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--- Log opened Mon Mar 10 00:00:02 2003 --- Day changed Mon Mar 10 2003 00:00 < daja77> can you post me your config and error logs plz 00:00 < kasc> dcc, query or email?` 00:01 < daja77> email would be fine 00:01 < esden> cu l8er 00:01 < daja77> <daniel@lospalmos.net> 00:01 < daja77> by esden 00:02 < kasc> mail sent 00:05 < daja77> was it a big mail? 00:06 < owl> gn8. 00:06 < daja77> gn8 owl 00:06 < kasc> n8 owl 00:07 < daja77> kasc: still haven't recvd anything 00:08 < daja77> let's try dcc, cos I want to go to bed soon 00:13 < daja77> have you selected the stack smashing protector option in scripts/Config ? 00:13 < kasc> yep 00:14 < kasc> was also my thought that this might break something here 00:14 < daja77> ok, so we know what the __guard thingies are ;) 00:14 < daja77> you mentioned that you had xdm running while playing with the config 00:15 -!- Freak [freak@p508B307D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client excited") 00:15 < kasc> after editing the config i killed the xdm and restarted it 00:16 < kasc> aaaaall byyyyy myyysehehelf *sing* 00:16 < daja77> is it so hard *g* 00:16 < kasc> it is! 00:17 < daja77> well, what about killing xdm and starting via startx 00:17 < kasc> well i cant add any further games using GLX to rock unless i can test them ;) 00:17 -!- A-Tui [~eof@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("GNU's not UniX") 00:17 < daja77> what gl games you wanted to add? 00:18 < kasc> foobilliard, flightgear (is already added but not tested) same with gltron 00:18 < kasc> i have about 10 gl games on my todo 00:19 < daja77> sounds cool, what about the startx try 00:20 < kasc> XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" 00:20 < kasc> after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. 00:20 < kasc> and some lines above that: 00:20 < kasc> Fatal server error: 00:20 < kasc> Caught signal 11. Server aborting 00:20 < daja77> is there still some X crap running in memory? 00:21 < daja77> kill -9 xdm 00:21 -!- rxr [~rxr@port-212-202-172-62.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:21 < rxr> hi 00:21 < daja77> hi rxr 00:21 < rxr> Mike1: are you online ? 00:21 < rxr> hi dej 00:21 < rxr> er daja77 00:21 < daja77> *g* 00:21 < kasc> nope, no X in background 00:22 < kasc> and with 24 bit color it works nicely 00:22 < kasc> hi rxr 00:22 < rxr> hi kasc 00:22 < daja77> it reads if it is trying to use some old sockets 00:23 < daja77> somehow X has "memories" of the 24bit settings in some old sockets or something like this 00:24 < rxr> does someone know if Mike1 was online today? 00:24 < kasc> daja77: i cant think how this could work 00:24 < daja77> try to delete some sockets in /tmp 00:25 < daja77> X is weird stuff, so don't worry 00:26 < kasc> still the same 00:26 < daja77> it still reads to me that is an X already running 00:27 < kasc> oh, and the link you gave me is far too old to be helpful 00:27 < kasc> there is no hint of X running in ps ax 00:28 < daja77> what X version do you have? 00:28 < kasc> 4.3.0 00:32 < daja77> haven't found something useful on www.xfree86.org, maybe you want to dig there again, I'll have to quit now, sorry 00:33 < kasc> thx anyways :( 00:33 < daja77> maybe I can help later 00:33 < kasc> later? 00:34 < daja77> later this day 00:35 < kasc> what TZ do you live in? 00:35 < daja77> Europe/Berlin 00:36 < kasc> ic 00:37 < daja77> well, then it is ok for now 00:38 < daja77> gn8 you all 00:39 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-078-210.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 01:07 < esden> re hi all 01:07 < esden> kasc: you maintain games ? 01:08 < rxr> hi esden 01:10 < esden> hi rxr 01:17 < rxr> re esden ;-) 01:19 < esden> ok copying rock-src-1.7 on v100 01:22 < esden> rxr: how good are scsi scanners supported ? 01:23 < rxr> hm? 01:23 < rxr> ah 01:23 < rxr> erhr on SPARC or in general? 01:23 < esden> on intel ... 01:24 < esden> linux 01:24 -!- dreamind [dreamind@skeeter.dreamind.de] has joined #rocklinux 01:24 < rxr> most work very well. 01:24 < esden> I have a "mustek 800 IISP" 01:24 < rxr> https://panda.mostang.com/sane/sane-mfgs.html 01:25 < esden> ok stable 01:26 < esden> now I need a correct connector 01:27 < rxr> Did you read on the list that I managed to get an additional SCSI disk into my U5 as well as an Adapted controller ;-) ? 01:28 < esden> I think I oversaw that 01:28 < esden> but ... congrats 01:28 < rxr> normally it is shipped with crippled IDE fluff ... 01:29 < esden> we really need a minimal/server target ... 01:29 < esden> that would help creating test builds ... with only the most importaint packets 01:29 < rxr> ACK 01:29 < rxr> this is on my todo - as well as automated regression tests ... 01:30 < rxr> but should I really raise the desktop and server target on me? 01:30 < esden> no you should not ... if you ask me you have enough work already ... 01:31 < rxr> maybe you start the server target ? 01:31 < esden> I am thinking about it 01:32 < esden> but first I have to get some routine in my time schedule that is pretty corrupted since I moved from home 01:33 < rxr> do you have holidays, too ? 