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--- Log opened Sat Jun 07 00:00:50 2003 --- Day changed Sat Jun 07 2003 00:03 -!- daja77 [daja@rotuma.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de] has quit ("Lost terminal") 00:04 -!- uninvit3d [~uninvited@ppp-62-245-162-190.mnet-online.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:04 -!- daja77 [daja@rotuma.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:05 -!- csimonut [~csimonut@chello080110223018.115.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #rocklinux 00:05 < csimonut> tag 00:05 < capchaos> Nacht 00:06 < csimonut> stimmt eigentlich 00:06 < capchaos> LANG=en 00:06 < csimonut> ok 00:11 < Mike1> n8 all 00:12 < csimonut> hi 00:12 < daja77> hi csimonut 00:19 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rolla, Parabull_, A-Tui 00:19 < netrunner> re from rentnerrock 00:24 -!- A-Tui [~eof@213.254.87.195] has joined #rocklinux 00:25 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-161-215.arcor-ip.net] has left #rocklinux () 00:26 -!- uninvit3d [~uninvited@ppp-62-245-162-190.mnet-online.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 00:29 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rolla 00:30 -!- Parabull_ [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has joined #rocklinux 01:00 -!- csimonut [~csimonut@chello080110223018.115.11.vie.surfer.at] has quit ("Client exiting") 01:04 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 01:04 < armijn> re 01:04 < daja77> hey armijn, welcome 01:04 < armijn> anyone here happening to go to the RockHard festival tomorrow? 01:05 < armijn> no one going there? 01:05 * daja77 not 01:05 < armijn> ah well, I'll go there... 01:06 < armijn> will wear my blue OpenBSD shirt, so... 01:06 < daja77> have fun, where is it btw? 01:06 < armijn> Gelsenkirchen 01:06 < armijn> (sp?) 01:06 < daja77> huh? 01:06 < armijn> huh what huh? 01:07 < daja77> what was that sp? thing 01:07 < armijn> ah 01:07 < armijn> (sp?) means I'm not too sure about the spelling 01:07 < daja77> ic, spelling was correct ;) 01:07 < armijn> ok 01:08 < armijn> will be a two hour drive...maybe 2.5 01:08 < daja77> would be more than 5 for me ... 01:08 < armijn> well, but I'm not you so... 01:08 < armijn> ha! 01:08 < armijn> :) 01:08 < daja77> hehehe 01:09 < armijn> but am off to bed, have to get up early and I'm tired 01:09 * armijn gone 01:09 < armijn> cu! 01:09 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux () 02:28 -!- A-Tui [~eof@213.254.87.195] has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.1") 02:42 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Real Life is just an illusion caused by IRC deprivation") 02:43 < FaUl> gn8 # 05:11 -!- maisenhe [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:11 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:12 -!- maisenhe is now known as rolla 05:12 < rolla> re 06:44 -!- huebi_ [~huebi@pD9522281.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 06:53 -!- huebi [~huebi@pD952289A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08:49 < rxr> re 08:57 -!- Robin_Root [Emix@ppp-20-226.29-151.libero.it] has joined #rocklinux 10:21 -!- Robin_Root [Emix@ppp-20-226.29-151.libero.it] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:24 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p508019C5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("hardware") 11:02 -!- uninvit3d [~uninvited@ppp-62-245-163-181.mnet-online.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:11 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F60E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:11 < blindcoder> moin 11:39 < netrunner> moin 11:49 < fronti> moin 12:00 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:20 < daja77> re 12:37 -!- n00kie [~Burkhard@M311P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 12:38 -!- fronti [kliche@zebra.fh-weingarten.de] has left #rocklinux () 13:07 < rxr> hi daja77 13:09 < daja77> hi rxr 13:10 < daja77> rxr: are there some docs describing how to write a stone module? 13:10 < rxr> daja77: erhm - I think no ... 13:10 < rxr> just take a look to the yaboot or so one and adapt it .. 13:11 < daja77> ah and the patches would go over the list, or is stone a seperate project? 13:11 -!- n00kie_ [~Burkhard@M284P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 13:12 < rxr> to the list 13:12 < rxr> our package simply add a file in /etc/stone.d - the sonte basics are in the sysfile package .. 