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--- Log opened Mon May 05 00:00:44 2003 --- Day changed Mon May 05 2003 00:01 < rxr> daja77: perl5 should not fail (IIRC) 00:01 < daja77> it did... 00:04 -!- gsuveg [~gsuveg@nilus-1087.adsl.datanet.hu] has quit ("Unix isn't just #include <linux.h>, i386, ILP32, ELF, ...!") 00:05 < daja77> rxr: the build itself was fine, but problems with postinstall hook 00:05 < daja77> anyway have to go to bed now, cu 00:13 < rxr> cu daja77 00:22 < mlw> cu daja77 00:37 < esden> hi all 00:38 < tsa> hm.. 00:38 < tsa> [mlw] (~root@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl) 00:38 < tsa> i hope you're not really using root.. 00:41 < mlw> tsa : live dangerous. 00:41 < _NULL_> gn7 00:42 < _NULL_> aeh. gn0 i mean 00:42 < _NULL_> *AAAAAAAAAARGH* gn8 00:43 < esden> lool ... good night _NULL_ 00:43 < esden> tsa: do you know/have nice exploits for that? :-> 00:43 < tsa> esden: hehe 00:43 -!- mlw [~root@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has left #rocklinux () 00:44 < tsa> hm.... 00:44 < esden> hmpf 00:44 * tsa giggles 00:44 < esden> tsa: we scared him/her out ... 00:44 < tsa> seems so.. 00:48 < esden> does anyone of you have vmware running on rocklinux? 00:50 < tsa> not currently.. 00:51 < esden> hmpf ... I installed it but it says that it is not propperly configured even though I have run vmware-config.pl 00:51 < esden> and when I want to rerun it it hangs 00:51 < esden> without giving any output 00:52 -!- ringo [~ringo@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux 00:52 < esden> hi ringo 00:52 < ringo> hi esden now I am not r00t user ... 00:53 < esden> good ;-) 00:53 < esden> well done 00:57 < ringo> thx 01:00 < rxr> hi esden tsa ;-) 01:00 < tsa> hi rxr 01:00 < rxr> what do you both think abou my just halfly done reconstruction at: 01:00 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.org/projects/drock/ 01:01 < esden> hi rxr 01:01 < rxr> esden: I used vmware (latest beta) with 2.4.20 - but it does not work with my current 2.4.21-rc1 kernel 01:02 < esden> humm ... ok ... I have a full 3.2.0 version here ... 01:02 < esden> I will test the beta 01:03 < rxr> esden: cliff has some rolling rock article about vmware ... 01:03 < rxr> and make sure teh device node is created the vmware stuff doesn't seem to be devfs aware ... 01:03 < esden> ack 01:04 < tsa> rxr: your screenshots suck, but the site looks ok....did i ever mention i don't like KDE? ;-)) 01:05 -!- senaxl [~senaxl@p508271A4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("nacht..") 01:05 < rxr> tsa: yes - the screenshot page is slightly puzzled - I'm currently still soring the content ... 01:06 < rxr> tsa: ACK - but I think KDE is the DE with the cleanest code, best structured, ... 01:06 < esden> tsa: do not say anything against my dualhead screenshot! >_< 01:06 < esden> it is not KDE 01:07 < tsa> rxr: i've heard lots of bad things about KDE coding style, but never had a look myself. 01:07 < tsa> i've had a look at gnome sources, though. 01:07 < tsa> awful. 01:08 < tsa> (and gnome 2.x is too much eye-candy for me) 01:08 < rxr> jups - kde is magnitudes cleaner coded 01:09 < rxr> (and I used Gtk-- for GSMP myself - but we throw this away in favour of EVAS) 01:09 < tsa> i'm using gnome 1.4 here - basically only the panel and galeon.. 01:10 < tsa> ctwm at work. 01:10 < esden> rxr: hehe 01:10 < esden> rxr: but why not ewl? 01:11 < tsa> what's ewl? 01:11 < rxr> esden: it does not fit our needs ... 01:11 < esden> tsa: widget set based on evas, ecore and the other libs from e17 01:11 < tsa> hm........ 01:11 < tsa> ...... 01:12 < esden> ? 01:12 < esden> lots of dots ... hmm 01:17 < Lorini> hi all 01:17 < Lorini> and re 01:17 < tsa> hi Lorini 01:22 -!- george [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 01:23 < ringo> n8 all 01:23 * ringo is away: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 01:35 -!- ringo [~ringo@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.2.4") 01:41 < esden> good night everyone 01:43 < ringo78> n8 esden 01:44 < tsa> cu esden 01:52 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Real Life is just an illusion caused by IRC deprivation") 02:21 < rxr> erhm - I'm getting crazy !!! 02:22 < rxr> some recent change merged from cliff broke the whole treee 02:22 < rxr> how should I get a -beta out with another broken thing slipping into the tree each day ?!? 02:23 * rxr reverting the lateast pkg_* fluff 02:29 < rxr> Committed revision 113. 02:35 < tsa> n8 02:35 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9E12FC3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("*plopp*") 02:37 -!- mnemoc [~mnemoc@200.75.27.18] has quit ("Leaving") 02:53 < rxr> 02:57:05 up 1 day, 2:34, 2 users, load average: 2.93, 2.44, 1.84 02:54 < rxr> Linux version 2.5.68 (root@jackson) (gcc version 3.2.2) #2 Sun May 4 00:20:13 CEST 2003 02:54 < rxr> I guess it would die sooner -but not a single prob so far :-( and much smoother than 2.4.21-rc1 ... 02:54 < rxr> n8 cu 02:57 < george> hi there. 02:58 < george> rxr: did you had the time to look into svn auth management? 03:00 < rxr> george: jups - need to be done via pre-commit hooks 03:00 < rxr> I'll do this soon 03:01 < rxr> Linus Torvalds <to Linux 2.5.69 03:02 < rxr> NOTE! As of this release I think I'll want to have patches either be 03:02 < rxr> _really_ obvious, or they should go through one of more people for 03:02 < rxr> approval. In particular, I'm hoping that the paperwork stuff with Andrew 03:02 < rxr> should be getting closer to finalized, and that we could start moving over 03:02 < rxr> towards a 2.6.x release schedule.. 03:02 < rxr> Linus 03:02 < george> rxr: I stumbled across some scripts in the source tar, that are not installed, 03:02 < george> namely subversion/tools/hook-scripts/commit-access-control* 03:03 < rxr> jups - they have some templates / examples in the tar-ball 03:04 < george> perhaps with a new homepage we could also have a patches database? 03:04 < rxr> ok - cu today (after some sleep) 03:04 < george> do so 03:04 < rxr> cu 03:04 < rxr> n8 03:05 < george> I'll donna align my damned laser, no sleep in sight... 03:05 < george> cu 03:05 < george> n8 04:51 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M277P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:03 -!- george [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 06:50 < blindcoder> moin 06:51 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M317P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 06:52 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M317P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Client Quit) 06:59 -!- Brainbeer [~Brainbeer@ip68-1-249-154.dl.dl.cox.net] has joined #rocklinux 06:59 < Brainbeer> anyone here? 07:00 < blindcoder> wore or less 07:00 < Brainbeer> ok..got a question about rock linux 07:01 < Brainbeer> is it better to download an iso or build from source? 07:01 < Brainbeer> btw Im new to source based distros 07:01 < blindcoder> if you do't have a running ROCK Linux and/or a slow machine, get an iso 07:02 < Brainbeer> ok, im getting rock-ia32-i686-base+opt-1.6.0pre3.iso 07:02 < Brainbeer> is that a good one to get? 07:03 < blindcoder> don't use 1.6.0 it's deprecated. 