01:34 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:35 < esden> yes I have ... but I have to learn for an exam in three weeks ... and gather some "scheine" so that I have more spare time in the semester 01:36 < dreamind> Hi :) 01:36 < dreamind> hi esden 01:37 < esden> hi dreamind 01:37 < esden> hmm ... and dietlibc target is broken too ... 01:37 < esden> *sigh* 01:52 < esden> sparc build started 01:53 < dreamind> night ;) 01:53 -!- dreamind [dreamind@skeeter.dreamind.de] has quit ("Client exiting") 01:57 < rxr> ;-) 02:00 < esden> I am really excited how well it will work 02:01 < esden> you are building the desktop target on sparc ? 02:01 < rxr> how many bits, which optimization and do you use a 64bit kernel in the config? 02:02 < rxr> and which gcc ;-)? 02:03 < esden> gcc3 "build 64 bit user-space SPARC (v9 - Ultra SPARC)" " No special optimisation" 02:03 < esden> other things are default 02:03 < esden> and the system I am building on is debiat 02:03 < esden> debian even 02:05 < rxr> 64bit userspace does not work yet 02:06 < rxr> use 32bit userspace a 64 bit kernel (which is not cased in the config yet) and optimize for Ultra SPARC ... 02:06 < rxr> or you debug seg-faults in the libc and so if you use 64bit user-space ... :-( 02:07 < esden> *sigh* ... ok I restart the build 02:08 < rxr> I guess I need to write a help-file for SPARC ? ;-) 02:11 < rxr> your SPARC is bleeding fast, istn't it ? 02:12 < esden> hmm ... in the moment I said that I stop the build it was building glibc23 ... but I think that it is not very slow ... it has 1G ram ... 02:12 < rxr> and how many Hz ? 02:12 < esden> cpu : TI UltraSparc IIe 02:13 < esden> fpu : UltraSparc IIe integrated FPU 02:13 < esden> Cpu0Bogo : 999.42 02:13 < rxr> so 500 Mhz ? 02:13 < esden> yes 02:13 < rxr> hm 02:13 < esden> something abouth this 02:14 < rxr> Could you organize another one? My U5 @270Mhz and 128MB RAM sleeps during compiling ... 02:14 < esden> no ... the one I have is only borrowed 02:15 < esden> and I will have to give it back in 1 or two weeks 02:15 < esden> but I will see what I can do 02:15 < rxr> oh :-( On teh CCC I tought they likely do not need it back ... 02:17 < esden> the machine belongs to the guy that sat in the middle between me and fake ... the one who owned the second one 02:17 < esden> he needs it for a project 02:18 < esden> I hope that when I give it to him and he finishes his project for which the machines are I get it back 02:18 < esden> that would be very very good 02:18 < rxr> yes 02:19 < rxr> I'll not invest in SPARC ... If s.o. comes with a good price I might get another one - but otherwise my next box is a dual Athlon-64 ... ;-) 02:20 < esden> yes that is a very good choice 02:20 < esden> we need the machines so we can push the Hammer port 02:20 < rxr> or maybe a iBook if my laptop breaks 02:20 < esden> that is also a thing I thought about 02:21 < esden> but I think that before I buy me a new laptop I need a faster intel machine 02:21 < rxr> The iBook is so great - if it would have an PCMCIA slot and a better keyboard it would ROCK 02:21 < esden> get a powerbook ;-) 02:21 < rxr> They look ugly and they are too expensive ... 02:22 < esden> yes that is right 02:22 < esden> hmm ... hannes is sleeping >_< 02:22 < rxr> hm? 02:22 < esden> hannes is the v100 guy 02:23 < esden> ohh ... I really have to go to bed 02:23 < esden> >_< 02:23 < rxr> ok cu 02:23 < esden> tomorrow I have to hold a lecture >_< 02:24 < esden> ok ... good night 02:24 < rxr> viel erfolg ! 02:24 < esden> thanks 02:36 * rxr 140kB/s GNOME-22 source downloading 03:02 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@IP-213157009164.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has joined #rocklinux 03:04 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@IP-213157009164.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has quit (Client Quit) 03:57 -!- tibit_ [~tibit@p508AAAFA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:06 -!- netrunner_ [~netrunner@p50802343.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04:08 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Der Sinn des Lebens ist die Suche nach eben jenem.") 04:14 < rxr> /qui 04:14 -!- rxr [~rxr@port-212-202-172-62.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("leaving") 04:14 -!- tibit [~tibit@p508AA84F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:14 -!- netrunner_ [~netrunner@p50802816.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:21 < blindcoder> moin 08:47 < kasc> moin 08:59 < blindcoder> hi kasc 09:01 * blindcoder updated to icewm 1.2.7 with Xinerama-suppert *WEEE* 09:12 < owl> morning 09:12 < blindcoder> moin owl 09:31 * kasc hates xfree86 09:31 < kasc> moin owl 09:32 < owl> hi kasc 09:32 * owl hates visual studio.NET && c# *breaking into tears* 09:33 < owl> so, don't complain, kasc 09:33 < blindcoder> kasc: why? doesn't it compile? 09:34 < kasc> blindcoder: partially this and i cant get the GL extensions to work 09:35 < blindcoder> which card? 09:36 < kasc> Voodoo 3500 TV 09:36 < fronti> kasc: mine -r nvidia 09:36 < kasc> nvidia? 