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--- Log opened Fri Mar 21 00:00:43 2003 --- Day changed Fri Mar 21 2003 00:01 -!- rxr_ [~rxr@port-212-202-173-211.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:01 < rxr_> hi all 00:03 < Mike1> hi rxr_ :) 00:56 -!- A-Tui [~eof@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 00:56 < A-Tui> hola 00:57 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 01:05 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has joined #rocklinux 01:05 < Mike1> hola A-Tui 01:06 < Mike1> A-Tui: got my mail? 01:06 < A-Tui> no, i dont fetch my mail yet 01:07 < Mike1> do so :) 01:07 < A-Tui> ok, im going to the other machine to fecth it 01:07 < Mike1> good :) 01:07 < A-Tui> and after i have one question about install new packages 01:07 < A-Tui> see you later, in 5 minutes 01:08 < Mike1> oks 01:10 < A-Tui> re 01:11 < A-Tui> i read it 01:11 < Mike1> good 01:11 < A-Tui> i have 1 doc translate and the middle of other 01:11 < A-Tui> this night i hope to finish 01:12 < Mike1> A-Tui: excellent :) 01:13 < A-Tui> i wan install windowmaker, where i must put desc file? 01:14 < Mike1> 0_o 01:15 < Mike1> A-Tui: if you are using 1.7 its already there 01:15 < A-Tui> mmm no 01:15 < A-Tui> its for the other build 01:15 < Mike1> 1.5 ? 01:15 < A-Tui> i build 1.6pre3 01:15 < Mike1> ah 01:15 < A-Tui> and its operative 01:16 < A-Tui> but now i havent a window manager 01:16 < Mike1> A-Tui: you can find the windomaker stuff for 1.6.x in ext-config/windowmaker/ 01:16 < A-Tui> yes, i found there 01:17 < A-Tui> mmmm i see, ok, im going to try to build it 01:17 < Mike1> good luck :) 01:18 < A-Tui> tnx :) 02:18 -!- rxr_ [~rxr@port-212-202-173-211.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("sleeping") 02:28 < A-Tui> what is a kernel "chrp" image? 03:38 -!- A-Tui [~eof@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("GNU's not UniX") 03:59 -!- tibit_ [~tibit@p508AB17B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:08 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Der Sinn des Lebens ist die Suche nach eben jenem.") 04:08 -!- netrunner_ [~netrunner@p508029E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Operation timed out) 04:16 -!- tibit [~tibit@p508AB733.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:41 -!- ruddur [~ruddur@rocklinux.ruddur.net] has quit ("No windows for this server") 06:46 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 07:08 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090ADAB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07:23 -!- kasc [~kasc@p50909DFD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:18 -!- Henry [~henrique@200.204.171.164] has joined #rocklinux 08:18 -!- Parabull_ [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08:19 -!- Parabull_ [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has joined #rocklinux 08:26 -!- Henry [~henrique@200.204.171.164] has quit ("Cliente IRC saindo") 08:36 -!- fooblah [~slackware@pD95461C7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:36 < fooblah> hello 08:37 < blindcoder> moin 08:39 < fooblah> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/0-glibc23.out 08:39 < fooblah> there is no /var/adm/logs 08:40 < fooblah> hmm... 08:40 < blindcoder> but there is $root/varr/adm/logs 08:40 < blindcoder> you ran `./scripts/Build-Target`? 08:40 < fooblah> $root = / ? 08:40 < fooblah> yes 08:41 < blindcoder> the it's /path/to/rock-src/build/*/root/var/adm/logs 08:41 < fooblah> ahh i c :) 09:09 < owl> morgaehn 09:10 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has quit ("leaving") 09:11 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:11 < owl> re 09:12 < blindcoder> moin owl 09:12 < owl> hi blindy 09:13 < fooblah> owl hello 09:14 < owl> hi fooblah 09:17 < fooblah> if i make ./scripts/Build-Target -cfg bootdisk, are there any gcc options like march=i686? 09:20 < blindcoder> fooblah: they don't appear in the logs 09:20 < fooblah> hmm... ok 09:20 < blindcoder> they are issued by the gcc_wrapper. 