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--- Log opened Wed Mar 26 00:00:12 2003 --- Day changed Wed Mar 26 2003 00:03 < ringo78> anyone running sawfish? I get this error. error--> (file-error "No such file or directory" "sawfish/wm/misc") any sugstions? 00:04 < Mike1> ringo78: Jan submited a patch to the list a few minutes ago that fix this 00:05 < ringo78> ahhhh I'll have a look, lucky me ... 00:05 < Mike1> ringo78: :) 00:13 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("Mañana más y mejor") 00:15 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@ASt-Lambert-101-1-1-206.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 00:27 -!- tfing [~tfing@ASt-Lambert-101-1-2-142.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:30 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Changing server") 00:32 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:39 < daja77> gn8 you all 00:39 < Mike1> n8 daja77 00:41 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-078-059.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 00:56 < zer0_o> =) 00:56 < zer0_o> look ... 00:57 < Mike1> hi zer0_o 00:57 < zer0_o> something fun.. 00:57 < zer0_o> https://sampo.rdx.net/ledcontrol/#shots 00:58 < Mike1> nice :) 00:58 < zer0_o> *g* 01:00 < ringo78> Nice simulate kernel panic, only a screen saver with it fun ... 01:02 < zer0_o> kernel panic ? 01:02 < zer0_o> hi ringo78 01:04 < ringo78> Yehh then you dont have to crash your system you just leen back put a nice kernel panic on screen and blint the leds ;-) 01:04 < ringo78> blink sri 01:07 < ringo78> morse should be fun to .... .. --.. . .-. ----- --- 01:08 < ringo78> I ones had a morse device /dev/morse was cool 2. 01:08 < zer0_o> *g* 01:08 < zer0_o> *gggg* 01:23 < zer0_o> ringo 01:34 < ringo78> yes ? 01:35 < zer0_o> you've got some time for me ? 01:50 < esden> weee I found it !!! 01:50 < esden> yesss!!! 01:50 < esden> re hi all so by the way 01:53 < zer0_o> hi esden 02:22 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 03:09 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Der Sinn des Lebens ist die Suche nach eben jenem.") 03:24 < zer0_o> =) i have A NICe moD iNStalLED , IT DisPLAyS THE nETWOrktRAFFic on tHE keYboARD LEd's =), BUT the mAIN function OF thesE leDS IS not DIsABLED .. SO the wRIting is A litTLE BIT WEIReD ;DDD 04:00 -!- tibit [~tibit@p508ABBB8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:09 -!- netrunner_ [~netrunner@p50802D27.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04:17 -!- tibit_ [~tibit@p508ABC27.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:24 < zer0_o> n8 all 04:25 -!- zer0_o [~bino@pop-zh-13-1-dialup-117.freesurf.ch] has left #rocklinux () 05:37 -!- netrunner_ [~netrunner@p50802DF6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:58 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@ASt-Lambert-101-1-3-217.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 08:09 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 08:09 < blindcoder> moin 08:11 -!- tfing [~tfing@ASt-Lambert-101-1-1-206.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:33 < kasc> moin 08:33 < blindcoder> moin kasc 08:33 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1C904.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:38 < kasc> moin blindcoder 08:39 < kasc> looks like i could start installing my current build this afternoon :) 08:41 < blindcoder> nice :) 08:41 < blindcoder> I still have some 50 packages not coompiling ad need a good part of it >_< 08:41 < kasc> aww 08:43 < blindcoder> and I don't want to mess up my tree more than it already is... *ahem* 08:43 < blindcoder> find . -name '.#*' | wc -l 08:43 < blindcoder> 250+ 08:43 < blindcoder> *whistles innocently* 08:43 < kasc> i disabled most packages that wont build ;) 08:44 < blindcoder> yes but I nee^H^H^Hwant gimp14 and all 08:44 < kasc> still 6 failed packages in stage 9 so far :( 08:44 < kasc> gimp seems to build nicely here 08:44 < blindcoder> mplayer, dosemu, sdl >_< 08:45 < kasc> i disabled dosemu in favor of bochs... 08:45 < blindcoder> hmm... haven't tried bochs yet 08:46 < kasc> unfortunately i have far too few disc space to even try to build everything 08:46 < kasc> me neither 08:46 < blindcoder> can it do sound in dos? 08:46 < kasc> just wanted to give it a chance ;) 08:46 * blindcoder looks at his disks and is ashamed 08:46 < kasc> ? 08:47 < blindcoder> 2x 80 GB (/home and /data) and 1x 30 GB (/) 08:47 < kasc> 20 GB... thats all 08:51 < blindcoder> hmm... does ROCK take up more than 5 GB during build? 