09:36 < blindcoder> hmm... modprobe tdfx and 'Load "dri"' in /etc/X11/XF86Config ? 09:37 < kasc> tdfx is compiled into kernel both for fb and for dri here 09:37 < blindcoder> kasc: yees, mine -r -v -R / nvidia to remove the nvidia package and their opengl things 09:38 < blindcoder> then install mesa 09:38 < kasc> and dri should be loaded from XF86Config 09:38 < kasc> never installed any nvidia drivers 09:38 < kasc> and i tried mesa, too 09:39 < blindcoder> hmmm.... loading dri and haveing tdfx should be enough IIRC 09:40 < kasc> i read somewhere something about that chip supporting acceleration only for 16 bit colors, but with 16bit my x doesnt even start up 09:40 < blindcoder> did you install the extra dri-package? 09:41 < kasc> what extra dri package? 09:42 < blindcoder> https://dri.sourceforge.net/downloads.phtml 09:42 < kasc> i did install xfree86 as is comes with rene's package... 09:42 < blindcoder> search for 3dfx and voodoo3 in that page 09:43 < fronti> dri works here with renes package, after i remove the nvidia package.. i'm using a matrox card 09:46 < kasc> i'll try that as soon as i got my xfree86 running again at all ;) 10:25 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p50816EA5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:56 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p50816EA5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 11:31 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-077-021.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:31 < daja77> moin 11:34 < blindcoder> hi 11:34 < daja77> hi blindcoder 11:34 < owl> hi daja77 11:34 < daja77> wb owl 11:35 < owl> god! it's such a crap!!! 11:36 < daja77> huh? 11:36 < owl> someone has experience with this stupid .NET stuff? - and knows how to define 'references' (to another project/workspace/class) into c#?? 11:37 * blindcoder fading into the shadows 11:37 < owl> blindcoder: *g* 11:37 < owl> mv /dev/world/bullet /dev/owl/head 11:38 < daja77> the mv will be too slow 11:38 < blindcoder> so she'll only get a major headache :) 11:38 < owl> damn it... 11:38 < daja77> /dev/world/bullet is the wrong device anyway 11:39 < owl> uh... bad luck 11:39 < daja77> try /dev/gun/bullet 11:39 < owl> oh... maybe this... 11:40 < owl> thx 11:43 < daja77> I explained your query to the great google and he answered me this 11:43 < daja77> https://www.mastercsharp.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=18&&TopicID=4 11:43 < daja77> hth 11:44 < huebi> Moin 11:44 < owl> hi huebi 11:44 < huebi> hi owl 11:44 < owl> thx daja77 11:44 < daja77> hi huebi 11:45 < daja77> owl: no problem 11:45 < blindcoder> moin huebi 11:45 < owl> daja77: but anyways - doesn't help... 11:45 < daja77> owl: this might happen if you leave all the interesting details 11:46 < owl> daja77: nope... 11:46 < owl> The type or namespace name 'Converter' could not be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?) 11:46 < owl> my error... 11:46 < blindcoder> *LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL* 11:46 < blindcoder> https://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4622 11:48 < daja77> hehe 11:49 < daja77> owl: I do not fiddling with .ARG but in most cases the compiler is right 11:49 < owl> hmm.... 11:50 < daja77> owl: make a break, reread your code, and your mistake will show up (at least I hope so) 11:51 < daja77> rot13 .ARG and you'll see ;) 11:51 < owl> my mistake - nobody at this company ever used this fscking .net-crap, and i'm the only one who is forced to code in c# and we have no books or so. 11:52 < daja77> then tell them to buy some, you can't get even support on the net for this crap without being registered 11:53 < owl> hmm... i told them about 10 times, that i need a fsckin book... but always the same "use google." 11:56 < daja77> muhaha, google only works on free software 11:56 < daja77> maybe you can ask the mono guys 11:57 * blindcoder now asking his nethack :) 11:58 < owl> daja77: tell my boss this fact... and tell him, that i need more money ... :P 11:58 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p50816EA5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:58 < daja77> owl: what about getting a better job? 12:00 < owl> daja77: i'm in "ausbildung"... 12:03 < daja77> daja77: why do we have this thing in this fscking country that people who are in company to learn have to do all the crap the regulars (with the big salary) are too stupid for 12:04 < daja77> *lol* too stupid for me *gnaaarf* 12:05 < owl> cuz we are in a wonderful country... and: don't forget - where the people who should (theoretically) get the stuff teached by someone, have to learn the stuff by themselves... 