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--- Log opened Fri Jun 13 00:00:37 2003 --- Day changed Fri Jun 13 2003 00:02 < netrunner> n8 nookie 00:02 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090994B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:03 < netrunner> wow, I just created my first patch :) 00:03 < daja77> congrats 00:06 < netrunner> hm ... i have already a list of packages I wish to contribute. should I open my own repos? 00:08 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090A295.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:09 < daja77> gn8 you all 00:10 < netrunner> n8 daja77 00:13 < Mike1> n8 00:29 < rxr> <IMG SRC="../drock.jpg" WIDTH="95" HEIGHT="95" HSPACE="10" 00:29 < rxr> oops 01:25 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: blindcoder 01:28 -!- Netsplit over, joins: blindcoder 02:01 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: mnemoc 02:01 -!- Netsplit over, joins: mnemoc 02:10 < rxr> noone here ? 02:10 * SMP is 02:10 * tfing is also 02:27 < SMP> gah .. 02:27 < SMP> rxr: can you give me at least the glibc.gem from the beta4 x86 build - p-uh-leaze ;) 02:28 < SMP> beta3 can't compile anything 02:28 < rxr> a mix of the latest ones is in rock-linux/x86/pkgs ... 02:28 < rxr> for sparc and ppc applies the same - but they are older ... 02:28 < SMP> (maybe only <gnu/stubs.h> would be enough) 02:30 < SMP> thanks 02:31 * SMP takes all of rxr's bandwidth 02:31 < SMP> ;> 02:31 < rxr> SMP: no problem. The line is used to this ... 02:41 < rxr> and I currently do not need the bandwidth anyway - I'm writing ROCK Linux install documentation for PPC ... 03:17 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.org/projects/drock/install/drock-install-20-powerpc.html 03:17 < rxr> if someone want to make some corrections (but I'm still writing on it ...) 03:19 * SMP looks into /usr/lib and /usr/libexec and cries ... 03:24 < rxr> hm - what are those lib*.{a,so} files diong there ... :-( 03:28 < SMP> yeah - and lynx.cfg .. 03:28 < rxr> do you send patches ? 03:28 < SMP> don't count on it at the moment 03:29 < SMP> I'll put it on my TODO, but it's already long 03:30 < SMP> *WOW* 03:30 < rxr> hm ? 03:31 < SMP> in a kde app, an input field for a filename that automatically offers completions 03:32 < rxr> this is the case for all file dialogs since KDE 3.0 (IIRC) what is so astonishing? 03:32 < rxr> you even have this in the location (URL) thing in Konqueror ... 03:34 < SMP> I never used a kde app other that kmail for years 03:34 < rxr> oh - kmail is one of the KDE applications I do not like that much ... ;-) 03:35 < SMP> I use it just for testing IMAP with a gui client 03:35 < rxr> and, did it worked ? 03:35 < SMP> yes, kmail is quite a sane program 03:45 < SMP> hah, stupid 03:47 < SMP> I imported my UTF-8 .mutt/aliases into kaddressbook (it worked fine, suprise), but when I send a mail to a person with a Cyrillic name, it shows up as garbage in kmail 03:48 < rxr> hm ... 03:49 < SMP> using i18n makes all programs break, if I want ;-> 03:50 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Real Life is just an illusion caused by IRC deprivation") 03:51 < rxr> sch*****e - merke geade das mitten beim Linuxtag (den Freitag) ein Freund Heiratet ... 03:52 < rxr> warum liegt dier LinuxTag und der CCC immer so besch***den ... 03:52 * rxr grummeling ... 03:57 < SMP> it works when I drag the address from kaddressbook into kmail, but not when I use "Datei / Versenden ..." 03:57 < SMP> (in kaddressbook) 03:57 < SMP> and the kaddressbook import cannot remove <> from around email addresses ;-( 03:57 < rxr> SMP: if it is an actual KDE version report the bug ... ;-) 03:58 < SMP> the whole layout of the import dialog is crap ... it's hard to use without experimentation 03:59 < rxr> yups 03:59 < SMP> why do they write millons of LOC and then things start breaking after 3 minutes of trying to do something useful? 04:01 < SMP> btw. prelink and mine interaction in ROCK is currently very unsatisfying 04:02 < SMP> there should be easy support for (un)prelinking single packages 04:03 < SMP> and /etc/cron.d/20-prelink should not do anything without the admin setting a flag 04:03 < rxr> does prelink work for you? The last time I tried it only crashed 04:04 < SMP> yes, as far as I can see, I works fine. doesn't crash 04:04 < rxr> the this damn red hat person is not (Jakub?) was not respoinding to my mails asking where the most recent versions are kept ... 04:04 < rxr> the ROCK 2.0.0-betaXYZ build ? 04:04 < rxr> or seom selfmade ? 04:05 < SMP> no, your beta3 from beginning of May 04:05 < rxr> interesting ... 04:06 < SMP> libqt-mt cannot be prelinked because it is not a PIC object. can this be changed? 04:06 < rxr> wc drock/install/drock-install-20-powerpc.templ 04:06 < rxr> 333 1592 10912 04:06 < rxr> buah 04:06 < rxr> this would make three pages for a Linux Magazin article ;-)! 04:07 < SMP> libqt-mt is really a good candidate for prelinking ;) 04:07 < rxr> hm - if I should try this on the iBook ...# 04:07 < SMP> try what? 04:08 < rxr> prelinking ... 04:08 < SMP> I thought it was x86 only? 04:08 < rxr> I guess I will burn ... 04:08 < rxr> nope - but most other plaform are not really tested I guess ... 04:22 < SMP> hmmm 04:22 < SMP> libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.2/libstdc++.la' 04:23 < SMP> I installed the glibc and this started. any idea? 04:25 < rxr> no 04:26 < SMP> of course it exists as .../3.2.3/libstdc++.la 04:28 < SMP> hmm, and cups does not seem to support the 'smb network' protocol :( 04:32 < rxr> I never had Windows in the last years to test. the only contact with Windows is ath pace.de where they pay much money for waiting in front of MVC++ ... ,-) 04:33 < SMP> well, cups _does_ support it, it just does not seem to be enabled in the ROCK build 04:33 < rxr> I already understood this part ... 04:34 < SMP> ;p 04:53 < SMP> hah, problem solved 04:55 < SMP> cups needs a ln -s `which smbspool` /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb 04:56 < SMP> do we test for smbspool in cups.conf cups_pm or do it in a STONE mod_cups? 04:58 < SMP> (and this really should be /usr/libexec/cups/ ...) 