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--- Log opened Mon May 19 00:00:48 2003
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00:20 < mnemoc> dummy question: there is a 'BSD'-kernel or linux is used? url?
00:21 < mnemoc> mmm... i found one :( ....
00:21 * mnemoc is a dummy
00:22 < mnemoc> /clean
00:22 * jsaw even not understanding question... mnemoc not necessarily _the_ dummy ;-)
00:23 * jsaw is away: busy
00:48 < esden> good night everyone ...
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00:48 < holyolli> moin
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04:18 < jose> which file can I cat in /proc to know about my fragmentation statistics ?
04:21 < mnemoc> no idea
04:25 < jose> mnemoc: are you using 100Mb/ethernet ?, if true; what is your mtu ?
04:25 < mnemoc> dsl
04:26 < mnemoc> usign the classic 1500
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04:31 < n00kie_> Morning :)
04:32 < mnemoc> 'morning' nookie
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05:23 < n00kie_> hehe mnemoc :)
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06:48 < blindcoder> moin
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07:37 < netrunner> moin
07:42 < blindcoder> moin moin
09:25 < _NULL_> moin
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10:07 < rxr> re
10:07 < _NULL_> hi rxr
10:08 < blindcoder> moin rene
10:08 < blindcoder> hrm.... I don't want to rebuild Apache >_<
10:08 < blindcoder> rxr: is it possible to only update apr?
10:25 < netrunner> moin _NULL_
10:25 < _NULL_> hi netrunner
10:44 < rxr> blindcoder: hm - why do you need to only update apr ?
10:44 < rxr> blindcoder: it might be possible to do so - but you need to try yourself ...
10:45 < blindcoder> rxr: because subversion needs apr V0.9.3 or newer. I have 0.9.2
10:49 < _NULL_> get Nine_Inch_Nail_-_Hurt.mp3
10:50 < _NULL_> AAARGH
10:50 < blindcoder> hehe
10:51 < _NULL_> blindcoder: that's not funny *grml* all looks black here... 4 puttys are too much ;p
10:53 * blindcoder hands _NULL_ a `screen`
10:54 < _NULL_> blindcoder: won#t help... 1) aszlig.net, 2) ancoras, 3) disaster1, 4) sftp -> aszlig.net :p and on win there is no screen
10:55 < blindcoder> well... that's a shame
10:57 < _NULL_> hmmm
10:58 < netrunner> _NULL_: use cygwin with screen.
10:59 < _NULL_> netrunner: hmm... yes. i could do it... but... hm. dunno. egaaaal
11:00 < _NULL_> *falling asleep in the office* *yawn*
11:26 < rxr> 687 builds total, 545 completed fine, 7 with errors.
11:38 < netrunner> rxr: I currently have failed: 5-wv2.err 5-mozilla.err 5-galeon12.err 5-gimp14.err 5-sylpheed.err 5-abiword20.err (still building) and 461 gems
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11:43 < netrunner> wv2 misses libgsf-1, mozilla complains compiler cannot create executables, galeon misses mozilla, gimp14, sylpheed and abiword have problems during compile
11:46 * netrunner -> home
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11:57 < rxr> netrunner: most of this is already fixed yesterday in my tree ...
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12:05 < rxr> 687 builds total, 568 completed fine, 8 with errors.
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12:16 < rxr> Committed revision 310.
12:33 < daja77> moin
12:54 < rxr> moin daja77
12:57 < rxr> does someone here has some python basics ?
13:04 < ringo78> rxr: Do you need to get something done in pt ?
13:09 < rxr> yes
13:10 < rxr> I a subversion script I have this:
13:10 < rxr> my @difflines = &read_from_process($svnlook, 'diff', $repos,
13:10 < rxr> '-r', $rev, @no_diff_deleted);
13:10 < rxr> and I need to throw difflines thru the binary program diffstat
13:10 < rxr> how to do? ;-)
13:12 < ringo78> Hmm ok have to dissapoint you now :(
13:12 < rxr> ah mom - this is perl ...
13:13 < rxr> why is half of the scrpits in perl and the other in python ... - confusing ...
13:13 < ringo78> Thought you wanted to potr it to python :)
13:14 < rxr> ringo78: no the script has some more lines - I only want to adapt a few things ...
13:15 < ringo78> can you do it perl ?
13:16 < rxr> ringo78: I think so ... /me just reading
13:16 < ringo78> okis :)
13:29 < blindcoder> houston... we have a problem
13:29 < blindcoder> https://heise.de/newsticker/data/tol-19.05.03-002/ (german)
13:33 < rxr> hm
13:34 < rxr> blindcoder: when we get into troubles with Linux we'll switch to hurd or so ... ;-)
13:34 < blindcoder> rxr: hehe, good idea :)
13:34 < ringo78> Great impulse for hurd :)
13:34 < blindcoder> or we just plug in a BSD kernel
13:43 < rxr> yes maybe ROCK 3.0 will no longer be named "Linux" and includes selecting a FreeBSD kernel or Hurd ;-)
13:44 < blindcoder> wouldn't be half bad
13:44 < _NULL_> :-((( that is abosoluetely bad (the news)
13:46 < rxr> yes
13:46 < rxr> A REALLY REALLY _BIG_ _FULL_ ACK
13:47 < rxr> Committed revision 311.
