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--- Log opened Sat Jul 12 00:00:00 2003 --- Day changed Sat Jul 12 2003 00:00 < fake> and more wine.... *skeletton_of_the_last_unicorn_pronouncement* 00:04 < esden> greet to the clifford ;-) 00:04 * -> esden waves over ;-) 00:05 < esden> fake: what about the photos you made? 00:06 < fake> which photos? 00:06 < esden> you have a cam there ... I thought there were photos made with it ... 00:07 < fake> esden: i don't have a cam supported by my operating system of choice 00:07 < fake> (yes( 00:07 < fake> (yet) 00:07 < esden> find someone who can fix it ... I think at linuxtag you will find someone apriopriate ;-) 00:08 -!- Awacs [~demian@pD95231BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:08 < Awacs> hi 00:08 < esden> hi 00:08 < fake> write a driver for the mpeg2-hardware-encoder ? 00:09 < fake> hi Awacs 00:09 < esden> humm ... that may be bit more difficult ... 00:09 -!- christian [~root@pD9E397E8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 00:10 < fake> see... 00:10 * blindcoder sleep 00:10 < fake> n8 blindcoder 00:10 < Mike1> n8 blindy 00:10 < Mike1> yo fake! 00:10 < Mike1> fake: got pics of LT yet? 00:11 < fake> Mike1: me? no 00:11 < esden> n8 blindcoder 00:11 < fake> i never take photos 00:11 < Mike1> fake: oh :( 00:11 < Awacs> just to owl.. 00:11 < esden> fake: let do it someone else 00:11 < Mike1> hello Awacs 00:11 < fake> esden: ripclaw has a cam with him and philip, a friend of clifford's 00:11 < esden> Awacs: sure demian ;-) 00:12 < esden> fake: so force them to upload the pics somewehre ;-) 00:12 < Awacs> btw.. where is owl.. i dunt see her since a long time ago... 00:12 < Mike1> Awacs: #anarchy 00:12 < esden> Awacs: I think she went to bed 00:14 -!- christian [~christian@pD9E397E8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:14 < christian> re 00:14 < fake> Awacs: she left shortly 00:14 < Mike1> welcome back christian 00:14 < christian> wb :) 00:14 < fake> re christian 00:15 < fake> it is most amusing 00:15 < fake> the challenge built binutils in stage 2 without complaining 00:15 < christian> everything works 00:15 < fake> i changed nothing in the build scripts 00:15 < christian> this is great 00:15 < fake> just selected minimal rock, mips, eb 00:15 < Mike1> christian: congratz 00:15 < Awacs> gonna leave.. 00:15 < christian> ROCKLINUX RILZ 00:16 < christian> RULZ 00:16 < Awacs> good bye 00:16 < fake> bye Aard 00:16 < fake> aeh 00:16 < fake> bye Awacs 00:16 -!- Awacs is now known as demian 00:16 -!- demian [~demian@pD95231BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Leaving") 00:23 * fake listening to america - the last unicorn 00:25 < tcr> Cool, there's "Die Wikinger" on ARD 00:28 -!- kasc [~kasc@p509090E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:28 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:29 < owl> rehi 00:29 < Mike1> welcome back owl 00:29 < owl> thx 00:35 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090B073.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:36 < christian> hi kasc 00:37 < fake> *hicks* 00:38 < owl> some alk left? 00:39 < owl> (if yes... then please give me the bottle and a glas) 00:53 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB88A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ninety percent of everything is crap.") 01:04 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: aszlig 01:05 -!- rammi [1000@216.236.217.165] has joined #rocklinux 01:06 -!- rammi [1000@216.236.217.165] has left #rocklinux ("Client exiting") 01:07 -!- rammi [1000@216.236.217.165] has joined #rocklinux 01:07 < rammi> hi to all :) 01:09 < Mike1> hi. 01:10 -!- Netsplit over, joins: aszlig 01:11 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has quit (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 01:12 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has joined #rocklinux 01:12 < Mike1> aszlig: 01:29 -!- rammi [1000@216.236.217.165] has quit ("Client exiting") 01:32 < christian> goof night rocklinux! 01:32 < christian> night 01:32 < christian> its time for me to go to bead 01:33 < Mike1> n8 chris 01:34 -!- christian [~christian@pD9E397E8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 01:35 < Mike1> n8 all 01:59 -!- esden [weasel@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 01:59 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/projects/rock20/ 01:59 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [Wed Jul 2 21:53:27 2003] 01:59 (Users #rocklinux) 01:59 [ A-Tui ] [ blindcoder] [ fake ] [ Mike1 ] [ owl ] [ SMP ] 01:59 [ Aard ] [ daja77 ] [ kasc ] [ mistik1 ] [ rolla] [ snyke] 01:59 [ aszlig] [ esden ] [ link_] [ netrunner] [ rxr ] 01:59 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 17 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 01:59 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Tue Jun 11 09:27:41 2002 01:59 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 23 secs 01:59 -!- praenti [mo1032@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 03:33 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 04:01 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has joined #rocklinux 04:03 < mnemoc> hi 04:03 < mnemoc> happy LT 04:07 < rxr> re 04:08 < mnemoc> hi rxr 04:09 < mnemoc> how was the marriage? 04:09 -!- fake [~fake@pD9E4D616.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04:13 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: blindcoder, mistik1, snyke, SMP 04:13 -!- Netsplit over, joins: snyke, blindcoder, SMP, mistik1 04:18 < rxr> mnemoc: really nice ;-) 04:19 * rxr currentl packing - and off to the railway station in some minutes ... 04:19 < rxr> cu 04:19 < mnemoc> LT? 04:19 < rxr> jups 04:19 < mnemoc> good luck 04:19 < mnemoc> write down anything you decide ;) 05:11 -!- Pyro [mike@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:11 < Pyro> re 05:15 < mnemoc> hi Pyro 05:15 < Pyro> Ale! 05:15 < Pyro> bien, por un momento pense que todos dormian 05:15 < Pyro> como estas? 05:18 < mnemoc> bien bien... 05:18 < mnemoc> estan en LinuxTag 05:18 < mnemoc> no precisamente durmiendo 05:19 < Pyro> sips, igual son las 5am 05:19 < Pyro> y tu que haces? 05:19 < mnemoc> terminando un trabajo, revizando mail y preparandome para ir a dormir 05:20 < Pyro> hehe 05:20 < Pyro> okis, yo estoy codeando asi que te veo luego, supongo manana 05:20 < Pyro> que descanses Ale 05:20 < mnemoc> tb... ;) 05:21 < Pyro> gratz 05:21 < Pyro> n8 all. 05:21 -!- Pyro [mike@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit ("leaving") 05:33 -!- fake [~fake@pD950ECE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:34 < netrunner> moin 08:34 < esden> moin ;-) 08:34 * -> esden off to uni 08:34 < esden> cu there netrunner 08:34 < esden> ;-) 08:34 < netrunner> esden: will they let us in that early? 08:35 < esden> donno ... if not I will sit outside and repeat some stuff 08:35 < esden> cu for now 08:35 < netrunner> esden: I'll be there at 1000. just printed some old exams. 08:35 < netrunner> esden: cu there :) 09:00 -!- JTBurn [~jtburn@pD9E7D7CF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:00 < JTBurn> hi :) 09:00 < JTBurn> is anybody here who can help me with WINE ??? 09:07 < JTBurn> its ok i've solved the problem *g* 09:08 < JTBurn> but, how are you ? its a long time ago where we saw us :) 09:22 < blindcoder> moin 09:35 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4FAC8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:36 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F557.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (ghosted: blindcod1r!blindcoder@pD9E4FAC8.dip.t-dialin.net))) 09:36 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 09:39 < daja77> moin 09:42 < blindcoder> moin daja 09:51 < daja77> hi blindcoder, how are you 09:51 < blindcoder> fine, tahnks 09:51 < blindcoder> already had my good-morning-coffee :) 09:52 * daja77 lauhging his @$$ off while reading backlog 09:52 < daja77> btw christian was here, and said how cool rock is 09:52 < blindcoder> hm... I usually don't read the log 09:52 < daja77> not bad for a newbie 09:53 < daja77> I only wanted to read how Mike1 tried to help him 09:55 < blindcoder> hehe 09:55 < blindcoder> hope he did a good job 09:55 < daja77> yes he did 09:55 -!- Robin_Root [Robin_Root@ip141-2-22.dialup.edisontel.com] has joined #rocklinux 09:56 < Robin_Root> Hi 09:56 < daja77> christian seemed to be very happy that he could kick rh with rock ;-) 09:56 < daja77> hi Robin_Root 09:56 < blindcoder> good :) 09:56 < blindcoder> hi Robin_Root 09:56 < daja77> Robin_Root: greetings from Linuxtag :) 09:58 < daja77> hmm maybe I should tell him, that the cds I gave him are not drock but generic ... 