05:00 < mnemoc> you could add pkg_samba_prefix to parse-config, and ln -sf $pkg_samba_prefix/smbspool %libdir/backend/smb in cups' .conf 05:05 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@www.digital-dictators.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:05 < holyolli> moin 05:05 < esden> moin 05:05 < holyolli> hi esden 06:31 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@www.digital-dictators.de] has quit ("ircII EPIC4-1.0.1 -- Are we there yet?") 06:52 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M260P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 06:53 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M260P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Client Quit) 06:56 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M268P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:20 -!- aszlig_ [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has quit (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 07:25 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has joined #rocklinux 08:37 < netrunner> moin 08:37 * netrunner throws little balls of paper at esden 08:43 -!- ringo78 [~ringo@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has quit ("leaving") 08:44 < esden> netrunner: :P /me throws back ... 08:44 -!- ringo78_ [~dunno@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has quit ("leaving") 08:44 < netrunner> esden: I sent my first patch to some guy tonight *g* 08:45 < esden> o_O ... which guy? 08:45 < esden> what patch? 08:46 < netrunner> esden: imgv, an image viewer. python. I plan to include it in rock (and several other :) 08:46 < netrunner> esden: but I still do not know how, shall I just open a new repos, or give them to someone else 08:48 < esden> open a new repos ... or give it to someone else ... as you wihish ... if you plan to have more packets then it is for sure better you open a new repos 08:48 < netrunner> esden: but then I am responsible for them ... work ... :) 08:51 < esden> but finding someone that will care for _your_ packages will be difficult I think ... 08:53 < netrunner> *g* no, I wanted to contribute anyway, so I open a new. (currently fighting with svn on my lap, that damn rh will go _soon_) 08:58 < esden> hehe ... but to get svn running is always a "slight" problem 09:10 -!- Auzain [~Auzain@ANancy-103-1-4-166.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 09:10 < Auzain> good morning 09:11 < Auzain> daja77: always no stubs.h on my rocklinux... 09:13 < Auzain> there must be a problem with glibc in drock 2.0 beta 09:34 < esden> hi Auzain 09:35 < esden> weasel@localhost:~$ find /usr/include/ -name stubs.h 09:35 < esden> /usr/include/gnu/stubs.h 09:35 < esden> I have it ... 09:35 < esden> so it seems that there is something broken on your system and not in rock ... 09:36 < Auzain> I only install drock... 09:36 < Auzain> and reboot 09:37 < Auzain> nothing else, no options, niet, 4 times now 09:37 < esden> hmm ... I installed the generic build and everything works ... 09:38 < Auzain> is generic build the same as drock? 09:38 < Auzain> where can I find it? 09:38 < esden> hmm ... they are bit different but not much ... 09:39 < Auzain> one difference is enought 09:39 < esden> and ... there is no drock ... there is only a desktop target in rocklinux 09:39 < esden> ofyi 09:39 < esden> you can find it in rocklinux .. ;-) 09:39 < Auzain> https://drocklinux.dyndns.org/ftp/drock/unstable/2.0.0-beta/ 09:40 < esden> no that is rocklinux ... only the url is so confusing 09:40 < esden> it is the future stable tree of rocklinux ... 09:41 < Auzain> I'm lost in space 09:41 < esden> and what you find there ... it is the compiled desktop rocklinux target ... 09:41 < netrunner> drock is missing some servers, like wuftpd, bind, sendmail but has many games instead 09:42 < Auzain> but your generic target is not compiled? now I can't compile some target 09:43 < Auzain> I don't find any target 09:43 < esden> Auzain: /topic 09:43 < netrunner> Auzain: you can read the files in https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/target/ to see which packages are included in the respective target. 09:45 < Auzain> ok, but how can I build a target now? I must have a working system befor... 09:46 < netrunner> Auzain: checkout the source, run scripts/Config, run scripts/Download -required, run scripts/Build-Target 09:47 < Auzain> I do that, it doesn't work 09:47 < netrunner> Auzain: well, youre to fast, you know . 09:47 < Auzain> to run scripts/Config I must have stubs.h 09:48 < Auzain> so I copy it for a other distro 09:49 < esden> you are using the iso from the site you told me? 09:49 < netrunner> Auzain: beta means 'some things do not work' 09:49 < Auzain> yes 09:49 < esden> if yes then it is terribly old ... we are already at beta4 ... 09:49 < Auzain> netrunner: I know 09:49 < Auzain> and where is it ? 09:50 < esden> Auzain: do ./scripts/Build-Pkg glibc ... then the headers should be fixed ;-) 09:50 < netrunner> Auzain: build glibc again yourself, then try again. 09:50 < netrunner> esden :P 09:50 < Auzain> netrunner: someone must test and finds bugs, no? 09:50 < esden> netrunner: :-* 09:50 < netrunner> Auzain: yes. but the one is supposed to fix them, too 09:51 < Auzain> netrunner: 8-] 09:51 < esden> Auzain: yes ... but I think that it as already fixed ... and your problem is only there because you are using an outdated build ... 09:52 < Auzain> I don't find an other 09:54 < esden> Auzain: try this ... it should be ok as jumpstart ... : https://iso.rocklinux.de/?menu=18 09:57 < esden> you will have to update some packets with scripts/Build-Pkg but after that you have a system on which you will be able to compile an iso you like ;-) 09:59 < Auzain> every I look, all iso are from 5/5/2003 10:01 < esden> yes the desktop iso ... 10:01 * -> esden off -> hunting 10:02 < Auzain> I think daja77 have a new version, but he keep it for him ;-) 10:03 < blindcoder> moin 10:03 < Auzain> moinmoin 10:04 < blindcoder> finally I got through the new proxy >_< 10:04 < blindcoder> took me bout 2 hours 10:06 * netrunner off -> getting a cooler case for his mp 10:35 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958F092.