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--- Log opened Tue Jun 24 00:00:00 2003 --- Day changed Tue Jun 24 2003 00:00 < Mike1> as usual /me faster :) 00:00 < daja77> Mike1: not here 00:00 < Mike1> daja77: but hey, great minds think alike 00:00 < daja77> hehe 00:00 < n00kie> doing fsck 00:01 < n00kie> what fs do you prefer? 00:01 < daja77> n00kie: you pervert! 00:01 < Mike1> n00kie: xfs .. 00:01 < Mike1> n00kie: but ext3 and reiserfs work fine for me 00:01 < daja77> you should use the fsck matching your filesystem 00:02 < daja77> ext3 rules 00:02 < tsa> i'd prefer vxfs.. ;) 00:02 * n00kie uses ext3 too 00:02 < Mike1> tsa: hehe :) 00:02 < n00kie> but jfs seems to be nice 00:02 < Mike1> n00kie: xfs kicks ass 00:02 < Mike1> but vxfs is also nice 00:02 < daja77> Mike1: reiserfs kicks data *gg* 00:03 < Mike1> and i kick you 00:03 * Mike1 kicks daja77 00:03 * daja77 beats Mike1 with a club 00:03 < n00kie> daja77: Go in to the left part of room 00:03 < n00kie> Mike1: go in to the right part of room 00:04 < daja77> Mike1: yeah let's meet in the centre and beat up n00kie 00:04 * rolla pokes daja77 with a stick 00:04 < Mike1> omg a sick orgy 00:04 < daja77> ahem nice to meet you rolla ... 00:05 < rolla> :) 00:05 * Mike1 runs away from n00kie, daja77 and rolla 00:05 < n00kie> uah 00:05 < Mike1> :) 00:05 < n00kie> psyochopatics in here ;) 00:05 < daja77> nah just austrian kid eaters 00:06 < daja77> :) 00:06 < n00kie> daja77 means australian 00:06 < n00kie> :p 00:06 < daja77> austria is nearer 00:07 < daja77> + austrian speaking an unknown language to me *ggg* 00:07 < mnemoc> same distance from here 00:07 -!- Freak [freak@p508B2B7A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exciting") 00:08 < daja77> mnemoc: hehe ;) 00:08 < mnemoc> we don't need a daja-like, we have the 'chupacabras' 00:08 < Mike1> mnemoc: hahahaha!!! 00:08 < daja77> mnemoc: ?? 00:09 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 00:09 * Mike1 wonders if anyone here bsides mnemoc and him know what 'chupacabras' is... 00:09 < rolla> bras for monkeys? 00:09 < daja77> *roflÜ 00:09 < Mike1> lol 00:10 < mnemoc> https://www.crystalinks.com/chupacabras.html 00:11 < daja77> heh! I am no goat sucker 00:11 < Mike1> mnemoc: i can't belive you collect that stuff 00:11 < mnemoc> google does 00:11 < Mike1> daja77: what are you then? a n00kie sucker? 00:11 < Mike1> :PP 00:11 < mnemoc> :o 00:11 < Mike1> jk :) 00:12 * daja77 trying to escape this chan ... 00:12 * Mike1 hides just in case 00:12 -!- mnemoc is now known as goat 00:12 -!- goat is now known as mnemoc 00:12 < daja77> mnemoc: you see 00:12 < rolla> how cute the first book my son pulls of the shelf is palm pilot programming :) 00:13 < Mike1> rolla: hey great! :) 00:13 < daja77> rolla: your poor son ;-) 00:13 < Mike1> daja77: he spoke binary before even saying bubu :) 00:14 < Mike1> :) 00:14 < daja77> hehe 00:14 < daja77> but palm programming is a matter of bad taste ... 00:14 < rolla> now he is playing with a fussball :) 00:14 < rolla> perfect 00:14 < n00kie> daja77 00:14 < rolla> now the unix books should be next 00:14 < n00kie> stop sucking on Mike1 00:14 < n00kie> he doesn't wants that 00:14 < n00kie> :P 00:14 -!- mangual [ruperto@200.21.110.221] has joined #rocklinux 00:14 < n00kie> hi mangual 00:15 < daja77> rolla: you come to soccer world championship to germany? 00:15 < rolla> now he has my C book 00:15 < Mike1> n00kie: ?! 00:15 < rolla> daja77: i could only dream 00:15 < daja77> hey he learns fast 00:16 < daja77> one guy from #mdlug wants to come 00:16 * Mike1 challenges anyone for a soccer game 00:16 < daja77> but he plays soccer himself 00:16 < Mike1> mnemoc: you join team with me right? 00:16 < rolla> Mike1: I suck at it but I love to watch it 00:16 < Mike1> rolla: hehe 00:17 * daja77 wanna see Mike1 run 00:18 < Mike1> daja77: hehe anytime :) 00:19 < daja77> Mike1: you come to 20C3? 00:21 < Mike1> daja77: if cchamilt allows me to take a few days then yes. :) 00:21 < daja77> oh thought he'll come too 00:22 < Mike1> daja77: no clue, we will ask him later when he wakes up 00:22 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F883.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 00:22 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F883.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:22 < daja77> hehe 00:23 < Mike1> daja77: will you be there? 00:23 < daja77> when? 00:23 < Mike1> 20c3 00:23 < daja77> think so 00:23 < Mike1> good 00:23 < Mike1> will you stay at a hotel or will you sleep there? 00:24 < daja77> sleeping there would be better I guess 00:24 < Mike1> i mean sleeping at the even place 00:24 < Mike1> or staying at a hotel 00:24 < n00kie> Mike1: You'll come from cr to germany? 00:24 < daja77> I don't have much money for hotel stuff 00:24 < Mike1> n00kie: i think it will be from sg to de 00:25 < n00kie> ah 00:25 -!- Freak [freak@p508B10B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:25 < n00kie> how long do you fly from sg to de? 00:25 < Mike1> daja77: ok 00:25 < Mike1> n00kie: i dunno, never been to sg yet :) 00:26 < n00kie> hehe 00:31 < daja77> n00kie: you come to 20c3? 00:33 < n00kie> no 00:33 < Mike1> n00kie: warum? 00:33 < n00kie> to far away 00:34 < Mike1> :( 00:34 < n00kie> :( 00:35 < daja77> far away, huh? 00:35 < Mike1> n00kie: are you telling _me_ it is far away? 00:36 < n00kie> uhm 00:36 < mnemoc> Mike1: i double your time ;) 00:36 < n00kie> Mike1: you are big 00:36 < n00kie> you can travel where you want 00:36 < n00kie> i not :( 00:37 < Mike1> n00kie: hehe i'm just 21 00:37 < mnemoc> good point 00:37 < mnemoc> 21? where? 00:37 < Mike1> n00kie: the old people here are for example mnemoc and daja77 00:37 < daja77> hehe Mike is _big_ *ggg* 00:37 < rolla> Mike1: I am the old one 00:37 < daja77> the channel grandpa ... 00:38 < n00kie> well, you all know, what I mean ;-) 00:38 < Mike1> rolla: shh i though it was a secret :) 00:38 < n00kie> Mike1: Just.. ;) 00:38 < Mike1> n00kie: yeah but i like to make fun of anyone older than me :) 00:38 < Mike1> n00kie: actually younger too :) 00:38 < n00kie> hehe 00:38 < Mike1> bwahaha little n00kie :) 00:38 < rolla> daja77: I am still older than you 00:39 < Mike1> is it really possible that someone is older than daja77? :P 00:39 < daja77> rolla: I was talking of you :P 00:39 < rolla> :) 00:39 < Mike1> brb 00:40 * daja77 steals Mike1's coffee for revenge 00:40 < n00kie> https://www.uforest.com/laura/daja2.jpg 00:40 < n00kie> lazy daja 00:40 < mnemoc> hehehe 00:41 < n00kie> :) 00:41 < Mike1> daja77: yeah yeah 00:42 < Mike1> n00kie: nic epic hehehe 00:42 < rolla> cdrecord sucks 00:42 * daja77 starts to hate n00kie ... 00:42 < n00kie> bad daja77 00:42 < n00kie> evil daja77 00:42 < n00kie> bastard daja77 00:42 * daja77 evil 00:43 < daja77> that fat cat looks more like Mike1 ... 00:43 * daja77 hides 00:43 < Mike1> daja77: excuse me how much do you weight? 00:43 < daja77> dunno 00:43 < mnemoc> ouch 00:44 * Mike1 wieghts 79kb atm 00:44 < Mike1> yes i have lost over 20kg 00:44 * n00kie weights 60kg 00:44 < n00kie> :) 00:44 < Mike1> sure little n00kie :) 00:44 < mnemoc> mmm.... i wights 85 :( 00:44 * daja77 weights less than Mike1 but I am small ... 00:44 < Mike1> 4 years ago /me used to weight 38kg < don't ask > 00:45 * Mike1 is not that tall .. 00:45 * daja77 asks Mike1 00:45 < daja77> I am only 1.20m 00:45 < Mike1> 1.20? 00:45 < mnemoc> Mike1: how tall? 00:46 < mnemoc> daja77: wtf? 00:46 * Mike1 almost 1.80 .. 00:46 < n00kie> mike1 is 2.10m 00:46 < daja77> it's true 00:46 < n00kie> really? 00:46 < mnemoc> 2.10 and 79k? mmm.... 00:46 * n00kie cannot believe that? 00:46 * Mike1 is 1.7x something and 79kg 00:47 < n00kie> mnemoc: How tall are you? 00:47 * mnemoc is 1.92 and 85kg 00:47 * n00kie is exactly 1.7 00:47 < n00kie> m 00:47 < mnemoc> rolla: your turn 00:47 < Mike1> mnemoc: are you up for a baskball game? one on one :) 00:48 < Mike1> basketball* 00:48 < rolla> mnemoc: I don't speak m and kg 00:48 < mnemoc> maybe ;) 00:48 < mnemoc> :( 00:48 < daja77> n00kie: see me holding a speech about rock 00:48 < Mike1> i'm more into extreme sports though :) 00:48 < daja77> https://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt5/media/bilder/vortraege/sonntag/10_00/v4/.tmp/IMG_8191.JPG.html 00:48 < daja77> :) 00:49 -!- daja77 is now known as shorty 00:49 < n00kie> Nice, daja :) 00:49 < shorty> :) 00:49 < n00kie> With a portrait picture, you look taller 00:50 < shorty> well I look taller in that wheelchair than I am 00:50 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:50 < shorty> hi jsaw 00:50 < shorty> how tall are you? 00:50 < jsaw> hi shorty 00:51 -!- shorty is now known as daja77 00:52 < mnemoc> shorty: how fast is your chair? 00:52 < jsaw> ah, daja77... 00:52 < daja77> :) 00:52 < daja77> mnemoc: 10km/h 00:52 < daja77> sometimes 12 00:52 < daja77> :) 00:52 < mnemoc> pretty cool 00:52 < rxr> hi 00:53 < mnemoc> hi rxr 00:53 < daja77> hi rxr 00:53 * daja77 wonders how tall rxr is ... 00:53 < rxr> hm? 00:53 < n00kie> rxr: How tall are you? 00:53 < mnemoc> m and kg 00:54 < Mike1> rxr finally here 00:54 < Mike1> :) 00:54 -!- mangual [ruperto@200.21.110.221] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:54 < daja77> we're just discussing measures of #rocklinux members 00:54 < rxr> 1m80 00:54 < n00kie> kg ? 00:55 < rxr> n00kie: first size - now kg ??? 00:55 < rxr> How are we ? 00:55 < n00kie> normal ;-) 00:55 * rxr rename #rocklinux #fitness ... 00:55 < jsaw> 1.85/78 00:55 < n00kie> hehe rxr 00:55 < rxr> s/how/Who/ 00:55 < mnemoc> rolla don't want to answer 00:55 * daja77 smallest and jsaw biggest ... 00:56 < daja77> rolla is oldest ... 00:56 < n00kie> s/biggest/tallest 00:56 < jsaw> rolla, how old are you? 00:56 < n00kie> 86 00:56 < n00kie> :) 00:57 < mnemoc> hehehe 00:57 < daja77> evil n00kie 00:57 < rxr> 1.80/68 - my girlfriend says ... 00:57 < daja77> rxr: girlfriends are _always_ right 00:57 < rxr> hi Mike1 and all btw ... 00:57 < jsaw> is rolla really older than 30? 00:57 < mnemoc> she fail to choose him 00:57 < daja77> jsaw: yes 00:58 < jsaw> glad to hear that ;-) 00:58 < daja77> hehe 00:58 < mnemoc> jsaw: and you? 00:58 < Mike1> rxr: still want untested patches from me? 00:58 < jsaw> mnemoc: 30 00:58 < mnemoc> m/kg? 00:58 < rxr> Mike1: yes - please - I 00:59 < rxr> 'll release -beta6 without them - and merge them for -rc1 ... 00:59 < jsaw> mnemoc: dito 1.85/78 00:59 < Mike1> rxr: mm.. 00:59 < Mike1> rxr: could you please merge my 2 patches to the list before releasing -beta6? 