09:59 * daja77 waiting for the xbox hackers 10:01 < blindcoder> yes, you should :) 10:03 < daja77> :) 10:11 < daja77> ahem aynone has access to the rock repo atm? 10:12 -!- Robin_Root [Robin_Root@ip141-2-22.dialup.edisontel.com] has quit () 10:13 < blindcoder> read... 10:22 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EABDA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:23 < daja77> hi tcr 10:23 < daja77> tcr: thx for the happy user ;-) 10:24 < tcr> moin 10:24 < tcr> hm? 10:26 < tcr> "I can't remember" ;) 10:28 < daja77> christian, Mike1 was successful 10:28 < daja77> christian is now a happy rock user ;-) 10:28 < daja77> so you deserve a big :P 10:28 < daja77> :) 10:29 < tcr> Well, you seem to be misinformed. And I feel incomprehended. 10:31 < daja77> huh? 10:32 < tcr> Seemingly you're told that I should have said he wouldn't success otherwise. That's not the truth, absolutely not. 10:33 * daja77 read backlog :) 10:33 < tcr> I just said that in my opinion a live guidance will be better (in the sense of more informative, more intuitive etc) 10:33 < daja77> yeah 10:33 < daja77> but it was cooler that way in this case, less trouble for me 10:33 < tcr> And as christian at first told that it'd be any problem to take his computer to you 10:33 < daja77> :) 10:33 < tcr> brb 10:35 < tcr> as as he told me so, I believed that Mike1's effort is /more or less/ in vain 10:35 < tcr> or not that appropriate 10:36 < tcr> But later it exposed itself to be right 10:36 < tcr> since it actually was a problem to take the computer to you 10:37 < tcr> daja77: You're there for having trouble! 10:39 < daja77> hehe 10:41 < tcr> Wanna have a url to some interesting interview? 10:41 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4FAC8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 10:42 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4FAC8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:42 < tcr> It's about future of disc capacities, latencies and bandwith 10:42 < tcr> But quite long, about 10pages 10:43 < tcr> https://www.acmqueue.org/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=43 10:45 < daja77> *gosh* if it goes on like this rene is here before clifford and staff :-( 10:57 < tcr> what d'ya mean? 11:07 < daja77> don't worry 11:08 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4FAC8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("testing") 11:17 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p508016BE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:21 -!- Freak [~freak@195.20.242.250] has joined #rocklinux 11:23 < fake> daja77: perfect timing, eh? *g* 11:23 < daja77> hehe 11:32 * tcr must laugh about a webserver that openly offers test.php which tell that the server runs under root and is a 1.3.19 apache 11:33 < daja77> hihi 11:33 < tcr> I feel tempted ;> 11:34 < tcr> but fortunately I have to do something 11:41 < owl> morning 11:41 < owl> *yawn* 11:43 < daja77> night owl *ggg* 11:44 < owl> daja77: hm??? 11:44 < daja77> uhm ... hi :) 11:45 < owl> .oO( daja77 might should open his eyes to see that it's day... ) 11:47 < daja77> I know ... 11:47 < fake> i am feeling a bit dizzy... 11:47 < daja77> hehe 11:47 < owl> daja77: that you should oopen your eyes or that it's day 11:48 * daja77 felling a bit like fake 11:48 < daja77> feeling 11:48 < owl> no coffee available at your place, daja77 , fake ? 11:48 < daja77> fake????! 11:49 < Aard> good morning... 11:49 < owl> hi Aard 11:50 -!- JTBurn [~jtburn@pD9E7D7CF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Reboot...") 11:50 < daja77> hi Aard, where are you? 11:51 < fake> well, i already had coffe, but i am still buzzed 11:51 < Aard> daja77: at `my' room, just got up... 11:51 < owl> poor fake :-/ 11:51 < tcr> fake: no wonder if I think of the alcohol you consumed last night 11:51 < owl> headache? 11:51 < fake> tcr: how would you know? 11:52 < Aard> daja77: I think I'll be at LT within one hour... 11:52 < daja77> okis 11:52 < fake> Aard: bring aspirin 11:52 < tcr> your small amount told us 11:52 < fake> my 'small amount' ? 11:53 < Aard> fake: I think I have one or two `thomapyrin' in my pocket 11:53 < tcr> Heh, yeah a terrible transfer of a german idiom into english ;) 11:53 < fake> Aaard: cool 11:53 < tcr> fake: it's left to you to find out the actual german expression :P 11:53 < fake> tcr: you mean you know by the little i said? 11:53 < Aard> fake: just don"t die during the next hour, I'll come and rescue you, then.. ;) 11:54 < Aard> -> breakfast 11:54 < owl> *lol* 11:54 < fake> my hero! 11:54 < tcr> fake: your small amount, "Deine Wenigkeit" 11:54 < fake> oh, my uselessnes 11:54 < daja77> tcr: what bad scool you have?! 11:55 < tcr> It was supposed to be a bad joke 11:55 < tcr> a pun to the amount of alcohol he drunk 11:55 < fake> i didn't even drin much... 11:56 < fake> just a bit of wine 11:56 < fake> it was 'free'... muahaha 11:56 -!- JTBurn [~jtburn@pD9E7D7CF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:57 < owl> fake: the bottle was empty after "drinking a bit" or am i wrong? 11:58 -!- Ge0rG [~georg@duenndns.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:58 < owl> hi Ge0rG , JTBurn 11:58 < daja77> hey Ge0rG, come over guys! 12:02 < fake> oh i wished it would have been only one bottle ... ;) 12:02 < owl> oh goth... *gnarf* /me kicks fake :p 12:03 < Ge0rG> hiho 12:07 < Ge0rG> daja77: *lag* 12:09 < owl> <-- off. 12:09 < owl> bbl (about 16 o'clock) 12:10 < JTBurn> can anyone work with kylix in this chan ? 12:11 < tcr> Not yet. But I anticipate that I'll have to stick with it next year 12:13 < fake> daja77: i have the same problem with my wlan card that you have 12:13 < fake> daja77: if i take it out... boom. 12:13 * fake brb 12:13 < JTBurn> mh my problem is that when you installed it you must register, and the link for the register page is createt on a box with a shelscript but when i klick on this link my browser didnt open ... 12:13 < JTBurn> what can i do ? 12:13 < daja77> fuck linux 2.4.21 12:13 < daja77> :) 12:14 < JTBurn> mh i must go eating, when anybody knows what the solution is plz tell me *big thx* :) 12:21 < Ge0rG> daja77: we've got pretty much RL trafic here, and I'd like to go to a workshop in half an hour 12:27 < Aard> fake: I have some tpmapyrin, and I'll come soon 12:28 < fake> Aard: good 12:29 < fake> Ge0rG: ich kann ja uebernehmen... muahaha 12:29 < fake> Ge0rG: don't be surprised afterards *g* 12:30 < daja77> Ge0rG: ok 12:30 * daja77 notes fake is evil 12:30 < Ge0rG> fake: du hilfst daja, rock auf die xbox zu portieren? fein 12:31 < daja77> Ge0rG: sieht so aus, als hätt ich eh nich die ruhe hier :) 12:31 < Ge0rG> daja77: die hat irgendwie keiner 12:31 < daja77> yo 12:31 < fake> Ge0rG: gimme 7 hrs 12:32 < daja77> yep 7h should be enough 12:37 < JTBurn> mh lustig lustig :) 12:37 < Ge0rG> fake: you need an xbox? ;) 12:37 < daja77> Ge0rG: can I get one for free ;-) 12:39 < Ge0rG> daja77: I'll ask mist 12:39 < daja77> cool 12:43 < Ge0rG> daja77: we can't do this, because a developer is only really motivated when he has bought his box himsel :] 12:54 < daja77> Ge0rG: well the thing is I'm not gonna buy one, but maybe I can rent/let some for some time just to port rock 12:59 < fake> Ge0rG: bullshit. i am not less motivated in getting the challenge or cobalt to run, just because they were donations. 13:01 < fake> Ge0rG: btwut i would really like to just try and install rock on an XBox 13:01 < Ge0rG> fake: ok, this is just a lame excuse for us not having enogh money ;) 13:01 < fake> Ge0rG: *rofl* 13:01 < fake> you guys want coffee? 13:02 < JTBurn> me 13:02 < Ge0rG> fake: Ive got to go now to a workshop, in an hour Ill try to get you one 13:02 < JTBurn> *g* 13:02 < Ge0rG> *pingtimeout* 13:02 < JTBurn> i didn sleep last night 13:02 < JTBurn> :) 13:03 < Aard> re. 13:05 < fake> Ge0rG: thanks ! 13:10 -!- Freak [~freak@195.20.242.250] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 13:25 -!- Ge0rG [~georg@duenndns.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 13:33 < fake> sex and violence... *sing* 13:34 < daja77> hehe zum glück leise ... 13:46 < blindcoder> sex? violence? count me in! :) 13:47 < fake> the exploited - sex and violence 13:48 < blindcoder> hmm 13:49 < blindcoder> fake: can I give a kernel which was dd'ed to a floppy any paramters? 13:51 < fake> blindcoder: no 13:52 < fake> i had that problem with my mosix cluster bootdisk 13:53 < blindcoder> shit... 13:53 < blindcoder> but... oh well.. 13:53 < blindcoder> the thing I've tried worked, and that's all I need t know :) 13:54 < blindcoder> (just loadaed the LPP kernel on my machine at home) 13:58 < blindcoder> brb, shutting down windows, starting knoppix 14:00 -!