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:35 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FA6D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: blindcod1r!blindcoder@pD958F092.dip.t-dialin.net))) 10:35 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 10:55 -!- Auzain [~Auzain@ANancy-103-1-4-166.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ("Client Exiting") 11:13 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs2.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 11:24 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs2.xs4all.nl] has quit ("leaving") 11:27 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs2.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 11:56 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: netrunner, kasc, Mike1 11:57 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M260P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 11:57 -!- Netsplit over, joins: kasc, Mike1, netrunner 11:57 < n00kie> Hola 12:17 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs2.xs4all.nl] has quit ("Changing server") 12:18 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs2.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 12:29 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M260P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("[BX] Its not TV. 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I can wait 16:11 < daja77> when rxr gets his hds back from ibm :-) 16:12 < Auzain> ? 16:13 < Auzain> then I continue with my old distro 16:13 < blindcoder> esden: work 16:13 < daja77> which old distro? 16:13 < Auzain> sourcemage 16:15 -!- parabull [~parabull@212.152.174.162] has joined #rocklinux 16:15 < daja77> sourcemage, never heard of it 16:16 < daja77> Auzain: try the glibc package first 16:19 < Auzain> daja77: where can I find it? 16:19 < daja77> https://lospalmos.homelinux.net/drock-2.0.0beta/ :) 16:19 < daja77> https://lospalmos.homelinux.net/drock-2.0.0beta4/ even 16:19 < daja77> d'oh 16:20 -!- mnemoc [~mnemoc@200.75.27.67] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:22 < Auzain> daja77: 4% 16:22 < Auzain> very slow... 16:23 < daja77> heh I have only isdn connection here, what do you expect 16:23 < Auzain> DSL 16:23 * daja77 kicks Auzain 16:24 < Auzain> at home I have only 56Kb 16:24 < daja77> haha 16:24 < daja77> :) 16:24 < Auzain> :-(( 16:25 < Auzain> if it doesn't work after this, it lets me more time to translate the doc... 16:25 < daja77> hehe 16:25 < Auzain> sourcemage is a fork of sorcerer like lunar 16:25 -!- _Caspar_ [~steven261@M105P020.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has left #rocklinux () 16:26 < Auzain> they have good work but the scripts and dependencies are not on top 16:26 < daja77> well all you need is a devfs enabled kernel on your distro to build rock 16:27 < Auzain> I had a look on yours : better 16:28 < daja77> ?? 16:28 < Auzain> sourcemage have /dev and /devices and this doesn't help 16:28 < daja77> ahem devfs is a kernel feature which has to be compiled in ... 16:30 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:51 -!- A-Tui [~eof@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 16:52 < Auzain> daja77: 100% thank you 16:52 < A-Tui> hi 16:53 < daja77> hey A-Tui 16:53 < daja77> Auzain: np 16:53 < A-Tui> hey hola daja77, how are you? 16:53 < daja77> fine, yesterday was my bad day :)) 16:53 < A-Tui> mmm and why? 16:54 < daja77> lots of idiots buggered me with idiotic stuff 16:54 < A-Tui> ops sorry 16:54 < daja77> but now they are all at home, it's friday after all :) 16:54 < A-Tui> hehe yes, be optimist! 16:54 < daja77> :) 16:55 * daja77 watching realtime rocklinux build ... 16:55 < A-Tui> hehe, that's fun :) 16:56 < daja77> yeah + I have another build running at home 16:57 < A-Tui> my build crashed :( 16:57 < A-Tui> i'm going to start a new one 16:57 < daja77> completely? 16:57 < A-Tui> well not completely 16:57 < daja77> which rev? 16:58 < A-Tui> but i updated sources for rock and now i can build the old one 16:58 < daja77> svn or cvs? 16:58 < A-Tui> svn 16:59 < Auzain> bis bald 16:59 -!- Auzain [~Auzain@ANancy-103-1-4-166.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ("Client Exiting") 16:59 < daja77> okis, then have fun 16:59 < A-Tui> yesterday a had my last exam, so now i can have fun with rock :) 17:00 < daja77> great, you are welcome 17:00 < A-Tui> :) 17:01 < A-Tui> first i must look why build script hangs 17:03 < daja77> good idea 17:05 -!- tfing [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17:12 -!- tfing_ [tfing@dhcp-246-176.nomad.chalmers.se] has joined #rocklinux 17:13 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 17:21 < rolla> == 10:25:32 =[5]=> Building gnome2/mergeant011 [0.11.0 2.0.0-beta4]. 17:22 < rolla> 1-linux25.err 5-e.err 5-imlib2_loaders.err 5-k3b.err 5-linux25.err 17:25 < daja77> cu later 17:27 < A-Tui> bye daja77 17:33 -!- A-Tui [~eof@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.1") 17:34 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: aszlig 17:34 -!- Netsplit over, joins: aszlig 17:47 -!- A-Tui [~eof@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 17:52 -!- tfing_ [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has joined #rocklinux 17:55 -!- tfing [tfing@dhcp-246-176.nomad.chalmers.se] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17:56 -!- Netsplit over, joins: ringo30 17:56 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Ge0rG, blindcoder 17:57 -!- Netsplit over, joins: blindcoder 17:57 -!- andi5 [~andi5@rstk-d9b88fd6.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:59 < andi5> hi. could somebody please give me a simple answer? i am trying to get rock20 with svn. so i built subversion -> /opt/apache/bin/svn checkout https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk test -> svn: Bad URL passed to RA layer. did i build the wrong thing? 18:02 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:05 -!