09:21 < blindcoder> there was a thread about that on the mailinglist recently and I think clifford wanted ho add hdis to the docs 09:21 < fooblah> i think thats a good idea... its very strange if u tail the logs and there are no gcc options 09:22 < blindcoder> yes... 09:29 < kasc> moin 09:29 < fooblah> kasc hello 09:30 < owl> hi kasc 09:30 < blindcoder> hi kasc 09:32 * owl makes herselve a coffee with poison. someone else want one? 09:32 * blindcoder raises hand 09:34 < owl> ok blindy *giving you a cup of poisoned coffee* 09:34 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p5081397A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:34 < tcr> moin all 09:34 < owl> ah my special friend is there... 09:38 < blindcoder> moin tcr 10:22 < fake> blindcoder: nwn linux client public beta is out 10:23 < owl> still NWN-fever? 10:24 < blindcoder> fake: I don't have nwn 10:53 < fooblah> hmm... 11:20 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p5081397A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 11:46 < fooblah> what does this mean: -job<stage> ? 11:49 < blindcoder> i'm not sure... 11:49 < blindcoder> maybe which stage the compile is 11:53 < blindcoder> maybe which stage the compile is 11:54 < blindcoder> oops 12:09 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p5081397A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:09 < tcr> re! 12:34 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dhcp-153-96-232-25.iwu.fhg.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:34 < daja77> hi all 12:38 < ringo30> hi deja77 12:38 < owl> hi daja77 12:42 < daja77> hi ringo, owl 12:42 < daja77> anybody knows how to compile a bison/flex program with automake/autoconf? 12:47 * daja77 thought that nobody wants to do such crap 12:54 < daja77> owl: awake? 12:56 < owl> daja77: yes, something similar to this 12:57 < daja77> you slept over anchoras, yesterday, right? 12:57 < owl> yeah. as always 12:57 < daja77> but calling me a whimp *g* 12:58 < owl> ... 12:59 < daja77> never mind 13:00 < owl> 3 hours remaining... yipeeeh! 13:00 < daja77> huh? 13:01 < owl> 3 hours to death... aeh. i meant end of work for this week! then i can sleep again - in the train or so 13:01 < daja77> try to sleep, that helps 13:02 < owl> helping with what? 13:02 < fooblah> hmm... 13:02 < daja77> helping not to be tired 13:03 < owl> i'm not tired. 13:05 < daja77> good 13:06 < fooblah> *zZzz...* 13:07 < owl> fooblah: eh. you're always sleeping and/or tired... don't complain about me :P 13:07 < fooblah> hehe 13:07 < fooblah> don't lie :) 13:07 < owl> i don't :P 13:07 < fooblah> hmm... i'm just a little bit tired... 13:08 < owl> a bit - *lol* 13:08 < fooblah> hehe 13:09 < fooblah> pizza vs mcdonalds 13:10 < owl> hmmm... pizza... frutti di mare please ;) 13:10 < daja77> yeah, frutti di mare sounds great, get one for me plz 13:11 < owl> *g* /me forgot her moneybox at home... (incl. ec-card...) --> no food for me, today 13:11 < owl> *cries* 13:12 < fooblah> hmm... 13:12 * daja77 hands over 10 ¤ to owl 13:12 < fooblah> i'm "vegetarier" 13:12 < owl> thx. and now in real money, please, daja77 :P 13:13 < daja77> fooblah: oh no 13:13 < owl> "jedem das seine, mir das meiste" *vbeg* 13:13 < fooblah> oh yes 13:13 < fooblah> owl lol 13:13 < daja77> owl: care a bit more for your own stuff, babe 13:14 < owl> *grrrr* 13:14 < fooblah> i get only 400euro... zivi's are so poor... *gg* 13:15 < fooblah> tft, i'm coming :) 13:15 < daja77> owl: don't get angry, shit happens 13:15 < owl> gnaaaa. stop this, fooblah! 13:15 < fooblah> owl hehe 13:15 < fooblah> muhahah :) 13:15 < owl> ...always 13:16 < fooblah> and i work... no i don't work... i chill in my work :) 13:16 < owl> fooblah: i guess you want to be shot or so? 13:16 < fooblah> duron 850, 256mb ram, how long will it take to build a rocklinux bootable iso? 13:16 < daja77> 2-3 days 13:16 < fooblah> owl *hrhr* do u have a gun? :) 13:16 < fooblah> daja77 =?"$ 13:17 < fooblah> hmm... 13:17 < owl> fooblah: sure. in my sweetest dreams 13:17 < daja77> fooblah: want did you want to express 13:17 < fooblah> i began yesterday morning, in the evening it was completed with a few errors 13:17 < daja77> owl: don't hesitate, shoot him 13:17 < fooblah> so it can't take so long 13:17 < fooblah> help, they want to kill me *gg* 13:18 < daja77> hehe, you are looking for help, *here* 13:18 < owl> that's cruel fscking life... 13:19 < owl> use visual studio.NET and upgrade your PC... 13:20 < daja77> *gnaarf* 13:20 < owl> pardon? 