be missing ? 02:20 < huebi> ringo30: Yes, a bad link. 02:20 < huebi> It's on my todo list. 02:22 < ringo30> ok ... sri 02:29 < snyke> <-- needs esden =) 03:04 -!- Sch0rSch [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:04 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: Sch0rSch!georg@club-mate.net))) 03:04 -!- Sch0rSch is now known as Ge0rG 03:04 < huebi> moin Ge0rG 03:04 < Ge0rG> huhu 03:05 < Ge0rG> huebi: das wurde leider nix mehr am 29... wir haben die isos nicht gebrannt bekommen und als wir mit bin&cue angerückt sind, hat deine WS den geist aufgegeben 03:06 < huebi> Ge0rG: Wurde nicht der Strom abgeschaltet? 03:06 < Ge0rG> huebi: irgendwann später vielleicht 03:06 < Ge0rG> wir sind aber erst gegen morgen verpeilt rumgelaufen und haben die stromstrippen eingesammelt ;) 03:06 < Ge0rG> da war strom iirc noch da 03:07 < tsa> LANG=en, please 03:07 < Ge0rG> oh sorry 03:07 < Ge0rG> hi tsa 03:07 < huebi> so um 5h sollte der STrom wohl abgeschaltet worden sein. Habe ich jedenfalls erzaehlt bekommen. 03:07 < huebi> hi tsa 03:07 < tsa> hi huebi, geo 03:07 < tsa> rg 03:08 < tsa> *NARF* 03:08 < Ge0rG> huebi: s/strom/netz/ 03:11 < huebi> sysstat tools are now in base 03:13 < blindcoder> I don't like this... 03:13 < blindcoder> hi all... 03:13 < huebi> moin blindcoder 03:13 < blindcoder> I just came home and a part of my rom is completely messed up 03:13 < huebi> blindcoder: What do you meen?> 03:13 < blindcoder> and I _know_ I didn't leave it in that state... 03:13 < blindcoder> s/rom/room/ 03:14 < huebi> blindcoder: call the cops to catch the burglar 03:14 < tsa> blindcoder: been smoking too much weed at 19c3? ;) 03:14 < blindcoder> my cable-box is pulled out o the corner, some "Ordner" are thrown on the floor and the sideboard is destroyed 03:14 < blindcoder> tsa: I haven't been there 03:14 < tsa> hm.. 03:15 < blindcoder> And if my parents had just been searching for a cable or what then they'd called me 03:15 < tsa> any pets at home that like destroying your room? 03:15 < blindcoder> none big enough (one Shih-Tzu, but that is too small) 03:16 < blindcoder> ah well.... I need a rest (just came back from Nuremburg (Palm Beach)) 03:16 < blindcoder> see ya tomorrow... erm... later :-) 03:16 < huebi> blindcoder: cu 03:17 < huebi> (nice feeling - having internet again) 03:25 < huebi> SMP: Camn you give me the URL of the webcvs front end 03:25 < huebi> ? 03:29 < tsa> n8 03:29 < huebi> cu tsa 03:29 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082BC9A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("*plopp*") 03:56 -!- panto [~lfs@pD9510993.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux () 04:23 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Der Sinn des Lebens ist die Suche nach eben jenem.") 04:30 < huebi> Nacht 04:33 < owl> gn8 huebi 04:34 < rolla> re owl 04:34 < owl> moin rolla. 04:34 < rolla> morn? 04:34 < rolla> wie spaet ist es? 04:34 < owl> 04:34 04:35 < owl> a.m 04:35 < rolla> ach so? 04:35 < owl> :) but i'm saying "moin" even if it's late afternoon or so 04:35 < rolla> :) 04:35 < rolla> it is 21:35 04:36 < owl> *g* 04:36 < owl> how r u btw? 04:36 < rolla> gute 04:36 < rolla> tired 04:37 < owl> *lol* at 21:35??? 04:37 < owl> haha 04:37 < rolla> ja 04:37 < owl> haha. you're getting old, i guess... ;) 07:47 < aszlig> rehi 07:47 < aszlig> hmm... 07:47 < aszlig> i think i should sleep now *gg* 07:47 < aszlig> hrm.. 07:48 < aszlig> but first.. goin' to smoke a cig ;) 07:50 < aszlig> brb :Q 07:56 < aszlig> k, sleepin' 07:56 < aszlig> gnu n8 10:12 < huebi> Moin 10:26 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4F2F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:26 < huebi> moin blindcoder :-) 10:46 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F193.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:23 < praenti> moin 11:26 < huebi> moin praenti :-) 11:39 -!- kasc [~shaman@p50909069.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:14 < SMP> huebi: https://cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/ 12:15 < huebi> SMP: Moin und danke 12:18 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p5081312E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:19 < tcr> moin all 12:19 < huebi> moin tcr 12:21 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p5080257C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:21 < tcr> ah huebi: what's about the bug report made by Mario Jose Medjeral? 