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--- Log opened Thu Apr 17 00:00:13 2003
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00:04 < tcr> moin dreamind, also watchin harald?
00:04 < dreamind> Moin
00:04 < dreamind> Hi tcr ;)
00:04 < dreamind> nope, just watching my osx *grin*
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00:14 < A-Tui> hola
00:24 < Caspar_> hi - has nobody problems with package attr ?
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00:25 < tcr> Caspar_: Hmm, I know there was something about them on the mailinglist in the last days
00:25 < Mike1> n8 all
00:25 < Mike1> cu in some days
00:25 < tcr> gn8 mike
00:25 < Caspar_> i ve tried it now on another machine - same error ...
00:26 < Caspar_> ls: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/libattr.so.1: file too short
00:26 < Caspar_> and so on ..
00:27 < tcr> Hmm..
00:28 < tcr> I unfortunately deleted my local archive of the mailinglist today...
00:28 < tcr> so search for it yourself in the web archive
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00:28 < tcr> it's anywhere at www.rocklinux.org
00:28 < c4y0> sup!
00:28 < tcr> hi c4y0
00:29 < tcr> not much.. most are off to sleeping
00:29 < tcr> most people that's it
00:31 < tcr> And I'm also about going sleeping soon too
00:32 < Caspar_> tcr: no  - i didn't find anythin in my archive - only some mails where to place those lib files ...
00:33 < tcr> Caspar_: Well the acl/attr package has been updated recently. Sure you have the most recent one?
00:34 < Caspar_> yep - cvs update today
00:34 < esden> hi all
00:35 < Caspar_> hi esden
00:36 * Caspar_ is sorry
00:37 < tcr> Caspar_: Then it's something you should bug on the ml
00:37 < Caspar_> yep
00:37 < Caspar_> i'd only want to recompile my bootdisk - sniff
00:39 < tcr> anyway, I'm off now. gn8 all
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00:39 < esden> hmm hmm ...
00:40 < Caspar_> hmm hmm ?
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00:40 < ringo78> is there anyway I can know wich chipset I have without opening the cover ?
00:44 < A-Tui> i have some errors on packages build caused by shared files, it's a critical error?
00:44 < esden> yes and no
00:44 < Caspar_> A-Tui: which shared files ?
00:45 < esden> A-Tui: but if you disable paranoia check in the configs this error will not occure anymore
00:45 < esden> that only means that that package is containing files that are also contained in an other package
00:46 < esden> there is work done so that such file clashes do not occure anymore but I think you can ignore it 
00:46 < A-Tui> ok, some files in shadow package and any others
00:46 < A-Tui> i have too some .err in log files
00:47 < A-Tui> acl, attr, net-tools, uucp, doxigen ...
00:47 < A-Tui> it should be rebuilt on stage 9, true?
00:48 < Caspar_> what error do you have with attr ?
00:48 < esden> all packages will be rebuilt in stage 9 because that stage is also called the rebuild stage ;-)
00:48 < A-Tui> esden: :) ok
00:49 < A-Tui> Caspar_: i think that can't found aclocal
00:50 < esden> A-Tui: yes that is a kind of fix that clifford made that I hate the most ... he changed the configure.ac and not configure itself
00:50 < esden> make wants to start autoconf automatically
00:50 < esden> and you probably have a too old version of autoconf
00:50 < esden> I had that problem on my alpha too
00:50 < A-Tui> ok
00:51 < esden> you can fix it by removing autoconf and automake package from your system
00:51 < esden> and run ./scripts/Build-Pkg autoconf automake
00:51 < esden> that will install the newest versions on your system
00:51 < A-Tui> system from i'm building?
00:51 < A-Tui> ok
00:51 < esden> yes the system you are building on
00:52 < A-Tui> i'm not building on a ROCK system
00:52 < Caspar_> esden: do you know anything about my problem with attr ?
00:52 < esden> then update to the newest version of autoconf/automake ... if there are no newer versions for your distribution you will probably have to compile it yourself
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00:53 < esden> but it is possible that ./scripts/Build-Pkg autoconf automake will be good enough too
00:53 < esden> Caspar_: nope not that I know of 
00:53 < esden> or ... let me see ...
00:53 < A-Tui> esden: ok, no problem then, i supposed that i should do it until stage 9 be reach
00:53 * -> esden booting natalie ;-)
00:54 * Caspar_ wonders - who is natalie ?
00:55 < esden> my sweet pws433 ;-)
00:55 < Caspar_> ;)
00:56 < A-Tui> esden: autotools on the system from i'm building have not that packages!
00:56 < A-Tui> :)
00:56 < esden> Caspar_: hmm ... I have an error here but I think that is a problem of the alpha port of rocklinux : "checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
00:56 < esden> ;-)
00:56 < A-Tui> have broken dependencies, so they are not installed
00:56 < esden> aha ok
00:57 < esden> so try to install them ...
00:57 < A-Tui> so that will be the cause
00:57 < esden> or kill clifford for me for doing such a fscking fix >_<
00:57 < A-Tui> yes, now 'm going to fight with deb dependencies errors
00:57 < A-Tui> esden: :)
01:00 < esden> A-Tui: have fun ;-)
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01:02 < A-Tui> esden: tnx i will need, deb dependencies can be very stupid
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01:03 < Caspar_> strange - in stage 1 attr builds well :(
01:04 < A-Tui> Caspar_: me brokes on stage 1
01:04 < Caspar_> at stage 5 it fails with: cd ../libattr/.libs; ../../install-sh -o root -g root -m 755 -d /lib; ../../inst
01:04 < Caspar_> all-sh -o root -g root -m 644 -T so_dot_version libattr.lai /lib; test "Generic
01:04 < Caspar_> Linux" = debian || ../../install-sh -o root -g root -T so_dot_current libattr.la
01:04 < Caspar_> i /lib
01:04 < Caspar_> ../../install-sh: line 377: 25559 Bus error               (core dumped) $CP $sol
01:05 < Caspar_> ib $install_name
01:07 < esden> A-Tui: I know it better then you can imagine *sigh*
01:08 < esden> Caspar_: that seems to be a problem on your system ... not in rock
01:08 < Caspar_> i've tried it already on two different systems ...
01:08 < Caspar_> same error
01:10 < A-Tui> esden: i heve needed build it handly, without dpkg tool
01:10 < A-Tui> but now i have it on the system
01:11 < Caspar_> both rock1.7 systems, the first an compaq prolineant the other an athlon 1800 system ...
01:22 < esden> A-Tui: ok ... now you can rebuild the packages ... 
01:22 < esden> Caspar_: I have no idea from were the error comes
01:22 < A-Tui> i stop the building?
01:22 < A-Tui> now is building X system
01:22 < Caspar_> :(
01:23 < esden> A-Tui: you can wait till it is built and then stop ... 
01:24 < A-Tui> ok, when X system finihed the i exec scripts/Build-Target again
01:25 < esden> but you have to set "rebuild broken packages" in the config if you want that rock rebuilds packages that failed the last time ...
01:25 < A-Tui> yes, ok tnx
01:25 < esden> de nada ;-)
01:26 < A-Tui> yeah :)
01:26 < esden> hmm .. I think I should go to bed now
01:26 < A-Tui> buenas noches esden!
01:26 < esden> it is pretty late and I have to get up at 7:00 >_<
01:27 < A-Tui> have nice dreams
01:27 < esden> buenas noches A-Tui ja vamo a cama
01:27 < esden> or so ;-)
01:27 < A-Tui> ja==y
01:27 < A-Tui> :)
01:28 < esden> I mean "yo"
01:28 < esden> or so ;-)
01:28 < A-Tui> ahhh then to voy a la cama
01:28 < A-Tui> s/to/yo/
01:28 < Caspar_> n8 esden
01:28 < esden> gracias A-Tui ... (I really have to work on my spanish ;-))
01:29 < A-Tui> when need help with spanish tell me i will glad to help
01:29 < esden> nice to hear that ... good night
01:30 < A-Tui> gn8 esden
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03:37 < A-Tui> bye bye!
03:38 < A-Tui> cu tomorrow
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04:19 < Caspar> n8
04:27 < n00kie> sleep well Caspar :)
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07:27 < huebi> Moin
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08:56 < rxr> re
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10:12 < blindcoder> moin
10:35 < esden> good morning everyone
10:36 < blindcoder> moin esden
10:36 < esden> info IV lecture is fun ;-)
10:36 < esden> hoho blindcoder 
10:36 < blindcoder> esden: no hangover is fun, too :)
10:36 < esden> formal languages and chomsky-grammar is fun ;-)
10:36 < blindcoder> coffee-by-click is fun :D
10:37 < esden> lol ... yes I think you won ;-)
10:37 * blindcoder smiles :D
10:39 * blindcoder thinks about what he could do
10:40 < _NULL> morning. *yawn*
10:40 < blindcoder> moin nully
10:40 < blindcoder> _NULL: don't be so sleepy
10:41 < blindcoder> I just got up half an hour ago, only I'm allowed to be sleepy
10:41 < _NULL> blindcoder: :ppp i have "verschlafen" and after that i waited one hour in ingolstadt because of a "ausgefallenen zug" *grrrrr* so don't complain
10:41 < blindcoder> oh, nice
10:42 < _NULL> yes. very nice. - H A T E - is the only word i have now in my head
10:42 * blindcoder hides from owl
10:42 < _NULL> blindcoder: *g* didn't know that you're one of the "DB-idiots"
10:43 < blindcoder> no, but I hide nonetheless
10:43 < _NULL> hmm. k.
10:45 < _NULL> NOOOOOO!!!! another fscking train is deleted today! so i must to take the latest train at 19:52!!! *EXPLODE*
10:46 < blindcoder> okay, danger is over now
10:46 < blindcoder> she's exploded, and everything is normal
10:47 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-079-189.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux
10:47 < _NULL> hi daja77
10:48 < daja77> hey _NULL :)
10:48 < blindcoder> hi daja77
10:48 < daja77> hi blindcoder
10:48 < _NULL> attention daja77, /me is in explosive mood
10:48 < daja77> thx for the warning
10:49 * daja77 is calm and relaxed this morning
10:49 * blindcoder is also relaxed.
