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--- Log opened Tue Apr 01 00:00:27 2003 --- Day changed Tue Apr 01 2003 00:04 < tcr> gn8 all 00:04 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813E8F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 00:05 * daja77 feels a bit lonely now 00:12 < ringo78_> daja77: dont .... Thats what I do most of the day ;-) 00:12 < daja77> ringo78_: why? 00:12 < ringo78_> daja77: Unemployed having a hard time concentrating ... 00:14 < daja77> huh, when I was in the Netherlands they told that they need lots of guys for computer things 00:14 < ringo78_> Yehh but I am not to cool no diploms etc ... 00:14 < ringo78_> But reading a nice book : "Neuromancer" 00:15 < daja77> don't know it 00:15 < ringo78_> Nice scifi a must read, Robert T. Morris liked it ;-) 00:16 < daja77> I'll watch out for it next time I'm in a bookstore 00:19 < ringo78_> I'll have a little job this week ... Testing computers and whacking hd's 00:19 < daja77> hehe cool 00:21 < ringo78_> I'm rtying to build a snapshot see where it gets me, last time I had a little to less room. No I have 14gig I hope it does the trick smoothly ;-) 00:22 < daja77> 14G are sufficient, I did it on a 12G partition and had some GB over 00:24 < ringo78_> hmm nice, what should I read if I want to be a little bit more familair with rock ? 00:25 < daja77> https://www.rocklinux.de/sources/Documentation/ 00:25 < daja77> https://www.rocklinux.de/guide.html 00:33 < ringo78_> Feeling like /dev/zero but I am going to manage that. Good I am off now going to regenrate ... C you ! 00:33 < daja77> gn8, cu 00:39 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 00:39 < daja77> hi A-Tui 00:39 < A-Tui> hi 00:39 < A-Tui> hi daja77 00:40 < A-Tui> how is all? 00:40 < daja77> it is well 00:41 < A-Tui> that's great :) 00:41 < daja77> why joining so late? 00:41 < A-Tui> i'm fixing a friend's server 00:41 < daja77> you mean installing rock :) 00:42 < A-Tui> so i'm a little busy 00:42 < A-Tui> yeah 00:42 < A-Tui> im putting a rock there :) 00:42 < daja77> me too, installing a computer for my granny 00:43 < A-Tui> the server was hacked :) 00:43 < daja77> whow, what OS 00:43 < A-Tui> Suse 00:43 < daja77> rotfl 00:43 < A-Tui> but with a very very bad admin 00:44 < A-Tui> it was almost 2 years without upgrading 00:44 < daja77> SuSE --> bad admin 00:44 < A-Tui> yes 00:45 < A-Tui> its very caothic linux system 00:45 < A-Tui> with a very strange init scripts 00:45 < A-Tui> :) 00:45 < daja77> well I have a SuSE server at work, they made me not to change a thing on it, because it's running so well 00:46 < daja77> SuSE is trying to make me hate Linux 00:46 < A-Tui> i had never used a suse linux, but i don't like anything :P 00:46 < daja77> I used it some years ago, until it got on my nerves that much to make me change 00:47 < A-Tui> :) 00:47 < A-Tui> my server now is running on debian 00:47 * daja77 runs away 00:47 < daja77> you've mentioned the d word 00:48 < A-Tui> ops sorry :) 00:48 < A-Tui> but tomorrow i will start with building of ROCK 1.7 ;) 00:48 < daja77> good 00:49 < A-Tui> now i have 1.6 00:49 < daja77> my last 1.7 build finished yesterday, I'm now installing from the isos :) 00:50 < A-Tui> i want to make isos and reinstall ROCK on server 00:50 < daja77> that will be fine :) 00:51 * daja77 just hates debian, don't worry 00:51 < A-Tui> :) 00:51 < A-Tui> don't like it? 00:51 < daja77> nope 00:51 < A-Tui> i started and learned with it 00:52 < A-Tui> but, i wanted get new experiences, and then saw ROCK 00:53 < daja77> I didn't but the main problem with deb are the fanatic users goin on my nerves 00:53 < A-Tui> yes, that's true 00:53 < daja77> :) 00:53 < A-Tui> i had many times discussions about it 00:54 < daja77> me too, and I hate it 00:54 < A-Tui> i have a lot of debian friends 00:54 < A-Tui> and slack friends (who are more moderated) :) 00:54 < daja77> I have some too, some are not trying to convince me, but the others might go to hell instead 00:55 < daja77> hehe, never installed slack but used their nice boot floppies 00:56 < A-Tui> here, in the laptop before the actual ROCK, there was a slack distro 00:56 < daja77> cool 00:57 < A-Tui> i liked slack 00:57 < daja77> hmm maybe I should try it 00:58 < A-Tui> i'm sure enjoy you 00:58 < daja77> we'll see, I'm now looking forward installing rock on my computers 00:59 < daja77> + NetBSD :) 00:59 < A-Tui> w0w 00:59 < A-Tui> :) 00:59 < A-Tui> i had some time ago a freebsd in a machine 00:59 < A-Tui> but i used it very bit 00:59 < daja77> yeah, it is more fun installing it 01:00 < A-Tui> XD 01:00 < A-Tui> yes 01:00 < A-Tui> did you try hurd? 01:01 < daja77> nope 01:01 < daja77> I tried Plan9 01:01 < A-Tui> mmmmm it's sound nice 01:01 < A-Tui> i read about plan9 01:01 < A-Tui> it's a micro kernel arch true? 01:02 < daja77> I think so 01:02 < daja77> I had a nice discussion with one of the Hurd guys about the differences between plan9 and hurd 01:02 < A-Tui> who are Plan9 developers? 01:03 < daja77> Bell Laboratories (the fathers of UNIX) 01:03 < A-Tui> w0w 01:03 < daja77> https://www.cs.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/ 01:03 < A-Tui> it's free soft? 01:03 < daja77> sort of 01:04 < daja77> it is gpl with some additions not recognized by fsf 01:04 < A-Tui> aha 01:05 < A-Tui> the logo is great! 01:05 < A-Tui> :) 01:05 < daja77> this is glenda :) 01:05 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1C0E5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 01:07 < A-Tui> it's pretty :) 01:07 < daja77> https://www.cs.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/glenda.html 01:08 < A-Tui> when i have time perhaps try plan9 on one machine 01:08 < daja77> go for it but be careful if your hardware is supported 01:09 < A-Tui> i don't put it on the laptop, i will use a more simple machine 01:10 < daja77> there are laptops which work with plan9, but you have to be careful on other machines as well 01:10 < A-Tui> lucent belongs to Bell Labs? 01:10 < daja77> Bell Labs belong to Lucent 01:11 < daja77> plan9 runs in graphic mode only so the graphics adaptor must be supported by plan9 01:12 < A-Tui> i have no idea 01:13 < daja77> https://www.cs.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/supported_pc_hardware/index.html 01:14 < A-Tui> sis chipsets are not supported :( 01:15 < daja77> hehe, that's what I meant about being careful, but the hardware support has gained since I tried it last time 01:16 < A-Tui> well, i think that i have a machine that could work 01:17 < A-Tui> daja77: see you later, work call me :) 01:17 < daja77> A-Tui: cu 02:04 < esden> re hi all 02:04 < daja77> re esden :) 02:04 < esden> does anyone know a easy internet phone solution ? 02:04 < daja77> audio or video 02:05 < esden> audio would suffice for the beginning ;-) 02:06 < daja77> you mean software not a provider right? 02:06 < esden> it can also be a win$ solution ... or even better a cross platform 02:09 < daja77> for the moment you can be use gnomemeeting (but they are closing their source to support tcpa *aaaargh*) 02:09 < esden> yes I mean software ... I know that there is something ... but do not know where to search ... /me is too lazy to search the net ... 02:09 < esden> WHAT ??? 02:10 < esden> you are kidding me ! 02:10 < daja77> https://www.gnomemeeting.org read it for yourself 02:10 < esden> *click* 02:13 < esden> "We have decided to close the source code of GnomeMeeting because we think it is a good way to produce more secure software." they are kidding ... they lost their minds ... 02:13 * -> esden is disgusted to the extreme !!!! 