12:22 < tcr> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 16:44:31 +0000 12:23 < huebi> tcr: My mail server is down in the moment. Can you dcc it? 12:24 < huebi> tcr: or forward it to huebi@world.cabal1.net 12:24 < tcr> well, it's only 10 lines long, so I just paste into a query, ok? 12:24 < huebi> ok 12:25 < tcr> a fix for tge last point was alreay comitted 12:26 < tcr> the information he provides is unfortunately a bit sparely 12:26 < huebi> tcr: but sufficient to find the errors, I think... 12:27 < tcr> hmm. I actually thought of appealing for more information, e.g. grepping for bin/vim in /var/adm/flists 12:27 < tcr> so we'd have the bogus pkg at once 12:30 < tcr> do you have a lately build with all flists? 12:31 < huebi> better only that information than no bug report at all. :-) 12:35 < tcr> so? 12:40 < praenti> can anybody tell me how i get only the pid from this line:" 286 vc/1 00:00:00 master" 12:41 < tcr> with ps? 12:41 < praenti> tcr: when you can tell me a ps parameter where i can get the processes from user cyrus with pid and process-name 12:42 < praenti> vc/1 and cpu-time is not interesting 12:42 < praenti> the next point ist to cut the whitespaces and the name away 12:42 < praenti> this is done by sed 12:43 < huebi> praenti or tr 12:43 < huebi> ps -u cyrus <- All processes of cyrus 12:43 < praenti> but i only have cut the whitespaces and informations after vc/1 away 12:43 < praenti> huebi: this is the line i used 12:44 < praenti> piped this to grep master 12:44 < praenti> ps --user cyrus | grep master 12:44 < tcr> ps -u cyrus -o pid,cmd 12:44 < praenti> ok looks better for sed parsing. thx 12:44 < huebi> ps -u huebi 12:45 < huebi> 17667 ? 00:00:00 mozilla-bin 12:45 < huebi> 17667 ? 00:00:00 mozilla-bin 12:45 < tcr> there may be an option to cut the first line off 12:45 < huebi> ps -u huebi | tr -s ' ' 12:47 < praenti> huebi: tr is cool. perhaps with this i can this much easier 12:47 < praenti> ...make... 12:47 < huebi> ps -u huebi | tr -s ' ' | cut -d ' ' -f1,4 12:47 < huebi> 17667 mozilla-bin 12:47 < tcr> huebi: ps -u huebi -o pid,cmd 12:47 < tcr> one command doing the same 12:48 < huebi> tcr: Nice 12:49 < huebi> ps -u huebi -o pid,cmd 12:49 < huebi> 17667 /usr/bin/mozilla-bin 12:49 < huebi> a bit different... 12:50 < praenti> huebi: can i use more SETs with tr? 12:51 < huebi> ps -u huebi | tr -s ' ' | sed 's/^ //' | cut -d ' ' -f1,4 12:51 < huebi> now deleting the first space 12:52 < huebi> so that all process IDs are recogniced 12:52 < praenti> huebi: i used: ps -u cyrus -o pid,cmd | grep master | tr -d ' ' 12:52 < praenti> 286/usr/cyrus/bin/master 12:53 < praenti> and i i wnat to cut after the first / 12:53 < praenti> can cut do a regexp? 12:53 < praenti> i hate typos 12:53 < tcr> #define cut 12:53 < huebi> ps -u cyrus | tr -s ' ' | sed 's/^ //' | cut -d ' ' -f1,4 | grep master 12:54 < tcr> monster command 8) 12:54 < huebi> tcr: No, it's a one line program ... *ggg* 12:54 < owl> moin 12:54 < huebi> moin owl 12:55 < tcr> i count 5processes 12:55 < huebi> kill -HUP `ps -u cyrus | tr -s ' ' | sed 's/^ //' | cut -d ' ' -f1,4 | grep master` 12:55 < tcr> 6 12:56 < huebi> kill -HUP `ps -u cyrus | tr -s ' ' | sed 's/^ //' | cut -d ' ' -f1,4 | grep master` | tee -a cyrus-kill.log 12:56 < tcr> kill -HUP `ps -u cyrus -C master -o pid` 12:56 < praenti> huebi: this is a really monster 12:57 < huebi> kill -HUP `ps -u cyrus | tr -s ' ' | sed 's/^ //' | cut -d ' ' -f1,4 | grep master` | tee -a cyrus-kill.log || mail praent < "Monster did fail!" 12:59 < praenti> tcr: your command would not work. 12:59 < praenti> PID 12:59 < praenti> 286 12:59 < praenti> 430 12:59 < praenti> 7587 12:59 < praenti> 7631 12:59 < huebi> praenti: It look worse than it is. Just cut the tail of the monster to find out _what_ it does 12:59 < huebi> praenti: mine, too 12:59 < huebi> correct version: 13:00 < huebi> kill -HUP `ps -u cyrus | tr -s ' ' | sed 's/^ //' | cut -d ' ' -f1 | grep master` 13:00 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090A6EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:00 < huebi> ^the 4 wass too much 13:01 < praenti> huebi: kill -HUP `ps -u cyrus | tr -s ' ' | sed 's/^ //' | grep master | cut -d ' ' -f1` 13:01 < praenti> this one works 13:02 < huebi> ACK 13:02 < kasc> moinsen 13:03 < huebi> praenti: In mine no 'master' was grepable 13:03 < huebi> tach kasc 13:06 < tcr> kill -HUP `ps -C master -o pid=` # i'm afraid but it seems to be possible to group selection, so this would send a SIGHUP to all master programms and not only those running under `cyrus' 13:06 < tcr> it seems _not_ to be possible 13:07 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958DDF1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:08 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p5081312E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: thalerim!