07:03 < Brainbeer> so which do i use? 07:03 < blindcoder> Use a 1.7 ISO if available or wait a ffew weeks until 2.0 is released 07:04 < blindcoder> 1.6 is missing a lot of things that are in 2.0 (stability, for one) 07:04 < Brainbeer> it says on the sit 1.7 is unstable 07:04 < blindcoder> it's called "unstable" but de facto it is more stable than the 1.6 branch ATM 07:04 < Brainbeer> ok, ill get that one then 07:06 < Brainbeer> im not able to get it 07:06 < blindcoder> https://drocklinux.dyndns.org/ftp/drock/unstable/2.0-00-Technology-Preview2/ 07:06 < blindcoder> there it is 07:07 < blindcoder> dunno why it hasn't been uploaded to iso.rocklinux.de 07:07 < Brainbeer> cool..ty 07:07 < blindcoder> np 07:08 < Brainbeer> should i get the 2.0 or the 1.7? 07:08 < Brainbeer> im used to mandrake so im still unsure about some tings 07:10 < blindcoder> 1.7 will become 2.0 once stable 07:10 < blindcoder> should be within a few weeks 07:10 < Brainbeer> ok 07:10 < Brainbeer> so go with 1.7 for now? 07:10 < blindcoder> actually was scheduled for release last month, but got delayed (of course :) by some packages 07:10 < blindcoder> yes 07:11 < Brainbeer> ok..im getting both cds now... 07:11 < Brainbeer> are there any docs on the site? 07:11 < Brainbeer> on installation or configuration? 07:11 < blindcoder> mom 07:12 < Brainbeer> nevermind 07:12 < Brainbeer> i didnt look good enough the first time 07:12 < blindcoder> okay :) 07:27 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M317P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 07:30 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M317P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Client Quit) 07:30 -!- Brainbeer [~Brainbeer@ip68-1-249-154.dl.dl.cox.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 07:52 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M317P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 08:42 < rxr> blindcoder: NO! 08:42 < rxr> which ISO do you download ? 08:42 < rxr> the 1.7-19c3 are outdated 08:42 < rxr> the 2.0.0-alpha is _oviously_ the latestst !!! 08:43 < blindcoder> that was the 2.0.0 08:43 < blindcoder> the one I linked 08:43 < blindcoder> TP2 aka Night Vision 08:46 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802822.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:46 < rxr> erh - a yes (I have not scrolled back enought) 08:47 < rxr> there was a -beta after this ... 08:47 < rxr> :-( 08:47 < blindcoder> no problem :) 08:49 < rxr> yeah - but the beta is much smoother to install and has many bug-fixes 08:49 < blindcoder> hmm... maybe I didn't read it on the list... 08:50 < blindcoder> or just forgot it >_< 09:02 < daja77> re 09:08 < netrunner> moin 09:10 < daja77> moin netrunner 09:13 * daja77 goin to work cu 09:13 < netrunner> cu daja 09:29 < _NULL_> morning 09:31 < blindcoder> moin nully 09:32 < netrunner> wonderful. now build failed because of no space left. I seem to try every possible error ;) 09:32 < _NULL_> *lol* poor netrunner 09:33 < blindcoder> netrunner: then please report the bug. maybe someone is able to fix it by sending you a 80GB hard disk :D 09:33 < netrunner> is there a script that removes old versions in download/ ? 09:33 < esden> morning 09:34 < blindcoder> ./scripts-Domnload -list-missing | tr ' ' '^I' | cut -f3 | xargs rm -rf 09:34 < netrunner> hi esden, get up to mrs steger! ;) 09:34 < blindcoder> moin esden 09:34 < netrunner> thx blind 09:34 < blindcoder> netrunner: replace ^I by a tab (^V<tab>) 09:34 < esden> netrunner: >_< 09:35 < _NULL_> hi esden 09:35 < esden> I am in some minutes on my way to her .... with a big fat book ... MUAHAHAHA 09:35 < blindcoder> esden: to smash it on her head? :D 09:35 < esden> blindcoder: ack 09:36 < _NULL_> esden: whois mrs steger? 09:36 < esden> my DS2 professor 09:37 < _NULL_> DS2? 09:38 < netrunner> null: discrete structures. 09:38 < blindcoder> esden: you still haven't given up on studying? :D 09:38 < netrunner> null: about gambling an catching trains ;) 09:39 < _NULL_> *lol* 09:39 < blindcoder> esden: btw.: Online Banking is fully functional atm :D 09:40 < esden> blindcoder: :P ... but I still have only 8 eur on my bank account 09:41 < blindcoder> esden: hmm... okay >_< 09:42 < esden> how high is the probability that owl will get train today ... 09:42 < esden> that is something what mrs steger could answer ... 09:42 < blindcoder> he, even _I_ can answer ths 09:43 < esden> and? 09:43 < blindcoder> hell, everyone who had to go by Deutsche Bahn for 2 months could answer this 09:43 < esden> hehe 09:43 < _NULL_> esden: it's very, very bad... because i already missed two trains today... and the 3rd will fail - for sure. or will be delayed for hours 09:43 < _NULL_> blindcoder: ack 09:44 < esden> ok ... I am off you train junkies ;-) 09:44 < _NULL_> have fun, esden :p cya 09:44 < blindcoder> bye esdi 09:51 < netrunner> ok, I guess I'll give him company :) bye 09:52 < _NULL_> have fun, too, netrunner - bye 09:57 < blindcoder> okay just reached EOF (End of Fruehstueck [breakfast]) 09:58 < _NULL_> tststs 09:58 < fake> mornin 09:59 < _NULL_> hi fake 09:59 < blindcoder> moin fake 09:59 < blindcoder> *MUAHAHAHA* 09:59 < blindcoder> https://bash.org/?370 10:00 < _NULL_> .oO(why did i expect a bash.org url from blindcoder ? ) 10:01 < fake> blindcoder : *rofl* good one 10:01 < fake> i am with stupid 10:01 < blindcoder> _NULL_: beats me :) 10:02 < fake> uh, havin' a cigarette 10:03 < fake> SMP: you here? 10:17 < Lorini> moin moin 10:23 < rxr> moin Lorini 10:25 < _NULL_> hi rxr 10:28 < blindcoder> moin Lori 10:28 < blindcoder> damn... I h8 stupid customers >_< 10:30 < Lorini> moin rxr, blindcoder 10:48 < fake> hi Lorini, rxr 11:00 < Lorini> great. i just threw a bottle of milk over my desk.. 11:02 < blindcoder> https://news.com.com/2100-1041_3-999509.html <-- sorry, but that's just sic 11:02 < blindcoder> k 11:03 < blindcoder> okay, I'm off to lunch now. bbl 11:21 < blindcoder> back 11:47 < daja77> re 11:48 < Lorini> re 11:49 < daja77> hi Lorini 11:50 < daja77> my machine at home hung up connection >_< 12:00 < _NULL_> <-- going to die (aka: office meeting) bbl (or maybe not) 12:24 < daja77> *lool* Montag, 5. Mai: SuSE@GIGA HELP 12:24 < blindcoder> daja77: that fits together :D 12:24 < daja77> ack 12:25 * daja77 just found out that he is still subscribed to suse announce list >_< 12:25 < blindcoder> hehe 12:25 < blindcoder> I ocassionally read suse-user :) 12:26 * daja77 gets suse-security 12:26 < daja77> blindcoder: why, for fun? 12:26 < blindcoder> daja77: yes. Nothing like a good flame-war reading every now and then 12:27 < daja77> ack that's why I sometimes read de.comp.security.firewall 12:28 < daja77> full of zonealarm and norton idiots 12:28 < blindcoder> hmm... would have to install a newsreader for that :D 12:28 < daja77> get slrn, it's cool, or use google 12:29 < daja77> Live im GIGA HELP-Studio: SuSE-Supporter 12:29 < daja77> Hendrik Vogelsang. 12:29 < blindcoder> I've heard that name before 12:30 < daja77> yeah I just can't remember a face 12:30 * daja77 would like to see lmb there *har har* 12:50 * daja77 decided to buy a mp3 player only if it has ogg support 12:50 < blindcoder> that would make it an ogg player, wouldn't it? 12:51 < daja77> *rotfl* there is a tag to crash ie 12:51 < daja77> blindcoder: there is at least one player which can do both 12:51 < blindcoder> yeah 12:51 < blindcoder> daja77: sweet. link? 12:51 < daja77> it's heise, anyway? 