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--- Log opened Fri Jan 17 00:00:05 2003 --- Day changed Fri Jan 17 2003 00:00 < Be-El> testing bison patch.... 00:04 < Be-El> *wait* 00:05 < Be-El> patch profed to solve the problem for me [tm] 00:05 < Be-El> sending patch 00:05 < Be-El> lalalala 00:06 < tsa_> hehehe 00:09 < Be-El> i should stop preparing patches after 0 o'clock...they are definitly not the usualy patch quality 00:13 -!- simon-- is now known as simon 00:20 < owl> <-- trying to sleep again 00:20 < owl> gn8 00:20 < holyolli> n8 owl 00:21 < Be-El> cu owl 00:39 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p50817550.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 00:50 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-178-55.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("X-Chat: Just do it like Nike... BEEATCH!") 01:01 < Be-El> cu 01:02 < tsa_> n8 Be-El 01:02 -!- Be-El [~be-el@pD9E11398.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 02:38 < tsa_> n8 02:39 -!- tsa_ is now known as tsa|afk 03:43 -!- rolla_rock [~Der@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit ("leaving") 05:00 -!- SLACKo [sheriff@62.114.146.90] has quit ("[x]chat") 05:01 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Der Sinn des Lebens ist die Suche nach eben jenem.") 06:41 -!- demian [~hdw_user@196.40.64.212] has joined #rocklinux 06:41 < demian> hi 07:18 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD9E4F9DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:18 < demian> blindcoder 07:20 < blindcoder> moin demian 07:21 * blindcoder will be offline for the weekend due to a destructive badblocks-scan on his router's system harddisk and reinstallation 07:22 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090A6D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:23 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090A31A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:44 -!- demian is now known as tito 07:46 -!- tito is now known as demian 07:54 < demian> cya 07:54 -!- demian [~hdw_user@196.40.64.212] has left #rocklinux () 08:32 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs4.xs4all.nl] has quit ("leaving") 08:36 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs4.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 08:41 < ringo30> morgen all(e) 08:44 < blindcoder> moin ringo30 09:07 < owl> hi all 09:10 < blindcoder> moin owl 09:11 < owl> hi blindcoder 09:21 < Lorini_> moin 09:21 < owl> hi Lorini_ 09:21 < blindcoder> moin Lorini_ 09:23 < [anders]> lo.. 09:23 < [anders]> morning blindcoder, owl 09:24 < blindcoder> hi [anders] 09:24 < owl> hi [anders] 09:25 < [anders]> *yawn* 09:25 < [anders]> I have had a good 8 hours sleep and I still feel tired as heck.. what is wrong with me... 09:28 < blindcoder> [anders]: maybe you slept _too_ long 09:29 < blindcoder> but who am I to talk after almost 12 hours in bed 09:30 < [anders]> hehehe.. Well, I have been tired for the last week or so, and it has felt like I have not had enough sleep every morning I have woken up. It is almost as if my sleep keeps on getting interrupted so I never geta full nights sleep.. 09:32 < blindcoder> hmm.... I kinda know how that is... dreamt of my first gf two nights ago (again >_<) and woke up about once every two hours 09:32 < blindcoder> after such a night yuo feel like someone was using you as a dancefloor 09:33 < blindcoder> and it's even worse if your throat is infected >_< 09:34 -!- Lorini_ [~andrea@p3EE219C3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 09:35 -!- Lorini [~andrea@p3EE219C3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #RockLinux 09:35 < blindcoder> btw: didn't anyone ever think of adding PPPoE to ROCK? 09:37 < [anders]> blindcoder: I know the feeling.. I am starting to get a sore throat and a dry cough.. which is getting quite annoying now.. 09:38 < blindcoder> [anders]: Hmm... better conlust a doctor... it's not nice to be hardly able to speak 09:38 < blindcoder> as I was on WednesDay andstill Thursday morning 09:38 < kasc> blindcoder: hot lemon helps as long as its still beginning ;) 09:38 < blindcoder> kasc: thanks, I'll keep that in mind for next time :) 09:39 < blindcoder> hi kasc btw :) 09:39 * [anders] is trying to drink lots of water... preferably luke-warm.. 09:39 < [anders]> easier to drink it that way.. I should probably slow down on the amount of coffee I have as well.. two tripple espressos a day is