00:59 < n00kie> I hope that rock 2.0 will be released before july 00:59 < daja77> n00kie: haha 00:59 < rxr> n00kie: nope 00:59 < Mike1> rxr: are we sure we want to move to rc1 now? 00:59 < n00kie> rxr: Oh 01:00 < rxr> Mike1: yes - we want to have some form of stable release <dot> 01:00 < daja77> n00kie: wanna bet against me, I could pay of blindcoder then ;-) 01:00 < mnemoc> so /me is the tallest ;) 01:00 < Mike1> rxr: ok 01:00 < Mike1> so mailing patches to rxr now :) 01:00 < Mike1> *vbeg* 01:00 < rxr> Mike1: wether we change and improve stuff after the 2.0.0 is another thing - look at the kernel - there is always stuff to do .. 01:00 < mnemoc> Mike1: to the list :( 01:00 < Mike1> mnemoc: no to rxre 01:00 < Mike1> rxr* 01:00 < mnemoc> to the list :( 01:00 < Mike1> mnemoc: most of them are untested 01:01 < mnemoc> k 01:01 < Mike1> mnemoc: i can cc to you if you want though 01:01 < mnemoc> yes yes 01:01 < rxr> Mike1: mark them as untested on the top - and add that I wanted to see them ... 01:01 < mnemoc> i love untested stuff 01:01 < Mike1> rxr: i excluded mnemoc's patches from mines, please check his 01:01 < Mike1> to you or to the list? 01:01 < rxr> Mike1: if other like to see them to the list ... 01:02 < Mike1> rxr: well mnemoc wants to see them so.. 01:02 < Mike1> rxr: i will split it on to 2 mails.. 01:02 -!- Freak [freak@p508B10B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exciting") 01:03 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B10B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:03 < mnemoc> thanks Mike1, thanks rxr 01:04 < Mike1> mnemoc: what for? 01:04 < mnemoc> for sharing your untested patch to me ;) 01:04 < mnemoc> what about minimal.iso? stage 5? 01:04 * daja77 thinks of sending garbage patches to mnemoc 01:05 < tsa> hehe 01:05 < rxr> hi tsa 01:05 < tsa> hi rxr 01:05 < tsa> rxr: i assume you have missed a patch on the list.. 01:06 < tsa> daja committed a new package - ypbind .. 01:07 < tsa> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:38:01 +0200 01:07 < tsa> From: Daniel Jahre <rock@lospalmos.net> 01:07 < tsa> Subject: [rock-linux] [PATCH] adding package ypbind 01:07 < rxr> tsa: which one? I'm now applying - I was away this afternoon / evening ... 01:08 < daja77> mnemoc: I could send you some rtai patches, which need some cleanup before release to test for you, on wednesday? 01:11 < jsaw> I have evolution-1.4 to offer... 01:11 < mnemoc> daja77: i can read them, but no test it :( 01:11 < Mike1> mnemoc: rxr first round of patches sent to the list. 01:12 < daja77> mnemoc: why 01:12 < Mike1> mnemoc once again remember they are *untested* 01:13 < mnemoc> daja77: my box needs an exorcism 01:13 < daja77> hehe delete windows ;-) 01:17 < rxr> mnemoc: oops - the minmal target yes ... /me just building ... 01:18 < mnemoc> rxr: did you apply mike's minimal patch? 01:18 < Mike1> rxr: /me is building mnimal too, please apply my patch so both builds are alike :) 01:19 < rxr> mnemoc: just in this second ... 01:20 < daja77> == 01:19:47 =[5]=> Building kasc/torcs [1.2.1 2.0.0-beta6]. 01:20 < daja77> build still not finished >_< 01:21 < daja77> if it finish this night, I can tell them I brought real fresh isos for you ;-) 01:22 < jsaw> what's the status of (confopt) path rewriting for jailing 01:26 < n00kie> gtg, bed 01:26 -!- n00kie is now known as [n00kie] 01:26 < [n00kie]> Sleep well guys :) 01:26 < daja77> n8 [n00kie] 01:26 < Mike1> n8 [n00kie] 01:26 < Mike1> :) 01:26 < [n00kie]> n8 daja77, Mike1 01:26 * daja77 faster :) 01:26 < Mike1> daja77: not here :P 01:26 < [n00kie]> ;-) 01:26 < [n00kie]> Monitor off 01:26 < daja77> *argl* 01:28 < daja77> Mike1: wanna bet how long it takes before he gets disconnected? :) 01:28 < Mike1> daja77: hehe 3 minutes :) 01:29 < daja77> hehe 5 min :) 01:29 < Mike1> ok 01:30 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: cchamilt, Aard 01:30 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Aard 01:30 < Mike1> rxr: can i host minimal target isos at ur server? 01:30 < daja77> Netsplit spit out chris ... 01:31 < rxr> Mike1: yes 01:31 < rxr> Mike1: but I need to think how you have to transfer them first ... 01:31 < Mike1> rxr: rsync ... 01:31 < rxr> Mike1: can't I pull them from your site ? 01:32 < Mike1> mm.. 01:32 < rxr> Mike1: are all of those patches untested ? 01:32 < Mike1> ok. 01:32 < daja77> <evil> svn import </evil> 01:32 < Mike1> rxr: most 01:32 < Mike1> rxr: i had to change priorities and it went to a low priority thing, i'm sorry. 01:33 < Mike1> rxr: i do have a a little bit more of time and hd space for this. 01:33 < Mike1> rxr: btw those are just base.. 01:35 < mnemoc> wow... Check-PkgVersion is amazing 01:35 < daja77> ? 01:35 < Mike1> mnemoc: suprissed ? :) 01:36 < Mike1> mnemoc: better that checking every [V] against freshmeat don't you think? 01:37 < rxr> mnemoc: article about the script for the next rolling rock ? 01:37 < mnemoc> of course 01:37 < Mike1> hehe good mnemoc :) 01:37 < daja77> !> [ writing debug log to /R.work/src.cheapskatefonts.10564 .. 01:37 < daja77> !> Running main build function 'fonts_main' ... 01:37 < daja77> !> unhandled extension! Please modify cheapskatefonts.conf 01:37 < daja77> wtf? 01:37 < mnemoc> mmmm 01:37 < Mike1> rxr: want an article of minimal ? 01:37 < mnemoc> Mike1: of course ; rxr: dunno 01:37 < daja77> when is the next rolling rock issue? 01:38 < Mike1> mnemoc: we can do the article together if you want 01:38 < mnemoc> Mike1: sounds interesting 01:41 * daja77 should dig through this build.log when he is back from MD 01:41 < rxr> Mike1: it is not particularly me - any article would be nice 01:41 < rxr> daja77: every few month when we have enought articles ... 01:41 < Mike1> rxr: its been a while since i don't write for rolling rock, will be fun 01:41 < daja77> rxr: okis 01:42 < daja77> there seem to be some untested .conf files in rock 01:43 < rxr> daja77: yes - maybe. which ones do you mean=? 01:44 < tsa> -lilo- [Global Notice] Hi all. We're experiencing severe attacks and we'll be shutting down the network piece by piece. Thanks. 01:44 < tsa> uh-oh 01:44 < Mike1> ah great 01:45 < Mike1> rxr: i case i get cutted off, spect second mail of patches in some minutes 01:45 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Real Life is just an illusion caused by IRC deprivation") 01:45 < daja77> rxr: interested in a quick fix 01:45 < rxr> daja77: jups 01:46 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: tsa, Aard 01:46 < daja77> rxr: in kasc/scilab.conf change append_var to var_append on lines 24 and 25 01:48 < rxr> daja77: ack - committing 01:48 < daja77> poor kasc, he has a package where damn configure scripts tests the presence of /dev/dsp 01:48 < rxr> daja77: which one ? 01:48 * daja77 hopes never smoking the same grass then the autoconf folks 01:49 < daja77> squaroid 01:49 < daja77> you saw the output of cheapskatefonts I posted here btw? 01:50 < rxr> daja77: nope 01:51 < daja77> !> Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. 01:51 < daja77> !> This is free software; see the source for copying condit .. 01:51 < daja77> !> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A .. 01:51 < daja77> !> [ writing debug log to /R.work/src.cheapskatefonts.10564 .. 01:51 < daja77> !> Running main build function 'fonts_main' ... 01:51 < daja77> !> unhandled extension! Please modify cheapskatefonts.conf 01:51 < daja77> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-cheapskatefonts.out -> 5-cheapskatefonts.err 01:51 < daja77> == 06/24/03 01:35:33 =[5]=> Aborted building package cheapskatefonts. 01:51 < daja77> there seems to be a problem with the build function 01:54 < daja77> ah change mainfunction to custmain should do the trick 01:54 < rxr> daja77: I'm just improving this - can you test my commit in some minutes ß 01:55 < daja77> I guess nikolaus haven't tested the build of this package 01:57 < daja77> I'll fix that package myself, and rebuild it, don't like to do svn up agian, don't wanna risk this build 01:57 < rxr> daja77: you can up this single file 01:57 < daja77> good idea 01:59 < daja77> hmm haven't your commit mail on that issue yet 01:59 * daja77 likes to be debugger 01:59 < rxr> daja77: still editing ... 02:00 < daja77> ic 02:01 < rxr> daja77: now 02:01 < rxr> completely untested - maybe it fails barely ... 02:03 < daja77> you did more than changing mainfunction to custmain? 02:03 < rxr> erhm - yes ? 02:03 < daja77> *argl* you changed the sig 02:04 < daja77> == 02:05:14 =[5]=> Building nikolaus/cheapskatefonts [2003-04-23 2.0.0-beta6]. 02:04 < rxr> sig ? 02:04 < daja77> !> [ writing debug log to /R.work/src.cheapskatefonts.10564 .. 02:04 < daja77> !> Running main build function 'fonts_main' ... 02:04 < daja77> !> tar (child): Cannot open archive PenguinAttack.tbz2: No .. 02:04 < daja77> !> tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now 02:04 < daja77> !> tar: Child returned status 2 02:04 < daja77> !> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors 02:04 < daja77> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-cheapskatefonts.out -> 5-cheapskatefonts.err 02:04 < daja77> == 06/24/03 02:05:45 =[5]=> Aborted building package cheapskatefonts. 02:05 < daja77> ah forget it, i can't read anymore :) 02:05 < daja77> what is this PenguinAttack for 02:05 < rxr> daja77: have you downloaded it ? 02:05 < rxr> that is a downloaded file for the package ... 02:05 < daja77> I guess not, wasn't needed before 02:07 < daja77> I can't believe that I am still here debugging :)) 02:07 < rxr> daja77: hm - yes with custmain it would be even nicer to realize ... 02:08 * daja77 used custmai9n for rtai package ... 02:08 < rxr> daja77: could you do the final clenup by converting it to custmain = 02:08 < rxr> ? 02:08 < rxr> damn today I have it with ß and = for the simple ? char ... 02:08 < daja77> and then svn commit 02:08 < rxr> daja77: hm?gcc3/wrappers.in 02:08 < daja77> huh? 02:08 < rxr> argh damn shit fuck - damn beer 02:08 < daja77> *gg* 02:08 < rxr> daja77: hm? svn commit ? more a mail to me ;-) 02:09 < daja77> *aargh* 02:09 < rxr> or was this a try to enable write support for you when I have consumed some beers? 02:10 < daja77> drink some more and I try again 02:10 < mnemoc> rxr: did I remove trailing comma on wrapper.in? 02:10 < daja77> in the long run it sucks anyway to have an rcs without using its benefits 02:10 < rxr> mnemoc: maybe it was me ... 