10:50 < blindcoder> Not that I had any energy to make sudden moves :)
10:50 < daja77> *g*
10:50 < _NULL> daja77: lucky boy
10:50 < daja77> erhm, yes
10:54 * daja77 is cleaning up his mail folder
10:54 * blindcoder now reading his second mail-box... bbl (much later)
10:55 < daja77> :)
10:59 < esden> huhu daja77, owl
10:59 < daja77> lol, spammer typos...
10:59 < daja77> hi esden
10:59 < esden> owl is having her attack once more?
11:00 < daja77> esden: she seems to be dangerous, today, better watch out
11:00 < _NULL> esden: *kick* i have attacks if i want to have them! *grrr*
11:00 < esden> ok I get my baseball stick ... if she will be on attacking me I will hit her with it
11:01 < esden> ahh ... ok ... you kick me ? 
11:01 < daja77> esden: maybe it is better to just leave her alone
11:01 * -> esden hitting owl with whole force of his hands with the baseball stick on owl's back
11:01 < esden> you feel better now owl?
11:02 < _NULL> esden: nope!
11:02 < esden> ok ... /me hitting owl once more 
11:02 < esden> daja77: hmm ... why?
11:02 < daja77> esden: why not, if she wishes to be
11:02 * _NULL kicking esden until he dies
11:03 < _NULL> esden: do _you_ feel better now?
11:03 < esden> ohh ... thanks owl ... but thanks ... I want to stay alive ... this world is so beautifull
11:03 < esden> yes a bit ... but I am not dead
11:03 < daja77> hehe, dead he'll be very relaxed
11:03 < _NULL> esden: have you drunk to much?
11:03 * -> esden hitting owl with the stick several hundred time
11:03 < esden> s
11:04 < esden> daja77: hrmpf
11:04 < esden> no ... I only had Info IV lecture and learned about Chomsky-Grammar ... I love my life
11:05 < _NULL> esden: gnaaaa.
11:05 < daja77> esden: which type?
11:05 < blindcoder> esden: the world is not beautiful... but crappy enough to stay here :)
11:05 < daja77> blindcoder: depends
11:06 < esden> we started today with it ... so we learned that there are 4 types ... Ch-0-G Ch-1-G Ch-2-G and Ch-3-G
11:06 < esden> very nice
11:06 < blindcoder> daja77: I've found my will to live again yesterday, so don't you dare to convince me of something else! :)
11:06 < _NULL> wonderful world. i guess someone is sleeping to deep and dreaming
11:06 < daja77> blindcoder: I never would, what happened yesterday? :)
11:07 < blindcoder> daja77: too much alcohol, but a wonderful evening nonetheless :)
11:07 < daja77> _NULL: nope, it is just a matter of your point of view
11:07 < esden> owl shut up ... you are emitting negative waves ...
11:07 < _NULL> esden: na und?
11:07 < esden> I want to stay in good mood for some more time ... 
11:08 < _NULL> esden: staying in good mood is just depending of which drugs you take
11:08 < blindcoder> _NULL: I "empfehle" ethanol
11:08 < daja77> _NULL: nope, no drugs needed
11:08 < esden> owl you are talking shit and you know that ...
11:09 < esden> daja77: FULL ACK
11:09 < _NULL> daja77: sure.
11:09 < _NULL> esden: nope.
11:09 < _NULL> blindcoder: nope. it just kills the brain
11:10 < blindcoder> _NULL: yes, that's why :){
11:10 < blindcoder> htat reminds me...
11:10 < blindcoder> I still have to get my car.
11:10 < blindcoder> It's still in Mailing, where I left it.
11:10 < daja77> *lol*
11:11 < _NULL> esden: and - now i'm gone. goodbye. code and be happy.
11:11 < esden> cu owl ...
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11:11 < blindcoder> daja77: I had to leave it there or take it with me and don't drink alcohol. Easy choice :)
11:11 < daja77> np with that
11:11 < daja77> what does she mean with L.A.
11:12 < esden> something self destructive for sure
11:12 < blindcoder> I don't know.
11:12 < blindcoder> I don't wanna know.
11:12 < daja77> *g*
11:12 * -> esden nither
11:12 < daja77> you don't like her, ic
11:12 < blindcoder> it's not that I don't like her.
11:13 < blindcoder> It's just that I can't stand her today.
11:13 < daja77> sometimes she is nasty
11:13 < blindcoder> If your in a good mood you shouldn't talk to her
11:14 < daja77> depends
11:14 < daja77> but let's change the subject, it is kinda dull
11:14 < blindcoder> yeah
11:16 * blindcoder looking forward to evening :)
11:16 < daja77> blindcoder: why?
11:16 < blindcoder> daja77: Stofan and I will continue where we had to stop this morning at about 02:30 ;)
11:16 < blindcoder> cause the disco closed :)
11:16 < daja77> drinking
11:17 < blindcoder> well, that was a part of it
11:17 < blindcoder> the other part was looking for and finding some cute girls intermixed with some dancing
11:17 < daja77> have you found one?
11:18 < blindcoder> yeah, but they just looked cute.
11:19 < daja77> ...but were dump, or what?
11:19 < blindcoder> good to place in a car for decorating reasons
11:19 < daja77> dumb even
11:19 < blindcoder> yeah
11:19 < daja77> but for one night...
11:20 < blindcoder> Worth a second thought >:-D
11:20 < daja77> hehe
11:20 < daja77> it is hard to find cute, intelligent girls that wanna go out with you/me
11:21 < blindcoder> it's aready hard enough to find girls that meet the first two criteria
11:21 < blindcoder> the third will come as soon as I lost some 30 kilos
11:21 < daja77> hmmmmmmm
11:21 < blindcoder> well... right now it's only ~28 kilos to go :)
11:22 * daja77 has added difficulties but don't wanna talk about
11:22 * -> esden -> foooood
11:22 < blindcoder> esden: what kind?
11:22 < daja77> breakfast, nice idea
11:23 < blindcoder> hmm...
11:23 * blindcoder not hungry, so won't eat
11:24 * blindcoder changing Playlist
11:24 < daja77> *rofl* found a spam, reading: get her to say "yes"
11:25 < blindcoder> *lol*
11:25 < daja77> oh it was how to get her to say yes, any idea what they proposed?
11:26 < blindcoder> penis-enlargement
11:26 < daja77> exactly
11:27 < blindcoder> surprise surprise :)
11:27 < daja77> yeah, dumb suckers, how this changes the situation
11:28 < blindcoder> well, you could then go to a fitness-studio, train a few dozen kilos of muscles onto you body and then go stripping with your 2 meter 50 cock :D
11:29 < daja77> hehe, guess you'll not meet the intelligent girls there either
11:30 < blindcoder> right >_<
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11:30 < daja77> hi ho tcr
11:30 < tcr> moin all
11:30 < blindcoder> hi tcr
11:30 < daja77> tcr: in a good mood today?
11:31 < daja77> hmm I got nice tips to stop aging
11:32 < blindcoder> thanks, I don't feel that old already :)
11:32 * daja77 neither
11:32 < tcr> I do ;)
11:33 < daja77> lol, you tcr, you do something wrong
11:34 < tcr> Well, tomorrow I'll go to hamburg for a week... vacation is the only time where I find time for reading...
11:34 < tcr> so actually I'm quite fine
11:35 < daja77> tcr: have fun in HH
11:35 * daja77 is goin to spreewald
11:35 * blindcoder is going to work >_<
11:35 < daja77> on easter
11:36 < tcr> spreewald? What's that for an ossi kaff?
11:36 < daja77> tcr: it is a region you analphabet :)
11:37 < tcr> Ahja
11:38 < daja77> a region with a wendish minority
11:39 * tcr is drinking some multivitamin juice
11:39 < daja77> muhahaha
11:39 * blindcoder is drinking cofee
11:40 < tcr> what's so funny about that?
11:40 < daja77> next time you're telling us drinking milk
11:41 < tcr> Hmm, I do only drink Müllermilch
11:41 < daja77> *urgs*
11:41 < tcr> I wonder that you heard about that on the eastside ;)
11:42 < daja77> tcr: we live not in the woods...
11:42 < tcr> You do not???? O_o
11:42 < tcr> Then I have an entirely wrong picture about you ;)
11:42 * daja77 shakes head about tcr
11:42 < daja77> tcr: don't complain, mainz is not much better I think
11:43 < daja77> lol, "Je mehr man sich Microsoft-Software anschaut, desto klarer wird, daß wir
11:43 < daja77> _nicht_ aus dem gleichen Kulturkreis wie die kommen."
11:43 < tcr> Sure it is... cradle of the civilizing of the german culture
11:44 < daja77> tcr: german + culture, are you sure
11:44 < blindcoder> that's something rarely used in one sentence :)
11:45 < tcr> And I actually don't wonder about your milk phobia... I mean, you must have feared that the milk you drink might be radioactive contaminated
11:45 < daja77> tcr: what have they told you at school, stupid
11:46 < tcr> I don't listen to them since ages ;)
11:46 < daja77> tcr: I see the negative results here
11:46 < tcr> I rather like to draw my own world as _I_ want it to be... much funnier, you know ;)
11:48 < tcr> German was having the most significant and the most impressive culture for the last 200years
11:48 < daja77> tcr: stop reading your drawings
11:48 < tcr> If it's still so is another question....
11:49 * tcr sighs
11:49 < daja77> hehe, fed up with ossies
11:50 < tcr> Yo man
11:50 < daja77> tcr: what's your problem
11:51 < tcr> Don't wanna tell, it'd be too much smashing, I guess
11:51 < daja77> tell me you can't shock
11:51 < daja77> me
11:53 < tcr> Dont feel like so
11:53 < daja77> have you ever been around here?
11:53 < tcr> Where?
11:54 < daja77> east, somewhere
11:54 < tcr> Yes certainly, why?