08:51 < kasc> think so 08:52 < kasc> i have 3.8 gb partitions and can either build e or gnome or kde 08:52 < blindcoder> oh... 08:53 -!- esden_ [weasel@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:53 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co -P rock-1.5 && cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs co -P rock-src-1.7 08:53 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [Thu Nov 21 19:29:37 2002] 08:53 (Users #rocklinux) 08:53 [ _snyke ] [ esden ] [ Mike1 ] [ ringo78] [ snyke ] 08:53 [ aszlig ] [ esden_] [ netrunner_] [ rolla ] [ tfing_] 08:53 [ blindcoder] [ huebi ] [ owl ] [ ruddur ] [ tibit ] 08:53 [ bluefire ] [ kasc ] [ Parabull_ ] [ SMP ] 08:53 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 19 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 19 normal] 08:53 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Tue Jun 11 09:27:41 2002 08:54 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 11 secs 08:54 < kasc> that should fix my diskspace problems for a while ;) 08:54 -!- ringo78_ [~h4cker@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux 08:55 -!- esden [weasel@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Connection reset by peer) 08:56 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Connection reset by peer) 08:56 -!- ringo78 [~h4cker@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has quit (Connection reset by peer) 09:07 < kasc> wonder why packages keep breaking in stage 9 but working in 5... 09:09 < blindcoder> bad install scripts, maybe 09:09 < blindcoder> "directory already exists" and the like 09:11 < owl> moin *yawn* 09:11 < blindcoder> moin sleepy owl 09:11 < owl> hi blindcoder 09:11 < blindcoder> aren't you at work if you're still so sleepy? 09:12 < owl> i'm at work... 09:13 < kasc> one of my favorite bugs: 09:13 < kasc> mcopidl.cc: In function `void doInterfacesHeader(FILE*)': 09:13 < kasc> mcopidl.cc:1528: internal error: Illegal instruction 09:13 < kasc> Please submit a full bug report, 09:13 < kasc> with preprocessed source if appropriate. 09:13 < kasc> See <URL:https://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/bugs.html> for instructions. 09:13 < kasc> moin owl :) 09:14 < owl> hi kasc 09:16 < blindcoder> kasc: my favorite is: can't cast unsigned int from unsigned int (or something like that) 10:02 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1C904.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 11:25 -!- daja77 [~root@dialin-145-254-076-096.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:29 < daja77> ? 11:32 -!- daja77 [~root@dialin-145-254-076-096.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Leaving") 11:37 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:43 < owl> https://www.dau-alarm.de/pictures/docs/anfrag-001_g.jpg << *cries* 11:53 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-076-096.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:54 < daja77> moin 11:55 < ringo78_> moin daja77 11:55 < daja77> hi ringo78_ 11:57 < ringo78_> all_OK ? 11:58 < daja77> yeah 11:58 < ringo78_> nice to hear. 11:59 * daja77 is downloading tons of new packages for rock *grumble* 12:02 * blindcoder wants the mplayer-sources >_< 12:02 -!- Kamui-chan [[XA]18409@p5080751A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:02 < daja77> blindcoder: grab them :) 12:02 < blindcoder> daja77: curl: (22) The requested file was not found >_< 12:02 < blindcoder> hi Shiro-kun 12:03 < Kamui-chan> hi blind 12:03 < daja77> hi Kamui-chan 12:03 < Kamui-chan> hi daja 12:05 < Kamui-chan> Is everybody know that owl online is? 12:06 < daja77> blindcoder: ftp://ftp1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/MPlayer-0.90rc5.tar.bz2 HTH 12:09 < blindcoder> i have that one, thanks, I'm missing the following: 12:09 < blindcoder> Matched: download/miguel/mplayer/font-arial-iso-8859-1.tar.bz2 12:10 < blindcoder> Matched: download/miguel/mplayer/default.tar.bz2 12:10 < blindcoder> Matched: download/miguel/mplayer-fonts/bulgarian-font-maritza-bold-1.0.2.tar.gz 12:10 < daja77> I guess you'll have to wait until Mike1 is awake :) 12:11 * blindcoder placing a bucket of cold water at a strategically good point (right above his head) 12:11 * daja77 stubs blindcoder 12:11 < blindcoder> oops(); 12:11 < blindcoder> *splash* 12:11 * blindcoder now soaking wet 12:12 * daja77 laughs loudly 12:13 < blindcoder> grmpf *walking up to daja77 and starts shaking(?) like a dog* 12:14 * daja77 kicks blindcoder 12:14 * blindcoder evades the kick and bites daja77 12:14 * daja77 scratches blindcoder's eyeballs 12:15 * blindcoder bleeds onto daja77 armani suit 12:15 < daja77> hehe 12:16 < owl> project manager can just bug, but not read *ARGH* 12:16 * daja77 just tells everybody that he bought it that way :) 12:16 < daja77> hi owl 12:16 < owl> hi daja77 12:16 < daja77> I'm just fighting with blindcoder 12:17 < daja77> hmm, I think I should go to work now 12:18 < owl> aeah. ? i spoke about my special friend "marcel" in office... /me feels reminded to the song: metallica - free speech for the dumb ;) 12:18 < daja77> owl: you are allowed free speech here *g* 12:19 < owl> daja77: *ARGH* 12:19 < owl> don't begin speaking like my parents, please!!!!!!!!!!! 