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--- Log opened Tue Jun 03 00:00:01 2003 --- Day changed Tue Jun 03 2003 00:00 < mnemoc> i didnt know about 8085 00:00 < rxr> Mike1: the box only has a few kB of memory ! 00:01 < Mike1> rxr: that is enough :) 00:02 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9522780.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 00:02 < Mike1> rxr: also some kb of hd will be all i need.. 00:02 < tsa> patch sent. 00:02 < Mike1> even though i could use other medias :) 00:02 < rxr> cu all 00:02 < rxr> n8 00:03 < Mike1> cu rxr 00:03 < tsa> cu rxr 00:03 < mnemoc> gn8 rxr 00:04 < Mike1> tsa: ever used Honeypots? 00:04 < tsa> Mike1: not so far.. 00:04 < esden> woot ... animatrix on pro7 it rulez 00:04 < tsa> hiya esden 00:04 < Mike1> GBY esden 00:04 * -> esden is asking himself if there will be more 00:05 < Mike1> tsa: https://www.honeypots.net/ 00:05 < tsa> thx 00:05 < Mike1> tsa: its quite nice :) 00:05 < needle> cu all 00:05 -!- needle [~needle@pD9E58EF5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 00:05 < esden> that means that the dvd is in the shops tomorrow ... at least I heard that it will be the day after it comes on pro7 00:07 < Mike1> :) 00:07 < Mike1> ok i'm off 00:07 < Mike1> cu tomorrow (i hope) 00:07 < esden> n8 Mike1 00:07 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.66.18] has quit ("leaving") 00:07 < tsa> cu mike 00:10 < uninvit3d> n8 every1 00:11 < esden> ahh the second renesaince I 00:13 -!- uninvit3d [~uninvited@ppp-62-245-208-89.mnet-online.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 00:16 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M304P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 00:18 -!- andrew__ [hidden-use@12-238-26-117.client.attbi.com] has joined #rocklinux 01:13 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B1ADA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exciting") 01:15 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082D5DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("*plopp*") 01:33 < daja77> .oO I am lost again :(( 01:34 < daja77> the same stupid terminal error again *gnarf* 01:42 < esden> ok ... animatrix finished ... the dietlibc/bootdisk problem has to wait till tomorrow 01:43 < esden> ok ... good night everyone 01:44 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M304P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 01:47 < daja77> haha system says life sucks, yeah 01:48 < daja77> anybody alive? 01:48 < mnemoc> me 01:48 < daja77> great 01:49 < daja77> it seems to be impossible to install rock on a pentium 133 system 01:50 < daja77> 2nd_stage is too big and 2nd_stage_small is borken 01:51 < mnemoc> doh 01:52 < daja77> now the machine is blinking friendly and saying: life sucks! 01:52 < daja77> smart machine 01:53 -!- jose_ [~jose@196.40.45.146] has quit ("shopping day") 01:54 < n00kie> daja77: o.O 01:54 < n00kie> I wanna install rock on a 120mhz machine 01:54 < n00kie> well 01:54 < n00kie> Hope it'll work 01:55 < daja77> kernel panic: Attempted to kill init! 01:55 < daja77> n00kie: how much ram do you have? 01:55 < n00kie> well 01:55 < n00kie> it runs with 40mb ram 01:55 < daja77> ha ha 01:55 < n00kie> If I run a swap space of about 512megs 01:55 < n00kie> it should work 01:56 < daja77> this machine has 60mb and it wasn't sufficient 01:56 < esden> daja77: I am working on the bootdisk problems at the moment 01:56 < esden> because I have seen that the small stage2 is broken 01:56 < n00kie> daja77: Did you activated swap space on the startup ? 01:57 < daja77> esden: great, don't have time for rebuild, so I guess, I'll repair that half borken install manually 01:57 < esden> argl 01:58 < daja77> I want to ship that box on wednesday 01:58 < esden> daja77: yes do it ... it will take time till I get the problem tracked and killed 01:58 * -> esden sending out sentinels 01:58 < daja77> esden: you'll get a beer for that on Linuxtag from me 01:58 < n00kie> blindcoder: You crashed into another car with your car? 01:59 < daja77> esden: another issue vmlinuz is too big for boot floppies 02:01 < esden> argl ... I have to go to bed >_< 02:01 * -> esden killing time 02:02 < n00kie> hehe 02:02 < n00kie> sleep well esden :) 02:07 < esden> woow ... that are 3 cd's now 02:07 < esden> that is a _lot_ 02:07 < esden> rock is growing and growing instantly 02:08 < esden> WARNING: Disk1 is not bootable - no boot options defined. 02:08 < esden> argl argl argl 02:11 < esden> ok ... it was my own stupidity 02:11 -!- jose_ [~jose@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux 02:11 < jose_> hey, does anybody have the ps filter for a printer ? 02:12 < jose_> I just can not find any ! 02:12 < esden> how much does cost the simplest and cheepest cdrom drive? 02:12 < esden> jose_: /me does not have a printer 02:12 < tfing> 30¤ ? maybe less 02:12 < esden> hmm ... that sounds ok 02:12 * jose_ is trying to print in a windows print server! 02:12 < daja77> esden: yeah rock linux is fat and ugly like all the distros :( 02:15 < esden> daja77: that is why we have the small target ... you are not forced to build everything ;-) 02:15 < daja77> esden: I do not talk about build I talk about the compiled distro 02:16 < esden> you talk about the generic and desktop targets 02:16 < n00kie> hmm 02:16 < n00kie> i think we shouldn't "create" a big target 02:16 < n00kie> but many small usefull targets 02:19 < esden> but who will do it ... not me ... 