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--- Log opened Sun May 25 00:00:36 2003 --- Day changed Sun May 25 2003 00:19 < kasc> 11:03PM <tfing> ok 00:19 < kasc> <kasc> on its way 00:19 < kasc> -:- tcr [~tcr@pD9E495F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:19 < kasc> 11:18PM <rolla> rxr you still here? 00:20 < kasc> it should have reached you about an hour ago 00:23 < kasc> gn8 00:25 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F124.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 00:36 < rxr> strange 00:36 < rxr> maybe eaten by the gmx spam filter bug - reported on heise 00:39 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00:52 < n00kie> Sleep well, guys :) 02:24 < rxr> yeah - n8 03:25 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M311P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 03:27 -!- cOdEz|na [~codez@pD9E44CD4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:28 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M324P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:40 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("GNU's not UniX") 04:57 -!- kasc [~kasc@p50909FB9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:00 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090AE9C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:21 < rxr> re 10:23 -!- Pyro [~mike@mail.costarica.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:23 < Pyro> yo. 10:31 -!- Pyro [~mike@mail.costarica.net] has quit ("BitchX: to the rescue!") 10:31 < kasc> moin 10:32 < rxr> moin 10:32 < kasc> did the log finally reach you? 10:35 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p508177B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:00 < daja77> moin 11:03 -!- tcr [~tcr@p50813F0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:03 < rxr> kasc: nope 11:03 < rxr> hi daja77 11:03 < tcr> moin all 11:04 < daja77> hi rxr 11:05 < daja77> rxr: hope that rev 368 build is complete in the evening... 11:10 < tcr> Darn! I need a new casebox for my computer :/ The current one is just too old 11:11 < daja77> tcr: you are into case modding? 11:12 < tcr> Nah, it's based on old 'Netzteilen' with strange electrial sockets for the power/reset bottons 11:12 < daja77> AT? 11:12 < tcr> I think so 11:12 < tcr> I need atx.. 11:13 < tcr> Nevertheless... Where should I look for cheap Bigtower ATX cases? 11:13 < tcr> ebay? 11:13 * daja77 moved atc based computer into at case... 11:14 < tcr> Well, I think I'd need either a special Netzteil or a special Adapter 11:14 < tcr> I think either will be more expensive than a used case from ebay 11:14 < daja77> well or brute force... 11:15 < tcr> :P Not with my zero-like knowledge about this concern ;) 11:15 < daja77> :p 11:17 < tcr> Do you happen to know a suitable adapter? 11:18 < daja77> no 11:18 < tcr> If yes, I could look up what it costs 11:18 < tcr> ok 11:19 < tcr> Uh... 11:19 < daja77> ? 11:20 < tcr> 25euro ohne netzteil + 9euro porto 11:20 < tcr> o_O 11:23 < tcr> https://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3416469932&category=21884 11:24 < tcr> What do you think? 11:24 < daja77> hmmn no browser here... 11:25 < tcr> Huh? 11:25 < daja77> text mode 11:26 < tcr> lynx? 11:27 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M311P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:27 < tcr> doesnt matter much though, I think I'll buy that one anyway 11:29 < daja77> ok 11:31 * daja77 off for shower 12:04 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802B19.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 12:06 < rxr> kasc: oops problem on my site 12:06 < rxr> err side 12:18 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M291P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 12:39 -!- tcr [~tcr@p50813F0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:08 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:19 -!- baka-chibi [blindcoder@p5080101E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:20 -!- baka-chibi is now known as blindcoder 13:29 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:30 < jsaw> g'morning 13:31 -!