13:21 < daja77> why should I ugrade to run such crap? 13:22 < owl> if your fscking company forces you to use that crap?! 13:22 < daja77> they don't 13:22 < owl> then you're a lucky person 13:23 < daja77> indeed 13:23 < owl> yipeeh! project finished! 13:23 < daja77> if don't count that autoconf crap I have to do now 13:23 < daja77> owl: congrats 13:23 < owl> tests not failed. :))) *jumping around* 13:24 < owl> thx 13:24 < daja77> fooblah: still alive? 13:24 < owl> *counting time in seconds until 15:45 o'clock* 13:24 < fooblah> daja77 no 13:24 < daja77> oh soryy 13:24 < fooblah> gg* 13:25 < fooblah> it's all your fault 13:25 < daja77> I have no gun 13:25 < fooblah> but u said to owl she has to shoot me 13:26 < daja77> she*d done it anyway, I was just fed up with your pleas 13:26 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:26 < daja77> hi Ge0rG 13:26 < fooblah> doors - ghost song *chill* 13:26 < Ge0rG> good morning 13:27 < fooblah> Ge0rG morning 13:27 < owl> hi Ge0rG 13:28 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p5081397A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 13:29 < fooblah> is anybody here who likes rock'n roll like jimi hendrix, the doors, ten years after etc.? 13:30 < owl> <-- not 13:30 < fooblah> hmm... 13:31 < daja77> fooblah: dunno 13:31 < daja77> owl: it is too optimistic, right? 13:32 < owl> daja77: jup 13:32 < owl> np: goethes erben - der spiegel, once again 13:33 < daja77> daja77's quick poll: who hates autoconf? 13:33 < fooblah> i'm hunting for food... l8r :) 13:34 < owl> fooblah: for me, too, please 13:34 < daja77> fooblah: hunting with a gun, hehe 13:35 < owl> gnaaaa... ancoras is soooo slow... 13:35 < owl> (at least with the current build) ;) 13:36 < daja77> it is an intel 13:36 < owl> an amd is not better imho. 13:37 < daja77> of course 13:37 < daja77> amd will rule out intel with their hammer processors 13:37 < owl> but - aehm - if you want to give me the money for a notebook with SPARC or so... 13:37 < daja77> *rofl* 13:39 < daja77> maybe you can buy a powerbook 13:40 < owl> aeh. mac... go away. 13:40 < owl> and: nope. i won't buy another machine... 13:41 < daja77> well, the old iMac of a friend did a complete X compile within 3 hours 13:41 < owl> normaly ancoras is fast enough (1.8 ghz, p4 mobile, 512 mb ram, 40 gb hd and so) 13:41 < daja77> that is the problem with intel 13:42 < daja77> I have an Athlon 1800+, which means equivalent to the speed of a Pentium 4 1800 Mhz 13:42 < daja77> but the real clock of the amd is just 1200 Mhz 13:44 < daja77> summary you have 500Mhz out for nothing but heat 13:45 < owl> ... 13:45 < daja77> nothing to add, ok 13:48 < owl> nope. just: there's no sense to discuss... 13:48 < daja77> So I have won 13:49 < owl> if there's no discussion, then there's no winner or loser 13:49 < daja77> owl: you have no pro pentium arguments, that's not my fault 13:50 < owl> as i said before: there's no sense to discuss 13:50 < blindcoder> hmm... IIRC the AMDs burnt themselves at TUM while doing neuronal networks)correct translation?) 13:50 < blindcoder> the Intels worked just fine... 13:51 < daja77> never mind, have fun with ancoras but stop complaining about it 13:51 < owl> no, no, no 13:51 < daja77> blindcoder: they haet is equivalent with amd or intel, now 13:51 < daja77> heat 13:51 < daja77> owl: please stop sobbing 13:52 < daja77> blindcoder: the chipsets for both are broken in the same way too 13:52 < owl> i do what i want *ARGH* 13:52 < blindcoder> daja77: let her bitch about her processor, or do you want her to bitch about you? *g* 13:53 < blindcoder> daja77: I don't know, I'm not into hardware. 13:53 < blindcoder> daja77: esden told me about that TUM thing 13:54 < daja77> blindcoder: I'll let her the beloved notebook, don't want it anyway 13:55 < daja77> blindcoder: I'm looking forward to the 64Bit Hammer Processor coming out this year 13:55 < blindcoder> daja77: why? do you have that much RAM? 13:56 < blindcoder> daja77: as I understood it, 64Bit doesn't much more than allow access to more memory... 13:56 < daja77> huh, I have 1 GB RAM now, will that be sufficient 13:57 < daja77> no they are outperforming intel processors at a rate 13:57 < daja77> they are more alpha like 13:57 < blindcoder> hmm... I'm perfectly fine with my P4 1.6GHz 13:57 < blindcoder> 1.8GHz 13:57 < blindcoder> I rarely use all of its power 13:58 < daja77> I'd like to have a Hammer SMP Machine to play with 13:58 < blindcoder> what would you do with it? 13:58 < blindcoder> run SETI@Home? 13:58 < owl> playing with it... 13:58 < blindcoder> dnetc? 