11:54 < daja77> I just like questioning people
11:54 * blindcoder getting 2nd coffee
11:54 < daja77> damn coffee machine he got
11:55 * tcr is eating some chips
11:56 < tcr> I was in Leipzig, Dresden and Chemnitz... if you're interested in that
11:56 * daja77 too ;)
11:59 < tcr> And I'll go to Berlin in three month or so
11:59 * daja77 likes Berlin somehow
12:00 < tcr> Well, it's with school, you know... and wheere must be out hotel? Yes, right in the center of Kreuzberg
12:01 < daja77> problems with that?
12:01 < tcr> No, actually not... might become quite funny
12:02 < daja77> yeah, but watch out if the turkish girls have a man behind them ;)
12:03 < tcr> Well, I hardly can distuingish between turkish girls and men... both have got moustaches, you know ;)
12:03 < daja77> hehe, I think in berlin some girls have no moustache
12:04 < tcr> Don't like that type anyway
12:05 < daja77> blond german girls instead?
12:06 < tcr> Yes, or scandinavian girls
12:07 * daja77 is not so into blonde girls
12:08 < blindcoder> damn... 3 days and almost half a pound of espresso beans are gone
12:08 < capchaos> blindcoder, still not dead? ;)
12:08 < daja77> hey capchaos ;)
12:08 < capchaos> hey daja77 :)
12:09 < blindcoder> capchaos: nah, prefer staying alive and laughing about the world now :)
12:09 < daja77> blindcoder: good choice
12:10 < capchaos> blindcoder, another side affect in coffee over consumption ;)
12:10 < blindcoder> capchaos: I'll place that under "Good Thing(tm)" :)
12:11 < daja77> he compensated this with alcohol :)
12:11 < capchaos> seems tha latter has won ;)
12:12 < daja77> tcr: btw, /me remembers a horror school trip to slovakia :)
12:12 < tcr> Haha
12:12 < tcr> Hahahaha
12:12 < tcr> Erm
12:12 < tcr> ok ;)
12:12 < daja77> tcr: what?
12:12 * tcr is getting something to drink... the chips made him thirsty
12:13 < daja77> the day of tcr, eating, drinking, farting...
12:13 < tcr> :P
12:14 < tcr> You're just jealous, that's it
12:14 < daja77> ahem, no
12:15 < tcr> Gosh! I hate that damn bug in bash.... Time that I link /bin/bash to my own version of bash
12:15 < blindcoder> mhich bug?
12:15 < daja77> tcr: or using zsh
12:15 < tcr> $ ös
12:16 < tcr> $ ls
12:16 < tcr> $ <up> <up>
12:16 < tcr> Segmentation fault (core dump)
12:16 < blindcoder> hoe?
12:16 < blindcoder> nice...
12:16 < blindcoder> but that's more a bug in readline than in bash
12:16 < tcr> jo
12:16 < tcr> mom
12:17 < tcr> https://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-bash/2003-04/msg00026.html
12:18 < blindcoder> replies on gnu-mailinglist can take nome time...
12:18 < blindcoder> I had to wait 2 weeks for a reply to my fileutils patch
12:19 < daja77> tcr: nice slogan at the end of mail
12:19 < tcr> Well, my previous patches has been sent somewhen in february or so
12:20 < daja77> btw, are these patches included in rock bash package
12:20 < blindcoder> oh... okay
12:21 < tcr> Nope
12:22 * daja77 is goin for breakfast now
12:22 < blindcoder> an guadn
12:22 < daja77> blindcoder: ich kann kein bayrisch ;)
12:22 < daja77> ich habs trotzdem entziffert
12:23 < tcr> mom
12:23 < daja77> ??
12:23 < tcr> https://freebits.de/trash/Praktikantin.jpg
12:24 < blindcoder> sick
12:24 < blindcoder> he should think about opening the windows every once in a while :)
12:24 < daja77> lol, drawn by dagobert
12:36 -!- necronomicon [~ncn@pD9E1645F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
12:37 < tcr> haha necronomicon that pseudo-grimoire!
12:37 < tcr> hello
12:38 < necronomicon> ?
12:38 < necronomicon> Excusez-moi, mon patron, ton cul saura que ton col poise, Francois Villon
12:38 < tcr> You don't believe in the necronomicon book, do you?
12:38 < necronomicon> No, I do not.
12:38 < necronomicon> Do you?
12:39 < tcr> No, that's why I called it the pseudo-grimoire ;)
12:40 < necronomicon> Should I get 1.6-pre3 or 1.7-snapshot?
12:40 < tcr> 1.7
12:40 < tcr> 1.6 is quasi dead
12:41 < necronomicon> Ok
12:43 < necronomicon> I think I will use a dietlibc-based system, even though I do not like von Leitner
12:44 < tcr> 'esden' is then your contact person for questions
12:45 < necronomicon> Hm, I need gcc on that rhl system
12:48 * tcr is away: eating
12:52 < necronomicon> Well, when I run `./scripts/Config`, there is a bunch of messages telling me that some variables are undeclared
12:58 < necronomicon> esden!
13:15 < daja77> re
13:15 < daja77> necronomicon: had a fight with fefe?
13:16 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4FBC6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("installing GeForce4 :)")
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13:25 < necronomicon> daja77?
13:25 < necronomicon> No
13:25 < daja77> <necronomicon> I think I will use a dietlibc-based system, even though I do not like von Leitner
13:25 < tcr> necronomicon: Hmm? That sounds odd
13:26 < tcr> re all
13:26 < necronomicon> re
13:26 < daja77> re tcr
13:26 < necronomicon> What sounds odd?
13:26 < necronomicon> The errors?
13:26 < tcr> that it complains about undeclared variables..
13:26 < tcr> What have you done?
13:27 < necronomicon> bunzipped and untared the snapshot package
13:28 < necronomicon> then ./scripts/Config
13:28 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p50801125.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
13:28 < blindcoder> okay, GeForce4 up and running :)
13:29 < necronomicon> cd /mnt/rock; bunzip2  rock-src-1.7-200303192343.tar.bz2; tar xvf  rock-src-1.7-200303192343.tar
13:30 < daja77> blindcoder: hehe, 3d gaming session now?
13:30 < blindcoder> nah, since I replaced the GeForce2 with this one :)
13:31 < daja77> what for?
13:32 < blindcoder> Jedi Knight2 and to put the GF2 into my Windows-Machine for gaming
13:32 < tcr> necronomicon: Muha. the last snapshot it from March.. that's quite old... C
13:32 < tcr> necronomicon: Could you get a more recent version from cvs?
13:32 < necronomicon> Hm
13:32 < necronomicon> I installed ncurses-devel
13:32 < necronomicon> now it works
13:32 < daja77> blindcoder: in your what? w*ws machine
13:32 < necronomicon> cvs? so to say as it is in the topic?
13:33 < daja77> yes
13:33 < tcr> necronomicon: yes, but the latter command
13:33 < necronomicon> yeah
13:33 < necronomicon> I am not as stupid as you think
13:33 < daja77> *g*
13:34 < ringo78> blindcoder: You got agp working ?
13:34 < tcr> Well, yesterday we had the conclusion that we all are lusrs
13:34 < blindcoder> ringo78: everything running fine save rivafb
13:34 < necronomicon> lol
13:34 < daja77> tcr: I should better not saying such things in public
13:34 < blindcoder> daja77: yes, since quite a few games have neither a linux port nor work with wine{,x}
13:35 < daja77> blindcoder: I don't need win games
13:35 < tcr> daja77: Well, just another inclination that you're a luser ;(
13:35 < tcr> ;)
13:36 < daja77> tcr: shut up
13:36 < blindcoder> daja77: I don't _need_ them either. I _want_ them
13:36 < necronomicon> lol
13:36 < blindcoder> and my fahter wants to run Catia V5
13:36 < blindcoder> a CAD-Program heavy on 3D-Drawing
13:36 < necronomicon> This atmosphere is so different from #debian.
13:36 < necronomicon> I love it
13:36 < daja77> necronomicon: *rofl*
13:36 < tcr> blindcoder: Do you know kqlives?
13:37 < blindcoder> I know Commande Keen, but that's probable something else
13:37 < tcr> blindcoder: And do you know egoboop?
13:37 < tcr> kqlives.sf.net and egoboop.sf.net
13:38 < tcr> it's egoboo.sf.net, sorry
13:38 < daja77> egoboo, hmm sounds like tcr
13:38 < blindcoder> hmm... I'll have a look
13:39 < necronomicon> Do you like Fefe?
13:39 < necronomicon> I dont
13:39 < daja77> necronomicon: dunno, I like to read his funny posts
13:39 < tcr> Don't know him, so yes! Me and my awesome misanthropia!
13:40 < necronomicon> lol
13:41 < blindcoder> tcr: both look sweet, I'll try them out
13:41 < tcr> They're gorgeous! My lil bro' loves them more than commercial games
13:43 < blindcoder> hehe
13:47 < tcr> Hmm, If I had the money, I'd give some donation to them... But alas, I don't have it ;)
13:56 * daja77 is installing rock on p75 ... is that slow ...
13:59 < necronomicon> Does Pentium III optimization include support for all Pentium IIIs?
13:59 < daja77> you mean xeons?
13:59 < necronomicon> Well, no, I have a Pentium III (Katmai) here
13:59 < necronomicon> Whatever ...
14:00 < daja77> should work
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14:03 < tcr> Oh well... daja77: Is bash on the installdisk, ie. is bash the shell used for the rock scripts?
14:03 < daja77> I think so
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14:04 < _NULL> re
14:04 < tcr> yup then it's really slow...
14:04 < _NULL> someone knows this: https://the-null.de.vu/rocklinux/rock-1.7/1-coreutils.err ?
14:04 < tcr> Have that trouble currently too on my p200...
14:04 < daja77> re _NULL
14:05 < esden> re hi all
14:05 < tcr> The hand-compiled Ash version was somewhat borken.. Didn't get along with some scripts
14:05 < daja77> _NULL: thx for the ad
14:05 < _NULL> daja77: i meant the .err-file
14:05 < daja77> re esden
14:05 < tcr> _NULL: configure.ac:31: error: Autoconf version 2.56 or higher is required
14:05 < daja77> _NULL: I know, I'll get an ad anyway :)
14:05 < _NULL> k. thx.
14:06 < esden> owl must do luki luki ... ;-)
14:06 < _NULL> esden: luki luki ?