13:48 < _NULL_> np: exploited - law for the rich (*grrrrr* M4$0$0f7)
13:48 * blindcoder will now try recompiling Apache2
13:54 < _NULL_> which "geldgeiles" asshole has such ideas?!!!!?
13:59 < blindcoder> rxr: the problem would be building a FreeBSD on a Linux System... hrm... long live cross-compiling :)
14:00 * _NULL_ is lucky to still have not a system (yet)
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14:04 < blindcoder> subversion compile try #3
14:07 < esden> hi all
14:07 < blindcoder> moin esden
14:07 < blindcoder> welcome to another shitty monday :)
14:09 < esden> hmm ... it was not _soo_ shitty
14:09 < rxr> blindcoder: if you only want a client - do not specify an external apache or bdb patch
14:09 < rxr> jsut to a clean ./configure without anything than prefix
14:10 < blindcoder> rxr: I tried ./scripts/Build-Pkg
14:10 < blindcoder> esden: read /. already?
14:11 < blindcoder> esden: then you'll be rolling on the floor laughing :D
14:11 < esden> blindcoder: nope not yet
14:12 < rxr> blindcoder: but the /. story != heise story
14:12 < blindcoder> rxr: yes, they... 'differ' a bit...
14:12 < esden> which /. article do you mean? The m$ unix one?
14:12 < rxr> on heise the claim M$ bought the license, where /. only speaks about microsoft licensed Unix thing
14:13 < blindcoder> rxr: as usual when it comes to heise they're exaggerating greatly
14:13 < blindcoder> rxr: just think of heises "Virus in Linux kernel. AV-Companies dubbed it: ptrace."
14:15 < blindcoder> == 05/19/03 14:14:50 =[9]=> Finished building package subversion.
14:15 < blindcoder> WEE
14:15 < blindcoder> after only 4 tries :)
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14:20 < blindcoder> hrm... the interesting part is yet to come... merge rock-trunk with rock-src-1.7-blindcoder ._<
14:20 < blindcoder> hi Lor
14:20 < blindcoder> hi Lorini
14:20 < blindcoder> I'm getting lazier and lazier :)
14:20 < Lorini> hi blindy
14:22 < esden> hi Lorini
14:23 < rolla> re
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14:36 < Lorini__> sorry..
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14:41 < _NULL_> O_o
14:41 * _NULL_ feels reminded to good old 56k-times...
14:43 < blindcoder> why?
14:44 < _NULL_> blindcoder: because of the quit/join/quit/join/^10
14:48 < rolla> :)
14:49 < blindcoder> hrm
14:50 < blindcoder> "rein, raus, vor, zurueck.... da kennt sich doch kein Schwanz mehr aus." -- A friend of mine, during a game of bzflag
14:50 < _NULL_> *lol*
14:50 < _NULL_> .oO(men....)
14:51 < blindcoder> _NULL_: what? He was complaining about an enemy tank waddling back and forth.
14:51 < blindcoder> What were you thinking?!
14:51 < _NULL_> nothing, nothing
14:51 < blindcoder> good :-)
14:52 < _NULL_> blindcoder: :p
14:52 < blindcoder> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2.9M May 19 14:51 ../rock.diff
14:52 < blindcoder> hrm... I should update more regularly
14:56 < blindcoder> hrm... will merge at home...
14:56 < blindcoder> and going home now :)
14:56 < blindcoder> baba
14:57 < _NULL_> bye lazy blindcoder
14:57 < rolla> == 07:36:56 =[5]=> Building gnome2/gimp14 [1.3.14 2.0.0-beta3].
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15:09 < _NULL_> C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check << someone knows this stupid error and how to solve it? (CPP=/static/bin/cpp) *hrm*
15:13 < netrunner> hmmm ... 5-kdemultimedia failed because of typos in /usr/include/asm/byteorder.h and byteorder/swab.h ??
15:13 < rolla> damn
15:15 < _NULL_> oh goth... failed because of typos?!!! O_o
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15:17 < cOdEz> hi
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15:25 < daja77> re
15:27 < netrunner> *yes* my matrox dh's have arrived *unpack*
15:30 < daja77> hi rxr, esden
15:37 < rolla> == 08:16:53 =[5]=> Building rene/subversion [0,22,0 2.0.0-beta3].
15:37 < rolla> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
15:37 < rolla> -> Preparing build in src.subversion.1053350211.13598.922190713
15:37 < rolla> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-subversion.out
15:37 < rolla> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-subversion.out -> 5-subversion.log
15:37 < rolla> == 05/19/03 08:24:28 =[5]=> Finished building package subversion.
15:37 < rolla> cool now I can test svn
15:38 < daja77> hi rolla
15:38 < rolla> :)
15:45 < daja77> rxr: maybe we should switch to minit, we wouldn't have sco trouble with, even when using linux kernel
15:46 < rxr> daja77: the init thing is the only thing SCO claims to own ?
15:47 < daja77> afaik yes, they speak of their rights on sysv init style
15:49 < daja77> ...Beweise zu haben, dass Codeteile aus Unix System V in die Linux-Quellen kopiert wurden.
15:50 < rxr> phh? and for this tiny brain dead thing they wanna ha zillions ?
15:50 < rxr> daja77: yes - but where do you read init style ?
15:51 < daja77> hmm in other messages, this is not the first...
15:51 < rxr> daja77: I have not yet read what they claim to be copied ...
15:51 * daja77 diggin..
15:51 < rxr> Committed revision 314.