- tcr [~tcr@p50813F0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:32 < jsaw> hi tcr 13:33 < tcr> hi jsaw 13:33 < jsaw> what are you doin here at this time? 13:39 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p508021D0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:39 < tcr> jsaw: I'm currently migrating from the freemail provider I used for mailinglist to my private adress 13:39 < jsaw> tcr: I see 13:40 < jsaw> BTW, did you notice mine-0.13 failing to compile? 13:42 < tcr> No.. you should direct that to rxr. 13:43 < jsaw> I was just asking if there are others seeing this. Of course, I'll bother (hehe) rxr about this... 13:43 < tcr> Hmm, anyone an idea what an ATX bigtower case normally costs? 13:44 < tcr> I know when I bought mine the last time (~2-3years ago) it cost about 120DM 13:44 < jsaw> www.alternate.de 13:44 < tcr> Well they're overpriced ;) 13:45 < jsaw> not sure, but you may get one aroung EUR 60-80. 13:45 < jsaw> arlt? km-electronic? 13:45 < tcr> Well... my mom's working at SWR and they may have some as 'restposten'... 13:46 < tcr> Hmm, how much Watt should a netzteil have for an xp1,7ghz? 300? 13:47 < jsaw> better use a new one. or take the time to clean the case thoroughly! 13:47 < jsaw> 300-400W, depending on your needs (how many extra stuff's in there). 13:47 < tcr> They're damn expensive! 13:48 < tcr> no case <80euro (and that _without_ a netzteil, which is called power pack in english afaik) 13:48 < jsaw> lemma see... 13:48 < tcr> I just checked alternate 13:49 < jsaw> yp : ATX, Bigtower 13:49 < jsaw> Netzteil : 300W 13:49 < jsaw> Anschlüsse : Powerswitch, Speaker, Reset, HDD/POWER-LED 13:49 < jsaw> Athlon : geeignet 13:49 < jsaw> Pentium 4 : nicht geeignet 13:49 < jsaw> 63.99EUR (ARLT) 13:50 < jsaw> Typ : ATX, Bigtower 13:50 < jsaw> Netzteil : 400W 13:50 < jsaw> Anschlüsse : Powerswitch, Speaker, Reset, HDD/POWER-LED 13:50 < tcr> Hmm, that a p4 isn't suitable scares me a bit now though 13:50 < jsaw> EUR 69.00 (ARLT) 13:50 < tcr> Gimme the url please 13:50 < jsaw> www.arlt.com, click on shop 13:50 < tcr> `www.arlt.com couldn't be found' 13:51 < tcr> hm strange, now it works 13:52 < jsaw> ??? 13:52 < tcr> nevermind ;) 13:53 < rxr> jsaw: yes - the latest mine version fails due to libtar has a cross compile bug 13:53 < rxr> cliff will fix this soon - for now simply contunue the build - it builds in stage 5 ... 13:54 < tcr> jsaw: do you happen to know how much Porto will be charged? 13:54 < jsaw> rxr: well, yes, but in stage 9 it fails to generate the gem files :-( 13:55 < rxr> jsaw: yes this is a good point ... 13:56 < jsaw> rxr: I'll have a more general approach to the cross compiling problem I'll post later on on the ml 13:56 < jsaw> rxr: gotta test it a bit more... 13:57 < jsaw> tcr: no idea 14:03 < rxr> rev 384 - stoned mac_hid 14:11 < blindcoder> netzteil == Power Supply Unit == PSU 14:11 < blindcoder> moin 14:12 < jsaw> blindcoder: moin moin 14:12 < tcr> blindcoder: ok, power pack actually means energieversorger ;) 14:13 < blindcoder> jsaw: yes, mine is failing when cross-compiling, although that's a problem of configure, not mine itself 14:14 < jsaw> blindcoder: I now. fscking configure scripts! 14:14 < blindcoder> okay, I'm off to fitness now 14:15 < blindcoder> as usual my build can be observed in #rocklinux-status 14:21 < daja77> re 14:21 < jsaw> wb daja77 14:22 < daja77> thx jsaw 14:29 < jsaw> How can I find out, if I do a real cross compilation or just a pseudo cross compilation? 14:37 < rxr> jsaw: yes - this GNU auto* dung needs to be rm -rf'ed from the World ... 14:40 < daja77> ack 14:40 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@gtso-d9b8c05c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:47 < jsaw> i was interrupted: the pseudo cross compilation detection, I mean, how can I do that in the build scripts? Do I have to compare the processor type in $arch_build and $arch_target, or is there a simpler method? 14:50 < rxr> jsaw: what are you trying to archive ? 14:51 < jsaw> I check a IMO pretty simple solution to the cross compilation problem, but it can only be done safely, if we're on the same architecture (say e.g. x86). So, 14:52 < jsaw> in other words, it may lead to problems, if we're doing - what I would call - a REAL cross build. 