getting a little much.. 09:40 < blindcoder> hmm... 09:40 * blindcoder only drinking one can per work-day 09:42 < kasc> hiyas :) 09:43 < kasc> drinking a lot always helps, too ;) 09:44 * blindcoder drinking about two to three cans of tea with honey since wednesday 09:46 < kasc> what about fresh air? 09:46 < blindcoder> I open the windown once a day for 30 minutes :) 09:46 < blindcoder> THE windows, not Windows :) 09:47 < kasc> hehe 09:47 < kasc> i meant more something like going outside and stuff ;) 09:47 < blindcoder> Hmm... I could take my dog for a walk, but since I got major headaches just from standing up yesterday I didn't do it 09:49 < kasc> walking outside usually helps with headaches, unless its raining cats and dogs or other depressing weather 09:50 < blindcoder> "It's raining cats and dogs" - "How do you know?" - "I just stepped on a poodle" :) 09:50 < blindcoder> No, really: Blue Sky and sunshine 09:50 < blindcoder> If I can get myself to putting on some clothes I probably will 09:50 < kasc> hehe 09:50 < blindcoder> toke my dog out for a walk 09:51 < blindcoder> brb, need to change some mounts (/home for one thing) 09:51 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD9E4F9DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("brb") 09:59 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p508010E6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:59 < blindcoder> rehi 10:00 < fake> hmmm.. 10:00 < fake> morning 10:00 < fake> why am i missing /dev/fd ? 10:00 < fake> and /dev/fd/*, unfortunatley 10:01 < blindcoder> /dev/fd is just a symlink, isn't it? 10:02 < blindcoder> blindcoder@crazyhorse:~$ ls -l /dev/fd 10:02 < blindcoder> lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 13 Jan 16 10:52 /dev/fd -> /proc/self/fd 10:04 < fake> well, i know, but why is that symlink missing? 10:05 < blindcoder> hmm... 10:05 < fake> hm... maybe i should start devfsd ? ;) 10:05 < blindcoder> might help :) 10:06 < fake> on debian... *yuck* 10:06 < fake> but my 2nd-stage system works like a bliss... 10:06 < fake> i love mips ;) 10:06 < blindcoder> nice :) 10:06 * blindcoder will now build a K6-2 Iso and then destroy all data on his router's system disk 10:07 < fake> yeah... after strating devfsd it's there 10:07 < fake> hm 10:07 < fake> strange 10:09 < fake> blindcoder: i happily did that to my cinema yesterday 10:09 < fake> the new install stone is really cute 10:09 < fake> now anybody can install rock 10:09 < fake> its _really_ great 10:09 < blindcoder> fake: but not because of several thousand(!) bad blocks, did you? 10:09 < fake> well, yes, they were all bad, because they carried debian *g* 10:09 < blindcoder> I have >3000 bad blocks on my router's system disk 10:10 < blindcoder> and they all carried ROCK :) 10:11 < fake> ts ts ts. 10:11 < fake> how dare they... ? ;) 10:11 < blindcoder> well, it's an evil disk :) 10:12 < fake> i'm curious wether stage 2 will work now that i have /dev/fd/62... 10:12 < fake> aw 10:12 < fake> gonna fix the kernel first ;) 10:16 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:16 < esden> hi all 10:17 < fake> hi esden! 10:17 < esden> I have all apollo data on DLT 10:17 < esden> OFYI ;-) 10:17 < fake> esden: how did you manage to kill my IRC session, but to keep the uptime? 10:17 < fake> init S ? 10:18 < esden> init 1 ... I had to shutdown everything that is changing data 10:18 < fake> ok, cool 10:18 < fake> ;) 10:18 < esden> so I have a consistent backup 10:19 < fake> than i may delete your file on navi? 10:19 < esden> yes 10:19 < fake> mkay. 10:19 < blindcoder> hi esden 10:19 < fake> *drrdrrdrrdrr* 10:19 < esden> thanks for keeping it a while 10:19 < esden> hi blindcoder 10:19 < fake> no pro... (disk space makes fake happy) 10:20 < esden> fake: you are working for disk space ? 10:20 < esden> blindcoder, fake: how are you today, anyways ? 10:21 < fake> i'm fine - cobalt reached stage 2, chroot works like a bliss 10:21 < fake> only minor devfs problems 10:21 < blindcoder> esden: better, thanks. My head stopped exponding in different ways at the same time, but my throat still isn't what it used to be 10:21 < fake> esden: maybe you could have a look at the .err of dietlibc on mips... sometime? 10:22 < esden> fake: please send it to me 10:22 < fake> it's one of the 2 pkgs that failed up to now ;) 10:22 < fake> esden: i am currently... "generating" a .err file *g* 10:22 < esden> lool 10:22 < esden> ok I look forward to it ;-) 10:23 < fake> it's real fun working on that cobalt 10:23 < fake> she is robust... 