~tobrit@pD958DDF1.dip.t-dialin.net))) 13:08 -!- thalerim is now known as tcr 13:08 < tcr> kill -HUP `ps -C master -o pid=` # i'm afraid but it seems to be possible to group selection, so this would send a SIGHUP to all master programms and not only those running under `cyrus' 13:08 < tcr> it seems _not_ to be possible 13:11 < snyke> killall -u cyrus -SIGHUP 13:11 < snyke> ? 13:14 < praenti> shitt. ok this is working. but i think i need a delay in the skript 13:14 < huebi> snyke: 13:15 < snyke> hm? 13:15 < snyke> I just posted my 2 cents. I don't know what it should do and what not *g* 13:16 < praenti> ok. now it works. *YEAH* 13:17 < praenti> have need this things for the cyrus startup script. cause before i could start more than one master process and this makes my MDA crazy ;-) 13:17 < praenti> now i have a pid 13:17 < praenti> file 13:19 < tcr> and what you needed you that command for? 13:20 < praenti> ok. I'm away now. cu later 13:20 * praenti away 13:20 < tcr> s,you,,1 13:21 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-ls-6-1-dialup-200.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 13:21 < praenti> tcr: i needed a pid-file for the cyrus-master-process. goal was to write the pid in that file after cyrus-master is started 13:22 < tcr> argh 13:23 < praenti> the problem is that cyrus does not check if an instance of him is already running 13:23 < praenti> and a killall -15 master is very dangerous, because postfix main process is also called master 13:24 < tcr> well. you could give the full command name to killall 13:24 < tcr> /usr/local/cyrus/bin/master 13:24 < tcr> or sth 13:25 < praenti> tcr: you are right. but then the script must be edited if you have installed cyrus in an alternative directory 13:25 < praenti> ok. shitt. i must edit this one also, when i satrt the process. 13:26 < praenti> i post the script in #aol 13:27 < praenti> perhaps than it is clear 13:27 < tcr> mom. be right back 13:29 < praenti> snyke: can you look in the #uugi 13:33 * praenti now away 13:35 < snyke> yo 13:35 < tcr> re 13:35 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958DDF1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 14:09 < esden> hi all 14:09 < huebi> moin esden 14:09 < esden> hi huebi 14:13 < esden> hmm ... the cvs server of 1.7 is darn slow 14:14 < esden> ahh it finally finished 14:15 < huebi> esden: when can you send my the cheetah disk? 14:18 < SMP> esden: we'll move the 1.7 anoncvs to the anoncvs.rocklinux.de server 14:19 < SMP> gee. now, someone please give me a clue how to install an 1.7 snapshot from CD ;-O 14:26 < esden> SMP: ahh well to know 14:26 < esden> SMP: do you want to use stone or not ? 14:26 < esden> I have not used stone to install 1.7 yet 14:27 < SMP> hmm, I'm getting a grasp 14:28 < SMP> yes, I could probably just use gem directly 14:28 < SMP> ehm. mine 14:29 < owl> hi esden 14:29 < esden> till now I mounted the cd and started mine so that it installs all the contents of the cd. That worked fine for me till now. Besides the fact that the installation is pretty big then. You can still unisnstall packages afterwords. 14:31 < SMP> can a 4GB filesystem hold a complete 1.7 install? 14:32 < huebi> esden: can you send the disk tomorrow? 14:33 < snyke> esden! 14:33 < esden> snyke: WAS! 14:33 < snyke> :-( 14:34 < snyke> query 14:34 < esden> jaaa ... 14:36 < SMP> STONE - Setup Tool ONE 14:36 < SMP> rofl 14:36 < SMP> I didn't know it was supposed to mean that 14:37 * blindcod1r still waiting for STTWO :) 14:37 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 14:37 < blindcoder> hi all 14:37 < owl> moin blindcoder 14:37 < blindcoder> moin owl 14:38 < SMP> blindcoder: ever heard of ZWEI? 14:39 < blindcoder> just the number... 14:39 < SMP> ZWEI is called ZWEI because Zwei Was Eins Initially 14:39 < SMP> it's some GNU tool afaik 14:40 < blindcoder> i see... 14:43 * blindcoder now off --> scittles 14:45 < SMP> uh-hu 14:45 < SMP> mine doesn't quite work 14:45 < SMP> aeh. s,mine,stone, 14:47 < esden> SMP: that is why I have not used it yet for installing rock ;-) 14:49 < SMP> 6 bugs in 1.7 noted so far 15:23 < th> re 15:27 < huebi> huhu th 15:27 < th> huebi!!! 