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--- Log opened Tue Mar 04 00:00:39 2003 --- Day changed Tue Mar 04 2003 00:20 < esden> hi all 00:21 < _NULL> hi esden 00:21 < esden> owl ... why this nick ? 00:21 < _NULL> cuz i'm in "best" mood since ever... 00:26 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50817278.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 01:26 < kasc> moin 01:26 < _NULL> hi kasc 01:27 < kasc> hi owl :) 01:27 < _NULL> aeh... i'm _NULL 01:28 < esden> hi kasc 01:28 * -> esden kicks owl 01:29 * _NULL kicks esden "want more? *vbeg*" 01:30 < esden> yes sure ... everytime ;-) 01:30 < _NULL> *hrhr* 02:23 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082D807.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("*plopp*") 03:44 < fake> evening... 03:48 < fake> ... 03:55 -!- eperm [~hannes@fortuna7.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 03:55 < eperm> hi 03:55 < fake> hi eperm ;) 03:55 < eperm> :) 03:57 -!- tibit_ [~tibit@p508AB15B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:03 -!- tibit [~tibit@p508AABE6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04:04 -!- netrunner_ [~netrunner@p508029D9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04:09 -!- eperm [~hannes@fortuna7.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("leaving") 04:12 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090B948.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:16 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090B998.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:54 -!- Satg [~Satg@196.40.66.18] has joined #rocklinux 04:55 -!- Satg [~Satg@196.40.66.18] has quit (Client Quit) 04:55 -!- Satg [~Satg@196.40.66.18] has joined #rocklinux 04:55 -!- SatgX [~Satg@196.40.66.18] has joined #rocklinux 04:55 -!- SatgX [~Satg@196.40.66.18] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 05:40 < Satg> zzzzzzz 06:00 -!- netrunner_ [~netrunner@p50802813.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 06:35 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 06:35 < Mike1> moin 06:39 < blindcoder> moin 06:40 < Mike1> how are you blindy? 06:41 < blindcoder> still a bit sleepy, but otherwise (almost) fine, thanks. What about you? 06:42 < Mike1> i am ok thx, working late .... 06:42 < blindcoder> bah, working late really sucks... but I'm working early which isn't much better >_< 06:43 < Mike1> haha 06:43 < Mike1> blindcoder: damn sendmail updates will keep me up all night 06:44 < blindcoder> oh... 06:44 < blindcoder> Well, I haven't ever updated sendmail. I was happy that I got it running ONCE, let alone more than once 06:44 < Mike1> blindcoder: you heard about the bug right? 06:44 < blindcoder> not really... 06:45 < Mike1> mm.. 06:45 < Mike1> mom 06:45 < Mike1> https://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-07.html 06:45 < blindcoder> *click* 06:46 < Mike1> hi SMP btw 06:48 < blindcoder> nice 07:02 < Mike1> blindcoder: da 07:53 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: tfing, rolla, tibit_, _NULL, ringo30 07:55 -!- Netsplit over, joins: tibit_, tfing, rolla, ringo30, _NULL 09:12 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rolla, tfing, tibit_, _NULL, ringo30 09:12 -!- Netsplit over, joins: tibit_, tfing, rolla, ringo30, _NULL 09:46 -!- Tecno_Dud [~ANit@62.150.139.191] has joined #rocklinux 09:46 < Tecno_Dud> Greetinz #Rocklinux 09:47 < Tecno_Dud> Error ########################################## Complete 09:48 < Tecno_Dud> Verifing - scanninh 09:48 < Tecno_Dud> No respond -- 09:48 < Tecno_Dud> Sencing Private Talk 09:49 < Tecno_Dud> Enabling Private Talk -5t sec 09:49 < Tecno_Dud> 4 09:49 < Tecno_Dud> 3 09:49 < Tecno_Dud> 2 09:49 < Tecno_Dud> 1 09:49 < Tecno_Dud> disconnect 09:49 < Tecno_Dud> now running private talk 09:49 < Tecno_Dud> Beep * Beep * Beep ************************************** 09:51 < Mike1> Tecno_Dud: are you bored? 09:52 < Tecno_Dud> Vertual reality - (ON) 09:52 < Tecno_Dud> Yeah!! sort off :) 09:53 < Tecno_Dud> Mike1 : Help :( 09:53 < Mike1> Tecno_Dud: what do you need help with? 09:54 < Tecno_Dud> Me = XP >> Install rocklinux (problem with - SPACE ) 09:55 < Mike1> Tecno_Dud: you cannot install rock on XP partition ... 