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--- Log opened Tue Jul 22 00:00:59 2003 --- Day changed Tue Jul 22 2003 00:01 -!- danii [~dani@ipDynErx74-161.clients.easynet.fr] has joined #rocklinux 00:01 -!- danii [~dani@ipDynErx74-161.clients.easynet.fr] has left #rocklinux () 00:04 -!- ringo78 [~ringo78@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has quit ("zzzzzzz") 00:08 -!- jose [~jose@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux 00:08 < rxr> re 00:08 < jose> helos! 00:12 < SMP> re rxr 00:12 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA0C1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:16 < Mike1> SMP. 00:16 * jose is being ignored, but he doesn't know why! (sleep 15; /leave #rocklinux) ;-( 00:17 < Mike1> jose: https://odin.informatica.co.cr/~mike/mamadita.txt 00:17 < Mike1> :) 00:18 < SMP> hi Mike 00:19 < Mike1> cu all. 00:19 < jose> cu Mike1 00:19 < Mike1> jose: lee el chiste :) 00:20 < rxr> h iMi 00:20 < rxr> hi Mike1 00:20 < Mike1> yo rxr 00:21 < jose> Mike1 yep, a good one! 00:21 < esden> hi all 00:22 < esden> anyone still alive? 00:22 < jose> you guys have included sing in rock ? 00:22 < esden> sing? 00:22 * -> esden can not sing ;-) 00:23 < jose> yep, it's a ping utility!=> https://sourceforge.net/projects/sing 00:24 < esden> hmm ... I do not have sing on my box 00:26 < jose> well, thats nice package !, but i really dont know the way rock is taking now! so!... /me better keep quiet! 00:34 < SMP> hmm, xscreensaver made my cursor bold 00:41 < rxr> hm? 00:43 < rxr> oO - the gsmp traffic is getting higher each day ... 00:43 < rxr> we now have "148.68 GB" this month so far ... 00:43 < rxr> both last days had 12GB each .. 00:44 -!- knoti [~knoti@p508B2031.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:44 < SMP> *fucking* svn 00:45 < SMP> W T F 00:46 < SMP> rxr: you moved package/powerpc to the wrong place 00:47 < rxr> hae ? 00:47 < SMP> arrgh 00:48 < SMP> my svn tree is completely fucked up 00:48 < SMP> it started checking out the contents of package/ in the root 00:49 < rxr> oOo ... 00:49 < rxr> user error ? 00:51 < rxr> ping ? 00:52 < esden> good night everyone 00:52 < SMP> I ran: 00:52 < SMP> svn up -N package/gnome14/ 00:52 < rxr> godd night esden 00:52 < SMP> svn up package/gnome14/guppi 00:52 < SMP> svn rm --force package/gnome14/guppi 00:52 < SMP> svn up package/gnome14/guppi 00:52 < SMP> svn up package/gnome14 00:53 < SMP> svn up package/gnome14/guppi 00:53 < SMP> mkdir package/gnome14/guppi 00:53 < SMP> svn add package/gnome14/guppi 00:53 < SMP> svn up package/gnome14/guppi 00:54 < rxr> why all this ? 00:54 < SMP> blah! and then some other stuff 00:54 -!- jose [~jose@196.40.45.146] has quit ("[BX] Tiger Woods uses BitchX. FORE!") 00:54 < SMP> because I had my changes added and that conflicts with my patches applied by you 00:55 < rxr> a simple rm -r package/gnome14/guppi 00:55 < rxr> and svn up package/gnome14/guppi 00:55 < rxr> would have been enought ... 00:55 < rxr> should I try all this on a box here to see if the error is reproduceable ? 00:56 < SMP> no, there was some other stuff I did 00:56 < SMP> I don't care. I have my changes in pending patches because I don't trust svn anyway, so I'll just throw the tree away 00:57 < rxr> why don't you trust SVN ? During the last 600 revisions I had not a single problem - neither client nor server side ... 00:58 < SMP> two words: complex technology 00:58 < jsaw_> the seq "rm", "add", "up" is problematic. 00:59 < SMP> if I remember correctly, 'rm -rf' and 'svn up' is not sufficient either 01:00 < jsaw_> you may have to " 01:00 < jsaw_> svn cleanup" 01:00 < rxr> SMP: ok - complex technology is a valid point 01:01 * rxr just wiped out one of the disk in the RS/600 01:01 < rxr> +0 01:02 < rxr> palying with not-that-well documented boot loaders is not that funny ... 01:03 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090AD01.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01:12 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD95225C6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:18 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090B1D2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:34 < mnemoc> did gtk# patch arrived to the list? (two hours ago) 01:38 < rxr> I coudl open a IBM RS/6000 centre when I got thru all the "how to install a bootloader" trouble ... 01:38 < jsaw_> :) 01:38 < rxr> I rebooted the box the whole day 01:38 < rxr> and I'm still booting from a floppy ... 01:39 < rxr> mnemoc: the last mail from you here in my box was "[PATCH] unification of mono-..." 01:40 < rxr> wheeeeeeeee 01:41 < rxr> coooool now - finally - I see yaboot output in the OpenFirmeare prompt !!! 01:41 < rxr> Yeah. 01:41 < jsaw_> congrats 01:42 < rxr> cool - reiserfs access logs from yaboot scrolling by ... 01:42 < rxr> I already enabled full debugging in yaboot ... 01:42 < mnemoc> resent :( 01:42 < mnemoc> hi rxr 01:43 < rxr> did s.o. here know that a // in some tex-tools results in recursive search in all the subdirs? 01:43 < jsaw_> ? 01:44 < rxr> kpathsea 01:45 < rxr> I wondered why tetex s.th. scans all my home directory recursively - and since this was really annoying started debugging 01:45 < rxr> my HOME dir was accidently set to /home/rene/ (notice trailing slash) 01:45 < jsaw_> o_O 01:45 < rxr> so the tetex internals made a /home/rene//texmf out of it - and this // has the special meaning of recursive scanning the dir ... 01:46 < rxr> wow - the RS6000 now runs a kernel booted via yaboot 01:47 < jsaw_> yes. usb scan now detects joydev, mousedev etc. 02:26 < jsaw_> cu l8r 02:31 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@IP-213157026213.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has quit (":x") 02:51 -!- knoti [~knoti@p508B2031.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03:09 < mistik1> evening folks 03:12 < jsaw_> hey, somebody else is awake, hi mistik1 03:12 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw 03:13 * rxr is awake, too ... 03:13 < rxr> but only a few more minutes. 03:13 < jsaw> oh 03:14 < rxr> this rs6000 kept me awake - X is not yet running in a useful "mode" 03:14 < rxr> of operation ... 03:14 < rxr> cu after sleep - n8 03:15 < jsaw> but at least the box is running... 03:15 < jsaw> gn8 rxr 03:15 < rxr> it is already running longer - it already crunched a wohle install target and a half system (desktop) target 03:15 < jsaw> ! 03:15 < rxr> but since the old 1.3.11 (or .9 or so) was to limitating I exchanged the root fs to the new fresh build ... 03:16 < rxr> but since we have a rather polished ppc port deu to this iBook - it is just compiling it together - and everything run smoothly now - exept X11 on that Matrox card. 03:17 < rxr> in the next days I'll let the RS/6000 and the iBook build ROCK in a cluster - so I'll have more up-to-date ppc binaries in-time ... 03:18 < rxr> the only difference between the two boxes is the boot-up ... ;-) 03:18 < rxr> (and a modern and faster CPU in the iBook) 03:18 < mistik1> esden: you around> 03:18 < rxr> so cu - good night. 03:18 < jsaw> l8 03:19 < mistik1> g`night rxr 03:24 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 03:56 < mistik1> anyone still up? 04:02 < jsaw> yep 04:04 < jsaw> mistik1: are u running current rock? 04:14 -!- fake [~fake@pD9E4DAB8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:20 < mistik1> jsaw: I'm not running rock at all yet 04:20 < mistik1> I'm downloading some ISOs now 04:21 < mistik1> rock seems to have a little gotcha to it 04:21 < mnemoc> ? 04:21 < mistik1> I was thinking I could start with a source build of my own... 04:22 < mistik1> the docs however say I need to do the build on a rock machine 04:22 < mnemoc> install a minimal, and over that build your own 04:22 < jsaw> for the non-native english speakers (/me), please rephrase the "gotcha" sentence 04:22 < mnemoc> you need an updated linux with devfs 04:22 < mistik1> whatever did people before there were iso 04:23 < mnemoc> i build my first rock over a rh6.2 04:23 < mistik1> mnemoc: Is that all it is? 04:23 < mnemoc> linux with devfs and curl mainly 04:23 < mistik1> darnit why not say so in the BUILD 04:24 < mnemoc> it doesn't? 04:24 < jsaw> I build it over SuSE whatever, but it was a pain ita to convince it to use devfs... 04:24 < mistik1> wasted 24 hours of posable build time 04:24 < mnemoc> devfs is the harder step 04:24 < mistik1> mnemoc: no it doesn;t 04:24 < mistik1> devfs is cheese 04:25 < mnemoc> and the harder ;) 04:25 < jsaw> mnemoc: would u dare to try rockplug from svn? 04:25 < jsaw> mistik1: devfs is cheese, why that? 04:25 < mnemoc> i don't have enough devices to make my test useful 04:25 < mistik1> jsaw: english slang meaning easy 04:26 < jsaw> mnemoc: doesn't matter. every tester counts (but _of course_ no obligation) 04:26 < mnemoc> mistik1: one important thing... avoid gcc2.96 04:26 < jsaw> mistik1: thx 04:26 < mnemoc> gcc2.95 is fine 04:27 < mistik1> ok 04:27 < mistik1> what of 3.x? 04:28 < mistik1> the minimal iso is here now anyway 04:28 < jsaw> 3.2.x is fine 04:28 < mistik1> do you guys have an email addy for esden ? 