15:51 * rxr away - cu later
15:52 < rxr> daja77: feel free to past a URL into a querry ;-)
15:52 < _NULL_> bye rxr
15:52 < daja77> rxr: have fun, like top talk to you later ;)
15:52 < daja77> to
15:59 < rolla> == 08:56:19 =[5]=> Building base/shadow [4.0.3 2.0.0-beta3].
16:07 < rolla> is ctags needed?
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16:29 * netrunner -> inlining
16:29 < _NULL_> have fun, netrunner
16:30 * daja77 outlining *ggg*
16:30 < blindcoder> 50% of the diff are pure *cache files? ARGH
16:32 * daja77 vomiting
16:32 < daja77> https://www.sco.com/scosource/letter_to_linux_customers.html
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16:36 < daja77> ooops have i scared him...
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16:40 < rolla> == 09:38:29 =[5]=> Building base/openssh [3.6.1p2 2.0.0-beta3].
16:45 < rolla> daja77: you here?
16:45 < rolla> I want to know if ctags is a required package
16:45 * daja77 here
16:45 < daja77> rolla: dunno
16:46 < _NULL_> wtf is ctags?
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16:47 < daja77> rolla: it failed here too
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16:48 < daja77> *looool*
16:48 < rolla> daja77: hmmm
16:48 < rolla> I have had 11 packages fail so far and that is only one I am not sure about
16:49 < daja77> the sco lawyers made a mistake on filing ibm...
16:56 < jose> good morning everyone! (8:50am here!)
16:57 < daja77> hi jose
16:59 < jose> hi daja77!, is everything ok! ?
17:00 < daja77> hmm no
17:01 < jose> why ?!, the day is begining!?, didn't ?
17:01 < daja77> it is 17:00
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17:02 < jose> and what is wrong ?
17:02 < daja77> my head, sco, my realtime patch ...
17:05 < Mike1> huhu.
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17:07 < jose> daja77: do you work at www.sco.com ?
17:08 < daja77> nah, I don't work for that bunch of idiots
17:08 < daja77> hey Mike1
17:08 < Mike1> :)
17:09 < jose> daja77: then why are you mad ?, are you using sco ?
17:09 < daja77> jose: I am _not_ mad, but I am using linux, and are pissed by their letter
17:09 < Mike1> letter?
17:10 < daja77> yeah scroll back ;)
17:10 < Mike1> daja77: nah ;-)
17:10 < daja77> I don't wanna pollute this chan a second time with this crap
17:10 < daja77> Mike1: just a few lines
17:11 * jose reading the letter
17:13 < rolla> == 10:04:44 =[5]=> Building kasc/openh323 [1.4.11 1.11.7].
17:14 < daja77> *argh* anyone knows a mirror for tldp.org?
17:14 < jose> daja77: so funny this sco people, they are going to end linux!!, wtf, the really end!, hoo my good!...
17:15 < daja77> jose: they lost their mind, and pissing everybody, they shall die quietly!
17:16 * daja77 currently laughing at their complaints list
17:18 < daja77> but somehow this reminds me of ms' halloween papers
17:21 < rxr> re#
17:21 < daja77> re rxr
17:21 < jose> daja77: does www.linux.org/docs/ work for you?
17:22 < daja77> hmm no :(
17:22 < jose> daja77: https://doc.nl.linux.org/
17:23 < daja77> ah no, and I am no dutch
17:25 < daja77> but thx anyway
17:25 < jose> np
17:26 < capchaos> www.linux.org/docs? works...
17:26 < daja77> yes but it is not a mirror of tldp.org
17:28 < capchaos> https://www.rootboard.de/LDP/index.html
17:29 < Mike1> hallo rxr
17:30 < daja77> hey thx capchaos
17:31 < rolla> Mike1:
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17:39 < jose> daja77: you are right today seems to be one of this days....
17:40 < rxr> Committed revision 315.
17:40 < blindcoder> rxr: *argh* it just took me over an hour to merge with rev 311 >_<
17:41 < jose> one server is really fuckup! and the backup is not working :-(
17:51 < rxr> blindcoder: why did it take so long? What do you have locally ?
17:59 < blindcoder> rxr: I had not updated in about 4-6 weeks and my own local tree with some things I want but that don't or didn't get into mainstream rock
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17:59 < blindcoder> like some patches against coreutils, kernel, mutt and a few other things
18:00 < zer0_o> hi all =)
18:00 < daja77> hi zer0_o
18:01 < zer0_o> soon, we have to pay licences to sco =P
18:01 < daja77> zer0_o: hehe no
18:01 < blindcoder> zer0_o: no. We'll just replace linux24 with hurd or bsd :P
18:01 < daja77> blindcoder: nope not even that
18:02 * daja77 don't want another kernel *horror*
18:02 < blindcoder> daja77: yeah... linux was hard enough to learn :)
18:02 < blindcoder> but if my packages compile I don't really care...
18:02 < rolla> 16 broken packages :(
18:02 < blindcoder> I don't need much... X11, mplayer, a shell, xterm and mldonkey :-)
18:03 < daja77> this is not a matter of learning, why should I use an inferior kernel
18:03 < esden> hmm ... /me has a feeling that everybody is loughing at me since I posted my proposal for a description ... >_<
18:03 * daja77 points and laughs at esden
18:03 * blindcoder laughs at esden to not disappoint him
18:03 < esden> *sigh*
18:04 < blindcoder> esden: who is laughing?