13:58 < blindcoder> fuck it? 13:58 < daja77> owl: damn right 13:58 < blindcoder> or what? 13:59 < owl> fscking and playing with it, blindcoder 13:59 < daja77> blindcoder: I'm doing parallel programming at university 13:59 < daja77> it would be fun doing it at home 13:59 < blindcoder> what do you program? 14:00 < blindcoder> number cruncher? 14:00 < blindcoder> decision finding? 14:00 < daja77> owl: I'm not in love with my computer as you are 14:00 < blindcoder> path prediction? 14:00 < daja77> blindcoder: scientific computing 14:00 < blindcoder> brb 14:01 < daja77> owl: at least I do not sleep with them 14:01 < owl> *g* 14:01 < owl> why not? it's fun... 14:02 < owl> a computer is better than a human... and - at least ancoras is warm enough to hug, it... ;) especially if you run a rock-build... :P 14:02 < daja77> dunno, didn't feel like it 14:02 < daja77> but the noise 14:03 < owl> ah. just use music instead of this 14:03 < owl> and a "schnarchender" man makes more noise than a cooler 14:03 < blindcoder> snoring :) 14:03 < blindcoder> daja77: yes, what kind. I'm interested in programming :) 14:03 < owl> thx 14:04 < daja77> owl: mein schnarchen hör ich ja nicht *g* 14:05 < daja77> blindcoder: at the moment we did some algorithms like gauss-seidel and measured speed up and stuff 14:05 < owl> daja77: :P 14:06 < blindcoder> daja77: hmm.. I'd have to read up on gauss-seidel... but it sounds like you do some heavy arithmetics, less memory things... 14:06 < daja77> that's right 14:07 < daja77> for now I'm doing this on the CliC https://www.tu-chemnitz.de/urz/anwendungen/CLIC/ 14:09 < daja77> maybe I can start implementing an astronomy algorithm on a SPARC SMP Cluster using Taskpools 14:09 < blindcoder> yes, that's a nice cluster 14:10 < daja77> it is a bit slow (Pentium III and only 100Mbit Connections) but it is ok 14:10 < blindcoder> well, you can't have everything 14:10 < daja77> I heard that they are planning to build a new one 14:10 < blindcoder> if it's too slow, then get yourself a better one 14:10 < blindcoder> and don't bitch about it 14:11 < daja77> Oh they did a nice job setting the thing, you can even access your homedir on the cluster 14:11 < daja77> setting up 14:11 < blindcoder> I think that was exactly what you wanted owl not to do, wasn't it? 14:11 < daja77> playing with a cluster? 14:12 < blindcoder> bitching about hardware 14:13 * blindcoder now installing a dual Xeon 2GHz machine with 4 GB RAM... bbl 14:13 < daja77> oh I'm not bitching, everybody know, that we need a new one, it is a nice machine anyway 14:13 < daja77> you lucky bastard 14:13 < blindcoder> daja77: wait till you see my monitor :) 14:14 < blindcoder> daja77: https://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/Devices/Monitor/MONITOR_Color_24_Premium_CRT.html 14:15 < daja77> sun monitors are nice indeed 14:15 < blindcoder> yes, they are :) 14:15 < daja77> I have one connected to the machine we use to control the machine tool 14:16 < blindcoder> hmm... 14:17 < blindcoder> I have 5 standing around at home 14:17 < blindcoder> unused like the SGI one 14:17 < daja77> do you need all of them? 14:18 < blindcoder> none at the moment 14:18 < blindcoder> the SGI needs composite sync (which neither my gfxcard nor my gfx coble supports) 14:18 < blindcoder> and the SUNs usually connected to the moniters are currently offline because I have nno room 14:18 < daja77> hmmm 14:20 * daja77 is cursing that autoconf/automake bunch for not documentating anything important 14:20 < blindcoder> I _LOVE_ this machine 14:21 < blindcoder> I think I'll abuse it for a ROCK build... 14:21 < owl> which one? 14:21 < daja77> cluster build 14:21 < blindcoder> the dual Xeon 2GHz 14:21 < owl> uff 14:21 < blindcoder> daja77: sure. 2 processors == cluster 14:21 < blindcoder> owl: 4 GB of RAM 14:21 < owl> NO! 14:21 < blindcoder> and all that thi machine will do is hosting three tomcats... 