- andi5 [~andi5@rstk-d9b88fd6.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 18:16 < rolla> == 11:18:21 =[5]=> Building gnome2/gdm24 [2.4.1.3 2.0.0-beta4]. 18:44 < rxr> re 18:45 < Mike1> hi all 18:55 < daja77> *yeehah* this is /me from my granny's box 18:55 < daja77> hi Mike1 18:56 < daja77> she seems to like kde 18:57 < rolla> == 11:58:21 =[5]=> Building x11/mozilla [1.3.1 2.0.0-beta4]. 19:10 < Mike1> congratz daja77 19:16 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:16 < owl> hi 19:17 < Mike1> owly. 19:17 < Mike1> ping aszlig 19:18 < owl> hi Mike1 :) 19:18 < owl> greety from espana ;p 19:18 < Mike1> owl: what did i told you ? "Saludos desde Espana" 19:19 < owl> Mike1: bllllll :p 19:19 < Mike1> :PP 19:20 < owl> how are zou, Miguel? 19:20 < owl> (gnaaaa. spanish kezboard - i will never learn it) 19:20 < Mike1> i\m good thanks, a bit sleep (as always) but fine, and yourself? 19:20 < owl> sleep. and burned... (sun... zou know) 19:21 < owl> (and a bit feeling mz bodz.... cuy i did horse-riding again, todaz) ;) 19:21 < netrunner> note to owl: check your keymap 19:22 < owl> netrunner: aehm... iÇm using win... and there is spanish-kezboard set... 19:23 < Mike1> owl: you suck... you suck... 19:23 < Mike1> :P 19:23 < owl> Mike1: whz? ;) 19:24 < Mike1> owl: you should have take ur asus with you 19:24 < Mike1> and not use win.. 19:24 < Mike1> ah wait, you also run win in ur laptop, nevermind :P 19:24 < owl> Mike1: i donÇt use win... 19:24 < owl> (on notebook) 19:24 < Mike1> :P 19:25 < owl> hm. 19:25 < Mike1> owl: i'm just teasing you dear 19:25 < Mike1> don't be upset 19:25 < owl> Mike1: *kikc* 19:25 < Mike1> :P 19:25 < owl> hrmpf :p 19:27 -!- mnemoc [~mnemoc@200.75.27.83] has joined #rocklinux 19:27 < Mike1> hi Ale. 19:27 < owl> hi mnemoc 19:28 < mnemoc> hi :) 19:28 < mnemoc> 2.4.21 released 19:28 < Mike1> good 19:28 < Mike1> :) 19:28 < mnemoc> bad! :( 19:28 < Mike1> mnemoc: provide update patch 19:28 < mnemoc> i hoped official release would support gcc33 :( 19:28 < Mike1> i know you hate recompiling kernel hehe 19:28 < mnemoc> Mike1: i'm just doing that 19:29 < owl> gcc33? 19:29 < Mike1> it doesn't? 19:29 < owl> gcc2,gcc3,gcc33 in rock? 19:29 < Mike1> owl: yea, where have you been ? in the woods? 19:29 < Mike1> *ggg* 19:29 < Mike1> ah no in spain :) 19:30 < owl> Mike1: nope. iÇm a=) not reading RML anzmore (cuy of vacation), b) not having a look to rocklinux.org c) having no look to the sourc3e 19:30 < Mike1> funny stuff, we run 3 bdb versions, 3 gcc versions, 2 glibc versions, 2 gnome versions, are we going in the right way? 19:31 < mnemoc> gcc33 will become gcc3 when everything builds with it 19:31 < Mike1> owl: gcc33 have been around even before you left, but anyways, you will look at it when you are back i guess 19:31 < owl> _when_ everzthing builds with it... 19:32 < owl> Mike1: *rofl* having a look to rock-src? nope. and: /me has gcc-3.3 alreadz downloaded 19:32 < Mike1> ok 19:33 < mnemoc> owl everything (stages 0-4) but the kernel currently builds with gcc33 19:33 < Mike1> mnemoc: kernel 2.4 or 2.5? 19:33 < mnemoc> i'll hotfix the kernel these days 19:34 < mnemoc> at least 2.4 ;) 19:34 < mnemoc> haven't checked regression tests 19:34 < owl> hmmmm. 19:35 < mnemoc> 2.5.70 is out too 19:35 < blindcoder> hi hi ani rehi 19:35 < mnemoc> wb blindcoder 19:36 < owl> hi blindcoder ! 19:36 < blindcoder> hi owl 19:37 < rolla> re alll 19:37 < Mike1> wb rolla 19:37 < rolla> == 11:58:21 =[5]=> Building x11/mozilla [1.3.1 2.0.0-beta4]. 19:37 < rolla> yawn 19:37 < owl> hi rolla 19:37 < rolla> re owl nice to see you back 19:38 < mnemoc> hi rolla 19:38 < rolla> mnemoc: was gibt's? 19:38 < mnemoc> gibt? 19:39 * Mike1 wonders when will rock have support for raid5 stuff... 19:40 < owl> .oO(never) 19:40 < rolla> mnemoc: sorry. what is up? 19:40 < Mike1> owl: i would do it if i had time 19:40 < mnemoc> Mike1: an stone interface? 19:40 < Mike1> mnemoc: no, in the install disks 19:40 < mnemoc> it doesn't? 19:41 < Mike1> no. 19:41 < mnemoc> rolla: everything coll here :D 19:41 < Mike1> i need to install 2 servers and this si stopping me 19:43 < mnemoc> raiduitls is built on stage 5 19:43 < Mike1> mnemoc: we are not talking about raidtools 19:43 < Mike1> mnemoc: i am talking about raid5.o lvm.o ... 19:43 < mnemoc> kernel? ... what part of 'raid' 19:43 < mnemoc> mmm.... 19:43 < Mike1> kernel stuff not apps stuff 19:44 < rxr> Mike1: the default kernel has this ... 19:44 < Mike1> rxr: revision? 19:44 < Mike1> rxr: it doesn't seem to work for me here 19:44 < mnemoc> kernel builds everymodule.... that's why i took 6 hours to build it 19:45 < rxr> Mike1: last months ... 19:45 < rxr> mnemoc: jups - but not all modules are on the bootdisk ... 19:45 < Mike1> mnemoc: but not all of them are included in the install disks 19:45 < rxr> (hm - or are all in stage2 ??? I need to check ..) 19:45 < owl> hi rxr 19:45 < Mike1> rxr: well i'm trying to load rock on Dell Power Edge 2500 19:46 < rxr> Mike1: 19:46 < rxr> dnl Enable software-raid 19:46 < rxr> dnl 19:46 < rxr> CONFIG_MD=y 19:46 < rxr> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD=y 19:46 < rxr> CONFIG_MD_LINEAR=y 19:46 < Mike1> but of course this _@#$%_ issue is not helping at all 19:46 < rxr> CONFIG_MD_RAID0=y 19:46 < rxr> CONFIG_MD_RAID1=y 19:46 < mnemoc> Mike1: you are right!!! 19:46 < rxr> CONFIG_MD_RAID5=y 19:46 < rxr> CONFIG_MD_MULTIPATH=m 19:46 < rxr> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LVM=y 19:46 < rxr> the kernel _has_ it ... 19:46 < Mike1> rxr: desktops kernel you mean? 19:47 < rxr> nope this the default# 19:47 < Mike1> mm... 19:47 < Mike1> cheching.. 19:47 < Mike1> s/h/k 19:47 < rxr> on my server and my iBook I can verify that this is also build correctly into the kernel ... 19:50 < Mike1> mm... ok i will check it out more carefully 19:56 < netrunner> hm ... gsmp.tfh-berlin.de is unreachable. 19:57 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958F190.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:57 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F092.