12:06 < blindcoder> daja77: simple: because the people "in charge" never learned the stuff the apprentice must know after 3 years 12:08 < daja77> well, here at my $orkplace I'm the only one who is able to run the linux box which serves the NT Clients, if I'm leaving the'll have trouble 12:08 < kasc> WOOOHOOOO!!!! Finally i got that bitch running! :) 12:08 < daja77> kasc: what was it 12:08 < blindcoder> daja77: dare to ask me about my job? 12:09 < blindcoder> kasc: nice :) 12:09 < kasc> dunno, i'll try to find that out now ;) 12:09 < daja77> blindcoder: I'm fearless ;) 12:10 < blindcoder> daja77: hehe. I'm currently administrating the wholo Siemens ICN IntranetWebservers in Germany, scripting together a bunch of scripts to automate creation/deletion of db4web, tomcat, apache, php et al and probably won't be here anymor in october 12:11 < daja77> blindcoder: Congrats, for your leaving, I do not feel sorry for them 12:11 < blindcoder> and no, there's no one here who understands 'var=${foo%$bar}' 12:11 < daja77> of course not 12:12 < blindcoder> try searching a man-page or google for what that line does :) 12:12 < daja77> sorry, I that was not the point I wanted to make 12:13 < blindcoder> sure :) 12:14 < daja77> the guy who wants to sell equipment to my father's school told me, that the schools cannot give up windows totally, coz the poor suckers in the industry still need it 12:15 < blindcoder> yes they do, because they want to. 12:15 < daja77> he was quite unsure when stated that I don't care 12:15 < blindcoder> *lol* 12:16 < daja77> at least he admitted that his company is unable to run the school's computers at the costs that I'm doin 12:17 < blindcoder> hmhm 12:18 < daja77> zero, can easily converted to every currency 12:18 < blindcoder> ne calculator required :) 12:19 < daja77> rechecking math knowledge of graduates this time, calculator with algebra system is *required* 12:22 < kasc> daja77: there is absolutely nothing different 12:22 < kasc> it just chose to work 12:23 < daja77> huh? 12:24 < kasc> the XF86Config doesnt contain anything it didnt already contain when it didnt work 12:24 < daja77> so you have rebooted the machine? 12:24 < kasc> nope, not even that 12:25 < daja77> so you did nothing, and now it works the way it should be 12:25 < kasc> i started to build xfree86 by hand, but neither was the build through nor did i install anything from that tree 12:26 < daja77> there must be a reason why it is called X *Windows* 12:27 < kasc> daja77: nope, must me something else... it didnt need a reboot so it cant be windows ;) 12:27 < daja77> windows moves on, hehe 12:33 < tibit_> daja77: Its called "X Window System" not "X Windows" :) 12:34 < daja77> I see, that there is still hope, *sigh* 12:58 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:28 < kasc> re 13:29 < kasc> well in fact there are indeed differences to my x now... 13:29 < owl> re kasc 13:29 < daja77> wb kasc, what is it? 13:30 < kasc> daja77: i compiled without -fstack-protector and i installed the binary-only (ugh) glide libs from dri.sourceforge.net 13:33 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@IP-213157009164.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:34 < daja77> so I was not completely wrong last night 13:37 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p50816EA5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 13:37 < kasc> the problem with voodoo3 is that most urls are terribly outdated 13:37 < daja77> just like the hardware *g* 13:38 < dreamind> hi 13:38 < daja77> hi dreamind 13:38 < kasc> unfortunately, yes 13:40 < owl> hi dreamind 13:40 < kasc> hi dreamind 14:08 < esden> hi all 14:09 < daja77> hi esden 14:11 < blindcoder> hi esden 14:14 < owl> hi esden 14:23 < kasc> hi esden 14:23 < daja77> kasc: can you run the desired games now? 14:24 -!- maisenhe [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:24 -!- maisenhe is now known as rolla 14:28 < kasc> FlightGear doesnt work, but i currently cant rebuild anything coz i'm currently building for another box 14:29 < daja77> have you put the data files at the right place? 14:29 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@IP-213157009164.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has quit (":x") 14:29 < kasc> foobillard works and looks great... i just cant play billard ;) 14:30 < blindcoder> kasc: who cares? cgoban and gnugo work like a charm here... but I just suck at Go m:) 14:30 < kasc> dont think so, but i want to do a rebuild before messing the package over 14:31 < kasc> i'm currently building asc by hand 14:31 < daja77> ? 14:31 < kasc> advanced strategic command. a battle isle clone 14:32 < kasc> if it works i'll probably be off some days to weeks testing that one ;) 14:32 < daja77> hehe 14:32 < kasc> especially as it can import battle isle II mission files and my box is way too fast to play that directly ;) 14:33 < daja77> if you haven't enough already you might want to have a look at https://ltag.blaxxtarz.de/index.php?n=mat 14:33 < kasc> what is it about? 14:34 < daja77> a list of linux games and other ressources 14:34 < kasc> kewl, thx 14:40 < kasc> wonder how long it takes till rock 2.0 is released... 14:40 < daja77> it is no wonder, so broken as it is, you can't release 14:41 < kasc> if it takes too long, there might be more games than packages in base *fg* 14:41 < daja77> that wouldn't be a problem 14:42 < daja77> as long as games are not installed per default 14:44 < kasc> we would have to rename the subtitle of rock linux from 'the admin friendly distribution' to 'the g4m3rZ fr|3ndly |)i57r|bu7|0n' ;) 14:44 < daja77> In that case I must leave rock :( 14:45 < kasc> why that? 14:45 < kasc> dont you like games? 