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--- Log opened Thu May 15 00:00:31 2003 --- Day changed Thu May 15 2003 00:08 < _NULL_> gn8 00:08 < Be-El> cu null 00:15 * tsa_ patching 00:15 < tsa_> .. 00:23 < tsa_> YES!!! 00:23 < Mike1> ? 00:23 < Mike1> hi tsa btw 00:23 < tsa_> hi Mike1 00:24 < Be-El> tsa_: no 00:24 < tsa_> i just discovered we don't even have a metamail package 00:24 < tsa_> so i made one. 00:24 < tsa_> the result: 00:24 < tsa_> $ ls metamail/ 00:24 < tsa_> 00_mm-2.7-make.patch 50_mm-2.7-linux.patch 00:24 < tsa_> 05_mm-2.7-fonts.patch 55_metamail-2.7-fixpartial.patch 00:24 < tsa_> 10_mm-2.7-glibc.patch 60_metamail-2.7-fixawk.patch 00:24 < tsa_> 15_mm-2.7-csh.patch 65_metamail-2.7-usesox.patch 00:24 < tsa_> 20_mm-2.7-uudecode.patch 70_mm-2.7-sendmail.patch 00:24 < tsa_> 25_mm-2.7-sunquote.patch 75_mm-2.7-remove_tilde.patch 00:24 < tsa_> 30_mm-2.7-ohnonotagain.patch 80_mm-2.7-strip.patch 00:24 < tsa_> 35_mm-2.7-arghhh.patch 85_mm-2.7-rm.patch 00:24 < tsa_> 40_mm-2.7-sml.patch metamail.conf 00:25 < tsa_> 45_metamail-2.7-nl.patch metamail.desc 00:25 < tsa_> (some patches shamelessy stolen from RedHat..) 00:25 < Mike1> holysh|t! 00:26 < Be-El> why is that voice in my head saying a simple perl script would waste less disk space ? ;-) 00:26 < Mike1> *ggg* 00:26 < Be-El> disktype: usr/sbin/disktype 00:26 < Be-El> disktype: usr/share/doc/disktype/HISTORY 00:26 < Be-El> ... 00:26 < Be-El> done ;-) 00:29 < tsa_> at least my mail system at home is working fine now.. 00:29 < tsa_> (switched incoming to uucp today..a lot nicer than fetchmail.. ;) 00:30 < tsa_> ROTFL. 00:30 < tsa_> taken from the metamail redhat .spec file: 00:30 < tsa_> * Mon Jun 22 1998 Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com> 00:30 < tsa_> - If you want to know how not to write secure software 00:30 < tsa_> then metamail is a good worked example. Mind you to 00:30 < tsa_> be fair the original author wrote it as a prototype 00:30 < tsa_> MIME tool and it stuck. Anyway it might actually be 00:30 < tsa_> safe now. More from the Linux Security Audit Project. 00:53 < rxr> Committed revision 233. 00:53 < Be-El> rxr: you're too fast, the next patch is not ready yet ;-) 00:57 < rxr> the changes are that locally that your patch most probably apply ;-) 00:59 < Be-El> we'll see ;-) 00:59 < Be-El> patch send 01:00 < tsa_> rxr: how often do you sync to clifford? 01:02 < Be-El> 18 packages left to be fixed 01:04 < rxr> tsa_: until last week every night - but since in the last 1 1/2 weeks the patches where pending for half a week or longer - I now do is every two or three days, depding uppong my free time .. 01:05 < tsa_> rxr: why should custmain be avoided? 01:05 < Be-El> anyways, i'm off 01:05 < Be-El> cu 01:05 < tsa_> cu Be-El 01:06 -!- Be-El [~be-el@pD9E11BA7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 01:06 < rxr> tsa_: because it disables many hooks the targets can use for package adaption 01:07 < rxr> take a look into scripts/functions 01:07 < tsa_> rxr: btw...the build scripts try bzip2 on the tar.Z file, therefore i extract manually. 01:08 < rxr> tsa_: I feared this . 01:08 < rxr> (maybe we should adapt the scripts to recognize .Z ... ?!?) 01:08 < rxr> anyway 01:09 < tsa_> might be a good idea. 01:09 < rxr> you should to this quite in the beginning (preconf or so) and set srcdir 01:09 < rxr> so the patching will be done automatically 01:10 < rxr> tsa_: not in the next days - most clean would be to convert during download ... This can be a -beta4 thing or so. 01:10 < tsa_> ack 01:10 < tsa_> metamail is really ugly, but since it's a pretty common package.. 01:14 < tsa_> exim 4.20 released, BTW. 01:16 < rxr> tsa_: ok - thanks 01:26 < rxr> it is really nice how many people currently contribute to 2.0 ;-)! 01:27 < tsa_> ack 01:27 < tsa_> more people are really important.. 01:27 < rxr> tsa_: ack 01:29 < rxr> tsa_: I had a really strange email conversation with ripclaw ... 01:30 < tsa_> about what? 01:30 < tsa_> (i haven't heard anything from him for quite a while) 01:31 < rxr> tsa_: about why ROCK currently sucks - and what we need to do differently 01:31 < Mike1> mm... 01:31 < rxr> tsa_: in the whole he has not been subscribed on rock-linux since last December and not followed any ROCK news 01:31 < tsa_> ah, i see. 01:31 < rxr> and did not know abou anything recent ... - not even that 1.6 got deprecated ... 01:32 < Mike1> rxr: so how can he tell rock currently sucks 01:32 < Mike1> ? 01:32 < mnemoc> 1-coreutils fails (with Mike's applied) :( 01:32 < rxr> Mike1: don't ask me ... 01:32 < tsa_> hm.. i can't say anything about why rock sucks. i guess that's impossible when you're involved as a developer 01:33 < Mike1> tsa_: perhaps 01:33 < Mike1> mnemoc: huh? 01:33 < Mike1> mnemoc: can i see the patch 01:33 < Mike1> ? 01:33 < tsa_> i guess there are lots of things that suck about rock linux, but we'll never notice them...user reports are important for that kind.. 01:33 < Mike1> i mean the error* 01:33 < tsa_> i'm (mostly) satisfied.. 01:33 < mnemoc> Mike1: query 01:34 < mnemoc> tsa: we need a public 'blackboard' on the main page 01:34 < Mike1> mnemoc: ah yeah, i fixed that somedays ago but have not submit a patch as never heard back about the previous from rxr or clifforfd 01:35 < mnemoc> post the updated one ;) 01:35 < Mike1> mm... ok 01:35 < Mike1> moment 01:36 < tsa_> rxr: TYPO! 01:36 < rxr> mnemoc: for 2.0 I need bugzilla 01:36 < tsa_> [V] 0,22,0 01:36 < tsa_> subversion package 01:36 < rxr> tsa_: thanks 01:37 < mnemoc> bugzilla isn't too 'big' for rock? 01:37 < rxr> mnemoc: don't now - but I need more than my manual 2.0.0.in file ... ;-) 01:37 < rxr> where user can write bugs into ... 01:38 < rxr> and too big ;-) the subversino people said my repository is _big_ ;-) So ... 01:38 < mnemoc> full of svn overhead ;) 01:38 < mnemoc> 30M -> 120M here 01:39 < rxr> mnemoc: yes - but this includes a second copy so that many operations are a) fast and b) network-less ;-) 01:39 < mnemoc> sure... svn is much better than cvs 01:39 < rxr> and you can revert to a prestine copy and diff without network 01:40 < mnemoc> i didn't know that 01:40 < rxr> ;-) 01:41 < Mike1> mnemoc: i sent the new patch to you an cc tp rxr 01:42 < mnemoc> thanks 01:43 < Mike1> :) 01:45 < mnemoc> rxr: could be great if we could develop over parallel braches on the same server.. i can't mix rock's svn with my own svn.. or cvs... so i can loose all the work with an stupid rm -rf src.* 01:46 < rxr> mnemoc: how would you like to work on the server ? 01:46 < Mike1> mnemoc: src.* is cleaned up with ./scripts/Cleanup 01:46 < mnemoc> Mike1: i know but my fingers prefer to write rm -rf :( 01:46 < Mike1> mnemoc: well then its an attitude problem :P 01:47 < mnemoc> brb :| 01:49 < rxr> hm do I merge with Cliff this night ? 01:51 < tsa_> yes, do it. 01:51 < rxr> Mike1: the > is a string compare in bash (IRRC) should be -gt 01:51 < rxr> tsa_: do you use cvs or svn ? ;-) 01:52 < tsa_> rxr: currently cvs - the subversion package insists on apache... 01:52 < rxr> tsa_: build it manually ;-) 01:52 < rxr> then it doesn't need apache ... 01:52 < tsa_> hehe 01:53 < rxr> why don't you wanna have apache on your workstation ? 01:53 < rxr> Mark Mitchell <mar GCC 3.3 Released 01:54 < rxr> hehe: 01:54 < rxr> - Angela Thomas, for putting our CVS repository back together in 01:54 < rxr> incredibly short order, after I made a mess of it. 01:54 < tsa_> hehe 01:54 < rxr> ^- Mark Mitchell destroyed the gcc cvs shortly before the release ... 01:54 < tsa_> rxr: because i already have my own apache installed.. 01:55 < Mike1> rxr: ok so -gt will be :) 01:56 < rxr> but I dont like this conditional patch anyway - it should be disable another way 01:57 < Mike1> rxr: So how about you apply your fix idea so we can have a working coreutils 01:57 < Mike1> ? 01:57 < mnemoc> rxr: an RCS wihich allows us to a have personal braches (keeping just the differences with main brach) to have version control we too ;) 01:57 < rxr> Mike1: yeah - that would really be a great thing ... 