14:22 < daja77> bah, that java crap sucks 14:22 < blindcoder> daja77: indeed. we have nothing but problems with it 14:23 < daja77> it is even worse than php 14:23 < blindcoder> actually, I like PHP. I prefer perl, though 14:23 < blindcoder> real 0m39.463s 14:23 < blindcoder> user 0m27.150s 14:23 < blindcoder> sys 0m6.620s 14:23 < blindcoder> compiling Apache with SSL 14:24 < blindcoder> THAT would be a machine for cliffords reference builds :D 14:24 < daja77> I think I'll write cgis in C next time 14:24 < daja77> blindcoder: full ack 14:25 < blindcoder> daja77: hmm... never tried cgis in C... I have seen some horrible, horrible things being done with .exe in cgi-directories on a Win2k server 14:25 < blindcoder> (and even worse in db4web >_<) 14:25 < daja77> I had to do this for creating a web based configuration for a sercos device (on Linux) 14:26 < daja77> Win2k != Server 14:27 < daja77> well, C cgis compiled with dietlibc could be fun 14:27 < blindcoder> daja77: actually, show me how to use ASP with Access backends on Linux, and I'll gladly yank the plug out of our Win2k server over the weekend 14:28 < daja77> man asp2php 14:28 < blindcoder> Access backends... remember? 14:28 < blindcoder> also, our customers want ASP, not PHP 14:29 < daja77> thought you could access the Access via ODBC with php 14:29 < blindcoder> and yes I know that there is an apache plugin for ASP, which doesn't have the full functionality yet, so I can't deploy it 14:29 < blindcoder> I'd be the first in line to kill the Win2k servers 14:29 < blindcoder> I even managed to get Linux onto our SUN E10k 14:30 < daja77> dump access to a readable format and feed it to a postgreSQL 14:30 < daja77> blindcoder: congrats, for removing Slowlartus 14:30 < blindcoder> daja77: is there somehing that looks like MS Access, works like MS Access and is as easy as MS Access to give our customers? (Windows Clients) 14:31 < daja77> hmm, I thought Ximian had something like this 14:31 < blindcoder> and asp2php must work perfectly in converting the Access commands to PHP commands (okay, I can implement that part myself) 14:32 < blindcoder> `echo checkout Ximian for a MS Access replacement >>~/TODO` 14:32 < blindcoder> thanks :) 14:33 < daja77> try reading https://www.itworld.com/nl/lnx_desktop/08152002/ 14:36 < daja77> sorry, looked up ximian, they don't have such a thing advertised, maybe ask them per mail 14:36 < blindcoder> daja77: except the list of databases that was not news to me, thanks anyways 14:37 < blindcoder> daja77: okay, I'll do. thanks 14:37 < blindcoder> brb 14:41 < blindcoder> okay 14:41 < daja77> I have an idea about your problem 14:41 < blindcoder> hm? 14:42 < daja77> use a postres database and use ms access just as frontend 14:42 < blindcoder> is that possible? 14:43 < daja77> I read that some guys in the real world are doing right this 14:44 < blindcoder> hmm... 14:44 < blindcoder> have to read up on this 14:45 < daja77> https://www.developer.com/open/article.php/631251 14:46 < daja77> you could even use .NET with it *giggle* 14:46 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-3-47.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 14:46 < rolla> re 14:46 < daja77> hi alphaman rolla ;) 14:47 < rolla> re DDR boy 14:47 < owl> hi rolla 14:47 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-1-216.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:47 < rolla> re owl 14:47 < daja77> rolla: this is unfair 14:47 < rolla> warum? 14:48 < daja77> dunno, just don't like it 14:49 < daja77> blindcoder: just bookmark https://techdocs.postgresql.org/ 14:51 < blindcoder> thanks, I'll have a look at it on monday 14:51 < blindcoder> cause I'm going home now :) 14:51 < blindcoder> bye 14:51 < daja77> bye 14:51 < owl> bye blindcoder 14:52 < owl> gnaaaa... stupid amd-stuff... 100 % when idling 14:52 < daja77> owl: you have to wait less than an hour now ;) 14:52 < owl> daja77: yeah. 14:52 < daja77> what do you mean? 14:52 < owl> my machine at work... 14:53 < daja77> it is windows idling 14:53 < owl> 100 % of CPU used... and used RAM increasing... with 2 putty-sessions, visual studio.net and winamp 14:54 < daja77> what windoze is it? 14:55 < owl> win 2k 14:56 < daja77> I would have bet all my money on this *g* 14:59 < owl> why? 14:59 < daja77> it is so typical in such environment, that makes it so easy to win 15:01 < daja77> it can be deduced by rememering that there is no win xp sever version out yet and the .NET stuff is too new for NT4 15:01 < daja77> but let's stop talking about that now, it is bad for karma 15:02 < daja77> rolla: what