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--- Log opened Thu Jun 12 00:00:03 2003
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00:00 < daja77> hehe the answer:
00:00 < daja77> <@sander-afk> toby: a lot of difference
00:01 * daja77 puzzled, he is really answering, I guess he got a son today or something like that
00:01 < daja77> ROTFL, this guy is dumber than my ass
00:01 < daja77>  < toby> oh, the svnbook said svn update was different than cvs update
00:02 * Mike1 can't believe someone could reach such levels..
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00:03 < daja77> I better go to bed before dying fdrom laughter
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00:09 < tsa> hi all.
00:09 < daja77> hi tsa
00:09 < tsa> hi daja77
00:09 < daja77> gn8 you all
00:09 < tsa> rxr: are you awake?
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00:11 < Mike1> hi tsa
00:11 < tsa> hi Mike1
00:12 < tsa> Mike1: thanks for the courier-imap update, just approved it.
00:12 < Mike1> yes i saw, no problem tsa :)
00:12 < tsa> Mike1: although the package might disappear.
00:12 < Mike1> tsa: why?
00:13 < tsa> var_append INSTALL_WRAPPER_FILTER "|" \
00:13 < tsa>         'sed -e "s,bin/imapd,bin/imapd_courier," \
00:13 < tsa>              -e "s,man8/imapd.8,man8/imapd_courier.8,"'
00:13 < tsa> i did not approve this.
00:13 < Mike1> mmm...
00:13 < tsa> i did a test-build on my system to test your patch.
00:13 < Mike1> i guess it was rxr
00:14 < Mike1> tsa: i see no sence on this..
00:14 < tsa> Mike1: it's there because of the "shared files" problem
00:14 < Mike1> mm.. i see.
00:15 < Mike1> tsa: still why will the pkg disapear?
00:15 < tsa> although i'd rather introduce a new tag to mark conflicting packages than this kind of packages.
00:15 < tsa> Mike1: i built the package here.
00:15 < tsa> the lines above did not break the package.
00:16 < tsa> but they did break part of my mail system here, resulting in 11 mails lost..
00:16 < Mike1> tsa: so transfer that pkg to me if you don't want it..
00:16 < Mike1> arrgg!
00:17 < tsa> (it was expecting 7usr/bin/imapd, not something_weird_courier_somewhere_else)
00:17 < Mike1> yes i understand
00:17 < tsa> Mike1: in other words, using "my package" might cause mail loss or other problems.
00:18 < tsa> i'd rather not have the package at all than being responsible for this kind of problems..
00:18 < Mike1> mm... we should be able to find a better solution to this
00:18 < tsa> yes.
00:18 < tsa> conflicting packages.
00:19 < Mike1> what package(s) is it conflicting with?
00:19 < tsa> there is no sense in installing two imapd's at the same time.
00:19 < tsa> pine.
00:19 < tsa> (yes, there's a imapd binary hidden somewhere in pine..)
00:19 < Mike1> this sucks..
00:19 < tsa> there is no sense in installing two MTA's at the same time, either.
00:19 < tsa> indeed.
00:20 < tsa> the pine package would be the last place where i'd look for an imap daemon..
00:20 < tsa> note that this is not a "package bug", but a "design bug".
00:21 < Mike1> ack
00:24 < tsa> currently, i'd not even consider installing a generic build on my systems..
00:29 < Mike1> neither would i
00:29 < tsa> 3 different bdb versions.. ;)
00:29 < Mike1> anyways it is so damn easy to make personalized targets to fit _only_ your needs
00:29 < Mike1> tsa: sure we have almost every existing bdb version
00:29 < tsa> hehe ;)
00:32 < Mike1> n8 all
00:32 < tsa> cu Mike1
00:59 < esden> hi all
00:59 < tsa> hi esden
01:00 < esden> hi tsa 
01:02 < esden> hmm ... the perl gem package seems to be broken ... : "mine: installing GEM package: /blablabla/perl<blabla>.gem invalid argument ...
01:02 < esden> does it mean that that package has not been built or what?
01:02 < tsa> i don't know.
01:02 < tsa> is the gem-file present at all?
01:05 * -> esden checking
01:07 < esden> the package is there ...
01:07 < tsa> file perl.gem ?
01:08 < esden> perl5-5.8.0.gem
01:08 < esden> I will try to install that package manually when the installation is over ...
01:09 * -> esden is feeding his new 30 gb disk in his laptop ;-) *jumparound*
01:09 < esden> on suterday I get an external usb box for the old disc
01:10 < rxr> re
01:11 < esden> hi rxr 
01:12 < rxr> hi esden
01:12 * rxr is really stressing this iBook ...
01:13 * -> esden is stressing his new disc in his laptop with rock installation ;-)
01:13 < tsa> hi rxr
01:13 * rxr this iBook needs to sustain a constant load like "load average: 3.42, 3.08, 2.78"
01:13 < rxr> hi tsa
01:13 < tsa> rxr: got a question...
01:14 < tsa> package/tsa/courier-imap/courier-imap.conf
01:14 < tsa> var_append INSTALL_WRAPPER_FILTER "|" \
01:14 < tsa>         'sed -e "s,bin/imapd,bin/imapd_courier," \
01:14 < tsa>              -e "s,man8/imapd.8,man8/imapd_courier.8,"'
01:14 < tsa> who did add this?
01:14 < rxr> tsa: clifford
01:14 < tsa> remove it, please.
01:14 < rxr> why?
01:15 < tsa> because this fucks things up.
01:15 < rxr> tsa: svn log <some-file> is your friend if you wanna find out who did which modification of a file
01:16 < rxr> with this conf I have two modifications both labbeled "merge with cliff2 ...