01:58 < mnemoc> rxr: lx24/gcc33 previous problem solved :D .... new one had come :( 01:58 < mnemoc> net/network.o(.text+0xf6e5): In function `rtnetlink_rcv': 01:58 < mnemoc> : undefined reference to `rtnetlink_rcv_skb' 01:58 < mnemoc> make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1 01:58 < rxr> mnemoc: :-( 01:59 < Mike1> rxr: i'm just saying, if you know a better solution than mine to get this damn coreutils building, then please apply such solution 01:59 < Mike1> rxr: i don't mind if my patch doesn't get applied as long as the package gets fixed soon.. 01:59 < rxr> Mike1: I got what you mean ... 02:00 < Mike1> i guess its our common interest :) 02:00 < rxr> //usr/bin/yes yes 02:00 < tsa_> lol. 02:01 < tsa_> https://internet.ls-la.net/pictures/Traffic-Ticket-of-the-NPD.html 02:01 < rxr> this damn cvs up is so slow ... 02:02 < rxr> sync running ... 02:07 < rxr> Committed revision 244. 02:07 < rxr> ^- sync with clifford 02:07 < tsa_> ok 02:08 < rxr> tsa_: now I'm diffing for the output to clifford ... 02:09 < tsa_> do you have write access to cliffords cvs or do you mail him the diffs? 02:10 < rxr> nope mail 02:10 < rxr> this is why they are lying around half a week in the last weeks ... 02:10 < mnemoc> c question: why an inline function may be defined as extern? linux2.4.21-rc2/net/core/rtnetlink.c 02:10 < rxr> and why I agreed with him that I'll do all the merging from the list now .. 02:11 < tsa_> ah, ok 02:11 < rxr> mnemoc: ou - the special meaning changed over time ... - the best is to google for it! (there have been extensive discussions about that on linux-kernel) 02:12 < mnemoc> rxr: ok :( ... btw, thats what breaks lx24/gcc33 now 02:13 < Mike1> rm -rf rock-1.5/ rock-src-1.7/ rock-trunk/ patches/ docs/ 02:13 < Mike1> uurrgs 02:13 < Mike1> sorry. 02:14 * Mike1 is away: busy 02:14 < rxr> hm ? 02:16 < rxr> rm -rf this dirs? Maybe I should not say s.th. about conditional patches ... 02:16 * Mike1 is back (gone 00:02:37) 02:16 < Mike1> rxr: nah its ok. 02:17 < Mike1> rxr: i'm cleaning up thats all. 02:18 < mnemoc> i use 3 copies of svn tree :) 02:18 < mnemoc> reference; development; testing 02:20 < Mike1> mnemoc: very good, all in the same box? 02:21 < mnemoc> hd is not THE problem of that box 02:21 < Mike1> :) 02:21 < Mike1> i know. 02:22 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Real Life is just an illusion caused by IRC deprivation") 02:28 < tsa_> <- sleep 02:28 < tsa_> n8 02:28 -!- tsa_ [~tsa@pD9E12567.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("*plopp*") 02:28 < rxr> n8 tsa_ 02:28 < rxr> so finally merged 02:28 < rxr> mail off to cliff 02:28 < rxr> ui "234k" 02:41 * Mike1 leaving 02:41 < Mike1> n8 all. 02:42 < mnemoc> gn8 Don Miguel 02:42 * rxr sleeping too - cu today 02:42 < mnemoc> or Licenciado? 02:43 < mnemoc> n8 rxr 02:43 < Mike1> mnemoc: you can call me Master 02:43 < Mike1> :PP jk 02:43 < mnemoc> :o 02:43 < Mike1> mnemoc: just Mike / Miguel. 02:43 < Mike1> :) 02:43 * Mike1 gone 02:53 < george> cp: cannot stat `misc/tools-source/install_wrapper.sh': No such file or directory 02:53 < george> chmod: getting attributes of `build/default-2.0.0-beta3-x86-generic-expert/tools.cross/wrapper/install_wrapper': No such file or directory 02:53 < george> huh 02:57 < mnemoc> seems cliff forgot to commit it :D 02:58 < george> no, rene forgot to "svn add" it 02:58 < mnemoc> :-\ 02:59 < george> it is in CVS, however 02:59 < mnemoc> cvs update 02:59 < mnemoc> :) 02:59 < mnemoc> i don't have it yet 03:04 < esden> good evening 03:05 -!- someyung [~theknife@64.118.225.62] has joined #rocklinux 03:05 < someyung> is this channel about music? 03:05 -!- someyung [~theknife@64.118.225.62] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 03:06 < mnemoc> music :( 03:06 < esden> hmm .. that was a quicky 03:11 < esden> mnemoc: you probably want to hit me for my mail ... :-/ 03:11 < esden> I excuse me if you felt offended or so by it ... :-( 03:12 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: jose, n00kie 03:12 < mnemoc> don't worry ;) ... i would love a comment like that BEFORE clifford's 03:13 < esden> yes clifford overreacted once more ... 03:13 < esden> that is why I wrote a mail 03:13 < mnemoc> thanks :) 03:13 < esden> de nada ;-) 03:13 < mnemoc> my first intention with architecture/*/download.txt was avoidning packages like linux24-ben and not realy uml 03:14 < mnemoc> danke ;-) 03:14 < esden> if you ask me I really do not like the different kernel packages 03:15 < esden> and there will me more for example for rtai there will be another kernel package 03:15 < esden> I really hate that 03:15 < esden> but daja77 does not have another solution for that at the moment 03:16 < mnemoc> but... did you see the rsbac package? 03:16 < esden> nope ... 03:17 < esden> what is it? 03:17 < mnemoc> a security patch for kernel 03:17 -!- Netsplit over, joins: n00kie, jose 03:17 < mnemoc> i also have pacakges for vserver, ipvs, grsecurity and LIDS 03:17 < mnemoc> i guess rtai can be applied in the same way 03:18 < mnemoc> i forgot freeswan... that's a kernel patch too 03:18 < esden> hmm ... talk with daja77 about it 03:18 < esden> perhups you will find a solution for rtai together 03:19 < mnemoc> i did it a couple of weeks ago, but i don't know if he understood my pseudo-english explanation :( 03:20 < esden> hmm ... try it once more please 03:20 < mnemoc> ok :) 03:20 < esden> thanks 03:21 < mnemoc> bitte 03:21 < esden> hehe 03:21 < esden> ok ... I should move over to bed *yawn* 03:21 < mnemoc> gn8 03:21 < esden> I whish you a nice day/night whatever 03:21 < esden> n8 03:22 < mnemoc> n8 *g* 03:26 * george moves to another computer 03:26 -!- george [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 03:26 -!- george [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:07 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090B5D1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:10 < jose> mnemoc: good morning! 04:12 < jose> esden: do you survive to Mike1 and daja77 !, congrats! 04:12 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090B5F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:15 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@www.digital-dictators.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:15 < holyolli> moin 04:16 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802D2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04:16 < mnemoc> hi holyolli, jose 04:17 < jose> mnemoc: salu2 a la madre patria! 04:18 < holyolli> hi mnemoc 04:18 < mnemoc> jose: why? today is an important day somewhere? 04:20 < mnemoc> i not good on history :( 04:22 < mnemoc> my box sounds like a truck :( 04:31 < n00kie> morning :) 04:31 < holyolli> hi nookie 04:32 < n00kie> Hi holyolli 04:32 < mnemoc> hi nookie 04:32 < n00kie> hola mnemoc :) 04:33 < mnemoc> :P 04:33 < n00kie> how are you ? 04:33 < mnemoc> bored as hell... and working as an slave :( 04:33 < n00kie> ah, hehe 04:34 < n00kie> take a break :) 04:34 < george> what are you doing, mnemoc? 04:34 < mnemoc> doing a managment system (web-based) in c# :\ 04:35 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@www.digital-dictators.de] has quit ("reboot") 04:35 < mnemoc> mmm... but... i'll take the break :) 04:36 < george> wanna change (here it's 4.30AM)? 04:36 < n00kie> 10:30pm :) 04:37 < n00kie> I would go to bed again 04:37 < mnemoc> no thanks... 10:30 here too 04:37 < mnemoc> too?? <-- forget that 04:37 < george> *grin* 04:39 < mnemoc> brb 04:39 < george> hurray, 50% fiber coupling efficiency! I can go home now. 04:39 < mnemoc> ? 04:39 < mnemoc> are you at work? 04:40 < george> I'm a physicist, trying to get light from a pulsed laser source in to a glass fiber... 04:40 < mnemoc> beautyful :) 04:40 < george> What I'm doing is pretty dangerous, so I'm working in the night when nobody 04:40 < george> is around. 04:41 < george> (dangerous for the eyes) 04:41 < mnemoc> uff 04:42 < n00kie> sounds interresting george :) 04:42 < george> yep! 04:43 < mnemoc> good luck... i'll go to bed now ;) 04:43 < george> and vv. 04:44 < n00kie> sleep well, george 04:44 < george> nookie: btw, what are you doing at this time? 04:44 < george> gn8 all, going home now too! 04:45 < n00kie> george: Standing up, doing my thinks (shower, ...), breakfast et cetera 04:45 < n00kie> i must go out at 6 04:45 < george> what a life... 04:45 < mnemoc> 1:30 hour? how far should you go? 04:46 < jose> mnemoc: web-app in C# ?, the micro$hit ? 