15:27 < th> du lebst? 15:27 < huebi> th: Jo, und wieder Internet ... 15:28 < huebi> und der stud ist wieder da... 15:29 < th> huebi: mir garnich aufgefallen, dass er weg war ;_ 15:30 < huebi> ...but nobody is in the server room - no new ISO uploads for the moment. Perhaps that can be done later.. 15:30 < th> huebi: read your emails! 15:31 < huebi> th: jo, I'm on that issue since 1/2h 15:31 < th> huebi: so read the last mail first ;) 15:31 < th> huebi: i already committed 15:33 < huebi> th: ok 15:37 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D176.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:37 < th> hi tcr 15:38 < tcr> hi th 15:39 < tcr> th: did you read the short talking between me and masta hueb' taken place this morning? 15:40 < th> no 15:40 < th> at what time? 15:40 < th> *scrolling* 15:41 < tcr> hmm say 12-13 15:43 < th> hmm is should reread my email about this 15:44 < tcr> yay 15:45 < th> huebi: du holst langsam auf ;) 15:46 < th> tcr: the vim-concern is for me... 15:46 < huebi> th: *g* 15:48 < th> i need some time to clarify the openssl upgrade issue 15:49 < tcr> why whats wrong with it? 15:49 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958F720.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:49 < th> might be that it breaks net-snmp 15:49 < tcr> 'might be' 15:49 < tcr> ? 15:50 < th> test builds running 15:50 < tcr> concerning the bug report is just someone needed having flists of all pkgs 15:50 < tcr> bad grammar >_< 15:51 < huebi> tcr: I have all of them 15:51 < th> glibc package provides /usr/sbin/ldconfig ld.so package provides /sbin/ldconfig 15:51 < tcr> hrm. i asked you this question this morning too.. but got no answer :P 15:53 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F2F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15:53 < huebi> tcr: do you want to have all the flists? 15:55 < tcr> nah, mom 15:55 < th> ok. stage [2] started 15:55 < tcr> th is caring about the double existing VIM ? 15:56 < th> tcr: 15:56 < th> aehm 15:56 < th> tcr: yes 15:57 < tcr> for i in vim ldconfig freetype-config loadkeys groups ; do grep bin/$i /var/adm/flists/*; done | mail tobrit@freebits.de 15:57 < tcr> @ huebi 16:07 * -> esden updating glibc on the fly ... >_< 16:07 < esden> whisch me luck 16:07 < esden> i min wish 16:07 < esden> grr ... /me can not type ... 16:08 < esden> that are the nerves ... 16:08 < tcr> gud lack 16:09 < esden> hmm ... till now everything seems to work ... 16:12 < esden> alpha:~/resc# pkg-list | grep glibc 16:12 < esden> glibc 2.3.1 1.7-snapshot 16:12 < esden> sweet 16:21 < huebi> tcr: "Sie haben Post!" 16:27 < huebi> re 16:28 < huebi> hmm, I still have a very unstable connection 16:35 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D176.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 16:40 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD952239E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:40 < huebi> Frohes neues Jahr, bluefire 16:45 < esden> ha ... gcc3 fixed 16:45 < esden> frohes neues bluefire 16:47 < bluefire> frohes Neues Huebi! 16:47 < bluefire> frohes Neues auch esden! 16:49 < esden> hmm ... really strange ... 16:49 < esden> when I try to compile gcc3 with diet ... it is only fscking around >_< 17:11 < huebi> esden: I talked to a freind for a serial terminal interface for the LCD panel. Later with optional PC-keyboard connector 17:11 < huebi> esden: have you any interest in that? 17:13 < huebi> it's a separate pcb with an Atmel controller on it to be connectet to the normal panel 17:13 < huebi> brb 17:31 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17:34 -!- hoho [~hoho@dhcp024-210-222-139.woh.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux 17:50 -!- chrisime_ [~chrisime@p50802A5C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:51 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p5080257C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Success) 17:58 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 17:58 < armijn> re 18:03 < blindcod1r> rehi 18:04 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 18:22 < huebi> moin armijn 18:25 < huebi> armijn: How are you? 18:43 < huebi> th: Ping 18:46 -!- transacid [~PetersenB@AC8EEC8B.ipt.aol.com] has joined #rocklinux 18:50 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082B64D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:50 < tsa> hi 18:57 -!