18:04 < esden> I only see everybody talking about the kernel replacement ... perhups I misunderstand you ...
18:05 < esden> but I thought that it may be because you find it ridiculous
18:05 < blindcoder> esden: we're talking about SCO, not about your proposal
18:05 < esden> good so ...
18:06 < blindcoder> esden: personally I would think it's a very good thing to have different kernels in ROCK (not ROCK Linux) as a long-term goal
18:06 < esden> I am not as importaint as I started to believe ... good ... /me falls a stove from his heart
18:06 < daja77> well read https://www.sco.com/scosource/complaint3.06.03.html and relax (by laughing)
18:06 < blindcoder> esden: what are you currently suffering from? oversized ego? or intoxication?
18:07 < blindcoder> nonono
18:07 (Users #rocklinux)
18:07 [ _NULL_ ] [ cOdEz ] [ jose ] [ netrunner] [ rolla] [ tfing ]
18:07 [ aszlig ] [ daja77] [ kasc ] [ Parabull ] [ rxr ] [ vectrax]
18:07 [ blindcoder] [ esden ] [ Mike1 ] [ praenti ] [ SMP ] [ zer0_o ]
18:07 [ capchaos ] [ fronti] [ mnemoc] [ ringo78 ] [ snyke]
18:07 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 23 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 23 normal]
18:07 < blindcoder> I'm not in shapo for reading Legalese right now
18:07 < daja77> blindcoder: ?
18:07 < blindcoder> shapo
18:07 < blindcoder> shape
18:07 < daja77> blindcoder: but their claims are fun
18:07 < esden> I am suffering from the last dafake mail
18:07 < zer0_o> daja77: what about fbsd kernel ? isnt that good ?
18:07 < daja77> no!
18:07 < esden> his oversized ego goes on my nerves
18:08 < zer0_o> esden: whos ?
18:08 < blindcoder> esden: what's wrong with his mail?
18:08 < esden> zer0_o: noone ... only a minion ;-)
18:08 < daja77> blindcoder: they compare linux and unix, saying that linux is a bycicle and unix a luxury car
18:08 < blindcoder> zer0_o: Fake (Thomas Jakobi)
18:09 < blindcoder> daja77: maybe it is. A bicycle keeps you fit while a luxury car is a sign of decadence
18:09 * zer0_o laughts
18:09 < zer0_o> keep it real ,)
18:09 < tfing> hmmm, mldonkey has released a new version
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18:10 < esden> blindcoder: instead of writing ... "there are spelling errors, here my correction proposal" he has to post that "could the mistakes be corrected BEFORE it gets printed" I hate that kind of form
18:10 < blindcoder> tfing: hrm.. I'm running on CVS already. The new version must have a whole set of nice new features
18:10 < esden> perhups I am too sensitive
18:10 < tfing> they released 2.4 yes
18:10 < blindcoder> esden: just tell him that he shall do the work in the future.
18:10 < blindcoder> esden: or STFU
18:10 < esden> ?
18:10 < tfing> i should upgrade my package
18:10 < esden> ahh
18:10 < esden> ok
18:11 < blindcoder> hrm... *think*
18:11 < esden> my acronym expansion routine needs optimization
18:11 < blindcoder> a) drive to Selgros now, and have a beer later.
18:11 * daja77 gives icecream to esden
18:11 < blindcoder> b) drive to Selgros later and have a beer even later
18:11 < blindcoder> c) drive to Selgros tomorrew and have a beer now?
18:11 < esden> thanks daja77 ... now I am cooled down ;-)
18:12 < daja77> ;)
18:12 * -> esden is sooo cool ;-)
18:12 < blindcoder> esden: hint: STFU doesn't mean Star Trek Fleet University :-)
18:12 < n00kie> Howdy esden, daja77, blindcoder :)
18:12 < blindcoder> hrm... esden feet froze to the floor
18:12 < blindcoder> hi n00kie
18:12 < esden> blindcoder: yes all three ;-)
18:13 < blindcoder> /me blushes and gives esden a round-house kick
18:13 < daja77> esden in a strange mood...
18:13 < esden> daja77: as always ;-)
18:13 < daja77> hmm but worse today
18:13 < blindcoder> hrm... sweet... Majesty Linux Edition comes with Win32 Binaries...
18:13 < esden> daja77: hmm ... that is probably caused by too much learning
18:14 < daja77> exams?
18:14 < blindcoder> Downloading download/base/libsafe/libsafe-2.0-16.tgz ...
18:14 < blindcoder> hrm... I'll go to Selgros now
18:14 < blindcoder> bbl
18:14 < daja77> wtf is libsafe
18:14 < esden> daja77: yes one midterm exam
18:14 < daja77> blindcoder: have fun *vbeg*
18:14 < daja77> esden: subject?
18:14 < esden> have fun blindcoder
18:15 < esden> daja77: DS2
18:15 < daja77> Datenstrukturen?
18:15 < esden> Diskrete Strukturen
18:15 < daja77> oh holy shit
18:15 < esden> probability theory at its best
18:16 < daja77> strange why is pkgdisable not the counterpart of pkgenable
18:16 < esden> I now could implement probability based package building in rocklinux ... or probability based learning system in bash ;-)
18:17 < esden> it will learn from broken builds how to build them
18:17 < daja77> esden: please stop this!