02:19 < daja77> yeah I need desktop target, but I need to install to older machines as well, they don't have 1G RAM 02:20 < n00kie> esden: hmm 02:20 < n00kie> groups is huge 02:20 < esden> daja77: that is why I have a pentium 100 with 8mb ram standing here to test installation on such machine and get it running 02:21 < esden> that is forcing me to make it possible to install on such box 02:22 < daja77> hmm ok installing of ncurses package fails 02:22 < esden> n00kie: the group is not as huge as one may expect ... and as it seems there is noone who is interested in such targets ... otherwise they would be there ... and another thing: we had till now other things to do, like getting the framework working and flexible 02:22 < daja77> terminated 02:22 < daja77> esden: how can I extract the binary tarball from a gem? 02:23 < esden> daja77: mom 02:24 < esden> mine -k pkg_tarbz2 <package>.gem 02:24 < daja77> ah thx 02:25 < esden> that is also a thing for the FAQ 02:25 < esden> ok ... but now I really go to bed 02:25 < esden> good night 02:25 < n00kie> sleep well esden :) 02:26 -!- jose_ [~jose@196.40.45.146] has quit ("BitchX: its not your ordinary stick of gum") 02:27 < daja77> gn8 esden , btw this made a nice sound and killed the terminal 02:29 < esden> mine -k pkg_tarbz2 <package>.gem > package.tar.bz2 02:29 < esden> sorry 02:30 < daja77> I found it, gn8 02:46 < mnemoc> n8 daja77 02:47 < daja77> you are goin to bed? 02:49 < mnemoc> me? no.... you 02:49 < daja77> nah I said gn8 to esden 02:50 * daja77 trying to fix that damn box 02:50 < n00kie> hola mnemoc :-) 02:51 < mnemoc> hallo n00kie :-) 03:15 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: andrew__, daja77, netrunner, praenti, ringo78, fronti, Parabull, blindcoder, n00kie, kasc, (+5 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 03:16 -!- Netsplit over, joins: praenti, n00kie, blindcoder, snyke, daja77, andrew__, mnemoc, kasc, ringo78, aszlig (+5 more) 04:42 < mnemoc> gn8 05:35 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M304P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:36 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M310P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 06:06 -!- kittehs [~kittehs@65.194.252.65] has joined #rocklinux 06:07 -!- kittehs [~kittehs@65.194.252.65] has left #rocklinux () 07:25 < blindcoder> n00kie: yes 07:34 -!- andrew__ [hidden-use@12-238-26-117.client.attbi.com] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09:37 -!- Aard [~bwachter@dsl-213-023-226-191.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:37 < Aard> hi 09:40 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 09:40 < jsaw> re moin moin 09:44 < Aard> jsaw: moin 09:45 < jsaw> moin Aard 09:47 < Aard> esden: asleep? ;) 09:55 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-159-044.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:56 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-159-044.arcor-ip.net] has left #rocklinux () 11:10 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:10 < owl> moin 11:14 < n00kie> morning owl :) 11:15 < owl> hi n00kie 11:15 < n00kie> How are you? 11:15 < owl> n00kie: #anarchy 11:15 < n00kie> yep 11:15 < owl> :p 11:25 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M310P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Damn, wrong button.") 11:25 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has left #rocklinux ("(you can find me on #anarchy if you want...)") 11:28 < esden> good morning 11:28 < esden> Aard: ? 11:30 < Aard> esden: hi 11:30 < esden> hi 11:30 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M310P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 11:30 < Aard> found an irc-log from may 22 last night -- I'm the dietlinux-guy. 11:31 < esden> heey cool!! 11:31 < esden> I wanted to write an email to you but I had no time for that till now 11:32 < esden> I have tested your bootdisk ... and I have to say it is pretty good work 11:32 < Aard> btw, I'm currently chatting using an irssi linked static against dietlibc, running on dietlinux :) 11:33 < esden> nice ;-) 11:33 < Aard> thanks. do you mean cd-rom or floppy? floppy is currently really outdated 11:33 < esden> I am sadly not so far to use a diet system :-( 11:34 < esden> I still have some problems with the build that have to be solved 11:34 < esden> floppy 11:34 < esden> I can not remember why but I was not able to get/use the cdrom 11:35 < Aard> I'm using it as a router (pppoe), and dns/dhcp for my internal network. since yesterday I have screen and irssi there and can use it for useful stuff, too ;) 11:35 < blindcoder> hi all 11:35 < esden> do you have a running gcc under dietlibc? 11:35 < esden> hi blindcoder 11:36 < Aard> was it possible to you to assemble the ISO? if not -- since yesterday there is a mirror at freenet.de where you can get ready-to-use ISOs 11:37 < Aard> esden: yes, since about one week I've been building all software without autoconf on a DietLinux-system, since sunday I have a working perl and can therefore build autoconf-software, too 11:37 < Aard> glib/irssi was the first big softwarepackage using autoconf I compiled only using DietLinux 11:37 < esden> what have you done to get gcc bootstrapped on dietlinux? 