02:13 * -> esden still can not belive that... 02:13 < daja77> oh I forgot it's April 1st 02:14 < esden> urgh ... *sigh* 02:14 < esden> they got me 02:14 < esden> they really got me ! 02:14 < daja77> me too 02:14 < esden> *lough* 02:14 < esden> cool 02:15 < daja77> hehe, yeah it's really cool 02:16 < owl> re 02:16 < daja77> re owl 02:16 < A-Tui> hi esden hi owl 02:16 < daja77> esden: should we point her to that link 02:17 < A-Tui> well guys, i tired so i go to sleep 02:17 < A-Tui> good nights all!! 02:17 < A-Tui> buenas noches 02:17 < daja77> gn8 A-Tui, cu 02:17 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 02:17 < esden> daja77: yes ! 02:18 < daja77> owl: have a look at the latest press release from gnomemeeting at https://www.gnomemeeting.org 02:18 * -> esden is waiting for reports on slashdot ;-) 02:19 * tfing too 02:19 < owl> have no bandwith for my browser.... 02:19 < daja77> owl: you are taking away our fun 02:20 < owl> daja77: yeah. compain at telekomiker and force them to install t-dsl here 02:20 < daja77> owl: don't use Telekom 02:21 < owl> daja77: here is no chance to get *DSL (not QDS, not, T-DSL, notFSCK-DSL) 02:21 < daja77> well, then wait for the displaying of that page, it is worth a try 02:21 < owl> noooooooo# 02:22 < esden> owl: is sucking like a ... erm ... hoover ;-) 02:22 < daja77> stop complaining I'm an isdn user as well, I know what it can do :) 02:23 < owl> daja77: dont "BLAH" around 02:23 < daja77> owl: I don't 02:23 < owl> i'm updating my 1.7-sources... so - i have no bandwith for brosers or stuff! 02:24 < owl> browsers even 02:24 < daja77> you have, I know it, done it myself while downloaded sources 02:24 < daja77> esden: maybe we should announce it on /. 02:24 < esden> daja77: but what ... 02:24 < esden> we need something very good 02:24 < owl> daja77: *grrrrrrrr* 02:25 < esden> tcpa support in rocklinux ? 02:25 < daja77> why not, claim that we include the ibm patches 02:25 < owl> rocklinux officially supported/sponsored or so by microsoft... 02:26 < daja77> rockmond 02:26 < esden> yea 02:26 < esden> cool 02:26 < daja77> owl: :P 02:27 < daja77> of course we must have such an announcement on the rock hp 02:27 < daja77> on the other hand it is lame to clone the jokes of other people 02:28 < esden> daja77: I write to jocelin 02:28 < daja77> :) 02:28 < esden> she will announce that ... 02:28 < esden> and clifford of course 02:28 < daja77> sounds great 02:29 < esden> I need to write to the mailinglist with the patches ... *sigh* 02:29 < esden> how can I produce fake patches ... 02:30 < daja77> modify README, create a patch, and create a Patch which turns everything back 02:30 < esden> tcpa target ... 02:30 < esden> hmm 02:30 < daja77> hehe, yeah 02:32 < esden> ok ... first update my rock tree 02:33 < daja77> damn I forgot my /. account 02:33 < esden> I think that I do not need to include the patches ... they are closed source ;-) 02:33 < daja77> lol 02:33 < esden> daja77: then create new one 02:34 < daja77> yes maybe, I'll dig my mails if find it there 02:34 < esden> I will need an hour or so to create the patch 02:35 < esden> I will submit to symlink when the mail is on the mailinglist 02:36 < daja77> ok 02:39 < esden> hmm ... it seems that cliff is working on the cvs tree ... 02:56 < esden> daja77: have you seen the comment in Documentation/Developers/CHANGELOG recently ? 02:56 < daja77> eh no 02:57 * daja77 is currently submitting the gnomemeeting story to /. 02:57 < esden> hehe ;-) 02:58 < esden> from Documentation/Developers/CHANGELOG-CLIFFORD : "- New nice init scripts are default now" <- that sounds not really like clifford ... 02:58 < daja77> *g* 03:05 < daja77> submission is out 03:05 < esden> good 03:05 < esden> tcpa target on the way 03:05 < esden> or do you have a better name ? 03:06 -!- kasc_ [~kasc@p5090AE03.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:07 < daja77> esden: do you know why yesterday's log is not available 03:08 < daja77> tcpa is the best name for it, maybe enhanced_security would be good but not really 03:08 < daja77> palladium perhaps 03:08 < esden> but that is the windows system ... not the overall "security" system 03:09 < daja77> hehe, sure 03:09 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 03:09 < demian> hi guys 03:09 < esden> hi demian 03:09 < demian> hallo esden 03:10 * demian just reading cliff resume 03:10 < owl> hi demian 03:10 < demian> Miss owl ! 03:10 < daja77> hi demain, join us having fun on April 1st 03:10 < demian> why ? 03:10 < demian> what would be cool in april 1st ? 03:10 < esden> demian: resume ? 03:10 < demian> :) 03:11 < demian> esden: curriculum vitae 03:11 < esden> ahh 03:11 < daja77> demian: go for https://www.gnomemeeting.org 03:11 < demian> surprising 03:11 * demian remembers he is from costa rica, just some few kilometers far from there 03:11 < esden> hmm ... that should be enough 03:12 < esden> does anyone have a 1.7 binary cd ? 03:12 < daja77> me 03:13 < esden> daja77: put it somewher where people can reach it ... with the "appropriate" name ;-) 03:13 < demian> hehe 03:13 < demian> what is the last rock 1.7 tree release ? 03:13 < daja77> have not that much space on the net 03:13 < demian> for the cd 03:13 < demian> iso 03:14 < esden> daja77: hmm ... 03:14 < esden> ok ... then I will announce that the cd will be avalable soon 03:14 < daja77> :) 03:17 < esden> ok ... patch ready 03:17 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090BE09.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:17 < daja77> cool 03:18 < esden> for review: https://www.esden.net/rocklinux/tcpa.patch 03:18 < esden> any comments ? 03:19 < esden> I need a help file ... 03:19 < daja77> hmm 03:20 < demian> nice, im playing with a SMP now ! 03:22 < demian> Linux VLSI-11 2.4.18-3smp #1 SMP Thu Apr 18 07:27:31 EDT 2002 i686 unknown 03:22 < demian> but runnig a redhat :( 03:22 < daja77> the are worse distros than that 03:23 < esden> daja77: ok new version of the patch online 03:24 < esden> comments ? 03:24 < daja77> typo, wonder instead of wander 03:24 < esden> k 03:25 < esden> corrected 03:26 < esden> ok ... so I send it to the mailinglist ... 03:26 < daja77> wait 03:27 < daja77> you could add a sentence after the first one 03:27 < daja77> tcpa target turns your computer into a trusted platform 03:28 < daja77> something like that, I mean a marketing phrase, you know 03:30 < daja77> esden: what do you think 03:34 < esden> yes that is good 03:34 < esden> I write the email to the mailinglist at the moment... 03:35 < daja77> :) 03:35 < esden> good coffee brewing ;-) 03:35 < owl> kjlojlkä# 03:36 < daja77> ?? 03:36 < owl> sorry... my pillowx was typing 03:36 < daja77> *rofl* 03:38 < esden> rofl 03:39 < esden> do not put so many bacteria in to your pillow owl so that it begins to live ... 03:39 < owl> *g* 03:40 < esden> daja77: patch updated 03:41 < esden> daja77: read also https://www.esden.net/rocklinux/tcpa.mail <- what do you think can I send it like that ? 03:41 < daja77> esden: it should be into a trusted one 03:42 < esden> what have I written ? ... o_O 03:42 < daja77> to 03:42 < esden> ahh ok 03:43 * -> esden english needs improovement ... /me is also pretty tired by now >_< 03:43 < esden> but corrected 03:43 < daja77> me too 03:43 * daja77 reads esden's mail 03:43 < esden> there are also many faults 03:44 < daja77> dunno, mom 03:44 < daja77> the mail is ok 03:44 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Der Sinn des Lebens ist die Suche nach eben jenem.") 