13:14 < daja77> hmm ic nice job for pentecost to write a stone module for isdn config ... 13:15 < daja77> btw I like that kernel module part of stone ... 13:15 < daja77> :)) 13:17 * daja77 off for breakfast && shopping, cu 13:18 < rxr> cu daja77 13:19 -!- n00kie [~Burkhard@M311P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:29 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802262.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:35 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-mu-11-1-dialup-92.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 13:43 -!- uninvit3d [~uninvited@ppp-62-245-163-181.mnet-online.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 13:52 < zer0_o> does anyone have problem-solve experiences in X ? =( 13:53 < rxr> zer0_o: to some degree 13:53 < rxr> what problem ? 13:54 < zer0_o> i was just editing 'xinitrc' and then x went down ... now it doesn't come up again =( i try to configure things since an hour. when i do 'XFree86 -xf86config /etc/X11/XF86Config' X works properly. but with 'startx' it just screen-flashes and goes back to console, without a message or warning. 13:55 < rxr> maybe simply a typo in your xinitrc ? 13:55 -!- Robin_Root [Robin_Root@ip157-2-22.dialup.edisontel.com] has joined #rocklinux 13:56 < zer0_o> i '#'-ert all what i have written .. and if i delete all text in it, it just does nothing .. 13:56 < Robin_Root> Hi 13:56 < rxr> zer0_o: do you use rock - or another distribution? 13:56 < zer0_o> no linux =P 13:57 < rxr> an BSD ? 13:57 < zer0_o> yes 13:57 < zer0_o> freebsd 13:57 < rxr> mv .xinitrc .xinit-new 13:57 < rxr> maybe simply no normal X initial program is lunched with an empty .xinitrc ? 13:58 < rxr> er of course .xinitrc-new ... - but doesn't matter 13:59 < zer0_o> in in $home or global ? 13:59 < rxr> zer0_o: have you edited the home or global one? 14:00 < zer0_o> the global one 14:00 < zer0_o> when there is one in $home - hmm - just a sec 14:01 < zer0_o> *laughts* now it starts .. but why ? 14:01 * zer0_o hugs rxr 14:04 < rxr> the X server is not running with no programs accessing it 14:04 < rxr> you need a client program - or it will exit ... 14:04 < rxr> if you have an empty xinitrc -> no client program ... 14:04 < zer0_o> there is no '.xinitrc' in $home. 14:04 < zer0_o> really? 14:09 < zer0_o> rxr, i tryed more: when i 'mv xinitrc xinitrc.old' X starts properly, but if i start 'xinitrc' with programs in it (eg. fluxbox) then it doesn't work.. 14:09 < zer0_o> it's confusing =( 14:11 < zer0_o> now i created a file in $home that's called '.xinitrc' with fluxbox started, that doesn't work too 14:13 < rxr> then it is not able to start fluxbox ... 14:13 < rxr> maybe not in path ... 14:13 < rxr> or DISPLAY is not properly set ... 14:14 < rxr> or or or - consult your BSD manual :-) 14:14 < rxr> try xterm - it should work ... 14:15 < zer0_o> xterm doesn't work too ;) 14:15 < rxr> then DISPLAY is not set ... (I guess) 14:16 < zer0_o> when i start X without global 'xinitrc' and $home '.xinitrc' then it starts properly with a little xterm... when i start fluxbox in this term, it works. 14:17 < zer0_o> what do you mean with 'DISPLAY' ? 14:24 < rxr> environment variable DISPLAY 14:28 < zer0_o> it doesn't have a variable named $DISPLAY =) 14:32 -!- Robin_Root [Robin_Root@ip157-2-22.dialup.edisontel.com] has quit () 14:38 < rxr> zer0_o: you really never heard of the variable named DISPLAY? 14:38 < rxr> google for it ... 14:38 < zer0_o> now it works ;) 14:39 < rxr> and btw, sorry I do not have the time to answer everyones unix questions ... :-( 14:39 < rxr> zer0_o: nice that it works now ... 14:39 < zer0_o> sorry rxr, don't help me if you don't want to .. 14:40 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Parabull_ 14:40 < zer0_o> i know, helping takes time, and to be honest, i hate supporting people in our hotline ;) 14:40 < zer0_o> but nice you had some time =)) 14:42 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Parabull_ 14:46 -!- IRCMonkey [~chatzilla@gso56-189-251.triad.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux 14:49 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802AF1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:52 -!- IRCMonkey [~chatzilla@gso56-189-251.triad.rr.com] has quit () 15:26 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA910E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:34 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-mu-11-1-dialup-92.freesurf.ch] has quit () 16:07 -!