02:11 < rxr> daja77: yes - I already wrote in some mails that people get fine grained write access 02:11 < rxr> but in the past Clifford and I had to filter many patches out - currently the trend is that more skilled people show up, where we do not need to reject so much - so some peple get write access 02:11 < daja77> doin a patch and send it to you is more work for me then you doin a s/mainfunction/custmain 02:12 < rxr> daja77: yes 02:12 < rxr> daja77: just continue your good work and you get access in some weeks ... 02:12 < daja77> okis 02:12 < rxr> as mnemoc, esden, jsaw, tsa, ..., ... 02:13 < mnemoc> :o .... thanks 02:13 < rxr> but some poeple simply send stuff that should not go into the tree without some eyes taken a look 02:13 < rxr> well SMP of course is also on the valid people list ... 02:13 * daja77 kills rxr 02:14 < rxr> daja77: why ? 02:14 < daja77> due the update the damn build script relaunched the whole build *this sucks* 02:14 < rxr> daja77: what do you mean ? 02:15 < daja77> == 02:14:26 =[1]=> Building base/linux25 [2.5.72 2.0.0-beta6]. <-- this 02:15 < rxr> daja77: what have you updated ? 02:16 * Mike1 sign... wow many ones have write access... how come i dont.. 02:16 < rxr> Mike1: I might get too 02:16 < daja77> Mike1: you were the first ... ;-) 02:16 < rxr> currently I have mostly nfilus on the blacklist ... 02:16 < Mike1> daja77: ? 02:17 < daja77> *ggg* 02:17 < Mike1> daja77: i do not have write access... 02:17 < rxr> Mike1: only I have - this was just a over the time some core delopers get write access .... 02:17 < daja77> rxr: ahem maybe it only retries borken packages 02:18 < rxr> daja77: only if you selected this ... 02:18 < Mike1> rxr: ah isee. 02:18 < daja77> cant remember 02:20 < daja77> wtf this damn download script doesn't fetch this penguin fluff 02:21 < daja77> I fear I'll get same of this nasty versio0n conflicts once more 02:21 < rxr> daja77: here for me it got fetched ... 02:21 < daja77> it doesn't even try, my it isn't on the Doenload index 02:22 < rxr> daja77: you do a required? 02:22 < daja77> yepp 02:22 < rxr> is the package in your package selection= 02:22 < rxr> erhm "?" 02:22 < daja77> cheapskatefonts is 02:22 < rxr> an -all download fetches it here ... 02:23 < rxr> daja77: could you try a Download -pkg checkskatefonts ? 02:23 < daja77> haha 02:24 < daja77> Processing pattern download/*/cheapskatefonts/* ... 02:24 < daja77> Matched: download/nikolaus/cheapskatefonts/PenguinAttack.tgz 02:24 * daja77 puzzled 02:24 < daja77> does this means it is there? 02:25 < rxr> erhm 02:25 < daja77> it is ls told wtf 02:25 < daja77> me 02:26 < rxr> jups 02:26 < daja77> hey /me doesn't even need dau.pl to type nonsense now 02:27 < daja77> !> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A .. 02:27 < daja77> !> [ writing debug log to /R.work/src.cheapskatefonts.10564 .. 02:27 < daja77> !> Running main build function 'build_this_package' ... 02:27 < daja77> !> Extracting PenguinAttack.tbz2 (--use-compress-program=bz .. 02:27 < daja77> !> Changeing into /R.work/src.cheapskatefonts.1056414470.18 .. 02:27 < daja77> !> chown: failed to get attributes of `/R.work/src.cheapska .. 02:27 < daja77> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-cheapskatefonts.out -> 5-cheapskatefonts.err 02:27 < daja77> == 06/24/03 02:28:43 =[5]=> Aborted building package cheapskatefonts. 02:27 < daja77> nikolaus: please _damn_ test your packages! 02:28 < rxr> daja77: write it to him - the last time I did he complained I'm to hard and need more soft skills ... 02:28 < daja77> ROTFL 02:29 < jsaw> *grin* 02:30 * jsaw curses Mathematica 02:30 < rxr> jsaw: hm? 02:31 < jsaw> what tf do i need such stupid stuff if it cannot even simply copy a plot from it to Adobe Illustrator 02:31 < daja77> hmm /me looking at cheap*conf, is $taropt a valid var? 02:32 * daja77 checking 02:32 < rxr> daja77: yes 02:33 < daja77> but it seems not to be working ... 02:34 < daja77> I tested it manually, works 02:34 < jsaw> (sorry, I'm trying to get some figures ready for my paper, *haare rauf*) 02:34 * daja77 loosing hair as well 02:34 < rxr> jsaw: btw: are you a student? 02:35 < jsaw> rxr: phd student (bzw. Doktorand) 02:37 < daja77> bah I'm not capable of checking if his sed expression is right atm 02:38 < rxr> daja77: I might have added the sed stuff 02:38 < jsaw> s/daja77's hair/annihilation/, hehe 02:38 * daja77 kicks jsaw 02:38 < rxr> daja77: or should I convert it quickly = 02:38 < rxr> ? 02:39 < daja77> this is the error I get 02:39 < daja77> Running main build function 'build_this_package' ... 02:39 < daja77> Extracting PenguinAttack.tbz2 (--use-compress-program=bzip2 -xf) ... 02:39 < daja77> Changeing into /R.work/src.cheapskatefonts.1056414470.18463.3418605146/PenguinAttack ... 02:39 < daja77> chown: failed to get attributes of `/R.work/src.cheapskatefonts.1056414470.18463.3418605146/PenguinAttack': No such file or directory 02:39 < daja77> --- BUILD ERROR --- 02:39 < daja77> Creating file list and doing final adoptions ... 02:39 < daja77> Found 6 files for this package. 02:39 < rxr> daja77: should I ? 02:40 < daja77> the filename should be PenguinAttack.ttf instead of PenguinAttack 02:40 < daja77> rxr: ack 02:40 * jsaw is away: one more coffee 02:41 < rxr> jsaw: hehe ;-) 02:41 < daja77> fsck damn late 02:42 < daja77> .oO my build for md hasn't finished ... 02:43 * daja77 curses the linux25 package 02:43 < rxr> daja77: what is this version of the font package doing ? 02:44 < daja77> ?? 02:44 < rxr> daja77: could you try after and svn up of this cheapskatefonts dir ? 02:44 < daja77> I thought you wanna modify sth 02:45 < daja77> okis 02:45 < rxr> daja77: I modified it - but I just imagined the next bug - one iteration please 02:46 < daja77> damn I got a conflict 02:46 < rxr> daja77: just remove the files and redo svn up 02:46 < rxr> (I alredy fixed the next bug in it ...) 02:47 < rxr> (only the two files in cheapskatefonts - not the wohle tree ...) 02:48 < daja77> rxr: we should have a drink on lxtag and then kick him ... 02:48 * jsaw is back (gone 00:07:22) 02:48 < daja77> == 06/24/03 02:50:18 =[5]=> Finished building package cheapskatefonts. 02:48 < daja77> rxr: congrats 02:48 < rxr> daja77: is the flist ok noe ? 02:48 < rxr> s/noe/now/ ? 02:49 < jose> hello everybody!! 02:49 < rxr> all fonts in the gem ? 02:49 < rxr> hi jose 02:49 < daja77> how do I check this 02:49 < rxr> just vi,less,more the var/adm/flist/cheapskatefonts (--typos) 02:50 < jose> working hard to make the rock harder !? 02:50 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/PenguinAttack.ttf 02:50 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: var/adm/cksums/cheapskatefonts 02:50 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: var/adm/dependencies/cheapskatefonts 02:50 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: var/adm/descs/cheapskatefonts 02:50 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: var/adm/flists/cheapskatefonts 02:50 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: var/adm/md5sums/cheapskatefonts 02:50 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: var/adm/packages/cheapskatefonts 02:50 < daja77> that's all, the fonts of the zip files are missing 02:51 < rxr> daja77: ah yes I know why - mom 02:51 < daja77> jose: nope we work soft to make rock softer ;-) 02:53 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B10B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exciting") 02:53 < mnemoc> daja77: are you as good kid eater as flooder? 02:54 < daja77> I am debugging, get out of my way! :) 02:54 * mnemoc falls down the chair 02:55 < daja77> good mnemoc *ggg* 02:56 < rxr> daja77: now ? 02:56 < daja77> *sigh* 02:58 < daja77> !> `dustismo_italic.ttf' -> `/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/TrueTyp .. 02:58 < daja77> !> Trying to copy the default documentation ... 02:58 < daja77> !> Creating /usr/<..> if required ... 02:58 < daja77> !> Archive: /R.work/download/nikolaus/cheapskatefonts/El_A .. 02:58 < daja77> !> replace license.txt? [y]es, [n]o, [A]ll, [N]one, [r]enam .. 02:58 < daja77> !> (assuming [N]one) 02:58 < daja77> !> inflating: El_Abogado_Loco.ttf 02:58 < daja77> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-cheapskatefonts.out -> 5-cheapskatefonts.err 02:58 < daja77> == 06/24/03 02:59:45 =[5]=> Aborted building package cheapskatefonts. 02:58 < rxr> oh my ... 02:59 < daja77> I guess it is cos all have license.txt in it, maybe you should delete it afterevery unzip 03:00 < rxr> daja77: now 03:00 < daja77> you owe me sth ... 03:01 < rxr> 10GB on gsmp today ;-)! 03:01 < daja77> cool 03:01 < rxr> 60GB this months 03:01 < rxr> (and only http - ftp not counted ... 03:01 < rxr> ) 03:02 < daja77> == 06/24/03 03:03:46 =[5]=> Finished building package cheapskatefonts. 03:02 < rxr> and the flist is nicer now ? 03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/Dustismo_Roman.ttf 03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/Dustismo_Roman_Bold.ttf 03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/Dustismo_Roman_Italic.ttf 03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/Dustismo_Roman_Italic_Bold.ttfcheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/Dustismo_sans.ttf 03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/PenguinAttack.ttf 03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/balker.ttf 03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/dustismo_bold.ttf 03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/dustismo_bold_italic.ttf 03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/dustismo_italic.ttf 03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/el_abogado_loco.ttf 03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/flatline.ttf 03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/it wasn't me.ttf 03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/junkyard.ttf 03:03 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/markedfool.ttf 03:03 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/progenisis.ttf 03:03 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/swift.ttf 03:03 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/wargames.ttf 03:03 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/winks.ttf 03:03 < daja77> should be ok? 03:03 < Mike1> daja77: GOD DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 03:03 < rxr> yes - seems to be ok ... 03:04 < daja77> Mike1: *ggg* this was a must, now I am off to bed ... 03:04 < Mike1> daja77: you have been the "must" for quite a while already... 