04:28 < mistik1> I believe he was the one working on a uClibc target 04:29 < mistik1> that is what i'm truly after in the end 04:29 < mistik1> I'm going to try the dietlibc target also but I preffer uClibc 04:29 < jsaw> esden is at rocklinux dot org 04:29 < mnemoc> mail the list... many ppl has worked with uclibc 04:29 < mistik1> I will join tonight 04:30 < mistik1> lemme go do that now 04:30 < mnemoc> but calm down... build a normal rock before 04:30 < mnemoc> make uclibc your only problem, not the whole rock idea 04:39 < mistik1> oh dont fear, I first must understand the system I admit 04:39 < mistik1> I'll be taking my time 04:39 < mistik1> brb, burning iso 04:42 < mnemoc> what target? 04:42 < mnemoc> minimal? 04:45 < mistik1> yes 04:47 * jsaw needs a few hours of sleep 04:48 < jsaw> cu guys 04:48 < mnemoc> gn8 jsaw 04:49 < jsaw> gn8 mnemoc, gn8 mistik1 (have fun, I do since having switched to rock) 04:49 < jsaw> .oO(well, let's say more fun) 04:52 < mistik1> l8r jsaw 04:53 < mistik1> ouch! 04:53 < mistik1> no 3c905 driver on this disc 04:53 < mistik1> oh well no big deal I have other cards that are there 05:01 < mnemoc> mistik1: it has every single kernel module on it 05:03 < mnemoc> and iirc that specific driver is built-in 05:05 < mnemoc> # grep VORTEX .config 05:05 < mnemoc> CONFIG_VORTEX=y 05:11 < SMP> re 05:12 < mnemoc> wb SMP 05:22 < mistik1> mnemoc: so how would I handle this at the install prompt, just press enter instead of typing driver name? 05:23 < mnemoc> but... where do u need network for iso installing? 05:23 < mistik1> I realize that I dont as the install is taking place now, I ask only for future reference 05:24 -!- fake [~fake@pD9E4D766.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:24 < mistik1> btw, I love the installer 05:25 < mistik1> It reminds me of the freeBSD tools 05:27 < mnemoc> i guess rockplug will be integrated in the installed, so no module selection will be needed 05:28 < mistik1> I need to go read more about this rockplug 05:29 < mistik1> this is the kudzu/hotplug type tool you guys were speaking on last week, yes? 05:29 < mnemoc> hotplug yes, kudzu no 05:29 < mnemoc> it detects and load modules 05:30 < mistik1> cool 05:30 < mnemoc> well... it don't load modules, it output sh code to do it 05:31 < mnemoc> modprobe foo 05:33 < mistik1> this minimal target is impressive 05:34 < mistik1> I was not expecting it to be quite this functional 05:35 < mnemoc> minimal currently is a full station without X11 and servers 05:35 < mistik1> so I see 05:49 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M297P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 05:55 < mnemoc> hi n00kie 05:57 < n00kie> Heya mnemoc :) 05:57 < n00kie> How are you? 05:58 < mnemoc> with a nice headache... and you? 05:58 < n00kie> Fine, a bit tired, thanks :) 05:59 * n00kie gives mnemoc a Anti-Headache-Pill 05:59 < mnemoc> do u have water? 05:59 < n00kie> Yeah, too 05:59 < n00kie> Do you want some? 05:59 < mnemoc> thanks ;) 05:59 < n00kie> hehe 06:06 < mistik1> wohooo 06:06 < mistik1> Rock Linux RockS!! 06:07 < mnemoc> ? 06:08 < mnemoc> exactly what makes you scream? 06:13 < n00kie> <- Breakfast :) 06:38 < n00kie> er r 06:38 < n00kie> err 06:38 < n00kie> I can't control the new toaster o_O 06:39 < mistik1> mnemoc: I've been using linux for a lot of years so I see the implications of how certain programs/tools behave very quickly indeed 06:40 < mistik1> Put this togather with how rock linux is built, I have to say now that i've seen it booted "This is what I have been looking for for years" 06:40 < mistik1> I wish to hell I had found out about rock last december, you guys may have had a very interesting target indeed 06:42 < mnemoc> it's great to hear it... :-) ... you shall send a mail to the list, there are many persons behind rocklinux and everybody needs to see other ppl value their efort 06:42 < mistik1> definately 06:43 < mnemoc> n00kie: the toaster is your friend, look at *her*, do same talk, and do it softly 06:44 < mistik1> are you familiar with SME Server (formerly E-Smith) ? 06:44 < mnemoc> nope :-( sorry 06:44 < mistik1> that's ok 06:45 < mistik1> Its a linux distro that is a server out the box 06:45 < mistik1> very simple install virtually no console work at all as it has web-based tools for the most part 06:45 < mnemoc> secure-server out the box, or just server out the box? 06:45 < mistik1> Its quite secure 06:46 < mistik1> It started as a firewall distro iirc 06:46 < n00kie> mnemoc: Hehe 06:47 < mistik1> I was asked to do something like SME for a client 06:47 < mnemoc> on 2.1 we will empower server target, but that's just a prototype, the rock idea is to make specific targets 06:47 < mistik1> They would have preffered something custom but time constraints forced me to have them go ahead and use SME 06:48 < mnemoc> you are very wellcome to get involved and contribute :) 06:49 < mnemoc> you now you clients, they fit a profile, that profile needs a target 06:49 < mistik1> this is what I mean, If I knew of rock back then I would have simply made a target(or tried to) and just reuse it 06:50 < mnemoc> one of the best parts is that you can build that target for multiple architectures and burn cds :) 06:51 < mnemoc> the sad part is that almost noone knows it :( 06:52 < mnemoc> n00kie: is 'her' doing what you want? 06:58 < n00kie> nah 06:58 < n00kie> She doesn't puts out my breads 06:59 < n00kie> reboot, new kernel 06:59 < n00kie> brb 07:00 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M297P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Lost terminal") 07:00 < mistik1> mnemoc: now that I have booted rock, I'm completely rethinking my hardware setup 07:01 < mistik1> I have a 1ghz athlon in the parts drawer and I think rock will get put there 07:02 < SMP> any opinions if I should prefer a laptop with a GeForce FX Go5600 or an ATI Radeon 7500? 07:03 * SMP thinks the latter, even if it doesn't have that much bang 07:05 < mnemoc> cool, new keepalived released with O(1) scheduler ;) 07:06 * mnemoc doesn't like Radeon :( 07:08 < SMP> well at least there are good open source drivers for the Radeon 07:08 < SMP> AFAIK only a binary-only pile of junk from NVidia 07:10 < mnemoc> great reason to choose Radeon..... 07:10 * mnemoc plays under windose :) 07:10 -!- d3mian [~demian@196.40.64.229] has joined #rocklinux 07:11 < mnemoc> hi d3mian 07:11 < d3mian> hi everyone 07:11 < mnemoc> como va la parcela? is it sold? 07:11 < d3mian> hehe, como sabes de esa finca ? 07:11 < mnemoc> you paste the link here ;) 07:11 < d3mian> and it is not sold yet 07:11 -!- Pyro [mike@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:12 < d3mian> maybe.. dunt remember :p 07:12 < Pyro> hallo 07:12 < Pyro> d3mian: wie gehts mein freund? 07:12 < mnemoc> hi Pyro 07:12 < mnemoc> export LANG=EN 07:12 < Pyro> mnemoc: hi.. guess wht i'm doing? 07:12 < d3mian> hoho, u Pyro 07:12 < d3mian> where are u connected from man ? 07:13 < Pyro> mnemoc: yeah sorry i was greeting my lazy friend d3bian :) 07:13 < d3mian> lazy :/ 07:13 < mnemoc> after a hard mental work is decide freund can mean friend ;) 07:13 < d3mian> how are u Pyro ? 07:13 < Pyro> d3mian: i'm home 07:13 < d3mian> and where from ? adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net 07:13 < Pyro> d3mian: i'm fine thanks and u ? 07:14 < d3mian> me2 07:14 < Pyro> d3mian: don't worry too much about the host :) you know me i like to be moving here and there 07:14 < Pyro> mnemoc: yes indeed freund = friend there u go your german is improving :) 07:14 < d3mian> ok.. 07:15 < Pyro> d3mian: how is Uni doing? 07:15 < blindcoder> moin 07:15 < Pyro> mnemoc: have u guessed what i am doing yet? 07:15 < Pyro> moin blindy 07:15 < mnemoc> coding? 07:15 < mnemoc> moin bc 07:15 < d3mian> Pyro: im on vacation.. tomorrow start the 'matricula' 07:15 < Pyro> mnemoc: that wasn't so hard was it :) 07:15 < d3mian> hi blindcoder 07:16 < mnemoc> :) 07:16 < Pyro> d3mian: so u are in "moncho"? 07:16 < d3mian> sure 07:16 < mnemoc> moncho? 07:16 < d3mian> from the hdw 07:16 < d3mian> the old and not maintained hdw.. 07:16 < Pyro> d3mian: i've started my own company 07:16 < Pyro> no longer working for informatica 07:16 < d3mian> which one ? 07:17 < mnemoc> hacktheworld.com? 07:17 < Pyro> d3mian: just my own stuff, i got a nice office in Alajuela, you should come by sometime 07:17 < d3mian> i started my own too.. but i havent win money since i declared it a company of a lonely man :p 07:17 < Pyro> mnemoc: very close hackdaworld.dyndns.org 07:17 < d3mian> what is it about ? 07:17 < d3mian> if u need someone to code databases and empresarial applications for windows or commercial stuff.. call me! 07:17 < blindcoder> hmm 07:18 < mnemoc> mercenary work? 07:18 < d3mian> currently i am designing a data base for some chain of video clubes here in moncho 07:18 < Pyro> d3mian: the same boring stuff, clustering, kernel hacking, embedded systems, security consuting 07:18 < mnemoc> is moncho a place? 