- mnemoc [~mnemoc@200.75.27.98] has joined #rocklinux 16:07 -!- bubu [~bubu@62.173.152.106] has joined #rocklinux 16:08 < mnemoc> re 16:08 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:08 < mnemoc> rxr? 16:08 < rxr> hi mnemoc 16:08 < mnemoc> :-) 16:09 < mnemoc> apropos gcc33.... i did a last change that break weirdly gcc :-\ .... the read on apply-protector 16:09 < daja77> hi mnemoc 16:09 < mnemoc> hi daja77 16:09 < mnemoc> i used pfile=echo | grep | tr | tr | cut 16:09 < mnemoc> and worked 16:10 < rxr> mnemoc: the part that also was in your patch? 16:10 < mnemoc> now, using read apply-protector returned false 16:10 < daja77> gcc33, does this mean that stable is delayed? 16:10 < rxr> daja77: nope additional package 16:10 < daja77> aah good 16:10 < rxr> as long as we have not fixed all gcc33 regressions it will not become the default ... 16:10 < rxr> (we are not 1.5 ....) 16:11 < mnemoc> the weirdest is it doesnt enter any part of the if :-| 16:11 < rxr> daja77: but I did some linux* changes that where a little intrusive ... 16:11 < daja77> *gg* well didn't know 1.5 ... 16:11 < daja77> rc related stuff 16:11 < mnemoc> sure... but where? 16:11 < Aard> `good morning viet^#rocklinux' ;) 16:12 < mnemoc> (good movie) 16:12 < rxr> nope - general code flow to support serveral linux binaries 16:12 < tcr> (off topic): Does anyone know a discovery tool wether a HD is broken? Or some other way..? 16:13 < tcr> please don't say 'scandisk' now! ;) 16:13 -!- bubu [~bubu@62.173.152.106] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:13 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:14 < rxr> tcr: this SMART read stuff we have in ROCK ... 16:14 < daja77> tcr: there are vendor specific tools for that afaik 16:14 < rxr> (forgot the name ...) 16:14 < rxr> smartmontools 16:14 < rxr> yep - or manufactor dependent tools ... 16:15 < mnemoc> rxr: i found it... a damn type 16:15 < mnemoc> typo 16:15 < daja77> hehehe 16:15 < mnemoc> can you add a ';' after grep in apply-protector? 16:15 < tcr> Thanks.. Will try first if it has something to do with dma 16:15 < daja77> how do you call a typo in typo, is this a meta typo ... 16:16 < mnemoc> meta typo :D 16:17 * tcr wonders... german mirror #1 still doesn't work (ie. www.rocklinux.de) 16:21 < mnemoc> rxr:? 16:31 < mnemoc> :-( 16:33 < daja77> mnemoc: ?? 16:34 * tcr finds the ibm homepage absolutely confusing.. 16:34 < mnemoc> i don't like to be responsable of broken rocks :-( 16:34 < daja77> hehehe 16:34 < daja77> tcr: full ack, but siemens hp is worse 16:35 < tcr> I'll now search via google.. 16:35 < Aard> tcr: the current revision is _really_ good for an IBM homepage. the best I've ever seen 16:36 < tcr> Aard: How wonderful... Unfortunately that doesn't change anything for me 16:36 < Aard> (my employer is IBM business partner, I have to use this page often) 16:36 < Aard> tcr: I just wanted to say `be happy, it could be worse' ;) 16:37 < tcr> Heartfelt condolescenses then 16:38 < daja77> anyone knows a non-sucking commercial hp? 16:38 < Aard> daja77: jup. `This homepage is under construction' 16:38 -!- Robin_Root [Robin_Root@ip116-2-8.dialup.edisontel.com] has joined #rocklinux 16:38 < daja77> hehe 16:38 < daja77> wb rxr 16:38 < Robin_Root> Hi 16:38 < daja77> damn irssi 16:39 < daja77> wb Robin_Root 16:39 < daja77> Robin_Root: thx for the map link, though a have a real here as well :) 16:40 < mnemoc> damn ibm... they removed the info about pc server 330-pII/266 :( 16:41 < Aard> mnemoc: s/re//;, I'd think ;) 16:41 < mnemoc> MR. ibm partener... can you help to to find it ;-) 16:42 < daja77> *gg* 16:42 < Aard> mnemoc: I don't think so -- but I know tha IBM uses domino for big parts of the IBM homepage, which makes it really easy to move contents to a place nobody can find them. 16:43 < daja77> *rofl* 16:43 < Aard> and you get a sucking search engine for free. 16:43 < mnemoc> i have a virgin domino here... i think i'll never use it :D 16:44 < daja77> O_o virgin domina, mnemoc! ;-) 16:45 < mnemoc> o_O 16:45 < Aard> btw, in the revision online about november/december last year they did this to the bp-login. you were able to find the bp-pages were you can read how cool iot is to be a bp, finding the bp login took 45 minutes extra. everytime. 16:45 < daja77> wtf is bp? 16:48 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E7B868.