time is it in Missouri now? 15:06 < rolla> y 15:06 < rolla> 806 15:09 < rolla> daja77: https://joel.maisenhelder.net/server_room.shtml 15:13 < daja77> rolla: nice, you can even see the rock login screen 15:13 < fooblah> hmm... i'm infected 15:13 < rolla> yeah 15:14 < daja77> rolla: I'm just surfing a bit over your page 15:16 < rolla> daja77: :) it is a small page 15:17 < daja77> *g* i finished 15:18 < rolla> daja77: I have a 6 month old son so I have not much time to work on it 15:18 < daja77> doesn't matter, nice pictures of your son 15:18 < rolla> it is more of a place to put pictures :) 15:18 < rolla> danke 15:18 < daja77> I didn't put up much stuff on my page either 15:19 < rolla> what is your pages URL? 15:19 < daja77> https://lospalmos.net ;) 15:21 < rolla> 404: Document not found 15:22 < rolla> 404: Dokument nicht gefunden 15:23 < daja77> ooops, did the guys at university messed it up, just checking, thx 15:24 < rolla> :) 15:25 < daja77> it is messed up for other students accounts, too, sending a bug report, thx again 15:27 < rolla> daja77: what are you studying at university? 15:27 < daja77> computer science 15:28 < rolla> :) 15:29 < daja77> hmm, they've announced a maintainance for today between 6-7 am 15:29 < rolla> :P 15:30 < daja77> rolla: huh? 15:30 < rolla> nothing 15:30 < daja77> ok 15:40 < daja77> bug report is out and accepted from the bug report system 15:42 < daja77> damn it is friday, if they guys are at home already it will be fixed on monday, duh 15:43 < daja77> owl: do you leave now? 15:43 < owl> nope... have to finish something first...(getting sources and starting compile) 15:44 < daja77> what a pity 15:45 < owl> :P 15:46 < daja77> *lalala* 15:47 < Mike1> *lelele* 15:47 < Mike1> moin all 15:47 < kasc> could anyone with a running linux pls do me a favor? 15:48 < Mike1> kasc: sure 15:48 < kasc> i need the scancode for scroll lock and print 15:48 < daja77> welcome Mike1 15:48 < daja77> hi kasc 15:48 < kasc> (reassembling the keyboard after cleaning can be quite difficult ;) 15:49 < kasc> hi daja77 15:49 < daja77> if help me and tell me where I find this stuff 15:52 < owl> hi Mike1 15:55 < daja77> Mike1: have you ever compiled a bison/flex based app with autoconf/automake? 15:57 < ringo30> kasc: showkey -s gives 0x46 0xc6 15:58 < owl> <-- off. 15:59 < owl> cya 15:59 < kasc> for which key? 15:59 < daja77> owl: bye 15:59 < ringo30> kasc: scoll lock 16:00 < kasc> and for print? 16:02 < kasc> (or pause) 16:03 < ringo30> printscrn: 0xe0 0x2a 0xe0 0x37 0xe0 0xb7 0xe0 0xaa 16:05 < ringo30> pasue: 0xe1 0x1d 0x45 0xe1 0x9d 0xc5 16:06 < kasc> thx a lot :) 16:07 < ringo30> no probs 16:07 < Mike1> daja77: i guess, why? 16:08 < daja77> it fucks up with the package I converted to autoconf here 16:09 < Mike1> mm... 16:10 < daja77> well, I have a .y and a .l file for processing 16:11 < daja77> the damn script starts processing the .l file which depends on a .h file which is generated by bison processing the .y file *aargh* 16:11 < fooblah> hmm... 16:12 < daja77> I don't know how to influence the build order 16:12 < Mike1> daja77: would have too like 1/2 a bit deeper on this, and i cannot do so atm 16:13 < daja77> ok let's do it on monday then? 16:13 < Mike1> i have time later as well :) 16:13 < Mike1> or then on monday yeah 16:13 < Mike1> will be around tomorrow too :) 16:14 < daja77> how much later, it is afternoon already, and I want to leave today ;) 16:14 < Mike1> daja77: afternoon 16:14 < Mike1> mike@odin:~ > date 16:14 < Mike1> Fri Mar 21 09:24:33 CST 2003 16:14 < Mike1> *ggg* 16:15 < daja77> *g* I know that you just got out of bed 16:15 < Mike1> yeah :) isn't it great :) 16:15 < daja77> definitely 16:16 < daja77> unfortunately I cannot go to work on saturdays 16:16 < Mike1> owl: left the bed a bit earlier, but thats ok 16:16 < daja77> she's on the way home 16:16 < Mike1> daja77: well we can get it done on monday then 16:16 < Mike1> daja77: you know i always hang around :) 16:17 < daja77> thx, that would be great 16:17 < daja77> *g* 16:17 < Mike1> anyways now i must get to do a little bit of work 16:17 < daja77> ok 16:17 * Mike1 away working 16:18 < rolla> Mike1: 16:20 < Mike1> rolla: ? 16:21 < rolla> :)\ 16:21 < rolla> my machines live full 16:22 < Mike1> rolla: great! 16:22 < Mike1> rolla: is it running gnome 2 already? 