07:18 * d3mian feels starnge saying: "applications for windows" 07:18 < d3mian> mnemoc: yes.. my sweet home 07:19 < Pyro> mnemoc: moncho = tico way to say San Ramon which is d3mian 's town 07:19 < d3mian> demian@hdw.moncho.al.cr 07:19 < Pyro> d3mian: i tried to convince mnemoc to come work with me but he didn't want to 07:19 < d3mian> that's my virtual addr 07:19 < mnemoc> San Ramón looks more like a city than 'moncho' ;) 07:19 < Pyro> mnemoc: :PP 07:20 < d3mian> Pyro: but how many people would u need ? is it really growing ? with office and that ? 07:20 < Pyro> d3mian: anyways its nice that you are taking advantage of your skills to make some moeny 07:20 < d3mian> i need money 07:20 < Pyro> d3mian: its a whole perspective, and yes it growing 07:20 < blindcoder> who doesn't? 07:20 < Pyro> d3mian: you and blindcoder should consider prostitution 07:20 < mnemoc> Pyro: prepare your company for 3 years until i got this damn Security magister ;) 07:20 < d3mian> i tried it 07:21 < d3mian> but none wanted with mme 07:21 < Pyro> well d3mian actually you have prostituted yourself already by coding for win 07:21 < d3mian> i feel obsene 07:21 < mnemoc> me too!! 07:21 < Pyro> d3mian: no worries we've known u as a freak anyways 07:21 < d3mian> Pyro: but what about singapur ? 07:22 < Pyro> mnemoc: you area whore too? 07:22 < Pyro> d3mian: things have changed .. LOTS.. 07:22 < d3mian> i really pray to leave this windows coding stuff and work in sth i like.. but i havent found a chance yet 07:22 < Pyro> d3mian: even i'm doing contracts to linuxlbas again 07:22 < d3mian> aham ? 07:22 < mnemoc> but i'll move to gtk# asaic ;) 07:22 < d3mian> can i call u by phone one of those days ? 07:23 < Pyro> mnemoc: move to asm :) 07:23 < d3mian> btw.. i never was able to code with gtk here.. got some problems with the gtk.h.. umm.. 07:23 < mnemoc> query a database with asm is not nice 07:23 < Pyro> d3mian: sure feel free to call me home, or to crnet if it is before july 30th 07:23 < Pyro> mnemoc: ah well :) 07:24 < d3mian> [ scar ] ~ > ls /opt/sources/hdw/x11/gtk+ | grep bz 07:24 < d3mian> 5988 gtk+-2.0.6.tar.bz2 07:24 < d3mian> [ scar ] ~ > 07:24 < d3mian> that fucking version is not working here 07:24 < Pyro> mnemoc: so what are u doing up this late man? 07:24 < d3mian> mnemoc: aeh ? are u trying to do that !! ? 07:24 < d3mian> mnemoc: if u do.. ur my hero 07:24 < Pyro> d3mian: please behave your tongue and be polite please 07:25 < d3mian> ok, sorry 07:25 < d3mian> the costume.. 07:25 < mnemoc> mmmmm.... i'm coding c# for web write now :( 07:25 < Pyro> mnemoc: sounds like fun 07:25 < d3mian> windows C# or C++ ? 07:25 < Pyro> mnemoc: would u prefer doing some asp? 07:25 < mnemoc> writing a control to render html/js code to select between to DateTimes 07:26 < Pyro> :)) 07:26 < mnemoc> d3mian: c# 07:26 < d3mian> btw.. how can i create scripts and task jobs in mysql ? 07:27 < d3mian> https://hackdaworld.dyndns.org/~demian/finca/ 07:28 < Pyro> d3mian: lots of fun: https://www.mysql.com/documentation/mysql/bychapter/index.html 07:28 < Pyro> :)) 07:28 < d3mian> k.. 07:29 < mnemoc> Mike always there to help :) 07:29 < Pyro> d3mian: u know the procedure as well as anyone else here, first RTFM then ask :) 07:29 < d3mian> yes 07:29 < Pyro> mnemoc: sure i am, well not been very helpfull since the last days 07:30 < Pyro> time is something i simply don't have anymore 07:30 < blindcoder> Pyro: hmm... recently I have a lot of time... 07:30 < blindcoder> nothing to do at work, even less at home 07:31 < blindcoder> at least the weekends are something to look forward to ^^ 07:31 < d3mian> i ve found and old manual in html here, ill start readingit then 07:31 < Pyro> blindcoder:so plenty of time to watch anime? lucky bastard :(( 07:31 < d3mian> why ? 07:31 < blindcoder> Pyro: can't watch anime at wrk 07:32 < Pyro> d3mian: nice photos, but hey the price is quite too expensive 07:32 < Pyro> d3mian: u should contact some real state people to sell the property 07:32 < Pyro> i could refer u to some 07:32 < d3mian> (Price is negotiable) 07:32 < Pyro> blindcoder: ok that sucks quite much 07:32 < Pyro> d3mian: do they _only_ sell the whole thing? 07:33 < Pyro> d3mian: if it is possible to sell part of it i would be interested in investing 07:33 < Pyro> but honestly i'm not that rich _yet_ to buy it all 07:33 < d3mian> no, whole territory only 07:33 < Pyro> d3mian: ok then good luck :) 07:34 < Pyro> d3mian: see query 07:34 < mnemoc> i'll go to sleep.... 07:34 < blindcoder> mnemoc: good night 07:34 < Pyro> mnemoc: why?!?! 07:35 < Pyro> mnemoc: its quite early yet 07:35 < mnemoc> i'm tired :( 07:36 < mnemoc> internal compiler error building qt31 with gcc33 :( 07:36 < Pyro> mnemoc: mhh 07:37 < Pyro> mayvbe u wanna fix it before u sleep:P 07:37 * Pyro been evil 07:37 < Pyro> mnemoc: nah i'm teasing u my freid, go get some nice sleep, i hope i have time to come by the mourning and talk a bit more. 07:37 < mnemoc> at least get a -E :) 07:38 < Pyro> -E ? 07:39 < mnemoc> the 'real' code.... after preprocesor 07:39 * blindcoder is looking forward to tomorrow 07:40 < Pyro> mnemoc: :) 07:40 < Pyro> blindcoder: why> 07:40 < mnemoc> mmmmm.... the error did not repeated :( 07:41 < blindcoder> Pyro: I've booked the Buergenetz Ingolstadt's 17 PCs for a Cluster-Build of ROCK from tomorrow until Sunday 07:41 < d3mian> are u building sth big ? 07:41 < blindcoder> 17 PCs with 700 MHz each 07:42 < blindcoder> I just hope that rxr will release -rc1 in time 07:42 < Pyro> blindcoder: pretty nice, i'm sure it will be real fun 07:42 < d3mian> it's common with me to receive "internal compiler" errors with my system buikding big things 07:42 < d3mian> like mozilla, qt, etc 07:42 < d3mian> what i do is build part of the code first, and later continue until messages dissapear 07:43 < blindcoder> Pyro: I need it for the 'toys' I prepare for CCCamp 07:43 < d3mian> dunno really what is happening.. maybe a stack problem or so 07:44 < Pyro> blindcoder: hehehe i like the fact that u and i have very similar likes for 'toys' 07:44 < mnemoc> ok... gn8 all 07:44 < mnemoc> cu 07:45 < d3mian> cu mnemoc 07:45 * d3mian leaving too 07:45 < blindcoder> hehe 07:45 < blindcoder> d3mian: byebye 07:45 < blindcoder> Pyro: so, that leaves us two alone :) 07:45 < Pyro> oh god /me hides 07:45 < Pyro> :P 07:46 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M297P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 07:46 < blindcoder> moin n00kie 07:46 < Pyro> n00kie: ! 07:48 * blindcoder has the strange feeling that he forgot something 07:48 < Pyro> anyways its late here i need to finish some code before i go to bed 07:48 < Pyro> blindy i see u in some hours ok? 07:48 < Pyro> blindcoder: to have breakfast? 07:49 < Pyro> blindcoder: btw our bday is close, what do u want? 07:49 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M297P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:50 < blindcoder> Pyro: what I want? Iwant Brigitte ^^ 07:50 < Pyro> mmm don't have here 07:50 < Pyro> anyways i will see u tomorrow 07:50 < Pyro> n8 all 07:50 < blindcoder> well... But I have... and I meet her again on Sunday ^^ 07:50 < Pyro> d3mian: dormi jumas 07:50 < blindcoder> okay, good n8 07:50 -!- Pyro [mike@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit ("leaving") 07:51 < d3mian> whois Mike1 07:51 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M293P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 07:51 < d3mian> hi n00kie 07:54 < d3mian> noaa!!! the matricule is just tomorrow!! i had to be there since today then..!! 07:54 * d3mian will travel whole night.. 07:55 < d3mian> damnit 07:55 < d3mian> :( 07:55 < d3mian> bye 07:55 -!- d3mian [~demian@196.40.64.229] has quit ("leaving") 07:55 < n00kie> hi demian :) 07:55 < n00kie> argh 08:53 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M293P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("leaving") 09:03 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@p50839BE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:05 -!- knoti [~knoti@p508B2031.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:11 < Aard> moin 09:20 < christ|an> good morning 09:20 < christ|an> :) 09:21 < knoti> moin 09:21 < knoti> I think I will get an atx case today, so I can start playing with rocklinux ;> 09:21 * knoti is happy about that. 09:37 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 09:42 -!- d3mian [~demian@196.40.64.229] has joined #rocklinux 09:43 < christ|an> hi debian - ups i mean d3mian :) 09:43 < d3mian> umm 09:43 < d3mian> hi christ|an 09:43 < christ|an> good morning 09:44 < blindcoder> wb d3mian :) 09:44 < d3mian> hello all 09:44 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:44 < owl> hi 09:46 -!