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: blindcod1r!blindcoder@pD958F190.dip.t-dialin.net))) 19:57 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 19:57 < rxr> netrunner: Y 19:57 < rxr> yes 19:57 < rxr> I have the box on my knees and a screwdriver in my hand ... 19:57 * rxr grummeling ... 19:57 < rxr> *shit damn x86 low-cost crap .... 19:58 < Mike1> *g* 19:58 < rxr> netrunner: I only wanted to install a new HD ... 19:59 < rxr> netrunner: I hope I can get into the university tomorrow. If yes it will be online tomorrow around 12 o'clock 20:02 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F190.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Lost terminal") 20:02 < netrunner> rxr: I am missing rockplug here, and gd.tuwien... 'has moved', and on leo it is not found. 20:02 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F190.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:03 < blindcoder> hmm... this machine can't stand high IDE-I/O 20:03 < blindcoder> but I think that's normal 20:03 < owl> #define people shit 20:03 < mnemoc> rxr: can you show last failures on 'arch' page on the regression tests? two clicks are too much for 'a view' 20:04 < Freak> #define owl knatschigaberdasisjawohlnormaloder 20:04 < rxr> mnemoc: ok - I'll do this later ;-) 20:04 < mnemoc> rxr: thanks :) 20:04 < owl> Freak: nah. iÇm not knatischig. 20:05 < netrunner> maybe someone want's to update linux24 ? 20:05 < mnemoc> (create chksum for kernel is slow as hell :( ) 20:05 < rxr> netrunner: https://schillernet.dyndns.org/rock-linux/ 20:05 < rxr> a temporary copy for rockplug ... 20:05 < Freak> owl: no, just normal like you always are. 20:06 < netrunner> rxr: thx 20:06 < owl> Freak: zou even donÇt know me. so zou canÇt know how i am alwazs 20:09 < Freak> owl: well a gurl like you who calls me $whatever every second day just can't be worth knowing better. and I don't think there is anything more to know than the fact that you are negative, self-destructive and hating. 20:10 < owl> Freak: might i have mz reasons for that 20:10 < rxr> Mike1: how is your raid doing ? 20:10 < Mike1> not good at all 20:11 < Mike1> rxr: i will run a new build and see what happens, it will be just a matter of hours 20:11 < Mike1> not longer than 1 day 20:12 < Mike1> rxr: stone doesn't recognize my rd for installation 20:12 < Freak> owl: sure. self-pity. 20:12 < owl> Freak: *ARGH* 20:12 < Mike1> are us this stuff is included _in_ the _bootdisk_ target? 20:12 < Mike1> hi Freaky 20:13 < Freak> hey Mike1 20:13 < rxr> Mike1: ?? 20:14 < Mike1> rxr: i don't know the damn thing will recognize my raid 20:14 < Mike1> will not* 20:14 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958FBDE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:14 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F190.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: blindcod1r!blindcoder@pD958FBDE.dip.t-dialin.net))) 20:14 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 20:14 < Mike1> blindy. 20:15 < Mike1> rxr: i'll just run yet another build and see what happens. 20:15 < rxr> I got it this far - but you said: 20:15 < rxr> 20:12 < Mike1> are us this stuff is included _in_ the _bootdisk_ target? 20:15 < Freak> owl: I do not want to talk to you in private nor in msg. 20:16 < owl> Freak: aha. because zouÇre ignorant 20:16 < owl> great 20:16 < owl> goodbzew 20:16 < Freak> n/m 20:16 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has left #rocklinux ("#anarchy...") 20:17 < Mike1> rxr: i mean is the raid* lvm* stuff included in the install disks kernel? 20:17 < rxr> you mean the user space progs? 20:17 < Freak> Mike1: at least she has new quitmsgs everytime she leaves, huh ;) 20:18 < Mike1> rxr: no i mean the modules to recognize such kind of hardware so stone will recognize my "hard disk" to install 20:19 * Mike1 getting frustrated 20:20 < rxr> they are build into the kernel - not as modules ... 20:20 < Mike1> still it is not working.. 20:20 < Mike1> we will see after my new build is over 20:21 -!- Pita [~trillian@x203136-7.shuis-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #rocklinux 20:21 < Pita> hey guys 20:21 < Pita> its me again 20:21 < Pita> I need help with linux again 20:21 < Mike1> welcome Pita 20:21 < Pita> now with the scripts after the installation of the packages 20:22 < Pita> its fucking hard to install this cheat but I am going to win the fight 20:23 < Mike1> no one said would be easy, but once you acomplish to build / install it, you get a great feeling and nice amount of knowledge 20:23 < Pita> thats what I hope 20:23 < Pita> really i am so anxious to have it running 20:24 < Mike1> no worries the fun won't be over once you install it :) 20:24 < Pita> cool 20:25 < Pita> regarding the scipts 20:25 < Pita> I runned all oif them 20:25 < Pita> but I am lost wioth the lilo.conf 20:25 < Mike1> whats the problem with it? 20:25 < Pita> how do I edit it ? 20:26 < Mike1> edit lilo.conf? 20:26 < Pita> really ? 20:26 < Mike1> vi /etc/lilo.conf 20:26 < Mike1> i'm not sure i'm getting ur question 20:26 < Pita> it doesnt recognise the vi command 20:27 < Pita> any special thing with the scripts ? 20:27 < Pita> should I run them all ? 20:27 < rxr> Pita: normally you have a STONE module that creates the lilo file and installs it ... 20:27 < Pita> yes 20:27 < rxr> (but GRUB is better anyway ...) 20:27 < Pita> easy man 20:27 < Pita> I am a newby 20:27 < Mike1> rxr: he is not running 1.7/ 2.0 i think 20:27 < Pita> no 20:28 < Pita> i am running 1.4.0 20:28 < Mike1> 0_o 20:28 < Pita> i know its old but is the starting point 20:28 < Mike1> its been quite a while 20:28 < Pita> in id 20:28 < Pita> did 20:29 < rxr> ok - new gsmp.tfh-berlin.de server hardware finished ... 20:30 < Mike1> rxr: good. :) 20:31 < Pita> so I run all the scripts and at the end try to edit the lilo.conf is that right ? 20:31 < Mike1> Pita: yeah 20:31 < Pita> using simply edit lilo.conf ? 20:31 < Mike1> Pita: you should be able to do that by doing: 20:32 < Pita> shouldnt I put the complete path to the lilo.conf file ? 