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--- Log opened Mon Jan 27 00:00:54 2003
--- Day changed Mon Jan 27 2003
00:32 < owl> <-- sleeping. gn8
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02:29 < ringo30> anyone doen the lpp for 2.4.20 ?
02:29 < ringo30> s/doen/done
02:29 < ringo30> anyone awake ?
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06:56 < cchamilt> EHLO everyone
06:57 < cchamilt> Nobody here?
09:14 < owl> *yawn* good morning
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10:49 < cchamilt> anyone?
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10:52 < owl> chrisime: yes.
10:52 < ringo30> hi all(e)
10:52 < owl> hi ringo30
10:53 < kasc> morning
10:53 < ringo30> I wanna do the lpp patch, does anyone have a working patch ?
10:53 < kasc> ringo30: blindcod1r had some working patch i think
10:53 < kasc> didnt work here, tho
10:54 < ringo30> kasc: which kernel version ?
10:54 < owl> WEE! strike! won the match agains accessing-shared-directories-rules agains windows!
10:56 < kasc> 2.4.20
10:57 < ringo30> kasc: hmm, I want that nifty graph boot. Can you sent me the patch ?
10:57 < cchamilt> Anyone have problems with minicom on 1.7?
10:58 < kasc> sure. email or dcc?
10:58 < ringo30> if you want email: ringo78@xs4all.nl
11:00 < ringo30> q
11:00 < ringo30> wrong window ...
11:00 < kasc> hehe
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11:09 < blindcoder> moin
11:09 < owl> hi blindcoder
11:09 < ringo30> kasc: Thanks !
11:09 < blindcoder> hi owl
11:11 < kasc> :)
11:17 < kasc> moin blindcoder
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11:26 < ringo30> kasc: you know its incomplete ?
11:27 < blindcoder> moin kasc
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11:35 < huebi_> Moin
11:35 < kasc> is it?
11:35 < kasc> that might be the reason why it keeps oopsing
11:35 -!- huebi_ is now known as huebi
11:35 < kasc> i got it from blindcoder's webpage...
11:35 < blindcoder> moin huebi
11:35 < fake> morning
11:36 < huebi> moin blindcoder
11:36 < blindcoder> kasc: hmm... could it be that I posted an incomplete patch there?
11:36 < huebi> moin fake
11:36 < fake> cchamilt: greetz to australia ;)
11:36 < owl> hi fake, huebi
11:36 < fake> cchamilt: i had a look at minicom too, and gave up. downgrading it would help
11:36 < blindcoder> but it's the file I use:  `patch -p1 < lpp-2420.patch`
11:36 < huebi> moin owl
11:37 < kasc> strange
11:38 < blindcoder> kasc: have you used a vanilla-kernel or a rock-patched kernel?
11:38 < blindcoder> ./scripts/Build-Pkg linux24-src
11:38 < ringo30> hmm bzip file ends unexpectedly last diff file = linux_logo.h
11:39 < blindcoder> ringo30: mom, I'll have a look at it
11:39 < huebi> New ISO-image from holyolli: ftp://stud.fbi.fh-darmstadt.de/pub/linux/rocklinux/iso-images/rock-1.5.17-alpha-base.iso
11:39 < huebi> It's for alpha :-)
11:39 * fake has finished a ROCK 1.7 build on MIPS (the cobalt)
11:40 < blindcoder> ringo30: hmm... I just bunzip2`d the patch and it says no error
11:40 < ringo30> its 36864 bytes over here.
11:40 < blindcoder> ringo30: but I'll rework it during this week since it still has some weakness
11:41 < blindcoder> -rw-r--r--    1 blindcod users     8654939 Jan 23 19:39 lpp-2420.patch
11:42 < ringo30> uznizen and bunzip2recovered 4500175
11:42 < huebi> fake: koool
11:42 < ringo30> s/uznizen/unzipped/ (its early ...).
11:42 < blindcoder> ringo30: then there's definately something missing
11:43 < kasc> blindcoder: a vanilla kernel
11:43 < blindcoder> 51808 Jan 23 19:39 lpp-2420.patch.bz2
11:43 < blindcoder> kasc: hmm... I've made the diff between an unpatched and a patched ROCK kernel
11:44 < ringo30> 36864 Jan 27 12:08 lpp-2420.patch.bz2
11:45 < ringo30> mind the missing bytes ...