04:47 < n00kie> mnemoc: School 04:47 < george> nookie: coding before breakfast? 04:47 < n00kie> Sometimes :) 04:47 < george> just crazy people around: I LIKE THAT!!! 04:48 < mnemoc> hehe.... 'gn8' 04:48 < n00kie> sleep well, george 04:49 < george> thanks, happy learning 04:49 < george> gn8 all 04:49 < n00kie> :) 04:49 -!- george [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("today is another day") 05:18 < n00kie> hmm 05:38 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802BB2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:47 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F6A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 05:47 -!- baka-chibi [blindcoder@pD958F6A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:47 -!- baka-chibi is now known as blindcoder 05:50 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M280P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:52 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M281P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 06:28 < netrunner> moin 06:49 < fronti> moin 06:49 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M281P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06:58 < fronti> .o( building rocklinux needs more than 5 GB disk space.. ) 08:17 * netrunner childishly waits for his new case to arrive to fit his board in :) 08:31 < _NULL_> morning *yaaaaaawn* 08:42 < netrunner> good morning 0 08:44 < _NULL_> ni netrunner 08:55 * netrunner was so tired this morning that he went to the varsity almost an hour early. 08:56 < _NULL_> hehe. why were you so tired? 08:57 < netrunner> _NULL_: dunno. maybe to much beer in conjunction with xp-horror-trip yesterday ;) 08:58 < _NULL_> netrunner: tststs. you should not "ertraenken your frust" :p 09:00 < netrunner> well, it was not my xp, but I am held responsible for what it did. :( 09:01 < _NULL_> huh? why this? 09:02 < _NULL_> (btw, don't compile glibc or other critical stuff, if you're feeling almost dead (--> extremely tired) /me killed her rocklinux with that, yesterday night) 09:04 < netrunner> _NULL_: I have no problem with glibc, it compiles in only one day :) 09:05 * netrunner can't wait to get his new system up and running, maybe just run it without case? 09:07 < _NULL_> netrunner: :p /me had no problems with glibc too... but... aehm. i thought that i chrooted in my new system (lfs) - but wasn't and compiled it on my host system... but... glibc shot my system :/ 09:11 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:14 < _NULL_> gnaaaaaaaaa. today is a bad day 09:15 < netrunner> _NULL_: no, this hour is far to early! 09:16 < _NULL_> or so... 09:16 < _NULL_> or - too less caffeine/teain/whatever in the blood 09:21 < kasc> caffeine == teaine ;) 09:21 < kasc> btw: moin 09:21 < _NULL_> kasc: whatever. moin 09:21 < kasc> no, caffeine != whatever ;-P 09:23 < _NULL_> ... 09:30 < rxr> re 09:30 < kasc> moin rxr 09:31 < netrunner> hi rxr 09:31 < _NULL_> hi rxr 09:33 < netrunner> hm ... some girl next to me seems to be a real bunny .. eating carrots the whole time *crack* *crunch* *crunch* *noise* 09:33 * netrunner cannot sleep under such conditions :) 09:36 < _NULL_> lazy student, you are not allowed to sleep during lessons :p 09:37 * _NULL_ np: alien sex fiend - now i'm feeling zombified (*looking in the imagionary (???) mirror) 09:48 < netrunner> yes - sniped a graka for my system :) (or 2, anybody needs the other one? ;) 09:48 < _NULL_> depends on which graka it is... 09:49 < netrunner> matrox g450 dualhead pci 16MB (afaik framebuffer works well with those) 09:50 < _NULL_> for free? 09:50 < netrunner> _NULL_: no, not really :) 09:51 < _NULL_> than not... 10:03 < netrunner> ah ... finish 10:08 -!- Be-El [~blinke@elwood.Genetik.Uni-Bielefeld.DE] has joined #rocklinux 10:08 < Be-El> hi ppl 10:09 < _NULL_> hi Be-El 11:01 < daja77> re 11:07 < _NULL_> hi daja77 11:07 < Be-El> moin daja77 11:15 < daja77> hi _NULL_ && Be-El 11:15 < _NULL_> hi da && ja && 77 11:15 < daja77> :p 11:16 < daja77> I haven't split you up, have I? 11:18 < _NULL_> daja77: nope. not jetzt. 11:18 < _NULL_> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaeh. yet 11:18 < daja77> lol 11:19 < _NULL_> cat /dev/owl/brain 11:19 < _NULL_> cat: /dev/owl/brain: No such file or directory 11:19 < daja77> _ && N && U && L && L && _ 11:19 < daja77> :p 11:20 < _NULL_> daja77: :pooo 11:20 < _NULL_> :pppppppppp i menat 11:20 < daja77> lol 11:21 < _NULL_> (dammit. i 'm not able to hit the correct keys) 11:21 < daja77> ack 11:22 < _NULL_> .oO(not overclocked, but overworked *grml*) 11:23 < daja77> poor _NULL_ 11:25 < _NULL_> ack 11:28 < daja77> .oO I am here with _NULL_ alone *frightened* 11:30 * Be-El hides in a corner and watches what's going on 11:30 < daja77> Be-El: Feigling! 11:31 * daja77 puts his cold feet on his warm computer 11:31 * Be-El puts some hot coffee into his warm stomach 11:32 < daja77> well I should have breakfast, cu 11:36 < rxr> cu daja77 11:47 -!- Be-El is now known as BL|mampf 12:01 < rxr> now the dRock homepage has a fix for WinIE6 - and has less typos to be more w3c conform 12:01 < rxr> any comments ? 12:06 -!- lowks [~lowks@219.93.24.31] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:20 -!- BL|mampf is now known as Be-El 12:21 < Be-El> re 12:22 < rxr> cu later 13:09 -!- george [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:09 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:09 < george> hi. 13:10 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has joined #rocklinux 13:10 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@ki-fw.inferenzsysteme.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:58 < _NULL_> somone already has the problem that "no more PTYs" occurs, when using screen? 13:58 < _NULL_> s/has/had 13:58 < Be-El> nope 13:59 < _NULL_> dammit. :-/ 13:59 * Be-El hands _NULL_ some spare /dev/ptys 13:59 < Be-El> _NULL_: how many screen to your actually run ? 14:00 < _NULL_> Be-El: screen as in screen-3.9.9 or ...? 14:00 < _NULL_> do you mean /dev/pty/m$number? 14:01 < Be-El> _NULL_: nope, the number of screens as listed by 'screen -list' 14:01 < _NULL_> Be-El: no screen. because it's showing me the error and quits... 14:01 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14:01 < _NULL_> https://the-null.de.vu/LFS/4.1/error-log/ << if you're interested in the error-output ;p 14:06 < george> _NULL_: take this down, somebody may brute force decode your password 14:08 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has joined #rocklinux 14:08 < _NULL_> george: a) it's a temp passwd. b) i'm behind a firewall at company c) i'm not connected to inet with this machine 14:08 < george> _NULL_: ok 14:09 < george> _NULL_: a bit paranoia saves bytes... 14:09 < Be-El> _NULL_: can you add the output of strace -f ? something happens after forking, but that's not part of the logs 14:11 < _NULL_> Be-El: ok.. moment 14:14 < _NULL_> screen_f_strace.log 14:17 < daja77> away 14:17 < daja77> *argh* 14:17 < daja77> re 14:17 < _NULL_> wb daja77 14:17 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M276P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 14:17 < _NULL_> hi n00kie 14:17 < Be-El> _NULL_: [pid 4180] open("/usr//etc/screenrc", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 14:17 < daja77> hx _NULL_ 14:18 < Be-El> _NULL_: this one looks strange to me.... 14:18 < Be-El> re daja77 14:18 < Be-El> hi n00kie 14:18 < daja77> thx Be-El 14:18 < n00kie> Hi you both 14:19 < george> hehe, --etcdir=PREFIX/... 14:19 < daja77> hi george 14:19 < george> hi daja77... 14:19 < daja77> ...? 14:19 < george> I found out, why I can't even do stage 0 on my SuSE box, guess what? 14:20 < daja77> yeah no devfs 14:20 < Be-El> _NULL_: and it tries to open /dev/pty??....does you use a devfs-aware version of screen ? 14:20 < george> it was bash. bash-2.05b is okay, while bash-2.05 not 14:20 < daja77> *argh* fscking suse 14:20 < _NULL_> Be-El: i dunno... 14:21 < daja77> Be-El: not that I know of 14:21 < Be-El> _NULL_: is this a rock version of screen ? 14:21 < _NULL_> Be-El: nope 14:21 < Be-El> hmm....a rock linux installation ? ;-) 14:21 < _NULL_> Be-El: nope. LFS 14:21 < Be-El> or some mad process eating up all your /dev/pty??s ? ;-) 14:22 < Be-El> _NULL_: hmm...strange 14:22 < Be-El> _NULL_: check with lsof which process occupies the pty device nodes..... 