11:38 < esden> have you thanged the STARTFILE_ and ENDFILE_SPECS? 11:41 < esden> gettng perl running is the next step after the gcc ... 11:43 < Aard> you have to disable build of g++ -- easiest way to do so ist to remove the dirs libstdc++-v3 and gcc/cp (?) 11:44 < Aard> I removed java, too, but it might build with java-support 11:46 < Aard> for perl you cannot use the buggy dietlibc-libm -- someone told me to use the fdlibm from sun, currently only available from mizilla CVS. 11:47 < esden> aha ... ok 11:48 < esden> but I do not think that it will help ... :-/ 11:48 < Aard> problem about g++ ist that libstdc++ heavily depends on glibc -- most likely you will never be able to use c++ with dietlibc without writen a nice small libstdc++ 11:49 < Aard> (there have been plans to do this, but until now nobody had the time to do so) 11:49 < esden> because what is failing currently is the gcx (or how it is called) gcc internal mini compiler that is used to build the actual compiler 11:50 < esden> I got gcc compiled in stage 1 (outside the chroot) and it is working very well 11:50 < esden> and g++ is there o_O 11:51 < esden> it is some time ago as I fixed gcc 11:51 < esden> I only have problems compiling gcc inside the chroot 11:54 < Aard> do you have a running automake? 11:54 < esden> not yet 11:54 < Aard> how do you configure it? 11:54 < esden> I do not need automake to configure gcc ... 11:55 < esden> I only need automake autoconf when I change something in configure.am or in Makefile.am 11:55 < esden> or so 11:55 < esden> otherwise automake is not needed 11:56 < Aard> argh, ok, your right. its early in the morning.. 11:56 < esden> *gg* 11:56 * -> esden brb 11:56 < Aard> can you run ./configure inside the chroot successful? 12:06 < daja77> moin 12:09 < esden> re 12:09 < netrunner> hi esden 12:09 < esden> Aard: yes 12:09 < daja77> hi esden 12:09 < esden> hi daja77, netrunner 12:10 < Aard> what options do you use? 12:10 < esden> urgh ... that is difficult the options are created during the build ... I hove to check that 12:13 < esden> ahh ok ... in stage 1 only c is build no other stuff like c++ 12:16 * -> esden running gcc3 build and will see what the options are 12:18 < esden> Aard: configure options: --prefix=/usr --bindir=$bindir --sbindir=$sbindir --libdir=$libdir --datadir=$datadir --infodir=$infodir --mandir=$mandir --sysconfdir=$sysconfdir --localstatedir=$localstatedir --disable-debug --disable-nls $extraconfopt --build=$arch_build --host=$arch_target --disable-multilib --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-shared=no --with-gnu-as --enable-version-specific-runtime-libs --with-gnu-ld --enable-threads=posix 12:20 < Aard> hm. I uses nearly the same, but no threads and additional --disable-c-mbchar 12:21 < esden> ok now I have the complete option list: --prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/bin --sbindir=/usr/sbin --libdir=/usr/lib --datadir=/usr/share --infodir=/usr/info --mandir=/usr/man --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --disable-debug --disable-nls --without-libpam --without-pam --disable-libpam --disable-pam --build=i386-pc-linux-gnulibc1 --host=i386-pc-linux-gnulibc1 --disable-multilib --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-shared=no --with-gnu-as --enable-version-specific-runtime-libs --with-gnu-ld --enable-threads=posix 12:24 < esden> Aard: I send you the error I get in the query 12:25 < esden> the xgcc is the internal minicompiler and it is not able to find the headers of dietlibc. 12:25 < daja77> mini compiler? 12:26 < esden> yes it is used to get the real compiler built 12:27 < daja77> I know but I thought it is just a prebuild gcc not an extra minicompiler 12:29 < esden> or so ... 12:31 < daja77> ok I'll continue fighting GRUB 12:34 < jsaw> hi daja77, hehe CRUB 12:36 < daja77> hi jsaw , yeah but on an old siemens this time 12:36 < daja77> I did the same things I did to the laptop 12:36 < daja77> but instead of booting it only says GRUB and hangs 12:41 < jsaw> hmmm... 12:43 < daja77> the best thing is I only found that error description in connection with scsi controllers 12:46 < daja77> wtf I get the suse db articles only from google cache 13:18 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M310P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:19 < Aard> esden: btw, will you be at linuxtag or chaoscamp this year? 13:31 < esden> I won't be able to come to linuxtag because of exams 13:31 < esden> but I will be at least the first two days on chaos camp 13:32 < Aard> I'll stay at ennos firelounge during the camp -- https://lounge.verbrennung.org/ 13:36 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M284P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 13:39 < daja77> hah I found a way to boot that installation 13:43 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802AE4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:55 -!- andrew [hidden-use@12-238-26-117.client.attbi.com] has joined #rocklinux 14:04 < rxr> re 14:04 < daja77> re rxr 14:04 * daja77 banging head against a wall 14:05 < rxr> daja77: why? 14:06 < daja77> cos grub install on that siemens box gives me a headache 14:06 < rxr> daja77: what is the problem? 14:07 < daja77> long or short version? 