- dennis [dennis@pD9E4D14A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:57 < dennis> hi 19:07 -!- transacid [~PetersenB@AC8EEC8B.ipt.aol.com] has quit ("Cya soon!!") 19:12 < owl> *yawn* good morning/re 19:17 < armijn> hwh 19:18 < armijn> as in, heh 19:18 < armijn> huebi: I'm fine... 19:19 * armijn off 19:20 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux () 19:26 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812FA3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:28 < tcr> huebi and th: I'm fixing the double-existing ldconfig bug right now 19:28 < huebi> tcr: great :-) 19:29 < tcr> i decided to keep the glibc's one since this version is much newer and it's published under a beater copyright 19:29 < tcr> beater->better 19:29 < esden> fscking dhcp !!! 19:29 < esden> uuuhhmm ... I mean gcc3 ! 19:29 * -> esden is confused ... 19:30 < huebi> tcr: ACK. We'll see if it works fine then. Is it the one normaly first in $PATH? 19:30 < huebi> esden <- Starts to think like glibc is writen... :> 19:30 < tcr> hm unfortunately there is no ldconfig.8 manpage in the glibc tarball :-/ so I'm currently searching for a good download location of the old version of the manpage that has been modified to fit to the new version 19:31 < tcr> huebi: nope, it's not. But it's completely compatible to the old version 19:31 < esden> huebi: not only how glibc is written ... but also as buggy as dietlibc is ;-) 19:31 < huebi> O_o_. 19:32 < esden> huebi: what is this ? 19:33 < huebi> esden: an O_o concentrating in a dot 19:33 < esden> wow ... sweet 19:34 < esden> ok ... then I have only to writ "." now ... instead of "O_o" 19:34 < esden> cool ;-) 19:34 < huebi> hehe ;-) 19:34 < huebi> 17:11 < huebi> esden: I talked to a freind for a serial terminal interface for the LCD panel. Later with optional PC-keyboard connector 19:34 < huebi> 17:11 < huebi> esden: have you any interest in that? 19:34 < huebi> 17:13 < huebi> it's a separate pcb with an Atmel controller on it to be connectet to the normal panel 19:35 < esden> hmm .. interesting 19:36 < huebi> esden: it coould also be powered from the keyboard or USB connector 19:36 < huebi> "MicroTerm" 19:36 < esden> ehhm .. I do not believe that ... 19:36 < esden> then you have to turn of the backlight 19:37 < esden> the usb connector could have enough power 19:37 < esden> but not the keyboard connector 19:37 < huebi> the keyboard should deliver at leastr 1A 19:38 < huebi> That was the size of the fuse I replaced a long time ago 19:38 < esden> uhm ... 19:38 < esden> a fuse where ? 19:38 < huebi> on the mainboard 19:40 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 19:40 < armijn> re 19:40 < huebi> re armijn 19:40 < esden> huebi: the fuses are different on all mainboards 19:40 < esden> that is the problem 19:40 < esden> on some mainboards it may work well 19:41 < esden> but when you connect it to others it can destroy your chipset 19:41 < armijn> hi huebi, esden 19:41 < huebi> esden: What is the maximum power consumption of the panel? 19:41 < armijn> the powersupply of my alpha went dead...also killed the harddisk 19:41 < huebi> armijn: Argh. Bad luck. 19:42 < armijn> yeah...and it isn't even mine... 19:42 < armijn> I gotta find a new powersupply pretty soon... 19:42 < armijn> need to get some work done (no, no ROCK work) 19:44 < tsa> hehe 19:44 < esden> huebi: I do not know it by hard 19:44 < esden> hi armijn ! 19:44 < esden> so by the way ;-) 19:44 < esden> happy new year 19:45 -!- Esco [~Esco@pD900E035.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:45 < armijn> esden: indeed :) 19:45 < armijn> oh, and I got a PowerPC now... 19:45 < armijn> it's old and crappy and it will only run AIX 19:46 < esden> armijn: have fun with it ;-) 19:46 < huebi> armijn: Do you want to have some more? 19:46 < armijn> huebi: let me guess, with MCA? 19:47 < huebi> I don't know. But the price will be about 20 EUR 19:47 < tsa> hm... 19:47 < tsa> anyone familar with AT&T UNIX? 19:47 < tsa> System V Release 4 Version 2.1 19:47 < armijn> huebi: got specs? 19:47 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:48 < huebi> moin Ge0rG 19:48 < huebi> moin tsa 19:48 < tsa> hi huebi 19:48 < Ge0rG> hiho 19:49 < tsa> (i got the at&t unix at 19c3 - it's 30 floppy images and i don't really know what i can do with it, which arch it is for, etc..) 19:49 < huebi> armijn: ~200MHz >=32MB RAM no drives, midi tower case, IDE on board, linux boots from network (nic on board), SCSI 53C852 IIRC. 19:49 < tsa> oh a readme! 