03:04 < daja77> Mike1: now you can flood if you like, I am away now, have fun 03:05 < Mike1> daja77: don't miss understand me, but you just know my reacting to floods :) 03:05 < Mike1> daja77: /me not a flooder :) 03:05 < rxr> daja77: thanks for testing and good night! 03:05 < daja77> at least it brought you back ;-) 03:05 * Mike1 knows something called query for flooding :) 03:05 < Mike1> daja77: i\ve been here all the time, just busy 03:05 < Mike1> :) 03:06 < daja77> gn8 Mike1 rxr and all, nice to work with you 03:06 < Mike1> daja77: sleep well my freind 03:08 < jsaw> g'night daja77 03:09 < rxr> I'll leave now, too 03:09 < Mike1> rxr: :( 03:10 < rxr> jsaw: if you have some free minutes - your comments to bug-tracking systems would be very welcome - best via mail to rene@rocklinux.org ;-) 03:10 < Mike1> rxr: so do you want the gnome patches too? or should i look at them? 03:10 < rxr> good night Mike1 jsaw and * 03:10 < Mike1> rxr: answer to me before you leave please. 03:10 < rxr> Mike1: if you have time to look over them that would be nice - otherwise just send the raw patches - I'll test and merge them 03:11 < rxr> Mike1: sure - I always answer when I'm just about to leave ... ;-) 03:11 < Mike1> rxr: i do not that much time yet, so it will be better if you look at them _this_ time 03:11 < Mike1> rxr: next time i do it :) 03:11 < Mike1> rxr: have a great n8 03:11 < rxr> Mike1: ack - send them over - I would like to see GNOME more up-to-date (although I do not use it - just for the ROCK up-to-dateness ...) 03:12 < jsaw> rxr: haven't forgotten it, g'night, sleep well. 03:12 < Mike1> rxr: they are on the way.. you will hate me when you see the amount but oh well 03:12 < Mike1> cu Ren 03:12 < rxr> Mike1: thanks 03:12 < rxr> jsaw: thanks 03:12 < rxr> n8 03:13 < rxr> Mike1: could you do the minimal build for mnemoc - I need the computing power for -beta6 .... 03:13 < Mike1> rxr: i'm building it already, it will be ready by tomorrow afternoon. 03:14 < Mike1> rxr: keep ur computing power for beta6 :) 03:14 < Mike1> 58 patches sent to rxr ... 03:15 < rxr> oh my - tomorrow will be a even more patch-merging day then today ... 03:15 < Mike1> rxr: hehe i said you would hate me :) 03:15 * Mike1 runs 03:16 < Mike1> :) 03:16 < Mike1> cheers rxr <EOT> 03:20 < jsaw> Mike1: you forgot the patches... 03:21 < Mike1> jsaw: urrgss... yeah thanks ! :) 03:31 < Mike1> jsaw: re-sent, with the patches this time :) 03:31 < Mike1> jsaw: btw _alot_ of patches. 03:34 < Mike1> ok i come back in some hours 03:40 < jsaw> cu 04:13 < mnemoc> re 04:19 < jsaw> hello mnemoc 04:20 < mnemoc> hello jsaw 04:43 -!- Aard [~bwachter@aardchat.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:50 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: netrunner, rolla, ring-0 05:50 -!- Netsplit over, joins: netrunner, rolla, ring-0 06:07 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 06:12 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@162.42.77.50] has joined #rocklinux 06:12 < holyolli> moin 06:12 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@162.42.77.50] has quit (Client Quit) 06:15 -!- [n00kie]_ [~n00kie@M284P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 06:20 -!- [n00kie] [~n00kie@M291P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06:23 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@162.42.77.50] has joined #rocklinux 06:23 < holyolli> re 06:27 < mnemoc> moin holyolli 06:28 < holyolli> hola mnemoc 06:30 < Mike1> cpt holyolli 06:30 < holyolli> Mike1! 06:30 < Mike1> re. 06:30 < holyolli> Mike1: the cpt still takes some days... ;-) 06:30 < holyolli> Mike1: between juli 15th and 22th we've you cpl checks =) 06:30 < Mike1> ok holyolli :) 06:31 < holyolli> Mike1: got my mail? 06:31 < Mike1> no mail yet 06:31 < Mike1> checking 06:33 < Mike1> cpt mmm.. so no spected date to come? 06:34 < holyolli> Mike1: unfortunately not, because i don't know, when i finish my flight training 06:34 < Mike1> holyolli: damn it :( 06:34 < holyolli> i can only estimate it - and that is the problem...i just need a weather cancel and i'm one day behind 06:35 < Mike1> grr.. 06:35 < Mike1> ping mnemoc 06:35 < holyolli> for the id-weekend i have time - this is obviously 06:36 < mnemoc> pong Mike1 06:36 < Mike1> mnemoc: look: == 22:32:56 =[5]=> Building base/openssl [0.9.7b 2.0.0-beta6]. 06:36 < Mike1> thats for you :) 06:36 < mnemoc> :D 06:36 < Mike1> mnemoc: as i promissed, tomorrow afternoon / n8 you will have the iso 06:36 < Mike1> mnemoc: revision 605. 06:38 < mnemoc> i'll be with the crappy-box in 14 hours,... and friday (now+15) 06:38 < mnemoc> can be ready for the first? 06:39 * holyolli still fights with 2.4kernel for alpha 06:39 < holyolli> *grrr* 06:39 < mnemoc> buy a x86 ;) 06:40 < holyolli> mnemoc: if you have that performance on an intel system ;-P 06:40 < holyolli> *flame* ;-) 06:40 < mnemoc> i can trade my x86 for your alpha :D ... no problem with 2.4 06:42 * mnemoc is happy with a regular performance intel system :-\ 06:45 < mnemoc> damn psp, i have to do from 5a to 10a for wednesday 06:47 < mnemoc> mmm... i think i'll have to reinstall crappy-box on friday 06:48 < mnemoc> Mike1: please mail me the location of the iso PLEASE ;-) 06:48 < mnemoc> good n8/moin 06:49 < holyolli> mnemoc: hasta manana 06:49 < mnemoc> hasta mañana holyolli 06:49 * holyolli hadn't the correct key available ;-) 06:49 < holyolli> ? 06:49 < holyolli> ah! 06:49 < holyolli> got it ;) 06:50 < mnemoc> 164 06:50 < mnemoc> alt+164/165 06:51 < mnemoc> does it work on alpha/linux? 06:51 < Mike1> gute nacht holyolli 06:52 < mnemoc> nacht? 06:52 < Mike1> mnemoc: manana te la doy.. sufre!! :P 06:52 < holyolli> my alpha is 5000 miles away...i'm here with my laptop 06:52 < mnemoc> :( 06:52 < holyolli> mnemoc: nacht is _exactly_ the word ;-) 06:52 * mnemoc writing down 06:52 < [n00kie]_> moin 06:52 -!- [n00kie]_ is now known as n00kie 06:52 < Mike1> [n00kie]_: hola 06:52 < holyolli> moin n00kie 06:52 < Mike1> n00kie: and bye 06:52 < n00kie> hola Mike1 :) 06:52 < n00kie> bye Mike1 :) 06:52 < mnemoc> bye 06:52 < n00kie> sleep well 06:52 * Mike1 going to bed 06:53 < n00kie> bye mnemoc sleep well too :) 06:53 < Mike1> jeg da. :) 06:53 < n00kie> hehe 06:53 < holyolli> n8 Mike1 06:53 * mnemoc follows Mike ;) 06:53 < n00kie> just stand up 06:53 < n00kie> Hi holyolli 06:54 < n00kie> damn 07:01 < blindcoder> moin 07:01 < holyolli> moin blindcoder 07:39 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@162.42.77.50] has quit ("Client exiting") 07:42 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@cm131.gamma147.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #rocklinux 07:51 < cchamilt> hu 07:51 < cchamilt> hi 07:56 < blindcoder> moin chris 07:56 < cchamilt> seen mike? 07:57 < blindcoder> 06:53 < Mike1> jeg da. :) 07:57 < blindcoder> an hour ago 07:57 < cchamilt> Hmm 07:57 < cchamilt> I was told to meet him now. 07:58 < cchamilt> Oh well. 07:58 < blindcoder> hmm... I'm sure he's just having some coffee then :) 07:58 < cchamilt> He is finishing up our amavisd-new to exim setup soon. 07:59 < cchamilt> Hey, have you seen suse's bootsplash? 07:59 < blindcoder> only the one from 7.3 and 8.0 08:00 < blindcoder> they're nice to look at, but IIRC there were some serious kernel hacks involved 08:00 < cchamilt> Have you done anything with rock and the fb stuff you were doing? 08:01 < blindcoder> yeah, but I still only get it working with rivafb... mostly because I simply don't get the vesafb >_< 08:02 < cchamilt> How hard is it to patch 2.4.21? 08:02 < blindcoder> but if you have a working frame buffer then it should be allright 08:02 < blindcoder> I have patches for /etc/rc.d/rc to write to /proc/progress and such. 08:03 < blindcoder> But I still have to port the thing to 2.4.21 08:03 < blindcoder> the currentt LPP is for 2.4.20 08:03 < cchamilt> I have vesafb. 08:03 < blindcoder> what gfx card? 08:03 < cchamilt> Most boxes I am targeting have ATI 8MB embeddeds. 08:04 < blindcoder> well... shouldn't be too much of a problem, as long as the FB runs and the image doesn't exceed 640x480 08:04 < cchamilt> I think most are mach64 based. 08:04 < cchamilt> 640x480 is max? 08:05 < blindcoder> no 08:05 < blindcoder> I have it running with 1280x1024 08:05 < cchamilt> Vesa goes much higher, is it a compatibility thing? 08:05 < blindcoder> basically, it's a kernel size thing 08:05 < blindcoder> since the picture goes statically into the kernel as a .h file 08:06 < cchamilt> oh. 08:07 < cchamilt> But there are huge image sizes with the distrib I saw. 08:07 < blindcoder> SuSE works differently... they load the images (.mng) from an initrd 08:07 < blindcoder> the LPP really is just a splash screen similiar to Win95/98 08:08 < cchamilt> Well I need something around 640 or 800 I guess. 08:08 < cchamilt> Lilo only support 640 08:08 < blindcoder> that's not a problem 08:08 < cchamilt> I want a consistent feel from lilo to the login. 08:09 < blindcoder> makes sense 08:09 < blindcoder> so 640x480 is what we should go after 08:09 < cchamilt> 800x600 would be best, but lilo already cut that down and grub patches seems to be too. 08:10 < cchamilt> The system goes into links and runs kind of kiosk mode. 08:10 < blindcoder> One thing is that printk(); should either be replaced by a stub, the image shouldn't be 480 i height or /dev/console ust point somewhere else 08:10 < cchamilt> OK. 08:11 < cchamilt> I think /dev/console should redirect to another vc 08:12 < blindcoder> or else the printk(); mess up the image 08:12 < cchamilt> I thought the suse one gets around this though. 08:13 < cchamilt> It did some kind of switching 08:13 < blindcoder> hmm... it just might... 08:13 < blindcoder> it opens a little console in the framebuffer to which /dev/console points 08:13 < blindcoder> but I haven't ever worked with that one 08:14 < cchamilt> It looked like you can hit a key to see the actual boot, but I don't know as their patches arent up to date. 08:14 < cchamilt> Lilo does that too. 08:15 < cchamilt> It would be cool to have centered logo and a console on the bottom off to the side. 08:16 < cchamilt> Heck, I will have to see about how directfb does things, maybe I could even do it on the login screen. 08:17 < cchamilt> 16 colors throughout (lilo constraint) is pretty tight though. 08:18 < cchamilt> Really would like 16bit 800x600, but I don't think any boot splash supports that. 08:20 < cchamilt> brb 08:21 < blindcoder> LPP supports 16Bit 08:22 < blindcoder> and a console under the Splash Screen 08:22 < blindcoder> under as in below 08:23 < cchamilt> Yeah, but I mean lilo or grub, neither support large vesa screens to help 'standardize' 08:23 < cchamilt> If they want safe standards, then why do graphics at all. 08:24 < blindcoder> well... 640x480 in 16 colors can be considered quite standard nowadays 08:24 < cchamilt> In 1985 it was too. 08:25 < cchamilt> I want to sell shiny things. 