14:07 < rxr> both :-) 14:08 < daja77> ok well the box has less than 64mb ram which cos trouble during rock install (killed mine tasks) 14:09 < daja77> so e.g. ncurses didn't get installed which broke the install 14:09 < daja77> anyway I chrooted into that mess and somehow installed ncurses to perform grub setup 14:10 < daja77> then I got a GRUB message + a system hang 14:10 < rxr> daja77: the progs failed with an active swap space ? 14:10 < daja77> yes 14:10 < daja77> then I booted that system with a grub floppy which worked quite well 14:11 < daja77> I redid grub install from stone, now I get a GRUB Read Error 14:11 < daja77> *hmpf* 14:12 < daja77> maybe I should do a mine -i *gem before I continue, there seem to be more broken (or uninstalled) packages 14:17 -!- andrew [hidden-use@12-238-26-117.client.attbi.com] has quit ("Client exiting") 14:26 < daja77> *gg* I scared rxr away 14:31 -!- Freak [freak@p508B3792.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:34 < rxr> daja77: nope 14:34 < daja77> :)) 14:34 < rxr> I'm just too busy ... 14:34 < rxr> I hack xemacs for the iBook, and checked the inbox, and ... 14:35 < daja77> do you have an idea? 14:35 < rxr> this shit fuck argh 14:35 < daja77> huh? 14:35 < rxr> text.h:2156: Internal compiler error in verify_wide_reg, at flow.c:560 14:35 < rxr> Please submit a full bug report, 14:35 < daja77> gcc-3.3 14:35 < rxr> maybe we should start a ROCK-cc ... 14:35 < rxr> daja77: nope just gcc-3.2.3 on iBook ... 14:35 < daja77> yeah great, hacking a new compiler 14:36 < rxr> daja77: nope designing and implenting - not hacking 14:36 < daja77> haha 14:36 < rxr> that might make the important difference :-) 14:36 < rxr> s/might/should/ :-) 14:36 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p508026E0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:37 < daja77> yeah sure, you mean this will be the hurd equivalent for compilers *rofl* 14:37 < daja77> release in 2130 14:38 * daja77 off, need a break from this bullshit 14:39 < rxr> daja77: nope 14:39 < rxr> this will work out quicker ... 14:39 < rxr> take a look to other compilers ... 14:40 < daja77> none of them works good with linux software 14:41 * daja77 should know better of compilers taking into account that this is part of his specialization 14:42 < daja77> anyway off now, cu and maybe I'll get it running ... 14:42 < rxr> hm 14:42 < rxr> is this iBook getting too hot ?!? 14:42 < Aard> rxr: sure it will. `will be released next year'. 14:43 < Aard> is better than `2130', you'll never have to change that 14:43 < daja77> hehe ic 14:44 < rxr> oO 14:44 < rxr> this ICEs are not reproduceable 14:44 < rolla> re 14:44 < rxr> I fear this iBook is getting to hot ... 14:46 < Aard> rxr: https://www.stud.ntnu.no/~arnesen/peltierbeer/ -- either put the iBook into the mag or adjust the construction to the different shape ;) 15:28 -!- zer0_o [~sascha@217.14.64.20] has joined #rocklinux 15:47 -!- mnemoc [~mnemoc@200.75.27.11] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:48 -!- mnemoc [~mnemoc@200.75.27.11] has joined #rocklinux 15:59 < mnemoc> re 16:00 < rolla> re mnemoc 16:00 < mnemoc> hi rolla 16:04 < daja77> hi mnemoc 16:05 < mnemoc> daja77: hi... when will we have rtai? ;-) 16:06 < daja77> when I finished this fscking pentium box and have time to go to work 16:06 < daja77> I guess end of the week 16:07 < daja77> but I'll downgrade to 2.4.20 everything else is too risky for my project 16:08 < daja77> mnemoc: you need it? 16:08 < mnemoc> no :) 16:08 < daja77> ok 16:08 < rolla> grrr 16:08 < daja77> rolla: ? 16:09 < mnemoc> daja77: i saw the conflicts in the rtai's patch, and they were very simple to adjust to -rc6 16:10 < rxr> hi mnemoc 16:10 < mnemoc> hi rxr 16:11 < rxr> I should script XEmacs / Mew to play an "You have a patch" audio wave :-) 16:11 < mnemoc> lol 16:13 < daja77> mnemoc: I don't care, how should I guess if this will be work at runtime, and I can't cope with that rc releasing speed 16:13 < mnemoc> thanks true 16:14 < mnemoc> thats true (fix) 16:14 < daja77> and paolo told me he'll merge rtai stuff in it when 2.4.21 is out 16:14 < daja77> + there are two patches 16:15 < daja77> anyway off to university now 16:16 < mnemoc> good luck 16:16 < daja77> :) 16:31 -!- Freak [freak@p508B3792.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exciting") 16:35 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux 16:35 < LocalHero> Hi all 16:36 < mnemoc> wb LocalHero 16:47 < LocalHero> Has anybody a good mirror for 2.0 src files? 16:50 < mnemoc> are mirrors too outdated? 16:51 < rolla> LocalHero: nope 16:51 < LocalHero> Ahh, sorry, First i didnt have curl installed and then it detected that no mirrors where awaible 16:51 < LocalHero> I fixed that with deleting the src/Downlaod-Mirror file 16:51 < LocalHero> Finaly i got my 2.0 build environment up :) 16:51 < mnemoc> congrats! ;) 16:52 < LocalHero> Now we might finaly have some isos ready on the site. Its a shame that the last is 1.6.0-pre3 and that we sould say that its absolete 16:58 < LocalHero> And soon i will be able to make the swedish keyboard patch :) 16:58 < mnemoc> o_O 17:07 < mnemoc> https://thejab.com/newsite/balm.html 17:09 -!- zer0_o [~sascha@217.14.64.20] has quit ("bye all") 17:11 -!- Mike2 [~mike@196.40.66.18] has joined #rocklinux 17:11 -!- Mike2 is now known as Mike1 17:11 < Mike1> moin 17:13 -!