16:24 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 16:25 < daja77> re hi blindcoder 16:25 < rolla> yes 16:25 < rolla> Mike1: 1.5.18-gnome2 16:26 < blindcoder> ah 16:26 < blindcoder> finally at home 16:28 < Mike1> nice 16:29 < Mike1> hi blindy 16:30 < daja77> blindcoder: that reminds me of going home myself 16:31 < blindcoder> hi Mike1 16:31 < blindcoder> daja77: hehe :) 16:31 < blindcoder> daja77: time for a weekend 16:31 < daja77> yeah, a party weekend 16:43 < daja77> ok, I'm leaving now, heading homeward 16:44 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dhcp-153-96-232-25.iwu.fhg.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 17:11 -!- netrunner_ [~netrunner@p50802D8F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:36 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-3-47.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ("Reconnecting") 17:36 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-3-47.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 17:41 < tfing> yop 17:42 < Mike1> hi tfing 18:01 -!- kasc [~kasc@p50909DFD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:29 -!- javito [~javito@ip33-167.furb.br] has joined #rocklinux 18:29 < javito> tag 18:33 < Mike1> javito: !! 18:33 < Mike1> hi! 18:51 < javito> hi Mike1 18:58 < rolla> grr 18:58 < rolla> die omniback die 19:02 < Mike1> rolla: 0_o 19:02 -!- fooblah [~slackware@pD95461C7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:03 < rolla> yeah 19:05 < Mike1> wtf? 19:08 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p50801558.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 19:25 < owl> re 19:36 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p508134A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:36 < tcr> re 19:37 < Mike1> wb owl und tcr 19:37 < owl> hi Mike1 19:42 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-075-080.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:42 < daja77> re 19:42 < owl> re daja77 19:42 < daja77> re hi owl 19:43 < Mike1> wb daja77 19:43 -!- bluefire [bluefire@dhcp2.mechanik.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:43 < daja77> hey Mike1, what time is it? ;) 19:43 < daja77> hi bluefire 19:44 < bluefire> hi daja77 19:44 < Mike1> daja77: mike@odin:~ > date 19:44 < Mike1> Fri Mar 21 12:54:12 CST 2003 19:44 < Mike1> mike@odin:~ > 19:44 < Mike1> daja77: its almost ... lunch time :)) 19:44 < Mike1> *g 19:44 < daja77> happy meal 19:45 < Mike1> daja77: said almost :) 19:45 < Mike1> i need to finish yet some stuff first 19:45 < daja77> I almost never have lunch 19:45 < Mike1> daja77: why so? 19:45 < daja77> I get up late, so I have breakfast and dinner 19:47 < netrunner_> wow - now the harddisk of my build system crashed. wasn't used anyway since I compiled on a nfs share ... but no system disk any more :( 19:47 < daja77> uuh, compiling on nfs shares sucks 19:48 < daja77> it is a pity, that you can't compile rock on knoppix 19:50 < javito> yes, its a really pity 19:50 < daja77> rolla: are you out there? 19:52 -!- ruddur [~ruddur@rocklinux.ruddur.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:52 < daja77> hi ruddur 19:53 < owl> hi ruddur 19:53 < ruddur> hi owl, daja77 19:53 < daja77> boah, I got a 77kb spam mail 19:55 < daja77> ruddur: what's up in Charleroi today? 19:55 < ruddur> nothing special 19:55 < daja77> oh 19:55 < ruddur> manifestation of students for stop the war 19:56 < daja77> we had that yesterday 19:57 < daja77> but I calmed down since then ;) 20:02 -!- kasc [~kasc@p50909CAF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:04 < rolla> daja77: yes 20:05 < daja77> rolla: they changed the error message to 503: service not available, so they have more problems than I thought 20:06 < rolla> :) 20:06 < kasc> re 20:06 < daja77> rolla: btw, the war is getting worse 20:06 < daja77> re hi kasc 20:07 < kasc> does anyone know a program that can use a webcam? 20:07 < daja77> what do you want to do with it 20:07 < tfing> kasc: xawtv 20:07 < tfing> camE 20:08 < tfing> camserv 20:08 < daja77> ophone 20:08 < rolla> daja77: yes I know that I am watching the news sites 20:08 < kasc> daja77: first i only want to check if it works at all 20:08 < daja77> what camera model 20:08 < tfing> kasc: then xawtv is a quick test 20:09 < kasc> but i'd like to have some kind of voip tool that is compatible with netmeeting and also supports webcams 20:09 < daja77> ophone or gnomemeeting 20:14 < kasc> hmm... 20:14 < kasc> has anyone got xawtv to work with a Voodoo 3500 TV? 20:16 < kasc> btw the webcam is a Logitech QuickCam Web 20:21 < kasc> where can i find ophone? 