12:52 < daja77> https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/wst-03.05.03-001/ 12:53 < blindcoder> I meant the player :) 12:53 < daja77> hehe ok *searching* 12:55 < daja77> https://www.neurosaudio.com/ 12:57 < _NULL_> re 12:58 < _NULL_> <-- not dead ;p 12:59 < daja77> blindcoder: what do you think? 13:00 < blindcoder> daja77: I might buy it in spring if the VaporWare turns into SoftWare 13:00 < blindcoder> wb _NULL_ 13:00 < daja77> blindcoder: ack 13:01 < daja77> the funny thing is that that other vendors promised ogg support right after their announcement *g* 13:01 < blindcoder> muahaha 13:03 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:34 < esden> re hi all 13:34 < _NULL_> re esden 13:34 < daja77> hi esden 13:34 < blindcoder> wb esden 13:35 < esden> puhh ... it was not a car I drive in, it was a oven 13:35 < blindcoder> muahaha 13:35 < esden> at least it is not yet hot in my cell ;-) 13:35 < esden> blindcoder: you have klima in your car so shut up 13:36 * daja77 has klima at work 13:36 < esden> my uni is also beeing klimatized or how it is spelled 13:36 < daja77> air conditioned 13:36 < esden> ahh yes 13:37 * -> esden getting of his shoues so get some gas masks guys 13:37 * daja77 grabs a gasmask 13:37 * blindcoder closes his windews at the other end of the city esden currently is in 13:38 < daja77> damn kernel compiles takes that long 13:38 < esden> blindcoder: hmm ... the people on the street are all falling to earth ... strange ... 13:38 < _NULL_> <-- meeting 13:39 < daja77> _NULL_: again? 13:39 < blindcoder> esden: MUAHAHAHA 13:39 < esden> daja77: _NULL_ is an importaint person ... 13:39 < daja77> ahh yess, good to know 13:44 < esden> hmm ... I really do not know what to say to the redesign topic ... 13:44 < esden> I think I simply wait till it is done ... ;-) 13:44 * netrunner is in class without shoes ... and lots of space to left and right *gg* 13:44 < esden> and shut up 13:44 < esden> netrunner: tztztz 13:45 < esden> netrunner: so that was that strange smell in the uni ;-) 13:45 < netrunner> esden: .. and the reason why you skipped bs, hey? ;) 13:46 * netrunner -> home, prof feels sick ;) 13:46 < esden> I was there ... but I left because someone called me and I thought that it was importaint ... and as I already left I went home 13:46 < esden> netrunner: lool 13:47 < esden> netrunner: and I heared this bm menagment stuff already last year ... 13:47 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M317P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:50 < esden> hmm ... interesting ... I have mp3's I was not aware of ... nice 13:50 < daja77> esden: tell me more 13:50 < blindcoder> dammit... he noticed the FTP-loopback-connection :P 13:51 < esden> DJ Arne L II - Grave Diggers have more fun 13:51 < esden> it is techno 13:51 < esden> groove trance I would say 13:51 < daja77> oh no 13:51 < esden> daja77: :P 13:52 < esden> daja77: if you come to RLDM you will hear enough techno ... ;-) 13:52 < esden> clifford likes it too ;-) 13:52 * daja77 thinks over it... 13:53 < esden> daja77: belive me you will survive that 13:53 < esden> daja77: and there are other things that make much more fun ... like discussing rock issues 13:54 < daja77> hehe ok 13:55 < daja77> you mean talking about that broken tree... 13:56 < esden> o_O 13:56 < daja77> aka rock linux 13:57 < esden> :P 13:57 < esden> why broken? 13:57 < daja77> do I really have to explain 13:58 < esden> yes it seems so 13:58 < daja77> WEEEE kernel package builds with modified rtai patch 13:58 < esden> daja77: congrats 13:59 < daja77> thx 14:00 < esden> outside of rock on inside? 14:00 < daja77> ?? 14:00 < esden> you compiled with ./scripts/Build-Pkg or make bzImage? 14:01 < daja77> ./scripts/Build-Pkg 14:01 < esden> ahh good 14:01 * -> esden updating his tree 14:01 < daja77> ahem i haven't committed anything 14:01 < esden> yes I know ;-) 14:02 < esden> when will you commit? 14:02 < daja77> hmm dunno, working on rtai package right now 14:05 < daja77> rtai package still breaks >_< 14:06 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M340P024.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 14:08 < rxr> an reburning the yet to be released -beta the 12th time .. 14:08 < daja77> hi rxr 14:10 < esden> hi rxr 14:10 < esden> rxr: cdrw? 14:10 < rxr> this -beta thing gets me crazy ... I never needed soo many test-circles to produce an working ISO :-( 14:10 < rxr> esden: sure ! 14:10 < esden> rxr: somehow I can not burn cdrw >_< 14:10 < esden> they are empty after the burn 14:10 < rxr> i would use vmware - but it is broken here again ... 14:11 < rxr> esden: I have other problems - sometimes the cdrw can not be blanked again ... 14:11 < rxr> (no not a high-speed issue) 14:11 < esden> hmm ... 14:11 < esden> ok ... I take a shower 14:11 < rxr> but this only seems to happen with expensive quality media 14:11 < rxr> I only buy the cheapest now - and they all worked ... 14:12 < rxr> cu esden 14:12 < daja77> hehe 14:12 < esden> rxr: I bought the cheepest cdrw's I could find and they are not working too 14:12 < esden> realy strange ... 14:12 < rxr> I never had problems - expect this orange forum embargo media is not correctly recognized thing :-( 14:13 < kasc> moin 14:13 < daja77> hi kasc 14:13 < kasc> *tropf* 14:13 < kasc> hi daja77 14:13 * daja77 getting a drink 14:13 < kasc> kann mal einer die Sonne ausschalten? nur für'n Stündchen oder so... 14:14 < daja77> no our sun doesn't provide such a feature 14:14 * daja77 read in Starship Titanic about a sun with an off switch 14:15 < rxr> ENOFILE /dev/sun ? 14:16 * daja77 has same noisy people in his lab now >_< 14:17 < daja77> *lol* one guy has a pippi langstrumpf mobile ring tune 14:18 < esden> re 14:18 < daja77> wb esden 14:18 * -> esden reaches a role of gaffatape over to daja77 14:19 < daja77> esden: why? 14:19 < daja77> ah to keep them shut, nice 14:19 < esden> kasc: sorry ... I am not able to that ... I have not yet hacked into the world controle mainframe 14:23 < esden> *cry* nooo gcc got updated 14:23 < esden> please tell me that it is not true *cry* 14:25 < blindcoder> esden: it's not true 14:26 < blindcoder> daja77: I don't know what's worse. The fact that he has such a tone, or the fact that you recognised it :D 14:28 < esden> blindcoder: thanks 14:31 < daja77> esden: now you know what I mean, hehe 14:31 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M340P024.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:31 < daja77> blindcoder: I only know it by accident 14:32 < blindcoder> daja77: okay, I rest my casle :) 14:33 < blindcoder> s/l//g 14:33 -!- Lorini [~andrea@pD9506BE1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:35 * daja77 digging through ERR-LOG 14:38 < rxr> so this seems to be -beta (final) 14:39 < daja77> rxr: so I might check out your tree here and merging my stuff into it, if I found the errors 14:40 < esden> the only intelligent use of the html <BLINK> tag: Schroedingers cat is <BLINK>NOT</BLINK> dead. 14:40 < _NULL_> wtf do you have with schroedinger? 14:41 < daja77> esden: lol 14:41 < esden> _NULL_: he rulez! 