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05:12 < Mike2> moin all
05:12 < Mike2> Gnome2.2 is out
05:12 * Mike2 jumping around
05:12 < Mike2> pin g rekcah
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07:48 [ aszlig ] [ hannes_ ] [ Mike1 ] [ rekcah ] [ SMP ]
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12:37 < ringo30> hello all
12:38 < blindcoder> hi ringo30
12:38 < owl> *yaaaaawn* good morning
12:39 < owl> vacation is wonderful ;P
12:39 < ringo30> I know i have it now for 1,5 months.
12:39 < owl> ringo30: pardon?!!
12:40 < blindcoder> moin owl
12:40 < owl> hi blindy
12:40 < blindcoder> owl: I'll stay at home on monday, too :)
12:40 < ringo30> just some to code ...
12:40 < owl> blindcoder: why? ;)
12:40 < ringo30> time
12:40 < ringo30> I like it !
12:41 < owl> ringo30: i believe it... but... why 1,5 month?
12:41 < ringo30> No jab looking for it, but all i found was /dev/null ! So like alf said : "Making the best of a worse situation".
12:42 < owl> urgs.
12:42 < owl> good luck then...
12:43 < ringo30> Thanks I'll be OK, but I like to code something and going to get some paper to code for some company they like paper .. :-(
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12:59 < blindcoder> re
13:00 < ringo30> hi blindcoder
13:06 * blindcoder trolling on /.
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13:49 < tcr> moin all
13:49 < owl> moin tcr
13:50 < blindcoder> moin tcr
14:57 < esden> https://www.symlink.ch/article.pl?sid=03/02/05/1841248&mode=nocomment
14:58 < blindcoder> hehe, mine has 56.2cm
14:58 < esden> apollo has 26.8cm
14:59 < blindcoder> hehe :PPPP
14:59 < tfing> 24.5cm
14:59 < tfing> =]
14:59 < esden> my router has 7.5cm
14:59 < esden> ;-)
14:59 < tfing> ;)
15:00 < esden> who has less ?
15:00 < blindcoder> my machine@work: 19.7
15:00 < blindcoder> and my e10k won't run the script >_<
15:00 < esden> blindcoder: alter it !
15:00 < esden> port it to e10k
15:01 < esden> you get additional 20 cm only because it is a e10k ;-)
15:01 < blindcoder> hehe
15:01 < blindcoder> the problem is it uses /proc
15:01 < blindcoder> and that isn't really there on Solaris
15:01 < blindcoder> cat: cannot open /proc/cpuinfo
15:01 < blindcoder> bash: free: command not found
15:01 < blindcoder> df: unknown option: P
15:01 < blindcoder> Usage: df [-F FSType] [-abegklntVv] [-o FSType-specific_options] [directory | block_device | resource]
15:01 < blindcoder> awk: syntax error near line 1
15:01 < blindcoder> awk: illegal statement near line 1
15:01 < blindcoder> awk: syntax error near line 1
15:02 < blindcoder> awk: bailing out near line 1
15:02 < blindcoder> root@se-sendling:/pvol14/w5027#
15:02 < blindcoder> you see?
15:02 < esden> blindcoder: yes I know I sit on sun at the moment too
15:02 < blindcoder> :)
15:02 < esden> we should create a poll about rock users and a must is a question about the length ;-)
15:03 < esden> but first we have to port it to solaris/bsd and other
15:03 < blindcoder> hehe
15:03 * blindcoder hates this mozilla-Bug >_<
15:06 < owl> hi esden ;)
15:07 < esden> yes hi all so by the way
15:11 < blindcoder> AAAH
15:11 < blindcoder> HE DID IT AGAIN
15:13 * -> esden replaced awk by gawk
15:13 < esden> and it now shows 70cm on the box I sit in front of
15:13 < esden> but it is not considering cpuinfo and free
15:14 < esden> and it would make it much longer because the box has 16GB memory
15:14 < esden> ok ... i am off -> learning
15:14 < owl> poor esden :P have fun. bye
15:15 < blindcoder> hehe
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15:38 < Mike1> moin all
15:39 < owl> hi Mike1 ;)
15:41 < [anders]> narf.....
15:41 < blindcoder> gnarf
15:41 < blindcoder> hi [anders]
15:41 < blindcoder> hi Mike1
15:41 < [anders]> lo blindcoder, Mike1, owl
15:41 < [anders]> and all the others.