- Robin_Root [Robin_Root@ip061-2-23.dialup.edisontel.com] has joined #rocklinux 14:05 -!- Robin_Root [Robin_Root@ip061-2-23.dialup.edisontel.com] has left #rocklinux () 14:06 * blindcoder back 14:32 < blindcoder> hehe, finallz found some real use for mz usb wrist watch 14:50 < fake> wee 14:51 < fake> guido promised to patch the newport fb console driver for the indy to support devfs... 14:51 < daja77> guido? 14:54 < fake> guido guenther, author of dvhtool ( 14:54 -!- fake [~fake@pD950ECE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("changing servers") 14:54 -!- fake [~fake@pD950ECE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:54 < fake> guido guenther, author of dvhtool 14:54 < daja77> ic 14:57 < daja77> wb Aard 14:59 < Aard> daja77: I didn't say re... 14:59 < daja77> hehe irl rules! 15:00 < daja77> how was the talk? 15:00 -!- Freak [~freak@195.20.242.250] has joined #rocklinux 15:01 < Aard> daja77: nice + funny :) you shoud have been there.. 15:01 < daja77> yeah I know, that damn sucker who wanted the cds still wasn't here >_< 15:03 < blindcoder> harr, knpoppix home on USB Wristwatch :) 15:03 < daja77> *lol* sounds cool 15:03 * blindcoder now off to dance lessons 15:03 < blindcoder> baba 15:04 < daja77> have phun 15:13 * fake making coffee and coping with dvhtool automake -_- 15:17 < daja77> 2oh cool 15:22 < fake> the sun guy that donated the cobalt was happy to hear i got it to work 15:39 -!- Freak [~freak@195.20.242.250] has quit ("Client exciting") 15:45 < owl> rehi 15:45 -!- knoti [~knoti@p508B326A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:45 < knoti> Hiho 15:45 < owl> hi knoti 15:46 < knoti> Wer hat eigentlich den Vortrag über openboot gehalten? 15:46 -!- sirio [~irgendwer@pD900E08B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:46 < owl> hi sirio 15:46 < sirio> hi owl 15:46 -!- ribnitz [~robert@pop-be-15-1-dialup-265.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 15:46 < owl> hi ribnitz 15:46 < sirio> well. now that i am here i should first get mysel some infos about rocklinux. 15:46 < ribnitz> heya. 15:46 < knoti> Aard: huhu? 15:47 * sirio goes off searching information 15:47 < ribnitz> I'd need some infos too. got a rocklinux cd lying around from last linuxtag 15:47 < knoti> Who did the presentation of openboot at the linuxtag? 15:47 < knoti> ribnitz: As far as I understood rocklinux is a bunch of scripts for creating a distribution 15:48 < ribnitz> knoti: linux-from-scratch, gentoo.. ..:) 15:48 < knoti> ribnitz: Not in that way, but you should really ask a rocklinux developer 15:49 < ribnitz> hey ppl. does it compile on sparc64? 15:49 < ribnitz> or alpha ? 15:50 -!- ribnitz [~robert@pop-be-15-1-dialup-265.freesurf.ch] has quit ("leaving") 15:55 < fake> knoti: ripclaw 15:56 < fake> ribnitz; yes 15:56 < fake> ribnitz: and on ia64, and on x86_64, and on mips, and on parisc, and on ppc... 15:56 < fake> ribnitz: we are still working on ia32 support... haha. 15:57 < owl> .oO( fake is talking to ghosts ) 15:57 < fake> duh. 15:57 < owl> hm? 15:57 < knoti> could somebody at the rocklinux table at the linuxtag ask ripclaw, if he is around, wether it is possible to boot from usb at an 2.2 ibook? And how to do it? 15:57 < fake> knoti: justa second 15:58 < daja77> nope it was not 15:58 < knoti> fuck 15:58 < fake> knoti: it can't 15:58 < knoti> thanks guys 16:19 < fake> np 16:19 < esden> hi all 16:20 < owl> hi esden *hug* 16:20 < fake> hi esden 16:20 < knoti> hi esden 16:21 < esden> hi owl, fake, knoti 16:26 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@Mix-Nancy-106-2-169.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 16:26 < DeElsasser> hi all 16:26 < owl> hi DeElsasser 16:26 < DeElsasser> hi owl 16:27 < DeElsasser> what's new in Karlsruhe? 16:30 < DeElsasser> are they all sleeping? 16:30 < owl> yes *g* 16:31 < DeElsasser> long night? 16:31 < DeElsasser> by working of course,,, 16:32 < owl> *lol* dunno 16:32 < owl> <-- not in karlsruhe... but i guessed they're sleeping :p 16:34 < knoti> I don't think so :) 16:34 < DeElsasser> yesterday, I tested fake's cafe, not very exciting 16:37 < fake> DeElsasser: i have stomach problems ATM 16:37 < esden> I suppose that they are hard working on converting as many people to rock as possible ;-) 16:37 < esden> or having stomach problems ;-) 16:37 < owl> *har* 16:38 < esden> fake: you know that too much alcohol is not good for helth? ;-) 16:38 < DeElsasser> esden: he think is the cafe fault ;-) 16:39 < Aard> re. 16:39 < esden> hi Aard 16:39 < owl> wb Aard 16:40 < Aard> (online via wlannow..) 16:40 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@pD9018529.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:41 < esden> hi schasi ... you missed a 't' in your nick? 16:43 < owl> hi schasi 16:43 < schasi> hi 16:44 < schasi> what would my name be like with a t in it? 16:45 < knoti> hi Aard 16:45 < fake> a german synonym for 'dear' as in 'my dear' 16:45 < fake> or a eastern-german law-enforcement , depending on where you put it 16:45 < owl> schatsi != schatzi... 16:45 < fake> schtasi ;) 16:45 < schasi> you german? 16:46 < esden> schasi: most of the people here 16:46 < knoti> yes 16:46 < owl> fake: but this is bavarian german :p or "schwaebisch" 16:46 < fake> most of us, but the channel is english-only 16:46 < knoti> and the most are sitting around in Karlsruhe today ;) 16:46 < schasi> well my name is a mixture of schüler and hasi. so its sc hasi schasi 16:46 < esden> knoti: but not many enough ... :-( 16:46 < fake> ah... 16:46 < owl> *rofl* 16:47 < schasi> nice a channel full of germans speaking english, why not ^^ 16:47 < fake> yes, SMP and esden and owl and Mike1 and cchamilton and jocelyn and Sirkull and Alejandro and ... are missing 16:48 < esden> fake: yes ... we losers ;-) 16:48 < owl> haeh? why losers? 16:48 < owl> *confused* 16:48 < schasi> rofl 16:48 < fake> and many more 16:48 < fake> becuase you are. 16:49 < fake> face e truth 16:49 < fake> we rule, you suck. 16:49 < schasi> rofl 16:49 < schasi> you wish 16:49 < esden> lol 16:49 < fake> *lol* 16:49 * owl takes a sword and kills fake with it - slowly and painful - enjoy it, fake *har* 16:49 < owl> :p 16:50 < fake> hm, glib on the challenge (in stage 5 now!) should be finished in only ... 9 more hours! 16:50 < fake> glibc even 16:50 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@Mix-Nancy-106-2-169.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ("Client exiting") 16:50 < Aard> kasc: lebst du noch? daja will das wissen 16:52 < schasi> fake: are you on gentoo? 16:52 < schasi> atm 16:54 < schasi> oh well now i understand what rocklinux wants to be 16:54 < esden> schasi: ? 16:54 < fake> Aard: i feel pain, so i am still alive, i thinkl. 16:55 < schasi> beat him again 16:55 < Aard> fake: please adjust your text-parser.. 16:55 < fake> schasi: no, i only use gentoo if i have to sort big numbers of mp3s... 16:55 < esden> fake: Aard was asking for kasc 16:55 < fake> argh 16:55 < owl> .oO( fake is using _what_?!!!!!! ) 16:55 < fake> dont confuse me with 3-times-relocations ;) 16:55 < esden> owl: the gentoo file manager 16:56 < esden> I suppose 16:56 < Aard> fake: I can see from here that you are still alife, no need to ask.. 16:56 < owl> esden: ah so.. *lol* 16:56 < fake> i use gentoo *g* 16:56 < owl> fake: *kick* you're evil :p 16:56 < esden> owl: do not worry ... I think fake will not taint his machines with gentoo linux distribution *vbeg* 16:57 < esden> am I right fake? 16:57 < fake> ack. 16:57 < owl> esden: hehe. at least i hope so. :p 16:57 < fake> gentoo is even part of rock 2.0.0 16:58 < esden> fake: o_O we have a gentoo target? 16:58 < esden> have I missed something? 16:58 -!- Ge0rG [~georg@duenndns.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:00 < fake> no 17:01 < fake> the gentoo filemanager is part of desktop rock 17:02 < esden> *sigh* ... this confusion ... 17:02 * owl laughs about esden 17:03 < esden> but it would be possible to make a gentoo target ... we had that topic on last RLDM 17:03 < esden> but as it seems noone wants/needs it ;-) 17:04 < owl> and what for ...? 17:04 < owl> ack 17:04 < esden> a a proof of concept 17:04 < owl> a proof... hrm.. 17:05 < fake> a proof of geekness ;) 17:05 < esden> or so ... yes ;-) 17:05 < schasi> how much time does it take to compile rocklinux? say with kde and the most needed tools 17:06 < owl> nah. not really... geeknes is proved by doing a totally small base and so... :p 17:06 < owl> schasi: which PC do you have? 17:06 < Aard> owl: base = base system? 