14:41 < _NULL_> esden: ah. k. 14:41 * -> esden editing his .signature 14:42 < blindcoder> _NULL_: he ha[sd] a cute cat 14:42 < esden> hmm this saturday is rootboard ... 14:43 < esden> blindcoder: you should write: he ha[sd] a cute pussy 14:43 -!- Lorini [~andrea@pD9506D91.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #RockLinux 14:44 < blindcoder> esden: hehe 14:44 < daja77> wb Lorini 14:45 < _NULL_> blindcoder: k. 14:45 * daja77 throws the spider he just found at _NULL_ 14:45 < _NULL_> daja77: *kick* 14:45 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M340P024.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 14:45 < _NULL_> hi n00kie_ 14:46 < daja77> _NULL_: don't like spiders 14:46 < n00kie_> Hi _NULL_ 14:46 < daja77> hey n00kie_ 14:46 < n00kie_> holla daja77 14:47 * daja77 had a plastic spider at school for the girls he disliked 14:48 * netrunner distributed homebrew nude-pics of the girls he disliked ;) 14:48 < daja77> netrunner: url? 14:49 < esden> netrunner: url? 14:49 < netrunner> daja: to long ago, they're all gone in one of my hd crashes 14:49 < esden> netrunner: you suck ;-) 14:49 * blindcoder teaches netrunner the meaning of "backups" with a kluestik 14:49 < esden> blindcoder: it is called lart ;-) 14:50 < netrunner> I still suspect rock to have broken my last hd 14:50 < blindcoder> esden: both are appropriate terms. Although Big Foam Kluestik sounds better and is also understandable for non-geeks (no offense intended :D) 14:50 < esden> netrunner: the reason always sits in front of the computer ;-) 14:51 < netrunner> esden: pebkac 14:51 < netrunner> daja: but if you're in need of nude pics ... I have like a ton of moving pics here :) 14:52 < esden> netrunner: he wants preteen ;-) 14:52 < daja77> netrunner: I was only interested which girls you don't liked, you know *g* 14:53 < daja77> esden: yeah I like unborn... 14:53 * n00kie_ doesn't likes FDisk. 14:53 < daja77> bash sucks 14:54 < n00kie_> Fdisk sucks 14:54 < n00kie_> damn program 14:54 < daja77> n00kie_: fdisk rules 14:54 < blindcoder> cfdisk 14:54 < n00kie_> fdisk cfdisk flamewar 14:54 < n00kie_> i like cfdisk 14:54 < daja77> blindcoder: wimp 14:54 < n00kie_> well 14:54 < blindcoder> daja77: a wimp that hasn't lost any partitions and data yet :P 14:55 < n00kie_> well daja77 14:55 * daja77 neither without cfdisk 14:55 < n00kie_> Can you tell me, how I can create a partition on "partition0" ? 14:55 < daja77> O_o 14:55 < n00kie_> when i type in 14:55 < n00kie_> "reinit" 14:55 < n00kie_> it creates the partition on 3 14:56 < daja77> reinit which fdisk you are talking about 14:56 * netrunner switches to summer mode: room aircon, vents, closedndarked windows 14:56 < n00kie_> Ah :) 14:56 < n00kie_> I have it 14:56 < n00kie_> wow 14:56 < n00kie_> I'm god :) 14:56 < daja77> muhahahahaha 14:57 * blindcoder starts Ragnaroek and kills n00kie_ 14:57 < n00kie_> well, i like cfdisk more than fdisk 14:57 * -> esden needs air conditioning for his cell 15:00 * blindcoder going home. baba 15:00 < n00kie_> Bye blindcoder 15:00 < daja77> bye blindcoder 15:01 < n00kie_> daja77: Can you tell me, how I can change the "disklabel" of my hdd ? 15:01 < rxr> hm - strange that my 2.5 box is still online: 15:01 < rxr> 15:04:29 up 1 day, 14:41, 2 users, load average: 2.76, 1.39, 0.70 15:01 < daja77> disklabel, bsd? 15:01 < n00kie_> yes 15:01 < n00kie_> i wanna try 15:02 < daja77> which bsd? 15:02 < n00kie_> openbsd3.3 15:02 < n00kie_> i thought this is a question to fdisk 15:02 < daja77> hmm I did it once, but can't remember 15:02 < n00kie_> oh :( 15:03 < n00kie_> The guys in #openbsd are much bad 15:03 < daja77> i just don't get these bash errors 15:04 < n00kie_> Hmm 15:04 < daja77> n00kie_: lol 15:04 < daja77> n00kie_: is theo there? 15:05 < n00kie_> i dont know 15:05 < n00kie_> openbsd is bad 15:05 < n00kie_> everything from openbsd is bad 15:05 < n00kie_> i hate openbsd 15:05 < daja77> n00kie_: you know why openbsd exists 15:05 < n00kie_> To use damn fdisk 15:05 < n00kie_> :) 15:06 < n00kie_> well 15:06 < n00kie_> I will create the partitions under cfdisk 15:07 < daja77> bah reading lots of hot air in subversion book 15:09 < esden> ok ... I am off 15:09 < n00kie_> daja77 Why didn't you like cfdisk? 15:09 < n00kie_> Bye esden :) 15:09 < daja77> bye esden 15:09 < esden> buying cards for Matrix Reloaded and then swimming ;-) 15:09 < n00kie_> hi jtburn 15:10 < daja77> n00kie_: it has an awful user interface 15:10 < n00kie_> bah ;) 15:10 < n00kie_> zbut, other users, other "geschmaecker" ;) 15:12 -!- jtburn_ [~jtburn@pD9E7F0D1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:15 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M340P024.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("[BX] Dr. Kavorkian would KILL to use BitchX. Shouldn't you?") 15:16 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M340P024.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 15:17 < Mike1> hi n00kie 15:17 < Mike1> moin all. 15:18 < daja77> moin Mike1 15:18 < Mike1> hi daja77 15:23 < n00kie> Holla Mike1 :) 15:23 < Mike1> n00kie: _HOLA_ :) 15:23 < daja77> *rofl* 15:24 < Mike1> daja77: de que te ries tu? :P 15:25 < daja77> Mike1: I am wondering almost two weeks how long it takes until one of the spanish people correct n00kie 15:25 < Mike1> daja77: well here i am :) 15:26 < n00kie> Hola Mike1 :) 15:30 < rolla> re 15:30 < daja77> hi rolla 15:30 < Mike1> n00kie: see it wasn't very hard to say 'hola' :) 15:30 < Mike1> moin rolla 15:34 < n00kie> well, hard enough for me Mike1 :) 15:34 < Mike1> n00kie: hehe, but the good thing is that you learned 15:34 < Mike1> n00kie: no you have to pronounce my last name :)) 15:35 < Mike1> Bolanos ---> there is a ~ over the n btw :)) 15:35 < jtburn_> Mike1: spelling? no problem :) 15:35 < n00kie> I think it gets speaked "bolan[i]os"? 15:35 < n00kie> s/speaked/spoke 15:36 < Mike1> more or less 15:36 < Mike1> jtburn_: locales problem :) 15:36 < jtburn_> :) 15:37 < n00kie> Bolaños 15:37 < n00kie> :) 15:37 < Mike1> ack :) 15:37 < n00kie> Heh Mike1 15:38 < jtburn_> greetz to ascii *g* 15:38 < daja77> Mike1: the n drops out? 15:38 < Mike1> ack 15:38 < daja77> strange 15:38 < n00kie> How do you speak Bolaños, Mike1? 15:38 < Mike1> btw /me hates this long god damns spanish names 15:39 < n00kie> I would like have a name like Bolaños 15:39 < n00kie> I hate "daniel" 15:39 < Mike1> n00kie: why so? 15:39 < daja77> n00kie: thx 15:39 < Mike1> hahahahahahaha 15:40 < Mike1> n00kie: du hasse daja77? 15:40 < n00kie> daja77: No, your daniel is beautifuller than my daniel :) 15:40 < n00kie> Mike1: Nein, ich mag daja77 sehr gerne. 15:40 < daja77> n00kie: slimer :p 15:40 < n00kie> well, its not sliming 15:40 < n00kie> Just a real word 15:41 < n00kie> I like much people in here :) 15:41 * daja77 feels honored 15:41 < Mike1> n00kie: do you like daja77? 15:41 < n00kie> yes Mike1 15:41 < jtburn_> n00kie: are u in love ? 15:41 < n00kie> No. 15:41 < daja77> *argh* sun shines on my monitor 15:41 < n00kie> like != love 15:42 < jtburn_> I know, It only was a question 15:42 * Mike1 is in love.... to his GF of course :) 15:43 < daja77> jtburn_: like != love 15:43 < n00kie> gf ? geforce? ;) 15:43 < daja77> yeah 15:43 < Mike1> Girl friend :) 15:43 < n00kie> i know ;) 15:43 * jtburn_ eat his apple, and is look and learning to this chan :) 15:44 < daja77> jtburn_: pay us 15:44 < n00kie> Mike1: Yeaah, I love my computer too :) 15:44 < jtburn_> how ? 