09:55 < Tecno_Dud> ## Have 2 Partitions -------> c: /d: 09:56 < Mike1> Tecno_Dud: rock will need different type of partitions 09:56 < Tecno_Dud> -------------------------------------------------@@##!! 09:56 < Mike1> Tecno_Dud: have you already read the ROCK Linux Guide 09:56 < Mike1> ? 09:56 < Tecno_Dud> Yeah - (YES) 09:57 < Tecno_Dud> Need help - new to LINUX 09:57 < Mike1> ok tell me whats ur exact problem? 09:57 < Tecno_Dud> fdisk.! right 09:57 < Mike1> blindcoder: alive? 09:57 < Mike1> Tecno_Dud: man fdisk :) 09:58 < Tecno_Dud> tried that no responce 09:58 < Mike1> what rock version are you trying to install? 10:00 < Tecno_Dud> >>>----Rock-intel-1.4.0----<<< 10:00 < Mike1> Tecno_Dud: that release is _old_ 10:00 < Mike1> go to https://iso.rocklinux.de/ 10:00 < Mike1> there will be newer isos there 10:00 < Tecno_Dud> alright..! 10:01 < Tecno_Dud> hai u ever used this linux 10:01 < Mike1> BTW using drock would be very usefull for you if you are really a newbie 10:01 < Mike1> Tecno_Dud: 1.4.0? yeah 2 years ago 10:02 < Tecno_Dud> ok..! 10:02 < Mike1> Tecno_Dud: in drock linux there is cfdisk which is more friendly for newbies :) 10:03 < Tecno_Dud> o 10:03 < Tecno_Dud> what about mandrack 10:03 < Mike1> hahaha 10:03 < Mike1> Tecno_Dud: i think you don't wanna hear my opinion about it. 10:03 < Mike1> :) 10:05 < Tecno_Dud> kk..! 10:05 < Tecno_Dud> where is the best place for newbies 10:06 < Tecno_Dud> like from where u learned these stuff when u where a newbies 10:06 < Mike1> Tecno_Dud: well, man pages are certainly a very good resource, also the Linux Howtos go to https://www.linuxdocs.org/ 10:07 < Mike1> Tecno_Dud: IRC is indeed one of the fastest ways to get help 10:07 < Mike1> for general questions regarding Linux its always recomemded to join #linux or #linux-help 10:07 < Tecno_Dud> yeah..! in my installation..! i reached to the ----------> rock linux shell > 10:08 < Mike1> if you are willing to learn about apache or sendmail for exaple you can find nice docs for it in their oficial websites 10:08 < Mike1> Tecno_Dud: _GOOD_ 10:08 < Mike1> Tecno_Dud: now select */* 10:08 < Mike1> then install :) 10:08 < Tecno_Dud> then i used the command df 10:09 < Tecno_Dud> this is what i got............ 10:09 < Tecno_Dud> device boot start end block id system 10:09 < Tecno_Dud> p1 * 1 1460 11727418+ c win95 Fat32 (lba) 10:09 < Tecno_Dud> p2 1461 2482 8209215 f win95 Ext'd (lba) 10:09 < Tecno_Dud> p5 1461 2482 8209183+ b win95 fat32 10:10 < Mike1> Tecno_Dud: you need ext2fs partition to install rock, not fat32 paritions 10:10 < Tecno_Dud> how do i make that 10:11 < Mike1> run mke2fs to the partition you wish to use 10:11 < Mike1> also remeber you need a swap partition 10:11 < blindcoder> Tacif you're new to Linux then ROCK is definately NOT your Distribution of choice 10:11 < Mike1> Tecno_Dud: you really have to read the ROCK Linux Guide again, this is all explained there 10:12 < Mike1> *gg* 10:12 < blindcoder> I'd suggest something like SuSE (www.suse.com), Red Hat (www.redhat.com) or Debian (www.debian.org) 10:12 < Tecno_Dud> now i searched every where for a tutorial on partion making in rocklinux 10:12 < Tecno_Dud> got rubbish 10:12 < Mike1> Tecno_Dud: just read the ROCK Linux guide, it will tell you everything you need 10:12 < blindcoder> Tecno_Dud: ROCK is targeted at people who want to build their own distribution as well as people with years of hands-on experience on shell-scripting, kernel-configuration and debugging C-Code 10:13 < Tecno_Dud> ohh..! so i went for a proffetional linux..! 10:14 < Tecno_Dud> ohh.! i did not know ..! 10:14 < blindcoder> Tecno_Dud: you went for a Distribution Build-Kit, and I think hat's not what you are searching for 10:14 < Mike1> Tecno_Dud: guess now you know :) 10:14 < Tecno_Dud> yeah ok 10:14 < blindcoder> personally, I started with SuSE some 3 years ago 10:15 < Tecno_Dud> so i should go for that 10:15 < blindcoder> went to debian after a year and then, 6 months ago got here 10:16 < Mike1> blindcoder: never played with slackware? 