03:44 < daja77> so far I can see this now 03:45 < esden> good ... so I send it away 03:45 < daja77> yeah, do it 03:45 < esden> ahh ... another thing 03:45 < esden> I have to ask cliff/jocelin to announce that on our homepage 03:46 < daja77> yes that 03:47 < daja77> it seems that there is someone looking on pending submissions on /. now, there is hope 03:49 < esden> mail sent 03:49 < daja77> cool 03:50 < daja77> clifford will kill you if he applies it to CVS 03:50 < demian> hehe 03:50 < esden> yes he will 03:50 < esden> on aprill it is foregivable 03:51 < daja77> the best part is to remove things from CVS, hehe 03:51 < esden> ? 03:51 * -> esden confused 03:52 < demian> have someone worked with serial port in C or java ? 03:52 < daja77> removing dirs from CVS is painful 03:52 < esden> yes right ;-) 03:52 * -> esden is looking forward to the responses ;-) 03:52 < daja77> *g* 03:53 < daja77> hehe, recvd your mail 03:53 * -> esden too ;-) 03:54 < esden> daja77: clifford should answer as he uses to: "applied" with no further comment ;-) 03:54 < daja77> *lol* 03:57 -!- jasonmaier [~joerg@p508437BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:57 -!- jasonmaier [~joerg@pD958E8D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:58 < esden> daja77: will you submit to slashdot? 03:58 < daja77> about your mail 03:59 < daja77> I fear I'm a too tired for this now 04:00 < esden> hmm ... ok 04:01 < esden> hmm ... the mail is not yet in the web archive ... 04:01 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has quit ("leaving") 04:02 < daja77> that takes some hours sometimes 04:02 < esden> argh 04:02 < esden> I can not submit to symlink or /. till it is there ... 04:03 < daja77> yes 04:03 < daja77> I'll go to bed now, have fun 04:04 < esden> good night daja77 04:04 -!- daja77 [~daja77@212.144.72.215] has quit ("Client Exiting") 04:04 * -> esden will have fun beeing killed by some people 04:05 < owl> in suicidial mood, esden #? 04:05 < esden> yes ;-) 04:06 < owl> *fg* 04:06 * owl kills esden with a sword 04:06 < owl> do you feel better, now? ;) 04:06 < esden> much better! 04:07 -!- jasonmaier [~joerg@pD958E8D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04:07 < owl> welll 04:17 -!- jasonmaier [~joerg@pD958E5AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:35 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090BB3C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:46 -!- kasc_ [~kasc@p5090AE03.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:59 -!- hussein [~hussein@gandalf.cs.usm.my] has joined #rocklinux 05:01 -!- tibit_ [~tibit@p508AB010.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:03 -!- hussein [~hussein@gandalf.cs.usm.my] has quit ("Client exiting") 05:16 -!- tibit [~tibit@p508A9AAB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:23 < esden> wooow that looks amazing: https://www.megatokyo.com/strips/0391.jpg 05:24 < esden> I can not wait to see the full image 05:31 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 05:31 < demian> re 05:31 < demian> so.. none have played with serial port to send and receive data ? 05:31 < esden> nope 05:32 < esden> demian: see this: https://www.megatokyo.com/strips/0391.jpg 05:32 < esden> I am really interested how the full poster will look like 05:34 < demian> i need to implement a virtual RISC machine which will be a server for scoreboarding through serial port, from which clients will receive the out of order answer to execute an instrucion 05:34 < demian> fucking teacher and fucking homework :( 05:34 < demian> nice pic esden ! 05:34 < esden> virtual RISC machine? 05:34 < esden> an emulator? 05:34 < demian> yes 05:34 < demian> yes 05:34 < esden> what kind of RISC? 05:35 < demian> i choose it, possibly MIPS, since once i coded in MIPS asm some time ago . 05:36 < esden> where do you get a MIPS emulator? (excuse my stupid question) 05:37 < demian> spim 05:37 < esden> url? 05:37 < demian> mom 05:37 < demian> # [V] 6.4 05:37 < demian> # [S] 3 4 05:37 < demian> # [D] spim.tar.gz https://www.cs.wisc.edu/~larus/SPIM/ 05:38 < esden> ohh 05:38 < demian> but now i have to code mine :( 05:38 < demian> and more complicated :( 05:39 < esden> hmm ... I see 05:39 < demian> with scoreboarding and a complete pipelining system :( 05:39 < esden> cool ... that is fun I bet 05:39 < esden> in which language will you implement it 05:39 < demian> a server of pipelining and a client which will execute instructions according with what the server says 05:40 < demian> esden: i need first to know how to communicate with serial, parallel or USB port (i choose one) 05:40 < demian> and i should do a GUI to see the process tat the server is doing 05:40 < esden> under linux you simply send to the device ... but I do not think that is what you want to know 05:40 < demian> so... the only thing where i know how to code GUIs is Java 05:40 < demian> hehe 05:40 < demian> sure, cat > /dev/tts.. 05:41 < esden> on intel it is a interrupt 05:41 < demian> it must be generic 05:41 < demian> umm.. yeah ? 05:41 < esden> and a gate on which you write 05:41 < demian> i see 05:41 < esden> if I remember correctly 05:42 < demian> umm 05:42 < demian> how can i call an int in C ? 05:42 < demian> in asm it is easy. but i dunno how to do it in C 05:43 < esden> that outranges my knowledge 05:43 < esden> I also only know how to do it in asm 05:43 < demian> but i bet there should be a library to play with things like those in C 05:44 < demian> same for java 05:44 < esden> no I think that in C it is in the language directly 05:46 < demian> dunno../me newbie 05:58 < esden> woot: https://www.merecatcreations.com/ 05:58 < esden> go to desktops 05:58 < esden> really neat stuff 06:04 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 06:04 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 06:28 -!- demian_ [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 06:28 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 06:28 -!- demian_ is now known as demian 06:36 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has quit ("leaving") 07:01 -!- tfing [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 07:02 -!- tfing [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has joined #rocklinux 07:02 -!- rxr [~rxr@port-212-202-173-117.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:03 < rxr> esden: nice aprils fool ;-) 07:04 < blindcoder> rxr: indeed :) 07:05 < blindcoder> rxr: I must admit, I fell for it :) 07:09 < blindcoder> br 07:09 < blindcoder> b 07:09 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FB16.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 07:14 -!- blindcoder [crash@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:16 < kasc> moin 07:17 < kasc> reading mails so early a day isnt good... ;) 07:18 < rxr> cu all 07:18 -!- rxr [~rxr@port-212-202-173-117.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("leaving") 07:18 < blindcoder> kasc: indeed :) 07:18 < blindcoder> brb 07:19 -!- blindcoder [crash@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("leaving") 07:19 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FB16.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:19 < blindcoder> kasc: espocially if you forgot which day is today >_< 07:19 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy_fool 07:26 < kasc> hehe 07:34 < esden> good morning everyone 07:35 < esden> hmm ... it seems that you guys are half asleep ;-) 07:36 < esden> good rxr applied my patch ;-) 07:37 < esden> blindy_fool: something for you : https://lime.aniverse.com:3000/ 07:38 < esden> very good anime music station if anyone is interested 07:38 < kasc> morning esden 07:40 < esden> morning kasc 07:40 < esden> how are you today ... how is your level of caffein doing today? 