14:46 < daja77> I like them, if Ik have to run a games booth, I don't need them at work 14:46 < blindcoder> daja77: theres that neato category called 'application/game'. Don't install it if you don't want it 14:46 * blindcoder going home. byebye 14:47 < daja77> bye blincoder 14:47 < kasc> bye blindcoder 14:49 < owl> bye blindy 15:18 < esden> puhh 15:18 < esden> ok ... some keys signed ... 15:19 * -> esden pleeds for a key signing party on the next rocklinux developer meeting 15:20 < esden> kasc: are you here ? 15:20 * -> esden thinks that kasc ignores esden's existence 15:45 < kasc> i'm here 15:47 < kasc> esden? 16:04 < esden> ahh ... 16:04 < esden> kasc: you maintain games ? 16:04 < esden> if yes add koules ;-) 16:04 < kasc> yep 16:05 < kasc> hehe 16:05 < esden> https://www.ucw.cz/~hubicka/koules/English/koules.html <-- there it is ;-) 16:06 < esden> will you do it for me ? 16:08 < kasc> lemme have a look at it first ;) 16:10 < esden> it is good ... !!! it is one of the best games I know !! 16:10 < kasc> and it doesnt build out of the box :/ 16:10 < blindcoder> koules _should_ build ootb 16:11 < esden> hi ho blindcoder !!! *hug* 16:11 < blindcoder> rehi esden 16:11 < blindcoder> *rehug* 16:11 < esden> blindcoder: you could also insert the packet ;-) 16:11 < blindcoder> nah, I think I'll leave the games things to kasc 16:12 < kasc> hehe 16:13 < kasc> something with shm seems to be broken 16:13 < blindcoder> esden: btw: icewm 1.2.7 has Xinerama support!!!! 16:14 < esden> cool ... finally 16:14 < blindcoder> it has it since 1.2.4 but the ROCK package didn't get updtaed since 1.2.2 >_< 16:14 < esden> hmm ... not good ... it was building out of the box the last time I tried it 16:14 < esden> urgh ... blindcoder send update ;-) 16:15 < blindcoder> esden: already sent it to rxr since it' his package 16:15 < blindcoder> oh, and I played a little withe icewm's programs file 16:15 < blindcoder> kinde sweet :) 16:16 < blindcoder> let's you say that licq is automatically on all desktops and may not be cowvered when you maximize a window :) 16:17 < blindcoder> with XFree86 4.2.0 I also managed to get OpenGL on my nvidia card and running the 3dfx card without acceleration at the same time, too :) 16:17 < blindcoder> so now I have the ultimate desktop at home :D 16:18 < daja77> hehe, try to explain the *ultimate* part to windows luser 16:18 * owl kicks daja77 to /dev/hell 16:18 * Mike1 bites owl 16:18 < owl> hi Mike1 16:19 < Mike1> moin all 16:19 < esden> hi Mike1 *hug* 16:19 < blindcoder> daja77: dual haed 1280x1024x16 on two screens, hardware acceleration, 32bpp, 100+ fps in jedi knight 2 16:19 < daja77> hi Mike1 16:19 < blindcoder> hi Mike1 16:19 < owl> daja77: maybe you have heard of people who are forced to use it!?! *grrrrrr* 16:19 < Mike1> Gott segne dich esdy 16:19 < blindcoder> daja77: ultimate enough? 16:19 < esden> *GG* 16:19 < daja77> blindcoder: indeed, but $blah doesn't run on it 16:20 < esden> blindcoder: get another two cards ... then you have an ultimate quadhead desktop system ;-) 16:20 < blindcoder> esden: if you gimme your two HP Monitors then I'l get myself a Parhelia :D 16:20 < daja77> owl: I did not speak to you this moment, we talked about kewl windows xp gamers 16:21 < blindcoder> daja77: right, because Winblows is too stupid to use these monitors 16:21 < owl> daja77: k. 16:22 < daja77> blindcoder: some people just need a fast pc to see a xp windows moving while dragging 16:23 < daja77> blindcoder: so what do you expect from them 16:23 < blindcoder> daja77: that they jump out of a 10th floor window 16:24 < daja77> blindcoder: hehehe, it would create new jobs in the funeral business, yeah 16:25 < owl> oh hopefully they will really do... but... who should write business letters if "sekretaerinnen" are jumping out of the window? 16:25 < blindcoder> owl: if the team assistants are al out, then you will have to type my letters :D 16:25 < blindcoder> *runninng away* 16:25 < daja77> well, the secretaries I know are too stupid to write an email, I'll not miss them 16:26 < owl> blindcoder: i guess you want to be shot, don't you? - but - i'm glad... i'm not in your team 16:26 < owl> daja77: *g* 16:27 < daja77> one of them specialized in writing mail with the whole content quoted 16:27 < esden> blindcoder: grrr 16:27 < owl> she's blonde, isn't she? 16:28 < daja77> dunno, don't care 16:30 < daja77> btw, there were rumours that some offices didn't answer mails, cos they couldn't put a stamp on it 16:30 < owl> fsck... someone is willed to shot me, please? and please _now_ 16:30 < daja77> no, it is forbidden, even if I wanted to eat you 16:31 < owl> daja77: don't care. i will write a letter (cuz i can it, i'm not a blonde secretary) - that it was my will *hrhr* 16:31 < esden> ohoh ... DHR is coming ... hide everyone ;-) 16:31 < owl> DHR? 16:31 < esden> you will see owl ;-) 16:31 -!