17:07 < owl> Aard: yes.. 17:07 < schasi> 1700xp + 512 ram 17:07 < owl> (and just adding stuff like kde or crap - but in different repos... and so) 17:07 < Aard> uh, that means I'm an approved geek? ;) 17:08 < owl> Aard: think so :p 17:08 < schasi> well how long does it take with that system? 17:09 < fake> 3 to 5 days 17:09 < owl> how long?!!!!!!!! 17:09 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 17:09 < owl> omg... 17:09 < owl> hi blindcoder 17:10 < blindcoder> p4 1800 with 512 MB RAMBus, 6 days including Stage 9 17:11 < schasi> owl: what was wrong with how long? 17:11 < owl> oh goth... i'm soooooooooooooooooooooo lucky about my LFS... 17:11 < owl> schasi: because it's extremely long 17:11 < Aard> owl: you called me? 17:11 < owl> Aard: nah. *kick* 17:12 < Aard> owl: wtf? 17:12 < owl> Aard: ? 17:12 < Aard> 17:19 < owl> oh goth -- you called me. 17:12 < owl> Aard: nack. i didn't call you 17:13 < Aard> you did. 17:13 < owl> .oO(but better calling Aard than an non-existent ""god"") 17:13 < Aard> owl: hey, I'm existend. the people here at lt can proove that 17:13 < owl> Aard: no further comments ;p 17:20 * netrunner needs ca. 30h for a generic build w/o stage 9 17:20 < fake> netrunner: cluster build? 17:21 < netrunner> fake: local cluster (mp system) 17:22 * netrunner thinks about doubling the ram that each cpu can use tempfs... damn those ide-i/os are too slow :) 17:24 < owl> *sigh* 17:24 < Aard> owl: ? 17:25 < owl> Aard: hm. nothing.. just - thinking *gnarf* 17:25 < blindcoder> GUH-narf! 17:25 < Aard> owl: you're not allowed to think today. sorry. 17:26 < owl> Aard: hm. then give me the bottle of alk. 17:26 < owl> forgot to buy wodka today :-((( 17:26 < Aard> good girl. 17:27 < owl> Aard: *kick* this doesn't mean that i have completely no alk here... but i have to trink osbourne or so then... :-( 17:27 < knoti> the live could be so easy with a bottle of wodka and no exams *g* 17:27 < Aard> owl: I don't think ozzy likes that.. 17:28 < owl> knoti: ack. but: s -e s/no exams/understanding what people think 17:28 * blindcoder now checking out a virgin rock-trunk 17:31 -!- schueler [~blubb0r@p50833142.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:32 < owl> blindcoder: have fun... 17:33 < blindcoder> thakn 17:34 < knoti> lol 17:34 < knoti> owl: yeah 17:34 < owl> why lol? 17:35 < blindcoder> esden: ping 17:35 < knoti> owl: understanding what people think? Do you _really_ want that? 17:36 < blindcoder> hm... alcohol or caffeeine? 17:36 -!- LoonyAard [~bwachter@aardchat.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:36 < LoonyAard> gna. connection problems to my box at home :( 17:36 < owl> knoti: yes.. i want. at least sometimes 17:36 < owl> blindcoder: hm? alk... alk is better... for killing brain and so... ya know 17:37 < knoti> owl: You like to understand stupidity as well as intelligence? 17:37 < schueler> did you see the movie "what women want"? 17:37 < knoti> owl: brrr 17:37 < LoonyAard> wer von euch ist jetzt der boese wolf? ;) 17:37 < knoti> Aard: There again? 17:37 < schueler> rofl 17:37 < knoti> here 17:37 < schueler> here 17:37 < schueler> ^^ 17:37 < LoonyAard> ah :) 17:37 < schueler> no knoti is it 17:37 < schueler> it 17:37 < owl> schueler: nah... *lol* (btw, /me = female. and /me != lesbian) 17:37 < knoti> LoonyAard: Try /whois knoti 17:38 < knoti> :) 17:38 < blindcoder> owl: for coding... I've created outstanding lesults with both :D 17:38 < LoonyAard> thx. :) 17:38 < schueler> owl: makes things easier for you sometimes 17:38 < knoti> LoonyAard: just query me 17:39 < owl> blindcoder: hm... k. 17:39 < owl> schueler: why? 17:40 < schueler> well you dont have that "women are from mars, men are from venus" problem, maybe you do, but not as hard as others 17:40 < owl> schueler: wtf-problem? O_o 17:41 < schueler> huh? 17:41 < owl> wtf-ist-women-are-from-mars-men-are-from-venus-problem ? 17:42 < schueler> the problem that they dont understand each another 17:42 < owl> *g* ah so... 17:42 < owl> hm. but i have it... 17:42 < schueler> Yes but not as hard as a man and a woman 17:42 < blindcoder> owl: btw... it's the other way routnd... 17:43 < schueler> because two women are more alike then a man and a woman 17:43 < blindcoder> women == venus, men == mars 17:44 < esden> blindcoder: pong??? 17:44 < owl> now i'm completely confused... i'm having jut the problem: women <-> man 17:44 < blindcoder> esden: hi! how's the exam been? 17:44 < blindcoder> schueler: STRIKE! We did it :D 17:44 < schueler> well now _im_ confuused 17:44 < schueler> too 17:44 < blindcoder> hrm? 17:44 < blindcoder> ARGH 17:44 < schueler> and loosing my sense for english 17:45 < esden> blindcoder: forget it ... it was terrible 17:45 < blindcoder> esden: come on... you learned hard for it... it can't have been THAT bad... can it? 17:45 < owl> hehe. don't mind. /me never had sense for english 17:45 < tcr> re all 17:45 < owl> hi tcr 17:45 < blindcoder> hi tcr 17:45 < esden> blindcoder: yes ... it was so bad 17:45 < blindcoder> esden: hrmpf 17:51 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@pD9018529.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:53 < Aard> esden: hehe..the bad part of it: you could have cme to linux tag.. ;) 17:53 < esden> yes that is right ... :-( 17:59 < Aard> esden: what ar you wating for? I espect you to be here within 2 hours; ) 17:59 < owl> Aard: might you should send a helicopter ... and please to /me too 18:00 < Aard> owl: why? you didn't want to come 18:00 < knoti> hi tcr 18:00 < Aard> btw, I'll be here tomorrow, too 18:00 < tcr> owl: Use esden as mount 18:01 < tcr> hello knoti 18:01 < owl> Aard: because i have no money and i'm not willed to take the train and sit in it for some hours. (and i'm not allowed to have vacation ...) 18:01 < owl> tcr: nah. bad idea 18:02 < Aard> owl: beat esden until he agrees to come this noght or tomorrow very early -> problem solved 18:02 < daja77> re 18:02 < Aard> huhu daja77 :) 18:02 * tcr brb (getting such a usb pci-card) 18:02 < owl> Aard: hehe. then i would need vacation on monday... --> still problem... 18:02 < Aard> owl: why? you'll be back sunday evening 18:03 < owl> Aard: yes... but i guess extremely tired... 18:03 < owl> and i have to code in this fscking .ARG-shit... 18:04 < Aard> you can sleep during the trip 18:04 < owl> Aard: nah... 18:04 < owl> and - i guess that i even can't move my body tomorrow... 18:04 -!- schueler is now known as schasi 18:04 < knoti> owl: wtf is .ARG ` 18:05 < owl> knoti: .NET... 18:05 < Aard> owl: get a wheelchair.. ;) 18:05 < fake> Advanced RISC Generation? 18:05 < knoti> owl: LOL I had to code that until I quitted my slavejob. 18:05 < fake> risc extended instruction set ;) 18:05 < owl> Aard: *kick* 18:05 < Aard> owl: wtf? 18:05 -!- holyolli [~blah@162.42.77.50] has joined #rocklinux 18:05 < holyolli> moin 18:05 < fake> hi mr. pilot! 18:05 < owl> knoti: hihi. i will do it, too... in about an year 18:05 < knoti> moin 18:06 < holyolli> hi fake 18:06 < owl> Aard: because of the wheelchair 18:06 < owl> hi holyolli 18:06 < holyolli> hi knoti 18:06 < Aard> owl: wtf? 18:06 < holyolli> hi owl 18:06 < daja77> Aard will never get my wheelchair 18:06 < owl> hihi 18:06 < Aard> daja77: I don't want it, owl wants 18:06 < owl> want? need you mean... 18:06 < daja77> I don't wanna let women drive it ... 18:07 < Aard> *lol* 18:07 < owl> *cough* *cough* 18:07 < daja77> hey you need experience for that ... 18:07 < owl> hmmm. 18:08 < Aard> daja77: let owl drive here, it's a kind of `autolart' for `schlipsies' :) 18:08 < knoti> daja77: *g* 18:08 < owl> Aard: ??? 18:08 < knoti> Aard: You just need a diagonal surface, I think at at least 50° should be sufficient. 18:08 < fake> holyolli: why aren't you @ linuxtag? 18:08 < daja77> hmm would it kill gentoo users? 18:08 * fake collecting cheap excuses 18:09 < Aard> owl: daja drives to a box filled with schlipsies, and then lets you drive. :) 18:09 < knoti> daja77: That depends on how long it is *g* 18:09 < Aard> fake: cheap? how much will you pay? :) 18:09 < owl> fake: why cheap excuse? 18:10 < owl> Aard: better suggestion: put them around the wheelchair... so there is a "stossdaempfer" 18:10 < Aard> owl: who do ypu want to protect with that? :) 18:10 < daja77> ugh don't wanna be surrounded by that scum ... 18:10 < owl> th 18:11 < owl> Aard: the weelchair 18:11 < owl> hehehehe. are they sooooooo horrible ? *vbeg* 18:11 < Aard> btw, is it possible to boot linux on that wheelchair? 18:11 < daja77> yes, they even wanna rob my jolt 18:11 < daja77> Aard: dunno 18:15 < knoti> Aard: Wo kann man eigentlich den Leitner zu dietlibc per mail erreichen ? 18:15 < Aard> knoti: iirc steht was auf www.fefe.de/dietlibc, ansonsten einfach an fefe@fefe.de 18:16 < Aard> ueberleg dir aber ob es wichtig ist, er hat gerade verdammt viel zu tun und nach eigenen aussagen >2500 ungelesene mails in der inbox 18:18 < knoti> Aard: Hmm. PPC dietlibc compiled halt nicht. 