11:45 < blindcoder> ringo30: try redownloading the file :https://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/lpp-2420.patch.bz2 --> 49eca37861f693f34a1e8570618a70d5
11:46 < kasc> 51808 27. Jan 11:43 lpp-2420.patch.bz2 here
11:46 < owl> https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,232472,00.html  << if someone wants to get depressed, have a look at this
11:47 < kasc> maybe the mail got fscked somewhere in between...
11:47 < kasc> s/fscked/fscked up/
11:47 < blindcoder> brb
11:50 < blindcoder> back
11:51 < fake> owl: did you think they'll throw marshmallows at saddam?
11:52 < owl> fake: nope. but ATOMbombs? are they totally insane now?
11:52 < ringo30> kasc: I'll send some hatemail to my provider ... :-)
11:52 < fake> owl: a small nuclear warhead is nothing against a few gramme of Vx Gas
11:54 < owl> fake: however. imho the USA plays "police of world". have you ever had a look to the sponsors and so on of bush and co.? - the most of those guys were sponsored by energy/oil companies... imho that's a war because of oil and money
11:54 < fake> owl: why would one fight a war if not for power and money?
11:55 < owl> fake: i dunno. why fight a war? war equals shit.
11:56 < fake> owl: tell that bush
11:56 < ringo30> Make love not war.
11:56 < owl> fake: give me his mobile number. or a gun and his address
11:56 < owl> ringo30: full ack
11:56 < fake> owl: you just became a criminal.
11:57 < fake> owl: planing to murder the president of the US is a crime.
11:57 < owl> fake: yeah. and i don't mind about it. if i could stop this shit.
11:57 < fake> btw: Washington, White House, the big white house with the great garden.
11:57 < owl> fake: private address
11:57 < fake> you can't miss it
11:58 < owl> or of friends... *hrhr*
11:58 < owl> (oh forgot... chimpanzees have no friends)
11:58 < owl> *human* friends
11:59 < fake> owl: *shakes_head* relax... you're the ape here
12:00 < owl> fake: *argh* thank you very much.
12:01 < owl> why should i?! and if you want to offend someone - then look for a girlfriend!
12:01 < fake> owl: you really act like an ape when you're 'upset'
12:01 < fake> owl: you jump around and scream and kick and... y'know
12:02 < owl> fake: why? who was i kicking? eh?!
12:03 < fake> owl: bush and his friends
12:03 < fake> owl: you say brute force is bad, but want to use it yourself.
12:04 < fake> owl: you're such a...... ...
12:04 < owl> fake: great.
12:04 < owl> fake: you should really should look for a girlfrend who you can offend, my friend.
12:04 < owl> now - go away!
12:04 < fake> owl: you are a kid.
12:04 * blindcoder sits back and grins
12:04 < fake> owl: really.
12:05 < fake> owl: no reason to become personal on that...
12:06 < fake> blindcoder: best thing to do, eh? ;)
12:06 < owl> fake: nope. did i offend _you_? no. just bush. cuz i hate war! and if i'm using cynismn you don't understand it. and _you_ became personal to me!
12:06 < blindcoder> fake: nothing like a good flame :)
12:07 < fake> owl: i did? i just commented what i 'saw'. nothing personal, i didn't tell you to get a life. you told _me_ to get a girlfriend (as if that would make things any better;)
12:08 < owl> fake: you named me a ape, my "friend"!!! think about what you said!
12:08 < fake> owl: you named bush an ape. so?
12:08 < fake> owl: if you may call persons apes by your free will, i may do so, too.
12:09 < fake> owl: the message should, once again, have been: look at yourself before pointing at others.
12:10 < owl> fake: i didn't know that your name is bush or that he is your friend.
12:10 < fake> owl: nobody said that.
12:10 < ringo30> blindcoder: building kernel with fbb patch :-)
12:10 < owl> fake: why did you "verteigen" him then?
12:10 < fake> owl: did i?
12:10 < owl> fake: yes!
12:11 < fake> owl: where?
12:11 < owl> see somewhere above...
12:12 < fake> owl: i know what i wrote.
12:12 < owl> (warhead is nothing agains...) and so on...