12:20 < daja77> oops 12:20 < daja77> ok I'll leave out that bavarian accent :) 12:20 < owl> *gnaaaaaaa* 12:21 < daja77> should I read this as ack 12:22 < owl> *taking sword and killing daja77 * 12:22 < blindcoder> owl: calm dawn, will you? 12:22 < blindcoder> what did this... marcel do? 12:22 < blindcoder> and put away that tooth-pick 12:22 * daja77 takes down his head and starts to laugh shakingly 12:23 < owl> blindcoder: no. i'm not in the mood to calm down. 12:23 < owl> tooth-pick? 12:23 < owl> "zahnstocher"? 12:23 < blindcoder> "Zahnstocher" 12:23 < daja77> that thing you called a sword 12:23 < owl> hm. well guessed, owl. alsoo dumb people can guess *note to self* 12:24 < blindcoder> Note to self: Don't write any more Notes to self. 12:24 < daja77> blindcoder: you already have such a note *g* 12:25 < blindcoder> daja77: you're spoiling the pun there.... 12:25 < owl> blindcoder: "multiple persoenlichkeiten" are well... might i could kick my parents without being "inhaftiert" 12:25 < daja77> *gggg* 12:25 < blindcoder> owl: hehe. now, back to that marcel... 12:26 < daja77> owl: kicking is not forbidden if they keep alive 12:26 < daja77> blindcoder: need a new friend 12:27 < blindcoder> daja77: ? 12:27 < daja77> owl: inhaftiert -> arrested 12:27 < owl> blindcoder: marcel always asks if this and another and 10000 other features are already included in the product... but it's written down in the "release notes" 12:27 < daja77> blindcoder: cos you're so keen to get news about that marcel 12:28 < blindcoder> daja77: no, I'm through with having a relationship with humans. 12:29 < daja77> hehe, you fell in love with computers I guess 12:29 < blindcoder> owl: hmm..the pint it out on 100 post-its and post them to his monitor so that he has a nice puzzle 12:29 < daja77> owl: so he is just an ordinary luser 12:29 < blindcoder> daja77: with 4 2GHz HT-Processors and 4GB of RAM, to be exact 12:30 < daja77> blindcoder: nice relationship 12:30 < owl> blindcoder: to read something, you should be able to read 12:30 < blindcoder> nice and healthy, and best of all: neither betrays nor insults or disappoints you 12:30 < blindcoder> owl: vocoder? 12:30 < daja77> but it might be broken 12:31 < blindcoder> daja77: then you can fix it easily 12:31 < daja77> owl: if he cannot read what is he doin there? 12:31 < blindcoder> just take a screwdriver and a few spare-parts 12:31 < blindcoder> brb... tele 12:32 * daja77 now know at least two people who prefer a relationship to computers over that to humans 12:32 < owl> daja77: he is a _project manager_ you just need to talk! 12:32 < daja77> lol 12:33 < daja77> owl: try to get a project manager then, life can be so easy 12:33 < daja77> to become even 12:35 < daja77> it is nice talking to you, but I'll have to leave for going to work now 12:35 -!- ]ToYmAcHiNe[ [~bino@pop-be-13-2-dialup-268.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 12:35 < daja77> bye 12:35 < ]ToYmAcHiNe[> hi all 12:35 < ]ToYmAcHiNe[> ow 12:36 < owl> hi ]ToYmAcHiNe[ 12:36 * daja77 is away: leaving for work 12:36 < ]ToYmAcHiNe[> ow 12:36 -!- ]ToYmAcHiNe[ is now known as zer0_o 12:36 < zer0_o> =)) 12:36 < zer0_o> hi all 12:37 < owl> hi zer0_o 12:37 < zer0_o> =) 12:37 < owl> strange name... ;P 12:39 < zer0_o> its my friends gameplaynick 12:41 < owl> game... omg 12:42 < zer0_o> what's about it ? 12:43 < owl> nothing... 12:49 < zer0_o> how can i mount a freebsd partition in linux?? i tryed , but theres a bad superblock.. 12:57 -!- Parabull_ [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12:57 -!- zer0_o [~bino@pop-be-13-2-dialup-268.freesurf.ch] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:58 -!- Parabull_ [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has joined #rocklinux 13:14 < ringo78_> any sugs how to setup nvidia drivers ? 13:55 -!- Kamui-chan [[XA]18409@p5080751A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit () 13:59 -!