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:49 < daja77> hi martin_ 16:50 < martin_> hello all, hello daja77 16:52 < Aard> daja77: business partner 16:53 < daja77> ?? 16:54 < daja77> ah yes I got it, should read more carefully 16:56 < Aard> :) 16:57 < rxr> re 16:58 * daja77 too sleepy, damn heat ... 16:58 < mnemoc> rxr: read fails when gets no stdin :-\ 16:58 < Robin_Root> bye 16:58 -!- Robin_Root [Robin_Root@ip116-2-8.dialup.edisontel.com] has quit () 16:59 * tcr cries... 16:59 < daja77> why 17:00 < tcr> still need that tool... can't find anything 17:00 < rxr> mnemoc: I read srollback - I'll fix the typo (and do some tests ...) 17:00 < mnemoc> rxr: no 17:01 < mnemoc> i'm testing write now... 17:01 < mnemoc> :-) 17:01 < mnemoc> <<( ) <--- this fails 17:02 < mnemoc> so i replace it with pfile=$( echo "$3" | grep protector | tr ' ' '\t' | tr -s '\t' | cut -f2 ) 17:02 < martin_> rxr: Hello 17:02 < rxr> hi martin_ 17:03 < rxr> mnemoc: ok 17:03 < mnemoc> (damn Build-Tool... it had runned 7 times) 17:05 < mnemoc> runned or run? ... run? 17:05 < rxr> mnemoc: which damn Build-Tool ?? 17:06 < rxr> Committed revision 463. 17:06 < rxr> ^- mnemoc could you verify ? 17:07 < mnemoc> Build-Tool... Found x new/updated files.... once and again and again and again... i i took 4 minutes doing that find each time 17:12 < mnemoc> still w8ing for Build-Tool :-\ 17:13 < daja77> hihi mnemoc will change the nick soon ... 17:13 < mnemoc> :D 17:15 < mnemoc> you can't imagine how slow a '-> Creating tools.chroot/lib/parse-config.' can be 17:15 < mnemoc> == 11:18:56 =[2]=> Building base/gcc33 [3.3 2.0.0-beta4]. <--- yes yes yes!!! 17:16 * daja77 off now, cu 17:16 < mnemoc> 18 minutes of Build-Tools 17:17 < mnemoc> bye daja77 17:21 < mnemoc> rxr: it pass :) 17:22 < rxr> ack 17:35 < mnemoc> rxr: are you testing linux25 with gcc33 or gcc3? 17:37 < rxr> I do stabelization work - so I work with gcc3 currently ... 17:38 < rxr> but I'll setup a regression test which will automatically build stage 0-4 for all compilers on x86 and for all architectures using the default compiler ... 17:38 < rxr> I would like to introduce a issue tracking system 17:39 < rxr> any ideas? (SMP maybe?) BugZilla depends on so many external things :-( 17:40 < mnemoc> anything smaller than bugzilla? 17:41 < mnemoc> bugzilla is too 'fat' for rock 17:43 < rxr> issuetrack from the subversion people *locks* nice 17:43 -!- n00kie_ [~Burkhard@M284P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Reconnect") 17:43 < rxr> but seems to be a rewritten bugzilla and needs some java server stuff 17:44 < rxr> (and I hate java ...) 17:44 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M284P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 17:45 < mnemoc> wb n00kie 17:46 < n00kie> ty alejandro :) 17:47 < mnemoc> rxr: what about a tutos.rocklinux.org ;-) 17:48 < mnemoc> (cliff would hate it.. i think) 17:48 < tcr> rxr: url? 17:49 < mnemoc> ww.tutos.org 17:52 < rxr> nope 17:52 < rxr> I want a issue tracker - not an adress book 17:53 < mnemoc> kiss :) 17:54 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-141-226.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:57 < mnemoc> and gnats? 17:59 < mnemoc> i has no calendar *g* 18:04 < rxr> the gcc poeple are converting from gnats to bugzilla ... 18:05 < mnemoc> doh 18:05 < tcr> rxr: https://roundup.sourceforge.net/ 18:06 < mnemoc> the 'why' could be important.... maybe gcc is to big for gnat... may be gnats is crappy 18:07 < tcr> rxr: mom, I'm searching for a real world example that uses roundup 18:08 < tcr> rxr: https://issues.fresco.org 18:23 < rxr> slow ... 18:23 < Mike1> moin 18:26 < tcr> rxr: ack.. I'm told that has to do with mod_python, namely that it apparantly spawns a new process for each connection 18:26 < tcr> moin Mike1 18:26 < Mike1> :) 18:31 < rxr> hi mnemoc 18:31 < rxr> err Mike1 18:31 < Mike1> hi Ren 18:33 < esden> hi all 18:33 < Mike1> rxr: have you been able to enable support for DAC960? i have been trying but i have some "space" problems :(( 18:33 < esden> ping Aard 18:34 < esden> 100% packet loss :-( 18:38 * Mike1 is talking to Aard 18:38 < esden> Mike1: where is he? 18:39 < Mike1> owls cahn 18:39 < Mike1> chan 18:39 < rxr> Mike1: erhm 18:40 < esden> Mike1: I better stay away from that chan 18:41 < rxr> Mike1: it should be enabled as module ... 18:41 < rxr> isn_t it loadavble at the install prompt ? 18:41 < Mike1> rxr: i know but the initrd will scream 18:44 < Aard> esden: ? 