12:12 < blindcoder> ringo30: did you apply a theme?
12:12 < fake> owl: that doesn't mean bush is doing the right thing.
12:13 < ringo30> blindcoder: nope there is one in isnt there ?
12:13 < owl> fake: *grml* but sound so
12:14 < fake> owl: *sigh*
12:14 < blindcoder> ringo30: no, not yet. get the files "naviboot.tar.gz" and "theme_install" from the same URI as above
12:14 * fake has to leave now
12:14 < blindcoder> fake: bye!
12:14 < ringo30> ok !
12:14 < fake> maybe... i can eat again later... ;)
12:14 < blindcoder> ringo30: then do ./theme_install naviboot.tar.gz
12:14 < huebi> cu fake
12:16 < blindcoder> ringo30: please restart the "naviboot.tar.gz", that was the wrong file I put there >_<
12:16 * blindcoder really has to rewark that thing >_<
12:16 < blindcoder> rework
12:18 < blindcoder> hmm... distrowatch is broken
12:20 < ringo30> ok blindcoder ... it gave some crc err.
12:23 < ringo30> recompiling...
12:34 < ringo30> brb
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12:41 < ringo30> blindcoder: works allmost fine /etc/initscript line 21 /dev/console no such device ?
12:41 < blindcoder> ringo30: did you add CONSOLE= to the bootparams?
12:41 < blindcoder> because that's wehn I got that error
12:43 < blindcoder> or console=
12:43 < ringo30> yep .. console=/dev/ttys2 CONSOLE=/dev/ttys2
12:43 < blindcoder> ringo30: did that work before the LPP?
12:44 < ringo30> never had it in lilo.conf README said it do I do it.
12:44 < blindcoder> I have had the same problem, but no chance of fixing / finding the root cause of it yet
12:44 < blindcoder> ringo30: yes. Just leave it out.
12:44 < ringo30> ok !
12:44 < blindcoder> then the boot messages will appear again, but...
12:45 < blindcoder> oh, and download and apply that patch:
12:45 < blindcoder> https://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/etc_rcd_rc.diff
12:45 < blindcoder> if you use ROCK
12:45 < blindcoder> 1.7
12:45 < blindcoder> then init will keep increasing the progress bar until 100%
12:46 < ringo30> ofcaurse ! I use 1.6.0pre3 .. I will give it a try !
12:46 < ringo30> s/o/u/
12:47 < blindcoder> hmm... don't know if it applies against 1.6.0's /etc/rc.d/rc
12:47 < blindcoder> but maybe you can modify it as necessary
12:48 < blindcoder> okay, I'm off for lunch
12:51 < ringo30> bon apetit !
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13:32 < blindcoder> back
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14:21 < ringo30> blindcoder: which file do I alter defenitions or linux_logo.h to install other theme ?
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14:53 < ringo30> blindcoder: are you there ?
14:53 < blindcoder> ringo30: I'm here new :)
14:53 < blindcoder> ringo30: just use the theme_install script on the tar.gz file
14:54 < ringo30> ok.. qw. I saw you typed something about installing diff themes, do I only have to change the #if ==> #define bbb(dunno) 214
14:55 < ringo30> moved > /dev/comsole ==> /dev/null dont see any msg any more ..
14:55 < blindcoder> in the naviboot.tar.gz that is now up it's already
14:55 < blindcoder> changed
14:56 < blindcoder> the \if must become #define and all other #* must be deleted
14:58 < ringo30> #define LINUX_LOGO_COLORS 214, and other #ifdef just rm them ?
14:58 < blindcoder> jepp
14:58 < blindcoder> yes
14:59 < blindcoder> only the lines with #ifdef or #endif not the lines in between :)
14:59 < blindcoder> if you re-download naviboot.tar.gz from my site then it's already changed
14:59 < ringo30> yep downloaded it installed it and works like a charm thanks !
14:59 < blindcoder> I will try to make it obsolete to have to make these changes to linux_logo.h as soon as I found where to put the #defines in the kernel
14:59 < blindcoder> ringo30: nice to hear that :)
15:05 < ringo30> ok ! I (am probably no capable) will have a look @ it 2 !