- fake [~fake@eperm.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:59 < fake> re 13:59 < owl> hi fake 14:00 < fake> hi owl 14:00 < owl> how are you? 14:02 < fake> oh, okay, i assume 14:03 < fake> how b 14:03 < fake> about you? 14:03 * fake at school currently 14:04 < owl> alive. i guess. 14:04 < owl> ah so... wednesday... are you enjoying the interesting lessons? ;) 14:06 < fake> you're gonna enjoy the trip to the clinic here 14:06 < fake> it was pretty interesting (dreaming of that symmetrix...) 14:07 < owl> we were there yesterday, too. 14:07 < fake> oh... who showed you the server room? 14:08 < fake> alex said it was his first show 14:08 < fake> s,show,tour, 14:08 < owl> dunno the guy's name 14:08 < fake> was he blonde? 14:09 < owl> nope. he had brown hair (short), about 1.80 m large... 14:09 < fake> oh. timo kliemchen, by chance? 14:10 < owl> i really dunno... i just know that he is the "linux freak" at "klinikum" 14:10 < fake> oh, so it wasn't klimo ;) 14:10 < fake> pretty M$ified 14:10 < fake> but that AS/400 is sw33t 14:11 < blindcoder> the description might really be klimo 14:12 < owl> hm. imho the most of the PCs were cool... or the compaq workstations... *dreaming* 14:12 < fake> naaah 14:12 < fake> the HP NetServer LE's are lusy 14:13 < fake> better desktop-pcs 14:13 < fake> lousy 14:13 < fake> the dell boxen look good, but i never 'used' one 14:13 < fake> i'd choose the symmetrix and the as/400 14:14 < owl> yeah. and the "schande" is that the most boxes are abused ... with win on it... *cries* 14:14 < fake> (including l33t z3r14l t3rm1n4l) 14:15 < owl> *g* fake - you're also dreaming, aren't you? 14:16 * blindcoder starting /usr/src/rock-src/scripts/Config on fake serial console 14:51 < kasc> bbl (installing) 14:57 -!- _snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 14:57 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:07 < rolla> re 15:08 -!- kasc [~kasc@p50909E93.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:16 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p5081341C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:16 < tcr> moin all 15:20 < blindcoder> moin moin 15:22 -!- kasc [~kasc@p50908E30.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:23 -!- Parabull_ [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 15:24 < kasc> re 15:33 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has joined #rocklinux 16:44 < Mike1> Good day all 16:49 < rolla> re mike 16:49 < rolla> where is the iso? 16:49 < Mike1> lol 16:49 < Mike1> i am good thx 16:49 < Mike1> :P 16:50 < Mike1> rolla: my dump ass removed the build dir after it finished, but another build is in progress, so the iso will be ready this afternoon i hope 16:57 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:58 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has joined #rocklinux 17:14 < esden_> hello all 17:15 -!- You're now known as esden 17:18 < Mike1> God bless you MPET 17:24 < esden> bless you Mike1 17:24 < Mike1> :) 17:28 < esden> wee cvs forwarding seems to work now ... god bless you 17:28 < Mike1> :) 17:48 < rolla> esden: do you use german layout keyboard or american? 17:50 < tcr> Hmm.. why? 17:52 < rolla> trying to setup a german layouy 17:52 < esden> rolla: I use dvorak layout 17:52 < rolla> crap 17:52 < esden> links rulez! I have to say that everytime I use it 17:53 < tcr> rolla: I do use it... 17:58 < rolla> tcr do you use gnome2? 17:59 < tcr> Nope 17:59 < rolla> dang 18:00 < tcr> Wouldn't it be best to just tell where you problem actually is rather than swearing here around? ;) 18:00 < rolla> ;) 18:01 < rolla> I am trying to use xmodmap to show german chars and I get nothing in the gnoem terms but in icq they show up fine 18:01 < tcr> What about xterm? 18:01 < rolla> I have even tried just using german layout in X and it does not work either 18:05 < tcr> Does it work in xterm? 18:06 < rolla> fußball 18:06 < rolla> tcr yes 18:06 < rolla> it use to work 18:06 < rolla> beofre I reload my box 18:06 < tcr> rolla: Hmm... But that gnome thingie doesnt? 18:07 < rolla> yes 18:07 < rolla> very odd 18:07 < rolla> I cannot find any reason why either 18:07 < rolla> it just shows a blank space where the char should be 18:07 < rolla> äää 18:07 < rolla> see 18:07 < tcr> Well.. You could try to use *VT100.Translations in the Xdefaults file 18:08 < tcr> I guess the gnome terminal is also based on the vt100 widget 18:08 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1C904.