14:22 < george> daja77's athlon <-> _NULL_: what's the status? 14:22 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14:23 < Be-El> _NULL_: in a usual environment, screen should use the pty multiplex master to allocate a pty, instead of trying all nodes 14:23 < daja77> well minimal build is ready, but a need bootdisc target to produce a bootable cd :( 14:23 < _NULL_> george: the sttus is, that i'm having a system which is broken... (my host system... not the lfs) 14:23 < Be-El> _NULL_: and try adding some more pty devices, if you do not use the /dev/pty filesystem 14:23 < george> _NULL_: I guess Be-El is right, try copying /etc/screenrc to /usr/etc/screenrc 14:24 < _NULL_> Be-El: hm. screenrc isn't there... 14:25 < daja77> george: i am doin now bootdisc build iso should be ready today :) 14:26 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has joined #rocklinux 14:26 < _NULL_> gnaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. yesterday i must have been blind 14:26 < _NULL_> (there is a screen-3.9.15) 14:26 < daja77> afaik you were indeed 14:26 < george> daja77: so I have to hurry up to install a ftp server... 14:27 < _NULL_> daja77: i don't speek about the glibc-crap happend ;p 14:27 < daja77> hmm no I have a web server, that should be enough 14:28 < daja77> george: but my connection is just isdn so be patient :) 14:28 < george> daja77: |-))) 14:28 < _NULL_> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!!! 14:28 < daja77> hehehe 14:28 < _NULL_> this fscking screen-3.9.15 works 14:28 * _NULL_ getting a gun and kills herself 14:29 * daja77 grabs some tape for _NULL_ 14:29 < _NULL_> daja77: tape? 14:29 < george> daja77: building rock excludes being impatient 14:29 < daja77> to put it over your mouth and make you quiet 14:29 < daja77> george: :))) 14:30 * george is away: coffee injection 14:30 < daja77> hehe 14:30 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14:30 < daja77> the chan ghost :) 14:30 < netrunner> hm ... should I wait for the case or should I slaughter another pc to get power supply for my new board ... 14:30 < _NULL_> george: give me a coffee too, please. guess i need it... 14:31 < netrunner> _NULL_: come here, I just made some _strong_ coffee 14:31 < daja77> netrunner: slaughter! 14:31 < rolla> re 14:31 * daja77 wants coffee too 14:31 < daja77> hi rolla 14:31 < netrunner> daja: but ... what holds me is that he is bravely building rock for 1 week now... 14:31 < _NULL_> netrunner: ok. no. come here... and bring espresso with you, please. thx 14:32 * daja77 gives coffer to _NULL_ if she stops screaming 14:32 < netrunner> _NULL_: so where do you live? 14:33 < daja77> in the woods... 14:33 < daja77> :) 14:33 < _NULL_> netrunner: currentl i'm at work, in munich 14:33 < _NULL_> daja77: *kick* 14:33 < daja77> ouch 14:34 * netrunner begins to think that every rocker is in munich :) 14:34 < daja77> NO! 14:34 * Be-El hands _NULL_ a nice, balanced soft foam club 14:35 * daja77 checking the weather in Munich 14:36 < _NULL_> netrunner: nope i'm not a rocker anymore... :p 14:36 < daja77> @MoTux> Weather Munich, Deutschland: L bewölkt, 12°F Wind : aus dem 14:36 < daja77> Westen mit 16 km/h 14:36 < _NULL_> Be-El: foam club? 14:36 < netrunner> daja77: mixed. 5 metres hail, 5m sun, 5m rain ... 14:36 < _NULL_> daja77: feels like -10 °C - at least i'm frozen 14:36 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has joined #rocklinux 14:36 < Be-El> _NULL_: yeap...for bashing people...it 14:36 < Be-El> it 14:36 < Be-El> it's more fun than kickin' them 14:37 * daja77 tries the foam club on Be-El 14:37 < Be-El> .oO ( i'm absolutely sure that enter key wasn't there before..... ) 14:37 < Be-El> daja77: "Access denied" 14:37 < daja77> haha please try again ;) 14:38 < daja77> O_o I can't remember having subscribed redhat security mailinglist 14:39 < netrunner> daja77: oh, I entered everybody there, thought it'd be interesting :P 14:39 < _NULL_> daja77: *lol* /me not too... but i'm also getting redhat-mails 14:39 * netrunner -> shopping 14:39 * george is back (gone 00:09:34) 14:39 < daja77> _NULL_: hehe redhat likes us :) 14:40 < _NULL_> daja77: ack 14:40 < _NULL_> netrunner: have fun 14:41 < _NULL_> uff... one hour and a half remaining... than i can sleep ... too long *argh* 14:41 < daja77> ?? 14:42 < daja77> *argh* intel mails sucks 14:42 < _NULL_> daja77: you doN#t undandt me today. i'm venten not understanding the output of my brain, myselfe 14:42 < daja77> looool 14:42 < george> *lol* 14:42 < Be-El> cat _NULL_ | sort 14:42 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has joined #rocklinux 14:43 < daja77> perl -e _NULL_.pl 14:43 < _NULL_> pfffff :p 14:43 < zer0_o> hi all 14:43 < daja77> hi zer0_o 14:43 < Be-El> daja77: Can't locate Coffe.pm in @INC 14:44 < zer0_o> =) 14:44 < _NULL_> hi zer0_o 14:44 < daja77> Be-El: bad luck :P 14:45 < daja77> merge zer0_o && _NULL_ *ggg* 14:45 < zer0_o> ??????? 14:45 -!- george [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("back soone") 14:46 < zer0_o> deja allways thinks of sex =P 14:46 < _NULL_> daja77: why? 14:46 < daja77> I am only interested in the output... 14:46 < daja77> hmm cos it would be fun 14:46 < _NULL_> daja77: *kick* 14:46 < daja77> ;) 14:48 -!- george [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:48 < daja77> wb george 14:49 * george continues pumping photons into glass fibers 14:50 < daja77> hehe 14:51 < zer0_o> deja .. the output mostly is a baby =P 14:51 * _NULL_ np: alien sex fiend - now i'm feeling zombified... (one mor type) 14:51 < daja77> omg 14:53 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14:56 < zer0_o> ? zombified ?? 14:56 < _NULL_> zer0_o: zombified... totally zombfied 14:56 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has joined #rocklinux 15:01 -!- Be-El is now known as BL|away 15:01 < daja77> great bootdisc build has reached stage 3, so only a few hours left ... 15:07 < daja77> *lol* 18rolla daja77: what does zundfolge mean? 15:07 < daja77> :) 15:11 < zer0_o> what do you mean with zombified ? *g* 15:13 < daja77> zer0_o: the state you reach if you somehow survive a kill -9 ;) 15:13 < _NULL_> zer0_o: feeling like a zombie (and also looking like one) 15:13 < _NULL_> daja77: ack 15:14 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:15 < daja77> *argh* this sucks 15:15 < _NULL_> *g* Parabull is the scnd. zombie of #rocklinux i guess 15:15 < daja77> who is the first? 15:16 < _NULL_> daja77: who? /me 15:16 < daja77> ah ic hmm strange 15:16 < daja77> _NULL_: but you talk... 15:17 < _NULL_> daja77: jup. talking... but ... but... with aeh. some sweet errors 15:17 < daja77> hehe sweet indeed 15:18 < _NULL_> daja77: yeah. i'm responsible for that people have to laught something/someone about. 15:18 < daja77> hmm thought that was my job... 15:19 < _NULL_> daja77: nope. it's mine. want a fight, eh? 15:19 < daja77> yeah sure 15:19 * _NULL_ preparing to fight with daja77 15:20 * daja77 hits _NULL_ with BL|away's foam club 15:20 * _NULL_ owns: sword, black magic power, helmet *hrhr* 15:20 < daja77> uh black magic 15:20 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@ki-fw.inferenzsysteme.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit ("Client exiting") 15:21 * daja77 runs away from _NULL_ 15:21 < _NULL_> *hrhr* 15:21 * _NULL_ stops daja77 with the black magic 15:21 * _NULL_ takes her sword and kills the stopped daja77 with it 15:21 * daja77 picks up his head and screams 15:22 < daja77> @MoTux> Weather Magdeburg, Deutschland: L bewölkt, 16°F Wind : aus 15:22 < daja77> dem Nordwesten mit 26 km/h 15:22 < daja77> *argh* shit wrong window 15:28 * daja77 throws his bloody head at _NULL_ 15:29 -!- Caspar [~steven261@212186221172.teleweb.at] has joined #rocklinux 15:29 < daja77> hi Caspar 15:29 < Caspar> hi 15:30 < _NULL_> i Caspar 15:30 < _NULL_> +h 15:30 < Caspar> :) 15:30 < daja77> ih Caspar? 15:30 < daja77> *hrhr* 15:30 < _NULL_> daja77: *kick* 15:30 < _NULL_> sort the letters by yourself. 15:30 < _NULL_> i'm givign it up 15:30 < daja77> hehe 15:31 * Caspar has been hacked :( 15:31 < _NULL_> Caspar: uh 15:31 < daja77> ?? 