- d3mian [~demian@196.40.64.229] has quit (Client Quit) 09:46 < christ|an> owl :) 09:46 < owl> hi christ|an 09:46 < christ|an> *froi* 09:48 < blindcoder> uh-oh, it' owlita 09:49 < owl> well. better /me than you.l 09:49 < owl> -l 09:49 < owl> but don't mind. will continue ignoring your comments 09:54 < blindcoder> hehe, she doesn't really ignore me :D 09:55 < owl> nah. not /ignore blindcoder . but /ignore-the-lines-written-down-by-blindcoder-and-overreading-them 09:57 < blindcoder> well you still react to my mails 09:57 < blindcoder> s/mails/lines/ 09:57 < owl> yes. 09:58 < blindcoder> hrrhrr 09:58 < blindcoder> tele 09:58 < owl> but react != react 10:00 < blindcoder> well, you _do_ react, and a reaction is all I want ^^ 10:01 < owl> well. giving you sarcastic answers != talking to you imho 10:01 < owl> but - who cares. i have my notebook with me. what else do i need? 10:03 < blindcoder> well, personally I prefer humans (most notably, women) over machines, but taste may vary 10:05 < owl> ... 10:07 < SMP> 'was sich liebt, das neckt sich' 10:07 < blindcoder> SMP: no, not really... 10:07 < owl> SMP: *kick* 10:07 < blindcoder> SMP: at least not in this case 10:08 < owl> haha. *vbeg* 10:11 * owl off for break 10:13 < blindcoder> eating makes fat :D 10:13 < netrunne1> moin 10:13 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 10:13 < blindcoder> anyone got an idea if rxr will show up here today? 10:21 < daja77> moin Aard ;-) 10:23 < daja77> oh hi all 10:23 -!- ringo78 [~ringo78@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux 10:25 < blindcoder> hi daja77 :) 10:27 < daja77> hi blindy 10:28 < rxr> blindcoder: yes - hi 10:28 < rxr> moin 10:28 < daja77> hi rxr 10:31 < owl> hi rxr 10:31 < blindcoder> rxr: hi there. How's rc1 coming along? 10:31 < owl> hi netrunner 10:32 < rxr> blindcoder: we need one or two days 10:32 < rxr> current HEAD should be ok - and you can either use the result - or do a -newdelete build when we have a -rc1 in-time ... 10:33 < blindcoder> rxr: okay, that's good to hear ^^ 10:34 < SMP> do we have any programs that do audio recording the tree? 10:34 < rxr> I also tagged an inofficial -beta8, just as internal milestone, - becasue I applied some base updates yesterday 10:34 < rxr> but so far the base updates build quite fine 10:34 < blindcoder> rxr: mhm... well, maybe I can also stretch the access time to the machine by another week... erdi will kill me for that, but... oh well :-) 10:35 < rxr> one damn thing is that theoreitical I should go to work today - although doing the last -rc1 fluff would be way more important for me ... 10:36 < owl> hmm... will provide a "minimal_with_x-tree"... if you want it... but first want to build another test... and test it on a running machine for about a week or so... would it be ok, to send the patch, then? 10:36 < blindcoder> hmm... can't you do some rock work from there? 10:37 < blindcoder> GARGL, telephone 10:38 < daja77> hehe blindy gets luser calls ;-) 10:39 < owl> *har* everybody as he deserves it... 10:39 < daja77> hmm maybe I should call him .... 10:39 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB7F6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:41 * blindcoder redirecting hotline to owls mobile phone 10:41 < blindcoder> everyone as she deserves it :D 10:42 < tcr> moin all 10:42 < owl> well. i will do a "call filtering" 10:43 < daja77> okis /me off for learning again :-( 10:44 < blindcoder> owl: good luck. tell me how you did it so I can apply it here,too 10:44 < blindcoder> hi tcr 10:44 < blindcoder> baba daja 10:44 < tcr> daja seems to be very busy these days 10:44 < owl> blindcoder: on mobile phones (at least on my ericsson) it works 10:45 < owl> WAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!! old "romantik-schinken" on tv in school 10:46 < tcr> Please get a bit more quiet, I just woke up 10:46 < owl> "ich musste einfach deine stimme hoeren. gestern nacht war ich schon fast auf dem weg zu dir" - waaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!!! *screaming* *trying to reboot universe* 10:46 < owl> tcr: nah. wake up, old man! :p 10:46 < tcr> Put hearphones in your ear, whimmy 10:47 < blindcoder> owl: okay, so tell me how filter calls without number , internal calls, calls from vienna and calls from teleworkers without filtering anything else. 10:48 < owl> "callers who are not in telephone-book" -- not recieiving 10:49 < owl> tcr: at school? tcr, tcr, tcr - not everybody is having brain-killing-music ... 10:49 < blindcoder> hmm... sounds like an interesting option 10:49 * tcr grins 10:49 < owl> full ack. 10:49 < owl> just don't put them into your telephone book *vbeg* 10:51 < tcr> Hah, owl has half the world in her phone book, I mean she's a woman after all 10:52 < owl> nope. the most people i have inserted into my mobile, are just there because i don't want to remember their mail-adress. i'm not using the "phone-option" much, but the e-mail-client ;p 10:58 < netrunner> hi owl 10:59 < blindcoder> well, that's what a mobile phone is for... sending e-mail... 10:59 * blindcoder --> lunch 11:01 < owl> sure it is that for. i'm hating talking to people 11:01 < owl> (at least the most) 11:04 < christ|an> lalala 11:11 < owl> ? 11:13 -!- JTBurn [jtburn@pD9E7ED31.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:13 < JTBurn> hola 11:13 < JTBurn> have anybody experiences with lampp 11:14 < JTBurn> ? 11:17 < christ|an> !here! 11:21 -!- rtc [~rtc@dialin-145-254-079-124.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:21 < rtc> hi all 11:21 < owl> hi rtc 11:34 -!- rtc [~rtc@dialin-145-254-079-124.arcor-ip.net] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 11:38 * blindcoder back 11:42 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@pD901807E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:43 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.249.210.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11:46 -!- JTBurn [jtburn@pD9E7ED31.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux ("Reboot...") 11:57 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.244.62.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:08 -!- schueler [~blubb0r@pD9018456.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:18 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@pD901807E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:21 -!- rtc [~rtc@dialin-145-254-078-117.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:26 -!- rtc [~rtc@dialin-145-254-078-117.arcor-ip.net] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 12:58 -!- sdfsfdf [~sdf@pD9E4BFD2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:59 -!- gomer [cherryston@geniusatwork.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:59 < gomer> hi 13:02 < tcr> moin 13:02 -!- sdfsfdf [~sdf@pD9E4BFD2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 13:03 < blindcoder> hi 13:03 < owl> hi gomer 13:04 -!- gomer [cherryston@geniusatwork.de] has quit ("changing servers") 13:05 -!- gomer [cherryston@backslashdot.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:13 -!- [anders] [~snafu@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has joined #rocklinux 13:13 < [anders]> moin 13:14 < owl> hi [anders] 13:14 < [anders]> lo owl 13:14 < [anders]> owl: how's you 2day? 13:15 < blindcoder> hi [anders] 13:15 < [anders]> lo blindcoder, how's you? :) 13:15 < rxr> hi [anders] 13:16 < [anders]> lo rxr, long time no type. I see you are busy churning out new release candidates for 2.0 :) 13:16 < owl> [anders]: hm. alive. thx. you? 13:17 < [anders]> owl: got sinus problems, so blistering headache, other than that, my sprained foot and aching shoulder, I am alright thanks.. :) 13:17 < tcr> hi anders 13:17 < blindcoder> [anders]: I'm fine, thanks. Currently working on Project: Gf 13:17 < [anders]> lo tcr, alive and well I see.. :) 13:17 < [anders]> Gf? 13:17 < [anders]> @blindcoder 13:17 -!- DeElsasser [~chatzilla@Mix-Nancy-106-1-65.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 13:17 < tcr> gurlfriend 13:18 < blindcoder> [anders]: you're getting old :) 13:18 < [anders]> hehehe 13:18 * rxr at work now - cu 13:18 < DeElsasser> hi all 13:18 < [anders]> blindcoder: I am old, I am 30 years old.. :) 13:18 * daja77 waves from the off 13:18 < [anders]> tcr: thanks for xlating for me. :) 13:18 < [anders]> lo daja77 13:18 < DeElsasser> anders: i am older 13:18 < [anders]> DeElsasser: how much? :) 13:18 < DeElsasser> moin daja77 13:18 < DeElsasser> ouuuuuuu 13:19 < blindcoder> [anders]: well... I have 8 years until I have the same amount of life-experience that you have now ^^ 13:19 < [anders]> blindcoder: convoluted way of saying you are 22 y.o. then... :) 13:19 < owl> off 13:19 < [anders]> owl: ~~~ 13:19 < daja77> blindcoder: well that kind of projects are fun, good we don't aim it at the same person 13:20 < blindcoder> [anders]: well, I turn 22 in 4 weeks :) 13:20 < DeElsasser> must go: wanted only say hello from my new rock target... 