14:06 < tcr> moin esden
14:06 < daja77> damn tcr was faster
14:07 < tcr> Pwned ya!!I'm ya master!!!
14:07 < esden> yes ... look more precisely on the .err files ... then it will not be nessesary to ask ;-)
14:07 < _NULL> give me a "blindenhund" which can read. please!
14:07 < _NULL> esden: :pppp
14:07 < daja77> _NULL: blind?
14:07 < tcr> esden: Well the next time she comes to beg us taking over breathing for her
14:07 < esden> that is what I mean with "luki luki" ;-)
14:07 < esden> lol!
14:07 < daja77> tcr: puh, you and being master
14:08 < _NULL> tcr: fsck u! but don't offend me!!!
14:08 < tcr> daja77: Well, you're old and fat, that's probably it! ;)
14:08 < esden> tcr: I am sure there are people that are telling her "inhale, exhale, inhale, exhale ..."
14:08 -!- _NULL [~owl@aszlig.net] has left #rocklinux ("thx for offending me.")
14:08 < tcr> esden: She's pregnant???!
14:08 < daja77> lol
14:09 < esden> hmm ... not that I know of ... O_O
14:09 < daja77> tcr: better take care of what you say about me
14:09 < esden> if it is so I have nothing to do with it!
14:09 < tcr> but isn't that normally said when getting a child? Or am I so hollywoodized her
14:09 < tcr> here
14:09 < daja77> tcr: anyway you made her drop out again
14:10 < tcr> Don't care
14:10 < esden> hmm ... it is like that ... but I rather think that she needs to be told that even if she is not getting a child ... otherwise she would optimize it out ;-)
14:10 < tcr> If I was she, I'd see the doctor and yell him about my complexes
14:10 < blindcoder> re esden
14:11 < esden> rehehe blindcoder ;-)
14:12 < blindcoder> esden: you're intoxicated, aren't you?
14:12 < esden> nope I am not!
14:12 < tcr> blindcoder: dauerzustand ;)
14:12 < esden> I am only in a very good mood
14:12 < tcr> Me too
14:12 < esden> but I have a genetically caused intoxication
14:12 < tcr> Let's scare all away! ;)
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14:13 < _NULL> tcr: say again, what you said some minutes ago!!
14:13 < esden> hmm ... tcr we are not good enough ... owl came back ;-)
14:14 < _NULL> esden: SHUT UP!!
14:14 < esden> :P
14:14 < esden> no I will not ... why should I?
14:14 < esden> only because I am in a good mood and loving life?
14:14 < tcr> esden: a woman in furore! Don't underrate that
14:14 < _NULL> don't ":P" to me! i'm short before quitting _finally_ from rock!
14:15 < esden> for god sake she is far away from me ... otherwise I would be really scared
14:15 < tcr> esden: She might get over to you with a rolling pin! ;)
14:15 < daja77> esden: ???
14:15 < _NULL> tcr: you said, i'm pregnant, didn't you?
14:15 < esden> tcr: urgh!!!
14:15 < _NULL> and don't lie to me! i know everything!
14:15 < esden> daja77: ?
14:15 < tcr> No, I haven't said that! I typed that though...
14:16 < _NULL> tcr: yes. typed. great!!
14:17 < esden> owl is binding too many feelings with typed words, I think ...
14:17 < _NULL> tcr: you're such an ass! you really should go back to kindergarten and learn the basics about communication with people! you might think, that you're a funny guy - but you're just kicking the people's asses!
14:17 < tcr> Hmm, well I typed that as question
14:17 -!- swede [~anders@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has joined #rocklinux
14:17 < _NULL> hi [anders]
14:17 < esden> owl seems to be in a really bad mood ... humm ... that means she needs a guy 
14:18 < tcr> Well, but then you should go back to the psychatria where you seem to come from ;) Don't let's bitch, how often did I tell you that you shouldn't take everything seriously?
14:18 < daja77> esden: I think this is not funny
14:18 < _NULL> esden: thx. i don't need a boy!
14:18 < esden> daja77: hmm ... yes that was not funny ...
14:19 < _NULL> tcr: fsck you, my friend!
14:19 < ringo78> blindcoder: what kind of chipset ?4~
14:20 < _NULL> and, tcr - _you_ need a psychatria! cuz _you_ are really annoying/offending some people. not just me!
14:20 < ringo78> ooops cleaning keybord ...
14:20 < _NULL> hi ringo78
14:20 * tcr sighs intensively..
14:20 < daja77> ringo78: coffee in keyboard?
14:21 < ringo78> hi _NULL !
14:21 < _NULL> tcr: don't sigh, THINK - is the correct thing you should do. especially: thinking before typing.
14:21 < ringo78> daja77: nope some ashes ..
14:21 < daja77> muhahaha
14:21 < swede> lo _NULL
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14:22 < tcr> _NULL: For me it looks much more that you _want_ to be offended.
14:22 < _NULL> tcr: why?
14:23 < swede> lo esden, daja77, ringo78, tcr, et al..
14:23 < tcr> yo swede!
14:23 < daja77> hi swede
14:23 < esden> ho swede 
14:23 * swede wonders if this was the wrong time to peek in on the #.. looks like a warzone..
14:24 < tcr> swede: Just a  furious woman with a rolling pin ;)
14:24 < ringo78> btw is there a festival (speech synthesis) package allready ?
14:24 < swede> *g*
14:24 < esden> swede: no ... it is a normal conversation between men and furious femail ;-)
14:25 < _NULL> tcr: fuck your mother.
14:25 < swede> _NULL: would the gents asessment be correct in this matter?
14:25 < _NULL> i don't care anymore.
14:25 < swede> tsk tsk.. bad language.. ;-)
14:25 < _NULL> and: i will leave rock. bye
14:25 < daja77> bye
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14:26 < swede> uhm.. looks like you guys might have annoyed her quite a bit..
14:26 < swede> she normally doesn't leave the # like that..
14:27 < daja77> swede: yes, blame tcr and esden
14:27 < tcr> Ok, I bet she'll come back crawling within the next days... Anyone who wants to bet?
14:27 < swede> tcr/esden: what was the argument about?
14:27 < daja77> tcr: this is not sure
14:28 < swede> she did seem quite upset..
14:28 < esden> tcr: I do not want to bet ... but I think that she will come back ... but not crawling ...
14:28 < esden> swede: she gets pretty easyly upset ... 
14:28 < tcr> esden: Well, that wasn't meant literally ;)
14:29 < esden> tcr: kk
14:30 < tcr> swede: Some people in here just take everything for serious. They immediately feel concerned about themselves, and so can't really distinguish between kidding and serious statements. Well, and owl has been the queen of these people, so..
14:30 < daja77> tcr: you are overdoin this a bit sometimes
14:31 < swede> yeah, but if you all know she is a bit sensitive, how about being a little nicer?
14:32 < tcr> Why? She has to change to struggle with life
14:32 < tcr> otherwise she's doomed to fail
14:32 < daja77> bullshit
14:32 < tcr> Certainly
14:32 < swede> hmmm..
14:34 < tcr> I even _talked_ to her about that several times
14:34 < daja77> tcr: there is no reason to pick on her everytime
14:34 < swede> yes, but if she is having a hard time at the moment, making things harder doesn't always help..
14:34 < tcr> If i say to her that she shouldn't take me for serious all time, she'll sink on that, but she still keeps on doing so
14:34 * blindcoder eating
14:34 < tcr> Well, then it's not my problem...
14:35 < tcr> daja77: I actually don't that... or at least not wilfully
14:35 < tcr> don't do
14:36 < daja77> tcr: this is a problem of both parties, you could also stop saying such things
14:36 < tcr> I talked to esden.
14:36 < daja77> ?
14:39 < tcr> Yo
14:40 < daja77> well if you insult her in a speech directed to esden this changes nothing
14:40 * tcr sighs once again
14:41 < tcr> You'd perfectly fit to owl...
14:41 < daja77> tcr: explain
14:42 < tcr> Neither me not esden insulted her by any means.
14:42 < tcr> That's a chimerism, fantasy, whatever
14:43 < esden> sarkasm ...
14:43 < tcr> And esden seems to be the one and only who got that. Hail brother!
14:43 < esden> black humor
14:44 < esden> I can understand that some people do not understand that ... but I did not know that owl is not understanding it ... 
14:44 < esden> seems at least so
14:44 < daja77> esden: she just was not into this kind of humour today, I wonder that you haven't noticed
14:45 < tcr> No, she's _never_ understood that, because she immediately thinks it's a concern against her own
14:46 < daja77> tcr: nope
14:46 < tcr> And daja77, truthfully speaking, you also seem to be sometimes exactly owlish
14:46 < daja77> tcr: no, but you seem to be a bit childish
14:47 < tcr> Well, ok... esden you heard it.. we're infantile assholes.. let's that as it is. Can live with it
14:47 < daja77> tcr: not you and esden, only you
14:48 * tcr sighs
14:49 < tcr> You're so trivial
14:49 < daja77> aha
14:51 < tcr> I bet if I hadn't said my age to you, you wouldn't say that. And that makes you so trivial and not better than most people else. So, my proganda has been reasoned at least.
14:51 < daja77> tcr: it is not a matter of age
14:51 < swede> stop the bickering please..
14:52 < swede> you all know owl takes offence easily, just give it a break for a while.. relentless teasing is not helping anyone in the long run
14:52 < daja77> good idea, we calm down and talk about useful things later
14:52 < esden> daja77: no I have not noticed ... 
14:52 < daja77> esden: :(
14:54 < esden> :-/
15:03 < rolla> re
15:03 < swede> lo rolla
15:03 < daja77> hi rolla
15:08 < rolla> where are rock 1.7 put it's ISO?
15:17 < daja77> rolla: ftp://iso.rocklinux.de/dRock/unstable/2.0.0-alpha/
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15:38 -!- Auge [wolfram@p5088BA7D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
15:39 < Auge> hey :)
15:39 < daja77> hey Auge, nice to see you here
15:39 < Auge> :)
15:39 < Auge> has freenode chanserv, nickserv?