18:17 < esden> "hello my name is makefile"
18:17 < esden> daja77: ??? o_O
18:17 * daja77 picks an axe
18:17 < esden> ehhm ... /me shuts up
18:17 < daja77> hehehe
18:20 < jose> this is strange, indent shouldn't recognice C ?, my src files are a mess!
18:20 < esden> so rewrite them jose
18:21 < jose> esden: look what indent did:
18:21 < jose> {
18:21 < jose> if (clients[i].socket)
18:21 < jose> {
18:21 < jose> close (clients[i].socket);
18:21 < jose> clients[i].socket = 0;
18:21 < jose> }
18:21 < jose> }
18:22 < daja77> hmm sweet
18:22 < esden> nice
18:24 < jose> fuck indent!, ..., i'm getting another indent!
18:25 * daja77 doesn't need indent ...
18:25 < esden> lool hedi ... she is always talking ... ROFL
18:26 < daja77> ??
18:26 < esden> my ex. I was watching some photos ... and on all of them she is talking
18:27 < esden> she does not know the term conversation ... she only knows monologue
18:28 < daja77> hehehe
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18:29 < esden> even kissing was not helping to stop her talking ... that was terrible
18:30 < daja77> esden: why she was your gf then?
18:30 < esden> I am so happy that she is my ex ... yahooo! *jumparound*
18:30 < esden> daja77: yes, back then
18:31 < daja77> esden: I can talk to you, if you like... *vbeg*
18:32 < esden> daja77: ehhm ... *no comment*
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18:33 * daja77 talks to esden this night ;)
18:33 < esden> hmm that is very nice of you
18:33 < zer0_o> don't get dirty
18:33 < esden> I could comment that more dirty ... but I leave that
18:34 < zer0_o> ;)
18:34 < esden> because I know one thing that wal helping to stop hedi to talk *FG*
18:34 < daja77> oh no /me does no dirty talking
18:34 < daja77> esden: what?
18:35 < esden> fsck ... she was always so tired after that that she could not talk ;-)
18:35 < daja77> *lol*
18:36 < zer0_o> hm, isn't it fun, when women talk a lot? then you don't have to talk a lot ;)
18:37 < daja77> zer0_o: yeah but what ybout your nerves?
18:37 < esden> zer0_o: she was talking too much
18:37 < daja77> strange vobis selling linux pcs *wonder*
18:38 < zer0_o> did she talk when you had sex too ?
18:38 < daja77> tststs
18:38 < zer0_o> serious...
18:39 < zer0_o> when she didn't then you could have more sex =P
18:39 < esden> zer0_o: nope ... that was I think the only moments she was not talking
18:39 < esden> s/was/were/
18:40 < daja77> hehe esden I could think evil things now, but I won't
18:40 < esden> tell me ... what evil things?
18:41 * daja77 hides
18:42 < esden> tell me!!
18:43 < rolla> == 11:26:51 =[5]=> Building kasc/clanlib [0.6.5-1 2.0.0-beta3].
18:43 < daja77> well I just thought that you had to do it more often, to waste more of her energy and make her stop talking that much...
18:44 < esden> daja77: often enough ;-)
18:44 * daja77 grins
18:44 * daja77 waiting for this fscking kernel package to fail
18:44 < esden> daja77: should I arrange a meeting for you?
18:45 < daja77> omg no, don't like too much talking girls, but thx anyway
18:46 < esden> you can make her stop talking ... everyone will be very thankfull for that ;-)
18:46 < daja77> hehehe, I don't wanna drive down to Munich just to mute a girl
18:47 < esden> daja77: you will have fun with it ... and it is less expensive then other facilities ;-)
18:47 < zer0_o> =))
18:47 < daja77> esden: explain
18:48 * daja77 should buy some tape to do that job...
18:48 < esden> tape? ... omg ... you like that type of games?
18:48 < esden> good to know
18:49 < daja77> esden: only for the mouth
18:49 < daja77> esden: interested? *ggg*
18:49 < esden> no thanks ... I prefere femails ;-)
18:49 * daja77 too
18:50 < daja77> hmm it would be the third bavarian girl I'd know only because of hanging around here *shiver*
18:51 < jose> somebody here does `java development'?
18:51 * daja77 screams and runs away
18:54 < esden> daja77: rofl
18:54 * rxr follows daja77 screaming even louder ...
18:55 < daja77> rxr: hehe you can't scream louder than me :p
18:56 < esden> hmm ... we should make a rocklinux screeming contest ;-)
18:56 < esden> when we meet the next time ;-)
18:56 < daja77> hmm Java equals Jehova, that means we can start the stoning...
18:56 < esden> as a social event
18:56 < daja77> yeah
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18:57 < blindcoder> WEE! Life can be so great sometimes :D
18:57 < daja77> blindcoder: why, you have your beer?
18:57 < blindcoder> daja77: A beer, Nachos and some "hot" dip :D
18:57 < n00kie> When was Mike1 last time "here"?
18:58 < daja77> *hmpf*
18:58 < daja77> !lastspoke Mike1
18:58 < daja77> some hours ago
18:58 < n00kie> !lastspoke
18:58 < n00kie> !lastspoke Mike1
18:58 < daja77> hehe only a joke
18:58 < n00kie> Ah :)
18:58 < n00kie> alright :)
18:58 < daja77> there is no bot here ;)
18:59 < tcr> moin all
18:59 < n00kie> I thought it's a script of esdens irssi ;)
18:59 < n00kie> Hola tcr
18:59 < tcr> --- [Mike1] idle 00:39:15, signon: Wed May 14 20:48:44
18:59 < daja77> except perhaps esden ...