15:06 < blindcoder> he, it's not tha difficult. LINUX_LOGO_COLORS and two other defines have to go somewhere into driver/video/fbprogress.c
15:06 < blindcoder> but I have to test it then and that will be this evening as it looks now
15:08 < ringo30> ok  ! Nice !
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15:11 < Mike1> Moin all
15:11 < ringo30> hi Mike1
15:17 < owl> hi Mike1
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15:17 < owl> ... and bye :)
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15:26 < Mike1> re
15:26 < blindcoder> re Mike1
15:27 * Mike1 s router dieing
15:27 * blindcoder applies CBR :)
15:29 < owl> re Mike1
15:29 < owl> a dying router? huch?
15:30 < Mike1> owl: yup hd is almost gone.
15:30 < owl> Mike1: waeh. damn it. headcrash?
15:31 < Mike1> ack
15:31 < blindcoder> *ouch* that sucks
15:31 < Mike1> blindcoder: yeah tell me about it
15:31 * blindcoder has to kill a 80 GB disk because of accumulating bad blocks
15:31 < owl> Mike1: congrats. i feel with you
15:34 < huebi> Moin Mike1
15:35 < Mike1> moin huebi
15:36 < Mike1> owly ah well enjoy the moment, i am building a new and improved one right now
15:36 < Mike1> *g
15:36 < blindcoder> Mike1: a new and improved owl?
15:36 < huebi> *g*
15:36 < huebi> brb
15:37 < owl> Mike1: :PP
15:37 < cchamilt> hello everybody
15:37 < owl> building a new and improved owl... give her cappuccino and a keyboard as pillow ;P
15:37 < owl> hi cchamilt
15:37 < blindcoder> rehi cchamilt
15:38 < owl> (aeh and speakers of course)
15:38 < cchamilt> Um I have been comtemplating pam.
15:39 < cchamilt> Why don't we have it?
15:39 < Mike1> blindcoder: nah a new router :)
15:39 < Mike1> greetings cchamilt
15:39 < blindcoder> cchamilt: hmm...because nobody used / needed it yet, I think...
15:40 < cchamilt> Hmm.
15:40 < Mike1> ping huebi
15:40 < owl> *gr* another project manager annoying me! *dying*
15:40 < cchamilt> I'll wait till he gets back.  I always assumed it was taboo for some reason.
15:41 < cchamilt> huebi might know.
15:41 * blindcoder is now known as Project Manager
15:41 < owl> blindcoder: pardon?!
15:41 < cchamilt> I think the pam code was shit a year or so ago.
15:41 < Mike1> cchamilt: ack
15:41 * blindcoder now also annoying owl :)
15:42 < cchamilt> It is looking maintained in cvs now.
15:42 < owl> blindcoder: but you're not talking into this fscking mobile phone and annoying the coders the whole day... :P
15:42 < owl> and going onto the 1st floor up and down and tolking and walking and talking...
15:43 < owl> (and not stopping...)
15:43 < blindcoder> no, I'm talking into my headset, annoying other coders to finally giving me their API definitions and walking up and down the floor thinking about implementations
15:44 < owl> *lol*
15:44 < blindcoder> and how to convince my boss that I _need_ a LifeBook E-Series for work :)
15:45 < owl> blindcoder: a _what_?! blindcoder!!! i need one, too! :P
15:45 < Mike1> fsck i will _not_ stop reading my mail for 5 days again !
15:46 < owl> Mike1: why did you?
15:46 < blindcoder> Mike1: hehe, yeah... I know how I came back from a 2 week vacation
15:46 < blindcoder> login: blindcoder
15:46 < blindcoder> password:
15:46 < owl> geheim?
15:46 < blindcoder> You have 392 new mails.
15:46 < blindcoder> *ARGH*
15:46 < Mike1> owl: /me was at the hospital 3 days, then 2 more resting home
15:46 < blindcoder> brb
15:46 < owl> Mike1: omg. what did you have?
15:47 < Mike1> blindcoder: 392 new mails is nothing compared to what i have :(((
15:47 < Mike1> owl: its a long story, but just say that there was a lot of blood (mine) involved
15:48 < owl> urks.
15:53 < blindcoder> oh...