15:32 < Caspar> some guy from 80.97.95.196 has hacked my system and was running a password cruncher :( 15:33 < daja77> Caspar: reinstall that box 15:34 < Caspar> *sniff* thats easier said than doing so ... it's a machine i can't turn off 15:34 < daja77> Caspar: you have to turn it off anyway, a cracked machine is no benefit 15:34 < Caspar> i know 15:35 < daja77> so turn it off, and reinstall! 15:35 < Caspar> but the websites running on that box have to be online ... so i've to rebuiild the box on a second machine and switch over ... 15:36 < daja77> *argh* you really dare bein online with a cracked box 15:37 * daja77 getting a coffee 15:37 < daja77> brb 15:46 -!- trekkie3k [~k3t@pD9502DCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:50 < daja77> re 15:54 < daja77> hmm bash is in a strange mood today... 15:55 < _NULL_> <-- goping home 15:55 < _NULL_> trekkie3k: eh!! you're here? O_o 15:55 < daja77> _NULL_: have fun ;) 15:55 < daja77> cu 15:55 < _NULL_> daja77: thx. bye 15:55 < daja77> bye _NULL_ 15:55 < daja77> hi trekkie3k 15:56 < trekkie3k> hi :) 15:59 -!- BL|away is now known as Be-El 15:59 < Be-El> re 15:59 < daja77> wb Be-El 16:02 < daja77> wtf 16:03 < Be-El> #define feierabend 1 16:03 < Be-El> cu later ;-) 16:03 < daja77> lucky bastard :) 16:03 < daja77> cu 16:03 < Be-El> lucky ? i 16:03 < daja77> not? 16:03 < Be-El> i'm going to continue at home.... 16:03 < daja77> work on rock? 16:04 < Be-El> nope....working on an installation-system for one of our applications 16:04 < daja77> :( 16:04 < Be-El> about 130.000 lines of perl code ;-) 16:04 < daja77> *urgs* 16:05 < Be-El> ok, 20.000 of them are auto-generated ;-) 16:05 < daja77> ahem please don't tell me details... 16:05 < Be-El> *g* 16:05 -!- Be-El [~blinke@elwood.Genetik.Uni-Bielefeld.DE] has quit ("Client Exiting") 16:05 < Mike1> Good day all. 16:06 < n00kie> Good Morning, Mike1 :) 16:06 < Mike1> :) 16:06 < daja77> Hola Miguel 16:07 * Mike1 ready to run a new build on the 4x2.4ghz box :) 16:20 < zer0_o> _NULL_: do you like looking like a zombie 16:21 < daja77> zer0_o: _NULL_ is away 16:21 < rolla> all users must die 16:21 < daja77> rolla: ?? 16:21 < zer0_o> daja77: aha.. 16:22 < daja77> zer0_o: don't believe me, do a /whois 16:24 < zer0_o> what does she train ? 16:24 < daja77> she drives home by train 16:24 < mnemoc> daja77: what problem did you have applying rtai as a package? (like rsbac) 16:25 < rolla> daja77: users are dumb and need to die 16:25 < rolla> 16:25 < rolla> The linux kernel is full of our stolen code. I triple guarantee you - it 16:25 < rolla> is all over the place! We're giving them a real lesson today. Heavy 16:25 < rolla> doesn't accurately describe the level of casualties we have inflicted. I 16:25 < rolla> will show you the stolen code - IN ONE HOUR! 16:25 < rolla> 16:25 < rolla> Mohammed al-Sahaf (now SCO press spokesman) 16:25 < rolla> too funny 16:25 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has left #rocklinux () 16:25 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:25 -!- cOdEz [~codez@p50907C38.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:25 < rolla> re 16:26 < mnemoc> sco code in linux kernel? 16:26 < rolla> that is what they are saying 16:26 < rolla> go to slashdot if you want more 16:26 < daja77> sco is the dumbest company I know 16:26 < rolla> well dah 16:27 < daja77> mnemoc: only 2.4.20 is supported by rtai 16:28 < mnemoc> but... how hard is to 'port' it to 2.4.21? 16:28 < daja77> omg it is raining cats and dogs here 16:28 < mnemoc> daja77: have you asked them for a patch for 2.4.21? 16:28 < daja77> mnemoc: nope 16:29 < mnemoc> i guarranty you they are not waiting the 2.4.21 release for start working over it ;) 16:30 < daja77> dunno, /me checking their cvs 16:30 < mnemoc> ask them :) 16:30 < daja77> mnemoc: they are conservativly releasing 16:31 < mnemoc> not taking about a release, talking about an internal 'port' of current stable interface to the next kernel version 16:31 < daja77> I know but there is no official 2.4.21 release... 16:33 < daja77> no patch in cvs 16:33 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M276P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:34 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M276P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 16:35 < mnemoc> i'll check out that pacakge now... just to take a look 16:35 < daja77> :) 16:35 < rolla> == 08:57:31 =[5]=> Building x11/mozilla [1.3 2.0.0-beta3]. 16:35 < daja77> everything else is ready here 16:35 < mnemoc> but ASK THEM... or ask alesssandro to ask them ;) 16:36 < daja77> alessandro is involved in rtai? 16:36 < mnemoc> i guess he studied at politecnico di milano 16:37 < daja77> :) 16:37 < mnemoc> and... he can do the request in italian ;) 16:37 < daja77> yeah but that isn't necessary 16:38 < mnemoc> i hate the idea of adding more linux24-* packates 16:38 < daja77> mnemoc: I won't add a package just replace it, and do a seperate release 16:39 < mnemoc> i'll try to solve your problem in the elegant way :) 16:40 < daja77> yeah sure but time is short in that case :( 16:42 < mnemoc> your problem was appling the patch or building the kernel? 16:42 < daja77> hmm what do you think should I try to do the patch myself based on the diff I have 16:43 < mnemoc> first: i'll see what files reject to apply 16:43 < mnemoc> then patch the patch is necesary ;) 16:43 < daja77> mnemoc: ? 16:44 < daja77> i don't get your idea sorry 16:44 < mnemoc> when you apply a patch, you get {success, offsets, rejects} 16:44 < daja77> ah k. 16:45 < mnemoc> you have to check if rejects are patchables to apply to current version 16:45 < daja77> hmm we will see, checking, will take some time :) 16:46 < mnemoc> if you can do that in your super-fast computer it will take less :) 16:46 < daja77> hmm I have only a p4 here, but should be sufficient 16:47 < daja77> at work 16:47 < Mike1> someone mentiones super fast computer? 16:47 < Mike1> :P 16:47 < daja77> Mike1: :p go on with coding 16:47 < mnemoc> :o 16:47 < Mike1> daja77: sorry i was staring at the window for a moment and couldn't avoid to tease mnemoc 16:47 < daja77> lol 16:47 < mnemoc> daja77: apply it in --dry-run againt the vanilla... just to see the rejects 16:48 < Mike1> greetings mnemoc :) 16:48 * Mike1 back to code.. 16:48 < mnemoc> Buenos dias Licenciado 16:48 < daja77> O_o 16:48 < n00kie> wb Mike1 :) 16:48 < mnemoc> .cr people tells 'licenciado' like other people of that area? 16:48 < zer0_o> ? 16:49 < zer0_o> i saw my face.. whats up? =) 16:49 < daja77> zer0_o: :ppp 16:51 < mnemoc> daja77: that shit is not a patch :S 16:52 < zer0_o> where is the text about stolen code ? 16:52 < daja77> huh? 16:52 < daja77> mnemoc: ?? 16:52 < mnemoc> /. 16:52 < mnemoc> rtai is not a patch :| 16:52 < zer0_o> ah 16:52 < daja77> mnemoc: why 16:53 < daja77> well of course it is more than just a patch 16:53 < mnemoc> there are files inside, it a patched kernel and not a patch to kernel 16:53 < daja77> mnemoc: don't worry about rtai, I am working on it, and have nearly finished 16:53 < daja77> mnemoc: nack 16:55 < mnemoc> nack? 16:57 * mnemoc reading README 16:57 < daja77> mnemoc: the kernel patches are in the patches dir 17:01 < mnemoc> daja77: this patch has to be applied in postpatch hook... with a function included from rtai's parse-config 17:01 < daja77> mnemoc: already done 17:02 < mnemoc> don't forget to distinguish archs 17:02 < mnemoc> (what a chaos) 17:02 < zer0_o> i'm updating a zyxel router with 9600 baud, it takes 24 minutes .. crazy.. ;) 17:03 < daja77> mnemoc: only x86 is supported now 17:03 < daja77> mnemoc: the hard part was to offer rtai configs to rock dialogs 17:04 < jose> morning 2 all 17:04 < daja77> this is a dirty hack at the moment, but I am running out of time 17:04 < daja77> hi jose 17:04 < mnemoc> so you can cleanly apply it to 2.4.21-rc2 and you whan to enable it? 17:04 < mnemoc> s/whan/want/ 17:05 < daja77> mnemoc: ? 17:05 < mnemoc> you are patching 2.4.21-rc2 succesfully from rtai's parse-config? 17:06 < mnemoc> are you? 17:06 < daja77> no I tried with 2.4.20, it worked, now I have to port to 2.4.21-rc2 17:07 < mnemoc> do you know how to CONFIG_RTHAL=y in parse-config? 