10:16 < blindcoder> Yes, I would advise you to do so, cause you can learn much of the Basics and some good advanced stuff from it 10:16 < blindcoder> Mike1: nope 10:17 < Tecno_Dud> will u get word prossecor in it too 10:17 < Tecno_Dud> in suse 10:17 < blindcoder> sure 10:18 < blindcoder> SuSE has the complete KDE Desktop Environment which includes KOffice 10:18 < kasc> moin 10:18 < blindcoder> KOffice has word processing, Speadsheet, Presentation et al 10:18 < blindcoder> moin kasc 10:18 < blindcoder> kasc: we need to package more games so clifford will give us our games/ category 10:18 < blindcoder> brb telephone 10:19 < Tecno_Dud> device boot start end block id system 10:19 < Tecno_Dud> p1 * 1 1460 11727418+ c win95 Fat32 (lba) 10:19 < Tecno_Dud> p2 1461 2482 8209215 f win95 Ext'd (lba) 10:19 < Tecno_Dud> p5 1461 2482 8209183+ b win95 fat32 10:19 < kasc> will start looking for further games to add as soon as i wake up... 10:20 < Tecno_Dud> SuSE 8.1 ------> what about this version 10:20 < Tecno_Dud> is that the latest 10:21 < Tecno_Dud> its sayes at the download ------------> SuSE-8.1-LiveEval-i386 10:21 < blindcoder> Tecno_Dud: yes that is the latest 10:21 < Tecno_Dud> SuSE-8.1-LiveEval-i386 -- whats liveeval 10:22 < Tecno_Dud> ((((((((((LiveEval))))))))))))))^^^ 10:22 -!- Tecno_Dud [~ANit@62.150.139.191] has quit (Excess Flood) 10:24 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rolla, tfing, tibit_, _NULL, ringo30 10:24 -!- Netsplit over, joins: tibit_, tfing, rolla, ringo30, _NULL 10:24 -!- Tecno_Dud [~ANit@62.150.139.191] has joined #rocklinux 10:26 < Tecno_Dud> Greezinz Room - #rocklinux 10:26 < Tecno_Dud> PLS reply with STATUS 10:26 < Tecno_Dud> Sencing -- 1 10:26 < Tecno_Dud> 10 10:26 < Tecno_Dud> 9 10:27 < Tecno_Dud> 8 10:27 < Tecno_Dud> 7 10:27 < Tecno_Dud> 6 10:27 < Tecno_Dud> 5 10:27 < Tecno_Dud> 4 10:27 < Tecno_Dud> 3 10:27 < Tecno_Dud> 2 10:27 < Tecno_Dud> 1 10:27 < Tecno_Dud> 0 10:27 < Tecno_Dud> Now engaging Private CHAT >> 10:28 < Tecno_Dud> Pls wait while SCANNING |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| DONE 10:28 < Tecno_Dud> Room = #rocklinux 10:28 < Tecno_Dud> Users = 24 10:29 < Tecno_Dud> PLs wait.. .. 10:29 < Tecno_Dud> .. 10:29 < Tecno_Dud> .. 10:29 < Tecno_Dud> . 10:29 < Tecno_Dud> /op /mode # +ooo $$1 $2 $3 10:29 < Tecno_Dud> /dop /mode # -ooo $$1 $2 $3 10:29 < Tecno_Dud> /j /join #$$1 $2- 10:29 < Tecno_Dud> /p /part # 10:29 < Tecno_Dud> /n /names #$$1 10:29 < Tecno_Dud> /w /whois $$1 10:29 < Tecno_Dud> /k /kick # $$1 10:29 < Tecno_Dud> /q /query $$1 10:29 < Tecno_Dud> /send /dcc send $1 $2 10:29 < Tecno_Dud> /chat /dcc chat $1 10:29 < Tecno_Dud> /ping /ctcp $$1 ping 10:30 < Tecno_Dud> ================================================================= NOW EXITTING 10:30 < Tecno_Dud> Beep . beep . beep .. ########################################## DOn 10:31 < Tecno_Dud> Now Checking User - aszlig 10:33 < Tecno_Dud> NO move ment detected ( USER - ASLING ) 10:33 < Tecno_Dud> NOW checking user - blindcoder 10:36 < Tecno_Dud> program intrepted 10:36 < Tecno_Dud> #### ERROR ###### 10:36 < Tecno_Dud> Pls wait 10:36 < Tecno_Dud> ............. 10:36 < Tecno_Dud> ............. 10:36 < Tecno_Dud> .............. 10:36 < Tecno_Dud> .............. 10:36 < Tecno_Dud> ................... 10:36 < Tecno_Dud> ................ 10:36 < Tecno_Dud> ................... 10:36 < Tecno_Dud> ................ 10:36 < Tecno_Dud> ....................... 10:36 < Tecno_Dud> ..................... 10:36 < Tecno_Dud> ........................ 10:36 < Tecno_Dud> ...................... 10:37 < Tecno_Dud> ......... beep 10:37 < Tecno_Dud> .......beep ................ beep 10:37 < kasc> Tecno_Dud: could you pls STOP THAT CRAP!!! 10:37 < Tecno_Dud> movement detected 10:37 < Tecno_Dud> user (KASC) 10:38 < Tecno_Dud> now switching to vertual reallty 10:38 < Tecno_Dud> Hello..! 10:38 < Tecno_Dud> .............. 10:38 < Tecno_Dud> .................. 10:38 < Tecno_Dud> ................ 10:38 < Tecno_Dud> .................... 10:39 < Tecno_Dud> beep ..! 10:39 < Tecno_Dud> Hello..! 