- aszlig_ [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has joined #rocklinux 17:15 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:15 < mnemoc> moin Mike1 17:15 < Mike1> Hola Ale :) 17:22 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50817CDA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:22 < rolla> re Mike1 17:22 < Mike1> hi Joel 17:34 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.66.18] has quit ("leaving") 17:35 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 17:49 < rxr> yeah - finally this damn xemacs thing linked on ppc 17:49 < rxr> this was *sooo* easy - just removed a damn old rotten stupid link.script hack only present on ppc ... 17:50 < LocalHero> rxr, great job :) 17:51 < rxr> yes ;-) cool. And since there is not a single google entry about this fluff I might be the first one that linked xemacs on ppc with glibc-2.3 and gcc-3.x ... 17:51 < rxr> hi LocalHero 17:53 < LocalHero> rxr, ahh, oki, how is the powerpc thing looking alltogether? Can you get a working iso? 17:55 -!- CyBuX [~usuario@conm200-13-246-217.epm.net.co] has joined #rocklinux 17:55 -!- jhidalgo [~jose@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux 17:56 < rxr> I tell people "at the end of the week" since three wekks or so now ... 17:56 -!- jhidalgo is now known as jose 17:56 < rxr> but during the next seven days (this time for sure) I'll release a installable iso 17:57 < LocalHero> rxr, great, dont forget to send it to the iso site :) 17:57 < rxr> I hope to fix a dietlibc'ed gawk until then - otherwise the install-disk and the installer has some oddities .. 17:57 < rxr> LocalHero: sure I will 17:57 < rxr> it will be in the usual dRock tree which is automagically synced 17:58 < rxr> I'll also put either a 30GB disk - or hopefully a 40GB one if it arrive in time - into the server. So I should have the space for the next ISO releases for the next 6-12 months ... :-) 17:58 < rxr> Dumping under the name xemacs 17:58 < rxr> Testing for Lisp shadows ... 17:59 < LocalHero> oki := 17:59 < LocalHero> :) 17:59 < rxr> ^- yeah finally !! 17:59 < rxr> LocalHero: how much space space on the server? 18:00 < rxr> from the stuff I have lying around I could donate a 30GB "serviceable reused part" IBM disk just came from repair a few days ago ... 18:00 < LocalHero> Wow, rocklinux 2 has a lot of new packages. I liked when it was plain and simple. I wounder if it would be an idee to do a lite installation of what you actually would need to run a webserver for example 18:01 -!- CyBuX [~usuario@conm200-13-246-217.epm.net.co] has left #rocklinux () 18:01 -!- Freak [freak@p508B2F28.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:01 < LocalHero> rxr, well at the moment it is 40+40 but i have some problem alocating it the right way :(.. Im planing on doing a complet redisign of the ftp dirs and an upload "thing" so people could add their isos to the site more easy 18:01 < LocalHero> Right now 40 is used for the iso site. 18:02 < LocalHero> Then im also planing on upgrading the cpu (133mhz old p5 right now) this summer. I have 2 more days left in school before summer 18:02 < LocalHero> Ahh, more diskspace would be nice :) 18:05 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M284P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 18:05 < LocalHero> got to go for a while, cya 18:05 < rxr> re 18:06 < rxr> cu 18:10 < rxr> weee - really working :-) 18:17 -!- Freak [freak@p508B2F28.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exciting") 18:18 -!- mnemoc [~mnemoc@200.75.27.11] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:39 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:40 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has quit ("Client Exiting") 18:40 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has joined #rocklinux 18:47 -!- cOdEz [~codez@pD952B1E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:53 < rxr> re 18:59 -!- andrew [hidden-use@12-238-26-117.client.attbi.com] has joined #rocklinux 19:04 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.66.18] has joined #rocklinux 19:04 < daja77> re 19:04 < Mike1> ping rolla 19:04 < Mike1> re all 19:04 < daja77> hi Mike1 19:04 < Mike1> rolla: PING PING PING 19:04 < Mike1> hi daja77 :) 19:06 < Mike1> daja77: und bye again 19:06 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.66.18] has quit (Client Quit) 19:06 < daja77> *argh* this sucks 19:08 < rxr> hi daja77 19:10 < daja77> hahaha I somehow managed to have an rc2 kernel package and the header package rc3 in that build *grml* 19:11 < rxr> the headers are really unimportant 19:12 < rxr> coul use the current ones for the next years or so 19:12 < rxr> it is just the application interface, and Linus himself said he uses some old 2.0 or 2.2 ones ... 19:12 < daja77> well I don't mind just wondering 19:13 < rxr> see the /usr/include/{linux ,asm} symlink vs. copy threads 19:13 < daja77> well my beverages are out need to do some shopping (or dying) 19:14 < rxr> daja77: oO ... 19:17 < daja77> well now reinstalling the gems of disc 2 19:18 * daja77 shopping 19:18 < daja77> cu 19:47 < LocalHero> Wow, the new build system looks great :) Good work everybody 19:54 < LocalHero> ARrgh, error on first package. 19:54 < LocalHero> cp: invalid option -- L 19:54 < daja77> hi LocalHero 19:54 < LocalHero> hi daja77 :) 19:55 < LocalHero> Seams that rock-1.4 had a to old cp :( 19:56 -!- ta-bernakle [~sreixach@232.Red-213-97-38.