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:08 < rolla> yes 18:09 < tcr> Well, but isn't ther some gnome specific conf tool to manage that? 18:09 < rolla> I ran gnome2 before and it was fine. I am looking at the terminal setupright now 18:09 < rolla> not that I know of 18:09 < rolla> ÓË 18:09 < Mike1> tsts 18:10 < tcr> *VT100.Translations: #ovverride <KeyPress>BackSpace: string(0x7f)\n 18:11 < tcr> that would for instance assign the backspace key the char with the code 127 18:11 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FF84.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Lost terminal") 18:12 < tcr> You should inquire google on that though.. 18:12 < rolla> yeah I am looking there 18:14 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FF84.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:29 < esden> ok ... big mail sent to the dietlibc mailinglist 18:30 * daja77 is back (gone 05:54:28) 18:31 < daja77> hi esden 18:31 < esden> hi daja77 18:31 < daja77> hi everybody :) 18:32 < tcr> moin 18:32 * daja77 adjusts his hate level to normal 18:32 < daja77> hi tcr :) 18:32 < rolla> re daja77 18:33 < Mike1> hi danein77 18:33 < Mike1> :) 18:33 < daja77> Mike1: drunk? 18:33 < tcr> What has been so hateable? 18:33 < Mike1> nah bored 18:33 < Mike1> how are you Daniel? 18:33 < daja77> ok 18:33 < daja77> tcr: RedHat 18:33 < tcr> Yes? 18:34 < daja77> oh yes 18:34 < rolla> daja77: what has redhat done to you ? 18:34 < Mike1> rolla: the same tha drock did to you 18:34 < tcr> I actually wanted to encourage you to add some information to underline that statement ;) 18:34 < daja77> their installer is crap 18:34 < rolla> :) 18:34 < daja77> I had a read error on disc 2 package postfix 18:35 < daja77> any reasonable installer would just go on, but this one crashes and leaves a messed up box behind it 18:35 < rolla> daja77: well they feel that if all packages cannot be install the system shoudl not finish 18:36 < rolla> there is some logic in it 18:36 < daja77> well of course a system without postfix will be doomed *lol* 18:37 < rolla> well trying to keep a list of all packages they need to fail on would be alot of work and sometimes be wrong 18:37 < tcr> daja77: That might be "just" a bug and not intended 18:37 < rolla> better to fail on all 18:37 < rolla> tcr true 18:37 < rolla> but bad media is bad media 18:37 < rolla> like CNN :) 18:37 < tcr> heh 18:37 < daja77> rolla: they did failed to install all 18:37 < tcr> daja77 is doing evilest FUD! 18:37 < daja77> spotted a RedHat fan :P 18:38 < daja77> tcr: this is intended, they show a python trace to explain 18:38 < rolla> daja77: who? 18:39 * daja77 is strangely looking at tcr 18:40 * tcr points to daja77 and hoarsely coughs propagator 18:40 < daja77> the worst thing is that I'm now doing a network install, this machine has a broken nic, that means net install with modem speed 18:41 < daja77> tcr: I liked RedHat two or three years ago 18:42 < tcr> I meant you're spreading falsehoods about other people 18:43 < tcr> I've never used redhat within my short lifetime 18:43 < daja77> omg, I said something wrong about tcr, how could I *g* 18:43 < daja77> ok then tell us about your sin(s)? 18:45 < daja77> only about those connected to computers plz :) 18:46 < tcr> Hmm.. I'm not aware of any really sins other than that I used to be completely stupid ;) 18:46 < daja77> as a baby this is ok 18:47 < tcr> That time is far beyond unfortuntely 18:47 < daja77> have you used w*d*ws? 18:48 < tcr> I'm still using it in a certain angle of view 18:48 < daja77> huh? 18:49 < tcr> Do not let's talk about that ;) 18:50 < blindcoder> no, i never abused widows 18:50 < daja77> abusing it is the most fun at all :) 18:51 * daja77 is silently screaming 18:53 < rolla> hmm time for a new version of gnome 18:53 < daja77> hehe, you are a masochist 18:53 < rolla> still better than KDE 18:53 < daja77> slightly 18:54 < rolla> what do you use? 18:54 < Mike1> rolla: he obviously is into kde 18:54 < Mike1> :) 18:54 * daja77 throws a stinking egg after Mike1 18:54 < Mike1> arrgg 18:55 < daja77> rolla: if I am lazy I use Gnome, otherwise I like blackbox 18:56 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@p5080124A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:01 < daja77> tcr: how are your projects going? 19:02 < tcr> Well I wrote the last quiz for this quartial, so I'm today back to coding since the last week... 19:03 < tcr> Only have to gather some information about a __builtin_setjmp() in gcc 19:04 < daja77> why? 19:04 < tcr> setjmp() is quite ressources intensive 19:04 < daja77> what do you need it for? 19:06 < tcr> My whole lib is based upon setjmp and longjmp, and does actually just easy the use of it 19:06 < daja77> does it link against dietlibc? 