10:39 < Tecno_Dud> beep................? 10:39 < Tecno_Dud> line coppied ((( <kasc> Tecno_Dud: could you pls STOP THAT CRAP!!! ))) 10:40 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has quit ("Client Exiting") 10:40 < Tecno_Dud> analizing user kasc ................ pls wait 10:41 < Tecno_Dud> ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| pls wait 10:42 < Tecno_Dud> ################################ DONE 10:42 < Tecno_Dud> kasc 10:42 < Tecno_Dud> just me 10:42 < Tecno_Dud> ~kasc@p5090B998.dip.t-dialin.net 10:42 < Tecno_Dud> #rocklinux 10:42 < Tecno_Dud> 4mins 4secs 10:42 < Tecno_Dud> none 10:42 < Tecno_Dud> irc.freenode.net https://freenode.net/ 10:42 < Tecno_Dud> Normal user 10:42 < Tecno_Dud> STATUS ---- :) 10:42 < Mike1> Tecno_Dud: please stop that. 10:43 < Tecno_Dud> humm..! 10:43 < Tecno_Dud> I am feeling board 10:43 < kasc> Never knew an /ignore can be THAT releaving :) 10:43 < Tecno_Dud> :( 10:43 < blindcoder> kasc: hehe :) 10:44 < Tecno_Dud> HAA 10:44 < Mike1> Tecno_Dud: its really unpolite to _FLOOD_ a channel in the way you are doing it 10:44 < Tecno_Dud> I am not flooding 10:44 < Mike1> _YES_ you are 10:44 < Tecno_Dud> alright..! 10:45 < Tecno_Dud> but u did not say a word 10:45 < Tecno_Dud> where where u all this time 10:45 < Mike1> Tecno_Dud: because we are busy. 10:45 < blindcoder> so what? 10:45 < Tecno_Dud> then say so..! 10:45 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E4904A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:45 < blindcoder> Do you think we're here all day to answer any question that might pop up? 10:45 < Mike1> Tecno_Dud: just ask questions and we will answer when we can. 10:45 < Mike1> Tecno_Dud: isn't it obvious? 10:45 < esden> good morning 10:46 < blindcoder> moin esden :) 10:46 < Tecno_Dud> MOVE MENT DETECTED 10:46 < Tecno_Dud> LOLZ..! 10:46 < blindcoder> here we go again *sigh* 10:46 < kasc> moin esden 10:46 < Tecno_Dud> just joken 10:46 < Mike1> esden: FINALLY! 10:47 < esden> hmm ... what do you understand under joking ? 10:47 < esden> flooding the channel is not joking ... 10:47 < Tecno_Dud> i typed those alright 10:47 < Mike1> esden: could you please take care of this damn flodding matter! 10:47 < esden> Mike1: with plesure ... 10:47 < kasc> .oO (And flooding before i have reached my coffine level is even more evil) 10:48 < Tecno_Dud> hai..! 10:48 < esden> kasc: I can understand you ... 10:48 < Mike1> esden: BTW Gott segne dich mein freund 10:48 < Tecno_Dud> kick me baby one more time..! 10:48 < Mike1> esden: this have just gone so far ... 10:48 < Tecno_Dud> lolz 10:48 < esden> Mike1: gott segne dich mein freund 10:48 < blindcoder> esden: for times like this I love bChat's /mute command :) 10:49 < Tecno_Dud> tell me some cool sites to browse 10:49 < Tecno_Dud> so i can leave u allone 10:49 < esden> Tecno_Dud: do I have to ... can you not simply behave like a normal ? 10:49 < Tecno_Dud> alright..! i will 10:49 < Mike1> Tecno_Dud: we are giving you a chance 10:49 < Mike1> else we will need to ban you . 10:49 < Tecno_Dud> UR so Kind 10:49 < esden> blindcoder: I feel like in bchat ;-) *sigh* 10:49 < Tecno_Dud> TANX 10:50 * -> esden feels irony rays 10:50 < Tecno_Dud> chat some intresting stuff 10:51 < esden> Tecno_Dud: only for animating you ? forget it 10:51 < Tecno_Dud> :) 10:51 < Tecno_Dud> hai..! i am 16 here 10:52 < tcr> moin 10:52 < Tecno_Dud> humm..? 10:52 < esden> so go to the kindergarten channel ... if you want animation 10:52 < esden> moin tcr 10:52 < Tecno_Dud> i need geeks.! 10:52 < Tecno_Dud> check out my site 10:52 < esden> Tecno_Dud: you will not find geeks behaving like a child 10:53 < tcr> what's the current matter 10:53 < Tecno_Dud> alright..! boss .. give me some work to do..! 10:54 < esden> search you some ... there is enough for everyone in the wide world of the net 10:54 < Mike1> esden: are we really going somewhere with this conversation? 10:54 < esden> Mike1: dunno ... seems not ... 10:54 < Tecno_Dud> alright..! 