01:16 < rxr> tsa: we will not install a imapd - you need to have a suffix anyway ...
01:17 < tsa> i did a test build of this package today to verify mike's patch, and this change in the package seriously made some trouble here.
01:17 < tsa> resulting in loss of 11 mails.
01:17 < tsa> rxr: i see.
01:17 < tsa> rxr: please remove the package, then.
01:18 < rxr> tsa: this is insane!?! Only because an executeable is shared between four packages or so you can not simply insist to have the unprefixed in this package?!? We decided to suffix all - so where is the problem?
01:20 < tsa> rxr: the problem is "crippling" a package that i maintain without getting my approval.
01:20 < tsa> i don't want to be responsible for this kind of change.
01:21 < tsa> if this is in contracdiction to the rock linux policy, i prefer to have the package removed.
01:21 < rxr> tsa: could you describe the problem in a more detailed technical way?
01:21 < tsa> sure.
01:21 < tsa> a part of my mail system expected a binary /usr/bin/imapd.
01:22 < tsa> (which wasn't there after the update but was there before.)
01:22 < tsa> consider it to be equal to send your mail to /dev/null directly instead
01:24 < tsa> i disagree with the policy as far as "shared files" are concerned.
01:24 < rxr> is this the normal way imapd is used, or some selfmade hacked setup which is simply too tumb to check return codes or so?
01:24 < tsa> i can't judge this. at least it's the way it's used here.
01:25 < rxr> when I thow a 2 years old Debian EXIM conig into a ROCK system this will also cause 100% mail loss ...
01:25 < tsa> (there is no sense in installing more than one imapd at the same time, btw)
01:25 < rxr> (just an example)
01:25 < tsa> my packages don't install exim config files ;)
01:26 < rxr> well - but 95% of the people install some default or all selection - and will not go thru any possible 700 packages just to deselect some ...
01:26 < tsa> anyway, this is the wrong way, IMHO.
01:26 < tsa> 95% of all people are dumb.
01:26 < tsa> i can't change that.
01:27 < rxr> even more important is what to do with opera ...
01:27 < tsa> you can move the package somewhere else and remove me as the maintainer, if you think that's better.
01:27 < tsa> good question
01:28 < tsa> i've cross-checked with the opera website.
01:28 < rxr> have you read the license or questioned them wether we are allowed to ship a converted (tar -> gem) binary package?
01:28 < tsa> you can download opera without having to agree to a license.
01:29 < tsa> the license agreement is shown the first time you start it.
01:29 < tsa> i'm still waiting for an answer from them
01:29 < rxr> ah ...
01:30 < rxr> tsa: is ti a problem just to accept that your imapd will be named impad_s.th. and just change your script? You won't need to the next years ...
01:30 < rxr> it always stays imapd_s.th. ...
01:31 < tsa> i'm keeping my personal version of the package here now..
01:32 < tsa> as long as it's not named imapd, i'll not maintain it.
01:44 < rxr> you could check for your userid during build ;-)
01:44 < tsa> hehe
01:45 < tsa> no way ;)
01:45 < tsa> anyway, /me going to bed, have to get up early.
01:45 < rxr> for a usb-device - that would be much saver ;-)
01:45 < tsa> when i recieve feedback from opera software, i'll tell you.-
01:45 < tsa> n8
01:45 < rxr> n8 tsa
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05:06 < esden> good morning everyone
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05:18 < Surfo> hi
05:19 < Surfo> ping Mike1
05:31 < esden> hi Surfo 
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07:11 < blindcoder> moin
07:12 < esden> moin blindcoder 
07:12 * -> esden pumping coffee in his vains
07:12 < blindcoder> hehe
07:13 * blindcoder waiting for the "Moebelpacker"
07:13 < esden> today is the moving day ...
07:13 < esden> hmm ... I got the router of my parents working ...
07:13 < esden> >_<
07:13 < esden> and for that I lost the night
07:14 < esden> but I also got my laptop working ... because sleeping two hours would kill me ...
07:14 * -> esden hugs his 30GB disc ;-)
07:14 < blindcoder> hrm
07:14 < esden> ?
07:14 < blindcoder> nothing
07:15 < blindcoder> I'm sleepy
07:15 < blindcoder> and this table looks comfartable
07:15 < esden> I feel like on drugs ;-)
07:16 < blindcoder> yeah
07:16 < blindcoder> sleep drugs
07:16 < esden> no lack of sleep drugs
07:17 < blindcoder> or that -_-
07:17 < n00kie_> moim blindy, esden :)
07:17 < esden> moin n00kie_ 
07:17 < blindcoder> moin n0
07:17 < blindcoder> moin n00kie_
07:17 < n00kie_> lazy tabuser
07:17 < n00kie_> ;)
07:18 < blindcoder> yeah
07:18 < blindcoder> and proud of it :P
07:18 < esden> blindcoder is proud of many strange things ... ;-)
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07:19 < Auzain> moin
07:19 * -> esden packing his stuff for uni
07:19 < esden> hi Auzain 
07:20 < Auzain> what time have you?
07:20 < esden> [07:20]
07:21 < Auzain> und schon wach?
07:22 < blindcoder> moin Auzain
07:22 < esden> no "immer noch wach" would be the right question for me ;-)
07:22 < Auzain> lol
07:22 < Auzain> moinmoin blindcoder
07:23 < Auzain> you know what?
07:23 < Auzain> i'm happy
07:23 < esden> o_O
07:23 < blindcoder> what happened?
07:23 < esden> I am happy too ... I have rock 2.0 beta3 on my laptop ;-)
07:23 < Auzain> my drock works (after 3 installs)
07:24 < esden> my laptop works since the first install ;-)
07:24 < Auzain> there was alway no /usr/include/gnu/stub.h
07:25 < Auzain> I copy it from my other distro and then it works
07:25 < Auzain> with what comes stub.h?