07:40 < kasc> am i the first who fell in to you april fool? 07:40 < kasc> too low. I'm still in batch mode ;) 07:41 < esden> no blincoder also fell in my afull ;-) 07:41 -!- kasc is now known as kasc_fool 07:41 < kasc_fool> hehe 07:43 < esden> kasc_fool: see this : https://www.gnomemeeting.org 07:43 < blindy_fool> esden: I hate you 07:44 < esden> blindy_fool: :D I love you too ;-) 07:44 < esden> chakka chakka 07:44 < blindy_fool> esden: good :) 07:44 < blindy_fool> esden: you know, today was the first day in 2 weeks that I chose to read mails BEFORE I have a coffee... 07:45 * blindy_fool having breakfast 07:45 < esden> that was a mistake ... I would give a lot to see your face when you read my mail 07:45 < blindy_fool> esden: hehe :) 07:45 < esden> blindy_fool: what were your first words? 07:45 < blindy_fool> esden: first: sweet. second: damn, what's with my harddisk? No space left on device an 24 GB free? 07:46 < blindy_fool> then I did a fsck on my disk, had a coffee and looked at the clack... 07:46 < blindy_fool> clock, actually 07:46 < blindy_fool> 01.04.2003.... *slurp* ... esden... I hate you... 07:46 < esden> hehe 07:46 < blindy_fool> that was the chain of events 07:47 < esden> I love this day already 07:47 < blindy_fool> esden: serious question: is there ANY way to look through the mailing list archives on rocklinux.org? 07:47 < esden> owl and daja inpired me ;-) 07:47 < blindy_fool> I love it, too sinco I will go home around 13:00 today :) 07:48 < esden> https://www.rocklinux.org/maling-list/rock-linux/2003-4/0.html 07:49 < blindy_fool> esden: My thought was more along the lines of https://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/rocklinux/archive/ 07:49 < esden> rene is also playing the game with me ;-) he "applied" the patch ;-) 07:49 < blindy_fool> yes :) 07:50 < esden> I am very interested what people will answer 07:51 < esden> clifford answered ;-) 07:51 < esden> I made a mistake 07:52 < blindy_fool> tsktsktsk 07:53 < esden> lack of caffeine 07:56 < esden> clifford really has an eye for bugs ... 07:56 < esden> *sigh* 07:57 < esden> from praenti: Hi, ist das jetzt ein April-Scherz oder ist IBM wirklich so spendabel (IMHO ich nicht glaube)? Ach ja und wer ist dann alles drauf reingefallen ;-) Gruss, Michael 07:57 < esden> lol 07:58 < esden> blindy_fool: still here? a link for you: https://lime.aniverse.com:3000/ 07:59 < esden> and one more https://www.merekatcreations.com 07:59 < esden> really good site 08:05 < blindy_fool> esden: yes, I already knew both, but aniverse-radio isn't my cup of tea 08:06 < blindy_fool> esden: btw: why the fuck are you awake at this time of the day? 08:08 < esden> because I slept yesterday in the afternoon and woke up at 21:30 or so ... 08:08 < esden> and now I am still awake 08:09 < esden> I had to create the patch send it and watch the reaction ... so I could not go to bed ;-) 08:09 < blindy_fool> tststs 08:10 < esden> that is owl's expression ... you know that ... 08:10 < blindy_fool> so what? 08:11 < kasc_fool> umm... what about a taliban release? not sure what to put into that, tho... 08:13 < blindy_fool> kasc_fool: ROCK LInux Al-Qaida Edition: with (dammit... whatshisname?) Desktop Themes, Extra Flight-Simulation Games and Do-it-yourself-C4-Explosives! 08:13 < blindy_fool> dammit... now this Channel is monitored by the DOHS 08:14 < kasc_fool> kewl :) 08:14 < kasc_fool> greets to your guys from DOHS then :) 08:14 < esden> blindy_fool: did you know this forum? : forums.sijun.com 08:15 (Users #rocklinux) 08:15 [ aszlig ] [ fake ] [ kasc_fool] [ Parabull_] [ ruddur] [ tfing ] 08:15 [ blindy_fool] [ huebi ] [ Lorini_ ] [ ringo78_ ] [ SMP ] [ tibit_] 08:15 [ esden ] [ jasonmaier] [ owl ] [ rolla ] [ snyke ] 08:15 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 17 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 08:15 < esden> blindy_fool: nice! 08:16 < esden> DOHS? 08:16 < esden> it seems that I need another cupple of hours of sleep ... *sigh* 08:16 < esden> I hate that 08:17 < blindy_fool> Deportment of Homeland Security 08:17 < esden> ohh ... so I also greet also over to DOHS 08:18 * -> esden waves 08:20 < esden> wooow ... that hurts: https://div.dyndns.org/EK/selfs.jpg 08:24 < blindy_fool> https://bash.org/?13077 <--- WEE 08:26 < kasc_fool> lol 08:27 < esden> lol 08:50 < esden> https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/sun-31.03.03-000/ <- finally they provide it! 08:50 < blindy_fool> brb 08:53 < blindy_fool> re 08:53 < blindy_fool> esden: hehe :) 08:59 < kasc_fool> kewl :) 09:02 < blindy_fool> ah, still 4 hours to go 09:12 < esden> blindy_fool: DO NOT COMPLAIN! 09:22 < esden> wee answer from clifford! YESS 09:23 < esden> ROFL 09:23 < esden> very good 09:25 < kasc_fool> lol 09:26 < kasc_fool> wouldnt be that bad after all... then i should be able to get a larger harddisk to build a rock without tailoring a pksel first ;) 09:30 < blindy_fool> esden: I don't complain 09:32 < blindy_fool> esden: there's a fine difference between complaining and whining :D 09:33 < esden> so do not whine ... 09:33 < blindy_fool> :( 09:33 * blindy_fool now compiling xmms @work 09:36 < esden> guys ... I have another image for you ... if you like, it is called the "Firy queen": https://www.optidigit.com/stevens/fairyqueen4.jpg and other version: https://www.optidigit.com/stevens/fairyqueen3.jpg 09:37 < blindy_fool> esden found a new hobby 09:37 < esden> hmm nice: RFC 3514 - New bit defined for IPv4 Headers 09:37 < blindy_fool> it's about time :) 09:38 * -> esden loves art ... and I see that digital art is very impresive now 09:39 < esden> and Gentoo incorporates the RPM format in their distribution 09:39 < esden> that is what they really deserve! 09:41 < blindy_fool> muhahaha 09:51 < esden> hmm ... go to www.cpan.org ... 09:51 < esden> *cough* 09:58 < blindy_fool> sweet 09:58 < esden> yes ;-) 09:58 < blindy_fool> last year it was the Comprehensive Java Archive Network 10:04 < kasc_fool> hehe 10:05 < blindy_fool> not to forget freshmeats now infamous Xbox-Layout :D 10:14 < esden> that was good yes 10:21 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813C82.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:21 < tcr> moin all 10:23 < esden> morning tcr 10:24 < tcr> "We need to fill 10 new Editor positions. These will be our usual fulltime positions with starting salaries of $65,000/year. In addition to the standard health benefits, basic laptop computers and Internet access will be provided." 10:25 < tcr> freshmeat searches for more employees 10:25 < blindy_fool> WEE! INTERNET ACCESS!! :) 10:26 < tcr> Hrrm.. they select candidats through their irc channel 10:26 < tcr> heh, that's geeky, aint it? ;) 10:30 < esden> yups 10:31 < blindy_fool> but the best is still ThinkGeek :D 10:31 < tcr> btw. esden: in target/tcpa/tcpa.txt you wrote 'a NDA' but as NDA is spoken EnDihAey it must be an NDA ;) 10:32 < blindy_fool> tcr: don't hassle esden with grammar. he already has prbolems with speling :) 10:32 * tfing laughs at the tcpa thread 10:33 < tfing> yop guyz 10:33 < tcr> blindy_fool: This makes him just a lot more american ;)) 10:33 < blindy_fool> muiahahaha 10:35 < esden> hi tfing 10:35 < esden> tcr: I know that my english is bad >_< 10:36 < tcr> Hmm well you have said that, not me ;) 10:38 < esden> tcr: ye ye 10:38 < esden> but thanks for correcting 10:39 < esden> I will try to improove myself ... 