0190 666 666 ??? 15:44 < daja77> hehe sure 15:45 < Mike1> n00kie: belive it or not, i have a real gf... quite a great think for a geek... :) 15:46 < n00kie> yep, I'll believe you :) 15:46 < Mike1> jtburn_: what do you want to learn about? 15:46 -!- _NULL_ [~owl@aszlig.net] has left #rocklinux ("gone to die") 15:46 < Mike1> n00kie: good. 15:46 < jtburn_> Mike1: speaking english 15:46 < Mike1> jtburn_: ah sounds good :) 15:46 < jtburn_> :) 15:47 < n00kie> come on 10th may to #rocklinux-talk, jtburn_ 15:47 < Mike1> jtburn_: you will learn good linux stuff here too, this guys are damn good. 15:47 < n00kie> There is a german chat :) 15:47 < Mike1> jtburn_: newbies like me learn a lot here. 15:47 < n00kie> yep, and me is the newbie out of us :( 15:47 < n00kie> s/me is/I am 15:48 < Mike1> n00kie: i am truely a newbie, ask daja77 if you don't belive me. 15:48 < daja77> lol 15:51 < jtburn_> Before you are going to Battle each other: I'm the newbiest men on chan 15:51 < daja77> battle, where? 15:51 < n00kie> No, I 15:51 < n00kie> s/battle/flamewar 15:51 < daja77> anyone wann fight me *har har* 15:52 < jtburn_> daja77: I want to fight... in a verbal way :) 15:53 < jtburn_> only :) 15:53 < n00kie> You can get SARS is you only touch something which is "infected" by sars 15:54 < jtburn_> sorry I'm stupid :( 15:55 < n00kie> no 15:55 < n00kie> you're not 15:55 < n00kie> nobody is stupid 15:55 < n00kie> not in here 15:55 < jtburn_> :) 15:58 * Mike1 -=[ ROCK Linux Spanish Chat - June 9th @ #rocklinux-talk, mail mike@rocklinux.org if you have questions about the event ]=- 15:58 < rolla> ah 15:59 < rolla> all spainish ;) 15:59 < Mike1> ack :) 15:59 < rolla> futebol 15:59 < Mike1> rolla: its your chance to improve it. 15:59 < rolla> ha ha 15:59 < Mike1> (futbol) 15:59 < rolla> I don't speak or read a lick of it 15:59 < n00kie> well 15:59 < n00kie> I can talk to evreyone 15:59 < n00kie> "Hola" 15:59 < n00kie> :) 15:59 < daja77> new luser added at work 15:59 < n00kie> I'm good in spanish 16:00 < n00kie> Hola 16:00 * Mike1 imagines n00kie greeting everyone again, and again, again :)) 16:00 < rolla> como 16:01 < n00kie> Bien, cómo usted tienen gusto de mi español, Mike1? Está como 16:01 < n00kie> bueno, como el tuyo, o mucho malo? Dígame:) 16:02 < n00kie> Mike1: Then everyone thinks "Ahh, n00kie is the greet bot" ;) 16:02 < rolla> ö 16:02 < Mike1> n00kie: i think your translator sucks a bit :) 16:03 < n00kie> It was a try worth :) 16:03 < Mike1> n00kie: but if you are willing to learn, i could teach you some 16:04 * daja77 admits not to speak spanish without hiding behind babelfish 16:04 < n00kie> yes, please Mike1! 16:05 < n00kie> I wanna learn spanish :) 16:06 < Mike1> Quiero aprender espa(n+~)ol 16:06 < Mike1> :) 16:06 < Mike1> damn locales. 16:06 < n00kie> do you use english/german (;)) locales? 16:06 < Mike1> english.. 16:06 < Mike1> n00kie: this box is temporary running rh.. 16:07 < daja77> this one too 16:07 < n00kie> "I want to learn spanish" 16:07 < n00kie> :) 16:07 < Mike1> i need a rock iso to use on my workstation so badly 16:07 < Mike1> n00kie: "Yo quiero aprender espanol" 16:08 < n00kie> Es duro aprender español? 16:08 < Mike1> n00kie: s/duro/dificil 16:08 < jtburn_> oh a lot of spanish people here, kewl :) 16:08 < Mike1> n00kie: not that hard (no tan dificil) 16:08 < n00kie> Es dificil aprender español? 16:08 < daja77> jtburn_: at the moment only one... 16:08 < Mike1> jtburn_: sure :) 16:08 < n00kie> dificil == dificult ? 16:08 < Mike1> n00kie: ack 16:09 < n00kie> Well, do you wanna learn german, Mike1? 16:09 < Mike1> ja. 16:09 < jtburn_> I think spai is a kewl but a hot country (I hope you understand what I mean) 16:09 < jtburn_> +n 16:09 < Mike1> jtburn_: sure i do. 16:09 < jtburn_> :) 16:09 < daja77> jtburn_: Mike1 is not in spain :P 16:10 < Mike1> *g 16:10 < jtburn_> where then ? 16:10 < n00kie> Soy n00kie que tengo gusto del linux tengo gusto de deportes tengo 16:10 < n00kie> gusto de español 16:10 < Mike1> iceland 16:10 < daja77> yeah ;) 16:10 < n00kie> he is escimo 16:10 < daja77> n00kie: inuit :p 16:10 < jtburn_> ohhhhhhh cool.... very coool :) 16:10 < jtburn_> HeHe 16:10 < Mike1> jtburn_: jk I am in Costa Rica 16:10 < Mike1> :) 16:10 < daja77> jtburn_: /whois Mike1 ;) 16:11 < Mike1> daja77: well you should not trust whois 16:11 < daja77> Mike1: ack, but in this case 16:11 < n00kie> i always thought "cr" means croatia 16:12 < daja77> hehe 16:12 < n00kie> could be 16:12 -!- Mike2 [mike@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:12 < Mike2> in what case daja77 ? 16:12 < jtburn_> ok, there's optimal cooling for your cpu in a Icehole :) 16:12 < n00kie> IP index, 66.136.183.233 :) 16:13 < Mike2> i could be everywhere :) 16:13 -!- Mike2 [mike@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit (Client Quit) 16:13 < jtburn_> iglu i mean 16:14 < daja77> lol 16:14 < daja77> n00kie: croatia is hr 16:14 < daja77> Mike1: using rolla's account? 16:15 < Mike1> lol 16:15 < Mike1> something like that yeah 16:15 < n00kie> daja77: hr could be hungary ;) 16:16 < Mike1> daja77: though i have access to several hosts all over the world 16:16 < n00kie> but hungary is hu 16:16 < daja77> yes 16:16 < Mike1> nk could be n00kie 16:16 < daja77> n00kie: https://www.december.com/html/spec/domcodes.html 16:16 < daja77> lol 16:18 < n00kie> nk? 16:18 < Mike1> n00kie.nk :) 16:18 < n00kie> n00kie without 00ie? :) 16:18 < daja77> hongkong 16:19 < Mike1> kingkong? 16:20 < daja77> I am not talking of you... 16:21 * Mike1 grabs his baseball bat, are you talking to me? 16:21 < daja77> indeed *running away 16:21 < daja77> * 16:22 < Mike1> come over here coward 16:22 * Mike1 phping... brb 16:24 < n00kie> have fun 16:24 < Mike1> i am :) 16:33 < rxr> hi Mike1 16:33 < Mike1> Good day rxr 16:34 -!- kasc_ [~kasc@p509099F6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:35 < kasc_> re 16:35 < daja77> re kasc_ 16:49 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090BB49.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:09 -!- kasc_ is now known as kasc 17:14 < rxr> 2.0.0-beta released (puh - finally) 17:14 < daja77> congrats 17:14 < Mike1> wee! :) 17:24 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958FAEF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:24 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FE2B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: blindcod1r!blindcoder@pD958FAEF.dip.t-dialin.net))) 17:24 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 17:24 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FAEF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: blindcoder!blindcoder@pD958FAEF.dip.t-dialin.net))) 17:37 < Mike1> https://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/ontheedge_0305.html 17:37 < Mike1> what enables this? Linux..... 17:38 < daja77> *argh* what a crap page Mike1 17:39 < Mike1> daja77: forget about the page and the design, look at the info! 17:40 < daja77> it opened 6 other windows *damn* 17:41 < daja77> it is not unlikey that nasa uses linux 17:45 -!