18:18 < Aard> knoti: am besten mail an dietlibc mailinglist, mit fehlerbeschreibung 18:18 < knoti> Aard: Kannst du jemanden mit Kenntnissen über gcc-inline-assembler auftreiben? 18:18 < knoti> Aard: dietlibc@fefe.de ? 18:19 < Aard> ja. 18:19 < knoti> Aard: www.fefe.de/dietlibc schweigt sich über eine mailaddresse aus. dietlibc-subscribe@fefe.de habe ich vor ~2h kontaktiert --> nothing .. :( 18:20 < Aard> warte. 18:22 < knoti> k 18:28 < blindcoder> hrmpf 18:44 * netrunner needs to create a new package. 18:45 < blindcoder> what for? 18:46 < netrunner> blindcoder: I want to listen the fritz.de livestream from the loveparade 18:46 * owl ph34rs netrunner 18:47 < blindcoder> hrm 18:47 < blindcoder> I have a patch that impacts Build-Tools and each package with parse-config file in the works here :D 18:53 < fake> we have to leave 18:53 < fake> c u later, @AKK 18:53 < daja77> cu 18:54 < Aard> cu. 18:54 < Aard> esden: cu tomorrow ;) 18:57 -!- JTBurn [~jtburn@pD9E7D7CF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Reboot...") 19:01 -!- sirio_ [~irgendwer@pD9505013.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:03 -!- sirio [~irgendwer@pD900E08B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19:10 -!- Ge0rG [~georg@duenndns.de] has quit ("Real Life is just an illusion caused by IRC deprivation") 19:13 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has quit ("Committed Suicide.") 19:13 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:13 < owl> re 19:15 < blindcoder> wb 19:15 < schasi> wb 19:17 < owl> thx 19:17 < schasi> np ^^ 19:18 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@p50833142.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("tschaule") 19:19 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@p50833142.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:21 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@p50833142.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 19:22 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@p50833142.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:28 < tcr> "Informacije o festivalu Rock in izola SLO-GER-GB-I" 19:28 < tcr> Wow, I even get SPAM about rock ;) 19:49 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@p50833142.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:52 -!- holyolli [~blah@162.42.77.50] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:56 -!- link_ [~sascha@pop-ls-4-1-dialup-226.freesurf.ch] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:58 -!- knoti [~knoti@p508B326A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20:04 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M271P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 20:10 -!- knoti [~knoti@p508B3CB7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:13 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M271P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("leaving") 20:22 < fake> woo 20:22 < fake> internet in the wild 20:22 < blindcoder> wild? 20:22 -!- christian [~christian@pD9E3919B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:22 < fake> hi from the campus of uni karlsruhe, over a wild connection 20:22 < owl> hi christian 20:22 < christian> returned from linuxday :=) 20:23 < christian> greetings to all :) 20:28 < netrunner> grmbl ... that package has no configure, no make install ... 20:28 < owl> netrunner: ??? 20:33 < blindcoder> fake: you old wardriver :) 20:35 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@p50833142.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:37 < christian> hi schasi 20:37 < schasi> hi christian 20:38 < christian> how are you? 20:38 < schasi> fine. n u? 20:38 < christian> very very fine - because of rocklinux :) 20:38 < schasi> rofl 20:38 < christian> rock linux is very good 20:39 < schasi> are you a bot? 20:39 < christian> no :) 20:39 < christian> i'm a real chatter :) 20:39 < schasi> wow a good bot 20:39 < christian> lol 20:40 < christian> what can i do, that you "think", that i'm a real chatter? :) 20:41 < schasi> well tell me about advantages of rock linux, pls 20:41 < blindcoder> christian: test my Linux Progress Patch package *MUAHAHAHAHA* 20:41 < christian> lol :) 20:42 < blindcoder> because if it doesn't work... you won't like it anymore :D\ 20:43 < blindcoder> let's put it this way: the explanation of the package and what it does to ROCK are almost twice as long as the changes themselves :D 20:43 -!- netrunne1 [~netrunner@p50802BDF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:44 < christian> hi netrunne1 - i'm not a BOT :) 20:45 < mnemoc> /msh christian help 20:46 < christian> ahja :) 20:46 < blindcoder> ok, sent to the list *phew* 20:46 < blindcoder> I hate documentation >_< 20:46 < christian> *phew* 20:48 * blindcoder now writing some CDs 20:50 < schasi> christian: dont want to tell me about the advantages of rock linux? 20:51 < tcr> schasi: Parts are summarized on the website 20:51 < christian> its fast, you lerarn with rocklinux how linux really works, its stable and stone is very useful 20:51 < schasi> thd 20:51 < schasi> wtf is stone? 20:51 < owl> schasi: the installer of rock 20:51 < christian> the configuration programm? 20:51 < schasi> well slackware is stable too and you learn how linux works too 20:51 < owl> or so... 20:52 < christian> schasi - you havent got rocklinux - am i right? 20:52 < schasi> atm i dont have any linux 20:52 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p5080244A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:52 < schasi> i have a half configured debian 20:52 < owl> schasi: huh? pardon? what then? windows? 20:52 < christian> well - i use rocklinux only since 1 day. i m sure, that there are many other big advantages of linuxrock. please ask the other chatters to get a well answer. 20:52 < tcr> schasi: ROCK Linux can only vaguely compared to slackware 20:53 < tcr> or to any other distribution 20:53 < schasi> owl: indeed windows 20:53 < owl> *crossing fingers* 20:53 < schasi> well i use debian if i use a distri, and i know some things about gentoo. 20:53 < schasi> and tried suse for some time 20:54 < owl> uuuuuuh. you used the evil word *crossing fingers even more* 20:54 < schasi> ok i USED the evil word 20:54 < tcr> Well, I don't think rock linux is something for you then 20:54 < schasi> but suse is not bad at all... its good for noobs 20:54 < schasi> like i am/was 20:55 < tcr> Nisi you really want to learn 20:55 * tcr is away again: bll 20:55 < schasi> nisi? 20:55 < tcr> bbl 20:55 < tcr> nisi is latin and means "Es sei denn" 20:56 < schasi> well what i need is some "hybrid" 20:57 < schasi> on the one hand i need a distro that works, where i can surf, chat and load with some mule clone 20:57 < schasi> on the other i want to learn something about linux 20:57 < blindcoder> schasi: ROCK. ROCK again. 20:57 < schasi> not everything, but something 20:57 < schasi> well why not gentoo or slack 20:57 < schasi> or even lfs ^^ 20:58 < blindcoder> well, you can do almost anything with any distro 20:58 < schasi> i know 20:58 < schasi> more or less 20:59 < schasi> my favorite distro is a mix betwenn (evil word) and lfs. i want it up fast, but i want to learn something 21:00 < owl> a mix between $name and LFS? how does this work? 21:01 < blindcoder> hrm... that would be Lindows... 21:01 < schasi> $name = $very evil linux os 21:01 < blindcoder> or Knoppix 21:01 < schasi> blindcoder: what packet manager does lindows have? 21:01 < blindcoder> schasi: a GUI for apt-get 21:02 < owl> oh my fscking god... 21:02 * owl hides in a dark corner and begins to cry 21:02 < blindcoder> s/god/goddess/ 21:02 < schasi> whew thats nice 21:02 < schasi> does rock have a packetmanager 21:02 < schasi> ? 21:02 < owl> nice??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 21:02 < blindcoder> mine 21:02 < blindcoder> stone can also be used a a frontend for mine 21:03 < schasi> wtf is mine? 21:03 < blindcoder> owl: sure. ever heard about usability? 21:03 < blindcoder> schasi: mine is the package-manager of ROCK :-) 21:03 -!- dexter [~roland@dexter.demon.nl] has joined #rocklinux 21:04 < owl> blindcoder: gui-apt-get says enough... to say "i will never use it" 21:04 < blindcoder> owl: I take that as a "no" 21:04 < dexter> hi 21:04 < schasi> well how do you define usability? 21:04 < blindcoder> hi dexter 21:04 < owl> hehe 21:04 < schasi> is usabiltiy a console program or a gui program? 21:05 < blindcoder> schasi: easily accesable, doesn't let the user in unsolvable situations, mostly self-explaining 21:05 < blindcoder> schasi: both can be. but a simple command-line-utility without as much as a text user interface doesn't fit any rule of usability 21:05 < schasi> well thats a good explanation 21:06 < schasi> how do i install new software in rock linux? 