- reutter [~daniel@ppp-62-245-162-70.mnet-online.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:31 < owl> *g* k. 16:32 < esden> yes DHR = reutter 16:32 < reutter> Hi all. 16:32 < owl> hi reutter 16:32 < reutter> What? 16:32 < daja77> hi reutter 16:32 < esden> hi reutter ;-) nice to meet you ;-) 16:32 < reutter> Hi Owl 16:32 < reutter> Yeah, whatever... 16:32 < esden> :P ... I like you too ... 16:32 < daja77> owl: writing letters doesn't help 16:32 < esden> as food or so ;-) 16:32 < reutter> Hm... 16:33 < owl> daja77: whatever. simple: shot me! 16:33 < reutter> Who wants to be shot? 16:33 < esden> owl is willing to die ... *sigh* 16:33 < blindcoder> hi reutter 16:33 < esden> that gets boring 16:33 < blindcoder> esden: why *grrr* L 16:33 < reutter> Hi benji 16:33 < daja77> owl: don't have any missiles and no time to drive down to Munich 16:33 < esden> because I will not give my HP monitors away ... 16:33 * -> esden hugs his monitors 16:34 < blindcoder> reutter: I hope you're torturing esden enough while I can't do so? 16:34 < reutter> He is screaming in agony right now... 16:34 < reutter> I replaced him by a simple script, so no one will realize ;) 16:34 < blindcoder> good 16:34 < esden> blindcoder: you should be here ... it is less painfull having you around than reutter 16:35 < reutter> I take that for a compliment. 16:35 < blindcoder> esden: hm.... that needs to be changed. Remind me of it when I'm next at your home :) 16:35 * -> esden running amok on the harddisk 16:35 < esden> ohoh ... that sounds promising blindcoder 16:35 < esden> ruarrrr ;-) 16:36 < reutter> OK we should all stop calling those "Ruf-Mich-An"-phone numbers.... 16:36 < esden> ehhmm ... hrm ... 16:36 < esden> well ... what were we talking about? 16:36 < Mike1> "that" 16:37 < reutter> Dunno... All people that are into masochism should raise their hand (or their chains, whatever) 16:37 * -> esden rises his hand inclusive a "streckbank" 16:37 * blindcoder raising a chainsaw, does that count? 16:37 < reutter> I admit, I actually *am* into masochism, too. I'm using X11 quite regularly. 16:38 < daja77> doesn't count 16:38 < esden> hmm ... so I should start using emacs ... should I ? 16:38 < daja77> no 16:38 < blindcoder> Than that would include every user of GNU software 16:39 < reutter> Sorry, but unattended raising of chainsaws isn't accepted as a counting vote. Ask the Supreme Court. *They* know how to vote, esp. in Florida 16:39 < esden> freedom for the arms !!! 16:40 < reutter> Well... yeah, kind of. 16:40 < daja77> esden: you don't want to have our idiots walking around with guns, will you? 16:40 < reutter> esden: But when the you bear arms in your arms, you would have a doubled vote, and therefore a not counting one. 16:41 < esden> sigh ... that is sad ... 16:41 * -> esden aims his gun on reutter ... is it a counting one now ? 16:41 < reutter> daja77: You are right. American idiots walking around with guns are enough. 16:41 < daja77> reutter: you're mutating into a sadist by talking like that 16:41 < daja77> reutter: indeed 16:42 < reutter> I am sadistic. No matter what. But I like to suffer a little bit too. Esp. when it's so colorful like X. 16:42 < esden> reutter: or quake III 16:42 < Mike1> reutter: get a monocrom monitor and colors will go away ... 16:42 < reutter> Well... getting fragged sux. No matter how good it looks. 16:43 < daja77> reutter: if you are unable to configure it properly, it is your problem 16:43 < reutter> Oh no, it's running quite well. As good as any X. I just don't like the idea behind all of it... 16:44 < daja77> X is a nice terminal multiplexer 16:44 < reutter> Yeah, but this is also true for VTs. 16:45 < reutter> Gimme a browser with framebuffer support and I would never startx again, except for the colours and the look of it! 16:46 < reutter> Enlightenment really gets heavy on your resources, but having a real Enterprise-Console on your screen is worth every MB of RAM used up. 16:47 < esden> reutter: use directfb ? 16:47 < reutter> esden: Nope. I *am* a masochist in that way. 16:48 < esden> directfb does have real alpha channel ... that is hurning pretty well ;-) 16:48 < esden> hurting even 16:49 < esden> hmm ... it seems that people start to die during this conversation ... :-/ 16:49 < reutter> Better than shooting... 16:49 < daja77> not dying, working, much the same 16:49 < esden> words are better arms than everything I know till now 16:50 < reutter> Yeah, but without work one could never afford those nifty gadgets standing around in our rooms... isn't it so? 16:50 < esden> reutter: you may be right 16:50 < reutter> esden: You never got familiar with a tactical nuclear weapon, right? 16:51 < esden> they are too ultimate ... and working too fast ... 16:51 < esden> when you die you are freed 16:51 < esden> that is not hard enough 16:52 < reutter> esden: Depends on how you use it... A 50 Megaton bomb up your ass can be a really slow pain... 16:52 < esden> I can also use a cola bottle ... and put it up your ass ... that is much cheeper 16:52 < reutter> Nah. Too easy. 16:53 < esden> yes typical of you ... why do it the easy way when you can do it the hard way ? 