- ringo [~ringo@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux 17:46 < Mike1> hi ringo 17:46 < ringo> hi Mike1 17:46 < daja77> yeah hi ringo welcome here 17:48 < daja77> well $root points to build dir and is available for every package right? 17:48 < ringo> Mike1: How is UML doing ? 17:49 < Mike1> UML and hurd are doing good. 17:50 < Mike1> well uml is in better shape :) 17:50 < ringo> Thanks Mike1 17:50 < Mike1> why do you thank me? 17:51 < ringo> for the infotainment. 17:51 < Mike1> :)) 17:51 < Mike1> np 18:07 < rxr> daja77: yes $oot is availble for any pkg 18:07 < rxr> daja77: Documentation/Developers/PKG-BUILD-VARS 18:08 < daja77> rxr: ok I found the error I think, isn't related with $root, I just felt unsure 18:12 -!- ringo [~ringo@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.2.4") 18:19 -!- JTBurn [~jtburn@pD9E7E5A7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:23 -!- ringo [~ringo@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux 18:24 < daja77> *sigh* the rtai build scripts are real crap 18:26 < praenti> hi 18:26 < n00kie> daja77: Please don't use that bad words. :) 18:27 < Mike1> hi praenti 18:27 < praenti> anybody knows how i put a password in the cvs url for curl? 18:27 < daja77> n00kie: why not I am old enough for it ;) 18:27 < daja77> hi praenti 18:28 < rxr> praenti: curl does not download cvs 18:30 < praenti> rxr: thx. ok you are right. it is an own implementation i see at the moment 18:32 * ringo is away: feeding time 18:32 -!- jtburn_ [~jtburn@pD9E7F0D1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:47 < JTBurn> did anyone know an other Webserver not apache who is similar to config ??? 18:47 < Mike1> you don't like apache??? 18:48 < JTBurn> apache didn't run on my system 18:48 < rolla> what do you have? 18:51 * daja77 is goin cu 18:51 < JTBurn> the newest version... but its equal how I config the httpd.conf it occoured the same error every time: you no permission to access / on this server ... 18:52 < JTBurn> and I'm at the end with my knowledge 18:52 < rolla> hmm so Apache runs but is not configed right 18:52 < Mike1> JTBurn: maybe you want to 'chmod -R +r .' the dir where the webfiles are located 18:53 < rolla> also remember that the +indexes must be on if there are no index.html files there 18:57 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E7B47D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:57 < martin_> Hello ... 18:58 < JTBurn> The same error ... 18:58 < n00kie> Mike1: Its not a CHMod Problem 19:04 -!- JTBurn [~jtburn@pD9E7E5A7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:04 < rolla> damn 19:16 < n00kie> rolla: what? 19:20 < ringo> hmm .. Could not connect to host www.rocklinux.de 19:21 * ringo is back 20:16 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M340P024.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:20 -!- _NULL_ [~owl@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:20 < _NULL_> hi 20:20 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D36E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:21 < _NULL_> hi tcr 20:23 < tcr> moin all 20:29 < tcr> rolla: ping 20:30 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9588EC6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:30 < tcr> moin tsa 20:30 < _NULL_> hi tsa 20:30 < tsa> moin. 20:32 < rxr> hi tsa 20:33 < tcr> Hmm 20:34 < tcr> Just realized that I won't be able to attent neither the vienna meeting nor get a change to come to LinuxTag... what a crap! 20:35 < _NULL_> oh this means that you and i have no chance to kill eachother. 20:35 < tcr> _NULL_: I wouldn't ever do that myself. I never get my hands dirty ;) 20:37 < _NULL_> tcr: so you mean - you send someone to LT and/or vienna to kill me? 20:37 < tsa> *sigh* the never-ending topic... 20:37 < _NULL_> tsa: ack 20:37 < tsa> _NULL_: we will _NOT_ kill you. 20:38 < tsa> (it's more fun to see you suffer) 20:38 < tcr> _NULL_: Yeah, if this was my intent, I probably ;) 20:38 < tcr> would 20:38 * _NULL_ takes 3 openbsd cds and smashes them onto tcr and tsa 20:38 < _NULL_> "die bastards" 20:40 < tcr> tsa: No, it finally turned upsidedown, that means she now seems to got that it's fun after all ;) 20:45 < _NULL_> tcr: NACK. i just left rock 20:45 < _NULL_> (more or less) 20:48 -!- JTBurn [~jtburn@pD9E7E5A7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:48 < Mike1> lier. 20:48 < JTBurn> re 20:48 < Mike1> welcome back JTBurn 20:49 < JTBurn> who was the nice guy which I shall send my httpd.conf ??? 20:49 < rxr> what's going on here ? *kopfshuettel* 20:49 < _NULL_> Mike1: who is a lier? 20:50 < Mike1> rxr: ? 20:50 < JTBurn> Or anybody know my problem and have a solution ? :) 20:50 < Mike1> JTBurn: you need rolla. 20:50 < JTBurn> rolla ? 20:50 < JTBurn> is it a prog or a name ??? 20:51 < _NULL_> name 20:51 < Mike1> JTBurn: nope, its the guy you were supposed to send your httpd.conf file too 20:51 < JTBurn> ok. I query him 20:52 < Mike1> good. 20:52 < tcr> He seems to be away 20:52 < Mike1> hi tcr 20:52 < tcr> moin Mike1 20:53 < Mike1> _NULL_: you. You need rock, your project would be nothing without it. 20:53 < _NULL_> Mike1: thx for the compliment! 20:53 -!- _NULL_ [~owl@aszlig.net] has left #rocklinux ("fsck you, Mike1") 20:54 < Mike1> amazingly sweet as usual :) 20:54 < tcr> *g* I'm getting redundant on this, damn ;) 20:55 < JTBurn> Mike1: I think I found the problem: the config-file is empty and I can write into there. but after I start the Apache the file is empty again. what should happen ??? 20:55 < Mike1> i wonder where was my offence to her? 20:55 < Mike1> she is doing a rock fork, so ofcourse her project is based on rock.. 20:56 < Mike1> JTBurn: the httpd.conf file??? 20:56 < Mike1> 0_o 20:56 < JTBurn> yes 20:56 < Mike1> OMG 20:56 < Mike1> JTBurn: i have hnoestly never seen such thing. 20:57 < JTBurn> I, too 20:57 < rxr> what problems do so many people have here ? 20:57 < Mike1> JTBurn: what apache version is it? 20:57 < JTBurn> the newest 20:58 < Mike1> rxr: JTBurn have apache problems, _NULL_ simply needs to grow up. 20:58 < JTBurn> and before the 2.0.44 and therefor the 1.3.xx in every version the same prob 20:58 < Mike1> JTBurn: mm.. perhaps is an apache specific error, have you seen in the mailing list archives, to see if someone else already the same problems? 20:59 < rolla> you can create a sperate config file and do the startup with the -f option and see if it blanks that file too 20:59 < tcr> rolla! 20:59 < tcr> some time? 21:00 < rolla> yup 21:01 < rolla> I have been very busy at work :) 21:03 < rxr> Mike1: yes I read the Apache config problem - that wasn't what I asked - I meant the personal bashing here - I think other people need to grow up here, ... 21:04 < Mike1> rxr: as i said before, _NULL_ is just back to her usual childish attitude 21:04 -!- jtburn_ [~jtburn@pD9E7E6F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:05 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M340P024.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 21:05 < jtburn_> re 21:05 < jtburn_> Mike1: I searched in the mailinglists and no one was found 21:06 < Mike1> jtburn rxr did found something 21:06 < jtburn_> really? 21:06 < Mike1> rxr: or you mean someone else? 21:06 < rxr> Mike1: feel free to read scroll-back 21:08 < jtburn_> rxr: do you find anything about my probb ??? 