10:23 < esden> what do you mean with robust? 10:24 < fake> 10:25:15 up 10 days, 17:39, 1 user, load average: 1.22, 1.15, 0.65 10:24 < fake> never had that on SGI 10:25 < esden> was it dying so often ? 10:27 < esden> ahh ... I remember you had the serial console problem ... right ? 10:30 < blindcoder> esden: when will apollo get his new IP-Adress? 10:33 < esden> hmm ... 10:33 < fake> esden: yes. close minicom and the machine dies ;) 10:33 < fake> but that was predictable... 10:33 < esden> I think I should add it ... now ... or has someone objections against it ? 10:33 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p508010E6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("reboot") 10:34 < esden> fake: were there other problems ? 10:34 < fake> esden: if you don't mess it up, i'm fine with it ;) 10:34 < esden> kk 10:34 < fake> esden: sure. 10:34 < esden> hmm ... but now you have your sweet cobalt ;-) 10:47 < fake> esden: you .err-file is ready 10:47 < fake> gcc: pic-mips/dyn_syscalls.o: No such file or directory 10:51 < fake> esden: mail sent 10:53 < esden> fake: thanks 10:54 < fake> for giving you work? well... if you like that... ;) 10:55 < esden> ohh ... the fix is easy ... disable building dynamic dietlibc for mips ... that is all for now. I will have to take a deeper look to fix it "propperly" 10:56 < fake> kewl 10:56 < fake> how do i do that? ;) 10:57 < esden> - if [ "$arch" = arm -o "$arch" = ia32 -o "$arch" = mips ] ; then 10:57 < esden> + if [ "$arch" = arm -o "$arch" = ia32 ] ; then 10:57 < esden> in ./package/base/dietlibc/dietlibc.conf 10:57 < fake> in dietlibc.conf ? 10:57 < fake> okay 10:57 < fake> thanks 10:57 < esden> denada 10:57 < esden> I hope it works then 10:57 < fake> i'll let my kernel finish (2 hrs), then i'll try 10:58 < esden> lol, k 10:58 < fake> i'll send a bunch of mips-patches tonight 10:59 < esden> cool 11:00 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p50800C2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:00 < blindcoder> re 11:01 < esden> re blindcoder 11:01 < blindcoder> hmm.. If I had thought about it a bit I could have built the Anime-Disk into my workstation whil both machines were offline >_< 11:26 < esden> fake: please inform me if the fix worked 11:35 -!- Be-El [~blinke@cab.Genetik.Uni-Bielefeld.DE] has joined #rocklinux 11:35 < Be-El> hi ppl 11:36 < owl> hi Be-El 11:40 < blindcoder> hmm... quite a lot of programs con't handle clock skews... 11:42 < Be-El> blindcoder: clock skews during building or running them ? 11:42 < blindcoder> Be-El: running 11:42 < blindcoder> tkpppoe, mldonkey, donitor are the ones that just caught my attention 11:43 < Be-El> these programs rely on timestamps 11:43 < blindcoder> but now I'm going to get myself something to eat, bbl 11:43 < blindcoder> Be-El: not timestamps I think 11:43 < blindcoder> but on a strange(correct?) implementation of sleep(); I think 11:44 < Be-El> either sleep() or they use the systemtime to synchronize actions 11:44 < blindcoder> for example: tkpppoe has a runtime-graph htat shows trafficb going through the PPP-Connection 11:44 < blindcoder> and when I do a ntpdate <server> while it is doing so, it hangs until the time that the graph was updated last is reached again 11:44 < blindcoder> (this means ~60 minutes here) 11:45 < blindcoder> oh well, could be worse I think ): 11:45 * blindcoder now off --> eating 11:45 * -> esden -> hunting 11:46 * Be-El --> mensa 12:06 < fake> first mail sent.. 12:24 < Be-El> re 12:24 < fake> re. 12:27 < fake> == 01/17/03 12:27:47 =[0]=> Finished building package dietlibc. 12:27 < fake> esden: thanks 13:13 < fake> aw. i know why stage 3 makes problems. 13:13 < fake> *phew* nothing serious 13:15 * fake hiding 13:19 * fake unhiding ;P 13:19 < owl> aeh? 13:19 < Lorini> hi everybody 13:20 < owl> hi Lorini 13:20 < fake> hi Lorini ! 13:54 < blindcoder> blech! what a screwed way to start the weekend 13:55 < owl> blindcoder? 13:56 < blindcoder> owl: a nice "Loveletter" frem the "Bundeswehr": "Musterung" at the 04.02.2003 13:56 < owl> shit.. 13:57 < blindcoder> Well, as I look right now I'm htat they will lay me off almost instantly :D 13:57 < blindcoder> I mean, 30 kilos overweight... 14:05 < owl> dead. 14:05 < owl> <-- killed by music 14:23 < esden> finally owl is dead !!! cool ! 14:25 * -> esden -> home 14:27 < Be-El> .oO ( alles jungspunde hier ;-) ) 14:31 < fake> Be-El: well, i am proud of it ;) 14:31 < fake> j/k 14:36 < rolla> re 14:43 < owl> hi rolla 14:50 < owl> *ARGH* c# is horrible! 