15:42 < owl> hi [anders]
15:42 < Mike1> hi [anders]!!!
15:43 < Mike1> [anders]: Gnome2.2 is out
15:43 * [anders] is back at work as of yesterday..
15:43 < Mike1> [anders]: great, so you are finally feeling better?
15:43 < tcr> hi mike and anders
15:43 < [anders]> Mike1: Yes, I noticed.. And apperantly it should be working a bit better than before..
15:43 < Mike1> [anders]: it is :)
15:43 < [anders]> Mike1: well, yes and no.. I don't cough as much, but I still am no where near 100%..
15:44 < [anders]> lo tcr
15:44 < Mike1> [anders]: this release just made me get back my motivation
15:44 < Mike1> hi tcr
15:44 < [anders]> Mike1: but it has not managed to give me mine back.. :-/
15:44 < Mike1> [anders]: it will once you see Gnome2.2 running on both stable and development tree
15:45 < [anders]> yeah, that is just a little thing.. I have no box that is running ROCK apart from one in Sweden that has not been powered up since ROCK 1.3.10
15:46 < Mike1> [anders]: i know
15:46 < Mike1> just hang around and see the magic happen :)
15:47 < [anders]> We will see what happens.. I have enough on my plate to worry about as it is.. health, job, money, solicitors, divorce... I will not worry about ROCK as well..
15:48 < Mike1> hehe
15:49 < tcr> divorce?
15:49 < Mike1> tcr: yeah he is getting divorced
15:51 < [anders]> tcr: long story...
15:53 < tcr> nevermind.. going to bank and supermarket right now. cu later, aligator
16:01 < owl> <-- off. cu later
16:25 < tcr> re
16:29 < tcr> hrhr Mike1
16:29 < Mike1> yo tcr
16:30 < tcr> your wrote "and get try to get armony back." in your email, and i first read armory ;) but oh yeah, you apparantly meant harmony 8)
16:31 < tcr> btw Mike1.
16:32 < tcr> you seem to have forgot to CC to clifford, AFAIK he isnt on that specific list
16:32 < tcr> so it's quite likely that he hasnt got your mail
16:33 < Mike1> yeah harmony :)
16:33 < Mike1> damn spanish
16:34 < Mike1> tcr: i will CC to him
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16:45 < [anders]> mmhmmm... SuSE Pro 8.2 will quite likely have Gnome 2.2 in it..
16:45 < [anders]> got to find out when they are likely to ship that...
16:46 < Mike1> [anders]: 1.7 is also on the process of having it
16:47 < [anders]> true, but will 1.7 be as stable as SLPro 8.2 ?
16:47 < Mike1> not yet
16:56 < owl> re
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17:01 < Mike1> wb owl and Lorini
17:01 < Lorini> hi mike
17:02 < owl> hi Lorini
17:02 < Lorini> hi owl
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17:23 < Mike1> *yawn*
17:23 * tcr watching star trek - tng
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17:36 * [anders] off.
17:36 < tcr> good bye anders
17:38 < Mike1> jeg då [anders]
17:40 < owl> bye [anders]
18:09 < Mike1> fsck stable tree team list is moving ...
18:21 < blindcoder> rehi
18:21 < praenti> hi
18:22 < blindcoder> hi praenti
18:22 < owl> re blindcoder, hi praenti
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18:22 < blindcoder> re owli
18:23 < praenti> Mike1: i have send a mail to the list. i also want an alternative tree
18:23 < tcr> terve dal-san
18:23 < praenti> blindcoder: if clifford split the next tree. would you do the job of a maintainer?
18:24 < praenti> blindcoder: i had the idea last night, cause of the problems with 1.6 that the next maintainer should be one of our developers of ingolstadt
18:24 < praenti> cause then there would be more than one deputy also
18:24 < dal-san> moi tcr
18:25 < Mike1> tcr: LyX fixed
18:25 < Mike1> praenti: there more people to kick the maintainers ass you mean?