15:55 < Mike1> ping huebi
15:55 < blindcoder> huebi: host unreachable
15:56 < Mike1> ping blindcoder
15:56 < Mike1> *g
15:56 < blindcoder> blindcoder is dead
15:57 * blindcoder going home now. bye
15:58 < Mike1> oyasumi nasai death blindcoder
15:59 < owl> blindcoder: bye. and don't forget: dead can dance ...
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16:13 < Mike1> re ringo30
16:13 < owl> re ringo30
16:29 < huebi> re
16:29 < owl> re huebi
16:30 < ringo30> just remoevd alsa modules ...;-(
16:31 < owl> ringo30: what's with alsa moduesl?
16:31 < owl> *wrong
16:32 < cchamilt> I just bought a fujitsu P2120 I think.
16:32 < cchamilt> I hope.
16:33 < cchamilt> huebi: Why doesn't rock have pam.
16:34 < huebi> cchamilt: There was only one person except me who wanted it and nobody else wanted to implement it.
16:35 < cchamilt> huebi:What is so hard about implementing it?
16:35 < huebi> cchamilt: Do you want to implement it?
16:35 < cchamilt> huebi: I have played with it from cvs.  It seems to build easy.
16:35 < huebi> cchamilt: nothing, I think. But it needs time I wanted to spend on the rock scripts
16:36 < huebi> cchamilt: Url?
16:36 < cchamilt> huebi: I have merged most debian patches I think we would want.
16:36 < cchamilt> huebi: just the cvs from pam.sf.net and the debian patches from their site.
16:37 < cchamilt> huebi: Pam seems to be better maintained now.
16:38 < cchamilt> I plan to finish a 1.7 build (1.6 would not be the place to test it) and then I will know which packages break now.
16:38 < ringo30> ahh make modules_install removes all modules alsa mods 2 ...
16:38 < huebi> cchamilt: If you want it we can give it a try for 1.6.1. For 1.6.0 I do not want any big changes like PAM
16:38 < cchamilt> Then I will rebuild with pam to see how things go.
16:38 < huebi> ringo30: ACK
16:39 < cchamilt> I don't think it would be hard to get it to work on either version now.
16:39 < huebi> ringo30: rm -rf /lib/modules/<kernel version> is done.
16:39 < cchamilt> I have some commercial uses for rock I need pam for.
16:40 < ringo30> now it doesnt compile any more ... wehhhhhhh
16:40 < huebi> cchamilt: ACK, but all packages linking against PAM must be testet and tested again. That is the big time hole.
16:40 < cchamilt> Yep.
16:41 < cchamilt> huebi: I hope to be able to charge the hours to someone else.
16:41 < cchamilt> huebi: It seems that s'pore is finally waking up to open source.
16:42 < cchamilt> huebi: Or at least we have finally started saying the right things to the right people.
16:42 < huebi> cchamilt: PAM would be great and would make many thinks more simple.
16:42 < huebi> cchamilt:
16:43 < cchamilt> I might have jobs for other people if anyone wants about e40/hr contracted.
16:44 < huebi> cchamilt: One of my customers asked me why to use solaris instead of Linux: It's more than 3 times faster and the hardware costs about 50 time more than a faster PC
16:45 < owl> <-- going home
16:45 < huebi> cchamilt: I think I know some people who want to work on Open Source, Just drop me a mail, please: huebi@stud.fbi.fh-darmstadt.de
16:45 < cchamilt> huebi: Well I need pam for better security integration.  We are looking at rolling out some appliances based on it.
16:46 < huebi> cchamilt: How much time is there till the roll out starts?
16:47 < cchamilt> No idea, we are still negotiating some stuff.  One product I will personally finish this month and it will be put into an appliance after.
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16:48 < cchamilt> huebi: Can't say who are client is, probably ever.  And the hardware results may be local to asia only.  It will all be oss work though.
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16:52 < huebi> cchamilt: never the less it sounds very interesting.
16:52 < huebi> moin hackbard
16:52 < cchamilt> huebi: Emailing you now.
16:52 < huebi> cchamilt: Thank you very much
16:54 < huebi> bbl
16:54 < hackbard> hi huebi!
16:54 < hackbard> cnn!
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16:59 < huebi> re
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17:09 < ringo30> hmm alsa is up again ... But hwo about devfs & alsa Now I created some nodes its kludgy, isnt it ?