14:54 < rolla> c# is not a lang :( 14:56 < owl> c# what is it? something like sh**? 14:57 < rolla> close 14:57 < rolla> :) 14:57 < rolla> why are you messing with it owl? 14:57 < owl> hm. 14:57 < owl> cuz my fscking company wants me to do so 14:58 < owl> this is all such a sh**. i cannot tell ya how painful it is... 14:59 < owl> it compiles! i can't believe my eyes! 15:00 < rolla> :) 15:01 < rolla> yeah I have a copy of that around here somwhere 15:01 < rolla> but it won't load on my linux box 15:02 < owl> haha. you mean VS.NET? 15:22 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs4.xs4all.nl] has quit ("leaving") 15:27 < rolla> yes 15:41 -!- Lorini [~andrea@p3EE219C3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 15:48 < owl> uff 15:48 < blindcoder> hmL\ 15:48 < blindcoder> ? 15:49 < blindcoder> owl: what do you want to tell us? 15:57 < owl> blindcoder: that was the answer to rolla's "yes" 15:58 < blindcoder> oh... what a round-trip : 15:58 < blindcoder> ) 16:01 < owl> round trip? why this? 16:02 < rolla> ? 16:03 < owl> rolla: ??? 16:04 < owl> <-- confused like hell today 16:05 < blindcoder> owl: no comment :) 16:07 < owl> blindcoder! 16:07 < blindcoder> owl! 16:07 < rolla> nothing Owl just causing trouble 16:08 < owl> tss... 16:08 < owl> urgs... i have hunger... and no breakfast yet... dammit 16:09 < blindcoder> hmm... I had some soup all day... 16:10 < owl> aeh? why all day? 16:20 < blindcoder> hmm... schlecht ausgedrueckt... all I had was some soup today 16:21 < blindcoder> hmm... anyone successfully running a ROCK-cempiled MySQL 4 server? 16:22 < fake> jep 16:25 < blindcoder> fake: how? it just keeps segfaulting just after I started it 16:25 < blindcoder> fake: I've now tried it on K6-2 and Pentium4 16:28 < fake> blindcoder 16:28 < fake> blindcoder: i am running it on my notebook quite fine 16:29 < fake> blindcoder: had some trouble first with some file permissions, but that was my stupidity ;) 16:29 < blindcoder> file permissions are all on mysql.mysql 644 (+x where necessary) 16:30 < blindcoder> ut it also happens when I remove all databases from /var/opt/mysql 16:30 < blindcoder> if I install a precompiled version from mysql.org then it works just fine 16:34 < fake> hum *shrugs* 16:37 < blindcoder> brb 16:38 < owl> <-- train 16:38 < owl> ciao. bbl 16:44 -!- tsa|afk is now known as tsa 16:44 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082B560.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: tsa!~tsa@p5082B560.dip.t-dialin.net))) 16:44 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082B560.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:44 < tsa> ups. 16:51 < blindcoder> re 17:12 < rolla> so has anyone fixed screen yet? 17:14 < blindcoder> rolla: is it broken _again_ ? 17:14 < rolla> allways has been 17:15 -!- Mike1 [mike@rocklinux.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:15 < rolla> I try and run anything with colors and it locks up 17:15 < Be-El> rolla: what is your $TERM setting ? 17:15 < rolla> mom 17:16 < rolla> damnit fscking ircnet 17:16 < rolla> I am going to kill their servers grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 17:16 -!- Mike1 [mike@rocklinux.de] has quit (Client Quit) 17:16 < blindcoder> rolla: I remembar that being fixed ages ago... 17:16 < rolla> what is ages ago 17:16 < blindcoder> mom, I'll search that post 17:16 < blindcoder> s/post/mail/ 17:17 < rolla> screen 17:17 < Be-El> it was related to wrong $TERM settings 17:17 < rolla> \maisenhe@maisenhelder:~$ echo $TERM 17:18 < rolla> screen 17:18 < blindcoder> https://www.rocklinux.org//mailing-list/rock-linux/2002-10/297.html 17:18 < rolla> okay I try 17:18 < th> rolla: update screen 17:19 < th> termcap issue 17:19 < rolla> right after I nuke ircnet 17:19 < Be-El> rolla: what 17:19 < Be-El> rolla: what's your problem with ircnet ? 17:19 < snyke> BLINDCODER 17:19 < rolla> they restrict my connection no matter what 17:20 < blindcoder> SNYKE\ 17:20 < Be-El> rolla: install identd 17:20 < snyke> your person is requested in #gametome 17:20 < rolla> it is there and running 17:20 < rolla> root 122 0.0 0.0 1872 700 ? S Jan15 0:00 /usr/sbin/inetd 17:20 < Be-El> rolla: do you got something running on port 1080 ? 17:20 < rolla> nein 17:21 < Be-El> hmm....wenn ich wuesste, was "-" vorm usernamen genau heisst... 17:21 < rolla> ? 