21:07 < blindcoder> that usually happens through either stone (though there's still some work needed) 21:07 < blindcoder> or by going to your rock-src directory 21:07 < blindcoder> typing ./scripts/Download {package} 21:08 < blindcoder> ./scripts/Build-Pkg {package} 21:08 < blindcoder> or directly with mine 21:08 < blindcoder> with stone and mine you can install pre-compiled binaries 21:08 < schasi> does mine solve dependencies? 21:08 < blindcoder> no 21:08 < schasi> uh 21:08 < blindcoder> that's planned for the 2.1 tree AFAIk 21:09 < schasi> well until then thats an advantage for apt-get and emerge 21:09 < blindcoder> I wouldn't really call that an advantage... 21:09 < schasi> y not? 21:09 < blindcoder> my experience with emerge and apt-get are.... not good, at best 21:10 < schasi> what happened? 21:10 < blindcoder> with apt-get I updated my apache webserver, and it deinstalled php in the process 21:10 < schasi> uh 21:10 < blindcoder> and with emerge I wanted to install vim and it wanted to compile XFree86 first... 21:10 < blindcoder> USE="-X" was silently ignored 21:11 < blindcoder> same with emerge nethack 21:11 < blindcoder> that was when I left gentoo alone again 21:11 < schasi> hm 21:12 < schasi> and installed ur software by hand 21:12 < blindcoder> and continued using ROCK :-) 21:12 < schasi> well you love ur rock do u? 21:12 < blindcoder> thing is 21:12 < schasi> is rock easy to use? 21:12 < blindcoder> Build-Pkf andles compile-time dependencies already 21:12 < schasi> let me give an exampel 21:12 < blindcoder> Build-Pkg 21:13 < schasi> suse is "easy to use" because its easily installed 21:13 < schasi> gentoo is almost easy to use, because of its good docs 21:14 < schasi> dont you think rock will make similar mistakes if its solving dependencies? 21:14 < blindcoder> I don't think ROCK fits in any of these "ease-of-use" cotegories 21:14 < schasi> so its not easily installed and doesnt have good documentation? 21:15 < blindcoder> I don't think so. There were always strong voices when the topic of dep-solving came up 21:15 < blindcoder> Someone who never touched Linux won't be able to get ROCK up and running. 21:16 < schasi> well that would be me almost 21:16 < schasi> what do i need to get rock up and running? 21:16 < esden> re hi all 21:16 < blindcoder> Also, someone who hasn't a basic knowledge about how the packages he wants to use are configured, won't be able to get ROCK up and runing either.\ 21:16 < blindcoder> esden: wb 21:16 < esden> sigh ... alx is such a brabbler ... 21:16 < blindcoder> esden: jepp :) 21:17 < esden> he was here since 17:30 ... 21:17 < blindcoder> schasi: A CD-Writer, some bandwidth and the will to get it up and running. 21:17 < blindcoder> esden: hrr 21:17 < dexter> hi esden 21:17 < schasi> do you think i would be able to get rock up? isnt there any "am i able to get rock up" test? 21:17 < dexter> 15 min before the first iso-image is downloaded 21:17 < blindcoder> schasi: no, there isn't one yet. But I think the installation takes care of that :D 21:17 < dexter> hmm 3 hours for the first two 21:18 < schasi> lol 21:18 < blindcoder> but the installation has made huge progress since I last tried 21:18 < blindcoder> (had to install every package manually back then >_<) 21:19 < esden> blindcoder: you mean 1.7 early times ... since mine was implemented? 21:19 < blindcoder> esden: yes 21:19 < esden> ahh ok 21:19 < schasi> anyone not german-speaking here? 21:19 < blindcoder> sooner times, few months before 2.0-beta1 21:19 < blindcoder> schasi: a few... not many, though 21:20 < esden> but I always typed for i in `ls <packetdir>` ; do mine -i -R /trg $i ; done 21:20 < esden> that was making the manual installation much easier ;-) 21:20 < schasi> so why does everyone speak englisch? we are not a minority here 21:21 < esden> no ... bet here are also other people that are not speaking german 21:21 < esden> and we all can speak english ... so that all are satisfied 21:21 < blindcoder> at creation-time we declared LANG="en_US" here because else ROCK might be branded a "german-only" Distribution 21:22 < schasi> i cant speak english 21:22 < blindcoder> well, you do very good for that :-) 21:22 < schasi> thx i try my best 21:22 < esden> blindcoder: ack 21:22 < blindcoder> esden: you'll be in IN tomorrow? 21:22 < esden> blindcoder: nope 21:22 < blindcoder> hrrm 21:22 < esden> I will bi in in an monday first ... why? 21:23 < blindcoder> esden: in case I decided to do something to know whom I can call :) 21:23 < schasi> --> come to #rocklinux | the channel for learning linux AND english | join now <-- 21:23 < esden> blindcoder: sorry ... that I will be not on that list ... but you can call me anyways ;-) 21:24 < esden> I will be happy about that ;-) 21:24 * -> esden -> shaving ;-) 21:24 < schasi> anyone using xchat? 21:24 < dexter> yep 21:25 < schasi> how to switch between channels by keyboard? 21:25 < dexter> I have no idea, i never go to IRC channels 21:26 < blindcoder> dexter: erm... you are on one right now :-) 21:26 < dexter> this is one of those few moments that I do 21:26 < schasi> anyone else using xchat? 21:26 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: sirio_, mnemoc 21:26 -!- Netsplit over, joins: sirio_ 21:27 < dexter> I usualy go to a MOO 21:27 < schasi> wtf is a moo? 21:27 < dexter> a MUD:-) 21:28 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has joined #rocklinux 21:29 < schasi> and what is that? 21:30 < dexter> an enviroment where you can chat and where you can build rooms, and make programs 21:30 < dexter> all things there are objects 21:30 < dexter> it is actually a object orientated enviroment 21:30 < dexter> so is the programming language there 21:30 < schasi> the main homepage? 21:32 < dexter> hmm if your interested in you own MOO enviroment I dont know where you can download it, but you can login to demetro.nl 8888 21:32 * -> esden back 21:32 < schasi> why own moo env? 21:32 < schasi> i dont get exactly what moo is 21:33 < blindcoder> moo is a Multi-User-Dungeon 21:34 < blindcoder> esden: wb 21:34 < blindcoder> again 21:34 < blindcoder> :) 21:34 < dexter> MUD Object Orientated (MUD=Multi User Dungeon) 21:34 < blindcoder> a MUD is something like a text-adventure. Just that you are not alone, but it's multiplayer 21:34 < blindcoder> in it's simplest form, it's a multiplayer text adventure 21:34 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@Mix-Nancy-105-2-145.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 21:34 < DeElsasser> re 21:35 < esden> blindcoder: hehe ... I was away to cut my face a bit with something sharp ;-) 21:35 < DeElsasser> ping Mike1 21:36 < blindcoder> esden: hrm... I also have something sharp to cut your face with *takes out a small tooth-pick (One-Handed Sword called Excalibur) 21:36 < esden> mhhh ... I did not know that it is so sharp ... 21:36 < schasi> are there any screenshots`? 21:36 * -> esden takes out his lockpicking tools ;-) 21:36 < esden> they are sharper ;-) 21:37 < esden> rofl polish flag on loveparade ;-) 21:37 < esden> that is something that I like ! 21:39 * -> esden has to organize a polish flag for 19C3 ;-) 21:39 < esden> argh 21:39 < esden> I mean 20C3 21:40 < owl> netrunne1: are you here? 21:44 < dexter> arg mozilla crashes 21:44 < schasi> on ur rock? 21:45 < dexter> no on slackware 21:45 < schasi> i know mozilla to crash on suse 21:45 < dexter> i'am still downloading rock:-) 21:45 * -> esden 's mozilla is not crashing ;-) 21:45 < esden> my mozilla may have an uptime of some weeks already ... 21:45 < schasi> i dont think thats because ur using rock 21:45 * -> esden needs an uptime command for his mozilla ;-) 21:46 < dexter> i get everything to crash:-) 21:46 < esden> schasi: sure it is because I am using rock ... why else ? *vbeg* 21:46 < esden> dexter: so you are a bogon emitter ;-) 21:46 < schasi> you are 21:47 < dexter> uhm bogon? 21:48 < esden> yes the big electrons that are clogging the wires in your processor 21:48 < dexter> hehehe:-) 21:48 < esden> you need someone who is emitting cluons 21:48 < esden> if cluons get in contact with bogons they reduce their size so that they fit through the wires perfectly 21:49 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@Mix-Nancy-105-2-145.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ("Client exiting") 21:51 < esden> hmm ... /me is asking himself where the lt crue is ... is noone of them online? 