14:54 < rxr> such hacks will not get into the source! The package are needed in cross compiles and are cross compile able. Only this damn new checks prevent them to compile ... 14:56 < jsaw> These new checks only depend on ONE line: cross_compile=yes. If this line is s/yes/pseudo/ or s/yes/maybe/, all is fine. 14:57 < jsaw> This cross compile check does not only have the problem of configure failing. 14:57 < jsaw> It is more problematic: 14:57 < jsaw> Many packages include sources of functions _definitely_ available in libc. 14:58 < jsaw> However, due to the cross compilation check, the supplied source is compiled instead of the available. 14:58 < jsaw> -> increasing the binary size... 14:59 < kasc> rxr: now mine keeps failing. has that been fixed since the day before yesterday? 14:59 < jsaw> hi kasc 15:00 < jsaw> kasc: cross compilation check in libtar-1.2.11 is the problem... 15:03 < kasc> is there already a solution avaliable or do i have to dig into the problem myself? ;) 15:03 < rxr> kasc: no mine has not been fixed. 15:04 < rxr> it is cliffords 3rd party package and he said he will fix it in the next free minute ... 15:10 < kasc> so better wait for a fix? 15:13 < tcr> jsaw: Yes, that's a very common problem. I sent a fix to sed for that a while ago 15:59 -!- tcr [~tcr@p50813F0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Mess with the best, die like the rest!") 16:05 < blindcoder> back 16:07 < blindcoder> gah. I knew I forgot something in mutt >_< 16:13 < jsaw> cu l8r 17:25 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9E494D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:43 -!- MegaNothing [~akiru@c16865.dandn1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #rocklinux 17:43 < MegaNothing> ripclaw around at all? 17:46 < tcr> No.. been a long time I saw him the last time here 17:51 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 18:10 < MegaNothing> been about 4 years since i seen him :) 18:14 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@gtso-d9b8c05c.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit ("Ruhe, fuer immer.") 18:15 < tcr> that can be called 'long' 18:23 < MegaNothing> yes.. it can.. :) 18:28 < MegaNothing> was reading some old archives.. from around may 1999.. and thought id see if he is still around.. 18:33 -!- cOdEz [~codez@p5087F7A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:35 -!- cOdEz [~codez@p5087F7A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 18:36 -!- cOdEz [~codez@p5087F7A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:43 < esden> hi all 18:45 -!- MegaNothing [~akiru@c16865.dandn1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ("hello!") 18:45 < cOdEz> hi esden 18:45 < daja77> hi esden 18:48 < rxr> hi esden 18:49 < rxr> do you have some second for a dietlibc problem ? 18:59 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M291P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Damn, wrong button.") 19:00 < tcr> apropos, esden.. have you yet contacted that dietlinux guy? 19:01 -!- cOdEz [~codez@p5087F7A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 19:01 -!- cOdEz [~codez@p5087F7A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:11 < rxr> Committed revision 388. 19:11 < daja77> O_o 19:11 < rxr> ^- maybe fixes the mine issue - can s.o. test ?? 19:12 < daja77> well is mine completely broken in rev < 368 19:22 < blindcoder> rxr: I'll try 19:23 < blindcoder> rxr: huh? there's a lot of chonges betweenn 368 and 388 >_< 19:26 < blindcoder> okay, most of it is linux24benh 19:26 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:26 -!- cOdEz [~codez@p5087F7A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 19:27 -!- cOdEz [~codez@p5087F7A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:29 < blindcoder> rxr: mine still fails in stage 1 19:29 < blindcoder> rxr: as does util-linux 19:36 -!- mnemoc [~mnemoc@200.75.27.95] has joined #rocklinux 19:42 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M291P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 20:09 -!