20:32 < Mike1> cd /trg ; chroot . /bin/bash --login 20:32 < Pita> oki let me try 20:32 < Mike1> then you will be in ur just installed system so you can 'vi /etc/lilo.conf' 20:33 < Pita> k 20:33 < Pita> its still installing 20:33 -!- A-Tui [~eof@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.1") 20:33 < Mike1> Pita: i'm not sure but you might need to run 'mount /dev' and 'mount /proc' before running 'lilo' to apply the changes you did on /etc/lilo.conf 20:33 < Pita> in some scripts I say yes but Ive no idea what r for 20:34 < Mike1> Pita: when you don't know what to say / do, use the defaults :) 20:34 < Pita> so I edit the lilo and then just run those commands ? 20:34 < Pita> enter then 20:34 < Mike1> yeah :) 20:34 < Pita> k 20:42 < Pita> is there a . in the chroot command 20:43 < Mike1> just do as i said and i will know what to do :) 20:43 < Pita> k 20:43 < Mike1> i promise :) 20:43 < Pita> when doing the chroot command I get 20:43 < Pita> no such file or directory 20:44 < Mike1> did you cd /trg first? 20:44 < Pita> yes 20:45 < rxr> wow - www.kernel.org is nearly down due to the new major version and the additional slashdot effect ... 20:45 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p508020DC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:45 < Mike1> urgs 20:46 < Pita> there is no bash insid the bin directory 20:46 < Mike1> mm.. 20:47 < Mike1> is install finished ? 20:47 < mnemoc> rxr: i could send you the tarball but i guess i'm slower than the colapsed mirrors :) 20:47 < Mike1> mnemoc: hehe 20:47 -!- Pita [~trillian@x203136-7.shuis-s.tudelft.nl] has left #rocklinux () 20:48 -!- Pita [~trillian@x203136-7.shuis-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #rocklinux 20:48 < Pita> sure 20:48 < Pita> instaling the pakages I mean´ 20:48 < Mike1> finishe everything 20:48 < Mike1> then do what i said 20:49 * Mike1 back to raid5 fight 20:50 < Pita> I did 20:50 < Pita> i get 20:50 < Pita> no such file or directopry 20:58 < Pita> ??? 21:04 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50817D70.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:10 < Pita> mike1 still there ? 21:24 -!- Freak [freak@p508B3AA5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21:39 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 21:40 -!- Freak [freak@p508B3EB6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:42 < Pita> mike 1 ???? 21:42 < Mike1> re. 21:43 < Mike1> Pita: ? 21:43 < Pita> can we resart again ? 21:44 < Pita> when I do the chroot command I get no such file or directory 21:44 < Mike1> mm.. 21:44 < Mike1> weird 21:45 < Mike1> can you paste the full error message please 21:45 < Pita> thats it 21:45 < Pita> no such file or directory 21:45 < Pita> I do the command inside the -trg 21:45 < Mike1> does /trg exist? 21:45 < Pita> yes /trg exists 21:45 < Pita> and the bin also exists 21:45 < Mike1> is /trg empty? 21:45 < Mike1> mm.. 21:45 < Pita> but there is no bash inside bin 21:46 < Mike1> is the any sh ? 21:46 < Pita> Install the pakages and then run the scripts 21:46 < Pita> then change to /trg 21:46 < Pita> then do chroot command and I get that erro 21:46 < Mike1> tell me does /trg/bin/sh exist? 21:47 < rxr> this DNAT is in some way strange - it doesn not work here ... 21:47 < Mike1> rxr: ? 21:47 < Pita> yes 21:47 < Mike1> puta ok try chroot . /bin/sh --login 21:47 < Pita> aand also a sh_pdksh 21:47 < Mike1> sh soul dbe fine 21:47 < Pita> lolol 21:47 < Mike1> should. 21:47 < rxr> Mike1: 21:48 < rxr> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 8080 -j DNAT --to-dest 192.168.1.200:80 21:48 < rxr> shouldn't this thow all port 8080 stuff to 192.168.1.200:80 ?? 21:48 < Mike1> rxr: s/ --to-dest / --to 21:49 < SMP> hi Rene 21:49 < Mike1> with that you are redirecting all entrances to eth1 on port 8080 to 192.168.1.200 port 80, is that what you want? 21:49 < Mike1> rxr: tell me what you wanna do and i will try to help 21:50 < Mike1> hi SMP 21:50 < rxr> I want incomming tcp stuff on port 8080 go to an another box at port 80 ... 21:50 < Pita> same error 21:50 < Pita> no susch file or directory 21:50 < rxr> hi SMP 21:51 < Mike1> Pita: mm... restart installation, let me know when i run "Install" so i can tell you some hints 21:51 < Pita> restart instalationm with Install ?= 21:51 < Mike1> rxr: it should be iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp -i eth0 --dport 8080 -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.200:80 21:52 < Pita> that will install the pakages again 21:52 < Mike1> rxr: you can replace -i eth0 for -d <public-ip> if you want 21:52 < Pita> is that what u want ? 21:52 < Mike1> Pita, i want you to reboot the computer and reformat your hardistk 21:52 * SMP can't find 'logout' in ru_RU@UTF-8 Gnome ;-O 21:52 < Mike1> and start a new installation 21:52 < Mike1> SMP: 0_o 21:53 < Pita> k 21:53 < rxr> Mike1: no this server has a dynamic IP ... - and btw I do not want to optimize it - it should just start to work ... 21:53 < rxr> SMP: can you help with iptables DNAT ? 21:53 < Mike1> Pita: when you are inside the ROCK Linux install shell run "select */*" before "install" 21:53 < Pita> my HD doesnt take it all 21:53 < Pita> I cannot do that 21:53 < SMP> rxr: no, sorry, used iptables twice in my life and every time I just typed stuff from the howto ;) 21:54 < rxr> yeah - but the stuff from the howto does not work for me ... :-( 21:54 < Mike1> rxr: well if your kernel was compiled properly it should work 21:55 < rxr> if the kernel was not compiled properly iptables would not let insert me the rule ... 21:55 < Mike1> true. 21:55 < rxr> and masquerading worked before ... 21:55 < SMP> rxr: does one of the iptables commands succeed? 21:55 < SMP> ah 21:55 < rxr> SMP: jups all 21:55 < SMP> so the rule is there but it 'does not work'? 21:55 < rxr> SMP: yes 21:55 < Mike1> rxr: mm... weird. 21:56 < rxr> it also increases the package cound and transfered size - but it is not arriving at the second box ... 21:56 < SMP> what rules are in REROUTING before that one? 21:56 < SMP> ah 21:56 < Mike1> rxr: i asume you are trying from a box which is not behind the masquerating of that box 21:56 < SMP> s,RE,PRE, 21:56 < Pita> is the mke2fs the format command for partitions ? 