13:20 < blindcoder> daja77: I very much doubt that it's the same person :) 13:20 < daja77> hehe 13:21 < daja77> yepp that's the good news 13:21 * [anders] is building, but not rock... 13:21 < blindcoder> and the bad? 13:21 < DeElsasser> I maned it gRock, have some work to do, but it does it :-)) 13:22 < daja77> ... that I missed her yesterday >_< 13:22 * blindcoder is preparing a ROCK Parallel Build on 17 Machines 13:22 < DeElsasser> cu 13:22 < daja77> cu DeElsasser 13:22 -!- DeElsasser [~chatzilla@Mix-Nancy-106-1-65.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit (Client Quit) 13:22 < blindcoder> daja77: missed? as in "I asked her for a date but forgot her"? 13:23 < daja77> no not that way ... 13:23 < tcr> Muha. 13:23 < tcr> rxr uses javascript history_prev() (or whatever) for back navigation on the regression site 13:24 < daja77> well it is a pity that most girls are no geeks ... 13:24 < [anders]> daja77: amen 13:24 < daja77> ;-) 13:25 < blindcoder> daja77: I don't think so... 13:25 < daja77> she doesn't even have inet at home, so it depends on her goin to some university computer to read my mail ... 13:25 < blindcoder> Personally I wouldn't like a girl who sits in front of a PC all day long 13:26 < blindcoder> It's bad enough that I do that sometimes >_< 13:26 < daja77> blindcoder: yeah i should be more precise, girls who can think geekish ;-) 13:27 < blindcoder> daja77: okay, that's something I fully agree to :) 13:28 < daja77> *sigh* I hope it is worth that challenge ... 13:29 < tcr> Take owl, be happy 13:29 * daja77 shocked 13:29 < [anders]> there are girls out there that are capable of thinking geekish, but they are not easy to find. 13:29 < blindcoder> owl? happy? in the same sentence? 13:30 * [anders] listening to https://205.188.234.68:8002 13:31 < blindcoder> nectarine? 13:31 * tcr . o O ( anders wants to kill our ears ) 13:31 < [anders]> its just EuroDance. :) 13:32 < [anders]> Finest Imported Cheese. :) 13:32 < blindcoder> oh, that's not nectarine then :) 13:34 < [anders]> hmmm.. 2.6.0-test1 kernel available in Debian for installation.. 13:34 < [anders]> that will probably require an update of modutils and a few other things.. :-/ 13:38 < daja77> hm current packages available in debian, but it is not xmas today ... 13:38 < blindcoder> also, it's not April 1st 13:39 * daja77 off again 13:44 * tcr would like to have a "grab" feature in his brother like it's in acrobat reader 13:45 < tcr> s,brother,browser, 13:45 < tcr> Duh 13:48 < fake> damn... why does it have to be so hot?? 13:49 < cytrinox> hi 13:50 < fake> hi 13:50 < blindcoder> hi fake 13:56 -!- tobrit [~tcr@pD9EABF60.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:57 < blindcoder> svn up -r 854 takes ages... 13:57 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB7F6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (ghosted: tobrit!~tcr@pD9EABF60.dip.t-dialin.net))) 13:57 -!- tobrit is now known as tcr 14:09 -!- tfing_ [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has joined #rocklinux 14:12 -!- seiryu [~papapoo@ip68-5-254-8.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:16 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EABF60.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ninety percent of everything is crap.") 14:41 < esden> fake: too many girls around you? 14:41 < esden> hi all sbtw 14:41 < mistik1> hi esden 14:43 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@IP-213157026103.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:46 < blindcoder> esden: ti there 14:46 < blindcoder> s/ti/hi/ 14:48 < esden> blindcoder: hihi 14:48 < blindcoder> esden: just got up? 14:49 < netrunner> re. oh what page are the logs rene mentions in his mail? (those from his reference build) 14:49 < blindcoder> https://schillernet.dyndns.org/rock-linux/regtest/ 14:50 < blindcoder> there's a link on https://www.rocklinux.org/projects/rock20/ 14:50 -!- rtc [~rtc@dialin-145-254-078-246.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:52 < blindcoder> hmm 14:52 < esden> blindcoder: noo ... I am up since many hours 14:53 < blindcoder> esden: hehe, that's rare :) 14:53 < esden> I was in the city and bought something for going out 14:53 < esden> and trained a bit ;-) 14:54 < netrunner> blindcoder: hm ... but the err I was looking for is not there (he mentions xtris) 14:56 < blindcoder> esden: trained? _bought_? you have money o_0 14:57 * mistik1 finally has rock booted 14:58 < mistik1> wonderfull project you got here 14:58 < mistik1> My first target should be done in a couple days too ;) 14:59 * blindcoder going home now 15:00 < mistik1> by blindcoder 15:00 < esden> blindcoder: my mother gave me money to buy myself something to wear ... 15:00 < esden> blindcoder: and no I do not have money 15:00 < esden> by blindcoder 15:01 < mistik1> esden: was it you I was talking to about a uClibc target a couple weeks ago 15:03 < esden> can be ... 15:05 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M293P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 15:08 < mistik1> do you have anything written down that I can read of what has been done and what needs to be done on the uclibc target 15:12 < esden> nope .. sorry ... I have got a visit currently ... and have no time to take care of my rocklunx tasks ... 15:12 -!- rtc [~rtc@dialin-145-254-078-246.arcor-ip.net] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 15:12 < esden> I will have more time tomorrow 15:13 < esden> and hopefully can start to do something for rock since then 15:13 < esden> but for now I can not do anything 15:14 < n00kie> hi esden :) 15:14 < mistik1> esden: fair enough 15:15 < esden> hi n00kie 15:15 < esden> mistik1: sorry ... my friend that I can not help you imediatly 15:16 < mistik1> that is no problem, as it would be days before I can make real use of any info 15:17 < esden> mistik1: ok 15:17 < netrunner> hm ... burning over a 100MBBit works fine with 24x 15:18 < mistik1> sure does 15:24 < esden> ok, I am back on my way to the city ... 15:28 < seiryu> hi 15:29 < seiryu> can somebody tell me a good book to read to learn linux? 15:33 < [anders]> seiryu: I am sure there are some good books.. one moment. 15:33 < seiryu> okk thank you 15:33 < [anders]> seiryu: https://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxnut3/ 15:34 < seiryu> do u think its possible to learn linux from looking at reference books like this? 15:34 < seiryu> i have no background in linux 15:35 < [anders]> seiryu: do you have any background at all with Unix of some form? 15:35 < seiryu> mm no 15:35 < seiryu> i'm not failiar with the differences between unix and linux either so 15:36 < [anders]> seiryu: Linux is a Unix clone, so has a lot in common with other unices. 15:36 < seiryu> does it use similar commands? 15:36 < [anders]> seiryu: yes, you will recognise a lot of unix commands in Linux. 15:36 < [anders]> correction, in various linux distributions. 15:36 < seiryu> i see 15:37 < [anders]> Linux is really only the kernel. 15:37 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M293P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Lost terminal") 15:37 < seiryu> i see 15:37 < seiryu> do u think its better if i get familiar with unix first? 15:38 < [anders]> seiryu: depends what your goal is. 15:38 < seiryu> hmm 15:38 < [anders]> seiryu: if you want to learn enough to keep a secure server/desktop at home, you can probably go straight for a linux of *BSD distribution. 15:39 < seiryu> oo hmm 15:39 < [anders]> if your aim is to become a system admin for a large company, you will probably have to learn some Solaris, AIX or HP-UX at some point. 15:39 < seiryu> oook 15:39 < seiryu> umm 15:39 < seiryu> i jsut want to be able to use program 15:39 < seiryu> i mean 15:40 < seiryu> use for programming 15:40 < [anders]> then learning linux or BSD is sufficent. 15:41 < seiryu> wat exactly is BSD? 15:41 < seiryu> just a distrobution of linux? 15:41 < [anders]> the development environment in linux distributions is very good. as you have access to sources of almost everything, you can easily see how things are done, and get inspiration and tips for your own code 15:41 < seiryu> oo i see 15:42 < seiryu> i just installed red hat because i got a hold of it really fast 15:42 < [anders]> seiryu: No, BSD is a diffrent branch of Unix. 15:42 < seiryu> but i don't really know where to start 15:42 < seiryu> oo unix 15:42 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@IP-213157026103.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has quit (":x") 15:42 < [anders]> There is FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD. They are the three major BSD distributions. 15:42 < seiryu> i see 15:43 < seiryu> what do you use? 15:43 < [anders]> they have slightly diffrent goals, OpenBSD aims to be as secure as possible. 