18:25 < Mike1> *ggg*
18:25 < Mike1> hi praenti btw
18:26 < Mike1> praenti: so that makes you, th, and i wanting and alternate tree
18:26 < blindcoder> praenti: how much brain have you left? (sorry)
18:26 < Mike1> we really need it if we ever want it out
18:26 < praenti> Mike1: *g* thought about a maintainace-team. if one person of us get lost there are others
18:26 < tcr> tahnks Mike1
18:26 < blindcoder> praenti: I currently try not to do too much computer outside of work, so I must respectfully decline
18:27 < Mike1> blindcoder: thats a shame
18:27 < Mike1> praenti: yeah thats also a good reason
18:27 < Mike1> tcr: you are welcome
18:27 < praenti> Mike1: not really. i understnad that
18:27 < blindcoder> Mike1: Well, I currently have 3 girls to take care of :)
18:27 < Mike1> praenti: yeah i understand, but i mean a shame as in it would be nice to have blindy as the next maintainer
18:28 < blindcoder> and my "Wehrpflicht" ahead, so I don't know how much time I will have for it in a few months
18:28 < tcr> praenti: that has been discussed by pjotr and me in early december 02
18:28 < tcr> praenti: he said he'd write to clifford about that IIRc
18:29 < tcr> wehrpflicht is draft .. (wink to mike)
18:29 < Mike1> tcr: so do you support the creating of the 1.6 alternate tree?
18:29 < praenti> tcr: the main advantage we would have that we have more people here in ingolstadt and we can talk very much easier with each other.
18:29 < Mike1> praenti: how about esden?
18:30 < praenti> tcr: mail and irc is also good but is not used by some people...
18:30 < tcr> praenti: still waiting for your mail -- sure you've sent to the list?
18:30 < Mike1> praenti: resend ur email please
18:31 < praenti> Mike1: i will ask him also. i will also ask fake. hope that these two guys will do the job. i will do it when the next tree splits. i dont thing it would help with 1.6
18:32 < tcr> hmm
18:32 < Mike1> praenti: regarding 1.6 it will be replaced very quickly but still is something we should do
18:32 < tcr> pjotr and me came to the resolution that having one maintainer is not a sufficient and thus not perfect
18:32 < Mike1> we are too close to get it stable
18:33 < Mike1> tcr: having a maintainer is ok, to have things under controlm, but there should be one or 2 more people with enought authority to make decitions if the maintainer vanishes for long periots of time
18:34 < tcr> Mike1: yes something like that is what we've proposed.
18:34 < tcr> but i'm writing an answer now
18:34 < tcr> brb
18:35 < tcr> (and could we let this discussion be on the mailinglist, so that all can answer?)
18:35 < praenti> have you my mail already my mail. looks like the list is under high traffic
18:35 < Mike1> praenti: it arrived
18:35 < blindcoder> where is it? I don't see it... only on hackers@ ?
18:36 < tcr> yea blindcoder ;) nothing you should worry about actually
18:36 < Mike1> blindcoder: yeah do not worry
18:36 < blindcoder> okay :)
18:36 < praenti> Mike1: the problem is the fake and esden are too much in 1.7 development, so i dont think they want to do the job with 1.6
18:36 < Mike1> blindcoder: just keep blindcoding :)
18:37 < Mike1> praenti: whata bout you ?
18:37 < blindcoder> hehe :)
18:37 < praenti> Mike1: i would do it. but i dont want to do it alone
18:37 < Mike1> i am not from ing but i will help
18:38 < praenti> Mike1: that would also a solution. but the main problem ist that i dont know how time looks in two weeks for me
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18:38 < praenti> Mike1: next week i have a lot of time
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18:39 < praenti> Mike1: in two weeks i have a job with no internet connection
18:40 < praenti> Mike1: so i can do things only after work. but 1 hour a day should not be the problem
18:40 < tcr> i don't know what you're talking about. 1.6 could be get out within /maximally/ 1month
18:40 < Mike1> praenti: well you have to think about all that, also the empowering 1 or 2 developers will solve issues like that
18:40 < Mike1> tcr: we are talking about comming 1.8 stable tree
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18:40 < Mike1> tcr: 1.6 is almost out but we need a leader and team efford
18:40 < tcr> oh, praenti appears to me to talk about 1.5
18:41 < tcr> 1.6
18:41 < praenti> tcr: yes
18:41 < praenti> the last lines were about 1.6
18:41 < tcr> ok, just listening with one ear ;) writing again now
18:41 < praenti> my suggestion for the leadership at the moment would be pjotr.