18:46 < rxr> Mike1: scream? why? 18:46 < esden> Aard: have you tested the patches I have sent to you? 18:47 < Mike1> rxr: because it will tell me that there is no space left on the "device" 18:47 < Mike1> which the tmp file 18:47 < Mike1> you see with the modules inclussion it will be 4.2mb .. 18:48 < Aard> esden: read, but not tested. I got home from work yesterday at 21:00, and was unable to do anything useful after that. I'll test it this evening or tomorrow 18:51 * tcr feels like watching a Monty Python episode... 18:51 < esden> Aard: ok thanks ... I was only curious 18:51 < Aard> tcr: ? 18:52 < tcr> Aard: Just feel so, unforunately I don't have any episode here 18:53 < tcr> I wanna watch one, that's it 18:53 < Aard> watch `hitchhikers guid to the galaxy' :) 18:53 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M284P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:53 -!- cOdEz [~codez@p5087FFA9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:54 < tcr> I like the soccer match of philosophers very much 18:54 * -> esden bbl 19:12 < rolla> re 19:29 * tcr ponders.. 19:30 < tcr> ..wether it's technically possible to built up distributed computing for the sake of ROCK 19:31 < tcr> assuming all nodes would be using the same libc, same compiler version, and always using cross compilation 19:33 < tcr> Not sure if it's worth with a small usership 19:36 -!- hurki [~echelon@cmn9-d9ba6526.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:39 < tcr> moin hurki 19:40 < esden> re hi all 19:41 < mnemoc> Berkeley DB error while checkpointing after Berkeley DB transaction for filesystem /home/svn/rock-linux/db: 19:41 < mnemoc> DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery 19:42 < hurki> hello tcr 19:58 < rxr> mnemoc: argh 19:58 < mnemoc> i'm allways giving you good news 19:58 < Mike1> mnemoc: the good news guy 19:59 < Mike1> :) 19:59 < rxr> mnemoc: fixed 20:00 < mnemoc> i'm on 'good news' departament and... on the 'unstabelization group' 20:00 < Mike1> grrr... 20:00 < rxr> I leave svnserve temporary disabled to see if the problem will go away if apache only is used 20:00 < mnemoc> :-\ 20:00 < tcr> mnemoc is a terrorist! ;) 20:00 * mnemoc hates rxr 20:01 * Mike1 takes off his sword 20:01 < Mike1> mnemoc: take back what you said. 20:01 * mnemoc kiss the ring of rxr 20:02 < tcr> hate is the strongest nourishment that keeps you alive 20:02 < Mike1> mnemoc: good. 20:02 < tcr> feed it well, it may double your power 20:03 < mnemoc> :| 20:04 < Mike1> mnemoc: mortals, always thinking in the wrong way... 20:04 < Mike1> mnemoc: how is ur daughter? 20:04 < mnemoc> fine... counting to 10 and drawing walls 20:05 < Mike1> hehe 20:05 * tcr stands up, crakes and leaves a big mold in his chair 20:05 * tcr is gonna do some sports 20:05 < Aard> tcr: sit down. walking to the fridge to get a coke is enough. 20:05 < Mike1> enjoy my mortal friend.. :) 20:06 < Mike1> Aardvark hi :) 20:06 < Aard> hi Mike1 :) 20:06 < tcr> Aard: "Broad! Where's my beer?!" 20:06 < Aard> there. -> 20:07 * tcr bbl 20:09 * Aard turns on the light 20:16 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@www.digital-dictators.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:16 < holyolli> moin 20:17 < mnemoc> moin holyolli 20:18 < holyolli> hi mnemoc 20:28 < Mike1> holy! 20:29 < holyolli> hi mike 20:29 < holyolli> ! 20:30 < holyolli> mike: i have good news and bad news...which one first? ;-) 20:31 < Mike1> bad 20:31 < Mike1> ok good news first 20:31 < holyolli> mike: they decided to schedule our cpl check just a week after a planned to come - so that date wouldn't be possible for me 20:32 < Mike1> mmm... 20:32 < mnemoc> that's the good? 20:32 < holyolli> mike: but the nice thing is, that we got one more additionmal week in u.s. - when i'm finished with all my flight earlier (what's actually the tendency) i can come after all the flying 20:33 < holyolli> that would be the beginning of august 20:33 < Mike1> holyolli: excellent 20:33 < Mike1> holyolli: if everything goes fine, then there will 2 more visitors by then :) 20:33 < holyolli> unfortunately, i can't tell you an exact date atm - 20:34 < holyolli> mike: cool. who? 20:34 < Mike1> mnemoc: btw wanna come over to cr in august? 