15:43 < seiryu> oo 15:43 < seiryu> hmm well i'm not running a network on it or anything so 15:43 < [anders]> seiryu: I use SuSE Linux and Debian Linux at the moment, but have used ROCK Linux a lot in the past 15:43 < seiryu> i don't think i have to worry too much about that 15:43 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M293P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 15:43 < seiryu> o no 15:43 < seiryu> o i see 15:44 < seiryu> i never really heard of rock linux until today 15:44 -!- rtc [~rtc@ACB55391.ipt.aol.com] has joined #rocklinux 15:44 < [anders]> seiryu: if you are aiming to write code, familiarise yourself with the shell and some editor (emacs/vi/nedit/pico/other choice) and then you are ready to rock. :) 15:44 < seiryu> how did u come to learn linux? 15:44 < seiryu> okk thanks 15:45 < rtc> yeah, i made it too - i'm running rock! thx geeks, this system is funky ;) 15:45 < [anders]> seiryu: interest. I picked up RedHat 4.1 of a coverdisk back in 1997, and have been using Linux since. 15:45 < seiryu> oo wow 15:45 < seiryu> i'm really new to this stuff 15:45 < rtc> configuring pppd was not easy with my winmodem, but it works... 15:46 < seiryu> what is shell by the way? 15:46 < rtc> seiryu: nube? 15:46 < [anders]> seiryu: the command line interface. you have several to chose from depending on your preference. csh, bsh, bash, tcsh, ksh or zsh are the most common. 15:46 < seiryu> yupp 15:47 < rtc> why here in the developer channel of rock? 15:47 < seiryu> o 15:47 < seiryu> sorry 15:47 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M293P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:47 < seiryu> #linuxhelp got annoyed at me yesterday 15:47 < seiryu> because i knew nothing about linux 15:47 < rtc> no problem, all are here to help you a little ;) 15:47 < seiryu> thought this place might be able to help 15:48 < seiryu> cool thanks a lot for the help though 15:48 < rtc> a "clean" linux channel would be better for you, wouldn't it? 15:48 < seiryu> i really appreciate it alot 15:48 < seiryu> what do you mean by "clean"? 15:48 < rtc> perhaps ;) 15:48 < [anders]> seiryu: a lot of your questions can be answered at https://www.linuxfaq.com/LDP/ 15:48 < seiryu> okk thanks 15:49 < [anders]> seiryu: by clean, he probably mean 'generic'. :) 15:49 < seiryu> oo i see 15:49 < seiryu> they're kinda mean too 15:49 < [anders]> ROCK Linux is quite specialised. 15:49 < rtc> it is 15:49 < seiryu> are you one of the developers? 15:50 < [anders]> not many distributions that encourage people to compile their entire distribution from source. ;-) 15:50 < [anders]> seiryu: I wish. 15:50 < seiryu> o 15:50 < [anders]> I did a little work back on the 1.5.x tree, but didn't get very far. 15:50 < seiryu> ii see 15:50 < seiryu> are you a programmer? 15:51 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M317P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 15:51 < [anders]> seiryu: no, more of a system admin. 15:51 < seiryu> oo cool 15:52 < [anders]> I write a little perl and shell from time to time for various things to automate tasks here at IBM. 15:53 < seiryu> oo wow 15:53 < seiryu> ur up awfully early 15:53 < [anders]> early? 15:53 < seiryu> you're at work right now? 15:53 < [anders]> it is nearly 15:00 here. :) 15:54 < [anders]> 14:53 to be exact 15:54 < seiryu> o' 15:54 < n00kie> [anders]: Where are you from? 15:54 < seiryu> wow i guess ur not on the west coast 15:54 < seiryu> california 15:54 < rtc> 15:53 in here ;) 15:54 < seiryu> where are you from? 15:54 < n00kie> err, 6:54am? :) 15:54 < n00kie> Tyrol/Austria 15:54 < seiryu> you are all from Austria? 15:55 < rtc> 6:54 in Austria? i don't believe @ n00kie ;) 15:55 < n00kie> Why all? 15:55 < n00kie> austria != australia :) 15:55 < seiryu> its 6:54 in california 15:55 < [anders]> n00kie: from sweden originally. 15:55 < [anders]> n00kie: but I am in UK at the moment 15:55 < n00kie> Ah, alright 15:56 < seiryu> oo that explains it 15:56 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@p3EE1E26C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:57 < n00kie> Hey jsaw_ :) 15:57 < rtc> uff. 32°C - it's getting hot in here ;) 15:57 < n00kie> 33 Degrees Celsius in here 15:57 < n00kie> Damn hot :( 15:57 < rtc> ;) 15:58 < seiryu> well then I haven't slept yet so I guess i'll go sleep now 15:58 < seiryu> thanks a lot for the help anders and rtc 15:58 < seiryu> i really appreciate it 15:58 < seiryu> talk to you laters 15:58 < seiryu> bye 15:58 < n00kie> sleep well 15:58 < rtc> didn't help lot i think, but ok ;) 15:58 < rtc> bye there 15:59 < [anders]> seiryu: not a problem. take care 15:59 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAF95.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:59 < n00kie> Hi tcr 15:59 < tcr> moin n00kie 16:01 -!- JTBurn [jtburn@pD9E7ED31.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:01 < JTBurn> re 16:01 < JTBurn> :) 16:02 < JTBurn> did anybody know a programm to extract .bin - files ? 16:02 -!- rtc [~rtc@ACB55391.ipt.aol.com] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:04 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p3EE1E268.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16:04 < tcr> JTBurn: Hmm, I know .bin files only from BIOS upgrades 16:04 < tcr> JTBurn: But the bios producer offers always a bios flasher which can read that file 16:05 < n00kie> tcr: *.bin files are also used for some cd images 16:05 < JTBurn> na thats not a BIOS file, that is an image like .iso or .img 16:05 < n00kie> when you need for example a *.cue file too 16:05 < tcr> Ah 16:05 < JTBurn> n00kie: do you know an answer ? 16:06 < tcr> JTBurn: g00gl3 then :P 16:06 < n00kie> www.g00gl3.de 16:06 < n00kie> :D 16:06 < n00kie> nah 16:06 < JTBurn> g00gl3 didnt tell me anything 16:06 < n00kie> maybe you should try to find something at freshmeat 16:06 < JTBurn> no there is nothing too 16:07 < n00kie> hmm 16:08 < knoti> try to mount it with loopback 16:08 < n00kie> jt 16:08 < n00kie> https://www.google.de/search?q=extract+*.bin+files+linux&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=de&btnG=Google+Suche&meta= 16:08 < n00kie> about 92.000 websites 16:09 < n00kie> I guess on one website, you find a program or correct answer :) 16:09 < tcr> Get "bchunk" too. It converts .cue and .bin's 16:09 < tcr> into .iso images 16:09 < JTBurn> no loopback does not work 16:10 < tcr> JTBurn: https://hes.iki.fi/bchunk/ 16:10 < n00kie> well, it would be the easist (?) way to burn the file... 16:11 < JTBurn> mh 16:11 < JTBurn> not the easiest but the onest 16:11 < tcr> n00kie: Only if you have a cd-w and a free cd 16:12 < tcr> JTBurn: I pointed you to a way, didn't I? 16:12 < tcr> bchunk converts your .bin file into an .iso file which you can loopmount.. 16:12 < JTBurn> yes tcr 16:12 < JTBurn> thx 16:12 < JTBurn> :) 16:13 < tcr> No problem 16:14 -!- schueler [~blubb0r@pD9018456.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:16 -!- Nebukadneza [~arklinux@dsl-213-023-059-071.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:16 < Nebukadneza> hi 16:19 < fake> esden: no? 16:19 < [anders]> ta ta, /me is off.. 16:19 -!- [anders] [~snafu@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has left #rocklinux ("Client exiting") 16:21 < rolla> yawn 16:29 < owl> rehi 16:29 < n00kie> wv iwk ;( 16:30 -!- rtc [~rtc@ACB7B6B1.ipt.aol.com] has joined #rocklinux 16:31 < n00kie> argh 16:31 < n00kie> wb owl :) 16:31 < owl> hi n00kie 16:31 < n00kie> sorry, typo :) 16:33 < n00kie> hmm tcr 16:34 < n00kie> if the *.bin from jtburn is a movie 16:34 < n00kie> He can play it in mplayer, if I'm right? 16:35 < tcr> No idea 16:35 < n00kie> But I don't know it correctly... 16:35 < owl> knowing what? 16:36 < n00kie> if someone can plays a (s)vcd *.bin directly in mplayer 16:36 -!- tfing [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has quit (Killed (NickServ (ghosted: tfing_!tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se))) 16:36 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 16:36 < owl> hm... no idea. sorry 16:36 < tfing> n00kie: yes, it works 16:37 < fake> j0, should work 16:37 < owl> moin fake 16:37 < n00kie> alright, thanks :) 16:38 -!- rtc [~rtc@ACB7B6B1.ipt.aol.com] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 16:45 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@x10.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:56 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@x10.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17:02 -!- Nebukadneza is now known as Nebu^gehtgleich^ 17:02 -!- Nebu^gehtgleich^ is now known as Nebu^tschau 17:02 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@x17.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:02 < owl> wtf is happening in here? O_o 17:03 -!- Nebu^tschau [~arklinux@dsl-213-023-059-071.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("KVIrc 3.0.0-beta3 "CVS" - Ark Linux (https://www.arklinux.org/)") 17:06 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@p50801454.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:07 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F869.