21:10 < rxr> jtburn_: no sorry - I'm out of time to look into apache issues ... 21:10 < rxr> never saw a apache empties config problem :-( 21:13 < tcr> jtburn_: well, use strace (+ filtering out all creat(), write(), ... calls) to see if it's really apache 21:14 < jtburn_> tcr: I dont know what you mean, can you explain me exactly? 21:14 < tcr> jtburn_: Do you know a bit about C? 21:14 < rolla> mom 21:15 < jtburn_> tcr: not very much but I hope enough for that task :) 21:16 < tcr> jtburn_: So you know what syscalls are? With strace(1) you can trace them... for example just call 'strace /bin/ls' 21:16 < rolla> JTBurn create a basic apache config called test.conf 21:17 < rolla> then start apache with httpd -f test.conf 21:17 -!- JTBurn [~jtburn@pD9E7E5A7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:18 < jtburn_> ok. mom. @ rolla 21:19 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E7B47D.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux ("Bye bye") 21:20 < rolla> jtburn_: this is apcahe2 right? 21:20 < jtburn_> yes 21:21 * Mike1 is away: having lunch 21:22 < jtburn_> [root@localhost httpd]# httpd -f test.conf 21:22 < jtburn_> no listening sockets available, shutting down 21:22 < jtburn_> [root@localhost httpd]# 21:22 < jtburn_> @ rolla 21:22 < jtburn_> und nu ? 21:22 < jtburn_> oh. sorry 21:22 < jtburn_> and now ? 21:24 < jtburn_> mom i see a bug on myself test.conf 21:28 < jtburn_> rolla: the same bug 21:29 < n00kie> https://www.sgi.com/visualization/onyx/3000/ir/images/onyx3000ir3_index.jpg yea 21:29 < rolla> jtburn_: :) 21:29 -!- jtburn_ is now known as JTBurn 21:30 < JTBurn> *fg* 21:30 < rolla> is it working now? 21:30 < n00kie> <jtburn_> rolla: the same bug 21:30 < JTBurn> thats my negativ karma. I'm sure 21:32 < rolla> the file is now empty? 21:33 < JTBurn> no 21:34 < rolla> what is the error 21:34 < JTBurn> mom 21:34 < JTBurn> You don't have permission to access / on this server. 21:34 < JTBurn> Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. 21:34 < rolla> is there a index.html file in that dir? 21:35 < JTBurn> yes 21:36 < tsa> permissions of htdocs direcotry? 21:36 < daja77> re 21:37 < tsa> grep 'Directory ' /path/to/httpd.conf 21:39 < tcr> rolla: sent 21:41 < JTBurn> tsa: [root@localhost httpd]# grep '/home/jtburn/homepage' /etc/httpd/test.conf 21:41 < JTBurn> [root@localhost httpd]# 21:41 < JTBurn> there is nothing 21:42 < tsa> can a user {apache,nobody} access this directory? 21:43 * daja77 wonders if he is in the right chan 21:44 < rolla> :) 21:44 < JTBurn> tsa: yes jtburn 21:44 < tsa> hm.. 21:46 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E7B47D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:47 < JTBurn> I try it to set it readable for all ... 21:47 < JTBurn> but theres the bug too 21:48 < daja77> *hmpf* 21:50 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E7B47D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:56 < daja77> O_o the builds are getting worse 21:56 < daja77> even tetex failed 21:58 < tsa> daja77: there'l be lots of bugs still hidden... 21:58 < tsa> successfully building a package != a working package 21:58 < daja77> shared files with coreutils, mnemoc where are you *g* 21:59 < daja77> yeah non building package -> for sure not working package 21:59 < tsa> but we'll need lots of people testing to find most of these bugs.. 21:59 < daja77> if you think that this is the road to stable... 22:00 < daja77> I hope I can soon spend some time on bugfixing 22:00 < tsa> daja77: well..i guess we'll still miss lots of bugs with the 2.0 release.. 22:01 < tsa> 2.0.x will probably fix most of them 22:02 < tsa> the only way to attract lots of people for testing is to make a major release. 22:02 < daja77> well if I look at it now, I doubt if we'll have 2.0 in some weeks 22:02 < tsa> hm..i don't know. 22:03 < daja77> I was fighting rtai today 22:03 < rxr> daja77: yes - the tetex thing is rather minor - I'll fix this tonight! 22:03 < daja77> rxr: ok it was just on my screen... 22:03 < rxr> jups - rahter minor issue ... 22:04 < rxr> but it will be fixed in some minutes 22:04 < daja77> I love him for this 22:04 < tsa> hm...i'm glad all of my packages seem to build ok in the last few build reports i've seen on the list 22:04 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M340P024.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:05 < rxr> daja77: to you wanna bet we will have a 2.0.0 without build errors in (at least) the desktop target within four weeks ? 22:05 < daja77> rxr: yeah I bet against, and will be a happy looser 22:05 < daja77> loser 22:05 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M267P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 22:05 < rxr> err I meant the build errors will be fixed in four weeks - the 2.0.0-final might be six weeks or so 22:05 < tsa> rxr: you'll need to enter a pre-release phase, then: no unneeded package updates, no more new packages. 22:06 < tsa> just bugfixing. 22:06 < tsa> nothing else. 22:06 < rxr> tsa: yes I know 22:06 < daja77> tsa: strong ack, not even more games 22:06 < JTBurn> ok. problem is fixed :) 22:06 < rxr> I always had perfect dRock releases - the only 2.0 problem is that it are far more packages - and people do take too little care .. 22:06 < tsa> and we need some kind of pre-release "tags" to coordinate bug reports 22:06 < JTBurn> thx to rolla 22:06 < JTBurn> :) 22:07 < rxr> tsa: how do you define tag ? 22:07 < daja77> I think it would be good if people who likes to have new packages provide them as .gem first, and check in later if the release is done 22:08 < tsa> rxr: currently, people are getting "cvs head". they report bugs to the list with "rock linux cvs of 2003-05-somehting" .. 22:08 < tsa> since things might even change within that one day, coordination is difficult. 22:09 < tsa> a suggestion: create a tar.gz, name it "rock-2.0rc1.tar.gz" and put it somewhere. 22:09 < tcr> Tss. For what do we have svn? Just create a main branch, an update branch, and a new-package branch. Make use of the functionality of branches, it's awesome (properly used, which precludes that there's a proper imlementation in svn) 22:09 < tsa> or, add a 2.0rc1 tag to cvs/svn/.. 22:10 < tsa> it'll be easier to track bugs, then. 22:10 < tsa> (and attract more people to do builds than just a "cvs something" 22:10 < tsa> ) 22:10 < tsa> IMHO. 22:11 < tsa> what do you think? 22:11 < tcr> Well 22:12 < rxr> yes sure 22:12 < daja77> 31 ne mails on rlml >_< 22:12 < daja77> new 22:13 < rxr> I even send 1.7.0-19c3, 2.0.0-TP2 2.0.0-alpha tar-balls to cliff 22:13 < rxr> they are simply not on the web 22:13 < rxr> I also have the 2.0.0-beta lying here ... 22:13 < tsa> hm.. 22:13 < tcr> that's a rather reciprocal affair: I don't think more people would be attracted just if you publish a tagged tarball, you also need some PR. And PR could easily turn in bad PR if the promated thing doesn't work properly. So to promote something, it must at least be not a pile of bugs... 22:13 < rxr> but using svn now I'll tag the source sure 22:13 < tsa> rxr: put the -beta sources on your web server, then. 22:14 < tsa> announce it on the list and on freshmeat to attract people. 