21:52 < dexter> I'am a very big bogon there is no cluon that can reduce my size enough 21:54 < dexter> if I don't get mozilla to crash on rock I'll put a rock banner on my website:-) 21:55 < esden> I think linus cluons are good enough to fix that ;-) 21:55 < dexter> hmmm okee that may do the trick-) 21:56 < mnemoc> dexter: mozilla will not crash :) 21:57 < dexter> hehe your all in denial i gues:-) 21:58 < mnemoc> i'm using mozilla right now... with no crashes 21:59 < dexter> I believe you, but I get it to crash every day 21:59 < mnemoc> you are not rocking yet ;) 21:59 < mnemoc> bbl 22:00 < owl> hm... guys... you make something wrong... move your computer to outside... enjoy the cool day. the candle. the wine... look into the moon and think... 22:00 < owl> *sigh* 22:01 < dexter> still 2 iso-images to go 22:01 < dexter> I have no time to go outside I have to watch how the download progresses;-) 22:04 < esden> dexter: download rate? 22:05 < dexter> 54KB/sec 22:05 < esden> that is not much... 22:05 < schasi> do you have to download manually or what? 22:05 < esden> schasi: he is probably writing down every bit by hand on paper and then typing it back on his machine ;-) 22:06 < schasi> or printing it and than scanning it in on another machine 22:06 < esden> schasi: something like that 22:06 < schasi> but then 54 kb... respect 22:06 < dexter> I download the ISO-Images manually, I tried downloading the sources by ./scripts/Download ... and then build it but it dit not work 22:06 < esden> dexter: what went wrong? 22:08 < dexter> hmm it could not build the 2.4.bla kernel I believe, I did not pay much attention to it because it was advised somewhere that I could build it better on a ROCK machine, thats why I'am downloading the images 22:09 < dexter> I see that i still have the errors on screen in a terminal window 22:09 < dexter> interested? 22:09 < schasi> why are there different stages like in gentoo? are they comparable? 22:09 < esden> rofl the answer from fake on nikolaus mail is very nice ;-) 22:10 < esden> dexter: yes you are right rock is best built on rock ... it would be nice if someone invested some time to change that ... 22:10 < esden> dexter: on debian you can build rock too without too much time investment 22:11 < schasi> why is it so hard to build rock on a not-rock-machine? 22:12 < dexter> you need devfs for instance which is not a standard on all distributions 22:12 < schasi> devfs? wtf is that`? 22:13 < esden> because rock has a lot of sh scripts that use a lot of functionality ... and most distributions overpatch their programs or have too old versions of programs that leads to problems 22:13 < esden> and rock uses devfs .. nearly no other distribution does that 22:13 < esden> not even gentoo is using devfs propperly ... 22:14 < esden> they only have devfs in combination with devfsd in MAKE_OLD_CO 22:14 < esden> argh 22:14 < schasi> and why does rock use devfs? because no other distro is using it? 22:14 < esden> MAKE_OLD_COMPAT 22:14 < dexter> I believe devfs is going to replace the old devices structure in /dev 22:15 < esden> no because that is a very good solution ... and has many advantages over the old dev system 22:15 < blindcoder> I don't want to miss devfs anymore 22:15 * -> esden nither 22:15 < schasi> anyone a good devfs page? 22:15 < esden> it is easy ond clean 22:16 < esden> schasi: less /usr/src/linux/Documentation/filesystems/devfs/README 22:16 < esden> *g* 22:16 < schasi> ond thats no other fs? 22:16 < schasi> esden: no linux am start 22:16 < schasi> atm 22:18 < schasi> tippt ihr euch da net den arsch ab beim mounten? 22:18 < esden> https://apollo.bingo-ev.de/~weasel/README 22:19 < esden> schasi: no ... tab is your friend ;-) 22:19 < schasi> rofl 22:19 < schasi> no aliases? 22:19 < blindcoder> schasi: no, because it's much easier to remember 22:19 < blindcoder> /dev/discs/disc0/part1 is much easier remember than /dev/sda1 22:20 < esden> mount /d<tab>/di<tab>/<tab>0/p<tab>3 22:20 < schasi> and why is /dev messed up? 22:20 < schasi> rofl 22:20 < esden> it is more then on the old system ... but it is much more intuitive 22:20 < esden> and there is only the stuff that really exists 22:20 < esden> and you do not have to search anywhere else which partitions exist and which discs 22:21 < dexter> If I'am not mistaken you will find in the README the reasons for changing to this filesystem 22:21 < schasi> is there a command like "mount everything mountable"? 22:21 < schasi> yes i will read it in a second 22:21 < esden> schasi: mount -a 22:22 < schasi> esden: im not running linux atm 22:22 < esden> schasi: is there a c command do_what_I_want_you_to_do_and_give_back_what_I_need() ?? 22:22 < schasi> i dunno 22:22 < schasi> but i guess not.. 22:23 < esden> *ROFL* good guess *dying_from_loughing* 22:23 < blindcoder> esden: okay, could you please implement it? :) 22:23 < schasi> well just think about it 22:23 < esden> blindcoder: sure ... but first I need your brain ;-) 22:23 < owl> https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzkultur/0,1518,254875,00.html << *rofl* (sorry, german only) 22:23 < esden> only your brain without the shell ;-) 22:23 < blindcoder> #define do_what_I_want_you_to_do_and_give_back_what_I_need() return 1; 22:23 < schasi> you have 2 drives and 2 harddrives 22:24 < dexter> lets make it a button and call it do_what_i_want_button 22:24 < schasi> you type mount all or something like that 22:24 < schasi> and he mounts it for you 22:24 < esden> and besides ... I do not really want to mount swap partitions ;-) 22:24 < schasi> thats what i thought of 22:25 < schasi> are you sure? 22:25 < esden> i only want to activate them ... that is a big difference to mounting 22:26 < esden> (hehe ... the love parade sound is very good !!! I love it ;-) ) 22:26 < dexter> love parade? berlin? now? 22:26 < esden> dexter: ack 22:27 * -> esden watching viva ;-) 22:27 < Mike1> re all 22:28 < esden> re Mike1 !!! may our beloved god bless you!!! 22:28 < esden> ;-) 22:28 < Mike1> esden: thanks brother, same to you 22:30 < esden> hmm ... I think there are no techno rockers in here beisdes me ... :-/ 22:30 < Mike1> so what does it make me? 22:31 < esden> o_O 22:31 < esden> Mike1: since when do you hear techno? o_O 22:31 < esden> I missed something? 22:31 < Mike1> i guess you do 22:31 < dexter> hmm I like trance and hardstyle, I usually don't listen to techno 22:31 < esden> house ... trance rulez! 22:32 < esden> dexter: techno is an overtopic 22:32 < esden> for all that 22:32 < dexter> are you sure I really thought it was a different style 22:32 < esden> my favorites are hardhouse, vocal house, goa trance and psychadelic trance 22:32 < esden> dexter: the clasic techno is something different yes ;-) 22:33 -!- dennis [dennis@pD950E353.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:33 < dennis> hi 22:33 < esden> but I understand under techno all the other styles from shranz to vocal house 22:33 < owl> hi dennis ! :) 22:33 < esden> hi dennis 22:33 < dexter> hi dennis 22:34 < dexter> I bought today the missing cd out of my In Trance We Trust collection 22:35 * -> esden not buying cd's ;-) 22:35 < owl> O_o the bots are answering :p 22:35 * -> esden listening to web radios most of the time 22:35 < esden> owl: o_O 22:36 < owl> esden: *g* don't mind... /me is just chilling and drinking ;ppp 22:36 < esden> owl our poor alcohol kid *sigh* 22:37 < dennis> for real chillout music look here: https://www.br-shop.de/main.cfm?nav=details&art_id=2203 :D 22:37 < dexter> drinking problems? still using windows? 22:37 < owl> esden: eh. it's just a bit of wine... mixed with orange juice - and my parents mixed it for me :p 22:38 < schasi> well you are old enough 22:38 < esden> dennis: hehe ... yes space night is very good chillout music 22:38 * blindcoder going to bed now 22:39 < blindcoder> g'night 22:39 < dennis> if you wanna have a copy tell me i bought the cd ;) 22:39 < dennis> gn8 blindcoder 22:39 < esden> n8 blindcoder 22:39 < dexter> gn8 blindcoder 22:39 < owl> gn8 blindcoder 22:39 < schasi> what "überkategorie" does club-house have? 22:40 < esden> schasi: house? ... dunno 22:40 < owl> hm. gothic is also a bit of chillout music imho... or classical musik is great, too 22:40 < schasi> of course 22:41 < owl> waaaaaaaaaaah! my neighbours are now playing pop-musik *crying* 22:41 < schasi> rofl 22:41 < owl> schasi: *kick* 22:41 < schasi> pooooor owl 22:41 < schasi> haha 22:42 < owl> pfff. .oO(men...) 22:43 < schasi> rofl .oO(women...hihi) 22:43 < owl> pff 22:45 < dexter> btw if I choose to optimise for lets say a pentium 3, will it optimes the complete distribution for this cpu or only the kernel 22:45 < esden> hehe ... I can play you some djmixes owl ;-) good trance and house stuff ;-) 22:46 < esden> dexter: it is for all packets in the target you selected 22:46 < esden> not only kernel 22:46 < esden> dexter: see man gcc to make you clear about that topic ;-) 22:48 < dexter> I wonder dutch dj's are very populair in many countries, are they also in germany? 