17:21 < Be-El> --- [rolla] (-Der@134.244.181.87) : Der Affe 17:21 < Be-El> oder bist du das nicht ? 17:22 < rolla> oh 17:22 < rolla> I am not sure let me check 17:24 < rolla> blindcoder: do you know what versions I need of those files? 17:24 < blindcoder> hmm... I used the ones taht came with ROCK 1.5 by then 17:24 < rolla> okay 17:24 < blindcoder> plus a nower version of screen which is shown in the mail 17:25 < rolla> nod 17:26 < rolla> Be-El: where on earth could it be getting that - from ? 17:26 < Be-El> rolla: i don 17:26 < Be-El> rolla: i don't know.... 17:26 < rolla> :( 17:27 < Be-El> rolla: afaik the "-" indicates some open proxy...but i'm not sure about it 17:27 < rolla> hmmm 17:27 < rolla> what does that mean 17:28 < blindcoder> fake: okay, mysql up and running 17:29 < blindcoder> fake: it was bdb that causes the segfault 17:31 < Be-El> rolla: <kanossa> iline ohne ident 17:32 < rolla> I know it is not that 17:32 < rolla> it is something in my irssi config 17:32 < rolla> I made a new user and they connect without +r 17:32 < Be-El> does your irssi send another username, that cannot be verified by the running identd ? 17:33 < rolla> dont' think so I changed it back to be right but it still give me a - 17:33 < rolla> what does real_name have to match? 17:34 < Be-El> well, according to freenode you don't have an identd running...or the server is not able to contact the identd 17:34 < Be-El> perhabs your router is blocking the request or does not forward them to the right host behind it 17:34 < rolla> don't use this one 17:34 < rolla> this is my server from work which is firewalled 17:34 < rolla> I am connecting from home :) 17:35 < Be-El> yes, and the firewall is blocking identd requests 17:35 < Be-El> --- [rolla] (~Der@134.244.181.87) : Der Affe 17:35 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p508171B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:35 < rolla> mom 17:35 < Be-El> that's what the ~ says 17:37 -!- rolla_rok [~maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:37 < rolla> that is my home machine 17:38 < rolla> are you sure the ~ means my identd is down? 17:38 -!- rolla [~Der@134.244.181.87] has quit ("leaving") 17:39 -!- rolla [~Der@134.244.181.87] has joined #rocklinux 17:41 -!- rolla_rok [~maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit (Client Quit) 17:43 < Be-El> rolla: yes, i'm sure 17:43 < rolla> hmm 17:43 < rolla> well I can connect from one user account without restriction 17:43 < rolla> so I think identd is not the problem 17:44 < rolla> is there a place I could find info? 17:48 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E499C1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:48 < tcr> moin all 17:49 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E499C1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 17:50 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E499C1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:50 < esden> hi all 17:50 < blindcoder> hi esden 17:51 < blindcoder> hi tcr 17:51 < tcr> hi blindcoder, esden 17:51 < tcr> th: ping 17:51 * -> esden finished watching slayers ;-) 17:51 < blindcoder> esden: ggod :) 17:51 * -> esden wants the film @ blindcoder 17:51 < th> tcr: pong 17:51 < blindcoder> then you can come round and grab CCS :) 17:51 < blindcoder> eseokay, I'll write it on a CD 17:51 < esden> and the first "staffel" is really better 17:52 < blindcoder> esden: hehe :) 17:52 < blindcoder> esden: season 17:52 < esden> yes the first season 17:52 < blindcoder> root@crazyhorse:~# iso_create /home/blindcoder/Slayers_-_The_Motion_Picture.Gowenna.avi >iso 17:52 * -> esden checking email 17:52 < blindcoder> esden: okay, when you're here it will be ready :) 17:52 < tcr> th: i'm adding a patch against a security issue of VIM right now. Will send an email to the ML anyway (to notify the 1.7 team). just that you know.. 17:53 < tcr> https://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=full-disclosure&m=103972417823566 17:54 < th> tcr: restricted mode issue? 17:55 < th> tcr: oh i saw it 17:55 < th> tcr: thanks 17:55 < blindcoder> vim.org and some vendors were notified on Mon, 25 Nov 2002 17:55 -!