18:59 < daja77> hi tcr
18:59 < n00kie> well
18:59 < n00kie> esden != bot
18:59 < n00kie> :)
19:00 < n00kie> or is he ?
19:00 < daja77> n00kie: sure?
19:00 < daja77> *lol*
19:00 < esden> I am not a bot!
19:00 < esden> I only sound so ;-)
19:01 < daja77> hehehe
19:01 < daja77> ;)
19:01 * daja77 hates this lame p4
19:01 < blindcoder> esden: this is due to lack of beer
19:01 * n00kie hates his athlon xp
19:02 < esden> blindcoder: ack
19:02 < esden> n00kie: no problem ... you can give it to me ;-)
19:02 < esden> n00kie: I take it with open arms ;-)
19:02 < tcr> Bots need beer to keep alive (knock.. knock.. I'm so futuramazed)
19:02 < n00kie> hehe
19:03 < esden> tcr: yes ... but it can be every kind of alcohol
19:03 < n00kie> esden: Well, If you give me athlon xp 1700 t-bred b jiuhb WBT Stepping :)
19:04 < tcr> esden: Beer is the prefered kind of fuel anyway
19:04 * blindcoder gives esden a few drops Methanol
19:04 < daja77> .oO I defintely talk too much much here *gg*
19:05 < esden> tcr: full ack
19:05 < esden> daja77: ? why?
19:05 < esden> daja77: so take a beer
19:05 < blindcoder> hrm nice... new kind of Axe Body-Lotion
19:05 < tcr> daja77: you mean, it leads to word duplication?
19:06 < blindcoder> Axe anti-hangover with Mg-O2 brings you back to life no matter hov sort the night was
19:06 < daja77> no I am just frightened about my rank in the stats...
19:06 * tcr isn't luckily a bot, and as such not addactive/keen on alcohol
19:06 < blindcoder> how short*
19:06 < daja77> esden: thx for the beer
19:07 < esden> daja77: de nada
19:07 < Mike1> was anyone looking for me?
19:07 < daja77> no *gg*
19:07 < Mike1> fine.
19:07 * Mike1 back to code.
19:08 < esden> Mike1: have fun ...
19:09 < blindcoder> hi Mike1
19:09 * daja77 goin home now
19:10 < esden> daja77: nice trip
19:10 < daja77> ok bye ;)
19:14 * blindcoder has way too many hair ties
19:15 < esden> ok ... /me off for swimming
19:15 < Mike1> AAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
19:15 < blindcoder> have fun esden
19:15 < blindcoder> Mike1: ?
19:15 < Mike1> no panic guys, just loosing some stress :)
19:15 < Mike1> and came by to say hi to blindy
19:16 < Mike1> :)
19:16 < tcr> blindcoder: Hmm, how about washing your hairs more regulary?
19:16 < tfing> hmmm, there is one file i should remove from my repository but the svn diff does not take care of it
19:16 < blindcoder> tcr: I wash my hair 3-4 times a week...
19:17 < blindcoder> Mike1: stress?
19:17 < Mike1> blindcoder: yeah i am quite busy
19:17 * Mike1 coding again btw, will come back in some hours
19:17 < blindcoder> Mike1: i c
19:18 < tfing> rxr: svn diff does not seem to recognize the -P option
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19:33 < rxr> tfing: what should -P do ?
19:34 < tfing> in fact, it's not -P, nevermind
19:35 < tfing> i'm looking for something to indicate that a file should be removed
19:36 < tcr> svn del?
19:40 < tfing> ok, that was it
19:40 < tfing> thx tcr
19:40 < tfing> it's not like with cvs where you need write access to the repository
19:41 < rxr> tfing: hm? you need write acces to finally commit the change - what are you trying to do?
19:42 < tfing> rxr: i got a file in my package that should be removed and with cvs i would have needed write access to specify it
19:42 < tfing> but not with svn
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19:43 < tcr> tfing: No, svn as cvs only prepares the deletion of the file when 'del'eting them
19:43 < tcr> svn has unfortuntely no local repository :/
19:43 < tfing> nope, cvs del denies me
19:44 < tfing> svn del does not
19:44 < tcr> tfing: Ok, i trust you ;) Never ever bothered really with cvs... that's now just another indication how much cvs sucks ;)
19:44 < tfing> hehe
19:46 < rxr> tcr: you try to convince us about RVS stuff without ever using cvs? Have you ever used any RCS?
19:47 < tcr> How trivial must you be to equal 'bothering' and 'using' ?
19:48 < tcr> I understand two different things at least :)
19:48 < tcr> (please recognize that smiley -- I hardly use those, but I think it's here the case to not get into some flame war or something like that)
19:50 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M380P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
19:50 < Mike1> HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Those sco lamers are running linux on their webserver
19:50 < Mike1> https://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.sco.com
19:51 < rolla> == 12:45:43 =[5]=> Building kasc/pingus [0.6.0 2.0.0-beta3].
19:51 < tcr> Why not? They partitally own it (sarcasm), so why shouldn't they be allowed to use their product?