20:39 < daja77> it should be available at https://www.openh323.org 20:40 < javito> gnomemeeting rls 20:41 < Mike1> *yawnnnnn* 21:02 * tcr brb 21:02 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p508134A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 21:22 < daja77> why do get a warning that CD1 will not be bootable even if I supply a bootdisk target? 21:58 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p50801814.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:58 -!- javito [~javito@ip33-167.furb.br] has quit ("Client Exiting") 21:59 < owl> hi blindcoder 21:59 < blindcoder> rehi 21:59 < daja77> hi blindcoder 22:00 < Mike1> hi blindy 22:01 < daja77> Mike1: I'm lost with the network config on 1.7, can you help me? 22:01 < Mike1> hehe 22:01 < Mike1> :) 22:01 < Mike1> daja77: sure one second 22:02 < Mike1> daja77: what exatcly do you need my help with? 22:03 < Mike1> daja77: the network configuration file is: /etc/conf/network 22:03 < Mike1> simply edit it and cofig net as you wish/need :) 22:03 < daja77> thx, I will have a look at 22:04 < Mike1> daja77: quite easy don't worry 22:04 < daja77> the stone tool is broken on this 22:04 < daja77> the standard says the files should be under /etc/sysconfig 22:04 -!- bluefire [bluefire@dhcp2.mechanik.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:04 < Mike1> daja77: mmm.. will look at that next week., just for reference what iso did you use to install ? or was it your own build? 22:05 < daja77> No this is the install I have on my trouble box (19C3 drock) 22:05 < Mike1> daja77: big deal, cd /etc; ln -sf config sysconfig 22:05 < Mike1> there you have your standards :) 22:06 < Mike1> daja77: actually that 19c3 build that you downloaded from dROCK server, is a a Clifford build of the generic target 22:06 < daja77> sure, but it would be nice to have, I've found the configuration files on every new distro out there but rock :( 22:08 < Mike1> daja77: hehe well, you were warned from the beggining that rock was difficult and different right? 22:08 < Mike1> :) 22:08 < Mike1> daja77: anyways where is the fun part if you can always find things that easily 22:10 < daja77> Mike1: Nikolaus claimed that rock is FHS compliant but it isn't 22:11 < daja77> I realized that parts of the network config did not work because the driver wasn't loaded, so I hacked the script to load it 22:12 < Mike1> daja77: you don't want to know my personal opinion about Nikolaus ... 22:12 < daja77> ooops 22:12 < Mike1> :) 22:13 < Mike1> daja77: so now network is up and running? 22:30 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813F1E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:31 < ringo30> hi tcr 22:40 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p50801814.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22:51 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813F1E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 23:07 < ringo30> Anybody know why gpm support 4 mc is failing ? 23:08 < ringo30> It keeps on core dumping.... 23:15 < daja77> rolla: I've got good news for you 23:18 < rolla> was? 23:18 < daja77> my homepage is online again 23:18 < rolla> :) 23:18 < rolla> what is the URL again? 23:18 < daja77> https://lospalmos.net 23:19 < Mike1> *g 23:19 < rolla> slow 23:20 < daja77> sorry, maybe they haven't fixed everything 23:21 < rolla> scool == school 23:21 < daja77> hmm, where did you find that? 23:22 < rolla> about 23:22 < rolla> Administrating the scool net 23:24 < daja77> fixed 23:24 < daja77> thx 23:24 < rolla> nod 23:24 < Mike1> *g 23:24 < rolla> np 23:25 < daja77> ? 23:26 < rolla> np = no problem 23:26 < daja77> well, I also know it as now playing, sorry 23:26 < rolla> ;) 23:26 < rolla> np 23:45 < Mike1> n8 all 23:45 < owl> gn8 Mike1 23:45 < daja77> n8 Mike1 and all 23:45 < Mike1> owl: *HUG* 23:45 < daja77> hehe 23:46 < daja77> n8 23:47 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-075-080.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") --- Log closed Sat Mar 22 00:00:01 2003