15:39 -!- zed2k [~zed2k@wh59-408.st.Uni-Magdeburg.DE] has joined #rocklinux
15:39 < zed2k> hi
15:39 < daja77> huhu zed2k
15:39 < Auge> hi zed ;)
15:39 < swede> Auge: nickserv yes..
15:39 < swede> Auge: chanserv, no idea..
15:40 < esden> Auge: yes it does have both
15:40 < zed2k> better than sex? that's what i call high claims...
15:40 < daja77> zed2k: jealous :)
15:41 < esden> zed2k: try to proof the contrany ;-)
15:41 < zed2k> esden: i won't give you my girlfriends phone no. :-)
15:41 < daja77> wb esden
15:41 < esden> re daja77 
15:41 < esden> zed2k: hmm ... that is bad :-(
15:42 < zed2k> esden: ah, don't worry, there's a chance to find it out someday ;)
15:42 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49E91.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
15:42 < daja77> wb tcr
15:43 * Auge registered nick and installs this channel to his list :)
15:43 < daja77> Mike1: ping
15:43 < swede> well, I'm off.. got better things to do for the rest of the afternoon.. like tracing kernel bugs for example.. :-/
15:43 < daja77> swede: have fun ;)
15:43 < esden> zed2k: that is fine ;-)
15:43 < swede> daja77: cheers.. :)
15:43 < esden> Auge: well done ;-)
15:43 -!- swede [~anders@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting")
15:43 < Auge> esden: irssi rocks ;)
15:43 < esden> Auge: ACK
15:45 < blindcoder> back
15:45 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
15:45 < daja77> wb blindcoder
15:46 < daja77> blindcoder: where have you been?
15:47 < blindcoder> daja77: eating and fetching my car
15:47 < daja77> hehe, so I guess your mail was right
15:47 < blindcoder> ?
15:47 < daja77> the mail which contained you car location
15:48 * blindcoder looking throuh ~/Mail/sent
15:48 < tcr> esden: ?
15:48 < esden> tcr: ?
15:49 < Auge> your banner needs a sexy girl - picture from side... so... there are nice hills... ROCK linux ;)
15:49 < Auge> (ice rocks...)
15:49 < tcr> esden: O_o, wouldst you please be so kind and look into the query
15:50 < tcr> Auge: Design one
15:51 < esden> tcr: on it on it
15:51 < Auge> tcr: not yet - first i have to try rocklinux myself ;)
15:51 < esden> Auge: one moment
15:51 < blindcoder> daja77: erm... which mail?
15:51 < Auge> tcr: but you know: the best babes are daemon babes :)
15:51 < daja77> blindcoder: never mind
15:51 < daja77> Auge is a netbsd guy :P
15:52 < Auge> https://auge.bsd.st/netbsd/wow1_bsd.jpg
15:53 < tcr> Naja
15:54 < daja77> tcr: she is blonde, that's what you wanted
15:55 < tcr> Well, but I like babes with long hairs much more
15:55 < tcr> She must at least have as much hair as I have
15:55 < daja77> bwahaha
15:55 < Auge> tcr: https://auge.bsd.st/girls/  -- have fun
15:56 < Auge> but i am sorry - just 128kbit/s dsl-uplink
15:56 < daja77> all photographed yourself
15:57 < Auge> not :) just nice pics found on web
15:57 < daja77> :)
15:58 < daja77> https://auge.bsd.st/girls/isabell17.jpg, muhahaha
15:59 < Auge> daja77?
15:59 < daja77> nothing, just wondering
15:59 < Auge> no... its not my kid ;)
15:59 < daja77> :)
15:59 < Auge> daja77: i like girls with glasses...
16:00 < daja77> ...and kids
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16:03 < Auge> daja77: of course - everyone loves kids... except the ones who can't sleep at night ;)
16:03 < daja77> :)
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16:04 < necronomicon> Can I build and install rock-1.7 on a e3fs-partition? o_O
16:04 < daja77> necronomicon: yes
16:09 < kasc_> moin
16:10 < daja77> hey kasc_
16:10 < esden> Auge: very nice pics 
16:10 < Auge> esden: ;)
16:11 < necronomicon> Can I built X with dietlibc? I assume not.
16:11 < esden> apropos pics: https://www.rocklinux.org/bann-butt/pic007.jpg <- rocklinux better then sex ;-)
16:11 < Auge> mhh... i am right? 75% here are german or austrian people...
16:11 < esden> necronomicon: a small subset can be built with dietlibc
16:11 < esden> Auge: yes I think so
16:12 < daja77> Auge: wait 'til the spanish arrive :)
16:12 < necronomicon> esden: That means?
16:12 < esden> we have one spanish person I think ... and two Costa Ricanians
16:12 < necronomicon> esden: I just can compile a small X implementation with dietlibc?
16:13 < esden> necronomicon: yes only the tyny X or how it is called ... but I have to admit that I have not tryed to do it ... I have currently other more importaint problems with dietlibc
16:14 < Auge> daja77: which function in the team do you have?
16:15 < daja77> well I'm new to the project, I'm playing around to include rtai into rock
16:16 < Auge> i c :)
16:16 < daja77> hope you are not disappointed
16:17 < esden> some informations you can get in the developers gallery
16:17 < esden> @ Auge 
16:17 < daja77> esden: not about me ;)
16:17 < esden> yes that is right
16:17 < esden> daja77: if you send me data I can include you
16:17 < esden> Auge: https://www.rocklinux.org/people/esden/gallery/
16:17 < daja77> esden: oh thx, will do
16:18 < esden> daja77: when will realtime target appear in cilfford's cvs?
16:19 < daja77> haven't talked to clifford, but I'll be ready next week I hope
16:19 < daja77> esden: I just had some problem with your idea of the patch hook for kernel
16:20 < esden> daja77: yes ... I can imagine that
16:20 < daja77> rtai.conf is ready :)
16:20 < esden> that is a bit a mind squeez ;-)
16:21 < daja77> I was too tired for that yesterday evening
16:21 < Auge> all people there aged +-2years my age
16:22 < esden> Auge: so if you also make patches for rock you fit perfectly here ;-)
16:23 < daja77> esden: do you think it is a good idea to write to clifford right now, or shall I wait, 'til I finished
16:23 < Auge> esden: no... i building packages for netbsd, if i have time... else... i could improve rocklinux ;))
16:26 < esden> daja77: that is your decision ... you could discuss what you already have and what you are willing to do ... perhups he has some ideas 
16:26 < esden> Auge: aha ok
16:27 < zed2k> Auge: nice girls...
16:28 < Auge> zed ;)
16:28 < esden> zed2k: apropos your question about the banner: https://www.rocklinux.org/bann-butt/pic007.jpg
16:29 < zed2k> did i asked for a banner?
16:29 < zed2k> don't remember that
16:30 * Auge asked
16:30 < daja77> Auge: do it
16:30 < esden> ahh ok
16:30 < esden> sorry
16:31 < zed2k> phew, i already thought i went nuts.
16:31 < daja77> esden: ok, just asking, cos I don't know how newbie mails are welcome or not
16:33 < esden> daja77: you will have to test it out ... but I do not think that that mail will be considered DAU level ;-)
16:33 < esden> so that should not cause any problems
16:33 < daja77> esden: thx, I'll try :)
16:35 < daja77> WEEEE, all packages copied to p75
16:36 < daja77> ooops, error message
16:48 < zed2k> daja77:  https://waldhorn.ath.cx/~maki/photo/4te_linuxtag_md/DSC00075.JPG
16:53 < necronomicon> ping.
16:54 < Auge> ./scripts/Download: curl: command not found - mhh
16:59 < daja77> zed2k: ??
16:59 < esden> Auge: you need curl on your host system
16:59 < zed2k> daja77: erkennst du niemanden auf dem bild? :)
17:00 < esden> export LANG=en_EN
17:00 < necronomicon> What's mktemp?
17:00 < Auge> esden: i know now :)
17:00 < necronomicon> rhl9 does not have a mktemp with -p
17:01 < daja77> necronomicon: nope, you'll have to install from src
17:02 < daja77> *argh* Error: opening terminal: linux \n cannot initialize curses, after having done installing for hours
17:03 < daja77> it had already worked on that machine, what went wrong?
17:03 < daja77> zed2k: the japanese guy
17:04 < zed2k> daja77: damn, i switched the digits...
17:05 < zed2k> daja77: https://waldhorn.ath.cx/~maki/photo/4te_linuxtag_md/DSC00057.JPG
17:05 < zed2k> daja77: sorry
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17:05 < daja77> hey n00kie
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17:06 < daja77> zed2k: *argh*
17:07 < zed2k> daja77: ??
17:08 < daja77> zed2k: dark picture of me...
17:08 < zed2k> don't say that, you look fine
17:08 < daja77> *g*
17:08 < zed2k> have a look on kurt, he should be the one crying
17:09 < daja77> hehe, yeah he looked like this in C too :)
17:09 < daja77> somehow compiling rock is more fun than installing it :(
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17:18 < necronomicon> -> $root/var/adm/logs/0-binutils.out -> 0-binutils.err
17:18 < necronomicon> == 04/17/03 17:16:40 =[0]=> Aborted building package binutils.
17:18 < tfing> daja77: why would you want to install it ? :)
17:18 < daja77> tfing: to use it
17:18 < daja77> hi mathieu, btw :)
17:19 < tfing> hi
17:19 * tfing has been unmasked
17:19 < Auge> ah :) download works
17:20 < daja77> hehe, was not that hard :)
17:20 < necronomicon> /bin/sh ./../ylwrap "" arparse.y y.tab.c arparse.c y.tab.h arparse.h --  -d
17:20 < necronomicon> ./../ylwrap: line 86: -d: command not found
17:20 < necronomicon> make[3]: *** [arparse.c] Error 1
17:20 < necronomicon> make[3]: Leaving directory `/mnt/rock/rock-src-1.7/src.binutils.1050595678.16393
17:20 < necronomicon> .2669276620/binutils-2.13.90.0.20/binutils'
17:20 < necronomicon> Uhm
17:20 < necronomicon> Does that mean my sh is not the right one?