17:11 < huebi> ringo30: ln -sf /dev/sound/* /dev
17:11 < huebi> ringo30: or ln -sf /dev/snd/* /dev
17:11 < huebi> I don 't remember
17:12 < ringo30> yehh ok huebi, But I created a node /dev/dsp is there no different way or is ok with devfs ?
17:13 < huebi> ringo30: MKOLDCOMP or so is an option. Please read the man page of devfsd. I forgot that too...
17:14 < ringo30> ok i'll read ! Thanks !
17:18 < ringo30> did that think i didnt ran depmod :-(
17:29 < blindcoder> rehi
17:31 < huebi> cu
17:31 < huebi> ... und wech.
17:31 < ringo30> bye
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17:31 < Mike1> re all
17:31 * Mike1 needs huebi urgently
17:31 < Mike1> >_<
17:32 < Mike1> does someone have a rock iso with SCSI support? i dont care if it is 1.5 or 1.7
17:36 < Mike1> ... H ... U ... E ... B ... I ...
17:58 < ringo30> blindcoder: did you create own themes ?
17:58 < blindcoder> ringo30: no, not yet. But I want to do a ROCK theme
17:59 < blindcoder> Mike1: huebi left at 17:31
18:01 < ringo30> ahh ok I wanna do a redhead Theme, use fblogo0.1.9 ?
18:01 < Mike1> thx blindy
18:01 < blindcoder> ringo30: yes, as described. remember to still remove the #if and so on until I have that patch aut
18:01 < blindcoder> out
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18:02 * blindcoder watching Anime. bbl
18:02 < ringo30> ok .... Installed wolerene theme allready succesfully.
18:02 < ringo30> wolverine fo experimant use only ..
18:03 < ringo30> experimental
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18:16 < Satg> Hello People !!!
18:26 < rolla> re
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19:12 < Mike1> 0_o
19:17 < zer0_o> mike
19:17 < zer0_o> hi =)
19:17 < zer0_o> are you rock developer ?
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19:18 < armijn> re
19:18 < zer0_o> re
19:18 < zer0_o> armijn are you rock developer ?
19:19 < armijn> zer0_o: not anymore
19:19 < zer0_o> why not ??
19:19 < zer0_o> i wanted to ask, when ports will be realized ...
19:19 < armijn> because I quit
19:20 < armijn> what ports :)
19:20 < zer0_o> a port system, like in fbsd =)
19:20 < armijn> aaah!
19:20 < armijn> my guess is: never
19:20 < armijn> I tried, but there wasn't that much interest
19:21 < armijn> and the others wanted to work on a different solution...
19:21 < armijn> and then I lost interest in ROCK
19:23 < armijn> and AFAIK no one else is working on it
19:24 < armijn> zer0_o: you might want to check out Gentoo, although portage can be rahter painful as well
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19:29 < armijn> huebi: awake?
19:34 < ringo30> huebi ==> 0 days 2 hours 2 mins 40 secs [signon: Mon Jan 27
19:36 < armijn> hrmpf
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19:48 < owl> re
19:50 < Mike1> re all
19:50 < kasc> auch re
19:50 < Mike1> zer0_o: greetings... yes i am a rock dev
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20:06 < zer0_o> mike =)
20:07 < zer0_o> when will be the ports system released ? =)
20:07 < Mike1> zer0_o: :)
20:08 < Mike1> zer0_o: not in a new future i can tell ...
20:08 < zer0_o> =(
20:08 < Mike1> as not many people has been interested
20:08 < Mike1> zer0_o: maybe you would like to contribute?
20:09 < zer0_o> i would like the port system .. it's a reason to leave rock =|
20:10 < Mike1> zer0_o: i know ... and this concerns me
20:10 < Mike1> also armijn tried to do this sometime ago but didn't get much attention
20:10 < zer0_o> =(
20:10 < Mike1> zer0_o: have you thought on helping us out to do this?
20:10 < zer0_o> ports are very usefull =)
20:11 < zer0_o> i don't know much about linux and unix .. =|
20:11 < Mike1> sending an email to the ROCK Linux mailing asking for this to be done would be a good start, and might catch the attention of other users and developers
20:11 < Mike1> zer0_o: then do the email thingy :)
20:11 < zer0_o> =) i'll do that
20:12 < Mike1> Good
20:12 < zer0_o> i'm away .. colleague is here
20:12 < Mike1> ok cu zer0_o
20:30 < blindcoder> what is "ports' and why is it so important?