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:56 < ta-bernakle> # Appears as ANNA. 19:56 < daja77> hi ta-bernakle 19:57 < ta-bernakle> hi. How are you? 19:57 < daja77> fine 19:58 < daja77> ta-bernakle: bad idea to ask my clock :) 19:58 < ta-bernakle> what are you doing, daja77? 19:58 < daja77> idling waiting for a box finishing its install 19:59 < ta-bernakle> ah, muy bien. 19:59 < daja77> do I know you? 19:59 < LocalHero> Does anybody know what package cp comes from? 20:00 < daja77> coreutils? 20:00 < LocalHero> thnx 20:00 < daja77> just a guess 20:00 < ta-bernakle> no, daja 20:01 -!- ta-bernakle [~sreixach@232.Red-213-97-38.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #rocklinux () 20:02 < LocalHero> hmm, i have found out that my current computer is to slow :( 20:04 < daja77> hehe everybody finds that out somehow 20:04 < LocalHero> It would be nice to find out if the new amd64 is a great thing? Anybody who has tested it? 20:05 < daja77> haha you can't even buy it 20:05 < LocalHero> daja77, what do you mean? 20:06 < daja77> I mean I haven't seen them in the shops 20:07 < LocalHero> https://www.datorbutiken.com/se/default.php?artId=OPT240B 20:08 < daja77> ah wtf the processor only or what 20:08 < rolla> wow 20:08 < rolla> owl is not here 20:09 < LocalHero> Uhh yup, looks like it? 20:09 < daja77> rolla: you are glad about that? 20:09 < Aard> daja77: its meant to be used in servers. look at how much a nice xeon costs. or hoh moch an itanic costs 20:09 < rolla> daja77: nope 20:09 < rolla> wanted to say hi 20:10 < daja77> rolla: do it in #anarchy 20:10 < daja77> Aard: I don't care where they should be used, I simply want them 20:11 < LocalHero> Well, they dont sell any motherboards? Wow, maybe they dont have them yet? 20:12 < Aard> daja77: a) wait till they release sledgehammer for desktop b) pay about $3000 c) give amd a good reason to donate you one. is there a rock-port for athlon64? ;) 20:12 < daja77> c) yes there is a port afaik 20:12 < Aard> daja77: ok, then you have to find another reason ;) 20:13 * daja77 puzzled 20:13 < LocalHero> uhh, how could there be a port if nobody has it? 20:14 < daja77> well at least there is preparation done in the tree 20:15 < Aard> daja77: you could start a chainletter -- `I have cancer and I'll die soon, last thing I want to have before I leave is a computer with a sledgehammer-CPU' 8) 20:15 < LocalHero> LOL :) 20:15 < daja77> hehehe 20:16 < daja77> I think I'd prefer a night with $most_wanted_actress 20:16 < Aard> daja77: that helps to get a sledgehammer-cpu? 20:16 < Aard> [x] send actress 20:17 < LocalHero> Well, has anybody tried to get the project sponsored? I will give it a try next week? What can we offer. Banner on the site? Sponsored by xxx? 20:17 < daja77> Aard: no that doesn't help getting that cpu, but that's what I want if I had cancer and had to die soon 20:18 < LocalHero> uhh, ups not xxx, i mean yyy 20:18 < daja77> hehe why not xxx they have money 20:18 < LocalHero> Hehe. I wounder if they are interested in rocklinux :) 20:18 < daja77> why not, it is better than sex, and sex is what they have all day 20:19 < LocalHero> daja77, ahh, good point :). 20:19 < Aard> does rocklinux include pornview? ;) 20:19 < daja77> xine and mplayer included, yes 20:20 < LocalHero> The only problem is that it is hard to speak to them. They are always makeing those sounds when you phone them and nobody seams to notice that you are trying to make contact :) 20:20 < daja77> hehe mail them 20:21 < LocalHero> daja77,, hmm, well they are already mailing me to much. Dont want any more spam :( 20:21 < daja77> you definitely know the wrong people 20:22 < daja77> I wasn't talking of that penis enlargement scientists 20:22 < LocalHero> lol :) 20:22 < Aard> daja77: why? it works. see userfriendly ;) 20:22 < daja77> userfriendly penis enlargement, huh? 20:22 < LocalHero> Hehe, but seriusly, if we got sponsored. Would it be possible to have like a sign that says sponsored by yyy on the site? Or do we want that? 20:23 < daja77> sure we want that, btw we already have that (powerpc port sponsored by ibm) 20:23 < LocalHero> daja77,, ahh, oki :) 20:23 < Aard> daja77: https://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030527 20:24 < LocalHero> Just so that i know if i start calling companies 20:24 < daja77> well ask on the list, but I don't think there will be problems 20:25 < daja77> Aard: *lol* 20:26 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4FD53.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:26 < daja77> my favourite userfriendly picture is that of the aol pc 20:26 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p50801967.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: blindcod1r!blindcoder@pD9E4FD53.dip.t-dialin.net))) 20:26 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 20:27 < daja77> hey blindcoder 20:28 * daja77 thinks of goin out today ... 20:28 < Aard> daja77: its hot out there. don't do it. 20:29 < daja77> yeah but I could go to a club with cute chicks in it ... 20:31 * daja77 throwing up a coin 20:31 < Aard> daja77: if you have enough money to throw it away -- pleas send it to me :) 20:32 < daja77> Aard: nah not a commercial club, just a decent english club, cute chicks there anyway ;) 20:33 < Aard> i referred to `daja77 throwing up a coin' 20:33 < daja77> I picked it up again (was a pfand coin anyway) 20:33 < blindcoder> g'evening all 20:34 < daja77> evening blindcoder 20:34 -!