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17:34 < rxr> re
17:34 < daja77> re rxr
17:44 < n00kie> Howdy daja77 :)
17:45 < necronomicon> gcc3 and binutils do not build
17:51 < rxr> hi daja77
17:54 < Auge> hmpf. how to modify the package-list without the menu-tool?
17:55 < daja77> rxr: got my message?
18:00 < Auge> which file do i have to edit? packages or packages.txt ?
18:05 < Auge> uh. no zsh in package-list? :(
18:06 < necronomicon> I just don't understand why all the packages don't compile
18:07 < daja77> necronomicon: maybe this is a problem with your host system
18:08 < necronomicon> make[1]: Cross_CC_not_built_so_far_cc: Command not found
18:08 < daja77> do you make a cross build
18:08 < rxr> Auge: what do you want to edit?
18:08 < rxr> the packages to build?
18:08 < Auge> yes
18:08 < necronomicon> nö
18:08 < necronomicon> i mean
18:08 < necronomicon> no
18:08 < necronomicon> normal
18:09 < daja77> necronomicon: have you selected pseudo cross build
18:09 < necronomicon> no
18:09 < rxr> Auge: ./scripts/Config
18:09 < daja77> necronomicon: do it please
18:09 < rxr> got to the export options "custom package selection"
18:09 < rxr> s/export/expert/ ...
18:09 < necronomicon> daja77: in the scrits/Config?
18:10 < daja77> necronomicon: yes
18:10 < necronomicon> ok
18:10 < necronomicon> I see
18:10 < daja77> necronomicon: do a scripts/Cleanup -full before restart build
18:13 < Auge> rxr: yeah... but then i just have "show the current package list" - no chance to modify it
18:29 < necronomicon> daja77: Where can I select pseudo cross build?
18:30 < necronomicon> [*]        This is a cross-build between architectures ?
18:38 < necronomicon> Got it
18:40 < esden> cu all
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19:10 < dinsdale> anyone know where I can find the SuSE 8.2 isos?
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19:12 < martin_> hello ...
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19:17 < A-Tui> salud
19:18 < zed2k> gesundheit.
19:18 < A-Tui> hi zed2k
19:18 < necronomicon> What's "Gesundheit" in French?
19:19 < zed2k> necronomicon: one second, i'll try to find a dict
19:19 < A-Tui> i think it's not Frech
19:19 < zed2k> 19:15:02 < mkoeppe> ... ja, das ist echt schwer, heute noch ein Gerät zu kriegen, das nur 2 Kanäle hat
19:19 < zed2k> hups.
19:19 < zed2k> 19:15:02 < mkoeppe> ... ja, das ist echt schwer, heute noch ein Gerät zu kriegen, das nur 2 Kanäle hat
19:19 < zed2k> ARGH.
19:20 < necronomicon> ?
19:20 * zed2k damns copy&paste..
19:20 < necronomicon> ic
19:20 < zed2k> necronomicon: i wanted to copy&paste from browser, didn't work...
19:20 < zed2k> gesundheit => la sant'e
19:21 < Ge0rG> hey zed
19:21 < necronomicon> Thanks
19:21 < zed2k> hi Ge0rG - finally through with slackware?
19:22 < Ge0rG> zed2k: I still have slack running on one of the machines... rock on another, LFS on the third, and debian on the rest ;)
19:22 < zed2k> Ge0rG: that's what i call heterogen, then
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19:35 < daja77> re
19:37 < A-Tui> re daja77!
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19:39 < daja77> necronomicon: sante with ' over the e
19:39 < daja77> hey A-Tui
19:39 < daja77> hey capchaos
19:39 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-159-100.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Client Quit)
19:39 < A-Tui> what'up daja77
19:39 * daja77 is fed up with his stupidity
19:40 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@B5c67.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux
19:40 < capchaos> sry, providerchange O-o
19:40 < capchaos> hi
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19:47 * TrAns13nT waves
19:48 < daja77> TrAns13nT: hi
19:48 < TrAns13nT> howdy
19:49 < TrAns13nT> spill me some beans on rock linux, I'm about to 86 my gentoo install for personality conflick with certain gentoo devs and want a better replacement then a pre rolled rpm based distro
19:50 < TrAns13nT> is rock another source based distro?
19:50 < tfing> to 86 ?
19:50 < TrAns13nT> 86 == kill, delete, rm -rf /*
19:50 < capchaos> TrAns13nT, yeah ROCK is source based
19:51 < tfing> TrAns13nT: that's what i had understood but i don't see the origin :/
19:51 * TrAns13nT is tired of getting treated like a 6yo girl by certain gentoo devs, and i refuse to use a distro that only caters to broadband users, even when some of their own devs are stuck with dialup
19:51 < daja77> I guess you are older :)
19:51 < TrAns13nT> tfing afaik the origian of 86'in somethign was from the military
19:52 < TrAns13nT> 17
19:52 < daja77> you are welcome
19:52 < tfing> oh
19:52 < TrAns13nT> they refuse to bzip the iso's even if doing so could save dialup users 40 minutes to an hour
19:52 < TrAns13nT> but anyhow
19:53 < TrAns13nT> hows hows the package management work?
19:53 < daja77> TrAns13nT: don't want to disappoint you but rock works different than gentoo
19:54 < TrAns13nT> I'm always game to learn new stuff
19:54 < daja77> good
19:54 < daja77> maybe it is best to start with a precomiled iso
19:54 < TrAns13nT> anyhting that doesn't have a dev with his brainbox up his shitbox I'm willing to try (and sorry for the language)
19:55 < daja77> TrAns13nT: ???
19:55 < TrAns13nT> imo certain gentoo devs have their heads (brainbox) up the butt (shitbox)
19:55 < TrAns13nT> s/the/their
19:56 < daja77> TrAns13nT: don't explain your output, let's talk about something else, ok
19:56 < TrAns13nT> okily dokily
19:56 < TrAns13nT> what comes on the precompiled iso, and what architecture is it optimized for?
19:57 < capchaos> TrAns13nT, why not simply d/l the source tarball and start off playing around :)
19:57 < daja77> the isos containing almost everything, and I think it is unoptimized
19:57 < daja77> capchaos: cos I told her different
19:58 < TrAns13nT> capchaos right now I wanna learn a little bout how rock worx, was taold id *bsd like
19:58 < TrAns13nT> *it's
19:58 < daja77> capchaos: it is not so easy to play with rock if don't have it, you see
19:58 < daja77> TrAns13nT: ah nope, it is not quite like bsd
19:59 < TrAns13nT> good, cause i never used *bsd ;-)
19:59 < capchaos> daja77, it is not unoptimised.. you can optimise for your cpu, i.e. athlon-xp for me, that's one of the most important features of ROCK :)
19:59 < daja77> :)
19:59 < TrAns13nT> dl size ain't a problem for me, I get 30K/s
19:59 < daja77> capchaos: the isos!
19:59 < capchaos> daja77, aah.. aren't they optimised for i586 ?
19:59 < daja77> dunno
20:00 < capchaos> I am up to build ROCK 1.7 on a bock without ROCK... waiting for the sources to arrive :)
20:00 < kasc_> capchaos: do you count i586 as optimized? ;)
20:00 < daja77> capchaos: which distro?
20:00 < TrAns13nT> i586 is optimized perfect, for my p133 ;-)
20:01 * A-Tui is away: Quiero ir a Roma, a matar al Papa!
20:01 < capchaos> kasc_, yes! ;)
20:01 < necronomicon> These packages still don't build
20:01 < necronomicon> == 04/17/03 19:55:53 =[0]=> Aborted building package binutils.
20:01 < capchaos> daja77, no distro
20:01 < daja77> TrAns13nT: ftp://iso.rocklinux.de/dRock/unstable/2.0.0-alpha/
20:01 < necronomicon> /bin/sh ./../ylwrap "" arparse.y y.tab.c arparse.c y.tab.h arparse.h --  -d
20:01 < necronomicon> ./../ylwrap: line 86: -d: command not found
20:02 < TrAns13nT> yikes
20:02 < daja77> necronomicon: no flex and bison on your box, maybe
20:02 < TrAns13nT> kinda large iso's
20:02 < capchaos> daja77, TrAns13nT this is _not_ ROCK.. it is dRock.. a desktop target distribution derived from ROCK..
20:02 < TrAns13nT> no stages like gentoo has?
20:02 < daja77> TrAns13nT: you said it is no problem
20:02 < martin_> Hmm, hello. I have some problems with STONE in vmware with drock2.0.0-alpha
20:02 < daja77> capchaos: doesn't matter, it is rock, drock target
20:03 < TrAns13nT> I've used X maybe 3 hours in the last 2 weeks, and even then only ran irssi, and mc in it
20:03 < necronomicon> What else do I need, daja77?
20:03 < TrAns13nT> daja77 it's not, but if there is a smaller way to install I'
20:03 < TrAns13nT> daja77 it's not, but if there is a smaller way to install I'm all for that
20:03 < daja77> TrAns13nT: I fear not
20:04 < TrAns13nT> thats plenty ok
20:04 < kasc_> TrAns13nT: once you are used to rock there is a way...
20:04 < capchaos> TrAns13nT, if your current system is new enough and you have devfs enabled and some packages (i.e. curl..) installed, you can build it from your current distro... but you may encounter probs
20:04 < daja77> necronomicon: again do you have flex and bison installed on your box?
20:04 < TrAns13nT> chroot and devfs are your friends
20:05 < necronomicon> daja77: I just installed it
20:05 < TrAns13nT> and if I ain't got curl, it's just an emerge away
20:05 < daja77> necronomicon: then try again
20:05 < TrAns13nT> question though, seeing as how the iso's are kinda large, has the thought gone into bzipping them
20:05 < TrAns13nT> the 600mb iso, I bet 100mb's could get shaved by bzipping it
20:05 < daja77> TrAns13nT: ask rxr if he is back
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20:06 < TrAns13nT> i don't got dialup, but I used to, so I know how it feels
20:06 < blindcoder> TrAns13nT: 95% of the iso are asready bzip2'ed
20:06 < TrAns13nT> ok, thats cool
20:07 < daja77> blindcoder: sure, haven't seen that yet
20:07 < blindcoder> my local ROCK tree expands to almost 3 CDs now
20:07 < daja77> wow, how come
20:07 < blindcoder> ton of packages that are not in cliff's tree
20:08 < TrAns13nT> rock-ia32-i686-base+opt-1.6.0pre3.iso
20:08 < blindcoder> a handful of games and some other 'fun'-things
20:08 < TrAns13nT> would that be a good one to start with, I don't need X and a desktop right from the get
20:08 < daja77> TrAns13nT: plz don't use this one
20:08 < TrAns13nT> y not?