17:08 < daja77> hmm I dunno what you are talking of, i told you everything worked fine with 2.4.20 17:08 < mnemoc> ok 17:12 < george> cu in a few hours 17:12 < mnemoc> bye 17:13 < daja77> cu george hope iso is ready then 17:14 < george> daja77: desperately waiting for it..., cu (btw, thanks in advance) 17:14 < daja77> np 17:14 -!- george [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 17:14 < rolla> e 17:14 < daja77> +r 17:14 < daja77> re rolla 17:15 < rolla> :) 17:20 < zer0_o> i go home 17:20 < zer0_o> bye all =) 17:20 < daja77> cu zer0_o 17:20 < zer0_o> bye =) 17:20 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has quit ("Client Exiting") 17:23 < rolla> grrrr 17:24 < daja77> rolla: what's up? 17:27 < daja77> *argh* sco wants to sue Linux users, they lost their mind completely 17:29 < mnemoc> they are trying to 'exist' 17:30 < daja77> die sco die! 17:30 -!- Caspar [~steven261@212186221172.teleweb.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:30 < daja77> mnemoc: these morons trying to exist with crappy software 17:33 < mnemoc> they are almost beliving they 'create' unix ;) 17:34 < daja77> lol yeah 17:42 < n00kie> mm 17:42 < n00kie> anyone using micq? 17:44 < jose> looks like anyone is using other thing! ;_( 17:59 < daja77> *argh* damn slow nic 18:49 -!- jose [~jose@196.40.45.146] has quit (SendQ exceeded) 18:50 -!- jose [~jose@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux 18:51 < rolla> == 11:50:35 =[5]=> Building gnome2/gimp14 [1.3.14 2.0.0-beta3]. 18:52 < Mike1> ping esden 18:53 < daja77> Mike1: I currently try to port rtai to linux-2.4.21-rc2 ;) 18:53 < Mike1> daja77: fun? :) 18:53 < daja77> yeah doin such stuff the first time, wish me luck 18:53 < Mike1> good luck 18:54 * Mike1 back to code.. 18:54 < daja77> thx Mike1 18:54 < daja77> have fun 18:55 < Mike1> i am :) 18:55 < Mike1> daja77: and rxr will have fun too once i commit my patches *vbeg* 18:56 < Mike1> s/commit/submit 18:57 < daja77> as long as you don't commit new kernels 18:59 < Mike1> daja77: those won't be update patches.. 18:59 < daja77> Mike1: explain 18:59 < daja77> or you mean bugfixes? 18:59 < Mike1> just wait and see :) 18:59 * daja77 hates that 18:59 < Mike1> yes i mean bug/typos/blah fixes 19:00 < daja77> okis 19:00 < Mike1> daja77: my update patch bombs are on hold untill 2.0 is released and we have 2.1 19:01 < daja77> hehehe 19:14 < _NULL_> re 19:14 < daja77> lol 19:14 < daja77> <@daja77> !decide RedHat RockLinux 19:14 < daja77> @MoTux> The obvious choice is: RockLinux. 19:15 < daja77> re _NULL_ 19:15 < _NULL_> hm. still no errors until now - in typing i meant... O_o 19:18 < daja77> *lol* reading kernel src is fun 19:21 < _NULL_> daja77: why? 19:23 < daja77> extern int is_sony_vaio_laptop; 19:23 < daja77> EXPORT_SYMBOL(is_sony_vaio_laptop); 19:24 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M276P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:25 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9E123F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:26 < tsa> hi all 19:27 < _NULL_> hi tsa 19:28 < daja77> hi tsa 19:45 < jose> hi tsa, how is your mtu today! :_) 19:47 < tsa> 1492. 19:48 < rxr> re 19:48 < Mike1> hi Ren 19:50 < daja77> hi rxr 19:50 < _NULL_> hi rxr , hi Mike1 19:50 < daja77> damn this proting takes ages 19:50 < daja77> porting 19:51 < rxr> cu in some minutes 19:52 < Mike1> :| 19:55 < jose> when i'm closing one socket, is it good idea to shutdown(s,1) and then close ? 19:59 < rolla> == 12:58:38 =[5]=> Building gnome2/abiword20 [1.9.0 2.0.0-beta3]. 20:00 < rolla> slow and steady wins the race 20:00 < daja77> hehe 20:01 < daja77> well if george comes back, could someone point him to https://lospalmos.homelinux.net/minimal/ 20:02 < daja77> please 20:04 < Mike1> daja77: the link is down 20:04 < daja77> huh, I can reach it from here 20:04 < Mike1> mm 20:05 < daja77> well and please do not download 20:05 < Mike1> ok it works 20:05 < daja77> fine 20:05 < daja77> again please do not download 20:06 < Mike1> thanks. 20:06 < daja77> sorry it is just isdn 20:06 < daja77> so downloading takes ages, and I want to help george :) 20:13 * Mike1 is away: eating 20:15 < rxr> re 20:19 -!- baka-chibi [blindcoder@pD958F1CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:19 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F6A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: baka-chibi!blindcoder@pD958F1CC.dip.t-dialin.net))) 20:19 -!- baka-chibi is now known as blindcoder 20:20 < _NULL_> hi blindcoder 20:26 < daja77> *puh* well 60% ported, have to leave now, will finish tomorrow 20:28 < daja77> bye bye 20:30 < rolla> == 13:27:47 =[5]=> Building rene/xsane [0.90 2.0.0-beta3]. 20:33 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M266P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 20:39 < tsa> daja77: what are you parting to? 20:39 < tsa> porting 20:46 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D02D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:48 < rxr> 680 builds total, 660 completed fine, 20 with errors. 20:48 < rxr> -beta3 desktop build ... 20:51 < tsa> show errors. 20:51 < tsa> any of my packages? 21:00 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Ge0rG, netrunner, daja77, tfing, praenti, _NULL_, fronti, capchaos, blindcoder, tsa, (+11 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 21:00 -!- Netsplit over, joins: tcr, n00kie, blindcoder, tsa, cOdEz, Ge0rG, netrunner, kasc, _NULL_, rxr (+11 more) 21:00 < rolla> == 13:59:13 =[5]=> Building rene/gpa [0.6.1 2.0.0-beta3]. 21:00 < tcr> Quite many netsplits in last days.. 21:01 < rolla> I have had 5 packages fail to build :( 21:04 -!- Be-El [be-el@pD95254BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:04 < Be-El> hi ppl 21:05 < tcr> moin 21:06 -!- cOdEz [~codez@p50907C38.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("brb") 21:07 < tsa> moib Be-El 21:07 < tsa> s,b,n, 21:12 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: tsa, blindcoder 21:12 -!- Netsplit over, joins: blindcoder, tsa 21:12 < tcr> Once again... 21:13 < tcr> https://perso.wanadoo.fr/cyberhome-help/linux-ms.jpg 21:13 < Be-El> *g* 21:14 < tsa> https://internet.ls-la.net/pictures/Traffic-Ticket-of-the-NPD.html 21:21 * Mike1 is back (gone 01:08:08) 21:21 -!- Lorini [~andrea@p3EE218EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #RockLinux 21:22 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dclient80-218-41-225.hispeed.ch] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:24 < rolla> re Mike1 21:24 < Mike1> re all 21:24 < Be-El> hi Mike1 21:24 < rolla> I have 5 broken packages 21:25 < Mike1> Burkhard :) 21:25 < Mike1> rolla: which ones? 21:26 < tsa> hm....uucp is pretty cool. 21:27 < n00kie> sleep well guys :) 21:27 < tsa> cu n00kie 21:27 < Be-El> cu n00kie 21:27 < n00kie> Sleep well, Mike1, tsa, rxr, Be-El, and all the others :) 21:27 < rolla> small ones 21:28 < rolla> 3-coreutils.err 21:28 -!- k3t_ [~k3t@pD9005726.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:28 < rolla> 5-galeon12.err 21:28 < rolla> 5-gimp14.err 21:28 < rolla> 5-lame.err 21:28 < rolla> 5-sylpheed.err 21:28 -!- trekkie3k [~k3t@pD9502DCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: k3t_!~k3t@pD9005726.dip.t-dialin.net))) 21:28 -!- k3t_ is now known as trekkie3k 21:28 < Mike1> n00kie: sleep well?? 21:29 < Mike1> rolla: mmm... coreutils... 21:29 < Mike1> brb 21:30 < n00kie> Mike1: I'll go to bed 21:30 < n00kie> <- Tired 21:31 < rolla> Mike1: yeah but stage 5 coreutil builds :) 21:31 -!- george [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:31 < george> re 21:33 < tcr> LOL, "Cola für Allah" 21:33 < tcr> Scheibenwischer is great! 21:34 < rolla> ? 21:35 < rolla> == 14:17:00 =[5]=> Building kde31/qt31 [3.1.2 2.0.0-beta3]. 21:36 < rolla> the waiting starts 21:36 < rolla> slow kde build 21:36 < tcr> rolla: Scheibenwischer (windscreen wiper) is a great satire serie in german tv.. 21:36 < Be-El> rolla: add --enable-final to kde-31.conf 21:37 < daja77> george: https://lospalmos.homelinux.net/minimal/ 21:37 < rolla> tcr cool 21:37 < rolla> Be-El: ? 21:37 < rolla> is it going to break? 