10:39 < blindy_fool> 2:20 to go... 10:39 < blindy_fool> including 30-45 minutes lunch break 10:41 < tfing> blindy_fool: thx for xjdic package btw, i won't have to go on the web to look for a japanese dictionary anymore ;) 10:41 < tcr> what's so funny on the thread btw? 8) 10:43 * tcr is waiting for daja... 10:47 < blindy_fool> tfing: :) yes, I know how you feel 10:50 < blindy_fool> tfing: I could have also given you a good site for japanese->eng[rl]ish translation, but unfortunately by bookmarks-file vanished due to stupid harddisk >_< 10:54 < blindy_fool> https://www.engrish.com/computer/image/spermmouse.jpg <-- I WANT THAT MOUSE :D 10:55 < tfing> blindy_fool: do u know how to make mutt displays kanjis ? 10:55 < blindy_fool> tfing: hmm... using kterm might work 10:55 < tfing> kterm only is not sufficient 10:56 < tfing> i got something encoded in iso-2022-jp 10:56 < blindy_fool> tfing: hmm.. no, then I don't know, sorry 10:56 < tfing> ok, thx anyway 10:56 < blindy_fool> hmm.. I sometimes get these mails, too 10:56 < blindy_fool> usually they contain links to (insert randomm sex phrase here).co.jp 10:58 < tfing> it was a greeting card from yahoo.co.jp 11:14 < tibit_> https://www.theorie.physik.uni-goettingen.de/pipermail/transcode-users/2003-April/006961.html 11:16 < tibit_> oops, sorry 11:19 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:22 < blindy_fool> ah, nothing like being superior to others :D 11:30 < tcr> hrm? 11:35 < blindy_fool> ah, our proxy buffers sites before it sends them to the client 11:35 < blindy_fool> but with transconnect it works like a charm (Streaming radio) 11:40 < blindy_fool> ah, one more hour to go 11:56 < blindy_fool> now it's lunch first 11:57 < tcr> mahlzeit 12:27 < blindy_fool> back 12:40 -!- blindy_f1ol [blindcoder@pD9E4F4BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:40 -!- blindy_f1ol is now known as blindcoder 12:55 -!- blindy_fool [blindcoder@pD958FB16.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:07 < kasc_fool> did anyone of you manage to build pwlib and openh323? 13:33 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@p50801BFB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:33 < tfing> kasc_fool: yep 13:34 < kasc_fool> tfing: what version? 13:36 < tfing> openh323 1.10.5 and pwlib 1.4.5 it seems 13:36 < kasc_fool> on a rock linux? 13:37 < tfing> yep 13:37 < tfing> i use gnomemeeting ;) 13:37 < kasc_fool> then maybe you can help me :) 13:37 < kasc_fool> pwlib wont build here 13:37 < tfing> what did u do ? 13:39 < kasc_fool> i got the pwlib from cvs, set the PWLIBDIR and put the dir/lib into my ld.so.conf as described in the documentation 13:39 < kasc_fool> but in make both i get lots of errors 13:40 < tfing> i did not do a make both 13:40 < kasc_fool> just make? 13:40 < tfing> no 13:40 < tfing> make something else 13:41 < tfing> i don't remember preciseley 13:41 < tfing> make shared maybe 13:41 < tfing> look at the makefile 13:41 < tfing> see which targets are available 13:43 < kasc_fool> optshared, debugshared and bothshared 13:44 < kasc_fool> one of them? 13:48 < tfing> type make help to get all the targets 13:48 < tfing> i think i did make opt 13:50 < kasc_fool> lets see what happens :) 13:50 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F4BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:09 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813C82.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 14:12 < kasc_fool> still the same error 14:13 < kasc_fool> it complains about an invalid conversion from `void*' to `XML_ParserStruct*' 14:28 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-077-213.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:28 < daja77> moin 14:36 < kasc_fool> moin daja77 14:36 < daja77> hi kasc_fool, why the fool today? 14:37 < kasc_fool> didnt read my mail, yet? 14:37 < daja77> ehm no, mom 14:38 < daja77> whow, 24 new messages 14:41 -!- Lorini_ is now known as Lorini 14:42 < daja77> dunno, which mail you are referring to 14:42 < daja77> you mean cos you didn't got that joke 14:44 < kasc_fool> yep 14:44 < daja77> poor kasc_fool 14:44 < kasc_fool> at least not until my mail was outta my mailq 14:44 < daja77> hehe 14:45 < daja77> I have to admit that I was involved in this matter, so blame me if you like 14:46 < kasc_fool> i know :) 14:46 < daja77> damn 14:46 < kasc_fool> hehe 14:46 < daja77> who has talked?? 14:47 < kasc_fool> *g* 14:48 < kasc_fool> brb 14:52 * daja77 is away: having a walk and work :) 15:07 < kasc_fool> re 15:53 < rolla> re 16:05 * daja77 is back (gone 01:13:00) 16:05 < daja77> re 16:08 < daja77> damn those gentoo guys beat out my submission with their jokae 16:08 < rolla> bah 16:08 * rolla hates april 1st 16:08 < daja77> why? 16:09 < rolla> it is dumb these jokes 16:09 < rolla> can never get any work done cause noone wants to help 16:09 < rolla> alleays with the jokes 16:09 < daja77> oh come on, have you been fooled that bad 16:11 < daja77> *rofl* New RFC Adds "Evil Bit" 16:12 < rolla> nope never been fool just annoyed by mind less morons that have nothing better to do with their lives 16:12 < daja77> it is just one day out of 365, so never mind 16:13 < rolla> if they put this much energy into good use image what can happen instead they act like 5 year olds. 16:14 < daja77> rolla: what's the matter with you? 16:14 < rolla> nothing 16:14 < rolla> just marveling at how dumb people can be 16:15 < daja77> you have known that before 16:15 < rolla> yes but today show just how dumb people can be 16:15 < daja77> there are some really good jokes out 16:16 < rolla> not really 16:16 < daja77> esden and me were really fooled by one this night 16:17 < rolla> daja77: only belive half of what you read and half of what you hear 16:17 -!- kasc_fool is now known as kasc 16:17 < rolla> but know which half is the hard part 16:17 < daja77> you turn out as philosopher today 16:18 < rolla> daja77: I am allways like this 16:18 < daja77> this is good 16:19 < daja77> but anyway I don't mind a good joke 16:22 < daja77> rolla: btw, I added a new hd to my grandma's pc so that we can switch between GNOME and KDE, to see which is better :) 16:25 < rolla> :) 16:25 * rolla is using garnome right now 16:25 < daja77> I used it once, but it was not that much fun, I expected 16:26 < rolla> it makes build gnome so much eaier 16:26 < daja77> yes, but I had still to make some patches 16:26 < rolla> ah 16:27 < rolla> nod 16:27 < daja77> :) 16:27 < rolla> but if it saves me time getting gnome up I am happy 16:27 < daja77> of course you'll be :) 16:27 * rolla goes back to learning SAP 16:27 < daja77> WHAT? 16:28 < rolla> daja77: you know what SAP is right? 16:28 < daja77> omg, yes I feel with you 16:28 < rolla> daja77: that phrase would be. "I feel for you" 16:28 < esden> good morning ;-) 16:28 < rolla> re esden 16:29 < daja77> I feel for you, then 16:29 < daja77> hi esden, congrats 16:29 < rolla> daja77: what does zundfolge mean? 16:29 < daja77> rolla: don't know the word 16:29 < esden> huhu daja77 16:30 < esden> re rolla 16:30 < rolla> daja77: it is german 16:30 < rolla> it might be zuendfolge 16:30 < daja77> there is no german word zundfolge 16:30 < daja77> did you find that in SAP docs 16:30 < rolla> might be abbr. 16:31 < rolla> daja77: nope on a car part 16:31 < rolla> daja77: https://dave.maisenhelder.net/bmw/Pictures/318i/Paint/MVC-279F.JPG 16:32 < daja77> could be spark order 16:33 < rolla> ? 16:33 < daja77> or ignition order 16:33 < rolla> ah 16:33 < rolla> is it an abbervation? 16:34 < daja77> no but it seems to be a widdely unknown technical term 16:34 < rolla> unkown? 16:34 < daja77> I've never heard of it 16:35 -!