- maisenhe [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:55 < blindcoder> *ahem* 17:56 < tcr> the patch was released on someday in dec 2002 17:56 < tcr> dunno why that there was no announce 17:56 < tcr> -that 17:56 < blindcoder> hmm... okay 17:57 < esden> hehe ... wim forgot his badge on 19c3 ;-) 17:57 < esden> ok ... I go get my father 17:57 < tcr> h? 17:57 < tcr> hm? 17:57 < tcr> downloading/compiling vim now 17:57 < esden> blindcoder: I will come by later ... when I am back from a meating 17:58 < blindcoder> esden: sure. I'll have your CDs ready by then 17:58 * blindcoder now taking his pills 17:58 < esden> tcr: wim is the guy selling openbsd funware ... a good friend of at least some rocklinux developers 17:58 * -> esden -> off 17:59 < blindcoder> hmm... he's at a _meat_ing... 17:59 * blindcoder wonders how much food he will get there :) 17:59 < blindcoder> btw... 17:59 * blindcoder --> hunting 18:02 < Be-El> cu 18:02 < Be-El> time to switch to weekend mode 18:04 -!- Be-El [~blinke@cab.Genetik.Uni-Bielefeld.DE] has quit ("Client Exiting") 18:06 < maisenhe> which is newer termcap or termlib 18:06 -!- rolla [~Der@134.244.181.87] has left #rocklinux () 18:08 -!- maisenhe is now known as rolla 18:09 < rolla> anyone? 18:11 < snyke> moo 18:12 < rolla> :p 18:12 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 18:13 < rolla> Mike1: 18:13 < Mike1> greetings @ all 18:13 < tcr> moin Mike1 18:13 < tcr> sorry rolla, dunno 18:13 < rolla> :( 18:13 < rolla> oh well I have screen working now 18:14 < rolla> brb 18:14 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit ("leaving") 18:14 -!- maisenhe [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:15 -!- maisenhe is now known as rolla 18:15 * rolla does a dance for joy 18:16 < Mike1> *g 18:16 < rolla> screen works 18:16 < Mike1> congratz dancing rolla 18:17 < rolla> :) 18:20 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p508024BB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("leaving") 18:23 -!- SLACKo [~SLACKo@62.12.124.7] has joined #rocklinux 18:24 < Mike1> hi SLACKo 18:24 < SLACKo> hi man 18:26 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p508024BB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:34 < tcr> ok mail sent about the vim61 sec issue 18:41 < rolla> danke 18:47 < th> perhaps we should patch the system-wide vimrc to disable modelines 18:48 < rolla> ja 18:48 < rolla> I mean yes 18:48 -!- chrisime_ [~chrisime@p50802034.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:48 < tcr> th: the patch solved the issue 18:48 < tcr> solves 18:48 < th> ahh ok 18:49 < tcr> Problem: libcall() can be used in 'foldexpr' to call any system function. 18:49 < tcr> rename(), delete() and remote_send() can also be used in 18:49 < tcr> 'foldexpr'. These are security problems. (Georgi Guninski) 18:49 < tcr> Solution: Don't allow using libcall(), rename(), delete(), remote_send() and 18:49 < tcr> similar functions in the sandbox. 18:49 < th> ic 18:50 < th> anyhow... such modelines are evil 18:51 < tcr> but it wouldnt fit to ROCK to disable them by default, imho 18:52 -!- totom [~sepp@141.30.69.18] has joined #rocklinux 18:53 < blindcoder> /away 18:53 < blindcoder> reeeeeeeeehi 18:53 < totom> hello i installed rocklinux 1.6pre3 from an iso and now i have the problem that i am to stupid to load modules? 18:54 < tcr> hi totom :) 18:54 < totom> i made depmod and modprobe -c > /etc/modules.conf but if i try to load an module i get confusing error messages 18:54 < tcr> like? 18:54 < totom> like ne2k-pci 18:55 < tcr> confusing error message like? 18:55 < tcr> and you should run /sbin/depmod -a 18:55 < totom> the manpage of depmod means depmod -a is no more recommend 18:56 < totom> i also tried depmod -a 18:56 < totom> the message was like look in your syslog ... i am not at home and i forgot to put the message on my notebook 18:57 < tcr> uhm. that's an extremely hard case for any helping 18:58 < tcr> when do you estiamte to come home? 18:58 < totom> and in the generic case what must i do to enale modules after install? in the roklinuxguide is nothing 18:59 < totom> hmm i have no internet at home :( 18:59 < tcr> oh 18:59 < blindcoder> totom: usually `depmod -ae` and then you can load any module not having any unresolved symbols 19:00 < tcr> okay, then just tell me what exactly you had done and i'll try to give an hint 19:00 < totom> blindcoder: thnks ill try if i am at home 19:01 < totom> tcr: i ll look for the error message at home and will come back sometime 19:02 < tcr> or write to the list :) 19:02 < totom> ok 19:02 < totom> yet another question am i able to make an iso if i try to build 1.7? the guide means no 19:03 < blindcoder> ./scripts/Create-ISO -size 700 bootdisk <yourtarget> should do it 19:04 < totom> ok maybe someone can