21:37 < daja77> tsa: I port rtai to the 2.4.21-rc2 kernel 21:38 < tsa> ah 21:38 < rolla> and if it does I don't install KDE anyway just that the remove apps function in rock 1.7-2.0B sucks the big one 21:38 < tcr> rolla: Even a jest you can understand has been made some minutes ago... Some pun about G. Bush and 'ambush' as in 'I am Bush' 21:38 < Be-El> rolla: kde31 packages are build without --enable-final, which extremely speeds up things 21:38 < Be-El> .oO ( and sometimes breaks the build ;-) ) 21:39 < daja77> re btw 21:39 < rolla> tcr :) 21:39 < rolla> Be-El: I will keep that in mind thanks 21:39 -!- Lorini [~andrea@p3EE218EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Angels are bright still, though the brightest fell.") 21:41 < Be-El> *sigh* why does updating gcc/glibc/linux always breaks my build tree.... 21:41 < daja77> george: ping 21:42 < daja77> ah ic 21:42 < daja77> :) 21:42 < george> daja77: download in progress, 21:42 < george> daja77: btw, hi 21:42 < daja77> hehe I noticed 21:42 < daja77> slow connection ;) 21:42 < daja77> have fun 21:43 < george> I WILL! 21:44 -!- Lorini [~andrea@p3EE218EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #RockLinux 21:44 < daja77> hehe sure 21:45 < daja77> wb Lorini 21:46 < george> Q: intel_rng (Intel i810 Hardware Random Number Generator daemon), where shall I put it, into x86 or my own repository? 21:48 -!- Be-El [be-el@pD95254BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:48 < tsa> x86 (IMHO) 21:50 -!- Lorini [~andrea@p3EE218EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Angels are bright still, though the brightest fell.") 21:50 * jose is so happy, writing his chat server in c ! :-) 21:50 < rxr> george: x86 please 21:51 < rxr> or into base if it also works for the amd one and so on ... 21:51 -!- Be-El [be-el@pD95254BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:51 < Be-El> re 21:52 < george> rxr: I'll check if there's any i810 for AMD, but I don't think so... 21:54 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M266P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:55 < tsa> re Be-El 21:55 < tfing> hi 21:56 < daja77> hi tfing :) 21:56 < tfing> is there another solution to the escape characters in man page viewed with less other than less -R ? 21:57 < tcr> That's still alive? 21:58 < tfing> at least on my system with up to date groff 21:58 < tcr> Hmm 21:59 < tcr> Well, once jimmy patched some package, downgraded groff -- some time later he upgraded it again with the assurence it should work now (haven't ever bothered again since that) 21:59 < daja77> rxr: I think I can send the patch with realtime target tomorrow 22:02 < tcr> tfing: (if the mail archive wasn't so crappy, you could search for it... but..) 22:04 < tfing> i just remembered clifford saying that less -R wasn't a solution and that nothing followed 22:06 < tcr> No, jimmy took a look at it, and as a result provided a patch (against less or man, dunno) and stated that groff has to be downgraded 22:06 < rxr> tfing: we still have this less -R thing in the source 22:06 < tfing> but it did not reached the cvs 22:06 < rxr> tfing: feel free to investigate this wohle mess ... 22:06 < tcr> tfing: Let me try to find his mail again 22:07 < rxr> Committed revision 255. 22:07 < daja77> omg 22:08 < rxr> daja77: merges from the list 22:08 < rxr> daja77: sure feel free to send your patch ;-) 22:08 < george> rxr: why is tcl and tk in one pkg? 22:08 < tfing> https://www.rocklinux.org/mailing-list/rock-linux/2003-1/269.html 22:08 < rxr> george: don't now - it always has been ... 22:09 < rxr> george: should we change this ? 22:09 < daja77> rxr: sure 22:09 < george> I have it already split up in my tree here. 22:09 < george> But where to put tcl (it contains a shell...)? 22:10 < tcr> tfing: Yeah, and some message above that mail, there's the patch 22:11 < tcr> tfing: https://www.rocklinux.org//mailing-list/rock-linux/2002-11/217.html 22:11 < tfing> google indexes well the mailing list archive :) 22:11 < tcr> So he actually didn't speak for an upgrade... Hmm 22:13 < rxr> Committed revision 256. 22:14 * daja77 smiles 22:14 < tfing> https://www.rocklinux.org/mailing-list/rock-linux/2002-10/3.html 22:15 < tfing> hmmm 22:15 < tfing> i will put a -R in my etc/profile 22:16 < rxr> tfing: alternatively investigate the whole issue - and cross validate what other dists or OS (BSD*) do ... 22:18 < tfing> will try to see that 22:19 < tcr> tfing: ftp://groff.ffii.org/pub/groff/groff-1.19.tar.gz 22:19 < tcr> tfing: Maybe the new version fixes this problem (though I didn't succeed in finding anything by looking briefly through the changelog) 22:20 -!- Lorini [~andrea@p3EE218D5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #RockLinux 22:23 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D02D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:23 < Mike1> *yawn* 22:23 < daja77> wb Mike1 22:25 * daja77 tired too 22:25 < tsa> hm....what does this register_* stuff do that has been added to some of my packages? 22:27 < Be-El> tsa: looks like a registry for certain things, e.g. window manager 22:28 < tsa> this is needed for what? 22:28 < Be-El> dunno...perhabs a list of all window manager to choose from ? 22:28 < tsa> do we get a regedit.exe, too? 22:29 < Be-El> yeap...that's what the wine package is for 22:29 < tsa> hehe 22:29 < rxr> tfing: nope regedit == $EDITOR 22:30 < tfing> ver 1.19 does not solve the pb 22:30 < tsa> hm...registering an WM could be useful for {xdm,kdm,wdm,gdm,..} 22:30 < tsa> but why are some applications registered? 22:30 < Be-El> tsa: i think that's why it was introduced... 22:32 < tsa> ethereal and opera are now "registering" themselves, my other packages don't do this... 22:33 < Be-El> ihmo it would be more useful to introduce runtime dependencies... 22:33 < tsa> which leaves us with two basic questions: 1.) why are apps registered? 2.) where's the difference between registered and non-registered apps? 22:33 < tsa> rxr? 22:36 < tfing> https://www.gnu.org/software/groff/groff.html 22:36 < tfing> Note that you have to use the '-R' option of 'less' to make SGR escapes display correctly. 22:39 < rxr> mom 22:40 < tfing> To revert to the old behaviour, use the '-c' switch. 22:40 < tfing> so there should be a less -R or a roff -c 22:41 < tfing> from the man.conf: 22:41 < tfing> |# If you have a new troff (version 1.18.1?) and its colored output 22:41 < tfing> |# causes problems, add the -c option to TROFF, NROFF, JNROFF. 22:42 -!- Lorini [~andrea@p3EE218D5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Angels are bright still, though the brightest fell.") 22:43 < Be-El> hmm..over half an hour for building xfree.... 22:43 * Be-El wants make -j 4 22:43 < tsa> hm..judging from a quick grep, this registry stuff is used nowhere... 22:45 < tsa> topic broken? 22:45 < tsa> $ svn co https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/ 22:45 < tsa> svn: Bad URL passed to RA layer 22:45 < tsa> svn: Unrecognized URL scheme: "https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk" 22:45 < tfing> tsa: compile neon 22:46 < tfing> then recompile svn 22:46 < tsa> *argh* 22:46 < tsa> do i have to install kde to make this work, too? 22:46 < tfing> :) 22:46 < tfing> only kcalc :) 22:46 -!- jose [~jose@196.40.45.146] has quit ("[BX] BitchX is as BitchX does") 22:47 < Be-El> tsa: touch build/*/root/var/adm/logs/*dirtree*; ./rock_maintail -r *fg* 22:47 < Be-El> maintain even 22:47 < tsa> Be-El: no, i've found a better solution. 22:47 < tsa> ok, problem solved. 22:48 -!- LocalHero [~alexander@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux 22:48 < tsa> hi alexander 22:48 < Mike1> greetings Alex 22:48 < LocalHero> Hi :) 22:48 < LocalHero> Whats up? 22:48 < Be-El> hi LocalHero 22:48 < Mike1> the sky 22:49 < LocalHero> Ahh, at last, i have completed part of this semesters schoolwork. Now i finaly have a free weekend. Well, not free im planing on doing some html :) 22:49 < LocalHero> Mike1: LOL 22:49 < Mike1> LocalHero: you asked :) 22:49 < LocalHero> Mike1: :) 22:49 < LocalHero> Anybody have any isos ready yet= 22:49 < Mike1> i have tons of isos :) 22:50 < daja77> yeah minimal build 22:50 < daja77> target 22:50 < tsa> hm...i'm a little bit annoyed that _every_ change in a ROCK Linux minor version number imposes a change of the way the master repository has to be used. 22:50 < Mike1> LocalHero: got hd space for me? 22:50 < tsa> (.tgz -> rsync -> cvs -> svn) 22:50 < LocalHero> Mike1: sure. I think so, let me check :) 22:50 < tsa> what will come next, bk? 22:51 < tsa> <hint> freebsd's using cvs since it's beginnings..