07:26 < Auzain> esden: rock 2.0 beta4
07:28 < esden> Auzain: that will be when I have run scripts/Update-System 
07:28 < esden> ;-)
07:28 < esden> ok ... I leave for uni now ... cu l8er ... hopefully if wireless lan works
07:29 < Auzain> good night esden ;-)
07:29 < esden> o_O
07:29 * -> esden is going to learn something not to sleep
07:29 < esden> ;-)
07:34 < Auzain> something I don't understand: scripts/Build-PkgVersion should give me a list of softs to update, I don't find this list, where is it?
07:35 < Auzain> scripts/Check-PkgVersion :]
07:36 < blindcoder> oka, my connection is to be cut in a few minutes... I hope I'm back before lunch
07:36 < blindcoder> bye
07:38 < Auzain> a+
07:48 * Auzain is away: a+
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08:43 < daja77> re
08:45 < Auzain> bonjour daja77
08:45 < daja77> bonjour Auzain
08:46 < Auzain> what's the difference bitween packages and packages.txt?
08:52 < Auzain> can I edit one of them manualy to remove lines?
09:02 < daja77> yes you can
09:03 < Auzain> packages or packages.txt?
09:05 < daja77> both
09:05 < daja77> but packages cantains the packages to build afaik
09:09 < Auzain> afaik?
09:09 < daja77> as far as I know :)
09:10 < Auzain> today I'll try to update kde, will see how it do that
09:12 < daja77> have fun :)
09:17 < Auzain> it seem there is a problem with kdemultimedia when kernel patched, do you know what about?
09:17 < daja77> yes kdemultimedia fails to build haven't had a closer look at it ...
09:26 < daja77> ok I am off now, cu
09:34 < esden> hi all
09:35 < Auzain> re esden: gut geschlaffen?
09:35 < esden> Auzain: >_<
09:35 < esden> I was not sleeping
09:35 < esden> now my wireless is working >_<
09:42 < Auzain> esden: do you know what about kdemultimedia and kernel>2.4.20?
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10:20 < rxr> re
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13:43 < daja77> re
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14:38 < rolla> re
14:39 < daja77> hi rolla :)
14:40 < rolla> == 07:33:06 =[5]=> Building base/linux25 [2.5.70 2.0.0-beta4].
14:40 < rolla> my build is going well :)
14:41 < daja77> fine
14:42 < tcr> I'm going to start one at the weekend. Yesterday the comp case for my new xp1,7ghz arrived, finally.
14:43 < daja77> hey great
14:45 < tcr> Yeah..
14:45 < rolla> daja77: onlyone build error
14:46 < daja77> which?
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14:46 < esden> re hi all
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14:47 < daja77> hi esden
14:48 < daja77> esden: did I get this right, ripclaw took over organisation for Linuxtag, and I have to mail some stuff to him?
14:48 < rolla> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root       107610 Jun 12 00:49 1-linux25.err
14:49 < esden> daja77: yes I know that he took it over ... I talked to him about it ...
14:50 < daja77> hmm ic
14:50 < esden> daja77: I do not know if he needs any data from you ... you best do with asking him
14:50 < daja77> sure :)
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14:56 < Auzain> hello all
14:57 < daja77> wb Auzain
14:58 < Auzain> daja77: is there somewhere a rescue iso in the archives?
14:58 < daja77> not that I know of, why?
14:58 < Auzain> i have problems with drock
14:59 < daja77> doesn't boot from cd?
14:59 < Auzain> doch
14:59 < Auzain> but after don't want compile anything
15:00 < daja77> which drock image you have?
15:00 < Auzain> the latest 2.0
15:01 < Auzain> the first problem was stubs.h not there
15:01 < daja77> *hmpf* which errors do you get?
15:01 < tcr> esden: Still here?
15:02 < Auzain> without stubs.h impossible to configure linux or ./script/Config
15:03 < Auzain> I install it 3 times: same problem, then I copy stubs.h from my other distro
15:04 < daja77> which package is that?
15:04 < Auzain> don't know, it's in /usr/include/gnu/stubs.h
15:05 < Auzain> it must be something for ncurses I suppose
15:05 < tcr> Auzain: What/Where/When/Why
15:05 < Auzain> tcr: ?
15:05 < tcr> The information you're giving are very fragmentic, I've no clue what you're talking about :)
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15:07 < Auzain> ok: I install drock, then rocklinux-src-2.0beta4 and want run ./script/Config
15:07 < Auzain> error: stubs.h no such file
15:08 < daja77> hehe google's first hit for stubs.h and package goes to rocklinux hp
15:08 < daja77> Auzain: wait I'll upload that package for you
15:09 < Auzain> there was only libc-version.h and lib-names.h in /usr/include/gnu
15:09 < daja77> mom
15:09 < tcr> daja77: the first google it goes somewhere else, here
15:10 < daja77> ??
15:11 < daja77> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=stubs.h+package
15:13 < Auzain> can it be a problem with locale settings
15:13 < daja77> *gna* /me downloading accessing that box via ssh sucks >_<
15:14 < daja77> afaik the nssdb package was broken some time ago, I'll give you mine and you'll be happy :)
15:14 < tcr> " Problems and Programmers is an educational software engineering card game. Featuring over 120 unique cards, it is intended to simulate the software development process from conception to completion."
15:15 < tcr> software development card game.. funny
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15:15 < tcr> https://www.problemsandprogrammers.com/problems.html
15:17 < daja77> Auzain: try https://lospalmos.homelinux.net/drock-2.0.0beta4/
15:17 < daja77> grab the gem file and install it
15:18 < Auzain> was heisst grab the gem file?