08:26 < blindcoder> sure, ugly things rarely sell :) 08:27 < blindcoder> so it will be lilo/grub patching after all 08:27 < cchamilt> It is just that I know the spec of each box we put our software on. 08:28 < cchamilt> Problem is that both have support for the low res, so not sure if patching higher is available. 08:29 < blindcoder> looking at the red hat boxing I'm sitting ATM I know that it's possible. A shiny sky-picture in the background of grub... 08:29 < cchamilt> Yeah gentoo has that too. 08:30 < cchamilt> But grub patches are hard to get ahold of. We aren't actually tracking grub well. 08:31 < cchamilt> Grub is kind of incubating right now. 08:31 < blindcoder> hmm... worst case, we can just install some gentoo and get the patches that way :) 08:33 < cchamilt> Yeah, but gentoo grub is 640x480 limited too it appears (looking at splashes). 08:33 < blindcoder> hmm... that stinks... 08:34 < blindcoder> sweet... LPP-2.4.20 applies almost perfectly (2 hunks are offset) to Linux-2.4.21 08:35 < cchamilt> I think lilo might actually do better splashes. Need to read some more. 08:36 < blindcoder> don't let me interrupt you :) 08:36 < cchamilt> No, this is something I would like your help with. 08:37 < cchamilt> I will go look at lpp 08:38 < blindcoder> https://lpp-themes.sourceforge.net/ 08:38 < cchamilt> thanks 08:55 < cchamilt> hmm 08:55 < cchamilt> do you have the install_init macro setup for this? 08:57 < cchamilt> Should be able to send failure on an error and translate run sequence - ie. s15 to 15% 08:59 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@ANancy-103-1-1-104.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 08:59 < DeElsasser> morje 09:01 < blindcoder> moin DeElsasser 09:01 < blindcoder> cchamilt: install_init? not that I know.... 09:18 < daja77> moin 09:20 < DeElsasser> moin daja77 09:21 < daja77> Auzain? 09:23 < daja77> *argl* still lots of compile errors in rock 09:24 < daja77> anyway build finished, will test when I had some more sleep ... 09:26 < daja77> cu later 09:26 < DeElsasser> Auzain ist tod 09:26 < DeElsasser> Es lebe DeElsasser 09:32 < cchamilt> ok 09:32 < cchamilt> blindcoder: interested in a sysinit macro change 09:41 < cchamilt> How do I add to the an init style menu? 09:46 < cchamilt> Wow, that was easy. 09:46 < cchamilt> clifford is cool. 09:47 < cchamilt> blindcoder: I have a patch that will make install_init send calls to /proc/progress, it is also available from the menu 09:48 < cchamilt> Now all I have to do is get the lpp tools to build and to make me a pretty progress screen. 09:50 < blindcoder> cchamilt: get the lpp-0.4.2, and my lpp-2420 patch (it still applies to 2.4.21) 09:50 < blindcoder> then, before building the kernel, you have to run theme_install from lpp-0.4.2 theme.tar.gz /patch/to/linux-src and activate both the LPP and framebuffer in the kernel config 09:51 < blindcoder> I just did 09:51 < blindcoder> theme_install matrix.tar.gz /usr/src/linux-2.4.21 09:51 < blindcoder> and then activated Linux Progress Patch and 3Dfx Framebuffer (that's my primary gfx card) 10:14 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: tfing, daja77, aszlig_, cchamilt, parabull, jose, kasc, mnemoc 10:15 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M284P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Broken pipe) 10:16 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M284P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 10:17 < rxr> hi 10:17 -!- Netsplit over, joins: daja77 10:18 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F883.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (zelazny.freenode.net (calvino.freenode.net <- clarke.freenode.net))) 10:18 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F883.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:18 -!- tfing_ [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has joined #rocklinux 10:18 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@cm131.gamma147.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #rocklinux 10:18 -!- jose [~jose@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux 10:18 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090B259.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:20 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: cchamilt, jose, blindcoder, tfing_, kasc 10:21 -!- mnemoc [~mnemoc@200.75.27.77] has joined #rocklinux 10:21 -!- parabull [~parabull@212.152.174.162] has joined #rocklinux 10:21 -!- Netsplit over, joins: blindcoder, tfing_, cchamilt, jose, kasc 10:28 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has joined #rocklinux 10:31 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M284P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Broken pipe) 10:31 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M284P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 10:37 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: cchamilt, jose, blindcoder, tfing_, kasc 10:38 < rxr> tagged 2.0.0-beta6 10:39 -!- DeElsasser_ [~DeElsasse@ANancy-103-1-5-160.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 10:41 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@ANancy-103-1-1-104.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit (Connection timed out) 10:44 < DeElsasser_> re 10:46 < rxr> hello DeElsasser_ 10:50 -!- tfing [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has joined #rocklinux 10:50 -!- Netsplit over, joins: blindcoder, cchamilt, jose, kasc 10:53 * DeElsasser_ is away: livraison 10:55 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M284P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Broken pipe) 10:55 < rxr> svn:// on gsmp.tfh-berlin.de enabled 10:56 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M284P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 10:56 -!- daja77 [daja@rotuma.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:56 < cchamilt> orp 10:56 < cchamilt> opp 10:56 < cchamilt> eep 10:56 < blindcoder> chris? 10:56 < blindcoder> whose strangulating you? 10:56 < cchamilt> Yeah? 10:57 < cchamilt> I have an lpp ready to be tested. 10:57 < cchamilt> I think. 10:57 < cchamilt> It needs a theme for it and a theme selector. 10:58 < cchamilt> To use it, one has to copy the pkg_linux* in its directory to a target 10:58 < cchamilt> You also have to tell sysinit to be lpp in config. 10:59 -!- daja77 [daja@134.109.185.55] has joined #rocklinux 10:59 < rxr> hi daja77 10:59 < cchamilt> We need a progress theme for rock. 10:59 < blindcoder> yes 11:00 < blindcoder> but that's basically just a picture. I think the ROCK Logo would be fine for that 11:00 < cchamilt> I will be doing one for our product, but I have no idea what to use as a them for either. 11:00 < blindcoder> rxr: I'm currently restarting the build due to tthe tagging of -beta6 11:00 < cchamilt> hehe ROCK logo... 11:00 < blindcoder> rxr: any wishes? :) 11:01 < cchamilt> blindcoder: would you like this package? 11:01 < cchamilt> to take over I mean.. 11:01 < blindcoder> cchamilt: sure, send it over 11:01 < cchamilt> Need you to test it anyway! 11:02 < blindcoder> cchamilt: I'm also currently preparing the updated LPP to send to Tobias Mathes (the current LPP Maintainer) 11:02 < blindcoder> cchamilt: hehe :) 11:03 < blindcoder> I'm ready for anything :D 11:03 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: DeElsasser_, Aard, Mike1, aszlig 11:04 < rxr> blindcoder: what whishes ? For your build ? 11:04 < rxr> or for the ROCK LPP logo ? ;-) 11:05 < cchamilt> OK it is on its way 11:06 < cchamilt> drock should make lpp default :) 11:07 < cchamilt> It has a bare bones .desc and lpp has no real structure so it has to use a custmain 11:07 < cchamilt> sysvinit not tested, so realy it could all be crap. 11:08 < rxr> is it possible to build a LPP enabled kernel but not to use it? 11:09 < rxr> say only enable it when you know your system is working correct ? 11:10 < blindcoder> rxr: the build. I suck at graphics 11:10 < blindcoder> rxr: the LPP only kicks in if your framebuffer runs 11:12 < cchamilt> blindcoder: add LIBS = -lpng -lz -lm to the fblogo make... 11:12 < blindcoder> but I don't think it would be hard to use a kernel parameter 11:13 < blindcoder> cchamilt: okay, put into ~/REMEMBER 11:13 < blindcoder> cchamilt: but I won't be able to actually test it within the next... 5-6 hours, as I'm still at work :) 11:14 < cchamilt> No prob, I may have it actually working by then... 11:15 < blindcoder> hehe 11:15 < cchamilt> fb based appliances are cool. 11:15 -!- Netsplit over, joins: DeElsasser_, aszlig, Aard, Mike1 11:18 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: aszlig 11:21 < blindcoder> hmm... the package looks good 11:22 < blindcoder> okay, I'll run a pentium4 optimised generic build with sysv_lpp 11:22 < cchamilt> :) 11:22 < blindcoder> I'll use lain theme for the time being 11:23 < cchamilt> I should add a theme loader into pkg_linux that can load it in 11:24 < cchamilt> I am not sure where else things like that would be decided. 11:24 -!- Netsplit over, joins: aszlig 11:24 < blindcoder> I would just put a theme into [D] of linux24 11:25 < blindcoder> and apply that, hosted somewhere on rocklinux.org 11:25 < blindcoder> with a reference to it in the config.hlp of the lpp package 11:27 < cchamilt> But most themes don't need lpp, so it should be tied to theme I think. 11:28 < blindcoder> hmm... oh... you meant the distinction between lpp themes, icewm themes, kde themes and the like? 11:28 < cchamilt> Oh sorry my mind wandered mid sentence 11:29 < cchamilt> I meant most targets don't need lpp 11:29 < cchamilt> alah bootdisk 11:31 < blindcoder> hmm... right 11:31 < blindcoder> but those targets usually use package including rather than package excluding 11:32 < blindcoder> so first they tag the packages they want, and then they exclude everything else, so I don't worry about that 11:33 < cchamilt> so we exclude linx24? 11:33 < blindcoder> no, we exclude lpp 11:34 < cchamilt> but targets can have downloads too 11:34 < cchamilt> hmm. 11:35 < cchamilt> Where do you want to put the install_theme call? 11:35 < blindcoder> in the lpp.conf custmain 11:35 < cchamilt> after linux has been built? 