</hint> 22:51 < Mike1> [mike@nemesis rock-trunk]$ svn up 22:51 < Mike1> svn: RA layer request failed 22:51 < Mike1> svn: REPORT request failed on '/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk' 22:51 < Mike1> svn: REPORT of '/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk': timed out waiting for server (https://schillernet.dyndns.org) 22:51 < Mike1> [mike@nemesis rock-trunk]$ 22:51 < Mike1> rxr: ?? 22:51 < daja77> tsa: you seem to be angry 22:51 < LocalHero> Im working on this new system to uplaod isos. What do you think about this. A person that has a iso let me know to get a username and pw to the iso site 22:52 < Be-El> tsa: after testing svn i would say it's an improvement over cvs...it's noticeable faster in synching trees 22:52 < tsa> daja77: not really... 22:52 < daja77> hehe 22:52 < LocalHero> Then he gets this secret instruction to upload the file to the ftp in the upload dir. After that he logs into a page and marks the file and add some info and wahoo, we got a new iso :) 22:53 < daja77> george: would you up load minmal iso, when you got it? 22:53 < Mike1> LocalHero: do i still have the admin user you have created for me over 1 year or so ago? 22:53 < tsa> Be-El: what's 2 minutes sync time compared to days of building and rebuilding because of broken dependencies..? 22:53 < LocalHero> Mike1: I think so, i will remove them this week and start the system all over :) 22:53 < daja77> gn8 you all 22:53 < Be-El> cu daja77 22:54 < LocalHero> Mike1: but you can ftp upload them to iso.rocklinux.de/.upload/ 22:54 < LocalHero> Mike1: I currently have 3gb free on that disc 22:54 < tsa> the main problem seems to be that the maintainers don't use all the features a revision control system provides, like branches, release tagging, different versions in one repository etc.. 22:54 < Be-El> LocalHero: doesn't the iso image itself contain information about its content ? 22:55 < tsa> ( i would appreciate write access for my packages, for example) 22:55 < LocalHero> Be-El: Well that is true. But if you are planing on downloading a iso you dont want to speend all day downloading it just to se that it didnt was what you wanted 22:55 < tsa> LocalHero: you found porn movies on the iso site? ;-)) 22:56 < Be-El> LocalHero: the upload mechanism should check it...e.g. by a hourly cron job that looks for new isos, scans them and puts them onto the webpage 22:56 < Be-El> LocalHero: and removes unwanted pr0n, too ;-) 22:56 < LocalHero> tsa: Hehe, well i think a manual version is better. Then we can make sure that no unauthorised isos are put there 22:57 < Be-El> .oO ( or moves them to ~/root/recreation, your choice ;-) ) 22:57 < LocalHero> :) 22:58 < LocalHero> The thing with the upload dir is that you cant see it with ls and you can only upload to it, not read or delete so i dont think anybody would waste time uploading things there 22:58 < tsa> Be-El: hm.... 22:59 < Mike1> LocalHero: how much disk space do you have in total? 22:59 < LocalHero> Well we will se after this weekend. My girlfriend has an essay to write so i can do some coding without beeing interupted :) 22:59 < LocalHero> Mike1: 2x40gb 22:59 < Mike1> LocalHero: and you only have 3gb available 22:59 < Mike1> :(( 22:59 * Mike1 thinks its to get LocalHero a 200gb hd.. 23:00 < LocalHero> I wounder if we could get some sponsors, it would be nice to have a couple of real nice computers that could do nightly boilds or something. Im planning on calling some companies to get them to sponsor us? Any idees? 23:00 -!- cOdEz [~codez@p50905A13.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:00 < Mike1> LocalHero: yes beg for hardware :) 23:01 < Mike1> LocalHero: talk to Jocelyn, she could help you with PR stuff and ideas to get sponsors 23:01 < LocalHero> Mike1: Well currently i have problem with allocating the space. The ftp drive is on one disc and the rest on the other. So you can say i only have contributed with 40gb to the project :) 23:02 < Mike1> LocalHero: jyeo@linuxmail.org <--- Jocelyn 23:02 < LocalHero> I also think that we could clean up some old pre isos to get some more space 23:02 < LocalHero> Mike1: Ok i will talk to her :) 23:02 < Mike1> :) 23:03 < LocalHero> Mike1: Who is she by the way? Your secret lover maybe :) 23:03 < Mike1> LocalHero: please respect she is married to a good friend of mine 23:04 < Mike1> LocalHero: she is the ROCK PR person in charge 23:04 < Mike1> LocalHero: https://www.rocklinux.org/people/esden/gallery/ 23:04 < Mike1> LocalHero: you will find her there 23:04 < LocalHero> By the way. I was thinking of maybe upgrading to serial ata on my home computer. Does anybody know if the new promise controllers will work on 2.4? I couldnt find any drivers for them :( 23:04 < LocalHero> Mike1: :) 23:05 < LocalHero> Mike1: ahha, oki, i will send her a message :) 23:07 < Mike1> LocalHero: good 23:08 < LocalHero> Well, need to take a bath now. I cut my hair today and now i got those small hair things irretating my neck :) 23:09 < LocalHero> Cya all :-) 23:09 < Mike1> cu Alex 23:09 -!- LocalHero [~alexander@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has quit ("Client Exiting") 23:09 < rxr> back 23:10 < Be-El> .oO ( man 1 vacuum cleaner....) 23:10 < Mike1> welcome back 23:10 < Mike1> rxr: svn: REPORT of '/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk': timed out waiting for server (https://schillernet.dyndns.org) 23:11 < rxr> Mike1: works here .. 23:12 < rxr> tsa: the register-* think 23:12 < daja77> *argl* my routing box was fsck up 23:12 < Mike1> rxr: mm... 23:12 < daja77> george: can please do a wget -c, sorry 23:12 < tsa> rxr: looks like it's not used anywhere. 23:12 < rxr> we have register_wm - so that all wm's show up in the various graphical login managers 23:13 < rxr> tsa: they are _new_ thay start to get used 23:13 < rxr> the register_app thing is for a nice sorted application tree to be shown in KDE GNOME WindowMaker, blackbox ... whatever environment 23:13 < tsa> rxr: what about register_app? 23:13 < tsa> ah 23:14 < rxr> since KDE and GNOME have only some defaults and the others have even few 23:14 < Be-El> rxr: kde got kappfinder.... 23:14 < rxr> so we want to provide a menu entry with the useful ones (read not any toy stuff only the reasonable stuff) 23:14 < tsa> so why is {opera,ethereal} registered, but other packages aren't {nessus}? 23:15 < daja77> Mike1: can you tell george, I really must go now, the server is up again, btw could you verify this 23:15 < rxr> tsa: none is registered yet - because I rejected all of those patches ... 23:16 < Mike1> daja77: yes is up. 23:16 < tsa> ack. 23:16 < tsa> <- just sent a nack, too. 23:16 < daja77> Mike1: thank you very much, I hate fscking up routers 23:16 < rxr> tsa: theoretically any app can be registered - but we should keep care the this does not become a big mess - so we should only register really usefull ones ... 23:17 < daja77> Mike1: ok please tell him, gn8 23:17 * tsa considers nessus to be pretty useful ;) 23:18 * daja77 waves 23:18 < Mike1> n8 daja77 23:18 < tsa> xchat too, btw ;) 23:18 < Mike1> rxr: something is wrong with ur svn, it really doesn't work, neither from here, canada or singapore... 23:19 < rxr> can anyone here in .de confirm that my schillernet.dyndns.org does not work ? 23:20 < Be-El> works fine for me 23:20 < Mike1> damn routing problems... 23:20 < Be-El> but the svn does not work 23:20 < Mike1> Be-El: thats what i ment 23:21 < Mike1> rxr: so i am not the only one. 23:22 < rxr> a yes - I'll take a look in some seconds 23:22 < Mike1> rxr: please :) 23:27 < Be-El> anyways...i'm off now 23:28 < Be-El> cu tommorw 23:28 < Be-El> +o 23:28 -!- Be-El [be-el@pD95254BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 23:29 < rxr> Recovery is running, please stand by... 23:30 -!- cOdEz [~codez@p50905A13.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 23:31 < rxr> I think it is time to setup te hot-mirroring to gsmp.tfh-berlin.de - for speed and backup reasons ... 23:42 < george> Mike1,daja77: sorry, I was interrupted. Got the message... 23:43 * george is away: busy --- Log closed Fri May 16 00:00:55 2003