10:54 < esden> Mike1: but I am not in mood of raw force ;-) 10:55 < Mike1> esden: i would say ur wasting valious coding quality time 10:55 < blindcoder> Mike1: you forgot, esden is a lazy student :) 10:55 < Tecno_Dud> i wanna become like u guys 10:55 < esden> blindcoder: >_< yes ... I do like you too ;-) 10:55 < blindcoder> Tecno_Dud: then you should first try to grow up 10:56 < esden> well said blindcoder ;-) 10:56 < Mike1> blindy oh yeah true he is _LAZY_ 10:56 < Tecno_Dud> ok..! 10:56 < tcr> someone interesting in a small library providing exceptions (try{..} catch{..}) for C? 10:56 < Tecno_Dud> grow up..! 10:56 < blindcoder> tcr: try-catch for C?? 10:56 < tcr> i'm currently coding it ;) 10:56 < tcr> yea 10:56 < blindcoder> sweet 10:57 < blindcoder> finally I'm able to use pointers without segfaulting! Woo-Hooo! :) 10:57 < esden> tcr: sweet ... but why not simply use C++ ? 10:57 < tcr> https://freebits.de/trash/libexception-0.1-dev.tar.gz 10:57 < blindcoder> tcr: will try to try it as soon as I'm home 10:59 < tcr> well, i'm pissed off code like if (malloc() == NULL) some_error_func(); 10:59 < blindcoder> ??? mallco() returning NULL?? erm... 10:59 < tcr> yup 11:00 < tcr> if memory is exhausted 11:00 < blindcoder> uwacha.... maybe I should start checking for something like this, too :/ 11:01 < tcr> and with that library, you just encapsulate practically your whole programm with TRY { } CATCH(ERR_ALLOC) { some_error_func(); } 11:01 < esden> tcr: and try { malloc() } catch (MemoryOutException) { some_error_func() } is better ? 11:01 < Tecno_Dud> is this all c++ 11:01 < tcr> further you encapsulate malloc in an own function: void* my_malloc(size_t size) { void *new = malloc(size); if (new == NULL) THROW(ERR_ALLOC); return new; } 11:02 < tcr> now you use everywhere my_malloc and all is fine 11:02 < Tecno_Dud> now you use everywhere my_malloc and all is fine 11:03 -!- TheNight [~night@p5084EE8A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:03 < tcr> i only have to write a small draft about how to use my library, and then I can go for 0.1 11:04 < tcr> aim of 1.0 is to have thread support ;) 11:04 -!- Tecno_Dud [~ANit@62.150.139.191] has left #rocklinux () 11:04 < esden> ha ... that is fine ... 11:04 < blindcoder> WOOHOOO 11:05 < esden> blindcoder: ;-) ... and that without violance ... 11:05 < blindcoder> sad, but okay :) 11:05 < tcr> yeah, just start some geek talk and all normals will be scared away ;) 11:05 < esden> rofl 11:05 < esden> tcr: well done ;-) 11:07 < blindcoder> brb 11:10 < esden> hmm ... I think I can go back to work now ... 11:10 * -> esden wants to get his wlan card working in his laptop 11:11 * tcr wants a laptop at all 11:11 < blindcoder> esden why doesn't it work? 11:13 < tcr> thanks in advance for testing the library... i'm not 100% sure if it works nearly like c++ 11:14 < tcr> i''m going to do some sport 11:14 * Mike1 is going to sleep :) 11:14 < Mike1> n8 all 11:15 < esden> hmm ... the latest kernel is 2.4.20 ... that sounds not good 11:15 < esden> I heard that it has problems with ext3 ? 11:17 < esden> blindcoder: the last time I have tried it it was not working ... 11:17 < esden> it was freezing my laptop 11:19 < tcr> gn8 Mike1 11:20 < kasc> ah, coffine level reached, time to become productive 11:23 < blindcoder> esden: oh... 11:23 < tibit_> Is java working with ROCK 1.7 esp. as a browser plugin? 11:23 < blindcoder> kasc: lucky bastard... I still have not gotten my new coffee-machine @work 11:28 < esden> tcr: no it is not afaik 11:28 < esden> ok ... me needs some food ... 11:28 < esden> cu l8er boys and girls 11:29 < tcr> cya 11:30 < kasc> blindcoder: try black tea ;) 11:35 < blindcoder> kasc: that's just not the same >_< 11:36 < tcr> tibit_: i don't think it'll natively, you certainly have to handle that yourself 11:36 < tcr> it'll ne so 11:36 < tcr> be 11:36 < tcr> damn 11:38 < tibit_> tcr: Ok, I'll try if i can get it going 11:38 < tibit_> There are at least gcc-3 compiled j2re available at blackdown.org 11:44 < kasc> blindcoder: it is if you know how to make it ;) 11:45 < blindcoder> tibit_: the Java Plugin is NOT available for systems that use gcc 3.0 or newer 11:45 < tibit_> blindcoder: hmm 11:45 < blindcoder> the RE's are there but the plugin doesn't work (at least I didn't get it to work) 11:46 < blindcoder> kasc: hmm... well, doesn't matter, I have no black tea here >_< 11:46 < kasc> could anyone lend me a hand with an .desc file? I keep getting syntax errors but i cant find any bad syntax... 