19:52 < Mike1> :))
19:52 < rolla> :)
19:54 * Mike1 is away: having lunch
19:58 < rxr> tcr: nice to read that you unstand two different things - at least ...
19:58 < blindcoder> esden: !!!!
19:58 < blindcoder> DAMMIT WHERE IS HE?
19:58 < tcr> rxr: Korinthenkacker!
19:58 < blindcoder> crash@apollo:~$ uptime
19:58 < blindcoder> 19:57:52 up 364 days, 20:03, 4 users, load average: 0.09, 0.08, 0.08
19:58 < blindcoder> esden: PING PING PING PING
20:01 < rxr> tcr: hm? You want to elaborate on s.th. ?
20:04 < tcr> rxr: Pff, I obviously meant: I considered them as two different things
20:04 < tcr> consider
20:07 < rxr> anywhere - cvs has no real deletes btw ...
20:07 < tcr> whom are you telling that?
20:09 < tcr> btw rxr: Have you (or cliff) ever applied the patches of bash I had forwarded?
20:09 < tcr> to come back to some more practical stuff
20:13 < rxr> tcr: No. They appear to be non-security stuff - and we like to keep patches to packages on a bare minimum. (Not to end with packages like RedHat or debian). You can reask if Cliff consider to apply them ...
20:14 < tcr> rxr: type 'ös' at any bash prompt, press enter, and then the up-arrow-key once
20:14 < tcr> Does it segfault?
20:15 < rxr> no
20:16 < rxr> maybe this is a bug fix for some alpha version? Maybe they do not even apply to our version, have you tried?
20:16 < tcr> No, then jimmy's quick fix is still in it -- that's good
20:17 < tcr> That's the most annyoing bug one of the patches fix
20:17 < _NULL_> re
20:17 < tcr> Just wondered, the last time I asked one to do that (daja I think), it segfaulted -- and afaics he tried it on a rock system
20:19 < tcr> rxr: I really share you opinion to include as less patches as possible. But official patches are fully okay, IMHO (because they definitively _will_ go away). They're at least better than all those dirty building fixes (which must be reviewed everytime a package is updated)
20:24 < daja77> re
20:26 < rxr> hi daja77
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20:30 < _NULL_> hi n00kie
20:31 < rolla> == 13:24:13 =[7]=> Building base/perl5 [5.8.0 2.0.0-beta3].
20:31 < rolla> yeah
20:32 < daja77> rolla: *shakehead* *ggg*
20:32 < n00kie> Hi _NULL_ :)
20:32 < rolla> daja77: yeah my box is slow you have issue with that?
20:32 * Mike1 is back (gone 00:38:29)
20:33 < daja77> rolla: nope
20:33 < daja77> wb Mike1
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20:39 < netrunner> wonderful. now I have not enough diskspace again for building :(
20:40 < _NULL_> *lol*
20:40 < _NULL_> you're incredible
20:41 < _NULL_> ok... what errors did you have till now? killed ram, out of diskspace, cc1... what else?
20:42 < rolla> hmm
20:42 < rolla> I am trying to compile rock on a mandrake box but the config script will not work :(
20:45 < rolla> == 13:41:46 =[7]=> Building base/rfc [0000 2.0.0-beta3].
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20:47 < rolla> anyone alive here?
20:48 < tcr> rolla: You're error reports are so full of informations, I always have to wonder...
20:48 < tcr> your
20:48 < netrunner> _NULL_: well, I had a mtab of about 1000+ lines.
20:48 < n00kie> tcr: ACK ;)
20:48 < netrunner> _NULL_: and no diskspace anymore.
20:48 < rolla> tcr
20:49 < rolla> tcr last time I cut and paste a bunch of error here it auto ignored me
20:49 < tcr> 'it' ?
20:49 < rolla> the channel
20:50 < rolla> I could nolonger talk in it
20:50 < _NULL_> .oO(this man is really incredible... *pointing to netrunner*)
20:50 < n00kie> rolla: mom
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20:50 < n00kie> rolla: https://nopaste.snit.ch:8000
20:50 < tcr> rolla: Well, maybe you had exeggerated a bit, then?
20:50 < n00kie> Now be a good boy ;)
20:50 < rolla> tcr ?
20:51 < tcr> rolla: You might just have pasted too many lines ;)
20:51 < rolla> okay
20:51 < rolla> mom
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20:53 < rolla> crap there is no ncureses on this box
20:53 < rolla> I will have to fix that :)
21:24 < n00kie> Sleep well guys :)
21:28 < rolla> thanks
21:49 < rolla> what version of mkisofs do you need to have to make ISO's for rock
21:53 < rxr> rolla: I do not think you need a particularly new ...
21:53 < rxr> Subversion 0.23.0 released.
21:53 < rxr> ^- those guys are fast ... :-(
21:53 < rxr> Wow: finally: == 05/19/03 21:54:02 =[9]=> Finished building package wine.
21:54 < rolla> rxr: well I download one and it does not have the -graft-tree option
21:54 < rxr> rolla: oh - than you might a newer - or less modified one ...
21:56 < rolla> yes but all I can find is the guy that use to due devolpment for it
21:56 < rolla> and nothing else :(
21:57 < rxr> look into our ROCK Linux .desc file for the package to get homepage and so on for the package ...
21:57 < rolla> who maintains the package?
21:58 < rxr> ifind -name *cdr*
21:58 < rxr> ./package/base/cdrtools
21:58 < rxr> ./package/rene/cdrdao
21:59 < rolla> so it is a part of cdrtools?