15:19 < daja77> download it
15:19 < Auzain> can't connect to this adress
15:19 < daja77> mom
15:20 < daja77> can you connect now?
15:22 < daja77> d#oh apache wasn't started, please retry
15:24 < daja77> it would be nice, if you can tell me when you've finished, that I can continue my downloads
15:26 < Auzain> i'm in
15:26 < daja77> okis
15:27 < daja77> download nssdb gem file
15:29 < Auzain> daja77: this will not be possible for today
15:29 < daja77> huh it is 44k only
15:29 < Auzain> not enoutgh time
15:29 < daja77> only the .gem file not the isos
15:30 < Auzain> o sorry
15:31 < Auzain> ok it's good
15:31 < daja77> if you have that file cp it to the machine and do a mine -i nssdb*gem ;)
15:31 < Mike1> Good day all.
15:31 < daja77> mojn Mike1
15:32 < daja77> *gnargl* tons of curl socket errors for kasc repository
15:34 < daja77> Downloading download/base/linux25/linux-2.5.70.tar.bz2 *yes*
15:34 < Auzain> so hot here
15:34 < daja77> here too
15:34 < daja77> Auzain: works now?
15:35 < Auzain> i'm at work here rocklinux is at home :-(
15:37 < Auzain> 35° pffffffff
15:38 < Mike1> 20° here :)
15:38 < Auzain> grrrr
15:38 < Auzain> Mikel: are you the i18n guru?
15:39 < Mike1> kindoff..
15:39 < Mike1> anything i can help you with?
15:40 < Auzain> are interest of a french translation of HACKING-HOWTO
15:40 < Auzain> are you?
15:41 < tcr> Sure
15:41 < Auzain> if I had some time this week-end...because I must translate it to understand all :]
15:41 < Mike1> Auzain: yes i am
15:41 < Mike1> Auzain: we are in need to people helping us to translate as much available docs as possible
15:42 < Mike1> would you like to give us a hand with fr docs?
15:42 < daja77> re, luser asked me about midori (damn we haven't that in rock)
15:42 < Auzain> have you germen docs, it will be easyer for me ?
15:43 < tcr> germen <- cool typo ;)
15:43 < Mike1> daja77: do you actually know what midori is?
15:43 < Auzain> tcr: deutch
15:43 < daja77> tcr will translate it for you ...
15:43 < tcr> I nix spreche deutsch
15:43 < Mike1> Auzain: nope, currently only enlish and spanish
15:43 < daja77> Mike1: yeah linus' distro for transmeta crusoe
15:43 < Auzain> ok will do it with enlish ;-)
15:44 < Mike1> tcr: don't you have anything better to do than to point out people's typos?
15:44 < Mike1> Auzain: excellent
15:44 < Auzain> Mickel: pas de quoi
15:44 < tcr> Auzain: I'd suggest it even so, I think it's a great chance to improve one's english
15:45 < daja77> Mike1: crusoe support for rock would be nice, no?
15:45 < Mike1> daja77: actually not linus' but transmeta's, its intended to be an embedded distribution build kit
15:45 < Auzain> tcr: improve one's english?
15:45 < tcr> Auzain: to make it better
15:45 < daja77> Mike1: build kit (sounds like rock for me :)))
15:45 < Auzain> it will be a long way...
15:46 < tcr> Mike1: Nah, the typo was just a bit funny to me
15:46 < tcr> that's why I picked it out... no critic intended
15:46 < daja77> tcr is a gerwoman *gg*
15:48 < tcr> :P c'm over here, daja77.. let's make a lot of cute gerbabies!
15:48 < daja77> *rofl* too bad for the luser, midori is not for him, cross-build of rock anyone
15:49 < daja77> hmm I could use standard rock, and go for crusoe's x86 emulation
15:49 < Mike1> daja77: kind off, give it a try sometime i like it.
15:50 < Auzain> orage, storm, gewitter in anmarch...
15:51 < daja77> well this guy will buy a laptop with crusoe, should I stop him doin so, or use this system to play around with it, when he shows up *vbeg*
15:52 < Mike1> let him get it
15:52 < Mike1> :)
15:52 < tcr> Auzain: but gewitter is têmpte (spelling is probably somewhat different), orage is Sturm in german :)
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15:53 < daja77> Mike1: *ggg* I knew you'd say that
15:53 < Auzain> und donner is kebab :-))
15:53 < tcr> Auzain: but the idiomatic phrase was correct :)
15:53 < daja77> Auzain: hehe
15:54 < Auzain> :-,
15:54 < Auzain> blitz, wir schalten ab...
15:54 < Auzain> besser so
15:54 < daja77> cu Auzain
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15:57 < daja77> strange what lusers want to use linux today ...
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16:04 < tcr> daja77: That's the result of advertising of years..
16:05 < rolla> now 2 failuires
16:07 < daja77> startet realtime target build btw
16:07 < daja77> started even
16:08 < rolla> :)
16:09 < daja77> in saxony nobody can't distinguish t and d anyway :)
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16:09 < rolla> ?
16:09 < mnemoc> hi all
16:09 < rolla> re
16:09 < tcr> daja77: hehe, yeah ;)
16:10 < daja77> every t is spoken as a d :)
16:10 < tcr> rolla: a german dialect
16:10 < rolla> ach so
16:10 < daja77> hi mnemoc
16:10 < tcr> daja77: Wadde hadde du'n da ;)
16:11 < mnemoc> o_O
16:11 < daja77> tcr: nah this isn't saxonian :)
16:11 < daja77> mnemoc: don't worry
16:12 < tcr> mnemoc is terrified by the plenty of 'd's?