11:47 < blindcoder> kasc: post it to me by query 11:51 < Satg> Good night people 11:51 < blindcoder> n8 11:52 -!- Satg [~Satg@196.40.66.18] has quit ("Client Exiting") 12:26 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E4904A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 12:35 < tibit_> Is there any possibility in ROCK-1.7 to continue a Build-Pkg after it failed during compile? 12:36 < blindcoder> no 12:36 < tibit_> hmm, thanx (mozilla just takes so long to compile) 12:45 -!- TheNight [~night@p5084EE8A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("cu") 13:01 < kasc> tibit_: besides fixing the problem? ;) 13:18 < tibit_> kasc: fixing the problem is (as always) a piece of cake ;) 13:21 < kasc> the sweet most one ;) 13:22 < tibit_> hmm, usually I get offered beer not cake for fixing stuff ;) 13:24 < kasc> beer at this time of day? nahh... 13:25 < tibit_> Real men can drink beer any time! 13:27 < kasc> but drinking beer so short after getting up makes one unproductive and automagically reduces the ammount of beer one can earn ;) 13:28 < blindcoder> kasc: you'd be surprised about some code I punshed out while being not-really-drunk-but-almost 13:29 < blindcoder> well, at least _I_ was :) 13:30 < tibit_> although after a few bugs it can get *very* difficult to find even the simpliest bugs 13:30 < kasc> its not being drunk that reduces unproductivity but the ammount of liquid filling your blatter ;) 13:30 < tibit_> s/few bugs/ few beers/ 13:30 < blindcoder> kasc: okay, I agree with that :) 13:31 < blindcoder> tibit_: I don't talk bug hunting, but feature creeping :) 13:31 < tibit_> blindcoder: Yeah, that works well with beer :) 14:50 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rolla, tfing, tibit_, _NULL, ringo30 14:50 -!- Netsplit over, joins: tibit_, tfing, rolla, ringo30, _NULL 14:53 < tibit_> If anyones interested, I got phoenix-cvs + Java working 14:55 < tibit_> the "trick" was to use the gcc-3.2 compiled java from blackdown.org 15:13 -!- reutter [~daniel@62.245.161.0] has joined #rocklinux 15:14 -!- reutter [~daniel@62.245.161.0] has left #rocklinux () 15:36 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@p50800CD4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:44 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p50800E17.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15:47 -!- Kamui-chan [~DragonLor@p50807843.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:47 -!- Kamui-chan [~DragonLor@p50807843.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:23 < ringo30> anyone know anything about mozilla going mad, and maybe a quick fix ? 16:24 < ringo30> s/quick// 16:36 < _NULL> morning 16:37 < rolla> re 17:15 < ringo30> Is there a way to log all new kernel processes ? 17:51 -!- oliver_ [~oliver@pD9E1005C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:52 < _NULL> hi oliver_ 17:52 < oliver_> hi _NULL 18:00 -!- oliver_ [~oliver@pD9E1005C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 18:13 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pc19.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:36 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pc19.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit ("leaving") 19:13 -!- TheNight [~night@p5084EE8A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:14 < TheNight> hi 19:15 < _NULL> hi TheNight 19:41 -!- Bolivar [~none@12.15.80.10] has joined #rocklinux 19:44 -!- Bolivar [~none@12.15.80.10] has quit (Client Quit) 19:53 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-078-085.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:53 < _NULL> hi daja77 19:54 < daja77> hi _NULL 19:54 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has joined #rocklinux 20:21 < daja77> if anyone needs a quick tip to get rich, just ask me 20:21 -!- Delicik [~taner@62.29.92.73] has joined #rocklinux 20:22 < rudsleep> hi all 20:22 -!- rudsleep is now known as ruddur 20:22 -!