20:34 < holyolli> *g* 20:34 < Mike1> holyolli: rxr + his gf 20:34 < holyolli> that's nice! 20:34 < Mike1> holyolli: and i still have to hear from praenti for a exact date to come 20:34 < Mike1> he should be around those dates too 20:35 < holyolli> .oO(first (rock-)linuxtag in .cr... ;-) 20:35 < esden> roe 20:35 < holyolli> hi esden 20:35 < esden> hi holyolli 20:35 < Mike1> ack 20:36 < Mike1> holyolli: convince esden to come 20:36 < holyolli> mike: *g* 20:36 < Mike1> holyolli: and to bring me an alpha :) 20:37 < holyolli> esden: wanna join the first rocklinux-tag in .cr? ;-) 20:37 < holyolli> mike: i just only have a laptop here... :-p 20:37 < mnemoc> Mike1: i love too know your country, but my wallet wont be able to help me :( 20:37 < Mike1> holyolli: we could cool call it just a rocklinux developers meeting in cr 20:37 < Mike1> mnemoc: mm.. :( 20:40 < Mike1> i'm hungry, time to eat something bbl 20:40 < mnemoc> i'll follow you mike1 20:42 * holyolli is also back later...taking a morning shower ;) 20:45 < mnemoc> morning shower... ok o_O 20:52 < hurki> can you help me, please 20:54 < hurki> Building tools in build/.../tools.chroot: 20:54 < hurki> -> Building tools.chroot/wrapper/cmd_wrapper. 20:54 < hurki> cc: installation problem, cannot exec `as': No such file or directory 20:57 < hurki> results of a scripts/Build-Target 20:58 -!- cOdEz [~codez@p5087FFA9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:58 < holyolli> re 20:58 < esden> holyolli: sure I would like ... 20:59 < esden> but it is pretty expenive and difficult to come over there 20:59 < holyolli> mnemoc: it's just 12a.m here... 20:59 < holyolli> esden: i think the money is the limiting factor..? what does it cost from MUC? 21:02 -!- ceduardo [~blah@216.184.123.1] has joined #rocklinux 21:02 -!- ceduardo [~blah@216.184.123.1] has left #rocklinux () 21:03 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M284P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 21:03 < holyolli> hurki: i don't know. are you building from another platform? 21:06 < hurki> holyolli: no, ia32 only, and it used to work in the past 21:07 < mnemoc> hurki: can you run ./scripts/Create-ErrList ? 21:10 < Mike1> re 21:12 < hurki> Error logs from default-2.0.0-beta4-x86-pentium-minimal-expert: 21:12 < hurki> [1] base/linux24-src [1] base/binutils 21:12 < hurki> [1] base/mine [1] base/iproute2 21:12 < hurki> 421 builds total, 47 completed fine, 4 with errors. 21:15 < mnemoc> [1] base/binutils <-- that's why you get that error 21:16 < mnemoc> can you query me the tail -30 of 1-binutils.err? 21:16 < hurki> but just before it tried to build binutils with scripts/Build-Pkg binutils and it succeeded 21:17 -!- cOdEz [~codez@p5087FFA9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:17 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M287P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 21:22 < mnemoc> hurki: the error has just before what you paste :| 21:23 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M284P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:25 < mnemoc> can you paste me between 40 and 30? :) 21:26 < mnemoc> hurki: this is the important part 21:26 < mnemoc> <hurki> makeinfo: unrecognized option `--split-size=5000000' 21:26 < mnemoc> <hurki> Try `makeinfo --help' for more information. 21:27 < mnemoc> you have to update that on your local machine before building rock 21:28 < hurki> ok, but when i built it via Build-Pkg binutils it did NOT fail, why? 21:30 < Mike1> == 13:25:40 =[1]=> Building base/linux25 [2.5.70 2.0.0-beta4]. 21:30 < mnemoc> Mike1: linux24 is broken :( 21:30 < Mike1> == 06/07/03 13:25:39 =[1]=> Finished building package linux24. 21:30 < Mike1> no its not. 21:30 < Mike1> i just built it, latest svn 21:32 < esden> holyolli: I do not know ... I have not checked that yet 21:32 * tcr plans to visit Mike1 next year :) This summer is already taken 21:33 < Mike1> tcr: yes, i will be specting you 21:33 < Mike1> :) 21:34 < netrunner> re 21:34 < Mike1> hi netrunner 21:36 < hurki> what does 're' mean? 21:36 -!- cOdEz [~codez@p5087FFA9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 21:37 < tcr> 're'turn as in "I'm back" 21:37 < holyolli> hurki: re means, you;re back 21:37 < holyolli> ups... 21:37 < holyolli> .oO(first read, then think after that write...not vice versa holy...;-) 21:38 < Mike1> holy don't read, fly. 21:38 < hurki> thx 21:38 < holyolli> mike: *g*..btw, yesterday we finally had our night solos...was real fun 21:39 < rolla> going to burn it later tonight 21:39 < holyolli> mike: we had in an uncontrolled pattern a 757 from united with us =) 21:39 < Mike1> _COOL_ 21:40 < holyolli> mike: the best was the departe of the 757...he rotated and 15 secs after, he called out of the pattern =) 21:40 < Mike1> wee :) 21:42 * netrunner thinks of re as 'return' 21:42 < rolla> ja 21:54 < holyolli> does anybody know a webproxy, which is running on a low port and accessible from outside? 