- dadark [dadark@p5082E9B0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:35 < rolla> :) 16:36 -!- Parabull_ [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:36 < dadark> hey, a little question.. how can i make a bootdisk? :D i mean.. i can't find a manual about the installation??? 16:37 < daja77> esden: there seems to be a bug in https://www.rocklinux.de/irc.html the logs from yesterday and the day before are not linked 16:37 < rolla> daja77: babelfish knows the word :) 16:37 < daja77> cool 16:37 < rolla> firing order 16:37 -!- dadark [dadark@p5082E9B0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #rocklinux ("Client exiting") 16:38 < daja77> which is not much different from my proposal 16:38 < rolla> nope 16:38 < rolla> daja77: good call 16:38 < daja77> ?? 16:38 < rolla> daja77: it means good answer or you are right 16:39 < daja77> ah thx 16:39 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has joined #rocklinux 16:51 < daja77> hmm, new enlightment is out 17:19 < owl> hi 17:20 < daja77> hi owl, awake now? *g* 17:20 < owl> jup. 17:20 < daja77> :) 17:28 < rolla> re owl 17:28 < owl> hi rolla 17:40 < esden> daja77: ups ... strange 17:41 < daja77> esden: it seems that there is no additional row left in that table 17:45 < owl> hi esden 17:54 < ringo78_> hi all 17:55 < daja77> hi ringo78_ 17:55 < owl> moin ringo78_ 17:55 < ringo78_> Just fixed 4 pc's (hardware). 25 to go ... Nice job 17:56 < owl> have fun, ringo78_ 17:56 < daja77> how many whacked hds 17:56 < ringo78_> thanks ... Have to make everything working. No whacked hd's just loads of them 'missing'. 17:57 < owl> great. sounds really like a "nice" job 17:57 < daja77> ringo78_: explain missing 17:58 < owl> if something is not existent... 17:58 < ringo78_> Yehh its really more moving system cases and searching components. 17:58 < daja77> owl: thx, that was not my question 17:59 < owl> daja77: :P it was the explanation of the famous word "missing" - so, don't complain 17:59 < ringo78_> missing .. stolen I suppose it all stands in a room which is easy top enter , just trying to make as much working systems as posibel. 17:59 < daja77> stolen, bad thing 18:00 < ringo78_> s/possibel/plausibel/ 18:00 < ringo78_> stolen = bad Welcoem to the 21st century. 18:00 < ringo78_> s/Welocoem/Welcome/ 18:01 < daja77> ringo78_: to get your right, your are puzzling PCs from which hardware was stolen 18:02 < ringo78_> some is stolen not all fortunenatly . 18:02 < daja77> how the hell someone gets such a job? 18:03 < ringo78_> By a sipatch bureau... 18:04 < ringo78_> dispach sri 18:04 < daja77> huh? 18:04 < owl> <-- off for "having fun" or so 18:04 < owl> bye 18:04 < daja77> rofl 18:05 < ringo78_> yeh laugh its something ... Maybe its called dispach agency... 18:08 < ringo78_> hmm bad superblock ... Nice have to boot from cd... 18:25 < ringo78_> Think I gave my own computer to llittle attention today, he/she is taking revenge ... Bad superblock... 18:25 < daja77> revenge, hehe 18:34 < ringo78_> is there any change in the cups package ? It wont compile for some od reason. 18:34 < daja77> ringo78_: disable paranoia checks 18:35 < daja77> cups compiles it just try to install the same man pages as LPRng 18:36 < ringo78_> daja77: ok .. thanks .. 19:05 < kasc> is there a way to make gnomemeeting compile without installing jet another bdb? 19:05 < daja77> bdb? 19:06 < kasc> openldap claims to need bdb41 19:06 < kasc> ang gnomemeeting seems to need openldap 19:06 < daja77> wtf is bdb, I hope it's not berkeleyDB 19:07 < kasc> it is 19:07 < daja77> damn 19:07 < daja77> what does gnomemeeting openldap for 19:07 < kasc> that is exactly what i wanted to hear... NOT 19:07 < kasc> configure in gnomemeeting/ claims openldap is needed 19:07 < kasc> dunno why 19:08 < daja77> kasc: sorry tell me things you wanna hear, I will say them only for you 19:08 < kasc> in fact i would prefer a solution that doesnt contain installing any bdb or ldap 19:09 < daja77> what does ./configure --help say about openldap 19:09 < kasc> nothing 19:09 < daja77> damn again 19:09 < kasc> --with-openldap-includes=PFX Location of OpenLDAP includes. 19:09 < kasc> --with-openldap-libs=PFX Location of OpenLDAP libs. 19:09 < daja77> those suckers 19:10 < kasc> no --enable* or --disable* 19:13 < daja77> it seems that gnomemeeting needs openldap for the ILS directory stuff 19:13 < kasc> ILS? 19:13 < daja77> don't ask me, I just read on their homepage 19:14 < daja77> gnomemeeting was the inspiraton for tcpa target :) 19:15 < kasc> i know that already, too ;) 19:16 < kasc> someone was being very informative :) 19:16 < daja77> who? 19:17 * daja77 is waiting for an answer 19:18 < kasc> think i found a prehistoric version of openldap that doesnt need bdb41 :) 19:18 * kasc innocently changes topic... *whistle* 19:19 < daja77> kasc: don't try to distract 19:21 < kasc> ok ok... esden did 19:21 < daja77> *smile* that's ok 19:22 -!- Lorini [~andrea@p3EE219E9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:24 < kasc> :) 19:31 < daja77> kasc: are you goin to Magdeburg this weekend? 19:33 -!- ^wolf^ [~chatzilla@p5081B6E4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:35 < kasc> Magdeburg? 19:35 < daja77> hi ^wolf^ 19:35 < kasc> hallo ^wolf^ 19:35 < daja77> kasc: there is a Linuxtag on Saturday 19:35 < kasc> oh, nice to know :) 19:36 < kasc> wouldnt know how to get there/where to sleep... 19:38 < ^wolf^> hallo 19:38 < daja77> mhmm, I have to find something for myself, I was told, that there is a nice motel at the railway station 19:38 < daja77> but I don't know it 19:39 < owl> re 19:40 < daja77> re hi 19:40 < kasc> maybe there is a youth hostel or something... 19:40 < daja77> btw, https://www.mdlug.de/linuxtag2003/index.php?option=linuxtag&Itemid=52 19:42 < daja77> kasc: https://www.magdeburg-tourist.de/indexmd.phtml 19:44 < kasc> thx 19:44 < daja77> np 19:47 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082CB74.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:48 < tsa> hi all 19:48 < kasc> hi tsa 19:48 < tsa> hi kasc 19:48 < daja77> hi tsa 19:48 < tsa> hi daja77 19:48 < owl> hi tsa 19:48 < tsa> hi owl 19:52 < kasc> daja77: think that would be too much trouble to now start organizing that for me 19:52 < daja77> hmm :( 19:53 < kasc> i'll have to write a Klausur on friday and still have to learn 19:53 < daja77> good luck 19:54 < kasc> look like i will need lots of that... 19:54 < kasc> thx :) 19:58 < kasc> gnomemeeting still wont build :( 19:58 < daja77> why? 19:59 < kasc> `gm_[blah]' undeclared (first use in this function) <-- and many of those 19:59 < daja77> urgs 19:59 < kasc> stock-icons.c: In function `gnomemeeting_stock_icons_init': 19:59 < kasc> stock-icons.c:54: `gm_ils_directory_stock_data' undeclared (first use in this function) 20:00 < ^wolf^> can i build 1.7 without exim? i'd rather install postfix later myself 20:00 < daja77> sounds like a missing header file 20:00 < daja77> ^wolf^: just choose postfix as default mailer 20:00 < kasc> ^wolf^: sure. just disable it 20:00 < ^wolf^> is there a postfix package? 20:00 < ^wolf^> i didnt see one 20:01 < daja77> there is one 20:01 < ^wolf^> its not in the file "packages" 20:01 < ^wolf^> hm 20:01 < ^wolf^> how would i add it? 20:02 < daja77> if you had a recent CVS it should already be on your hd 20:02 < ^wolf^> k, let me rerun that cvs thing 20:03 < ^wolf^> i add O exim in pkgsel, right? 20:03 < kasc> daja77: besides in the faulty .c file the undeclared string only appears in Makefiles :/ 20:03 < daja77> postfix2.0.6 alessandro It is an alternative to the widely-used Sendmail program. 