22:14 < rxr> tsa: yeah - quite inconsistent ... but sure will do so if they do not appear soon 22:14 * rxr head banging - fogot the freshmeat announcement today ... 22:15 < tsa> do it now. 22:15 < tsa> it's still early in USA etc.. 22:15 < tcr> hmm, don't even have an account at freshmeat. Will create one now to rate rocklinux! 22:16 < tcr> Anyone else who hasn't yet rated it? 22:16 < rxr> hm - yes (although I currently do my electric report for university - needs to be handed over tomorrow ...) 22:16 < tcr> daja77, rolla? 22:17 < tcr> hmm? What is 'fake Email:' ? 22:18 < tcr> (at freshmeat's registration) 22:18 < tsa> don't know 22:18 -!- JTBurn [~jtburn@pD9E7E6F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 22:19 < tsa> i didn't enter anything there 22:19 < daja77> tcr: what's up 22:20 < tcr> daja77: Did you rate rocklinux at freshmeat? 22:21 * tsa adding rxr to friends list. 22:21 < rxr> there is also an seperated drock project 22:21 < rxr> (hint) 22:21 < daja77> tcr: nope 22:22 * tsa just rated dROCK 22:23 < tcr> The username tcr is already taken. 22:23 < tcr> Hrrrm 22:23 < tsa> hehe 22:25 < tcr> User ID: 22:25 < tcr> 188126 22:25 < tcr> Username: 22:25 < tcr> tobrit 22:25 < tcr> Ok 22:26 * tsa adding... 22:29 < tcr> eh, what's your username? 22:31 < tsa> tsa666 22:31 < tcr> LOL 8) 22:34 < tcr> ROCK Linux by Jocelyn - Sunday, June 20th 1999 20:10 PST 22:34 < tcr> does that mean it has been updated the last time pn 20th June?! 22:38 < rxr> nope 22:38 < rxr> Development 22:38 < rxr> 1.5.12 22:38 < rxr> 25-Dec-2001 22:39 < tcr> Well, what a difference ;) 22:40 < rxr> tcr: simply the 1.5 mess ... 22:40 < rxr> ask huebie what he did ... 22:41 < tcr> Woohoo, isn't jocel responsible for that? Well, nevermind.. 22:42 < rxr> tcr: huebi never announced 1.5 releases - how should she have known ... 22:42 < daja77> huebi, she? 22:42 < tcr> rxr: That's true 22:45 < tcr> Huh? Is that normal that I see [project] add release | ... | ... [project]? And if i click on one of those, I even get to some site?? 22:45 < rxr> daja77: jocelyn == she 22:45 < rxr> how should jocelyn have notived the secret 1.5 releases ? 22:46 < rxr> tcr: test what it does ... 22:46 < tcr> So authorization is afterwards? 22:46 < daja77> rxr: ah yes I know about jocelyn 22:47 < rxr> announcing 2.0.0-beta on freshmeat takes a while - I first tag the svn and make a tarball out of it ... 22:47 < daja77> hmm nice /me will do a svn up later 22:49 < daja77> Mike1: still eating? 22:52 < rxr> daja77: for you this will not change anything - you can already do it now ;-) 22:52 < daja77> still building 22:55 < rxr> just heared in the server room who busy the RAID-5 array is during a svn checkout ;-) 22:55 < rxr> s/who/how/ 22:56 < daja77> hehe 22:57 < daja77> hmm does mnemoc already know about breaking openldap 23:01 * Mike1 is back (gone 01:39:27) 23:01 < daja77> wb Mike1 23:01 < Mike1> thanks 23:01 < Mike1> were you looking for me daja77? 23:02 < daja77> I was just wandering about your long meal *g* 23:02 < tcr> Hah... meal then fiesta... 23:03 < rxr> https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-tags/ 23:04 < rxr> wow - tagging takes only parts of an second ... 23:04 < daja77> *loool* 23:05 < daja77> there is a consulting firm called illuminata 23:05 < tcr> Hrrrr 23:06 < daja77> they are involved in this sco case *rofl* 23:07 < tcr> Oh well. 23:08 < rxr> hm - maybe I should get a faster CPU for the server ... 23:08 < rxr> CPU states: 66.7% user, 4.3% system, 0.0% nice, 28.8% idle 23:08 < rxr> during subversion checkout 23:09 < tcr> Hmm, what would be a fair price for an athlon XP 1GHZ and some mainboard? 23:10 < daja77> 200 euro perhaps 23:10 -!- Caspar_ [~steven261@M106P013.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 23:10 < rxr> I have an 1700XP in my build-box myself ;-) 23:10 < rxr> maybe this should become the next servern when a Dual Hammer becomes my new build box ;-) 23:11 < daja77> rxr: strong ack 23:11 * Mike1 has a 4x2400mhz xeon box to build :) 23:11 < daja77> Mike1: poser 23:11 < tcr> Well, a friend of mine is about selling this to me... iirc he mentioned a price of about 180euro. Though I'm not really sure what precicely the tact frequency has been... 23:11 * daja77 neither but this could be ok 23:12 < Mike1> rxr: btw, whats the current status on the Sparc / Sparc64 ports? 23:12 < tcr> Maybe I'm mixing here something up, and he's about selling me an AMD Duron 800mhz, in order to buy an ahtlon XP 1ghz 8) Have to ask him tomorrow again 23:13 < daja77> yeah do so 23:13 < rxr> build as intel does - but special hacks for the kernel are needed as well as boot code 23:13 < rxr> if you find a sponsor I'll leave the Windows GUI coding and do this in one week 23:15 < daja77> urgs I am a lucky one working with linux only 23:16 < rxr> daja77: I work with linux only too - for five years now or so ... 23:16 < daja77> good 23:16 < rxr> but when I sit at PACE (www.pace.de) I'll have to write some C++ lines related to aircraft CAD stuff for Windows ... 23:16 < rxr> (somehow I need to pay the flat and so ..) 23:16 < daja77> ;) 23:17 < tcr> what about robbery? ;) 23:17 < daja77> rxr: sure, I have the job to code control software for linux, so I don't have windows at work, only a samba server for the lusers 23:18 < daja77> tcr: hard business 23:18 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802822.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23:19 < rxr> whit now I did a svn mistake 23:19 * rxr should go to bed ... 23:20 < daja77> gn8 rxr 23:20 < Mike1> gute nacht Ren 23:21 < tsa> cu rxr 23:21 < Mike1> Sebastian saludos 23:22 < tcr> me too. 23:22 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D36E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("gn8 all") 23:23 < tsa> hi Mike1 23:23 < rxr> hehe _should_ != is going ;-) 23:23 < rxr> so finally tagged 23:24 < Mike1> rxr: ah hehe 23:24 < rxr> but I do the announement on freshmeat tomorrow when I'm not in a hury ... 23:25 < Mike1> why in a hurry? 23:28 < rxr> because I need sleep ... 23:28 < daja77> acj 23:28 < daja77> ack 23:28 < daja77> d'oh 23:29 < rxr> have to be at the university at 8.oo tomorrow - and it is 23:32 here 23:29 < Mike1> so get urself in bed already my friend 23:30 < daja77> anyone tried to get an isdn card to dial up internet when called via mobile? 23:36 < daja77> gn8 everybody 23:40 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M267P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 23:41 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M267P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 23:41 < daja77> gn8 n00kie 23:41 < n00kie> sleep well, daja77 :) 23:48 < rxr> frehsmeat announcement commited 23:49 < rxr> cu tomorrow - good night 23:50 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M267P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Damn, wrong button.") 23:53 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M267P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 23:56 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M267P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 23:57 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M267P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux --- Log closed Tue May 06 00:00:02 2003