18:41 < praenti> to get 1.6 final
18:43 < praenti> ok. but now i must have s.th. to eat. i will be back in a few hours
18:43 * praenti away for eating and firefighter training
18:44 * Mike1 will eat in 15 minutes
18:44 < owl> bye praenti
18:51 < Mike1> *yawn*
18:55 < tcr> Mike1: in the last mail of me, the 'build' in "Well, there maybe still some others build (more regarding to the
18:55 < tcr> running system than to the build)." should be 'bugs'
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19:21 < Mike1> wb tcr
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19:46 * Mike1 is away having lunch with amazing girlfriend
19:47 < tcr> >_< good appetite
20:00 < hannes_> logout
20:00 < hannes_> ya
20:06 < tcr> *g*
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20:43 < owl> *argh*
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20:49 < tsa> hi
20:50 < owl> moin tsa
20:50 < owl> *hrrrrrrrrrrrrr*HATE!
20:51 < owl> cd /msymlink-hook: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory
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20:51 < tsa> hehe
20:51 < owl> someone ever had this error?= (when using scrren)
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20:52 < owl> tsa: don'tlaugh
20:52 < tsa> no - except when i "rm -rf"'d the directory from another terminal..
20:52 < owl> nope... wasnÄ't removes
20:53 < owl> great. also the connection is laggging like hell... blind typing...
20:53 < tsa> no reason to laugh here....my t-dsl connection just died
20:53 < owl> haha
20:53 < tsa> DO NOT LAUGH.
20:54 < owl> :P but. define "died"
20:54 < tsa> (at least i still had this nice and small cisco...otherwise i'd be offline..)
20:54 < owl> congrats.
20:55 < tsa> just a c800...but enough to keep me online..
20:56 < owl> but what happend to your stupid dsl?
20:56 < tsa> i don't know...since about an hour ago, the modem seems to be desynchronized..
20:57 < tsa> ..and it doesn't sync back, already power-cycled it several times, but that didn't help..
20:57 < tsa> perhaps sumthing at the telekom side is broken..
20:57 < owl> aeh. and in german? so that also people who never usesd t-dsl at home, understand it?
20:58 < owl> hm k. sounds more understandable now. thx
20:59 < tsa> ah, you mean in clear wording..
20:59 < tsa> ok.
20:59 < tsa> damn dsl modem fucked up.
20:59 < tsa> t-online sucks.
21:00 < tsa> power-cycle doesn't help.
21:00 < owl> *g* thx.
21:01 < owl> but you can be lucky if you don't have to fsck around with a stupid eumex-TK-"anlake) i geuss ist' even more bad
21:01 < tsa> hehe..
21:02 < owl> you get a call... and sometimes the firmware of the thing crashes... :-/
21:02 < tsa> well...i don't think there's a cisco device that needs windows to work..
21:02 < owl> hehe ;)
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21:03 < tsa> (..and since this is a dialin number at work, i don't have to pay for it (0800 number))
21:03 < owl> hm. you say windows and tcr is lost...
21:03 < tsa> hehe
21:03 < owl> tsa: *argh* that's not fair :P
21:04 < tsa> hehe
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21:05 < owl> uff... i'm off temporarily... the speed here is not acceptable. bbl
21:05 < tsa> hehe..ok
21:05 < tsa> cya
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21:34 < Mike1> re
21:38 < tsa> hi Mike1
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21:45 < owl> re
21:48 < Mike1> yo tsa
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21:49 < Be-El> hi ppl
21:51 < tsa> moin Be-El
21:52 < Be-El> =[5]=> Aborted building package openldap
21:52 < Mike1> 0_o
21:52 < Mike1> Be-El: 1.5?
21:52 < Be-El> did i mention i cannot stand bdb ?
21:52 < Be-El> Mike1: no, it's a 1.7
21:53 < Mike1> oh yeah :)
21:53 < Be-El> two bdb packages, since some applications require bdb3, some bdb4 etc
21:54 < Be-El> .oO ( be-el:~# init debug.....after having a coffee ;-) )
21:57 < tsa> Be-El: hm....some can even be compilde with both versions of bdb - sendmail for example
21:58 < tsa> (but of course only with one at a time)
21:58 < Be-El> there's been some discussion of this topic on the mailing list
21:59 < Be-El> looks like the maintainer of ldap has forgotten to adopt his package
22:00 < tsa> btw..are you already building with gcc 3.2.2?