16:13 < tcr> I just point to some latin verse: Oh Tite tute Tate tibi tanta tyranne tulisti
16:13 < mnemoc> yeap....
16:13 < daja77> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda
16:13 < daja77> or so
16:15 < tcr> got training, bbl
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16:15 < mnemoc> Deutsch is pretty ugly to 'romance' (latin derived) speakers, but with all those 'd's it's incomprehensible
16:18 < daja77> :)
16:20 < mnemoc> how can i see 'next' file in a less *?
16:22 < tfing> :n
16:22 < tfing> and h for help btw
16:22 < daja77> hey tfing :)
16:23 < daja77> I guess my build-script addons are a bit buggy, hope they'll work anyway
16:23 < mnemoc> tfing: thanks
16:24 < mnemoc> i tryed ? and :h but not h :)
16:24 < tfing> hi daja77
16:26 < mnemoc> anybody have used boehms' gc with gcc2.95?
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16:27 < daja77> hey Auzain, lightening over?
16:28 < Auzain> yes, more noice at something else...
16:28 < daja77> brb
16:40 < mnemoc> damn linux24, it's very broken with gcc33 :(
16:40 < Mike1> mnemoc: so?
16:40 < Mike1> we are using gcc3.2 as default yet anyways.
16:41 < Mike1> and it builds fine
16:41 * Mike1 is very close to have a _perfect_ build of the minimal target
16:41 < mnemoc> gcc33 is much faster that 33 in my crappy box
16:41 < mnemoc> than 32
16:42 < Mike1> mnemoc: well i am not sure it is a good idea to go for 33
16:42 < Mike1> we have not made much debugging for packages to work with it
16:42 < Mike1> most packages are likely to brake somewhere i guess
16:42 < mnemoc> me neither but spending 5 hours builing the kernel is better tahn 6 :D
16:42 < Mike1> maybe not most, but several
16:43 < mnemoc> rc4 compiled perfectly with 3.3 and i reach stage 5 almost without problems
16:43 < Mike1> m..
16:43 < Mike1> well i don't know i have not run a build with it yet
16:45 < rolla> re
16:45 < rolla> Mike1: I am close to the perfect build as well
16:45 < Mike1> welcome back rolla
16:45 < Mike1> rolla: target?
16:45 < rolla> desktop
16:45 < Mike1> rolla: thats good.
16:45 < Mike1> == 08:43:26 =[9]=> Building base/python [2.2.2 2.0.0-beta4].
16:46 < Mike1> so far i am on stage 9 here and nothing has failed
16:47 < rolla> Mike1: only 2.5 kernel is broken in mine
16:47 < rolla> == 09:50:33 =[5]=> Building base/binutils [2.14.90.0.4 2.0.0-beta4].
16:48 < Mike1> rolla: i know, i removed 2.5 from mine :)
16:48 < rolla> :)
16:53 < daja77> re
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16:59 < rolla> == 09:59:37 =[5]=> Building base/gcc3 [3.2.3 2.0.0-beta4].
17:00 < Mike1> == 08:56:04 =[9]=> Building base/gsl [1.3 2.0.0-beta4]. :))
17:03 < mnemoc> Mike1: what happend with the shell you offered a month ago? *g*
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17:04 < Ge0rG> good morning
17:04 < Mike1> mnemoc: it will be available soon do not worry
17:05 < mnemoc> :D
17:05 < Mike1> mnemoc: i have been busy taking care of several personal issues
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17:05 < mnemoc> of course, all of us have a virtual life out there
17:07 < Mike1> mnemoc: ack.
17:09 < blindcoder> life? what's that?
17:10 < Mike1> blindcoder: nice to see you here my friend.
17:10 < _Caspar_> rolla, mike1: no shared files with postfix ?
17:10 < blindcoder> hi all
17:10 < mnemoc> the rendered world you can see with those eyes
17:10 < Mike1> _Caspar_: i don't use postfix, so honestly i can't tell
17:10 < ringo78> live as in the opposite of death :)
17:11 < ringo78> hi all btw
17:11 < Mike1> ringo78 wasn't life = death
17:11 < _Caspar_> mike1: disabled compiling with drock too ?
17:11 < Mike1> _Caspar_: i don't run desktop target builds ... :)
17:11 < blindcoder> there is no life before death
17:11 < _Caspar_> ah
17:11 < ringo78> Mike1: That was not what I was learning at bioligy :)
17:11 < Mike1> _Caspar_: i am running minimal target and also work more on commercial targets that i am developing
17:12 < Mike1> ringo78 biology = sex ?
17:12 < _Caspar_> mike1: me too
17:12 < Mike1> _Caspar_: nice, what are they intended to?
17:12 < ringo78> Mike1: Biology is more then procrecration (but important)
17:13 < Mike1> ringo78 ah good
17:13 < Mike1> good my updates were applied.
17:14 < _Caspar_> mike1: at the moment a server target for my webservers and a firewall target
17:14 < blindcoder> ringo78: maybe it's more, but all work and no play != life
17:14 < Mike1> _Caspar_: sounds ok :)
17:15 < ringo78> blindcoder: right
17:15 * blindcoder goes back to his non-life
17:15 < blindcoder> bye
17:16 < ringo78> blindcoder: bye
17:16 < Mike1> oyasumi nasai blindcoder
17:17 < esden> hi ho everyone
17:17 * -> esden back once again
17:17 < esden> may god bless you all ;-)
17:17 < Mike1> welcome back once again :)
17:17 < Mike1> esden: may the lord bless you too my friend.
17:17 < esden> *G*
17:19 < esden> hmm ... I missed blindcoder >_<
17:19 < esden> argl
17:20 < Mike1> esden: no worries, he will come back sometime.