11:36 < blindcoder> hrm 11:36 < blindcoder> you got me there... 11:36 < cchamilt> Yeah, have to think how to do this 11:36 < blindcoder> OTOH 11:36 < blindcoder> I htink I know... 11:36 < blindcoder> a patch 11:36 < cchamilt> :) 11:37 < blindcoder> a simple patch, it's as easy as that 11:37 < cchamilt> fblogo_patch? 11:37 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090B259.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:37 < blindcoder> we just prepare a patch for our logo and add it to linux24 patchfiles 11:37 < blindcoder> that way we can do it from the lpp package 11:38 < cchamilt> Then it can be added to any target next to the lpp patch in the pkg_linux* 11:38 < blindcoder> right 11:41 < cchamilt> So do we just put a var add to patchfiles for $base/target/?$target?/theme.patch 11:41 < blindcoder> that should be enough 11:41 < cchamilt> Notice how I am target oriented 11:41 < blindcoder> that way, we can also have different logos for different targets 11:42 < cchamilt> OK, I'll try it here. 11:42 < blindcoder> i.e. maybe a black and white for minimal, a flashy colored one for a general game taget, a few NES screenshots for cliffs NES-Emulator-Target, the "normal" ROCK Logo for generic... 11:43 -!- kasc [~kasc@p509090A9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:46 < cchamilt> Yep. 11:46 < daja77> re 11:46 < cchamilt> OK, I will now make a theme for my demo system. 11:46 < cchamilt> hi 11:47 < daja77> hi cchamilt 11:47 * blindcoder will have lunch in 10 mins 11:48 < cchamilt> I will have to start concentrating on work here a bit. 11:49 < esden> hi all 11:49 < daja77> hi esden 11:49 < cchamilt> hi 11:49 < rxr> cu 11:49 < cchamilt> dont have enough fonts in gimp 11:50 < cchamilt> bye 11:50 < esden> cu rxr 11:50 < daja77> cu rxr 11:50 < esden> cchamilt: are you a designer? ;-) 11:50 < blindcoder> moin esden 11:50 * daja77 thinks of driving rxr nuts by wasting some cds 11:50 < cchamilt> scriptfu 11:50 < blindcoder> daja77: harr 11:51 < cchamilt> I want something easy, but not something cheezy 12:06 < daja77> ... ok just using cdrw to test 12:18 < daja77> *lol* rxr comments on commits are funny ... 12:23 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:37 < netrunner> brrr cold here. 12:46 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B16C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:01 < esden> does anyone like addison wesley books? 13:01 < esden> if yes you can perhups find something to download here : https://www.vnunet.de/testticker/freedownloads/freedownloads.html 13:02 < daja77> ah someone posted that link yesterday ... didn't know it were add-wes books 13:06 < netrunner> esden: bs? 13:09 < esden> netrunner: ack ... already sitting in the right place ;-) 13:10 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F883.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: blindcod1r!blindcoder@pD9E4F7DC.dip.t-dialin.net))) 13:10 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4F7DC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:10 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 13:14 < netrunner> esden: power supply nearby? 13:14 < esden> yes ... I have power 13:14 < daja77> rxr: ahem you added linux25 to rock but not to default grub conf ... 13:20 < Freak> can one use current 2.5 w/o danger? 13:20 < Freak> like.. i dont mind it crashing 13:20 < Freak> it just shouldnt crash my hardware 13:21 < Freak> well theres no real answer to that i guess 13:21 < Freak> hmm "2.4 might crash your hardware as well" ok i get it. 13:22 * Freak runs and hides 13:22 < daja77> bye bye Freak 13:22 < esden> Freak: you like monologues, right? 13:22 < daja77> *gg* 13:23 < Freak> ;) 13:25 < blindcoder> Freak: well... let's put it this way.... the changelog claims that the ide-filesystem-destroyer-bug is gone 13:26 < daja77> cos all the logs are destroyed *ggg* 13:26 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M284P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:26 < Freak> blindcoder: hehe 13:26 < Freak> (seriously? ;) 13:27 < daja77> esden: your monologues are longer ;-) 13:27 < esden> daja77: :P 13:27 < blindcoder> seriously, it claims it gone 13:27 < daja77> or should I say your mom's monologues 13:27 < esden> daja77: I did not say that I do not like monologues ... I only asked if Freak likes that ... 13:27 * daja77 hides 13:28 < Freak> esden :) 13:28 < esden> daja77: no ... these are depricated 13:28 < daja77> hehe 13:29 < Freak> blindcoder: I don't follow the lkml (or the changelogs) so you can tell me every kind of shit and I don't know if to believe you or not. so has there been some bug in ide code really? 13:30 < Freak> another thing: you guys know if this "Revolution OS" movie they sell at thinkgeek [https://www.thinkgeek.com/books/nonfiction/5dd5/] is the same as "The Code" (german title "Codename: Linux") they aired on arte? 13:30 < Freak> (ok the original titles don't actually correspond.. 13:31 < Freak> dang why'd I always miss the ) 13:32 < netrunner> Freak: you never smile at the end. 13:33 < daja77> netrunner: hehe this is caused by debian usage 13:33 * daja77 runs away 13:34 < Freak> heh 13:34 < daja77> sorry cheap pun ... 13:34 * Freak puts on his inflamable underwear 13:35 < daja77> :) 13:35 < netrunner> Freak: I really do not care about your underwear. 13:35 < daja77> netrunner: you mean you start flaming his head? 13:35 * -> esden takes his flamethrower and aims at Freak's head ... 13:36 * netrunner supplys a lighter 13:36 < esden> do you wear your underwear on your head? *VBEG* 13:36 < daja77> *rofl* 13:36 < netrunner> esden: daja does, apparently 13:36 < esden> thnks netrunner 13:36 -!- fake [fake@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:36 * netrunner looks at daja 13:36 < esden> hi fake 13:36 < fake> hi there 13:37 < netrunner> hi fake 13:37 < daja77> hi fake 13:37 < fake> i'm trapped in a lab @ sun -_- ;) 13:37 < esden> fake: we are trying out inflammable underware ... do you want to play with us? 13:37 < Ge0rG> daja77: are you going to magdeburg today? 13:37 < daja77> fake: do we have to rescue you? 13:37 < netrunner> fake: better than a jail without sun light no? 13:37 < daja77> Ge0rG: yepp 13:37 < Freak> I dont actually need that kinda underwear 13:37 < Ge0rG> whoops... thought it would be thursday 13:37 < fake> with the underwear, yes, but nothing more! 13:37 < Freak> debian makes me completely inflamable head-to-toe ;P 13:37 < Ge0rG> daja77: see you there ;) 13:38 < netrunner> Freak: would you stop bothering me with your underwear? 13:38 < Freak> netrunner: underwear underwear underwear 13:38 < daja77> great, should get my speech ready and start driving ... 13:38 < fake> daja77: aehm... maybe in a year or two. when i crashed all the blades, enterprises, ultras and whatever here 13:38 < netrunner> Freak: see, I don't wear any ;) 13:38 < Freak> hehe 13:39 < fake> Ge0rG: i have seen welle:e live 2 times now 13:39 < Ge0rG> fake: they are cool :) 13:39 < fake> Ge0rG: they absolutely rule 13:39 < daja77> fake: install rock on them 13:39 < fake> rock c64 port? 13:39 < Ge0rG> hehe 13:40 < fake> georg: did you fetch their new album already? 13:40 < Ge0rG> fake: nur tote frauen sind schön? 13:40 < daja77> fake: c64 port on a sun, wtf 13:41 < esden> daja77: didn't you know that sun is using c64 as their servers? 13:41 < Ge0rG> hm... context mismatch detected ;) 13:41 < esden> they rely on the real hardware ... and not the crap they produce ... 13:42 < esden> *G* 13:42 < daja77> *lol* 13:42 < Ge0rG> daja77: will you bring along current rock 2 isos? ;) 13:42 < esden> fake is running beowulf on c64 to emulate a sun blade ... or enterprise 13:43 < fake> georg> ack. 13:43 < daja77> Ge0rG: yepp just installed them on a laptop some minutes ago 13:43 < Ge0rG> fake: yeah, I've got it 13:44 < Ge0rG> daja77: I badly need a current distro with xfree 4.3 and stuff for my new banias based notebook *:) 13:44 < fake> have you watched the "1000 weisse lilien" video? 13:44 < Ge0rG> fake: nope 13:44 < Freak> ? 13:44 < daja77> Ge0rG: bring three cds and I can burn it for you 13:45 < Ge0rG> daja77: hm... how about a crosslink cable? ;) 13:45 < fake> georg: it's on the datatrack of the cd, and it is really worth watching! 13:45 < Freak> i asked this before.. but can I crosscompile rock on a duron(x86) for a g4(ppc)? 13:45 < daja77> if you have one ... 13:46 * Freak has one! 13:46 < Ge0rG> fake: I've got only the promo version 13:46 < daja77> Freak: in general yes, but rxr said some pakages can only be compiled native 13:46 < Freak> hmmmm 13:46 * Ge0rG doesn't believe in the cd production industry 13:52 -!- huebi [~huebi@pD9E1C6B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:52 < fake> hi huebi! 13:52 < huebi> Moin 13:52 < huebi> :-) 13:52 * fake is getting nervous, need nicotine... 13:53 < huebi> identd is funktional ... again. 13:53 < huebi> brb 13:53 -!- huebi [~huebi@pD9E1C6B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 13:53 < fake> cant leave... cant leave.... must .. stay... 13:55 -!- huebi [~huebi@pD9E1C6B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:55 < huebi> re 13:56 < daja77> hi huebi 13:56 < huebi> hi daja77 13:58 < fake> haha, they give their servers funny names here... obatzta, masskruag... 13:58 < Freak> ? 13:59 < daja77> *lol* 13:59 < esden> *rofl* 13:59 < huebi> weisswuarst ? 13:59 < esden> hi huebi ... sbtw ;-) 13:59 < daja77> no wonder they think all the linux users want solaris instead 14:00 * netrunner wants weiswuerscht. now. with dwb. 14:00 < Freak> whom are we actually talking about? 14:00 < fake> fuchzgal is here, too 14:00 < daja77> Freak: Sun Microsystems iirc 14:00 < netrunner> fake: where are those servers located? I mean geographically? 14:00 < fake> and "hosenbergl" ;) 14:01 < daja77> *roflmao* 14:01 < Freak> netrunner: bahamas 14:01 < fake> netrunner: you have a half guess 14:02 < netrunner> fake: I'd rather like to have a hoibe 14:02 < Freak> hehe 14:02 < esden> off ... home 14:02 < esden> cu guys 14:02 < Freak> cu 14:02 < daja77> cu esden 14:03 < fake> netrunner: good guess. 14:04 * DeElsasser_ is back (gone 03:15:02) 14:04 < fake> bye esden... 14:05 < Freak> re DeElsasser_ 14:05 < DeElsasser_> re all 14:06 * fake is getting a cigarette, ican't take anymore' laters! 14:06 < daja77> wb DeElsasser_ 14:06 < Freak> hehe fake: weakling. 14:06 * Freak . o O ( chocolate ice cream.. ) 14:07 < DeElsasser_> daja77: wb? 14:07 < daja77> welcome back ... 14:07 < Freak> DeElsasser_: welcome back 14:08 * DeElsasser_ add this in his dictionnary 14:10 -!