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (ghosted: blindcod1r!blindcoder@p50801454.dip.t-dialin.net))) 17:07 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 17:13 < n00kie> lol owl 17:13 < n00kie> well 17:13 < n00kie> <- n8 :) 17:13 * blindcoder back 17:14 < n00kie> wb blindy && bye blindy 17:15 < blindcoder> baba 17:16 < owl> gn8 n00kie *looking onto the watch* isn't it a bit early for sleeping? O_o 17:18 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-071.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:20 < blindcoder> ah well 17:20 < blindcoder> maybe today _is_ a good day to die. (Worf, Son of Mogh) 17:20 < owl> aha? 17:23 < blindcoder> yeah 17:24 < tcr> it's still a bit of time until TNG comes 17:24 < fake> 17:45 17:24 < fake> K1 17:24 * fake is informed 17:24 < rolla> ucking AOL 17:25 < fake> although i don't have a tv ;) 17:25 < blindcoder> It's not from TNG 17:25 -!- Nebukadneza is now known as Nebu^Armitage 17:26 * owl kicks Nebu^Armitage 17:27 < Nebu^Armitage> wieso? 17:27 < Nebu^Armitage> why? 17:27 < tcr> blindcoder: He definitively said it in First Contact 17:27 < blindcoder> tcr: yes, but that was already way into DS9 17:27 < tcr> Nebu^Armitage: too much, _unnecesary_, nickchanges 17:28 < tcr> too many even 17:28 < Nebu^Armitage> löl 17:28 < Nebu^Armitage> okay 17:28 -!- Nebu^Armitage is now known as Nebukadneza 17:28 < Nebukadneza> sorry 17:28 < tcr> Thank you :) 17:28 < JTBurn> hi rolla :) 17:28 < blindcoder> Armitage? as in Armitage III? 17:28 < JTBurn> do you knew me 17:28 < JTBurn> ? 17:29 < tcr> blindcoder: Don't like ds9 that much, but watch it about every satur- and sunday 17:30 < blindcoder> tcr: I haven't seen it till the end... the last ep I saw was the first one with Ezri 17:33 < tcr> Heh, I just jumped into any episode 17:37 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAF95.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("brb") 17:38 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-071.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 17:38 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@x17.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit (":x") 17:45 * blindcoder now building minimal-target from svn HEAD 17:45 < blindcoder> and goes watching anime to become even more depressed 17:45 < blindcoder> bye 17:49 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-071.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:05 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-071.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 18:06 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-071.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:21 * -> esden drinking mate tea ;-) 18:27 < blindcoder> esden: is it alcoholic? 18:29 < esden> noo ... it is containing caffeine 18:29 < blindcoder> damn 18:29 < blindcoder> well, have to finally kill the Sake bottle then 18:31 < blindcoder> hmm 18:32 < blindcoder> one of these days, I'm sure esden will stay here longer than 5 seconds 18:32 * blindcoder off to anime again 18:37 < rolla> re 18:38 -!- rtc [~rtc@ACB42748.ipt.aol.com] has joined #rocklinux 18:41 < esden> blindcoder: I am here ... from time to time ... 18:45 < JTBurn> wb rolla 18:51 < rolla> ,:) 18:51 -!- rtc [~rtc@ACB42748.ipt.aol.com] has quit ("Client Exiting") 19:00 -!- JTBurn [jtburn@pD9E7ED31.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Reboot...") 19:02 < Nebukadneza> how can you load ed2k:// links in mldonkey(webinterface9 19:02 < tfing> execute the command dllink ed2k://... 19:02 < Nebukadneza> sure? 19:02 < tfing> sure :) 19:03 * blindcoder points to #mldonkey on this network 19:04 < Nebukadneza> tfing: unknown command 19:04 < tfing> dllink ? 19:04 < tfing> dllink <ed2klink> :download ed2k:// link 19:05 -!- gomer [cherryston@backslashdot.de] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:06 < Nebukadneza> jep 19:06 < Nebukadneza> it dont work 19:06 < Nebukadneza> wich version? 19:06 < tfing> 2.5-3 19:06 < Nebukadneza> hm 19:06 < tfing> you can type help 19:06 < Nebukadneza> *gets a new one* 19:07 < tfing> but the dllink command was there from the beginning 19:07 < Nebukadneza> hm 19:07 < Nebukadneza> i'll get a new 19:07 < tfing> sure you made no typo ? 19:07 < Nebukadneza> do you know what a filetype .ogm is (must be anything like video)? 19:07 < Nebukadneza> typo? 19:07 < blindcoder> OGG Media 19:08 < blindcoder> mplayer can play it without problems 19:08 < Nebukadneza> ah 19:08 < Nebukadneza> okay 19:08 < Nebukadneza> thx 19:08 < blindcoder> some people call it OGG Movie, but that is not really correct 19:08 < Nebukadneza> but its video and audio? 19:09 < blindcoder> video (usually one stream) and audio/text (zero to multiple streams) 19:09 < Nebukadneza> okay 19:09 < Nebukadneza> thx! 19:09 < Nebukadneza> does anyone here like anime? 19:10 * blindcoder puts hand in the air 19:10 < blindcoder> erm 19:10 * tfing puts both 19:10 < blindcoder> in english that is raises hand i think 19:10 * Mike1 too 19:10 < Nebukadneza> hm? 19:10 < Nebukadneza> why? 19:10 < blindcoder> sorry, my english gets worse the older the day is... 19:12 < blindcoder> Nebukadneza: because it's way better than the shit that usually comes on TV here in .de 19:12 < blindcoder> that's probably also why I don't own a TV anymore 19:12 < Nebukadneza> anime on .de tv are evil! 19:12 < mnemoc> re 19:12 < Nebukadneza> there really shi7! 19:13 < blindcoder> Nebukadneza: well, VOX sometimes has some good things like Silent Moebius subtitled, but that was long ago 19:13 < blindcoder> even Spirited Away in german Cinemas was translated wrong... 19:13 < Nebukadneza> jep! 19:13 < Nebukadneza> Silent Möbius was not that good! 19:14 < Nebukadneza> but ... NGE is really good ... grave of the fireflies is good 19:14 < Nebukadneza> lain is good 19:14 < blindcoder> haven't seen GoFF yet... but NGE and Lain were some of the first Anime I saw, followed by LH 19:14 < Nebukadneza> lh ruleZ! 19:15 < Nebukadneza> its the funnyest anime i know 19:15 < Nebukadneza> its so kewl! 19:15 < blindcoder> well, it's really good for an Ecchi series 19:15 < Nebukadneza> löl 19:15 < Nebukadneza> i just load the armitage ova ... im a armitage fan :)( 19:15 < blindcoder> Armitage III? 19:16 < Nebukadneza> armitage III ova's 19:16 < blindcoder> I like that one, although I haven't seen te OVA yet... I have it, but haven't watched it 19:16 < Nebukadneza> its too bad, that dual matrix got a "bug" at me 19:16 < Nebukadneza> do you got the ova? 19:16 < Nebukadneza> *argh* 19:16 < blindcoder> hm... dual matrix... have that lying aound next to Poly Matrix... 19:16 < blindcoder> haven't seen DM yet, too. 19:17 < Nebukadneza> hmm 19:17 < blindcoder> I have too much Anime that I didn't watch yet >_< 19:17 < Nebukadneza> me too 19:18 < blindcoder> have you seen Spiral? 19:18 < blindcoder> Suizu no Kizuna? 19:18 < Nebukadneza> Spiral? 19:18 < Nebukadneza> (i search tokyo underground ..) 19:18 < blindcoder> TU? mom... 19:18 < blindcoder> haven't got it at home right now... 19:18 < Nebukadneza> no 19:19 < blindcoder> (nothing like a searchable Anime database and who has which CD-Set right now ^^) 19:19 < Nebukadneza> do you know "Seikai no Senki" ?? 19:19 < blindcoder> yes 19:19 < blindcoder> Crest of the Stars, Seikai no Danshou Tanschou, Seikai no Senki I and II 19:20 < Nebukadneza> is it good? 19:20 < blindcoder> you may keep the typos 19:20 < blindcoder> I think it's quite good although the end of the series feels... wrong. 19:21 < Nebukadneza> hm? 19:21 < Nebukadneza> do you know scyced? 19:21 -!- rtc [~rtc@ACB42748.ipt.aol.com] has joined #rocklinux 19:22 < blindcoder> Scryed? 19:22 < Nebukadneza> hmm 19:23 < Nebukadneza> Scryed ... sorrs 19:23 < Nebukadneza> sorry 19:25 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@pD9018456.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:26 < blindcoder> I like Scryed 19:26 < blindcoder> although here, too, the end is kinda wrong and leaves space for a second Season 19:26 < Nebukadneza> :) 19:27 < Nebukadneza> i like anime like nge and lain ... you think about the meaning and the sence of life ... etc. 19:27 < Nebukadneza> blindcoder: are you german? 19:27 < blindcoder> Nebukadneza: yes. 19:28 < Nebukadneza> sek ... i have to upload sth. *G*G*G* 19:28 < Nebukadneza> oh no! 19:28 < Nebukadneza> ive deleted it 19:28 < blindcoder> hmm... that's bad 19:28 < blindcoder> what was it? 19:29 < Nebukadneza> knapp 6 seiten über nge "philosophiert" und assoziiert 19:29 < blindcoder> oh... nice... 19:30 < blindcoder> hm... 19:30 < Nebukadneza> :) 19:30 < Nebukadneza> it was hard work .. 19:30 < blindcoder> I'll continue watching Tenchi Universe 19:30 < Nebukadneza> tenchi hmm *Searches* 19:33 -!- rtc [~rtc@ACB42748.ipt.aol.com] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 19:46 < Nebukadneza> hm 19:46 < Nebukadneza> much stuff ... 19:50 < Nebukadneza> i need a spamfilter for evolution ... can anyone help me? 19:56 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-071.