22:00 < rolla> thanks
22:00 < rxr> ah yes it is ;-)
22:01 < rxr> on a ROCK system you can find out with "grep mkisofs /var/adm/flist/*" ;-)
22:01 < rolla> thanks
22:01 < rolla> I will note that
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22:03 < tcr> Yeah, the flist data is might, really mighty. I could imagine some target that wants to implement some very easy software-install/-deinstall programm by using flists as an undergrounded 'registry', or kind of
22:04 < rxr> Committed revision 318.
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22:05 < rxr> tcr: we have this since - ah I dont't now - pre ROCK 1.2 - maybe we ever had
22:05 < rxr> mine does this even better ...
22:05 < rxr> cu later
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22:07 < tcr> rxr: Yeah, i know -- but just wanted to state, that if a target wants to write such a (graphical and intuitive) software installer/-deinstaller, they don't need to care about meta-data. That's a very big feature of rocklinux, imho
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22:07 < Be-El> hi ppl
22:10 < tcr> moin bl
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22:24 < bofh> hi all
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22:33 < rxr> tcr: what do you mean with "do not need to care about meta data" ?
22:38 < Mike1> hi daja77
22:38 < daja77> anyone likes to bet if stable comes out before rev 400?
22:39 < Mike1> :)
22:39 < rolla> :)
22:39 < Mike1> hi rolla
22:39 < Mike1> where you looking for me earlier?
22:39 < rolla> yes
22:40 < daja77> Mike1: :p
22:40 < Mike1> daja77: ?
22:40 < daja77> hehe
22:48 < Mike1> how are daja77?
22:49 < daja77> :p
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23:11 * daja77 sings a bit
23:12 * Mike1 covers his ears
23:12 * daja77 sings louder
23:12 * Mike1 search for his amplifier and his guitar...
23:13 * Mike1 if you can't beat him, join him :)
23:13 -!- ciccioni [~ciccioni@host213-122-169-205.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #rocklinux
23:13 < daja77> hehe yeah join me
23:13 -!- ciccioni is now known as Konrat
23:13 < Mike1> Cheers Konrat
23:14 < daja77> hi Konrat
23:14 < Konrat> Ciao Mike ...
23:14 < Konrat> cia deja ...
23:14 < Mike1> :)
23:14 < Konrat> how's going on?
23:14 < Mike1> Konrat: you never replied my mail..
23:15 < daja77> Konrat: can you play drums *gg*
23:15 < Konrat> Mike, I did NOT receive it ... :-(
23:15 < Konrat> we had some problems with external e-mail's ....
23:16 < Konrat> since they installed this brilliant Exchange 2000 ...
23:16 < Mike1> Konrat: arrggg!
23:16 < daja77> Konrat: what
23:16 < Mike1> Konrat: why????
23:16 < Konrat> compatibility with Kmail from KDE 3.1 is terrible.
23:16 * daja77 gives Konrat a drink to forget
23:16 * Mike1 tells Konrat evolution exists :)
23:16 < Konrat> Has been a strategic decision from the central computer service of the university ....
23:17 < Konrat> result: we cannot manage anymore the mailing lists with mailman, and we have to relay all the unix e-mails on another server ...
23:17 < Konrat> pure crap ...
23:17 < Mike1> ouch...
23:17 < daja77> *argh* I don't get, wtf a client has to be compatible to a server, they should be compatible by default (if standards would be used)
23:17 < mnemoc_> microsoft bought sco???
23:18 < daja77> *sigh*
23:18 < Mike1> why couldn't they manage the mailing lists? mailman is quite easy
23:18 < Konrat> ask them ...
23:18 < Konrat> I could not believe ...
23:18 < daja77> mnemoc_: yeah they are fscking each other for destroying free software
23:19 < Mike1> Konrat: do you want me to resend you my mail?
23:19 < Konrat> yes, thank!
23:19 < Mike1> ok one moment
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23:19 < tsa> hi all
23:19 < _NULL_> hi tsa
23:19 < Konrat> btw, I am at home, so I will receive it tomorrow morning at Uni ...
23:19 < daja77> hi tsa
23:19 < Konrat> hi tsa ...
23:20 < Konrat> btw, how is it going with beta2?
23:20 < daja77> beta3 :)
23:20 < Mike1> Konrat: sent.
23:21 < Konrat> ooops ... sorry (I will be able to test it next week probably, after finishing to evaluate my student's exams)
23:21 < Mike1> hola Sebastian
23:21 < Konrat> tahnks Mike ...
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23:21 < Mike1> Konrat: read and /query me if you wanna discuss about it.
23:22 < Konrat> OK ...
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23:29 < rxr> 3cu tomorrow
23:29 < daja77> rxr: gn8, cu
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23:53 < daja77> ok gn8 you alll
23:53 < daja77> all
23:53 < Mike1> gute nacht daja77
23:54 < daja77> bis morgen Miguel
23:55 < Mike1> :)
23:55 < rxr> re again
23:55 < rxr> Committed revision 319.
23:55 < rxr> ^- I'm crazy - I know ...
23:55 < rxr> cu n8
23:55 < freed__> n8
23:56 < daja77> rxr: ACK *gg*
23:58 < tsa> hehe
23:58 * tsa creating new packakes
23:58 < tsa> s/k/g/
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