20:04 < daja77> grabbed from website 20:04 < daja77> kasc: ??? 20:05 < kasc> eg gm_ils_directory_stock_data is only in stock-icons.c, pixmaps/Makefile(.in|.am|) 20:06 * daja77 hates autoconf 20:14 < ^wolf^> after that cvs command nothing really happens ... 20:14 < daja77> ^wolf^: choose postfix as default mailer in Config 20:15 < ^wolf^> daja77: my config doesnt offer that yet 20:15 < ^wolf^> only exim in there 20:15 < ^wolf^> so i am re-running cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs co -P rock-src-1.7 20:15 < ^wolf^> ah, now something happens 20:22 < ^wolf^> still no postfix to choose in MTA 20:22 < daja77> yipeeh, my slashdot submission is set to accepted 20:22 < ^wolf^> only exim 20:22 < ^wolf^> i put O exim and X postfix in pkgsel tho 20:24 < daja77> (X) Use sendmail (8.12.8) as standard MTA 20:24 < ^wolf^> i dont have that 20:24 < daja77> ( ) Use nullmailer (1.00RC5) as standard MTA ( ) Use exim (4.12) as standard MTA ( ) Use postfix (2.0.6) as standard MTA ( ) Do not configure a default MTA 20:25 < ^wolf^> should i delete something and re-run that cvs line? 20:26 < daja77> from Config of the latest snapshot 20:26 < daja77> yes 20:26 < ^wolf^> and _what_ should i delete? 20:26 < daja77> everything 20:26 < ^wolf^> great 20:26 < daja77> you can keep downloads somewhere else 20:26 < ^wolf^> including more than 500 MB of sources? 20:26 < ^wolf^> very funny 20:27 < ^wolf^> okay i move the downoad folder then 20:27 < ^wolf^> download even 20:27 < daja77> just mv download somewhere else and mv it back afterwards 20:40 -!- rxr [~rxr@port-212-202-173-117.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:40 < rxr> hi 20:40 < ^wolf^> hi rxr 20:40 < rxr> h iwo 20:41 < rxr> erghs 20:41 < rxr> hi ^wolf^ 20:41 < rxr> ;-) 20:41 < ^wolf^> ;) 20:41 < daja77> hi rxr 20:41 < rxr> after 10 hours at univesity my fingers seem to be a bit lame ... 20:41 < rxr> hi all 20:42 < tsa> rxr: 20:42 < tsa> 7 download/base/psutils/psutils-p17.tar.bz2 ftp://drocklinux.dyndns.org/software/psutils/psutils-p17.tar.bz2 20:43 < tsa> download still failing - can you put the file there again? 20:48 < rxr> jups - I wanted some days ago - but I was not able to reconstruct the data on the faulty IBM disc 20:48 < rxr> I'll now use my copy on this box.- 20:48 < rxr> thanks for the reminder ;-) 20:48 < tsa> no problem 20:49 < daja77> are there known bugs in stone in connection with grub install? 20:51 < kasc> hi rxr 20:52 < rxr> daja77: yes 20:52 < rxr> the if /boot is an own partition it is not handled correctly ... 20:52 < daja77> it wasn't 20:53 < daja77> well I'll redo yesterday's install and look what happens 20:54 < ^wolf^> i re-ran the cvs thing, and it still doesnt show me postfix as an MTA choice 20:54 < ^wolf^> only exim 20:55 < daja77> did you get any errors while doin this 20:55 < ^wolf^> no 20:59 < ^wolf^> okay now i saw postfix 21:04 < daja77> *rofl* https://www.freebsddiary.org/fretbsd.php 21:05 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D678.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:06 < tcr> re all 21:06 < daja77> hi tcr 21:06 < kasc> hi tcr 21:07 < tcr> hi daja77. What's up to the acc? 21:08 < daja77> well it seems that the machine that blocked our action yesterday doesn't like, so I'll switch back to the other one and give you access 21:08 < daja77> gimme some time to arrange that 21:08 < tcr> fine with that 21:10 < rxr> tsa: could you test if you get the file? 21:11 < tcr> rxr: Hmm. a new version of evolution has been released today... 21:11 < tcr> Aren't you the maintainer? 21:13 < tsa> rxr: mompl 21:13 < tsa> curl: (7) Connect failed 21:13 < tsa> httpd down? 21:14 < rxr> no it is in miguel's repository ... 21:14 < rxr> tsa: hm ?!? 21:15 < tsa> arghs 21:15 < tsa> $ dnsip drocklinux.dyndns.org 21:15 < tsa> 192.168.1.44 21:15 < rxr> arhs .... 21:15 < rxr> I see it too 21:15 < rxr> incorrect 21:15 < tsa> it won't work this way, i guess ;-) 21:16 < rxr> jups 21:16 < rxr> hm shit I know where this came from - but strange that the correct IP has not yet been propagated ... :-( 21:17 < tsa> the dyndns nameserver also have that one. 21:18 < rxr> jups I booted from the corrupted hd some days ago here (at home) - I forgot the there was some cronjob updating the dyndns entry 21:18 < rxr> but this only shows that my real server is also not updating it correctly 21:18 * rxr already ssh'ed 21:23 < tsa> aah! 21:23 < rxr> ;-) 21:23 < tsa> cksum-test (bzip2): download/base/psutils/psutils-p17.tar.bz2 21:23 < tsa> ok. 21:24 < rxr> ack 21:24 < rxr> maybe I should use the dyndns name (from the time when this box was located here at home) more oftern 21:24 < rxr> I usually use the official name gsmp.tfh-berlin.de ... 21:25 < rxr> hm - the box has no ROCK 2.0 /var/log rotator: 21:25 < rxr> 60M Apr 1 19:38 messages 21:25 < daja77> tcr: I don't get sshd running on that machine 21:25 < rxr> 56M Apr 1 19:37 warn 21:25 < tcr> Hrrm... 21:26 < tcr> Ok 21:26 < daja77> it tells me that it cannot found the host keys but they are there 21:27 < tsa> compare hostkey locations in sshd_config and the sshd init script 21:29 < daja77> they are the same, and it doesn't work if start sshd manually 21:33 < daja77> this really annoying 21:43 < daja77> strange, strace showed that sshd gets a ENOENT for open() but the files are present 21:53 < rxr> Yeahhhhh! 21:53 < rxr> I just received the source for the "binary-only" Linux driver of my WLAN card!!!!! 21:53 < rxr> (also the license is yet unknown ...) 21:54 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 21:54 < demian> hi 21:56 < rxr> hm - contains a binary only .o file ... :-( 21:57 < tcr> desassemble ;) 21:58 < huebi> Moin 21:58 < huebi> rxr: WLAN with TI chip set (22MBit)? 21:58 < tsa> huebi! 21:58 < tsa> moin. 21:58 < demian> hi huebi 21:58 < huebi> tsa: Moin :-) 21:58 < huebi> hi demian 21:59 < rxr> no with ADM-Tech 21:59 < rxr> ADM8211 21:59 < rxr> hi huebi ! 22:00 < huebi> hi rxr 22:00 < demian> :) 22:00 < demian> cya 22:00 < rxr> huebi: how are you ? 22:00 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has left #rocklinux () 22:01 < huebi> rxr: Tired :-) Much work and only small money for it... 22:01 < rxr> wasn't it running well last year ? 22:02 < tsa> huebi: i'm still awaiting your invoice for the IBM crt... 22:02 < huebi> tsa: Arghh. Thanks for the hint. 22:02 < huebi> rxr: No, not as good as I had planned it. 22:02 < ^wolf^> Downloading download/praenti/ddd/ddd-3.3.1.tar.gz ... 22:02 < ^wolf^> Finished downloading 0 bytes in 0.217 seconds (0.000 bytes/sec). 22:02 < ^wolf^> curl: (22) The requested file was not found 22:03 < ^wolf^> whats wrong with those? 22:03 < tsa> hm.. 22:03 < rxr> ^wolf^: the remote file might just have moved ... 22:04 < rxr> huebi: hm 22:04 < tsa> Downloading download/praenti/ddd/ddd-3.3.1.tar.gz ... 22:04 < tsa> INFO: Found src/Download-Mirror: none (use the original download locations) 22:04 < tsa> INFO: To force a new mirror auto-detection, remove src/Download-Mirror. 22:04 < tsa> ################# 23.9% 22:04 < rxr> "objdump -d ADM_Prv.o" is my friend ;-) *lol* 22:04 < tsa> the file is tehre 22:04 < rxr> tsa: ah ok - then he is using a mirror wich hasn't got the file yet ... 22:04 < tsa> probably 22:05 < ^wolf^> it picked the fastest mirror ... ftp.leo.org 22:05 < ^wolf^> which one is better? 22:05 < tsa> ^wolf^: the ddd package was introduced just a few days ago, so the mirror doesn't have it (yet). 22:05 < rxr> ^wolf^: for using just added packages "none" as mirror is needed - since they need some time to catch up ;-) ... 