21:55 < holyolli> <-- needs a temporary proxy for this weekend 21:57 < tcr> holyolli: the only person, who might know it, is owl, I guess 21:58 < tcr> s,it,one, 21:58 < holyolli> tcr: ok - thanks 21:59 < netrunner> holyolli: is your outside a special net? maybe there's one? 22:01 < holyolli> netrunner: the problem is quiet simple: here at my location is a transparent proxy under windoze, which crashed last night. so i need another proxy anowhere in the .net to connect to 22:01 < holyolli> otherwise, i just get blank pages ;-) 22:01 -!- Robin_Root [emix@ip130-2-23.dialup.edisontel.com] has joined #rocklinux 22:02 -!- Robin_Root [emix@ip130-2-23.dialup.edisontel.com] has quit ("Client Exiting") 22:02 < tcr> g00gl3 it :P 22:02 < holyolli> hehe 22:04 -!- Robin_Root [emix@ip130-2-23.dialup.edisontel.com] has joined #rocklinux 22:13 -!- Robin_Root [emix@ip130-2-23.dialup.edisontel.com] has quit ("Client Exiting") 22:16 -!- thalerim [~tcr@pD9EAB9F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:33 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA910E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:36 -!- hurki2 [~echelon@cmn9-d9ba6526.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:37 -!- hurki [~echelon@cmn9-d9ba6526.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:37 < hurki2> re 22:37 < holyolli> re hurki 22:42 * holyolli has now to learn..cu l8ter 22:42 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@www.digital-dictators.de] has quit ("go learning...") 22:43 * Mike1 leaving 22:43 < Mike1> n8 22:44 < capchaos> n8 Mike1 22:45 -!- thalerim is now known as tcr 22:49 < netrunner> ah nice, transcode uses both cpus :) 22:54 < rxr> 2re 22:54 * SMP wonders what this huge find ... -newer build/.../.lastupdate ... in Build-Pkg is for 22:54 < SMP> takes several minutes 22:55 < SMP> rxr: btw. /opt/apache/bin/svn for the svn client is a *joke* ;> 22:59 -!- hurki [~echelon@cmn9-d9ba6526.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:59 -!- hurki2 [~echelon@cmn9-d9ba6526.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:03 < hurki> <YAAQ 23:05 < tcr> SMP: where's that in build-pkg? 23:06 < SMP> in Build-Tools 23:07 < hurki> sorry about that, i was cleaning my keyboard in order to improve its responsiveness ;-) 23:09 < daja77> re 23:09 < blindcoder> THE NEXT PERSON THAT SENDS A SUCH UNTESTED VERSION 23:09 < blindcoder> BUMP WILL BE STONED !!! 23:09 < blindcoder> hrm.... I wonder if I should send a patch :) 23:09 < blindcoder> g'evening all 23:09 < daja77> blindcoder: ?? 23:10 < rxr> daja77: this is a svn commit message 23:10 < blindcoder> daja77: commit-text from rev 468 to 469 23:10 < rxr> it is totally nonsense that s.o. updated linux25 when 4 patches do not apply anymore 23:11 < rxr> and noone for weeks fixes them ... ?!?!? 23:11 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E7B868.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Bye bye") 23:11 < blindcoder> rxr: hrm... maybe noone builds with linux25... 23:11 * daja77 does not 23:11 < rxr> SMP: but the prefix of subversion "should" be the same as the apache one since subversion installs a apache module ... that the client is in /opt/apache in this case is a co-accident ... 23:12 < rxr> blindcoder: but why does Miguel updates the package just for fun to break it ... 23:12 < daja77> rxr: he always does ... 23:12 < rxr> just do not touch stuff you do not use ... 23:12 < blindcoder> well... he did a few times before... I don't think it was intentional 23:13 < rxr> I made linux25 to be build now by default (the user can then select to boot it ...) - so we can track linux25 breakage quicker ... 23:13 < blindcoder> rxr: good :) 23:13 < daja77> hehe cool 23:13 < blindcoder> hrm... 23:13 < SMP> rxr: I know, but it's ugly. most of svn does not have anything to do with apache 23:13 < blindcoder> won't that increase build time by another 3 hours? 23:14 < rxr> it takes 50 minutes on my Athlon ... 23:14 < blindcoder> no... 5 hours... *cries* 23:14 < rxr> and maybe 30 on a recent one ... 