19:07 < tcr> No. it should keep somewhat ISOC compatible 19:07 < daja77> but you would gain more performance with it 19:08 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FF84.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:11 -!- jasonmaier [~joerg@pD958E440.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:11 < jasonmaier> he all 19:11 < daja77> hi jasonmaier 19:12 < tcr> Well, daja77.. I doubt dietlibc is any better on that particular things.. But nevertheless my lib should actually be linkable with dietclib 19:12 < daja77> you are talking about the exception lib, right? 19:16 < tcr> yeah 19:17 < tcr> with a rewrite of the burning programm I once wrote with a swede I will start next week 19:17 < daja77> maya or so? 19:18 < tcr> magma 19:18 < daja77> ah yes :) 19:20 < tcr> esden: ping? 19:32 * daja77 is making isos from last week's build 19:34 < esden> tcr: ? 19:38 < tcr> esden: Hmm, I can't find the default key for searching with the last typed string again in pinfo? (IIRC you're the maintainer of it, so you might know it) 19:38 < Mike1> re all 19:38 < Mike1> hi jasonmaier 19:39 < daja77> re Mike1 19:40 < rolla> re 19:41 * tcr brb 19:41 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p5081341C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 19:41 < daja77> does anyone how I can create bootdisks from a CVS build? 19:41 < Mike1> daja77: ./scripts -cfg install 19:42 < Mike1> select boot-disks target 19:42 < Mike1> and build it 19:42 < daja77> Mike1: nope, I just got isos, I need a boot floppy 19:42 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p5081341C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:43 < Mike1> daja77: ah... no sorry :( 19:48 < esden> tcr sorry but I do not know that 19:50 < daja77> I found it *jumping around* 19:53 < owl> re 19:54 < daja77> re hi owl 19:54 < tcr> Why isn't there an option to choose between bzip2 and gzip? Or is that possible in 1.7? 19:56 < Mike1> tcr: have you ever seen rock linux using tar.gz packages in stead of tar.bz2 or .gem? 19:57 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 19:57 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 19:58 < owl> hi blindcoder 19:58 < tcr> Mike1: unfortunately not :-/ 19:58 < owl> tel 19:58 < blindcoder> nothing like a shower after sport :) 19:58 < Mike1> tcr: well simply, we don't use tar.gz's 19:58 < Mike1> tcr: anyways why would you wanna use tar.gz's and not tar.bz2? 19:59 < tcr> Mike1: because gz really beats up bz2 on slow machines 20:00 < Mike1> tcr: use .gem :) 20:00 < tcr> Well, when I'm back at rock hacking I'll implement that myself 20:00 < tcr> .gem uses its own compression algorithm? 20:01 < Mike1> :) 20:11 < daja77> the floppy image is not bootable :( 20:15 * daja77 hates computers that cannot boot from CD 20:23 * tcr is looking at gcc sources... 20:23 < daja77> you are brave 20:24 < owl> some men are like dogs *grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr* 20:24 < daja77> owl: please enlighten us 20:25 < owl> <-- talking to some someone on the telephone 20:25 < daja77> barking, hehe 20:26 < owl> hm.... 20:27 * daja77 imagines a barking owl *lol* 20:27 < owl> grrrr 20:28 < daja77> wuff 20:29 * Mike1 feeling like a dog .... in heat ... 20:29 < Mike1> *g 20:29 < daja77> do not bark at owl :) 20:30 < rolla> it has some weird dirs 20:31 < daja77> ? 20:31 < owl> hi Mike1 20:31 < Mike1> yo owl. 20:32 < daja77> *gnaaaa* 20:32 < daja77> rolla: what did you mean? 20:33 < rolla> nothing 20:33 < daja77> *g* 20:38 < tcr> Hmm... dang! What holy crap! everything looks ok, but __builtin_longjmp() restricts that the value that's passed to __builtin_setjmp _must_ be 1... And I'm currently passing the exception type via that value.. 20:46 < daja77> ping esden 20:58 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 20:58 < demian> hi 20:58 < owl> hi demian 21:00 < demian> hola owl 21:00 < daja77> hi demian 21:00 < demian> ;-) daja77 21:08 -!- daja77_ [~daja77@dialin-145-254-075-107.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:23 < Mike1> owl! 21:23 < owl> Mike1: ? 21:23 < Mike1> *HUG* 21:23 < Mike1> ;-) 21:25 < daja77_> ? 21:25 -!- rxr [~rxr@port-212-202-173-211.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:25 < rxr> he 21:25 < daja77_> hi rxr 21:25 < Mike1> daja77? 21:25 < Mike1> hi Ren 21:25 < owl> hi rxr 21:25 < daja77_> ich war kurz weg, mom 21:26 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-076-096.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: daja77_!