22:00 < Be-El> tsa: yeap
22:00 < tsa> hm..ok..
22:00 < Be-El> but only the packages that were updated the last days
22:00 < tsa> send fixes fast - i started my build an hour ago..
22:00 * Be-El wants to install rock this weekend ;-)
22:00 < tsa> hehe
22:00 < tsa> applied patches so far: bin6 update, libxslt update
22:00 < Be-El> the coffe got priority
22:00 < tsa> bin86 even
22:01 < Be-El> kde-3.1
22:01 < Be-El> ;-)
22:01 < Be-El> the main reason i've waitet with installing
22:01 < tsa> package/tsa/ctwm/ :-P
22:02 < Be-El> i _need_ my konqueror ;-)
22:02 < owl> gn8
22:02 < tsa> cu owl
22:02 * Be-El has written some little cgi script that crashes konqueror ;-)
22:02 < Be-El> cu owl
22:02 < tsa> Be-El: shouldn't be too difficult to accomplish that one ;)
22:03 < Be-El> no, quite easy....some malformatted mutipart mime payloads and it dies a terrible death ;-)
22:03 < tsa> give galeon a try..
22:03 < kasc> .oO ( O kde*31 <-- first line )
22:03 < tsa> kasc: hehe
22:04 < kasc> ;)
22:04 < tsa> it would be nice to de-select complete repositories
22:04 < tsa> O *rene* ;-)
22:04 < kasc> hehe
22:04 < Be-El> na kinnas, keine boese laesterei hier ;-)
22:04 < tsa> this enlightenment cvs stuff is a pain in the ass..
22:05 < Be-El> or do you want to voluntary overtake all that packages ? ;-)
22:05 < tsa> hrmpf.
22:05 < tsa> preconf stuff still not added to imlib2
22:06 < Be-El> i think its time to start a Be-El repository...with vegastrike from cvs....hrhrhrhr ;-)
22:06 < Be-El> and vendetta.....and a complete SDL
22:07 < Be-El> .oO ( and make it disable by one config option ;-) )
22:07 < tsa> hehe
22:07 < kasc> i tried to make a package out of clanlib, but my harddisk space is far too small to build it
22:08 < Be-El> clanlib ? how many mbs does it use ?
22:09 < kasc> the tarball isnt that much, but during build it takes some hundreds mb
22:09 < tsa> hm...no problem then.
22:09 < tsa> let's add an openoffice package - built from source, of course..
22:09 < tsa> ;)
22:10 * Mike1 will send _some_ patches to update renes tree
22:10 < kasc> and who will donate me another harddisk to build it on? ;)
22:10 < tsa> Mike1: sending a shellscript that moves essential stuff somewhere else (package/mike?) might be easier.. ;-)
22:11 < Mike1> tsa yeah i guess, i am trying to convince cliff and rene to let me maintain gnome2.2
22:11 < tsa> Mike1: hm...i wonder what will happen to the "gnome-20" repository, then..
22:11 < Be-El> _good_ idea....
22:12 < Mike1> tsa: easy answer, will be merged with gnome22, _if_ rene aproves me to do so
22:12 < tsa> (who had that idea of naming it gnome-20 at all???? )
22:12 < Mike1> tsa: guess
22:12 < tsa> i don't really want to know..
22:12 < Mike1> tsa: i thought so :)
22:13 < Be-El> *narf*
22:13 < tsa> having spent 2 more secongs in thinking about this, someone should have come out with "gnome2".. *sigh*
22:13 < tsa> Be-El: what#s broken, then?
22:13 < Be-El> who decided to create libdb-3.3.so and libdb-4.0.so ??
22:13 < Mike1> tsa yeah i know
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22:17 < Be-El> ok...back to advanced package building technologies
22:17 < tsa> hm..i wonder if having two different bdb versions in the same prefix will work at all..
22:18 * Be-El starts reading the documentation
22:19 < tsa> how does the linker determine which version has to be used when it just sees "-ldb"?
22:19 < Be-El> it uses libdb.so ;-)
22:20 < Be-El> that's what the symlinks are for
22:20 < tsa> which currenty links to what?
22:20 < Be-El> nothing....
22:21 < tcr> ldconfig
22:21 < Be-El> there is _no_ libdb.so...