19:50 < tsa> *ARGH* 19:50 < tsa> AT&T UNIX System V Release 4 Version 2.1 19:50 < tcr> tsa: i know one having it run for sometime IIRC 19:50 < tsa> Description: 19:50 < tsa> It's UNIX. If you need more info, you don't need this Operating System. 19:50 < tsa> *rotfl* 19:50 < tcr> tsa is a unix wannabe, right :P 19:50 < tsa> tcr: :-P 19:51 * tsa just being curious what this thing might do.. 19:51 < armijn> huebi: sounds nice 19:51 < armijn> huebi: how will you distribute them? 19:51 < huebi> tsa: It'll unix you. very deep and hard. 19:52 < tsa> huebi: i wonder if it would run at all..the floppy images are all dated january 92.. 19:52 -!- owl [~mail-spam@otdial-212-144-110-235.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("restarting proxy") 19:52 < tcr> huebi: hmm. how do I rename a file via cvs? 19:52 < huebi> armijn: I ordered 10 of them. If I got them I can deliver them as mail packet e.g. 19:53 < armijn> huebi: not planning to take them to FOSDEM? 19:53 < esden> ping blindcoder 19:53 < huebi> tcr: rewrite cvs first ;> cvs rm <oldfilename> ; cvs add <newfilename> 19:54 < tcr> oh .. hehe. ok thnx 19:54 < huebi> tcr: you can not directly rename them. 19:54 < huebi> armijn: When is FOSDEM? 19:55 < esden> ccache is really usefull 19:55 < armijn> huebi: february, in brussels 19:55 < huebi> hmm.... 19:56 < huebi> I don't think that I'll be there but I can send ripclaw *g* 19:57 < armijn> with a powerpc? 19:57 < huebi> jo. 19:57 < armijn> well, I happen to know someone who'd love to have one... 19:57 < huebi> All cars of ripclaw are officially trucks. 19:58 < armijn> and he's coming from the UK to FOSDEM by train... 19:58 < armijn> trucks? not even tanks? 19:58 < huebi> VW never produced tanks. 19:58 * -> esden be back in 10 mins 19:59 < armijn> huebi: ah, ok... 20:00 < huebi> armijn: If I got the boxes I send you a mail. 20:00 < armijn> huebi: when do you expect them/ 20:00 < huebi> in 1 or 2 weeks 20:02 < armijn> huebi: I will bother you in 1 to 2 weeks then :) 20:02 < armijn> are they heavy? 20:02 < huebi> I don't think so. 20:03 < huebi> 10Kg or so, nbut we'll see it 20:03 < armijn> ok 20:04 < armijn> it's not for me...my parents would kill me... 20:11 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:11 < owl> re 20:11 < hoho> anyone speak dutch here? 20:12 < armijn> hoho: depends... 20:12 < hoho> know what maatstaaf means? 20:12 < tcr> huebi: still here? 20:12 < armijn> I do... 20:12 < huebi> tcr: Yes. 20:13 < hoho> armijn: I should have known that from your nick 20:13 < armijn> hoho: hehe 20:13 < hoho> know what maatstaaf means? 20:13 < armijn> hoho: yes, I do...looking for a translation 20:14 < tcr> huebi: i just took a look at ld.so.conf and the pkg seems only to be there to copy ldconfig and manapges of ldd and ldconfig 20:14 < tcr> huebi: it really looks like we could get rid of ld.so 20:14 < armijn> hoho: what's the context? 20:15 < hoho> armijn: none :) 20:15 < tcr> i only no maastrich 20:15 < tcr> know 20:15 < hoho> or at least none that I understand 20:15 < armijn> hoho: it's only used in sayings... 20:15 < armijn> tcr: masstrichT 20:15 < armijn> ehr, maastricht that is 20:15 < hoho> hmm 20:16 < tcr> well, the t isnt spoken :P so please forgive me this mistake, oh armijn :) 20:16 < armijn> tcr: depends on whom you talk to... 20:17 < tcr> hmm well at least we dont speak it 20:22 < armijn> hehe 20:22 < armijn> am off again 20:22 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux () 20:22 < huebi> cu aszlig 20:22 < huebi> hmmpf 20:24 < tcr> so huebi? what's about ld.so 20:25 < huebi> tcr: remove it, please. I'll start a new build tonight and tomorrow we can test if all work right without the package. 20:26 < tcr> hmm. oki 20:27 < tcr> huebi: if I remove it with cvs rm, will the package be recovered later? 20:27 < tcr> s,will,can, 20:27 < huebi> tcr: Yes, it will/can. 20:28 < owl> ROCKLinux 20:28 < owl> ROCKLinux 20:28 < owl> ROCKLinux 20:28 < owl> ROCKLinux 20:28 < owl> ROCKLinux 20:28 < owl> ROCKLinux 20:28 < owl> ROCKLinux 20:28 < owl> ah... sorry 20:28 -!- Esco [~Esco@pD900E035.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:36 < huebi> tcr: There must have been a reason why this package was added to ROCK Linux... 20:39 < tcr> well i havent removed so far. will eat now then take a look again 20:42 -!- Esco [~Esco@pD900E035.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:43 -!