21:56 < SMP> rxr: maybe some outbound rule on the inside eats the packets? 21:56 < Mike1> Pita: for the / partiton yes 21:56 < rxr> nothing - I only have masquerading in the POSTROUTING 21:57 < Pita> k 21:57 < Mike1> Pita: don't forget to create ur swal 21:57 < Mike1> Pita: in the install shell at least do 'select base/*' 21:59 < SMP> rxr: I need to know why you run the make install in gkrellm 21:59 < SMP> ehm 21:59 < SMP> rxr: with PACKAGE="" 22:00 < rxr> hm - I do not remember anymore ... 22:00 < rxr> some path thing or so ... 22:02 < Pita> ok I just started the Install 22:02 < Pita> the default is 142 pakages selected from a total of 252 22:02 < Pita> 256 22:03 * blindcoder off to bed 22:03 < Mike1> do a select base/* 22:03 < blindcoder> gn8 22:03 < Mike1> n8 blindy 22:04 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p508025E3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:04 < Pita> k 22:04 < Pita> continue with install ? 22:05 < SMP> wtf. 22:06 < netrunner> re 22:06 < Mike1> yes 22:06 < Pita> is that yes for me 22:06 < Pita> ? 22:07 < SMP> WTF 22:08 < Mike1> Pita: yeah 22:08 < SMP> HAHAHA 22:08 < Mike1> SMP: ? 22:09 < Pita> installing 22:10 < Mike1> Pita: good (cross fingers) 22:14 < netrunner> hm ... for a new package ... do I have to insert a line into the targets or is that done by target maintainers? 22:16 < rxr> netrunner: hm? into what target do you want to add a line for a package ? 22:19 < netrunner> rxr: oh, i want to add a package. now I want to make sure someone uses my package by including it into some targets ... maybe the patterns that are there will match, I'll check that. 22:19 < mnemoc> netrunner: generic and reference targets select packages by the priority field and .desc files. minimal and bootdisk use stages, the other are responsability of their mantainers 22:20 < mnemoc> s/field and /field in/ 22:21 < mnemoc> X: include, O: exlude by default 22:27 < rxr> netrunner: the general target build all 22:27 < rxr> all the other only selected stuff ... 22:28 < netrunner> rxr: thx, just found that :) 22:28 < Mike1> Pita: how is install doing? 22:28 * netrunner 's dual athlon now in a new case cooled by 6 fans seems to fight bravely against the heat 22:29 < Pita> let me see 22:29 < Pita> oki 22:29 < Pita> its done 22:30 < Pita> run scripts ? 22:30 < Mike1> yes 22:30 < Pita> k 22:32 < Pita> done 22:33 < Pita> change to /trg and run chroot ? 22:33 < SMP> aarrgh 22:33 < Mike1> Pita: yeah 22:35 < Pita> se same fucking error again 22:35 < Pita> no such file or directory 22:35 < Mike1> mm.. 22:35 < Pita> what a fuck 22:35 < Pita> try with sh ? 22:35 < Mike1> yeah 22:36 < SMP> aahrrghh! 22:36 < Mike1> SMP: are you ok? 22:37 < daja77> re 22:38 < mnemoc> Pita: can you ldd bash? 22:38 < Pita> idd ? 22:38 < mnemoc> ldd 22:38 < SMP> el-dd 22:38 < mnemoc> :) 22:38 < Pita> how do I use that 22:38 < SMP> but that doesn't help unless he's chrooted there 22:38 < mnemoc> can't you give a 'root' to ldd? 22:39 < Pita> i get always get no such file or directory no mwtter if it is bash or sh 22:39 < mnemoc> i vote for glibc :) 22:39 < SMP> what's the error message _exactly_? 22:40 < Pita> sh: chroot.-bin-bash : no such file or directory 22:41 < mnemoc> chroot /bin/ls? 22:41 < Pita> sh: chroot./bin/bash: no such file or directory 22:41 < SMP> and what command are you typing _exactly_? 22:41 < Pita> cd -trg 22:41 < Pita> cd /trg 22:41 < Pita> chroot./bin/bash --login 22:42 < SMP> you need spaces around the - 22:42 < SMP> the . 22:42 < daja77> 106 new mails on the list wtf 22:42 < Pita> so 22:42 < Pita> chroot . /bin/bash --login ? 22:42 < SMP> yes 22:42 < mnemoc> doh 22:43 < mnemoc> Pita: you were trying to execute '--login' inside a jail around /bin/bash :| 22:43 < Pita> urraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 22:43 < Pita> I got 22:43 < Pita> mounting dev 22:43 < Pita> and 22:43 < Pita> mounting proc 22:44 < Pita> is it ok ? 22:44 < Pita> i just tyoed what mike1 told me to 22:44 < Pita> typed 22:44 < mnemoc> you miss the spaces 22:45 < mnemoc> btw, Mike is THE bug 22:45 < Pita> lololo 22:47 < Mike1> mnemoc: how did you know? 22:47 < Mike1> :) 22:47 < mnemoc> you told me ;) 22:48 < Mike1> :PP 22:48 < mnemoc> when you reclute me for the 'broken rock, desstabilization project' 22:48 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB31E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:49 < daja77> .oO 2.4.21 came out and kernel.org is down 22:49 < daja77> no works again 22:50 < daja77> rxr: are you updating to it? 22:50 < mnemoc> i'm builing it :) 22:50 < daja77> :) 22:50 < tcr> rxr: ping 22:50 < mnemoc> the patch is on the list since 4 hours ago 22:51 < mnemoc> including checksum of course :) 22:51 * daja77 fighting through the list >_< 22:51 < rxr> tcr: /me busy - is there s.th. important ? 22:52 < rxr> mnemoc: I'll apply it, but currently I have some major network config stuff to do .. 22:52 < tcr> rxr: Relatively, but it can wait. I'll leave at 23:00 anyway; will you be here tommorrow? 22:52 < mnemoc> i'm happyly building it, tcr wants it 22:52 < mnemoc> s/tcr/daja 22:53 < tcr> mnemoc: :P 22:53 < tcr> I do want it too ;) 22:53 < mnemoc> :) 22:53 < rxr> tcr: yes I will be here - what is the topic? 22:53 < daja77> mnemoc: I can wait, rtai patches for 2.4.21 will take some days I guess 22:54 < mnemoc> too late for your porject? 22:54 < Pita> hey 22:54 < tcr> rxr: I'll be at berlin for monday till friday 22:54 < daja77> mnemoc: dunno, /me started a build today with 2.4.20, maybe I'll do another, maybe not 22:54 < Pita> i just edited the lilo.conf acording to a configurqation suplied by a friend 22:54 < Pita> what now ? 22:55 < mnemoc> lilo -v -v 22:55 < Pita> thats a command ? 22:55 < daja77> yes 22:56 < Pita> i got a fatal 22:56 < Pita> no images have been found 22:56 < Pita> what could it be ? 22:56 < daja77> wrong config 22:57 * Mike1 remembers there was a bug in /etc/lilo.conf back in the 1.4 days 22:57 < Mike1> it must be rebuild manually. 22:57 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090A295.