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 19:56 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@pD9018456.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("tschaule") 20:10 < rxr> re 20:13 < mnemoc> wb rxr 20:17 -!- reenoo_ [~r@pD9E1790D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:17 < reenoo_> hi 20:17 < owl> rehi 20:19 < daja77> re 20:27 < daja77> *yawn* 20:28 < rxr> hi mnemoc owl daja77 and all 20:28 < owl> hi rxr 20:29 < daja77> mnemoc owl daja77 are a subset of all *ggg* 20:29 < mnemoc> :) 20:29 * daja77 notes talking nonsense 20:30 < mnemoc> redefine all as 'all the others' 20:30 < mnemoc> recursion :| 20:30 < daja77> *ggg* 20:30 < rxr> anyway hi all 20:31 < daja77> sure, just thinking stupid stuff ... 20:33 < daja77> I guess I'll need a whole day to read ml, when exams are over 20:34 < daja77> do I have missed any news? 20:39 < rolla> re daja77 20:40 < daja77> hi rolla 20:41 -!- netrunne1 [~netrunner@p50802E30.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:41 * daja77 wondering where Mike is 20:48 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802154.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21:18 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-071.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:30 < fake> stephan koerner seems to be a representative of the german software industry? 21:30 < fake> https://swpat.ffii.org/briefe/bund028/index.de.html 21:30 < fake> the 16th on the list of signing firms 21:31 < fake> (and i bet he doesn't even know about this, muha) 21:31 < mnemoc> who is him? :( 21:31 < fake> ripclaw 21:31 < daja77> pilum tech is ripclaw's firm ... 21:32 < mnemoc> cool :) 21:32 < daja77> + ripclaw said on ml that he even phoned sco ... 21:34 < fake> yeah, to quit his licence ;) 21:34 < daja77> hehe 21:37 < owl> *g* 21:39 < fake> i'll take a nap, i'm so tired... damn bacteria. 21:40 < daja77> cu fake 21:40 < fake> bye, cu later maybe 21:40 < daja77> I wonm't be here for long 21:40 < daja77> won't even 21:41 < owl> gn8 fake , get on well soon. bye 21:45 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@p50817573.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:47 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@p50817573.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 21:47 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@p50817573.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:48 < Nebukadneza> rehi 21:48 < Nebukadneza> can anyone help me with spamassassin? what have i to configure? 21:52 < rxr> Nebukadneza: there is the docu included in the spamassassin package or the homepage 21:52 < rxr> it is a good start 21:53 < daja77> :) 21:56 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@p50817573.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (":x") 21:57 < Nebukadneza> hm 21:57 < Nebukadneza> oki 21:57 < cytrinox> rtfm... =) 21:58 < daja77> n8 you all 21:58 < owl> gn8 daja77 21:59 < cytrinox> gn8 daja77 22:06 < SMP> rxr: has any work on the network init occurred yet? I'm currently designing something (writing ideas down, pseudocode) 22:09 -!- knoti [~knoti@p508B2031.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:09 < rxr> SMP: nope not yet done - since too busy 22:09 < rxr> I would start with real code tonight ... 22:09 < rxr> but if you would take it over ... 22:09 < rxr> mnemoc: are you here? 22:09 < mnemoc> yep 22:10 < SMP> rxr: maybe we can discuss my ideas (and yours) on the phone later 22:10 < rxr> your final perl5 patch was "07/06" ? 22:10 -!- knoti [~knoti@p508B1B61.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:10 < rxr> SMP: not on IRC ? 22:11 < SMP> I think I'd prefer phone with some additional written channel;) 22:12 < mnemoc> rxr: i guess so... apply it and i Diff them here 22:12 < mnemoc> :) 22:12 < mnemoc> but that was stable 22:12 < rxr> mnemoc: or you send a fresh patch just now ? 22:12 < mnemoc> ok... w8 22:14 < rxr> SMP: ok - so if you prefer phone ... 22:16 < mnemoc> rxr: rene@rock or ml? 22:16 < rxr> rene is ok 22:16 < rxr> I'll just apply it anyway ... 22:17 < owl> Error logs from default-2.0.0-rc1-x86-minimal_XFree: 22:17 < owl> 221 builds total, 90 completed fine, 0 with errors. 22:17 < rxr> owl: congrats 22:17 < rxr> owl: you moved back to rock - or are you still hacking your own dist ? 22:18 < owl> rxr: nope... not much.. 22:19 < owl> and if this minimal_XFree-target will work, i'm happy with rock, i guess... 22:19 < rxr> owl: nice to see ;-) Welcome back! 22:19 < owl> thx ;) 22:20 < mnemoc> owl is back from the dark side :) 22:20 < mnemoc> wb happyowl 22:20 < rxr> happyowl is a cool nick 22:20 < rxr> /alias owl happyowl 22:20 < owl> will hit you with some patches in the next days... (after some days of testing minimal_XFree-target "in the wild") 22:21 < owl> thx, mnemoc 22:21 < owl> *g* 22:24 < owl> hmm... i'm loving "wizo" (band) 22:33 < rxr> SMP: when you wanna phone later - just ask for the number ... 22:33 -!- Nebukadneza is now known as Nebu^havetogo 22:33 < SMP> rxr: of course 22:34 < Nebu^havetogo> cya 22:34 -!- Nebu^havetogo [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-071.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 22:36 < rxr> mnemoc: applied. 22:37 < jsaw_> re 22:37 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw 22:37 < jsaw> owl: /me wants minimal_XFree 22:37 < owl> jsaw: why? 22:38 < owl> btw, will first continue with the build and test it some days, then commit the patch 22:38 < mnemoc> rxr: db3_*.patch should got removed, not modified :| 22:38 < jsaw> owl: the next computer that I want to transfer to rock is my laptop. 200MHz, 64Mb. 22:39 < owl> hehehe ;) k. is an argument ;p 22:39 < jsaw> btw targets, why is the server target kernel UP? 22:43 -!- rtc [~rtc@dialin-145-254-077-131.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:46 < owl> jsaw: if you want the target as untested *.tar.bz2, i can dcc it to you... 22:48 < jsaw> owl: a bit later when I'm at work, dcc seems not to work behind nat, yes (or simply mail me, extract it from the ML) 22:48 < owl> k. e-mail-adress? 22:50 < jsaw> owl: search for "sawinski" in the ML 22:50 < owl> nah... too lazy 22:51 < jsaw> k: george at mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de 22:52 < owl> oki. thx. 22:53 < owl> you got mail... 22:53 < owl> and for /me it's time to sleep. 22:53 < owl> gn8 22:53 < jsaw> i got mail. thx. 22:54 < owl> yrw. 22:54 < jsaw> sleep well (and nice to "see" u in a better mood) 22:54 < owl> hehe (is this so "offensichtlich"?) 22:54 < owl> sleep well, too. 22:55 < jsaw> well, let's see what comes after /quit 22:56 < owl> no quit :p 22:56 < owl> gn8 23:04 -!- localhost [~demian@pD95231B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:04 < localhost> hi 23:04 -!- localhost is now known as Kum 23:05 -!- Kum is now known as Demian 23:07 < Mike1> Demian is known as D3bian 23:07 < rxr> mnemoc: is there still s.th. missing form your patches 23:07 < rxr> hi mnemoc 23:07 < rxr> Mike1 even 23:07 < Mike1> rxr: hi 23:07 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-159-249.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:07 < Mike1> rxr: query 23:07 < Demian> seems there are more rock developers in gallery :) 23:11 < rolla> re Mike1 23:17 < christ|an> Mike1: 23:22 -!- rtc [~rtc@dialin-145-254-077-131.arcor-ip.net] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 23:22 < mnemoc> rxr: the patch was complete... but db3_use.patch got emptied instead of removed 23:23 < jsaw> hi Mike1 23:23 < mnemoc> s/Demian/d3mian/ ? 23:23 < rxr> mnemoc: fixed 23:23 < mnemoc> thanks ;) 23:25 < reenoo_> "dereferencing pointer to incomplete type" 23:25 < reenoo_> anybody dare to "translate" that? 23:26 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@p50839BE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 23:26 < rxr> the type of the pointer was not declared yet 23:27 < Demian> usign a struct.. but not defined i guess 23:27 -!- Demian [~demian@pD95231B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Leaving") 23:28 < reenoo_> ok thx 23:31 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.244.62.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ("Client exiting") 23:35 -!- reenoo_ [~r@pD9E1790D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("sleep") 23:36 < rxr> "SCO systems and 'Target Deprecation'" in gcc 23:37 < rxr> this shit shows up everywhere ... 23:37 < mnemoc> define: everywhere 23:39 < rxr> now even on the gcc-devel list ... 23:41 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 23:50 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M319P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 23:53 < mistik1> evening guys 23:55 < mistik1> It seems my first build attempt has failed 23:59 < mistik1> this is odd 23:59 < mistik1> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 305: /usr/bin/time: No such file or directory --- Log closed Wed Jul 23 00:00:04 2003