- DeElsasser_ is now known as DeElsasser 14:11 < Freak> d'ou viens-tu dans l'alsace? 14:12 < DeElsasser> Niederhaslach 14:12 < Freak> uh.. wherever that is :) 14:13 < DeElsasser> entre Schirmeck et Strasbourg 14:13 < Freak> ah bien 14:13 < Freak> brb 14:14 < DeElsasser> ich frag lieber nicht was brb ist... 14:14 < daja77> be right back 14:15 < DeElsasser> daja77: merci 14:16 < Freak> DeElsasser: t'es dans irc le premiere fois? 14:18 < DeElsasser> Freak: no but I have problems with english, then brb, lol, imho... 14:36 < fake> re 14:36 < fake> ph34r m4 w34kn355 14:36 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:37 < jsaw> re 14:40 < blindcoder> fake: not enough coffee today? 14:41 < fake> the amount of nicotine needed is directly proportional to the amount of caffeine in my blood 14:42 < jsaw> hehe, ACK 14:42 * blindcoder hands fake a package of cigarettes 14:43 * jsaw grabs a cup of coffee now... 14:43 < blindcoder> sorry, was my last one :) 14:43 -!- parabull [~parabull@212.152.174.162] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 14:44 < jsaw> now rolling some tobacco... 14:44 * jsaw is away: coffee break 14:45 < rolla> re 14:51 < rolla> rene are you here? 14:53 < DeElsasser> hi jsaw 14:53 < rolla> damn this 1.7 is broekn bad 14:56 -!- pg [pg@pger.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:56 < blindcoder> 1.7? 2.0.0-beta6 just got tagged 14:57 < pg> hi 15:02 * jsaw is back (gone 00:17:40) 15:02 < jsaw> hi DeElsasser 15:10 < DeElsasser> jsaw: I must thank you for my new nick, i'm very happy :-) 15:13 < fake> hrmpf 15:13 < fake> i should have given that server a nicer name 15:13 < fake> i didn't know it will be emailable from the outside 15:14 * fake 's new mail address: 15:14 < fake> fake@paula.germany.sun.com 15:14 < fake> DOUH 15:17 -!- mnemoc [~mnemoc@200.75.27.77] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:19 < rolla> blindcoder: I have 1.7 install on my build box 15:19 < rolla> fake: you work for SUN now? 15:21 < fake> rolla: no, i work for a firm that works for sun 15:21 < fake> so indirectly, yes ;) 15:22 < rolla> cool 15:26 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs2.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 15:26 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs2.xs4all.nl] has quit (Client Quit) 15:29 < daja77> *argl* don't tell me that the standard module in rock only works for one network card 15:31 < rolla> ? 15:33 < daja77> nice 2.4.21 hangs when pcmcia card is removed and plugged in again 15:34 < rolla> suck 15:34 < rolla> daja77: you could have my problem my stage2 complains of a kernel bug 15:43 -!- dreamind_ [~dreamind@x26.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:44 -!- dreamind_ is now known as dreamind 16:03 < DeElsasser> daja77: good news, ich komme nach Karlsruhe :-) 16:06 < daja77> DeElsasser: cool 16:08 < rolla> daja77: have you heard of ide-opis ? 16:08 < daja77> rolla: hmm interesting 16:08 < daja77> ide-opies? 16:09 < rolla> nope 16:09 < rolla> maybe ide-ops 16:09 < rolla> that is what I have a kernel bug in :( 16:09 * daja77 packing 16:09 < dreamind> Hi =) 16:14 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@x26.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit (":x") 16:30 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M284P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 16:43 * daja77 off to magdeburg now 16:43 < daja77> cu 16:57 < jsaw> cu 16:57 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 17:08 -!- huebi_ [~huebi@p50817FAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:09 < n00kie> Mike1: ping 17:13 < DeElsasser> salut bisame... 17:14 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@ANancy-103-1-5-160.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ("Client exiting") 17:29 -!- huebi [~huebi@pD9E1C6B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:35 < rolla> yawn 17:55 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M284P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:04 * fake off, bye 18:04 -!- fake [fake@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("BitchX: the new hardcore, psycho, nitro client -- in a can") 18:13 < jose> good morning * 18:16 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B16C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exciting") 18:16 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B16C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:20 < rolla> re jose 18:51 -!- link_ [~sascha@pop-mu-4-1-dialup-208.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 18:53 * blindcoder back 18:56 -!- link_ [~sascha@pop-mu-4-1-dialup-208.freesurf.ch] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:03 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 19:04 < A-Tui> hi 19:50 < rolla> damn boot base 19:51 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M284P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 19:53 -!- DeElsasser [~chatzilla@Mix-Nancy-106-4-155.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 19:53 < rolla> anyone here? 19:54 < DeElsasser> yo 19:54 < rolla> DeElsasser: how much do you know about the bootdisk target? 19:54 < netrunner> rolla: wtp? 19:54 < DeElsasser> hum, I do one yestersday, was my first 19:55 < rolla> netrunner: I am having it complain about no initrd= on boot of the cd 19:55 < rolla> Creating initrd filesystem image: 19:55 < rolla> -> Creating temporary files. 19:55 < rolla> !> No free loopback device found! 19:55 < rolla> happens during the build 19:55 < rolla> never seen that one beofre 19:55 < DeElsasser> I had the same problem, rebuild and then it works 19:56 < netrunner> rolla: and, do you have free loopbacks? (hard limited, see limits.h iirc) 19:56 < DeElsasser> I suppose there are too much src.xxx files, no? 19:57 < rolla> netrunner: hmm I am not sure what would be using them all never had trouble with the build before 19:57 < netrunner> rolla: I guess that mount magic that rock does during build to get the src dir inside the chroot consumes loopbacks 19:58 < rolla> hmm but I have only run 2 builds so far 19:58 < n00kie> Mike1: ping 19:59 < DeElsasser> rolla try ./script/Cleanup 19:59 < rolla> DeElsasser: just did that trying again 20:00 < rolla> DeElsasser: no good 20:00 < DeElsasser> what version of rock-src have you? 20:01 < rolla> I just did a svn update ;) 20:02 < DeElsasser> sorry, can't help you... 20:03 < DeElsasser> i have an other problem (not serious for me), linux25 doesn't build, I remove it and restart build, (lost log .errr sorry) :-] 20:04 < rolla> DeElsasser: it doesn't really build for anyone 20:04 < DeElsasser> i'm about building minimal (if it interrest somebody...) 20:04 < rolla> it is crap that should not be in the stable 20:05 < netrunner> I had another problem: corrupt packages.db. I just rebuilt the ISO and hope it works now. 20:05 < rolla> :) 20:05 < rolla> I have stage 5 lilo not building on my boot build 20:08 < DeElsasser> what means crap? 20:08 < netrunner> rolla: is it always lilo? 20:08 < rolla> netrunner: yes it is allways lilo 20:09 < netrunner> DeElsasser: the end of all food you eat. 20:09 < rolla> it just started with the new version of lilo 20:09 < rolla> netrunner: ;) 20:09 < rolla> DeElsasser: scheisse 20:09 < netrunner> rolla: tss 20:10 < rolla> netrunner: ? 20:10 < netrunner> rolla: the words you say ... 20:11 < rolla> :) 20:11 < DeElsasser> I build to learn more about rocklinux, I like this distro 20:11 < rolla> netrunner: I was just explaining what the word ment 20:11 < netrunner> crap f**ck ... now that cd is again corrupted damn orkscum :/ 20:11 < rolla> DeElsasser: that is good :) 20:12 -!- jose [~jose@196.40.45.146] has quit ("[BX] *PHEAR MY BITCHX-NESS!* BOW TO ME!") 20:12 < DeElsasser> I try so many other distros, and never found what I want, now I can do my own distro: fantastic 20:14 * netrunner just consumed 48 toffifee in 0.5h 20:14 < rolla> DeElsasser: that is the idea 20:14 < rolla> netrunner: that is not healthy for you 20:15 < DeElsasser> I know that it's a long way to go, but I find this good... 20:15 < rolla> I am starting my minumal build 20:15 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9588B21.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:15 < rolla> DeElsasser: :) 20:15 < tsa> hi all. 20:15 < rolla> DeElsasser: you are from france? 20:15 < DeElsasser> rolla: yo 20:16 < rolla> intresting 20:16 < DeElsasser> why? 20:16 < rolla> don't get to speak to many french people mostly germans and south americas 20:17 < rolla> then again I am the odd ball here being the only one of my kind 20:17 < DeElsasser> das man hier auch mal deutch sprechen kann, ist auch gut fur mich weil english :-(( 20:18 < rolla> ja 20:18 < rolla> DeElsasser: I am american so english is my best I also know a little german 20:18 < DeElsasser> rolla: i don't understand your last words 20:18 < n00kie> bonjour madame 20:19 < rolla> hmmm 20:19 < DeElsasser> then again I am the odd ball here being the only one of my kind? 20:19 < rolla> ich sprechen kleine deutch 20:19 < rolla> DeElsasser: I am the only american here that I know of 20:20 < DeElsasser> ah bon? 20:20 < n00kie> rolla: "Ich spreche ein bisschen Deutsch" :) 20:20 < rolla> n00kie: :) 20:20 < rolla> danke 20:21 < DeElsasser> stage 3 coreutils... 20:21 < rolla> n00kie: my high school teacher taught very bad german I have learned 20:21 < DeElsasser> must go see you tomorrow... 20:22 < DeElsasser> rolla: what time have you? 20:22 < netrunner> rolla: enough to order beer :) 20:22 < DeElsasser> netrunner: lol 20:23 < rolla> netrunner: ja 20:23 < rolla> DeElsasser: 13:25 20:23 < n00kie> rolla: hehe 20:23 < netrunner> DeElsasser: ou c'est suffice pour commande une biere :) 20:24 < rolla> == 08:20:31 =[0]=> Building base/glibc23 [2.3.2 2.0.0-beta6]. 20:24 < DeElsasser> oula 20:24 < DeElsasser> netrunner: c'est suffisant pour commander une biere 20:24 * netrunner 's teacher always thought I have no hand for languages ... not knowing that would be my job later .. java, c, perl :) 20:25 < netrunner> DeElsasser: oh, je m'excuse :) 20:26 < DeElsasser> netrunner: on ne s'excuse pas, on demande pardon ;-) 20:26 < netrunner> DeElsasser: never mind :) 20:27 < DeElsasser> je te pardonne 20:27 < DeElsasser> va en paix ... 20:27 < DeElsasser> mon fils 20:27 < netrunner> je n'avai parlai le france par 5 ans :/ 20:27 < netrunner> and that didn't made it better :) 20:27 < DeElsasser> jetzt muss ich aber gehen 20:28 * netrunner thinks it's fun to know at least some words in a bunch of languages 20:28 < netrunner> DeElsasser: ciao, au revoir 20:28 < DeElsasser> servus 20:29 -!