17:21 < esden> yes sure ...
17:26 * daja77 dumbass today *gna*
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17:29 < tsa> hi all
17:29 < Mike1> hi Sebastian.
17:29 < daja77> hi tsa
17:32 < daja77> strange things happening here
17:37 < tsa> which ones?
17:38 < daja77> Build-Scripts trying to add both rtai patches to linux24* at once :(
17:39 < daja77> should be impossible (excluding if .. fi statements) or is this a new feature I should know of?
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17:39 < n00kie> moin
17:39 < daja77> hi n00kie
17:39 < n00kie> hola daja77
17:39 < n00kie> How are you?
17:39 < daja77> pissed, thx
17:40 < n00kie> why pissed?
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18:07 < n00kie_> Every day a new revision ...
18:08 < daja77> hehe yes
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18:12 < JTBurn> hiho
18:12 < rolla> re JTBurn
18:13 < JTBurn> hi rolla, how are you ?
18:16 < rolla> JTBurn: crappy
18:16 < rolla> slow box
18:17 < JTBurn> oh not good. waht did you mean with 'low box' ?
18:21 < JTBurn> did anyone know an url where i can find a tcl-script for news messages ? e.g. a newsscript
18:22 < daja77> *gna* rezzo schlauch is opening linuxtag, we are doomed
18:24 < rolla> JTBurn: slow
18:25 * daja77 off now, cu
18:25 < JTBurn> rolla : oh yes, now i understand *g*
18:25 < JTBurn> ive the same problem :)
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18:47 < Robin_Root> Hi!
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19:02 < Pita> hello all of u ?
19:02 < Pita> is there someone to give me a hand installing rock linux >?
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19:13 < Pita> need help
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19:19 < rolla> == 12:12:13 =[5]=> Building base/gsl [1.3 2.0.0-beta4].
19:21 < snyke> hey blindcoder
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19:21 < rolla> Pita: I am here what do you need help with?
19:21 < Pita> thanks
19:22 < Pita> I using a friend to guide me but is not online and I cannot wait to start
19:22 < Pita> so far I have rocklinux 1.4.0
19:22 < Pita> i made three partitions on my disk being on the swap partition
19:22 < Pita> I think no I can start to install but how do I do that ?
19:23 < Pita>  being one the swap partition
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19:24 < rolla> did you format the paratitions?
19:25 < Pita> yep
19:25 < rolla> did you mount them?
19:26 < Pita> no
19:26 < Pita> how do I do that ?
19:26 < rolla> exmaple
19:26 < Pita> by the way I am really a newby
19:26 < rolla> mount /dev/disc0/part1 /trg
19:26 < rolla> you said you have 2 partitions?
19:26 < Pita> yes
19:26 < rolla> on swap
19:26 < Pita> my colleg told me to make two
19:26 < rolla> one root
19:26 < rolla> that is fine
19:27 < Pita> two partitions plus the swap partition
19:27 < rolla> and you did a mkfs on on of them?
19:27 < Pita> mkfs ?
19:27 < rolla> ja
19:27 < Pita> yes
19:27 < Pita> i did that for two makong them linux 83
19:27 < rolla> okay what was the paratitions
19:28 < Pita> ~and then I mad for the third making it linux 82
19:28 < rolla> so you have 3 ?
19:28 < Pita> yes including the one for the swap
19:28 < rolla> okay let just start from the top
19:28 < Pita> thanks for your patience
19:28 < rolla> do a ls /dev/disc*
19:29 < Pita> can u explain whats that for ?
19:29 < rolla> I want to make sure how to tell you to format you discs right and then mount them
19:30 < Pita> let me do it
19:30 < Pita> just a sec
19:35 < blindcoder> hi all
19:35 < rolla> re blindy
19:36 * blindcoder watching some anime
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19:40 < Pita> with that command i get  "no such file or directory"
19:41 < rolla> :)
19:41 < Pita> ive chacked and I ve the 3 partitions like I ve told u
19:41 < rolla> do you have a /dev/discs dir ?
19:41 < Pita> checked
19:42 < Pita> yes
19:42 < rolla> and a disc0 inside of that?
19:42 < Pita> how do I check that ?
19:42 < rolla> ls
19:42 < rolla> cd /dev/discs
19:42 < rolla> then a ls
19:43 < Pita> ive disck0 and disc1
19:43 < Pita> ive two HD in the machine
19:43 < rolla> you should you have 2 hard drives?
19:43 < rolla> okay
19:44 < rolla> on which disc is the swap?
19:44 < Pita> now what disc0
19:44 < Pita> on disc0
19:44 < rolla> Pita: when you did the fdisk do you remember which paratition you made the swap? on disc0
19:45 < rolla> if you cd /dev/discs/disc0
19:45 < rolla> and do a ls
19:46 < rolla> you will see something like this disc  part1  part2  part3
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19:46 < Pita> it was part 3
19:46 < rolla> okay
19:46 < rolla> do "mkswap /dev/discs/disc0/part3
19:46 < rolla> and then swapon /dev/discs/disc0/part3
19:46 < Pita> sec
19:48 < Pita> done
19:58 < Pita> rolla still there ?
20:02 < rolla> yes
20:02 < rolla> did you make part1 / ?
20:02 < rolla> how do you want to split the 2
20:03 < rxr> re
20:03 < rolla> re rxr
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20:04 < rxr> hi rolla
20:05 < Pita> oki
20:05 < Pita> i ve part1 with 50 MB and part2 with 500MB
20:06 < rolla> what kind of size do you have on your second disc?