23:14 < blindcoder> well, 2.4 takes about 65 minutes here 23:14 < blindcoder> Pentium4 1.8GHz 23:15 < rxr> a whole build takes 3 days or so ... so this doesn't matter that much ;-) 23:15 < daja77> huh why does the kernel takes that long *shakehead* 23:15 < blindcoder> rxr: right :) 23:15 < rxr> daja77: because we build most modules 23:15 < blindcoder> daja77: because about 75% of the kernel are built 23:15 < blindcoder> mostdajexcept some of the multiple times nested modules 23:15 < daja77> rxr: could it be that the gcc-3.2.3 si slowing the build down? 23:15 < rxr> daja77: even bluetooth, irda, isdn, ..., ... - everything you do not normally compile into your kernel ... so it takes a long time ... 23:16 < daja77> ic 23:16 < blindcoder> but cryptoAPI isn't built *cry* 23:16 < rxr> daja77: 3.2.3 or any gcc3 compiler? ;-) 23:16 < blindcoder> and rev 466 still had tons of unresolved symbols >_< 23:16 < rxr> blindcoder: would be nice if you analyze why ... 23:17 < rxr> daja77: gcc-3.3 should be a bit faster again ... 23:17 < daja77> rxr: I don't know my build lastet 24h some weeks ago now 36 and more, we haven't added that much new packages 23:17 < blindcoder> rxr: I don't know enough about the kernel to do that. I can do make menuconfig && make dep clean bzImage modules modules_install and that's about it 23:19 < rxr> daja77: and you build on the same box with the same kernel??? 23:19 < daja77> yes 23:19 < blindcoder> rxr: by the way, expect a patch to fix nethack around monday. 23:19 < rxr> blindcoder: ok - then I'll take a look after the regression tester first trials ... 23:19 < rxr> daja77: hm this sucks ... 23:19 < daja77> rxr: FULL ACK 23:20 < rxr> daja77: if you have spare time it would be nice to bring gcc-3.3 readyness into ROCK ... 23:20 * blindcoder now off to bed. good night everone *waves* 23:21 < rxr> daja77: I also had the "feeling" that the build on my iBook is slower now - but I could not track that down to some specific change ... (and this 800Mhy of PowerPC G3 power are not that fast to try too many combinations ...) 23:21 < rxr> blindcoder: sleep well! 23:21 < daja77> lemme see, have to configure isdn on crappy old box (hopefully can do a stone module of it), finish rtai rock, writing studienarbeit, so there is little time left, but I'll try asap 23:23 < daja77> d'oh can't remember when that misery starts, guess 2 or 3 weeks ago 23:24 < rxr> Testing cross-build to alpha ... 23:25 < rxr> ^- my first quick'n diry shell code for the regression tester is running a build ... 23:26 < daja77> nice that you mention that the last item on my todo is adding parisc arch ... 23:26 < rxr> daja77: you have a fast one ? 23:26 < daja77> I fear not 23:27 < daja77> it's a hp9000/710 23:29 * daja77 checking if rock has a mutella package 23:30 < capchaos> daja77, no, add it :) 23:31 < daja77> hey yes, the first package I want to have in it, which noone else has added ;-) 23:31 < daja77> capchaos: you tried that web interface? 23:31 < capchaos> daja77, links, ysm, pyslsk, ion, too please :) 23:31 < capchaos> daja77, no... 23:31 < daja77> it is funny 23:31 * daja77 using it cos of the fun ... 23:32 < daja77> https://mutella.sourceforge.net/webshots.php ;) 23:33 < netrunner> crap, now the giga two cpu using transcode fried my psu. or whatever. that damn case is hot that it is about to glow. 23:33 < capchaos> Ah, that one.. yes, but the ncurses interface is nicer. 23:33 < daja77> depends of how much queries you have 8--) 23:33 < daja77> I like the icons 23:34 < capchaos> daja77, you are an Iconmaniac 23:34 < daja77> dunno, I am a fan of that squid logo 23:34 < daja77> :P 23:34 < tcr> SMP: That find command looks for files that has been added since the last run of Build-Tools, in order to update *_WRAPPER_* (and some other) variables -- not really sure what they're really about. 23:35 < capchaos> daja77, if you like leeching files, try pyslsk too. 23:35 < daja77> what's that 23:36 < tcr> SMP: As I don't really know what those variables are for, a proposal for a better solution would be just blind prattle, so I'm gonna keep it for my own 23:43 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090B1F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:44 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-141-226.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("There is no spoon.") 23:49 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090A48F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:58 < rxr> cu in some minutes ... --- Log closed Sun Jun 08 00:00:07 2003