- DeElsasser [~chatzilla@Mix-Nancy-106-4-155.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.23 [Mozilla rv:1.3.1/20030613]") 20:35 < rolla> netrunner: american teachers suck 20:38 < rolla> == 08:37:57 =[1]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.21 2.0.0-beta6]. 20:52 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802903.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:00 < rolla> everyone is leaving :( 21:08 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B16C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:09 -!- Freak [freak@p508B345F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:15 < rolla> Freak: 21:18 < Freak> rolla< 21:19 * Freak diving under the desk to open his box 21:19 < rolla> why? 21:20 < Freak> why what 21:20 < Freak> why open the box? 21:20 < rolla> yes 21:20 < Freak> because either the controller or the cable is b0Rken and so I get erras all the time. 21:20 < rolla> suck 21:20 < Freak> now I'm gonna stick those harddiskdrives inta da slowa pc 21:20 < rolla> Freak: I get errors all the time from rock 21:21 < Freak> yea well yano 21:21 < Freak> its like.. 21:21 < Freak> i boot up once 21:21 < rolla> I call them rbugs 21:21 < Freak> this and that segfaults 21:21 < Freak> i reboot 21:21 < Freak> its fixed 21:21 < Freak> but something else segs 21:21 < Freak> then i reboot 21:21 < Freak> xawtv and xterm seg 21:21 < Freak> and so on. 21:21 < Freak> beeship everything. 21:21 < Freak> bbl 21:22 < rolla> okay 21:25 < rxr> re 21:26 < rolla> re rxr 21:26 < rolla> I a very intresting bug for you 21:27 < rxr> rolla: you are a bug ? 21:28 < rolla> that is not nice 21:28 < rolla> kernel bug at ide-iops.c:1261! 21:28 * tsa creating patch 21:28 < rolla> I get that when I try to load stage2 21:28 < rolla> tsa: a rolla patch? 21:28 < tsa> --- old 2003-06-24 21:28:01.000000000 +0200 21:28 < tsa> +++ new 2003-06-24 21:28:02.000000000 +0200 21:28 < tsa> @@ -1 +0,0 @@ 21:28 < tsa> -rolla 21:28 < tsa> *G* 21:29 < rxr> rolla: sorry - just that you wrote this - I could not resist ;-) 21:29 < rolla> ja 21:29 < tsa> hehe 21:29 < rolla> do you know what ide-iops is? 21:29 < rxr> rolla: a file in the linux kernel ... 21:30 < rolla> well have you seen this error before? 21:30 < n00kie> Good night guys :) 21:30 -!- n00kie is now known as [n00kie] 21:31 < rxr> rolla: nope - what mainboard / chipset do you have ? 21:31 < rolla> rxr it is a dell laptop 21:31 < rolla> with PII processor 21:31 < rolla> I will have to boot 1.7 on it to see more 21:34 < rolla> rxr you think it will boot fine on another box? 21:35 < rxr> rolla: you use a selfbuild one ? 21:35 < rxr> (but no matter of the answer: yes: it should boot find on most other boxes ine this matrix) 21:39 < rolla> rxr yes it is self built 21:40 < rolla> I have run a boot build without any optimazation so maybe that will fix it 21:41 -!- amery [~amery@200.75.4.104] has joined #rocklinux 21:43 < rolla> -> Not building using dietlibc! 21:43 < rolla> have to love that statement 21:43 < amery> hi :) 21:43 -!- amery is now known as mnemoc 21:43 < rxr> rolla: hm - the no optimization should not make such a difference - you can try ... 21:43 < rxr> hi mnemoc 21:44 * mnemoc using irsii first time :) 21:44 < mnemoc> Mike1: ping 21:44 < tfing> irssi i suppose 21:44 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EABDB6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:44 < mnemoc> :) 21:45 < mnemoc> how do i 'change windows'? 21:45 < mnemoc> fix:window 21:46 < rolla> rxr: I will try else I find it odd that 1.5 and 1.7 have installed on this laptop with no problems 21:46 < tcr> moin all 21:46 < tfing> alt+1,2,3... or ctrl+p,n or alt+a or /window 1,2,3... 21:52 < rolla> rxr you think it is a chipset issue? 21:57 < tcr> hey mnemoc. I guess your forgot about the case? ;) 21:59 < mnemoc> nope :) 22:00 < mnemoc> i have the info 22:00 < mnemoc> but i dont know how to said what i see 22:02 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802663.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:02 < tcr> mnemoc: query 22:08 < Freak> so.. 22:08 < Freak> jetzt läuft hier wieder die leise, langsame 333er celeron-kiste. 22:09 < Freak> brb 22:09 -!- Freak [freak@p508B345F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exciting") 22:13 -!- [n00kie] [~n00kie@M284P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:14 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B2C1D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:16 -!- [n00kie] [~n00kie@M279P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 22:16 < netrunner> re n00kie, freak 22:17 < netrunner> ... and still nobody can tell me how to recreate a package.db, or where it is created? 22:18 < Freak> re 22:25 < mnemoc> Mike1: ping :( 22:26 < rolla> mnemoc: he is out to lunch 22:27 < mnemoc> how many cows? 22:27 < rolla> not sure 22:29 < mnemoc> i have a class now... cu 22:35 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EABDB6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Mess with the best, die like the rest!") 22:36 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has quit ("leaving") 22:44 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 22:47 < rolla> = 10:46:35 =[3]=> Building base/dietlibc [0.22 2.0.0-beta6]. 22:47 < rolla> -> Building this package with dietlibc (statically). 22:47 < rolla> -> Not building using dietlibc! 22:47 * rolla cheers again 22:50 < rolla> maybe I will take your isos 22:52 < rxr> re 22:53 < rxr> rolla: this messasge is just a echo_status mismatch - nothing to worry about (me fixing ...) 22:53 < rolla> :) 23:01 < rxr> hm - a real fixed woudl result in rearranging the dietlibc wrapper 23:01 < rxr> I'll not yet do this - but I changed the status prints ... 23:02 < rxr> rolla: feel free to svn up ... 23:02 < rolla> rxr in a bit when this build is done :) 23:02 < rolla> or is it a big change? 23:03 < rxr> rolla: this was a tiny echo_status only change 23:03 < rolla> okay then it can wait 23:03 < rxr> you can svn up this packages/base/dietlibc only ... 23:03 < rolla> okay 23:26 < rxr> I merge current svn HEAD into the 2.0.0-beta6 tag I did this morning 23:26 < rxr> any objections to do a -beta6 releas now ? 23:26 < tsa> no. 23:27 < rxr> tsa: no objections ? 23:27 < tsa> yes. 23:27 < rxr> wow - how does it comes ? 23:27 < tsa> no counter-arguments here.. ;) 23:28 < rxr> ok - so I release now - and then I can apply most of the queued not that tested patches from the list ... 23:29 < tsa> ..but i have a suggestion to make.. 23:29 < esden> hi all!!! 23:29 < tsa> what do you think about adding "--sysconfdir=$root/etc/ssh" to the openssh package? 23:30 < tsa> (instead of just /etc) 23:31 < rxr> tsa: what is the standard - maybe SMP has some comments ? 23:31 < rxr> hi esden 23:31 < tsa> rxr: i don't know 23:32 < rxr> tsa: esden: Mike1:I'll label svn HEAD as -rc1. 23:32 < tsa> ack 23:32 < Mike1> ack 23:32 < tsa> SMP: are you awake? 23:34 < SMP> kind of 23:34 < rxr> hi SMP 23:34 < tsa> ah.. 23:34 < tsa> hi SMP 23:34 < tsa> <tsa> what do you think about adding "--sysconfdir=$root/etc/ssh" to the openssh package? 23:34 < tsa> <tsa> (instead of just /etc) 23:34 < tsa> <rxr> tsa: what is the standard - maybe SMP has some comments ? 23:34 < SMP> I'm in favor of /etc/ssh 23:35 < SMP> I thought this had been done in 1.5 already 23:35 < SMP> OpenBSD also uses /etc/ssh ... 23:36 < esden> rxr: nice to know 23:36 < esden> hi SMP 23:37 < tsa> hi esden 23:37 < netrunner> wonderful. I think I remove the build and restart :( 23:37 < tsa> hehe 23:40 < esden> netrunner: why? 23:40 < netrunner> esden: packages.db gets corrupted and I do not know why. I think I have some odd files in my build dir. 23:41 < netrunner> .o( maybe I should not always svn up during build? ) 23:41 < esden> netrunner: that can be ... ... but the problem should be analysed .. perhups it is a bug that has to be fixed? 23:41 < esden> netrunner: that may be a problem ... yes 23:41 < Freak> any idea of configuring X for two keyboards (with different layouts and probably even different Xmodmaps)? 23:42 < esden> Freak: you are a Freak ;-) 23:42 < Freak> ;) 23:42 * -> esden has no idea how to do that 23:42 < Freak> ack 23:42 < Freak> me neither. 23:42 < Freak> same goes for google. 23:43 < esden> Freak: you are not Freak enough ;-) 23:43 < Freak> #xfree86 is totally silent over my question ;) 23:43 < Freak> tell me who is 23:43 < esden> hehe! ;-) *wonder* 23:44 < rxr> netrunner: such stuff is not a svn up during the build problem - what do you see exactly = 23:45 < rxr> Freak: IIRC this is not yet possible (search for real-dual patches on the internet - there are some hacky onces ...) 23:45 < Freak> =) 23:45 < Freak> rxr: you'll probably understand for you have an ibook :) 23:46 < Freak> rxr: everyone else is just wondering why one would want this :) 23:46 < tsa> rxr: i just sent a patch for openssh to the list. 23:46 < rxr> tsa: ok 23:47 < tsa> i'm dumb, so diffed it from within package/base, so you'll have to apply it from there, too.. ;) 23:49 < rxr> Freak: I can also imagine why I want this on a dual or triple head Matrox card with two or three USB keyboards .... 23:49 -!- huebi_ [~huebi@p50817FAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:51 < tsa> Mike1: ? 23:53 < Freak> rxr: thats easier to imagine i think. 23:53 < Freak> but I just read linux didnt understand multiple keyboards 23:53 < Freak> it just interprets a keycode as a keycode, no matter where it comes from. 23:53 < tsa> shouldn't be a problem with usb. 23:54 < Freak> so even if X could do it, the kernel doesnt do it 23:54 < rxr> jups - but much changed for 2.6 (but I do not know if this will be finally possible with 2.6 - maybe just 95% nearer ...) 23:54 < Freak> rxr: . o O ( waiting for 2.6 ;) 23:54 < tsa> (although i'd rather use a sun type5 keyboard on my pc ;) 23:54 < rxr> tsa: it is - you only have one "stdin" per kernel instance ... 23:54 < tsa> ah, i see. 23:55 < rxr> technically it is no problem - just rewriting the kernel's input system ;-) (done to a great part ...) 23:56 < tsa> hehe...i don't have any use for more than one keyboard on my pc, anyway.. 23:56 < tsa> <- sitting in a stack of different boxes, no space left.. 23:57 < rxr> I would like this. 23:58 < tsa> i could rather need a nice scsi raid controller (or a complete new box) --- Log closed Wed Jun 25 00:00:55 2003