22:05 < ^wolf^> sigh 22:06 < daja77> esden: ping 22:06 < tsa> just wait for your downloads to finish, them remove src/Download-Errors and re-run scripts/Download without a mirror 22:06 < ^wolf^> i c 22:06 < tsa> downloading all the sources takes up ages, anyway ;) 22:06 < ^wolf^> i noticed that 22:07 < tcr> moin huebi! 22:07 < huebi> tcr: hi| 22:07 < tsa> esden: you already wanted to fix this one: 22:07 < tsa> Downloading download/esden/povray35/povuni_s-3.5.tgz ... 22:07 < tsa> ERROR: Found download/esden/povray35/povuni_s-3.5.tgz.cksum-err. 22:08 < daja77> hi huebi 22:08 < huebi> huhu daja77 22:08 < daja77> hehe 22:09 < daja77> *sigh* well the story finally made it to slashdot, but everybody is annoyed cos one joke was posted 4 times today :( 22:09 * daja77 phone 22:10 < tsa> daja77: which one? 22:10 < tsa> i can't see anything on /. 22:30 -!- jasonmaier [~joerg@pD958E5AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 22:33 * rxr swithcing off - cu tomorrow 22:34 < ^wolf^> n8 rxr 22:35 -!- rxr [~rxr@port-212-202-173-117.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("leaving") 22:40 -!- Ge0rG` [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:41 < ringo78_> anyone know why xaw3d patch did not succeed ? 22:41 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:41 -!- Ge0rG` is now known as Ge0rG 22:42 < ringo78_> Hi Ge0rG 22:42 < Ge0rG> hi :) 22:44 < daja77> re 22:44 < daja77> tsa: the first 22:45 < daja77> ok it is the second now that about gnomemeeting 22:46 < daja77> that was the base for the tcpa-patch mail from esden 22:49 < kasc> daja77: wanna help me get gnomemeeting to work? :) 22:50 < kasc> i have two different versions failing at different points... 22:50 < daja77> kasc: if I'm able to 22:50 < daja77> ok which points 22:51 < kasc> i told you of the first one already. The second fails with a parse error 22:51 < daja77> uhh 22:51 < kasc> which sounds easyier to solve? :) 22:51 < daja77> tell me about the parse error 22:52 < kasc> In file included from endpoint.h:35, 22:52 < kasc> from gnomemeeting.h:37, 22:52 < kasc> from callbacks.cpp:34: 22:52 < kasc> gdkvideoio.h:47: parse error before `{' token 22:52 < kasc> thats the 2003-04-01 snapshot 22:52 < daja77> any missing semicolons 22:53 < kasc> class GDKVideoOutputDevice : public PVideoOutputDeviceRGB 22:53 < kasc> { 22:53 < kasc> PCLASSINFO(GDKVideoOutputDevice, PVideoOutputDeviceRGB); 22:54 < daja77> fsck c++ 22:54 * kasc is still going to learn c++... next semester ;) 22:54 < daja77> :) 22:55 < daja77> can you mail me the whole file 22:55 < kasc> sure 22:55 < kasc> where to? 22:55 < daja77> daniel@lospalmos.net 22:56 < daja77> kasc: btw, have you tried printing again? 22:56 < kasc> yep, works now 22:56 < daja77> was it the ghostscript version? 22:57 < kasc> uhh... havent tried to print a pdf|ps again... 22:57 < kasc> the last thing was something from within opera 22:57 < daja77> ah ok :) 22:59 < kasc> did the mail reach you, yet? 22:59 < daja77> yes 22:59 < kasc> good :) 23:04 < tcr> rxr: mike won't come in the next time, could you update evolution please? (it fixes some sec vuln's, so it might be really of matter) 23:04 < tsa> arrrrrgh 23:04 < tsa> https://gwget.sourceforge.net/ 23:04 < tcr> oh, he did already go 23:04 < tsa> stuff no one needs. 23:04 < tsa> *sigh* 23:05 < daja77> *rofl* 23:05 < daja77> the did already have a wget frontent in Gnome 1.x 23:05 < tsa> a graphical frontend for wget. 23:05 < tsa> very useful. 23:05 < daja77> yes 23:05 < tsa> (i already discovered Krename a few days ago) 23:06 < tcr> Why not 23:06 < tsa> you won't guess what it's for.. 23:06 < daja77> wget itself hasn't proofed to be useful 23:07 < kasc> tsa: it renames itself to whatever you want it to be called? 23:07 < tsa> not quite. ;) 23:07 < kasc> *damn* ;) 23:10 < daja77> kasc: well my c++ is very bad but try to put the { two lines lower 23:11 < kasc> with just empty lines in between? 23:12 < tsa> time to code GTKls 23:12 < tsa> ;) 23:13 < kasc> tsa: whatabout a directfb featured sleep? 23:13 < kasc> daja77: still the same 23:14 < tsa> kasc: lol. 23:14 < daja77> kasc: this looks like java code, I have seen such things in C++ (maybe because I mainly write in C) 23:15 < kasc> hmm... the next few lines in the error message somewhat look like they could be meant as an explaination... 23:16 < daja77> wait I found some more docs on c++ 23:16 < ringo78_> I yearn to program something in c it writes so lovely. 23:16 < kasc> gdkvideoio.h:49: parse error before `{' token 23:16 < kasc> gdkvideoio.h:50: virtual outside class declaration 23:16 < kasc> gdkvideoio.h:50: non-member function `const char* GetClass(unsigned int)' 23:16 < kasc> cannot have `const' method qualifier 23:16 < kasc> gdkvideoio.h: In function `const char* GetClass(unsigned int)': 23:16 < kasc> gdkvideoio.h:50: `PVideoOutputDeviceRGB' undeclared (first use this function) 23:16 < kasc> gdkvideoio.h:50: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each 23:16 < kasc> function it appears in.) 23:16 < tcr> OpenSSH 3.6.1 released April 1, 2003. 23:17 < tcr> Is that already updated in rock? 23:17 < daja77> tcr: I hope this is not a joke like enlightment 1.0 23:17 < tcr> No it isnt 23:18 < ringo78_> what aer you trying to compile ? 23:18 < kasc> ringo78_: gnomemeeting 23:19 < tcr> ok, ppl.. going sleeping now 23:19 < tcr> gn8 all 23:19 < daja77> kasc: it I can be no help today 23:19 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D678.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 23:19 < daja77> it seems even 23:20 < kasc> this error is from gnomemeeting-2003-04-01. I also have gnomemeeting-0.96.1 sources here failing at some other point 23:20 < kasc> daja77: thx anyways :) 23:20 < daja77> it is strange that they put something before the public: keyword 23:21 < daja77> kasc: I can't remember that other error 23:21 < kasc> stock-icons.c: In function `gnomemeeting_stock_icons_init': 23:21 < kasc> stock-icons.c:54: `gm_ils_directory_stock_data' undeclared (first use in this function) 23:22 < kasc> with gm_*_stock_data only appearing in that file and in Makefiles 23:23 * daja77 fetches his Gnome Programmers Handbook 23:26 < ringo78_> ahh no gnome 2 yet ... sawfish also gives me headaches.. C++ you all bye. 23:26 < daja77> we apologize for the inconvience 23:27 < kasc> ah, looks like i found that one 23:28 < kasc> a header file was corrupted 23:28 < kasc> empty, that is 23:28 < daja77> *aaargh* 23:28 * daja77 is putting away the book 23:29 < kasc> i just took the one from the other sourcetree... hope it works ;) *crosses fingers* 23:29 < daja77> ... 23:33 < kasc> seems to work... 23:33 < daja77> congrats 23:33 < kasc> thx :) 23:36 < daja77> well, I think I'll leave now 23:37 < kasc> sleep well then 23:37 < daja77> thx gn8 23:37 < kasc> gn8 23:38 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-077-213.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 23:43 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 23:44 < A-Tui> hi all! 23:53 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 23:54 < demian> re 23:57 < ^wolf^> gn8 every1 23:58 < demian> n8 23:58 -!- ^wolf^ [~chatzilla@p5081B6E4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("see https://bush.d0t.de") 23:58 -!- Ge0rG` [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:59 < kasc> gn8 all 23:59 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: Ge0rG`!georg@club-mate.net))) 23:59 -!- Ge0rG` is now known as Ge0rG 23:59 < demian> cya 2 23:59 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has left #rocklinux () --- Log closed Wed Apr 02 00:00:45 2003