- chrisime_ [~chrisime@p50802A5C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Connection timed out) 20:43 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p508027B4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:46 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p508027B4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Client Quit) 20:47 < tcr> re 20:48 < dennis> wb 20:50 < tcr> huebi: ? 20:51 < huebi> tcr: Yes? 20:51 < tcr> huebi: as the .conf shows it just creates /etc/ld.so.conf (which could be moved to glibc.conf) and the installing of ldconfig and of two manpages 20:52 < huebi> tcr: let's remove and test it then. 20:52 < huebi> brb 20:52 < tcr> ok will do that 20:53 < huebi> ok 21:03 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has joined #rocklinux 21:08 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p508020EF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:12 -!- Esco [~Esco@pD900E035.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21:18 < esden> re 21:18 < owl> wb esden 21:18 < esden> hi owl 21:25 < blindcoder> reeeeeeeehi 21:25 < tcr> huebi: ? 21:25 < owl> wb blindcoder 21:30 < th> re 21:30 < th> huebi: pnong 21:30 < th> oups 21:31 * hoho is so bored 21:31 < esden> hoho hoho 21:31 < hoho> `lo esden 21:35 -!- Be-El [be-el@pD9525828.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:35 < Be-El> hi ppl 21:35 < tsa> hi Be-El 21:36 < Be-El> tsa: du kannst mir doch sicherlich sagen, wo und wie die environment-variablen der chroot konfiguriert werden ;-) 21:36 < esden> hi Be-El 21:37 < tsa> Be-El: scripts/parse-config 21:37 < Be-El> qt applications depend on $QTDIR...and it is not set to the right directory in the build tree 21:45 < tcr> Be-El: scripts/make-env 21:46 < tcr> that is respoinsible for the env vars 21:46 < Be-El> tcr: yes, but the configuration has to be written by ./scripts/Config, since qt may not be available at all, e.g. after disabling the package 21:47 < tcr> yeah make-env is just the lowest level 21:47 < tcr> btw. are talking about 1.7 or 1.6? 21:47 < Be-El> 1.7 ;-) 21:48 < tcr> ok, then i'm out 21:49 < Be-El> the way dependencies are handled in 1.7 should be change IMHO 21:49 < Be-El> if you disable a single package, all depending packages should be auto-disabled, too 21:51 < tcr> well this would mean to write all packages that are depentant on a pkg in its .cache file 21:51 < tcr> otherwise it'd be a pain in the ass to grep the whole packages/ directory 21:51 < tcr> hmm, well. 21:52 < Be-El> tcr: we got scripts/deb_db.txt... 21:52 < Be-El> tcr: it's jsut a matter of using the information stored in there 21:52 < tcr> well, then feel free to modify scripts/Config 21:53 < Be-El> i would like to...but i don't think most people around would like the scripts to start with #!/usr/bin/env perl ;-) 21:56 < tcr> hm? 21:57 < Be-El> it's been a long time since i did some bash programming... 21:58 < tsa> Be-El: time to try it again, then? ;) 21:59 < Be-El> oh nooo ;-) 22:00 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:01 < tsa> hehe 22:09 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-ls-6-1-dialup-200.freesurf.ch] has quit () 22:12 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD952239E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 22:12 < tcr> huebi || th !!!!! 22:14 < th> tcr: ack 22:15 < tcr> cvs server: failed to create lock directory for `/home/rockcvs/cvs/CVSROOT/Emptydir' (/home/rockcvs/cvs/CVSROOT/Emptydir/#cvs.lock): Permission denied 22:15 < th> hmm 22:16 < th> visiting world 22:16 < tcr> i'm about removing base-config/ld.so/ it has been made obsolete by me 22:16 < th> ouhm 22:17 < th> hope you won't break anything by this 22:17 < th> hmmm 22:17 < th> you need write access to Emptydir/ ?? 22:17 < th> this is somewhat strange 22:18 < th> sure about this? 22:18 < th> tcr: aehm 22:18 < th> tcr: you can't remove a directory 22:19 < tcr> hmm?? 22:19 < th> what are you trying? 22:20 < tcr> cvs -d tcr@cvs.rocklinux.de:/home/rockcvs/cvs rm base-config/ld.so/ 22:20 < tcr> should I use base-config/ld.so/* instead? but won't then the dir base-config/ld.so/ remain? 22:20 < th> forget about this 22:20 < th> remove all files instead 22:20 < th> it is not possible to delete a direcotry 22:20 < huebi> re Moep! 22:20 < th> hey huebi 22:20 < tcr> so ld.so/* ? 