~daja77@dialin-145-254-075-107.arcor-ip.net))) 21:26 -!- daja77_ is now known as daja77 21:26 < daja77> *puh* re 21:26 < daja77> brb phone 21:32 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 21:33 < A-Tui> hi 21:33 < Mike1> Aitor :) 21:33 < daja77> hi A-Tui 21:33 < A-Tui> hola a tod*s 21:33 < demian> hi A-Tui 21:34 < Mike1> d3bian! 21:34 < A-Tui> XD 21:34 < demian> Mike1 21:34 < Mike1> wie gehts? 21:34 < demian> danke, gut 21:35 < demian> und dir ? 21:35 < Mike1> gut auch :) 21:35 < demian> kewl 21:35 < A-Tui> Mike1: do you speak german? 21:36 < tcr> he just pretens to do to impress you A-Tui 21:36 < A-Tui> ahhhh XD 21:36 < Mike1> A-Tui: a little bit :) 21:37 < Mike1> A-Tui: i am taking classes 21:37 < A-Tui> it's a pretty language 21:37 < Mike1> tcr: i have no need to impress anyone here or anywhere. 21:37 < demian> i parle espagnol auch 21:37 < daja77> heh, the spanish guys talking german 21:37 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("noch 17 stunden") 21:37 * daja77 watches silently 21:38 < A-Tui> im trying to learn esperanto 21:38 < tcr> Mike1: Yeh, that was more or less a joke ;) 21:38 < Mike1> tcr: sure. 21:38 < tcr> ok then. 21:41 < rxr> hi Mike1 21:45 < daja77> hmm, there is stated in the Rock Linux Guide: The floppy images are in rock-base-<version>/<arch>-floppies 21:45 < daja77> but there is no such dir 21:51 -!- zero0_o^^ [~zer0_o@pop-be-13-2-dialup-268.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 21:56 < tcr> gn8 all 21:56 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p5081341C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 22:04 < Mike1> daja77: ROCK Linux Guide is not for 1.7 22:08 < demian> cya 22:09 < daja77> bye demian 22:09 < A-Tui> adios demian 22:09 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has left #rocklinux () 22:23 < daja77> ping blindcoder 22:29 < esden> interesting ... why I get the error and the guy not ... 22:29 < esden> hmm 22:30 < daja77> hi esden 22:30 < esden> hi daja77 22:30 * -> esden has no beer >_< 22:30 < rxr> hi esden 22:30 < esden> hi rxr 22:30 * Mike1 laughs 22:31 * rxr boots into the dRock-2.0-alpha ISO - see you soon 22:31 -!- rxr [~rxr@port-212-202-173-211.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("leaving") 22:31 * -> esden could brew some erlgrey 22:31 < daja77> I was searching for bootable floppy images for my CVS build, but Mike told your Guide is outdated 22:31 < Mike1> daja77: for 1.7 read Documentation/* 22:31 < Mike1> daja77: specially Documentation/Developers/HACKING-HOWTO 22:32 < esden> daja77: whoose guide ? 22:32 < daja77> yours 22:32 * -> esden is not pjotr /me is piotr 22:32 < daja77> huh? 22:32 < esden> which guide do you mean ? 22:32 < Mike1> daja77: Pjort Prins != Piotr Esden-Tempski 22:33 < Mike1> esden: yeah esden he mean PJ's 22:33 < daja77> ok sorry 22:33 < Mike1> Pjotr even : 22:33 < Mike1> :) 22:33 < esden> good ... people are very often make this mistake ;-) 22:34 * -> esden is not a millionair ... he is ;-) 22:34 < Mike1> esden: why do you think we can you esden ? :) 22:34 < esden> ? 22:35 < Mike1> esden: nevermind 22:35 < esden> explain ... 22:36 < esden> ahh the night air smells soo good ! 22:36 * -> esden loves that smell 22:36 < Mike1> :) 22:37 < daja77> Mike1: you mean should read the FIXME entries :) 22:37 < esden> I think that has something to do with the trees that are outside my window 22:37 < daja77> I even 22:37 < Mike1> daja77: hehe blame Clifford for those entries no me 22:37 < daja77> I do not blame you, you just told me to read it :) 22:38 < Mike1> :) 22:38 < daja77> I remember why I confused the two 22:39 -!- jasonmaier [~joerg@pD958E440.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 22:43 -!- rxr [~rxr@port-212-202-173-211.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:43 < rxr> hi 22:43 < rxr> hm gas_gui core dumps ... 22:43 < rxr> :-( 22:43 < Mike1> wb rxr 22:43 < Mike1> mm.. 22:45 < rxr> I'm just retry with the latest versin - the build included 0.6 22:45 < rxr> actual is 0.7 - so maybe this helps 22:45 < rxr> otherwise I start gdb 22:45 < rxr> but I now also rebuild some other failed packages 22:45 < Mike1> arrgg so no alpha avalable yet 22:46 < rxr> mayber later this night 22:46 < Mike1> k. 22:46 < rxr> when we have no luck (in the case the mine's 0.7 gasgui also core-dumps) tomorrow ... 