20:06 < Pita> its 1.5 Gigas but I would prefer to leave it
20:07 < rolla> okay
20:07 < rolla> you will have to be careful about what you load to make sure you have space :)
20:08 < rolla> do a mkfs /dev/discs/disc0/part1
20:08 < rolla> and then repeat for part2
20:09 < Pita> sec
20:10 < Pita> done
20:11 < rolla> okay
20:11 < rolla> mount /dev/discs/part2 /trg
20:11 < rolla> == 13:09:31 =[5]=> Building base/bdb40 [4.0.14 2.0.0-beta4].
20:12 < Pita> is that for me rolla ?
20:15 < rolla> nope :0
20:15 < rolla> just the mount
20:17 < Pita> done
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20:20 < SMP> ahhh rxr
20:21 < rolla> Pita: now mkdir /trg/tmp
20:22 < rolla> then mount /dev/discs/part1 /trg/tmp
20:22 < rolla> then mount /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /src
20:22 < rolla> the type 'Install"
20:23 < rolla> and you should be off
20:23 < rolla> I must go work calls
20:24 < Pita> thanks a lot man
20:24 < rolla> np
20:35 < Pita> somebody there to help me ?
20:36 < Pita> do I have to run the install in any specific dir ?
20:39 < Pita> help me pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
20:47 < Pita> come guys give me a hand here
20:48 < rolla> Pita: what is your question
20:49 < Pita> I type install and it says It cannot find the command
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20:54 < rxr> Pita: what are trying to do =
20:54 < Pita> i am trying to install linux
20:54 < Pita> i already done all befor moving to the install
20:54 < Pita> but when I type install it says that It cannot find the command
20:55 < rolla> instal with a capital I
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20:55 < Pita> let me try
20:56 < Pita> oki
20:56 < Pita> its running
20:56 < Pita> now I am at the shell
20:56 < Pita> should I press retunr ?
20:56 < Pita> return ?
21:00 < dreamind> HI :)
21:02 < Pita> oki its installing
21:02 < Pita> thanks a lot rolla
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21:05 < rxr> Pita: which linux do you install ?
21:05 < rolla> rxr 1.4 ;)
21:06 < rxr> oh my - why such an old ROCK version ?
21:06 < Pita> that was tricky
21:06 < rolla> cause that is the iso he has
21:06 < Pita> the capital I
21:06 < rolla> yeah
21:06 < rxr> such an old beast *wimmer*
21:06 < Pita> and the guide from the website is not for newbies
21:07 < rolla> very true
21:07 < Pita> rxr is it a bad version ?
21:08 < Pita> what do u mean by wimmer ?
21:08 < rolla> Pita: he mean winner
21:08 * SMP still uses it, but not for new installs
21:08 < SMP> but /me knows what he is doing
21:09 < Pita> should I move to the 1.6.0 ?
21:10 < rxr> Pita: nope to 2.0 ...
21:10 < Pita> but isnt that on bet yet ?
21:10 < Pita> and where do I get that
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21:10 < Pita> dont remeber seeing that on the site
21:10 < rxr> on the left menu - "stable tree" ...
21:10 < rxr> there is "Source Trees"
21:11 < rxr> and only "ROCK Linux 2.0" is in that list
21:11 < Pita> i ve seen it
21:11 < rxr> in the News "ROCK Linux 2.0.0-beta4" announces - how did you missed this ?
21:12 < Pita> in did
21:13 < Pita> but beta 4 its only 1.5 megas in size ????
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21:14 < rolla> == 14:17:28 =[5]=> Building base/ncftp [3.1.5 2.0.0-beta4].
21:14 < Pita> i guess i am really new to this
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21:14 < rolla> Pita: that is the base to pull down and build a whole iso out of it
21:14 < Pita> and its true this gives lots of work
21:15 < rolla> yes
21:15 < rolla> lots
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21:16 < Pita> do I really need 3 partitions ?
21:16 < Pita> i ve not enough space
21:17 < rolla> Pita: nope
21:17 < rolla> 2
21:17 < rolla> one swap
21:17 < rolla> one fs
21:17 < Pita> how big should be the swap ?
21:17 < Pita> for 64 MB of mem ?
21:17 < rolla> how much ram do you have ?
21:17 < rolla> I would make it 128M
21:18 < Pita> so I should restart the all procedure again and use only two partitions
21:18 < Pita> so what about the size of beta 4 ?
21:18 < rolla> you don't have enought space to build beta4 on that box
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21:22 < rolla> == 14:27:04 =[5]=> Building base/disktype [5 2.0.0-beta4].
21:25 < Pita> oki
21:25 < Pita> so between 1.4.0 and 1.6.0 witch do I choose ?
21:25 < Pita> I ve both
21:25 < rolla> 1.6
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21:25 < Mike1> re
21:26 < rolla> re Mike1
21:26 < Pita> oki
21:26 < Pita> i will go overr all the process again
21:26 < Mike1> rolla: just as i prediected _perfect_ build.
21:26 < Pita> thanks a lot rolla and all the others
21:26 < Mike1> predicted even.
21:29 < rolla> np
21:29 < Pita> when I start with 1.6 and them load linux it just restarts the machine ????
21:29 < rolla> ?
21:30 < rolla> == 14:33:31 =[5]=> Building base/pine [4.53 2.0.0-beta4].
21:30 < Mike1> hehe :)
21:31 < Pita> i satrt with the cd and them Ive the boot prompt
21:31 < Pita> i can choose between linux and memtest
21:31 < rolla> and you press enter
21:31 < Pita> ~is I type linux it starts loading and them it just reboots the machine
21:31 < rolla> don't type just press enter
21:32 < Pita> it say bios data check and them it just reboots
21:32 < Pita> even if I just press enter
21:32 < rolla> hmmm very ood
21:32 < rolla> I thought your machine could not boot cd's?