22:21 < th> tcr: cd ld.so ; rm * ; cvs remove [files] 22:21 < tcr> hm 22:21 < tcr> ok 22:22 < Be-El> you need to delete the files, commit the delete, delete the directory and commit it 22:22 < huebi> tcr: you need to name every single file with "cvs rm" 22:22 < tcr> should I remove the CVS directory too`? Or does it contain any important information needed by cvs rm? 22:22 < th> Be-El: NAK 22:22 < th> tcr: just delete the files 22:22 < th> tcr: then do a cvs rm on them 22:23 < th> tcr: leave CVS as it is 22:23 < tcr> ah XD damnit! 22:23 < tcr> i removed the files but don't know how they were named XD 22:23 < huebi> with a "cvs up -dP" all empty directories are deleted and all new derectories are created. 22:24 < huebi> tcr: make a "cvs up" in that directory 22:24 < tcr> pfff. that's crap. 22:24 < tcr> cvs is fucking mysterious ;) 22:24 < huebi> tcr: hehe 22:24 < huebi> *LOOOOL* 22:25 * huebi needed only 2 months for the basics 22:25 < huebi> of cvs 22:25 < th> tcr: first do a rm [filenames] and then a cvs !! 22:25 < th> "!!" is replaced by last command 22:25 < th> so yu have cvs rm [filenames] 22:26 < huebi> tcr: after the "cvs up" delete the files with "rm [filename} {filneame]" 22:26 < huebi> th ack 22:27 < tcr> hmm 22:27 < huebi> tcr: cvs needs some tries and many errors to understand it. It's not very intentional as other software often is. 22:29 < tcr> /building/rock-1.5-cvs/base-config/ld.so $ for i in *; do if [ -f $i ]; then echo -- $i --; rm -f $i; cvs -d tcr@cvs.rocklinux.de:/home/rockcvs/cvs rm $i; fi; done 22:29 < tcr> -- no-ldd.patch -- 22:29 < tcr> cvs server: scheduling `no-ldd.patch' for removal 22:29 < tcr> cvs server: use 'cvs commit' to remove this file permanently 22:29 < tcr> that's it. odd 22:30 < tcr> all files were removed though 22:30 < huebi> https://ftp.cvshome.org/cvs-1.11.3/cederqvist-1.11.3.pdf <- This is the cvs bible - it was and still is very helpfull, at least for me 22:30 < Be-El> yeah... cvs rm and cvs commit...you need both 22:30 < tcr> hm 22:30 < tcr> i think i've done anything wrong. I havent comitted so far 22:31 < th> so you can still rm -rf and cvs up -d again 22:31 < tcr> ok 22:35 < tcr> cd base-config/ld.so ; rm *; cvs !! <- is that right? (assumed that CVSROOT etc is set properly) 22:35 < th> no 22:35 < th> you dont need to set CVSROOT btw 22:36 < th> and cvs !! replaces to cvs rm * 22:36 < th> andf that wont function 22:36 < th> cause files are already gone 22:36 < huebi> 22:22 < huebi> tcr: you need to name every single file with "cvs rm" 22:36 < th> so * doesnt match anything but CVS 22:36 < tcr> ough >_< yeah 22:36 < th> yu can rm [each filename] ; cvs !! 22:38 < th> ok 22:39 < th> i'm off again 22:39 < tcr> ah 22:39 < tcr> thanks 22:39 < huebi> cu th 22:39 < tcr> now just committing and everything is fine 22:39 < th> tcr: i still think your openssl update broke net-snmp 22:39 < th> tcr: current build seems to go fine 22:39 < th> tcr: (with downgraded openssl) 22:40 < th> i'll check that tomorrow 22:40 < huebi> th: net-snmp seems to be oputdated 22:40 < tcr> if it's just net-snmp, then nothing says against the update 22:41 < tcr> i think net-snmp should be fixable 22:41 < huebi> tcr: I update net-snmp to 5.0.6 or 5.0.7pre2 22:41 < th> a pre?? 22:42 < snyke> hmm 22:42 < th> hmmm 22:42 < snyke> esden - fake? 22:42 < esden> snyke: ... 22:42 < snyke> ah 22:42 < th> anyways builds are running and i'm poff 22:42 < th> aehm 22:42 < th> s,poff,off, 22:42 < tcr> POFF - the magic dragon!!! 22:42 < huebi> th: gute Nacht 22:42 < huebi> :-) 22:42 < th> danke huebi 22:43 < esden> n8 th 22:43 < snyke> n8 th 22:43 < snyke> esden: query 22:50 < huebi> tcr: It seems that you have removed successfully ld.so in cvs 22:51 < tcr> i hope so 22:52 < tcr> writing an email now 22:59 < tcr> ok 23:02 < tcr> going sleeping now, gn8 all 23:02 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812FA3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 23:10 < rolla> re 23:12 < huebi> hi rolla 23:13 < rolla> how is it going? huebi 23:14 < huebi> rolla: fine. Today much work on 1.6 was done. I'll start a test build in aboiut an hour. 23:14 < rolla> cool 23:17 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has joined #rocklinux 23:18 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has quit (Client Quit) 23:18 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has joined #rocklinux 23:23 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 23:29 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: owl_!~owl@aszlig.net))) 23:29 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:29 < owl> re 23:29 < huebi> hi owl --- Log closed Mon Jan 06 00:00:43 2003