20:08 < daja77> blindcoder: maybe I should sync to your tree :)
20:08 < daja77> TrAns13nT: it is outdated
20:09 < blindcoder> daja77: as soon as the size drops to <50 failing packages :)
20:09 < necronomicon> daja77: Can I interrupt the build process, then install bison and so on, and then proceed?
20:09 < TrAns13nT> good enough reasion, but there are no files in the rock-1.7 directory
20:09 < blindcoder> necronomicon: yes, but the current package has to be restarted
20:09 < daja77> necronomicon: yes
20:09 < necronomicon> ok
20:10 * blindcoder continues playing Dungeon Keeper
20:10 < daja77> blindcoder: ok
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20:11 < necronomicon> The Cleanup script does only remove the compiling directory but not the binaries which were produced, doesn't it?
20:11 < TrAns13nT> daja77 the webpage says 1.6.0pre3 is the most current relase
20:12 < daja77> Cleanup -full removes the binaries too
20:12 < necronomicon> ok
20:12 < daja77> TrAns13nT: doesn't matter
20:13 < rolla> does the create ISO work in 1.7?
20:13 < daja77> rolla: yes
20:14 < rolla> then where does it put the ISO?
20:14 < daja77> $base
20:15 < rolla> and just what is that?
20:15 < TrAns13nT> tell ya what, I'll grab what I think i can manage, and if I got any questions I'll be back, how that sound
20:15 < daja77> TrAns13nT: but please use a current release
20:15 < blindcoder> rolla: /usr/src/rock-src-1.7 (or wherever it is)
20:16 < rolla> hmmm
20:16 < rolla> oh well good to see that 1.7 is broken just as much as ever
20:17 < TrAns13nT> daja77 from the website the only iso i can get it the 1.6.0pre3, theres nothign in 1.7.X in the link u cave me too, and I don't need X and desktop tools right from the start, I'd like to work my way up to X as I get a handle on how rack operates
20:17 < blindcoder> rolla: ??
20:17 < daja77> TrAns13nT: read the announcements on the page
20:18 < rxr> rolla: no it is not borken as ever!!! ...
20:18 < rolla> yes it is
20:18 < rolla> crap
20:19 < daja77> there is the alpha announcement from rene, you can follow that link and will find the url I gave you
20:19 < rxr> rolla: what is you 1.7 problem ???
20:20 < rxr> the iso create by Create-ISO is in the current working dir of you shell
20:20 < rolla> broken packages
20:20 < rxr> with the name you gave it via the first argument
20:20 < rxr> broken packages *lol*
20:20 < rxr> 602 builds total, 568 completed fine, 34 with errors.
20:20 < rolla> yeah well I am not happy right now with 1.7
20:21 < rolla> rxr you using cvs version?
20:21 < rxr> I only use CVS - how should I do development without CVS ???
20:21 < blindcoder> rolla: it's kinda impossible to please everyone. I'm not happy with a few minor parts of ROCK either.
20:22 < blindcoder> ROCK 1.7
20:22 < rolla> blindcoder: 1.7 has never built for me ever
20:22 < martin_> rxr: hi, which module do I have to load in vmware for drock2.0.0-alpha ?
20:22 < rolla> I can build 1.5.x everytime
20:22 < TrAns13nT> whats this I hear about floppies?'
20:22 < blindcoder> rolla: erm... I'm running 1.7 for 4-6 months now...
20:22 < daja77> TrAns13nT: ???
20:22 < rolla> blindcoder: how many changes did you have to make to source to get it to build first time?
20:22 < rxr> hi martin_
20:23 < rxr> buslogic or so ...
20:23 < blindcoder> rolla: hmm... maybe 3
20:23 < rolla> okay I will go back to it
20:23 < rolla> but it seems I make fixes then they stay broken forever ;)
20:23 < blindcoder> current ROCK-1.7-CVS is a matter ofscripts/Download, scripts/Config, scripts/Build-Target, done
20:23 < rxr> martin_: https://www.rocklinux.org//rolling/2003-01/page3.html
20:24 < rolla> I guess I am just pissed cause me back hurts and my build died again :)
20:24 < rxr> read this article in our ROLLING ROCK magazine ...
20:24 < rolla> back to hacking :)
20:24 < TrAns13nT> the person that recopmmended rock tald me to get the floppy when I told em 5.5 hours to dl the iso, are there floppies, or is he mistaken?
20:24 < rxr> TrAns13nT: there are floppies
20:24 < rxr> TrAns13nT: BUT on a machine from the last 7 years you want to use an CD !!!!!!
20:25 < TrAns13nT> floppies dl much fater then 600mb's iso's
20:25 < TrAns13nT> and I'm not a complete n00b, I been using linux for a few years now
20:25 < daja77> *argh* just do the download if you have broadband access
20:25 < rxr> err you need the CD anyway
20:25 < rxr> how would you like to install 500 packages from floppies ?
20:26 < martin_> rxr: I have read it. I have no modul like BusLogic.
20:26 < TrAns13nT> why would I need the cd anyway, why provide floppies if the cd is required
20:26 < TrAns13nT> wget is your friend
20:26 < TrAns13nT> and i already have lots of source on my hd
20:26 < daja77> TrAns13nT: cos not every pc boots from cd
20:26 < rxr> martin_: maybe you need to select the load SCSI modules when your box booted stage1 from the CD
20:27 < rxr> TrAns13nT: *lol* wgetting the packages doesn't make such a difference to wgetting the ISO ...
20:27 < TrAns13nT> good enough reason to have floppies i guess
20:27 < rxr> the floppies are for old boxes unable to boot from CD
20:28 < daja77> as I told her *sigh*
20:28 < TrAns13nT> rxr i'd much rather wget one pacakge at a time as I build the system then spen 5.5 hours dling them all at once, especially since I prolly have 90% of the same sources already on my hd
20:28 < rxr> TrAns13nT: if you only do a small installations wgetting 10 packages is faster ... sure - but the network install is not finished yet
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20:29 < rxr> TrAns13nT: do the download and read a book until it finished.
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20:29 < rxr> you would need some coffee or an book during the 5 hour single package download either ...
20:30 < TrAns13nT> Warning: You should only try to build ROCK Linux if you have already some skills in software development and system administration.
20:30 < TrAns13nT> If you build it yourself, you only need to download a single tar.bz2 containing the ROCK Linux sources. This archive contains our './scripts/Download' script which can be used to download the packages sources from one of our FTP mirrors.
20:30 < TrAns13nT> thats me right there
20:31 < daja77> TrAns13nT: erhm yes but you'll need a suitable distro to build it
20:31 < TrAns13nT> define suitable
20:31 < daja77> defvs supportm recent mktemp
20:32 < TrAns13nT> got devfs support already, is mktemp a package?
20:32 < capchaos> yeah
20:32 < daja77> TrAns13nT: enter mktemp -p and tell me if this option is supported
20:32 < TrAns13nT> lemme boot it up real fast
20:33 < TrAns13nT> and if it's not, it's only a few command away from being installed
20:33 < rxr> TrAns13nT: when you like to build ROCK - why do you bother me with a full bootable binary ISO ???
20:33 < daja77> rxr: sorry my fault
20:33 < TrAns13nT> i never asked specifically for a full bianry iso, I asked for details
20:34 < rxr> daja77: hm ok ;-) ...
20:34 < daja77> TrAns13nT: consider doin a cvs checkout, it is better than the tarball
20:34 < rxr> TrAns13nT: aside from reading the docu ...:
20:34 < rxr> do:
20:34 < rxr> ./scripts/Config
20:34 < rxr> select what you want (AND DO NOT DISABLE THE PSEUDO CROSS COMPILER !!!)
20:34 < rxr> ./scripts/Download -required
20:35 < martin_> rxr: When i "load kernel scsi modules from this disk" (2), i become this message: "Can't start /insmod!"
20:36 < rxr> ohh :-(
20:36 < rxr> which iso?
20:36 < martin_> drock2.0.0-alpha-cd1 ..
20:37 < rxr> hm haven't i successfully installed that iso in vmware ?!?!
20:37 < TrAns13nT> booting the machine now
20:37 < rxr> TrAns13nT: why booting ?
20:38 < TrAns13nT> i dual boot, and I'm booting my linux partitons in vmware, I keep at least one running working operating system and vmware in each to install others with so the machine isn't completely down while an os installs
20:39 < rxr> ah
20:40 < TrAns13nT> then if I need somethign from windows inside linux, I just boot in in vmware, same with if I need some from linux while in doze
20:41 < TrAns13nT> and I can still do other things, like install, and ask questions at the same time
20:41 < TrAns13nT> demoness /root# mktemp -p
20:41 < TrAns13nT> mktemp: option requires an argument -- p
20:42 < TrAns13nT> Usage: mktemp [-dgtu] [-p prefix] [template]
20:42 < TrAns13nT> taht good enough to get the job done?
20:42 < TrAns13nT> and it's -gqtu, not dgtu
20:42 < TrAns13nT> grrr, u get the idea
20:43 < necronomicon> What is i686-pc-linux-gnu-ar?
20:43 < TrAns13nT> shoudn't be no ar on the end of that i don't think'
20:46 < TrAns13nT> ok, reading the isntall docs on the webpage, beggining the installation process, will yell if I need any assistance
20:46 < necronomicon> wtf ...
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20:47 < TrAns13nT> i686-pc-linux-gnu should all it should be afaik'
20:47 < necronomicon> hm no
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20:47 < necronomicon> don't think so
20:48 < TrAns13nT> then whats the -ar
20:48 < necronomicon> i link /usr/bin/ar to /usr/bin/i686-pc-linux-gnu-ar
20:49 < TrAns13nT> liek I said, I could be wrong, but I've never seen an -ar appended to the end of i686-pc-linux-gbu
20:51 < rxr> necronomicon: ar -> gnu assembler ...