- Delicik [~taner@62.29.92.73] has left #rocklinux ("Client exiting") 20:22 < daja77> hi ruddur 20:27 < ruddur> hi daja77 20:31 < netrunner_> hi * - the new kid on the rock is there :) 20:32 < netrunner_> how can I repeat only all the chowns for the packages? It finished the build successfully, but since I built as normal user, I was not allowed to chown root a lot of files. 20:32 < _NULL> hi netrunner_, daja77, ruddur 20:32 < ruddur> hi _NULL 20:35 < daja77> wb _NULL, wanna get rich just ask me ;) 20:39 < daja77> I'm cynical today, so don't be afraid 20:39 < _NULL> daja77: well then. 20:40 < _NULL> i'm always cynical. so - what's the rpboelm? 20:40 < daja77> dunno 20:41 < netrunner_> hey, it's carneval monday, cheer up! :) 20:41 < daja77> I think, I'll like tomorrow 20:42 < _NULL> netrunner_: it's carneval. and i _hate_ car4nelval 20:42 < daja77> That's why tomorrow you'll have fun 20:42 < _NULL> not really.. but... don't mind 20:43 < daja77> then I'll reduce it to it will be slightly better than today 20:44 < daja77> netrunner_: why you didn't compile as root? 20:46 < netrunner_> deja77: I do not usually work as root. I compile everything as user, then just make install as root. a bit paranoid, i know, but think, you are downloading from a lot of sources, if somebody has a tampered package? 20:46 < daja77> netrunner_: That's fine for normal use, but when compiling rock it is advised to compile it as root 20:47 < daja77> netrunner_: btw, compile it on an installation that you don't wanna use afterwards might be a solution 20:48 < ruddur> yes and the light is 20:49 < daja77> huh? 20:49 < ruddur> i have a problem with no rc.local in my 1.7.rc3.iso 20:50 < daja77> still, why? 20:50 < ruddur> resolved 20:50 < daja77> well done ;) 20:50 < ruddur> i create an rc.local in /etc/rc.d/init 20:51 < daja77> hmm, thought it has to be in /etc/rc.d 20:51 < ruddur> and ln -s /etc/rc.d/init/rc.local /etc/rc.d/rc2.d/S99local 20:51 -!- reenoo [reno@ganten.psychologie.uni-bremen.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:51 < ruddur> and that's all 20:52 < daja77> ok, fine if it works 20:52 < _NULL> hi reenoo 20:52 < daja77> hi reenoo 20:52 < reenoo> hi 20:52 < ruddur> rc.local is loaded at the end of boot sequance 20:52 < ruddur> rc.local is loaded at the end of boot sequence 20:52 < daja77> I know 20:53 < ruddur> i ask you in two days 20:53 < ruddur> hum 20:53 < ruddur> it's best to discovery alone 20:54 < ruddur> my english it's little poor 20:54 < daja77> no offense meant, but what is your native language 20:54 < ruddur> i'm french belgium 20:55 < daja77> unfortunately, my french is too bad to get better results 20:55 < netrunner_> daja: is it possible to repeat the chown's? do the package have some kind of after-build scripts? 20:55 < ruddur> it's nothing 20:56 < daja77> chown -R $directory 20:56 < ruddur> i learn english with irc and doc of software in 10 years of computer 20:56 < daja77> fine 20:57 < ruddur> thanks 20:58 < daja77> netrunner_: do you just mean chown or chroot? 21:00 -!- Dan__ [~chabrol@titan.chabrol.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:00 < Dan__> Hi all! 21:01 < daja77> hi Dan__ 21:01 < reenoo> hi Dan__ 21:01 < ruddur> hi Dan__ 21:01 < Dan__> I've a question about Build-Pkg: The manual states this can overwrite configfiles. Are the packages not build in the environment created by stage 0? 21:02 < _NULL> hi Dan__ 21:03 < Dan__> only hi-bots online? ;-) 21:03 < netrunner_> daja: as far as I can scroll back, all of the packages say the following: $time Building $package \n reading package config... \n Building ... \n running main build function ... \n chown: Change ownership of '$fullpathtofile: operation not permittet 21:04 < daja77> of course you cannot chmod to root as a user 21:05 < netrunner_> daja: Yes I know. But how can I repeat that process without rebuilding all packages? 