16:54 < reutter> Hard in every meaning of the word... 16:54 < esden> I do not want to know or hear what you mean with it ... *hides* 16:54 < owl> cu later.... 16:54 < esden> cu owl 16:54 * reutter is thinking we should change to #sex-with-arms to continue our conversation 16:55 < reutter> cu owl 16:55 < esden> errm ... yes ... it is probably a good thing 16:55 < reutter> brb 17:07 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-158-055.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:08 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F29B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: blindcod1r!blindcoder@pD958F06A.dip.t-dialin.net))) 17:08 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F06A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:11 < Mike1> capy!! 17:13 < capchaos> mikey! 17:13 < capchaos> :)* 17:13 < capchaos> How's it going? 17:14 < Mike1> capy not bad, and you ? 17:14 < capchaos> Not bad either 17:15 * capchaos just too fscking tired 17:15 < capchaos> cu! 17:15 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-158-055.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Wer zu viel Macht hat macht zu viel...") 17:16 < daja77> Mike1: preparing my sister's laptop for continuing my build 17:16 < Mike1> daja77: so i guess its good to have sisters with laptops :)) 17:17 < daja77> yeah, in that case it is a mobile athlon 1600XP+ better than my other boxes 17:18 < Mike1> *g 17:20 < daja77> to say that clear I'm not against testing my machine with reiserfs, but I thought trying on another machine could be better 17:20 < daja77> at least I can tell her if her machine is working fine ;) 17:32 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E4965B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:32 < tcr> moin all 17:32 < daja77> hi tcr 17:33 -!- reutter [~daniel@ppp-62-245-162-70.mnet-online.de] has quit () 18:03 < esden> cu l8er 18:04 < tcr> hi daja77 ;)... cu esden 18:04 < daja77> cu esden 18:07 < kasc> wonder if that scummvm works... 18:08 < daja77> I know people who claimed it working, havn't tested it 18:09 < kasc> i'll know soon if my DOTT disks arent too old... 18:09 < daja77> lemme know 18:12 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p50816EA5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:20 * daja77 is away: shopping 18:21 < tcr> in chemnitz? das ist möglich? ;) 18:24 < kasc> it works... it works!! DIE WELT EROBERN!!! *MUAHAHAHAHA* 18:26 < tcr> well the english version of DotT is imho much better ;) 18:26 < tcr> kasc: do you know if there also some emulator for Simon the Sorcerer 1 & 2? I adored, nearly worshipped them 18:27 < tcr> still wearing a fan t-shirt of it sometimes ;) 18:27 < kasc> tcr: the scummvm even works with simon the sorcerer 18:27 < tcr> what's that after all? 18:29 < kasc> ScummVM is an implementation of the SCUMM (Script Creation Utility for 18:29 < kasc> Maniac Mansion) engine used in various Lucas Arts games such as Monkey 18:29 < kasc> Island and Day of the Tentacle. 18:29 < kasc> (from the README) 18:37 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("bbl") 18:44 -!- javito [~javito@ip33-167.furb.br] has joined #rocklinux 18:46 < tcr> moin javito 18:50 < javito> hi tcr 19:02 -!- rudaway is now known as ruddur 19:06 < esden> re hi all 19:07 < daja77> hi ruddur, javito 19:07 < javito> sers 19:08 < ruddur> hi daja77, esden, javito 19:09 < Mike1> ruddur. 19:09 < ruddur> oh sorry 19:10 < ruddur> hi Mike1 19:13 < javito> wasupo Mike1 19:16 < esden> v100 is terribly loud ... *sigh* 19:16 < esden> I love the silence of my intel box ... *irony* 19:17 < esden> but it is way less then the v100 19:20 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@pD9522210.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:21 < Mike1> oi javito :) 19:21 * Mike1 away eating 19:22 < tcr> hi dreamind 19:22 < tcr> 'n guten @ Mike1 19:23 < dreamind> Hi tcr 19:38 < tcr> (o_ 19:38 < tcr> U_/_ 19:38 < tcr> hm 19:38 < tcr> should actually represent a pinguin ;) 19:39 < daja77> folded? 19:43 < tcr> no idea ;) 19:48 < Mike1> Gott segne dich tcr :) 19:49 < daja77> Mike1: are you a priest? ;) 19:49 < esden> a folded pengidn 19:49 < esden> *in 19:50 < esden> urgh ... that is not coffe ... that is water .. >_< 19:51 < tcr> esden: was that coff made by owl? 19:52 < esden> no .. by me ... but I had no more coffee pouder ... 19:52 < tcr> no wonder then, twerp! ;) 19:55 < Mike1> daja77: nah :) 19:55 < daja77> Mike1: good to know ;) 19:56 < esden> ok ... i go now swimming 19:56 < esden> cu l8er 19:56 < daja77> have fun 19:57 < esden> thanks will have ;-) 19:57 < Mike1> esden: cu :) 19:57 < Mike1> daja77: i just have a strong relationship with God :) 19:58 < Mike1> daja77: esden shares the feeling . 19:59 < tcr> esden: huh?! where 19:59 < owl> re 19:59 < daja77> wb owl 19:59 < daja77> esden went swimming 20:00 < tcr> yeah, but where? and at the current point of time.. 20:00 < tcr> but that reminds me.. i actually wanted to shower.. 