20:51 < rxr> this is a cross assembler
20:52 < rxr> err archiver even
20:52 < rxr> not assembler ...
20:52 < rxr> can s.o. other do install support here? I'm busy developing ....
20:52 < rxr> martin_: I'm writing the powerpc boot code - it is nearly finished.
20:53 < rxr> martin_: if all goes well you could try a preliminary cd in your iBook ;-)
20:55 < martin_> rxr: that is beautiful, thanks
20:57 < rxr> martin_: do you know how to get into  the open-fw? Pressing o f and what control key was this (I already tried many ...) ?
20:58 < martin_> rxr: i think the apple-key ... test it?!
20:59 < rxr> hm
20:59 < rxr> this was my first try ... :-(
21:00 < rxr> Then alt then control ...
21:00 < rxr> nothing
21:01 < rxr> Ahh
21:01 < rxr> Command-Option-O-F
21:01 < martin_> I do not want to know it.
21:02 < rxr> but what is option?
21:02 < rxr> martin_: what don't you wanna know?
21:02 < necronomicon> w00t!
21:02 < necronomicon> it works
21:05 < martin_> I don't want know how I get into the open-fw, because I'm a playing child. That's not good.
21:14 * A-Tui is away: Trabajando (que asco!)
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21:28 < TrAns13nT> just a note, in the installaiotn guide it should say irc.openprojects.net channel #rocklinux and not irc.openprojects.net channel rocklinux  under the Cumminty part
21:28 < capchaos> And irc.freenode.net rather than irc.openprojects.net
21:28 < TrAns13nT> cause some irc cl;ients will allow you to join rocklinux and they wouldn't be here if they tried that
21:28 < capchaos> TrAns13nT, send in a patch ;)
21:28 < TrAns13nT> jsut noticed that myself
21:28 < TrAns13nT> wouldn't know where to send it
21:29 < TrAns13nT> and I don't no how to write patches
21:29 < TrAns13nT> s/no/know'
21:29 < capchaos> https://www.rocklinux.de/sources/Documentation/Developers/PATCHES
21:30 < TrAns13nT> if I get around to it, I book markes the page
21:30 < capchaos> https://www.rocklinux.de/mailing-list/
21:30 < TrAns13nT> my typing is horrible today
21:31 < TrAns13nT> swell, i'm about to start to attempt rock, wish me luck
21:32 < capchaos> Luck? Good success!
21:33 * TrAns13nT is a leet system hoser'
21:33 < TrAns13nT> ;-)
21:33 < TrAns13nT> so something is gonna happe one way or the other ;-)
21:34 < capchaos> fault is your friend!
21:36 < TrAns13nT> true, learn faster from mistakes then accidently getting it right
21:37 < daja77> re
21:37 < capchaos> re daja77
21:37 < TrAns13nT> whats re mean?
21:37 < capchaos> returned
21:38 < TrAns13nT> oic
21:44 < TrAns13nT> can I get a breif description on the Use tmpfs for building option, like how is it different from not using a tempfs for building?
21:50 < necronomicon> ?
21:50 < necronomicon> -> read the hansbook
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21:52 < TrAns13nT> i got that open, and where I've gotten to in it it doesn't give a description a discription of the Config options, and the ncurses Config stuff say there is no help for that option
21:58 < martin_> gn8 all
21:58 < daja77> gn8 martin_
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21:59 < daja77> TrAns13nT: which option you are talking about?
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22:06 < praenti> hi
22:06 < daja77> hi praenti
22:06 < necronomicon> ping
22:07 < daja77> necronomicon: who?
22:07 < blindcoder> I like Ethernet :)
22:07 < necronomicon> my connection
22:07 < necronomicon> ;)
22:07 < daja77> blindcoder: ??
22:07 < necronomicon> base/linux24 compiles everything
22:07 * blindcoder just took his DSL-cable out of the snwitch and into his PC without the connection getting terminated :)
22:08 * praenti has now backspace working on apollo
22:08 < praenti> looks like TERM=nxterm is unknown
22:08 < blindcoder> praenti: *lol*
22:08 < blindcoder> praenti: stty?
22:08 < blindcoder> TERM=screen?
22:08 < praenti> blindcoder: yes in the screen. but when i start a screen from a shell where term=nxterm screens runs amok
22:10 < blindcoder> strange
22:10 < blindcoder> what about fixing your $TERM? :)
22:11 * praenti is here again in a few minutes
22:11 < praenti> blindcoder: have done that, and backspace is working
22:11 < blindcoder> good :)
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22:11 < blindcoder> that's what he calls 'working'...
22:11 < daja77> running (away)
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22:12 < praenti> and here again
22:12 < blindcoder> praenti: "working"? erm...
22:12 < blindcoder> anyways, /me going watching Anime
22:12 < blindcoder> baba
22:12 < blindcoder> away gone
22:12 < praenti> bye blindcoder
22:12 < daja77> bye blindcoder
22:13 < necronomicon> bye blindcoder
22:13 < necronomicon> ?
22:14 < necronomicon> Why is everything of the kernel compiled?
22:14 < daja77> define everything
22:14 < necronomicon> every part of the kernel
22:14 < praenti> ok. im also going to bed. cu
22:15 * praenti away
22:15 < daja77> gn8 praenti
22:15 < necronomicon> ?
22:16 < necronomicon> I can't config the kernel
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22:24 < rolla> someone needs to fix the rock 1.7 mirrors
22:24 < daja77> rolla: yeah sounds like a nice idea
22:24 < rolla> :)
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22:26 < rolla> maybe I switch to use KDE
22:27 < bluefire> do that
22:27 * bluefire away
22:27 < daja77> rolla: stop pulling my leg ;)
22:28 < necronomicon> I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed my madness
22:28 < necronomicon> by
22:30 < rolla> daja77: I am not pulling your leg
22:30 < rolla> I will try out this new ISO 1.7 on my laptop
22:31 < daja77> rolla: you said you wanted to use KDE some weeks ago, and were just joking around
22:32 < rolla> yes that is true
22:32 < rolla> I am still not a big fan but hey I give them a chance
22:32 < daja77> :)
22:35 < rolla> daja77: are you learning arabic?
22:36 < daja77> rolla: I did
22:36 < rolla> ?
22:36 < rolla> you are done?
22:37 < daja77> you could say so if you like
22:37 < rolla> how much do you know?
22:38 < daja77> I can read it a bit, and speak a bit :(
22:39 < rolla> why did you stop learning?
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22:40 < daja77> well university cancelled the courses
22:40 < rolla> warum?
22:40 < daja77> dunno, they are stupid when dealing with languages
22:41 < rolla> nod
22:42 < daja77> they even cancelled spanish
22:42 < rolla> ??
22:42 < rolla> very odd are they short on cash?
22:42 < daja77> yeah maybe that
22:42 < rolla> or lack of intrest
22:43 < daja77> anyway I can continue speaking arab in the arab club
22:43 < rolla> :)
22:43 < rolla> any native speakers there?
22:44 < daja77> the teacher is from bahrain
22:44 < rolla> ah
22:44 < daja77> she is funny ;)
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23:09 < rolla> has anyone here used cups to print a NT printer spool?
23:09 < daja77> no, only know that you need samba + cups or so
23:17 < rolla> :)
23:17 < rolla> I figured it out thanks
23:17 < daja77> hehe, np
23:26 < rolla> crap someone updated the rock 1.7 cvs and did not put the files on the mirrors :(
23:26 < daja77> use mirror none *g*
23:27 < rolla> ?
23:27 < capchaos> ./scripts/Download -mirror none
23:28 < daja77> capchaos: disabled, but you can put none into src/Download-Mirror to get it working
23:28 < capchaos> disabled? why that?
23:29 < daja77> read cliffords mails on that
23:29 < tfing> capchaos: did i send you a notice ?
23:29 < rolla> if I disable where does it get the files from?
23:29 < capchaos> tfing, dunno...
23:29 < tfing> something strange happened
23:30 < daja77> original download location
23:30 < rolla> oh
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23:32 < rolla> The option '-mirror none' is not supported anymore!
23:32 < daja77> do it like they suggest in the message
23:33 < rolla> I am
23:33 < daja77> :)
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23:48 < daja77> hey A-Tui
23:48 < A-Tui> hola daja77
23:48 < A-Tui> i'm back
23:48 < daja77> good
23:48 < daja77> A-Tui: do you know where Mike1 is?
23:48 < A-Tui> mmm no, but yesterday he said something like "see you in some days" so...
23:49 < A-Tui> i supposed that he is enjoinig her holidays
23:49 < daja77> he told me that he wanted to code over th easter weekend
23:49 < daja77> the even
23:50 < A-Tui> mmmmi don't know then, perhaps he is close in a room coding :)
23:50 < daja77> :)
23:50 < A-Tui> with a electrical coffe maker of course
23:51 < daja77> coffee pipeline
23:51 < A-Tui> :)
23:52 < daja77> finished your rock install?
23:52 < A-Tui> no, it's building gnome now
23:52 < daja77> which stage?
23:52 < A-Tui> but i have only 255 mg :)
23:52 < A-Tui> stage 5
23:52 < daja77> uh bad news
23:53 < kasc_> woohoo! my first package with full menu support within Config is finished and works :)
23:54 < A-Tui> yes, i think that tomorrow i will need to make magic with my hd
23:54 < A-Tui> kasc_: congrats :)
23:54 < daja77> kasc_: which package
23:55 < A-Tui> i have almost 6 broken packages :/
23:56 < kasc_> daja77: openal
23:56 < A-Tui> what's openal?
23:56 < kasc_> hopefully the last needed package needed by vegastrike
23:56 < daja77> kasc_: hehe, cool
23:57 < kasc_> its a sound library by lokigames
23:57 < A-Tui> ah great
23:58 < A-Tui> mmmm onsgml can't validate my docbook file :(
23:59 < daja77> why
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23:59 < A-Tui> i don't know, he say "end tag for "SECT2" which is no finished"
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