21:06 < netrunner_> daja: or shall I just do a chown -R root build/* 21:06 < daja77> well, it seems that the packages couldn't complete their build, so you have to rebuild them anyway 21:07 < daja77> you can try that, no warranty 21:08 < netrunner_> daja: ah - now that you mention it - sorry, you're right, there's only the kernel in the build/root dir. 21:08 < Dan__> no one has an idea about Build-Pkg? 21:08 < netrunner_> .o( and I was happy that it had finished in just one day ) 21:09 < netrunner_> Dan: not me, just walking my first steps on rocks ;) 21:09 < daja77> Dan_ wait a minute just checking 21:10 < Dan__> like me ;) now 1.7 compiles. yesterday it havent workes because my gcc from drock 1.5 was too old. yawn! 21:10 < Dan__> -> to netrunner_ 21:13 < Dan__> daja77: thx - because if it really overwrites config, how would you keep your system up to date. sometimes you have to rebuild a updated package at the same machine where it going to be installed. 21:14 < netrunner_> Dan: I think I read something about it only overwrites unmodified files ... but do not trust me :) 21:14 < daja77> Dan__: what config do you mean and what man page did you read? 21:15 < Dan__> netrunner_: quote from doc "Warning: Re-building a package might overwrite or remove config files. If 21:15 < Dan__> you don't want this, use pkg-update with a pre-build binary package." 21:16 < Dan__> netrunner_: this is in the Build-Pkg section of ./scripts/Help 21:19 < daja77> well, iirc the packages are build in a sandbox chroot environment, so I don't see the danger 21:19 < daja77> but anyway if you're afraid of losing config files save them before building 21:21 < Dan__> daja77: maybe this lines was inserted because the danger could be the update and not the build - and it's a bit strange formulated ;) 21:22 < daja77> Dan__: possible, anyway just save needed config file before doing strange things ;) 21:22 < Dan__> another question about the build process: There are the stages 3?-5 to build the system. the different higher stages are there to resolve dependencies. why there is then also a stage 9 where everything is finally rebuild?? 21:23 < daja77> afaik it is also for depency resolving, but I'm not a developer, sorry 21:25 < Dan__> but i think the "dependencies" are already in this different stage numbers. so i dont really understand stage 9. ok - maybe we'll reveal the secret one day :) 21:25 < Dan__> daja77: nevertheless: thanks for your help 21:25 < daja77> Dan__: no problem 21:26 < Dan__> by the way: sysconfig-ng has a new download-link. if someone needs a patch i created one. but it's not included at the snapshot until now. 21:27 < daja77> would you please be so kind to post the link here for me 21:27 < Dan__> daja77: in the desc file it has to be 21:28 < Dan__> daja77: [D] 0 syslog-ng-1.5.26.tar.gz https://www.balabit.hu/downloads/syslog-ng/1.5/src/ 21:28 < Dan__> daja77: tha /src/ was appended at the website 21:29 < daja77> Dan__: thx 21:29 < Dan__> daja77: with this setting i was able to download the package. dont forget to run ./scripts/Puzzle before download. 21:29 < daja77> ok, it has to wait anything, downloading other packages over ISDN wire, now 21:30 < daja77> s/anything/anyway 21:31 < daja77> gn8 you all 21:31 < Dan__> daja77: i hate waiting: my compile is now at "== 20:43:15 =[5]=> Building base/glibc23 [2.3.2 1.7-snapshot]." 21:31 < Dan__> daja77: gn8 too 21:31 < daja77> Dan__: what machine? 21:32 < Dan__> daja77: 1.2GHz Athlon - but slow harddisk because of software-raid 21:33 < daja77> glibc needed more than half an hour on my 1.8Ghz AthlonXP, so I think this is ok 21:34 < Dan__> bye - needs something to eat ;) 21:34 < daja77> Ok, then gn8 again ;) 21:34 -!- Dan__ [~chabrol@titan.chabrol.de] has quit ("hungry") 21:35 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-078-085.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 22:00 < netrunner_> how do I determin my actual stage? I see pink text and green arrows ... 22:09 < netrunner_> never mind, he started compiling ... something atleast :) 22:10 < netrunner_> I'll be back tomorrow evening with more questions ;) 22:23 -!- TheNight [~night@p5084EE8A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("gn8") 22:46 < ruddur> bye all 22:46 < ruddur> see tomorrow 22:46 -!- ruddur is now known as rudsleep 22:50 -!- reenoo [reno@ganten.psychologie.uni-bremen.de] has quit ("'night") --- Log closed Wed Mar 05 00:00:56 2003