20:00 < daja77> dunno, ask him later 20:01 < tcr> just finished the "Tips and Pitfalls" part of my user documentation... 240lines 20:02 < daja77> cool, brb 20:02 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-ls-13-1-dialup-13.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 20:03 < zer0_o> hi all 20:03 < tcr> moin 20:03 < owl> hi zer0_o 20:03 < zer0_o> was a loong time ... 20:16 * tcr taking a shower 20:17 < zer0_o> hf tcr 20:17 < javito> tcr is taking a shower!!! 20:18 < zer0_o> javito: lets bang him ,) looool 20:18 < javito> and i thought bush oil war was gonna destroy the world! 20:18 < javito> *bg* 20:18 < javito> dont do it tcr!!!!!!!! 20:19 < javito> please dont! 20:19 < javito> =) 20:20 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:21 < zer0_o> *tcrbang* 20:23 < Mike1> tcr: water is forbiden for hackers.. 20:23 < Mike1> tcr: ask Alan Cox!! 20:26 < tcr> why 20:26 < tcr> cant remember to a quote in which he should have claimed that 20:27 < owl> WEEEE!!! router up and running! 20:27 < tcr> though if you look at him, you might get the impression of that ;) 20:27 < daja77> congrats 20:27 < owl> thx 20:28 < Mike1> thats waht i had in mind :) 20:28 < Mike1> owl: OpenBSD router? 20:28 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p50816EA5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 20:29 < owl> Mike1: *lol* no isdn-support there... 20:29 < owl> but... fli4l *(y(eah, yeah. shame on me... ) - but better than tnoghtin... 20:29 < owl> but... damn... my connection is too slow, anyways 20:30 < tcr> wee, i'm still using my flipping winrouter 20:35 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has quit ("Lost terminal") 20:35 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090A565.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:36 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:36 < owl> re 20:41 -!- kasc [~kasc@p50909A0A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:46 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-077-021.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:48 < kasc> re 20:49 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 20:54 < demian> hi 20:54 < owl> hi demian, re kasc 20:56 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-ls-13-1-dialup-13.freesurf.ch] has quit ("Client Exiting") 20:57 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has quit ("leaving") 20:58 -!- loideal [~monitoreo@mail.loideal.com] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:58 -!- reckcah [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 20:59 < reckcah> nick demian 20:59 -!- reckcah is now known as demian 21:10 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Der Sinn des Lebens ist die Suche nach eben jenem.") 21:12 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E4965B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:13 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@pD9522210.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (":x") 21:31 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958DAA3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:34 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-073-199.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:34 < daja77> re hi 21:36 < owl> re daja77 21:36 < demian> hi owl 21:36 < daja77> owl: aargh lost connection again 21:36 < daja77> hi demian 21:37 < demian> hi demian 21:37 < demian> :p hi daja77 21:37 < kasc> daja77: dott worked fine! 21:37 < kasc> even the music is great ;) 21:38 < daja77> kasc: fine, yes the music was cool 21:38 * kasc still has that white-red-blue tentacle flag waving in background ;) 21:43 -!- rxr [~rxr@port-212-202-173-211.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:43 < rxr> re 21:43 < daja77> hi rxr 21:44 < owl> hi rxr 21:52 < rxr> hi all 21:54 * daja77 is back (gone 00:19:55) 22:24 < demian> hallo rxr 22:30 < demian> cya 22:30 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has left #rocklinux () 22:30 < javito> gn8 22:31 -!- javito [~javito@ip33-167.furb.br] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 22:31 < daja77> gn8 javito 22:44 -!- dreamind [dreamind@skeeter.dreamind.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:52 < owl> re 23:03 -!- ruddur is now known as rudaway 23:03 < rudaway> bye all 23:04 < rudaway> good night 23:04 < daja77> bye ruddur 23:05 < owl> gn8 rudaway 23:05 < rudaway> ciao 23:09 < tcr> gn8 all 23:09 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958DAA3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 23:16 < huebi> re 23:16 < daja77> re hi huebi 23:17 < owl> re huebi 23:17 < huebi> re zusammen. 23:17 < huebi> morgen gibt's wohl wieder internet 23:17 < owl> morgen erst? 23:18 < owl> ah so... heuter ist ja montag... 23:18 < huebi> jo, genau 23:18 < owl> sorry. bin verpeilt... 23:31 < fake> hi huebi ! 23:32 < fake> ho owl 23:32 < daja77> hi fake 23:32 < fake> hi daja77 23:32 < owl> hi fake 23:34 < huebi> moin fake 23:39 < huebi> good night. 23:39 < huebi> cu tomorrow 23:39 < daja77> gn8 huebi 23:40 < fake> n8 23:40 < owl> gn8 huebi 23:46 < rxr> cu huebi --- Log closed Tue Mar 11 00:00:44 2003