22:47 * daja77 sings: how many stages must a man walk down, before he can hold up a rock... 22:49 < esden> daja77: would you like to create a release tune for 2.0 ? ;-) 22:49 < daja77> the tune is already there, maybe I should add some text :) 22:50 < esden> yes that would be fine ... send the url where we can get the mp3 ;-) 22:50 < daja77> No, I can't sing 22:51 < daja77> wait, maybe I'll find someone to sing it, for the ogg ;) 22:52 < esden> yes ogg 22:52 * daja77 likes the ogg files very much 22:52 * -> esden is still fixed on mp3 22:53 < daja77> well the songs I download are mp3, but my samples I do with ogg, it's faster and better 23:06 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1C904.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23:08 -!- isabel [~isabel@pD958E440.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:08 < isabel> exit 23:08 -!- isabel [~isabel@pD958E440.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 23:08 < daja77> who was that? 23:09 < Mike1> don't know 23:10 < ringo78_> Isabel Grieshaber 23:10 < Mike1> daja77: jasonmaier's girl 23:12 < daja77> ah ok, haven't read her, that puzzled me a bit :) 23:13 < Mike1> yeah its the first time she shows up 23:14 < daja77> well the build is doin fine, and I'll go to bed now :) 23:15 < ringo78_> n8 daja77 23:15 < daja77> cu ringo78_, haven't noticed you around :) 23:16 < Mike1> daja77: ringo78_ is one of the shy guys here :) 23:16 < Mike1> daja77: n8 :) 23:16 < daja77> n8 and nice rest of the day 23:16 < Mike1> *g 23:16 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-075-107.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 23:23 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1C904.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:24 -!- tfing [~tfing@ASt-Lambert-101-1-6-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 23:32 < esden> urgh ... it seems that the why gcc3 is not compiling in stage2 is my stupidity >_< 23:32 < esden> GRRR 23:32 < Mike1> esden: explain .. 23:33 < esden> I forgot to set some switches ... 23:33 < esden> -D_BSD_SOURCE 23:33 * -> esden was to lazy to look deeper into the problem >_< 23:34 * -> esden hits himself 23:35 < rxr> esden: you are on dietlibc ? 23:36 < Mike1> rxr yeah he is 23:36 < A-Tui> bye bye guys, cu! 23:37 < Mike1> bye A-Tui 23:37 < rxr> esden: have you already some results about size/speed compared to glibc ? 23:37 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("Cerebros destruidos") 23:37 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@ASt-Lambert-101-1-3-217.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:37 < esden> rxr: nope ... I did not care much about it ... 23:38 < Mike1> esden: 0_o why not? 23:38 < esden> but I wrote to the dietlibc malinglist that it would be nice if they make tho dynamic linker usable ... ;-) 23:38 < Mike1> :) 23:38 < rxr> indeed that would be great 23:38 < rxr> has anyone replied ? 23:39 < esden> rxr: have you and clifford considered using in gcc3 instead of "make all" "make bootstrap" that would inticate better if the compiler is usable ... because a compiler that can not compile itself is not usable ... 23:39 < esden> that would make us realize that the compiler has problems earlier ... 23:40 < esden> rxr: noone has answered on this particular issue 23:43 < rxr> :-( I guess the dietlib hacker do not like dynamic linking ... 23:43 < rxr> esden: make bootstrap would double (or so) the time of a gcc compile 23:43 < rxr> a) you will notice with the next package build 23:43 < rxr> b) we "bootstrap" ourself in the next build stage ... ;-) 23:44 < esden> yes that is true ... 23:44 < esden> you are right 23:44 < esden> stupid suggestion ... 23:45 < Mike1> the only stupid sugestion is the one that is not made 23:45 < esden> rxr: I do not wander ... dietlibc is beeing used mostly for very small projects ... and including dynamic linking makes everything slightly bigger 23:45 < esden> and makes _small_ projects bigger 23:46 < rxr> jups 23:46 < esden> that is why they do not care much about dynamic linking ;-) 23:46 < rxr> I gues the diet hacker simply wait for s.o. that implements the dl ... if they do not need/want it ... 23:46 < rxr> ack 23:47 < esden> rxr: would you like to implement it ? ;-) 23:47 < Mike1> *ggg* 23:47 * -> esden is still too stupid for such thing ... 23:50 < Mike1> n8 all 23:51 < ringo78_> n8 Mike1 23:51 * -> esden is missing an option in rock 23:51 < esden> n8 Mike1 23:51 < Mike1> cu :) 23:52 < esden> an option that you ar beeing asked after a package failure if you whish to continue or abort 23:52 < esden> would be very usefull 23:55 < rxr> esden: no 23:55 < rxr> esden: simply select build after package fali 23:55 < rxr> fail 23:56 < rxr> you can restart it then if you like ... --- Log closed Thu Mar 27 00:00:30 2003