fix this in the guide 19:04 < tcr> totom: please show me where it says that it's not possible 19:05 < tcr> (dont wanna search through the whole doc) 19:05 < totom> and than one one moment ill search it 19:06 < tcr> thank you 19:06 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p508024BB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Connection timed out) 19:10 < totom> it is not in the guide but in the src archive rock-1.7[version]/Documentation/Build "This is not implemented yet in the 1.7 development tree..." 19:11 < totom> so i thaugt it is not working 19:11 < tcr> blindcoder: could you care about that? 19:12 < blindcoder> I'll include a patch for it in my next patch-collection 19:13 < blindcoder> it should be on the list somevhen between tonight and sunday 19:22 < blindcoder> hmm... I'm sure, cliiford will change some bits of it, but at least he has a draft to work on :) 19:57 -!- Gud [~erik@h27n2fls32o899.telia.com] has joined #rocklinux 19:59 < Gud> Hi, I am from the RIAA. I came across this website searching google for 'warez' music, and I found a log where Ge0rG repeatedly said he "has got some of their disk as mp3". 19:59 < Gud> My question is, would you /dcc it to me? :D 19:59 < Gud> "monoton is minimal" 19:59 < Ge0rG> who is Ge0rG? 19:59 < Gud> bluefire, I believe 20:00 -!- martin [~martin@pD9E79A04.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:00 < martin> hello 20:00 < Gud> Ge0rG: Still have it? I've been searching for this song for ages :D 20:00 < Gud> I don't even know the name of it 20:01 < Ge0rG> I am very sorry, but the local police already was here and confiscated all my computers, mp3s and original music cds due to the beforementioned irclog. 20:02 < Gud> Stupid local policemen, we've told them numerous times to let the RIAA handle these cases. After all, we are allowed to do stuff that the local law enforcement can only dream about 20:02 < Ge0rG> Gud: if you don't know the name of the song, how do you know its called "monoton und minimal"? 20:03 < Gud> Ge0rG: Well, a guy keeps singing that in the song so heh 20:03 < owl> re 20:03 < Ge0rG> Gud: the song is from welle:erdball, and you can download a short sample from the bands homepage... https://www.i-p-v.de/welle/mp3/Welle_Erdball_-_Monoton_und_Minimal.mp3 20:04 < Gud> Ge0rG: Cheers! 20:04 < blindcoder> owl: re 20:04 < owl> hi blindcoder 20:11 < tsa> re 20:12 < tsa> need sendmail god. 20:12 < tsa> anyone? 20:12 < blindcoder> phew sendmail... 20:13 < blindcoder> managed to make it use scavenger.homeip.net as sender-domain, but that was after 6 hours of googling 20:13 < tsa> hm.. 20:14 < tsa> MASQUERADE_AS(`scavenger.homeip.net')dnl 20:14 < tsa> FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')dnl 20:14 < tsa> FEATURE(`always_add_domain')dnl 20:14 < tsa> ..should be sufficent. 20:14 -!- Gud_ [~erik@h27n2fls32o899.telia.com] has joined #rocklinux 20:14 < blindcoder> yes, but that didn't mask envelope_to: <> 20:15 < blindcoder> don't ask me why 20:15 < blindcoder> that still showed crazyhorse (my workstation) and not scavenger.homeip.net (my router) 20:16 -!- Gud [~erik@h27n2fls32o899.telia.com] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: Gud_!~erik@h27n2fls32o899.telia.com))) 20:16 -!- Gud_ is now known as Gud 20:16 < tcr> Gud: you come from sweden, could that be? 20:17 < Gud> tcr: Yes. 20:17 < tcr> ah, realized on the .telia.com hostmask 20:18 < tcr> wasn#t sure whether it's really belonging to sweden 20:18 < Gud> it is :D 20:18 < Gud> telia is actually quite cool. 20:18 * blindcoder going to bed. 20:18 < Gud> They host sourceforge projects ;) 20:18 < blindcoder> wish me luck to not waking up again >_< 20:19 < tcr> know one or two other swedes who are using it, i think 20:19 < tcr> besides of something with .bred*.se 20:19 < tcr> bredbond..? 