- uninvit3d [~uninvited@ppp-62-245-163-1.mnet-online.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:35 < daja77> this fscking machine still copying 20:35 < daja77> so I am off idling somewhere else 20:35 < blindcoder> moin uninvit3d 20:36 < uninvit3d> Hi blindcoder! 20:36 < daja77> hi uninvit3d 20:37 < daja77> ok cu 20:40 < uninvit3d> Hello every1 20:49 -!- A-Tui [~eof@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 20:50 < A-Tui> hi 20:51 < blindcoder> moin 20:51 < A-Tui> moin blindcoder 20:53 < LocalHero> WEll, got to do something usfull no, cya all 20:55 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has quit () 21:08 < Aard> do you have to leave irc to do something useful? *hiding irc-logs* 21:18 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M257P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 21:28 -!- uninvit3d [~uninvited@ppp-62-245-163-1.mnet-online.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 21:30 -!- jose is now known as jose_fighting_fb 21:38 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA83D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:39 < tcr> moin all 21:44 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.66.18] has joined #rocklinux 21:44 < Mike1> re all. 21:45 < tcr> moin Mike1 21:45 < Aard> hi tcr 21:46 < tcr> moin Aard, et al 21:48 * tcr reads niko's mail, and doesn't really know what to comment 21:48 -!- Aard [~bwachter@dsl-213-023-226-191.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("leaving") 21:48 -!- bwachter [~bwachter@aardchat.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:48 -!- jose_fighting_fb [~jose@196.40.45.146] has quit ("testing new firewall configuration") 21:51 -!- bwachter is now known as Aard 21:51 < Aard> re 21:53 < Mike1> tcr: don't comment, just laught :) 21:53 -!- jose [~jose@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux 21:54 < tcr> Mike1: Well, the problem is that I can't really laugh at that yadda yadda 21:54 < Mike1> tcr: why not? are u a Gentoo guy ? *vbeg* 21:55 * Mike1 guesses tcr's silence means yes.. 21:55 < Mike1> oh poor boy. 21:55 < tcr> Mike1: Nah, it's obtusing prattle without any real arguments 21:55 < Mike1> i see 21:56 < tcr> I share the writer's attitude, but nevertheless I don't think much is true as it is written there 21:57 < tcr> (Yeah I know it's just satiric meaning, but anyway..) 21:58 < rolla> re Mike1 21:58 < Mike1> i think those writters are pathetic and senceless. 21:58 < Mike1> hi Joel 21:58 < Mike1> rolla: happy? 22:01 < tcr> Mike1: I don't think so. That's again too generic.. I actually like satire writings (but only if they're good and as such have content, and so a argumentive grounding)) 22:01 < tcr> but don't chat about that.. I'm actually reading ;) 22:01 < Mike1> fine to me. 22:02 * Mike1 turns back to tcr and looks somewhere else. 22:08 < rolla> Mike1: yes 22:08 < rolla> thanks 22:09 < Mike1> rolla: no need to thank me my friend :) 22:09 < Mike1> what's your status on the dns? 22:12 -!- Robin_Root [emix@ip306-2-8.dialup.edisontel.com] has joined #rocklinux 22:13 < esden> hi all 22:13 < Robin_Root> Hi 22:13 < esden> hi Robin_Root 22:13 < Mike1> hi esden und Robin_Root 22:15 < Mike1> i will see u guys later 22:15 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.66.18] has quit ("leaving") 22:17 < Aard> esden: btw, did you ever try to link emacs against dietlibc? :) 22:17 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA83D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Mess with the best, die like the rest!") 22:18 < esden> thank god no ... 22:18 < esden> @ Aard 22:19 < Aard> esden: fuck. I'm currently trying to find something stupid enough to get it working :) 22:20 < esden> Aard: which gcc are you using for dietlinux? 22:20 < Aard> 3.2.3 22:21 < Aard> btw, updated my irssi-binary to support ipv6 22:21 -!- cOdEz [~codez@pD952B1E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("n8") 22:25 < esden> Aard: congrats 22:25 < esden> hmm ... I have to say that it is much easier to get the packets compile when you do not have to make it automatically buildable .... 22:25 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082D81D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:25 < tsa> hi all. 22:26 < esden> when I would not use rock I would not need so much time to get it running 22:26 < esden> but that way it is easier to update packets ;-) 22:26 < esden> and the way I got the packets compiling is automatically documented ;-) 22:27 < Aard> esden: since I have the includes and libs at the default location most of the autoconf-software works out-of-the-box 22:28 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-ls-13-1-dialup-205.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 22:30 < esden> hmm .. that is inpossible in my situation .. when dietlibc has also to be installable on a system using glibc ... and also usable in hybrid systems 22:30 < esden> if I had it in the dietlibc targed different to other targets that would not be clean 22:30 < Aard> jup. I don't habe that problem -- DietLinux ist dietlibc only ;) 22:35 < esden> *dancing_around_his_room* 22:35 -!