22:21 < tsa> GRMPF.
22:21 < Be-El> and there cannot be a libdb.so....to which library should it point to ?
22:22 < tsa> libraries conflict should not, master yoda he say.
22:22 < Be-El> a clean solution would be building an own libdb for each package that requires a special version, and link it statically
22:22 < Be-El> most packages works fine with libdb-3
22:22 < tsa> ..as it is currently done with for example evolution.
22:22 < Be-El> ack
22:24 < tsa> (a somewhat more advanced linker might solve this problem, too..)
22:28 < Mike1> *yawn*
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22:32 < Be-El> btw...do not try the gnumeric patch i send some days ago
22:34 < Be-El> =[5]=> Finished building package openldap. *lalalala*
22:37 < Mike1> :)
22:37 < tsa> Be-El: send patch
22:37 < tsa> (now)
22:38 < Be-El> what's the best way to modify CPPFLAGS in .conf files ? CPPFLAGS=jfhkfhejk; export CPPFLAGS
22:38 < Be-El> or does rock provide some facility for this ?
22:38 < tsa> nope.
22:38 < tsa> they already might be set to some value.
22:39 < tsa> CPPFLAGS="$CPPFLAGS asdlkjasdkj" export CPPFLAGS
22:39 < Be-El> ok
22:50 < Mike1> :)
22:51 < Mike1> tsa: package update patches for rene's repos sent, have fun
22:51 < tsa> ah, nice.
22:51 < Mike1> tsa: there should be more but i will settle to only 14 today
22:51 < Be-El> openldap patch sent
22:52 < Be-El> Mike1: and include a patch that removes gaspell completely
22:52 < Mike1> Be-El: *ggg* it crossed my mind, but i did not include it... _yet_
22:52 < Mike1> :)
22:53 < Be-El> gaspell is more than deprecated...who ever created the package has never tested it
22:54 < Mike1> Be-El: i could tell you who is maintaining it for ROCK, but i guess you will know already :)
22:54 < Mike1> mike@thor:/mnt/build/rock/rock-src-1.7 > ./scripts/Download -list-missing | grep rene | wc -l
22:54 < Mike1> 179
22:55 < Mike1> i can't belive this
22:55 < Mike1> and thats just he's repos
22:55 < Mike1> he """maintains""" many more packages than that
22:55 < Be-El> ./scripts/Download -list-missing | wc -l
22:55 < Be-El> 0
22:56 < tsa> hm..
22:56 < Mike1> Be-El: i am downloading the files, i just wanted to see how many packages rene has
22:56 < tcr> Be-El: man 1 ld
22:56 < tsa> I've only got problems with mplayer-fonts...
22:56 < tcr> /-soname
22:56 < tsa> (download location too slow)
22:56 < tcr> Be-El: that looks like it could help in the db issue
22:57 < Be-El> tcr: it builds without changing the libdb library name
22:58 < tcr> oups. damn, i apparantly cant concentrate anymore
22:58 < Mike1> i missed one patch :)
22:58 < tsa> Downloading download/jimmy/mplayer-fonts/bulgarian-font-maritza-bold-1.0.2.tar.gz ...
22:59 < tsa> that one..
23:08 < Mike1> ah 15 patches
23:08 * Mike1 satisfied for now
23:08 * Mike1 away sleeping
23:08 < Mike1> n8 all
23:09 < Be-El> cu Mike1
23:10 < tsa> ok, all patches (openldap, *rene from mike) applied to build tree.
23:10 < tsa> libxslt.patch
23:10 < tsa> bin86.patch
23:10 < tsa> imlib2.conf: added preconf as in imlib2_loaders
23:15 < tsa> avifile.diff applied, too.
23:15 < tsa> ..and i want my dsl back.
23:19 < tcr> Be-El: hmm. just thought about that issue... Another solution would be to create special linker names for each db version, for instance libdb3.so and libdb4.so. libdb.so itself points to the most recent version, in this case libdb.4.so. LDFLAGS of all programms that explicetly needs a special db version should be set to LDFLAGS="$LDFLAGS -ldb3" (for example). AFAIK LDFLAGS is appended to the command list of all ld invocations and that's why -
23:19 < tcr> ldb3 should used instead of the previous -ldb (that has been passed to ld in the makefile)
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