- jahor [~jahor@jahor.sh.cvut.cz] has quit ("leaving") 20:10 -!- baka-chibi [blindcoder@pD9E4F642.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:10 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p5080101E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: baka-chibi!blindcoder@pD9E4F642.dip.t-dialin.net))) 20:10 -!- baka-chibi is now known as blindcoder 20:18 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M291P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:36 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M293P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 20:54 -!- cOdEz [~codez@p5087F7A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 21:28 < rxr> blindcoder: thaks - I'm just merging the rest from Cliff's CVS 21:28 < rxr> it should work in some seconds. ... 21:29 < mnemoc> re 21:29 < mnemoc> rxr: can you improve cvs:// download to support tags? 21:30 < mnemoc> can i? 21:36 < rxr> hi mnemoc 21:36 < rxr> I also thought about such a feature ... 21:36 < rxr> maybe we should add the possiblity do specify any cvs options 21:37 < rxr> and remove the ! hack ... 21:37 < mnemoc> ! hack can be powed too 21:38 < mnemoc> to keep it 'url' like 21:39 < rxr> committing merge with cliff 21:40 < rxr> Committed revision 389. 21:41 < mnemoc> rxr: why my cleanup was rejected? or was it forgoten? 21:44 < rxr> mnemoc: which cleanup ? 21:45 < mnemoc> to my repos. "big/fat cleanup to mnemoc's" ... and a config.in to openldap 21:45 < mnemoc> to build just the libs 21:45 < rxr> it is not applied? 21:46 < mnemoc> nope 21:46 < mnemoc> i can resend it 21:48 < rxr> mnemoc: nope - it is now applied 21:48 < rxr> (commit running) 21:48 < mnemoc> thanks :D 22:11 < daja77> re 22:11 < mnemoc> wb daja77 22:12 < daja77> thx mnemoc 22:13 < esden> huhu all 22:13 < daja77> huhu esden 22:13 < mnemoc> huhu esden 22:15 * -> esden must go ... be back soon 22:15 < daja77> cu esden 22:16 < mnemoc> :| 22:16 * daja77 praying for getting a usable iso out of his build 22:22 * tcr hopes to arrange getting a new ATX case soon, to actually start a build %) 22:27 < netrunner> re 22:34 < daja77> re netrunner 22:41 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9E494D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Mess with the best, die like the rest!") 22:44 < daja77> *lol* just found my copy of sco unixware 7... 23:08 < daja77> core dump while building mysqlcc, wtf 23:08 < daja77> and nobody here, *aaargh* 23:09 < rxr> re 23:09 < rxr> hi daja77 23:09 < daja77> re rxr *sigh* 23:10 < rxr> just phoned with cliff (77min) 23:10 < daja77> cool 23:10 < daja77> well meanwhile I core dumped... 23:11 < daja77> .oO this seems to be really fscked up 23:12 < rxr> you core dumped??? 23:12 < rxr> Warning: I just commit a patch for all .cache files ... 23:13 < daja77> my box core dumped, /me was down today as well, but anyway... 23:14 < rxr> what core dumped? 23:14 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 23:16 < daja77> scripts/Build-Target at mysqlcc package 23:16 < A-Tui> hi daja77 23:16 < daja77> hi A-Tui 23:16 < rxr> the script build target, or s.th. during building the packages (e.g. gcc) 23:16 < daja77> yes 23:18 < rxr> daja77: err? I ask a or b - and you answer "yes" 23:18 < rxr> ?? 23:19 < daja77> rxr: huh you asked what core dumped and I told you 23:19 < daja77> ah sorry I am a bit tired 23:19 < rxr> so Build-Target core-dumped?> 23:19 < daja77> mom 23:20 < daja77> see query 23:25 < daja77> rxr: ? 23:26 * A-Tui is away: La homo kio pensas estas lumo kaj forto 23:27 < daja77> whatever 23:28 < rxr> ah yes 23:28 < rxr> was busy 23:28 < daja77> :) 23:37 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p508177B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 23:39 < tfing> yeah, made packages for canna/kinput2 :) 23:46 < rxr> n8 all 23:47 < tfing> n8 rxr 23:47 < daja77> n8 rxr 23:53 * A-Tui is back (gone 00:27:05) 23:54 < daja77> wb A-Tui 23:54 < A-Tui> re daja77 23:54 < A-Tui> i have eaten a good pizza :) 23:54 < daja77> A-Tui: congrats 23:54 < A-Tui> tnx :) 23:55 < A-Tui> Mike1: are you alive? 23:56 < daja77> A-Tui: not on sundays *gg* 23:56 < A-Tui> hehe, ok then :) --- Log closed Mon May 26 00:00:04 2003