- Robin_Root [emix@ip306-2-8.dialup.edisontel.com] has quit ("Client Exiting") 22:36 < Aard> esden: you've just won a free penis-enlargement-kit? 22:36 < esden> ehhhm ... no ... my radio is only playing good music ... that happens only very seldom in my life so I dance ;-) 22:37 < tsa> uh-oh. 22:37 < esden> tsa: no that is nothing you want to hear ;-) 22:37 < esden> it is house ;-) 22:37 < tsa> indeed. 22:38 < Aard> esden: my radio plays what my computer tells it to play. that's mostly what I wnat to hear 22:39 < Aard> btw, are there any texts describing your current problem? I've been looking for some time now, without success 22:40 < esden> nope ... I searched the net very long and very often ... and I have not found anything apropriate ... 22:40 < esden> I currently wait till my rocktree is updated so that I can test my solution 22:41 < Aard> sorry, I mean something written by you, describing what you did and where you stuck 22:41 < esden> ahh ... no ... since I do not write advogato entrys there is nothing described ... I think I should restart writing blog 22:42 < tsa> esden: hm..you seem to have too much time. 22:42 * tsa hates personal homepages. 22:42 < tsa> "me, a pic, my hobbies, greets to my friends and my blog" 22:43 < tsa> useless links. 22:45 < Aard> tsa: why not add some personal info on a technical page? 22:45 < tsa> Aard: boring stuff. at least in 99% 22:46 < esden> tsa: 99% of everything is crap ... but the 1% counts ;-) 22:47 < tsa> esden: then try to be among the 1%, please. 22:47 < esden> I try all the time to be in the 1% of not crap things ;-) 22:47 < Aard> tsa: sometimes I'd like to know more about people im working/talking with -- but name/age/picture/country is enough 22:49 < tsa> sebastian/24/see devel gallery/.de 22:50 < Aard> tsa: *patsch* ;) 22:50 < tsa> hehe 22:51 < Aard> btw, most people visiting my pages are happy after visiting the site about my rabbits. and that's what I'd call a personal page ;) 22:58 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-ls-13-1-dialup-205.freesurf.ch] has quit ("Client exiting") 23:03 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090A795.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23:18 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090B726.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:24 < esden> rxr: the rocklinux download mirrors are out of date ... 23:24 < esden> and that pretty much ... 23:25 < esden> hmm ... but there were many package updates in the last time ... ok ... it cam be that they are not yet synced ... :-/ 23:29 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50817CDA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 23:30 < Aard> esden: btw, gpg compiles with minor fixes (some functions are definded with ulong in .h, but implemented with unsigned long in .c) -- and works. 23:36 < esden> nice 23:37 < esden> ok ... the patch with the idea of the fix is ready 23:42 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.66.18] has joined #rocklinux 23:42 < esden> re Mike1 !! 23:42 < esden> god bless you Mike1 23:42 < Mike1> hi esden !! 23:42 < Mike1> god bless u too :) 23:43 < esden> how are you my friend? 23:43 < Mike1> i am great!! 23:43 < Mike1> esden: i just ROCKed an smp box with _raid_ :) 23:43 < esden> that is great ;-) 23:43 < Mike1> how are u ? 23:43 < esden> I am fine ... still waiting for package downloads to finish ... so I can test my dietlibc target fix 23:44 < Mike1> damn boot disks had no support for this damn raid, but them i tweaked around for like 15 minutes and now it works 23:44 < Mike1> so i guess i will provide a patch tomorrow or so, if i get a "decent" conection 23:45 < Mike1> i'm hatting dialup ... :(( 23:45 < esden> what connection do you get? 23:45 < Mike1> esden: oh no, i got dialup currently. tomorrow i go to a freidns office, and submit _lots_ of work from there 23:46 < Mike1> still he has only 128k .. but its better than dialup :(( 23:46 < esden> ahh ok ... that is nice 23:46 < Mike1> esden: i'm remebering of your days in poland.. 23:46 < esden> in comparison to dialup ... 23:46 < esden> hehe ... these days will come back >_< 23:46 < esden> in summer 23:47 < Mike1> i will enjoy that :) 23:47 < esden> GRRRRR 23:47 < Mike1> u just get quite pissed :P 23:47 < Mike1> esden: maybe u should come to cr in summer.. 23:47 -!- A-Tui [~eof@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("esden: maybe u should come to cr in summer..") 23:47 < esden> not quite ... I got very pissed by that >_< 23:48 < Mike1> i understand the feeling esen 23:48 < esden> Mike1: no thanks ... I will have enough problems to come to your wedding ... 23:48 < Mike1> esden: hehe so u will come?!?! :)))) 23:48 < esden> as I said before ... I will try hard to 23:48 < Mike1> yeah!!! 23:48 * Mike1 jumping around 23:49 < Mike1> :)) 23:49 < esden> argh ... xemacs takes ages to download ... /me kicks emacs and everything similar to it 23:49 < Mike1> esden: who needs it anyways 23:49 < esden> some freaks ;-) 23:49 < Mike1> i might use it if i had 16 fingers or so.. 23:49 < esden> Aard: you need that right? 23:49 < Mike1> urrgs :) 23:52 < esden> ok ... dietlibc target build running ... I do not want to wait longer for the download 23:53 < Mike1> *gg* 23:59 < Aard> esden: emacs? yes, I'm using gnus. with emacs I'd have a DietLinux-box containing everything I need to live.. ;) 23:59 < Mike1> esden: who is Aard btw? --- Log closed Wed Jun 04 00:00:09 2003