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:57 < Pita> how 22:57 < Mike1> chroot stuff used to work for me.. 22:57 < daja77> Pita: you can't take the config of a friend without checking if it matches your system 22:58 < Pita> here is my lilo.conf 22:58 < daja77> no! 22:58 < mnemoc> nooooooooooo!!!! 22:58 < Mike1> >>>> DON'T PASTE IT <<<< 22:58 < Mike1> thanks you. 22:58 < Pita> why not ? 22:59 < mnemoc> /query Mike1 22:59 < daja77> we don't like chan flooding 22:59 < Mike1> mnemoc: you will die for this. 22:59 < mnemoc> :P 22:59 < daja77> hehehe 22:59 < tfing> daja77: who does ? :) 22:59 < Pita> its only 143 lines 22:59 < Pita> 14 22:59 < daja77> tfing: Mike1, mnemoc and me 22:59 < Mike1> 143 lines! 22:59 < tcr> Pita: You really should do you homeworks yourself. There are plenty of places where you can get your needed information, aren't there? :) 22:59 < Pita> i called image=/boot/vmlinuz 23:00 < Pita> could this be the problem ? 23:00 < Pita> is the opinion from tcr commomn to all of you ? 23:01 < Mike1> tcr: shut up. 23:01 < Pita> if it is I just leave all of u alone 23:01 * SMP knows how to use /ignore when it gets too annoying 23:01 < Mike1> Pita: no. Lets see shwo me your root 23:01 < Mike1> SMP: well said :) 23:01 < Mike1> Pita: you don't bother us, we will try to help you 23:02 < Pita> i am sorry for being so fucking newby 23:02 < Mike1> Pita: of course be patient, we are busy people. :) 23:02 < Pita> i see 23:02 < rxr> tcr: oh - I'm really really busy ... 23:02 < Mike1> Pita: nothing to be sorry for, i'm a newbie too 23:02 < Pita> what should I do now 23:02 < tcr> Pita: I don't want to be rude, and you may ask questions, but should ask them smartly (and there's even a howto for that purpose) 23:02 < rxr> I do not know if I can find a slot for a meeting ... 23:02 < Mike1> tcr: _shut_ up 23:03 < Pita> íf I have found a know to decente I would not be here 23:03 < Mike1> Pita: its quite a stange your problem, would you consider to install a newer version of rock? 23:03 < Pita> but there no Knowto basic enough 23:03 < Pita> its a very old machine 23:03 < Pita> I also have the 1.6.0 23:03 < Mike1> Pita: honestly 1.4 have at least 2 or 3 years old.. 23:03 < Mike1> yes install that one 23:03 < Pita> but it boots and when I run linux it just restarts 23:04 < Mike1> 1.6? 23:04 < Pita> yep 23:04 < Mike1> what kind of box is it? (processor) 23:05 < Pita> lolol 23:05 < Pita> Pi 166MHz with 64 MB of mem 23:05 < Mike1> and what is the optimization for the iso you are using? 23:05 < tcr> rxr: Hmm, would be a pity. Maybe we can just eat something or so.. but if you're really busy, I don't want to disturb your schedule 23:05 < Pita> i want to lear first linux before I move to install it on my P4 2.4GHz 23:05 < Mike1> rxr is _always_ busy. 23:06 < Pita> optimization ? 23:06 < Pita> i just downloaded the iso and burn the cd 23:06 < tcr> SMP: I consider /ignore to me a very impolite way of showing pure arrogance. 23:06 < tcr> to be 23:06 < Mike1> Pita: it should say something like rock-1.6.0pre3-i586... or so 23:06 < SMP> tcr: yes, good enough for me ;> 23:06 < Pita> its the pre3 23:06 < Mike1> SMP: looks like you have a candidate for ur /ignore .. 23:07 < Mike1> tcr: jk 23:07 < tcr> Ok, I must leave now. rxr: let's talk about that tomorrow 23:07 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB31E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Mess with the best, die like the rest!") 23:08 < SMP> hmm, :help in gvim still broken 23:08 < SMP> for no reason 23:09 < daja77> even :help uganda ? 23:10 < SMP> E149: Sorry, no help for uganda 23:10 < SMP> but that's a different error ;) 23:10 < SMP> vim's looking for the vim61 help.txt 23:10 < daja77> strange, poor kids in uganda getting no money this year cos vim is borken 23:11 < Pita> im so funking frustraded 23:13 < Pita> i was hoping to be a lot easier this fight agaist linnux 23:14 < rxr> Pita: you should not have choosen this old and broken version ... 23:14 < Pita> witch one should I try then ? 23:14 < Pita> 1.6.0 pre 3 ? 23:15 < Pita> I know 2.0 is to much for my poor machine 23:15 < rxr> nope _no_ vanilla ROCK Linux 1.6 ... 23:16 < rxr> take Desktop ROCK Linux 1.6.1-rcX .... 23:16 < rxr> the short name is dRock ... 23:16 < Pita> where do I get that ? 23:17 < Pita> drock 1.6.ç1 was canceled 23:18 < Pita> is this the one ? 23:18 < daja77> what is AKK in the linuxtag config? 23:23 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090B211.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:27 < Pita> where can I get the drock 1.6.1 ??? 23:32 < daja77> WEEE I am through the mail, and replied to ripclaw ... 23:33 < daja77> I guess the last good deed for today would be resending my patch 23:33 < tfing> hmm, got a pb with packaging a program 23:33 < tfing> the pb of scrollkeeps shared file 23:34 < tfing> i included the scrollkeeper.conf which is supposed to solved the pb, but it doesn't 23:34 < tfing> flistdel="$flistdel|var/.*/scrollkeeper/scrollkeeper_docs" 23:34 < tfing> and in the flist of the package : gjiten: var/scrollkeeper/scrollkeeper_docs 23:35 < tfing> rxr ? 23:40 < netrunner> q 23:45 < Pita> by 23:45 < Pita> thanks for all 23:45 -!- Pita [~trillian@x203136-7.shuis-s.tudelft.nl] has left #rocklinux () 23:49 < rxr> tfing: hm? 23:51 < tfing> rxr: see above, pb of shared files on a package i'm making 23:51 < rxr> tfing: remove one / :-) 23:51 < tfing> yep, that's what i wanted to do 23:51 < SMP> flistdel is evil 23:51 < tfing> but i wonder if i should remove it on the global scrollkeeper.conf 23:52 < rxr> yes please 23:53 < rxr> the one after .* 23:53 < tfing> ok 23:54 < SMP> rxr: in vim/config.in: 'Build seperate CML and GTK+ binary' - do you mean CLI, not CML? 23:59 -!- Pita [~trillian@x203136-7.shuis-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #rocklinux 23:59 < rxr> it was only intended to mean command-line 23:59 -!- Pita [~trillian@x203136-7.shuis-s.tudelft.nl] has left #rocklinux () 23:59 < rxr> but command-line-interface is also ok - after all this is onlz a comment ... ;-) --- Log closed Sat Jun 14 00:00:03 2003