22:49 < schasi> where are you from dexter? 22:50 < esden> dexter: not that I know of ... sorry 22:50 < owl> esden: nah... gothic is better. /me np: wolfsheim - kuenstliche welten *sigh* 22:51 < dexter> why are some names yellow?? sorry I'am a IRC newbe 22:52 < dexter> schasi:I'am from the netherlands 22:52 < esden> dexter: the names that are quoting your nick ... and/or the names that are using /me command 22:52 < esden> for example 22:52 * -> esden is in a very good mood 22:53 * owl too 22:53 * schasi asks himself why esden could be in such a good mood 22:53 * dexter uhm test? 22:53 < dexter> aaah 22:53 < schasi> are you enlightened now? 22:54 * dexter can see the light now 22:55 < esden> hmm ... a dim light at the end of a tunnel is normally indicating that you are dead ;-) 22:55 < owl> waaaah. switch the light off please. it's too "hell" 22:55 < dexter> hahaha:-) 22:55 < esden> owl: hell = bright 22:55 < owl> hm? 22:56 < esden> owl: please use dict !!!!! 22:56 < owl> esden: thx. my brain is not able to work anymore. 22:56 < schasi> light... to....bright....to....code 22:56 < owl> esden: why should i? i simly dould leave #rocklinux again 22:56 < schasi> something like that? 22:56 < esden> erm ... multiple use of exclimation marks is a sure indication of a diseased mind ... 22:56 < esden> humm 22:56 < schasi> i guess im the only one using windows in here? 22:57 < esden> owl: ??? no, do not leave #rocklinux we need you ... ;-) but use dict please 22:57 < schasi> wtf is an exclimation mark? 22:57 < esden> *GG* 22:57 < owl> esden: nah. 22:57 < dexter> well I have a laptop with XP 22:57 < schasi> oh 22:57 < schasi> i thought i was alone 22:57 * owl ph34rs dexter 22:57 < schasi> *puuh* 22:57 < esden> schasi: exclamation mark is that -> ! 22:57 < Mike1> hi owly 22:57 < owl> hi Miguel :) 22:57 < dexter> umh? ph34rs? 22:58 < esden> roe miky my brother! ;-) *hug* 22:58 < owl> *lol* 22:58 < Mike1> owl: esden und ich are borthers.. 22:58 * owl shares the bottle of wine with #rocklinux . someone wants? fake maybe? 22:59 < schasi> dexter: ph34rs = fears 22:59 < owl> borthers... borders? borderliner? *har* 22:59 < schasi> oh well 22:59 < esden> ph34r my n4kk3d 3x(l4m4t10n m4rks ;-) 22:59 < schasi> nooooo 22:59 < owl> *lol* 22:59 < esden> schasi: do you know megatokyo? 22:59 < schasi> y0u 4r3 t00 1337 4 us 22:59 < schasi> not really? 23:00 < esden> schasi: www.megatokyo.com 23:00 < esden> schasi: yes I know that I am too 1337 for this world ;-) *rofl* 23:01 < esden> schasi: megatokyo is a very nice web comic with a high addiction factor 23:01 -!- dennis [dennis@pD950E353.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit () 23:01 < schasi> FUCK please tell this to me before you send me to this page 23:01 * dexter needs XP to be really glad that he has also linux 23:01 < schasi> im an mange anime fan 23:02 < schasi> *addictionbegins...* 23:02 < praenti> re 23:02 < praenti> and hi 23:02 < schasi> esden: you know userfriendly.org? 23:03 < esden> schasi: hehe ... *rofl* ... good that you are an anime fan ... you will like megatokyo even more ;-) 23:03 < esden> schasi: hehe ... sure I know it ;-) 23:03 < esden> hi praenti !!! 23:03 < schasi> im a comic fan to be exact 23:03 < schasi> woa i loooove it 23:03 < schasi> adoration 23:03 < esden> praenti: finally on LT? 23:03 < schasi> my everyday-comic 23:03 < schasi> you know reallifecomics.com esden? 23:03 < praenti> no. back in IN 23:03 < esden> schasi: I had a lurk in it ... but I do not read that regulary 23:04 < esden> praenti: ahh right 23:04 < esden> praenti: how was the day? 23:04 < esden> how is LT? have you pics? 23:04 < esden> praenti: do you know www.digitallyimported.com ? 23:05 < praenti> no and no (have no digi-cam) 23:05 * -> esden weeps 23:06 < praenti> argl. if i had organized my trip to LT much better, i would know that clifford also drives through IN... 23:06 < esden> praenti: digitallyimported is a nice collection of pretty good house/trance and other styles web radios 23:06 < esden> praenti: so why have you not came back with clifford then? 23:06 < praenti> so if i had know that, i had s.th. to sleep there and would be on LT tomorrow. sheiße... 23:07 < schasi> esden, what does weep mean in germanß 23:07 < esden> schasi: weinen 23:07 < praenti> esden: that was the main problem. nothing to sleep... 23:08 < esden> schasi: https://dict.leo.org/?search=weep 23:08 < esden> praenti: who needs anything to sleep? ... 23:08 < schasi> is there any leo plugin or something like that? 23:08 < esden> praenti: floor is good enough 23:08 < praenti> esden: urgl. 23:08 < schasi> sorry was too lazy to surf the page... have to change from keyboard to mouse to do that 23:08 < praenti> no not me 23:09 < praenti> cant sleep on the hard floor 23:09 < praenti> and the second problem was that i've promised to be in the tanzbar tomorrow 23:10 < schasi> how to start an internetpage from xchat? is that possible? 23:13 < praenti> ok. i will now go to bed. very tired after this day 23:13 < praenti> gn8 23:13 < schasi> n8 23:13 < dexter> gn8 praenti 23:14 < owl> gn8 praenti 23:14 < esden> ok I go to bed 23:14 < esden> good night everyone 23:14 < dexter> gn8 esden 23:14 < owl> gn8 esden *hug* 23:14 < esden> *rehug* 23:15 < schasi> sleep well 23:15 < Mike1> cu esden 23:15 * Mike1 hugs owl 23:17 * owl hugs Mike1 23:17 * schasi hugs all 23:17 < dexter> still 1 hour and a half to go 23:17 < dexter> gn8 schasi 23:17 < schasi> until what? 23:17 < schasi> well im not going yet 23:17 < dexter> until the download is completed 23:17 * owl hides from schasi 's hug 23:18 * schasi wants to know why owl hides 23:19 < dexter> she doesn't hug with strangers;-) 23:19 < owl> because i'm hating to be touched by people. ( esden , blindcoder and Mike1 are the only who are allowed to do) 23:20 < schasi> oh well 23:21 < Mike1> :) 23:22 < owl> shit. am i drunken *har. that will be a nice headache tomorrow. Aard - do you still have some tomaphyrin? or did fake consume all of them? 23:23 < tcr> re all 23:23 < owl> wb tcr 23:23 < dexter> hi tcr 23:24 < schasi> knoti: you there? 23:24 < owl> .oO( today is a good day *jumping around*) 23:25 < tcr> Anything interesting within the last 2hours? 23:28 < schasi> nope 23:28 < owl> hm. depends what you define as interesting :p 23:29 < dexter> i really need more bandwidth 23:29 < dexter> still 1 hour and 17 min to go 23:31 < schasi> i need a wm for mostly keyboard only. any propositions? 23:32 < dexter> wm? 23:32 < dexter> Window Manager? 23:32 < schasi> window manager/window maker 23:33 < schasi> kde is well supported and so on, but i need the mouse too often 23:34 < schasi> so i search for a good alternative 23:34 < tcr> schasi: ratpoison 23:35 < dexter> if you use only your terminal screen you don not need a mouse at all! 23:35 < tcr> It's the true one and only wm, ever. 23:35 < dexter> even mp3players can be used from the commandline 23:35 < schasi> dexter: i want to use x, off course 23:35 < schasi> i know, but i want my xmms ^^ 23:35 < schasi> and something with tabs like mozilla 23:37 < dexter> uhm you can also use tabs on the commandline (hehehe) 23:38 < schasi> rofl 23:38 < schasi> i want X 23:39 < dexter> okee use X and open a terminal screen;-) 23:39 < tcr> ratpoison is a kinda rewrite of screen in the form of a window manager 23:39 < tcr> The true one and only, as I said 23:41 < owl> hm... ION too 23:41 < tcr> Nope ION isn't aimed to be a kinda screen replacement 23:42 < tcr> Though it can be entirely controlled via keyboard 23:42 < owl> hm. yes 23:43 < schasi> so what, ion or ratpoison? 23:43 < tcr> Try both. 23:44 < schasi> oh 23:44 < schasi> and if i compile rock i need ewig 23:44 < owl> *lol* denglish... 23:44 < schasi> of course 23:45 < schasi> my brain is defective 23:45 < owl> hm 23:46 < schasi> im happy if i remember the german words 23:47 < schasi> it would take ages if i compile rock 23:47 < schasi> satisfied? 23:48 < dexter> ewig habe ich auch verstanden uhm or something like that;-) 23:48 < tcr> Exactly that, was correct :) 23:50 * dexter knows some german 23:51 < dexter> 55 min to go 23:56 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M271P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 23:57 < Mike1> hi n00kie 23:58 < owl> hi n00kie 23:58 < dexter> hi nOOkie 23:59 < schasi> main difference between ion and ratpoison? looks the sam for me on the first look 23:59 < dexter> hmm some german influence! ... rammstein! on mp3 --- Log closed Sun Jul 13 00:00:18 2003