20:30 < ringo30> I think he means bsd ports collection
20:31 < blindcoder> hmm... never used BSD... try to explain to a newbie :)
20:31 < ringo30> ohh just some (a lot) packages you can install, but we have our own dont we ?
20:31 < Mike1> https://www.openbsd.com/ports.html#stable
20:32 < blindcoder> yes, we do.
20:32 < blindcoder> ./scripts/Build-Pkg does the job
20:32 < blindcoder> so if someone wants to use ports then just install the program for it.
20:32 < ringo30> blindcoder: Yes it does work ok... How do I create a paleeted PNG ? Any clue ?
20:32 < blindcoder> I mean, one can use rpm and deb in ROCK, too, if you like
20:33 < ringo30> s/paleeted/paletted/
20:33 < blindcoder> ringo30: start gimp, then select "Save As...". That's how I would do it
20:34 < Mike1> rpm2cpio foo-0.1.rpm | cpio -i -d ; cd foo-0.1 ; dh_make -e blindy@rocklinux.org ; dpk-buildpackage -rfakeroot ...
20:34 < Mike1> *ggg*
20:34 < blindcoder> sorry, no @rocklinux.org address :)
20:34 < Mike1> blindy@rocklinux.de *
20:34 < Mike1> :P
20:35 < blindcoder> neither :) but I get the idea :)
20:35 < Mike1> :P
20:35 < Mike1> oki
20:36 < blindcoder> cause I'm not an active "Developer" but only "contributor" I haven't asked clifford for an account yet
20:37 < Mike1> echo "Cliff, give blindy an acount" | sendmail clifford@clifford.at
20:39 < blindcoder> :)
20:57 < owl> re
20:57 < Mike1> wb owly
20:58 < blindcoder> hehe
20:59 < blindcoder> lpp-2.4.20 shrunk from >8M to ~30 kB :)
21:04 < blindcoder> https://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/rocklinux/
21:04 < blindcoder> for everyone who's interested :)
21:04 < ringo30> blindcoder: waht shrunk ?
21:04 < ringo30> Im interested !
21:04 < blindcoder> ringo30: the Linux Progress Patch for Linux 2.4.20 that I ported from 2.4.17 to 2.4.20
21:05 < blindcoder> I made a mistake last time bloating it to 8MB uncompressed
21:05 < Mike1> weee nice work master blindy
21:05 < blindcoder> no, don't call me "Master blindy"
21:05 < blindcoder> just "god" will suffice :)
21:06 < ringo30> hmm nice. No trouble here kernel image +- 1Mb
21:06 < Mike1> Lord Blindy would be enough?
21:06 < blindcoder> ringo30: sure. I meant the patch, not the kernel image
21:06 < blindcoder> Mike1: I think I can bear with that :)
21:06 < Mike1> lol
21:07 < blindcoder> ringo30: I plan to craete ROCK boot-logos during the next days
21:08 < blindcoder> okay, my work here is done. I now go to bed. Good night, everyone!
21:08 < ringo30> blindcoder: seems nice ! I am looking into paletted PNG's ... Maybe I can help (a little)
21:09 < ringo30> night blindcoder !
21:09 < blindcoder> ringo30: these boot logos are created from tiffs parsed through fblogo
21:09 < blindcoder> But if you have good pics, just hand htem over :)
21:09 < blindcoder> okay, /me off
21:09 < ringo30> bye !
21:47 < Mike1> OWL!!
22:11 < owl> https://www.friedensnetz.de/Muenchen_8_2_3.pdf
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23:05 < Mike1> gute nacht
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23:09 < owl> hi d3mian
23:14 < d3mian> have anyone played with inn ?
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23:21 < d3mian> i was trying to run cvs with ssh, but after authenticate the user, cvs says /home/user doesnt exists ? should be a homedir for this user inside the chrooted cvs ?
23:23 < owl> <-- leaving/sleepling/going to die
23:23 < owl> gn8. bye. whatever
23:29 < d3mian> cya owl
23:29 < d3mian> i leave too
23:29 < d3mian> bye
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