21:36 < Pita> it does
21:36 < Pita> i found that later
21:36 < Pita> I though it couldnt cause it to old but it can
21:37 < rolla> hmmm
21:37 < rolla> you have pre3 cd?
21:38 < rolla> what is the full name of the iso?
21:38 < Pita> ye~
21:38 < Pita> yes
21:38 < SMP> just forget about 1.6
21:38 < Pita> so it seams
21:38 < Pita> i will go back to 1.4
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21:39 < SMP> and _especially_ forget about 1.4
21:39 < Pita> so what should I use ?
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21:41 < SMP> a 2.0.0-beta
21:41 < Pita> the machine doesnt take that
21:41 < Pita> its a PI at 166 with 64 MB
21:41 < SMP> gah
21:41 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M279P024.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
21:41 < SMP> have you used Linux beforeß
21:41 < SMP> ?
21:42 < Pita> nope
21:42 < Pita> I am the worst newby arround
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21:44 < SMP> then there is not so much we can do for you at the moment. there will be a generic x86 build when 2.0.0 will be released, but for now 1.4.0 is too old to make you happy and 1.6.0 is a dead end
21:45 < Pita> anyway I will try 1.4
21:45 < Pita> i really got curious now
21:45 < Pita> and I want to gain experience before I move to my big machine
21:45 < Pita> amd 2200xp 512 MB
21:46 < SMP> well, it's old but stable
21:46 < SMP> I doubt this will give you the experience you expect and need
21:47 < Pita> so is there any linux that I can run in my old machine ?
21:48 < SMP> I guess so
21:49 < Mike1> hi SMP
21:51 < SMP> hey Mike
21:56 < rolla> == 15:00:09 =[5]=> Building base/libpcap [0.7.2 2.0.0-beta4].
22:00 < netrunner> hmm ... /me thinks about borrowing his build machine for linuxtag. would that be needed? or does someone bring one?
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22:01 < rolla> == 15:03:26 =[5]=> Building base/gnupg [1.2.2 2.0.0-beta4].
22:03 < rolla> == 15:07:26 =[5]=> Building rene/gpgme [0.4.0 2.0.0-beta4].
22:04 -!- showGUN [~showgun@3e44a102.adsl.enternet.hu] has joined #rocklinux
22:04 < showGUN> hi all
22:04 < showGUN> can anyone tell me where are /etc/conf/* included?
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22:08 < SMP> showGUN: in the respective packages
22:10 < showGUN> and what about login.defs it is a funny file in my /etc because i can edit it without any effect
22:11 < SMP> please read the login.defs manpage
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22:28 < rolla> == 15:20:14 =[5]=> Building x11/xfree86 [4.3.99.5 2.0.0-beta4].
22:32 < rxr> is it really necessary to post soo many build status lines ?
22:33 < rolla> rxr yes
22:33 < rxr> wow
22:33 < rolla> there is nothing else going on here :)
22:33 < Mike1> rxr: where is the problem with it?
22:33 < rolla> but if wish I stop then I will
22:42 < rxr> not such a big problem - just increased noise ...
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23:17 < daja77> re
23:24 < daja77> hehe ripclaw phoned sco
23:25 < rolla> he did?
23:25 < daja77> yeah he wrote a mail about this on the list :)
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23:26 < daja77> hey cap
23:26 < daja77> oh quit sorry
23:27 < Freak> =)
23:27 < daja77> damn I forgot the [PATCH] on my mail, should I resend it?
23:29 < n00kie> daja77: For the mutella package?
23:29 < daja77> yes *hit me with a stick*
23:30 < n00kie> Hmm
23:30 < n00kie> I would wait till next day
23:31 < daja77> ok half an hour then ...
23:32 < n00kie> hehe :-))
23:32 < n00kie> Otherwise you can ask rene in a querry...
23:33 < daja77> nah got on his nerves enough :))
23:34 < n00kie> Then resend :)
23:34 < daja77> n00kie: need it now?
23:36 < n00kie> I don't use filesharing tools
23:37 < daja77> cos your are getting disconnected every five minutes? >:->
23:38 < n00kie> :/
23:38 < n00kie> nope
23:38 < n00kie> It's mainly, because I've a traffic flat
23:38 < n00kie> Just 4.5Gigs a month
23:39 < daja77> ic meeting too many stupid people in real life makes me evil
23:41 < n00kie> Can't join #real-life. - You're banned. ;)
23:41 < daja77> :P
23:43 < daja77> that was not my day, so goin to bed might be a good idea
23:43 < n00kie> nah
23:43 < n00kie> go in 15 minutes
23:43 < daja77> ?
23:44 < n00kie> Need someone to talk.
23:44 < daja77> I am alone with you here *crying*
23:45 < n00kie> Yeah
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23:45 < n00kie> I'm pure evilness.
23:45 < daja77> hehe not really
23:46 < n00kie> :P
23:49 * daja77 hides behind n00kie 
23:50 < n00kie> You aren't brave enough? ;-)
23:50 < daja77> not, yeah fuckin right, not today
23:51 * netrunner rofls reading the lastlog :)
23:52 < netrunner> you guys seem really bored.
23:52 < daja77> netrunner: entertain us!
23:52 < n00kie> yep
23:52 < n00kie> entertain us!
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23:52 * n00kie ducks
23:56 < n00kie> Well
23:56 < n00kie> I go to bed ;)
23:56 < n00kie> Sleep well, daja77, netrunner
23:56 < daja77> n8 n00kie
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23:56 < daja77> hey debain is on the chan :)
23:56 < daja77> debian even
23:57 * daja77 likes that typo somehow ,,,
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