20:21 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 20:21 < armijn> re 20:21 < Gud> bredband :) 20:22 < Gud> probably bredbandsbolaget.se :D 20:22 < Gud> 10Mbit :) 20:22 < Gud> (AFAIK) 20:23 < tcr> yeah something like that 20:23 < tcr> you damn swedet got such isps offering high bandwiths >_< 20:24 < tcr> which doesn't seem to be that expensive 20:24 < Gud> 521MBit for around $45 20:24 < Gud> (telia) 20:27 < armijn> heh 20:27 < armijn> good to see that at least some of my work is being used 20:27 < armijn> (in the guide) 20:28 < owl> hi armijn 20:28 < armijn> hi owl 20:30 < tcr> armijn: that's just like with all genious artists: their work has got the deserved honor when they died ;) 20:31 < armijn> heheh 20:31 < armijn> I'm not dead yet 20:31 < armijn> or is quitting ROCK regarded the same? 20:31 < owl> _ yet _ 20:31 < owl> ;) 20:32 < armijn> owl: eventually I will, of course 20:33 < owl> *grrrr* irda makes me crazy 20:34 < tcr> armijn: yes, you have actually been added to a "to kill" list when you quitted 20:34 < armijn> tcr: ah, good to know 20:34 * armijn not going to .de anymore 20:35 < tcr> fosdem is a good place for a coincidental accident :-> 20:35 < armijn> I just checkd the mailinglist 20:35 < armijn> doesn't seem like there are many people going to FOSDEM 20:36 < tcr> dirty jobs are never done by the bosses 20:36 < armijn> why do the 19c3 pictures look so much like the 18c3 pictures? 20:38 < tcr> havent been there, so dunno 20:39 < armijn> well, I haven't been to 19c3 either... 20:39 < tcr> but i guess they were just copied to pretending a normal meeting but in fact your death was planned .. 20:40 < armijn> ah... 20:40 < armijn> so, who are they gonna send in? 20:40 < armijn> owl, perhaps? 20:40 < owl> armijn: no 20:40 < armijn> posing as a geekgirl... 20:40 < tcr> yeah she could chatter you to death XD 20:40 < owl> no no no 20:40 < owl> *ARGH* 20:40 < armijn> tcr: oh ooh...that doesn't sound too good... 20:41 < armijn> talking about nonsense, like women do ;-) 20:41 < tcr> about? 20:41 < armijn> completely driving you nuts 20:41 < tcr> women talk nonsense ;) 20:41 < armijn> so you just kill yourself in the end... 20:41 < armijn> and then it's just suicide! 20:42 < armijn> aah! so that's your dirty game! 20:42 < owl> <--- currently not willed to talk... as quiet as fish... 20:42 < armijn> owl: blub 20:42 < owl> *grml* 20:42 < armijn> fish don't say "grml" 20:43 < owl> armijn: what then? 20:43 < armijn> blub 20:43 < owl> ah so. 20:43 < tcr> owl is a fishess 20:43 < owl> <-- totally confused 20:43 < tcr> == female fish 20:43 < armijn> *snif* *snif*, I smell fish! 20:43 < owl> *hrhr* it's just the Openbsd-box... 20:44 < armijn> OpenBSD doesn't smell... 20:44 < tcr> owl does? 20:44 < armijn> fish neither, except if they are out in the open for too long... 20:44 < armijn> tcr: how am I supposed to know? 20:44 < tcr> hmm, you'll be forced to find it out, if you want or not! 20:45 < owl> tcr: ??? 20:45 < armijn> tcr: but given the fact that she has been in cyberspace longer than in water... 20:45 < armijn> owl: the chattering to death thing... 20:45 < owl> armijn: ? practiced by you and tcr ? 20:45 < armijn> owl: nooo 20:46 < tcr> armijn: caution!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 20:46 < armijn> tcr: ah, this is one of her tricks right? 20:46 < tcr> she's trying to get us psychopathic by pretending not to know what we are talking about! 20:46 < owl> armijn: of course. you both are talking more then myself 20:46 < armijn> tcr: or this is just a trick by you to make me paranoid... 20:47 < armijn> isn't it?? 20:47 < tcr> even though, being paranoid isnt bad at all 20:47 < armijn> ;-) 20:47 < armijn> yeah...that reminds me 20:47 < tcr> i'm just a man on a mission ;) 20:47 * armijn puts on "Paranoid" by Black Sabbath 20:48 < tcr> i have a dream that one day my children hasn't to fear about the fearful owl ;) 20:48 < armijn> ok, so, that's "tcr" ,"owl" and "children" in one sentence... 20:48 < tcr> black sabbath \m/ 20:48 < armijn> that can't be good 20:49 * tcr is listening to Nargaroth - Black Metal Ist Krieg 20:49 < armijn> tcr: what's wrong with Black Sabbath? 20:49 < tcr> how do you come to the assumption i have anything against itß 20:49 < tcr> ? 20:50 < tcr> it->them 20:50 < armijn> tcr: welll...what's the \m/ then? 20:50 < armijn> a hand? 20:50 < tcr> well stands for moshing or so, something like headbanging 20:51 < armijn> ah k 20:51 < armijn> nargaroth...sounds like black metal... 20:51 < tcr> ya 20:52 < armijn> can't be good then ;- 20:52 < armijn> ;-) 20:52 < armijn> ok, am off 20:52 < armijn> l8r! 20:52 < tcr> blah 20:52 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux () 20:53 * tcr brb 20:53 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E499C1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 20:54 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:00 -!- martin [~martin@pD9E79A04.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Bye bye") 21:16 -!- totom [~sepp@141.30.69.18] has quit ("BitchX: TASTES GREAT! 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