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--- Log opened Sun Jul 27 00:00:30 2003 --- Day changed Sun Jul 27 2003 00:00 < daja77> ooops compile error in lmsensors package 00:01 < daja77> rxr: need error message? 00:01 < A-Tui> hi 00:01 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@IP-213157026123.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:01 < daja77> hi A-Tui 00:01 < A-Tui> hola daja77 00:02 < dreamind> Hi 00:02 < daja77> hi dreamind 00:02 < rxr> daja77: nope 00:02 < daja77> ok :) 00:02 -!- Meshugga [~philip@chello213047059067.25.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #rocklinux 00:03 < Meshugga> namd :) 00:03 < daja77> hi philip 00:03 < dreamind> Hi daja77 00:03 < Meshugga> clifford da? 00:03 < daja77> nope 00:03 < Meshugga> daja77: kenn ich dich? :) 00:03 < daja77> sure you do 00:03 < Meshugga> oh, wait, english chan? 00:03 < Meshugga> sorry... 00:03 < daja77> yes 00:04 < Meshugga> daja77: where do i know you from? 00:04 < daja77> linuxtag? 00:04 < Meshugga> i havent been at linuxtag, sorry 00:04 < daja77> ok sorry than i confused with another philip 00:04 < Meshugga> perhaps with philipp reisner 00:04 < daja77> yepp 00:05 < Meshugga> !seen clifford 00:05 -!- Meshugga is now known as meshugga 00:05 < daja77> we have no bot here 00:06 < meshugga> when is clifford usually online? 00:06 < daja77> a few hours in 4-6 weeks 00:06 < daja77> every 4-6 weeks 00:06 < daja77> sorry 00:07 < meshugga> gah ... i am meeting him every two weeks irl, so irc apparently is rather senseless ... ;) 00:08 < daja77> he is only rarely here, yes 00:09 < daja77> but he is responding to mails ;-) 00:09 < meshugga> actually, i wanted to ask him about a tool he told me about lately 00:10 < meshugga> some sort of "wget scripting engine" 00:10 < daja77> scripts/Download? ;-) 00:11 < daja77> anyway, I'll be off now 00:11 < daja77> gn8 you all 00:11 < meshugga> nite 00:11 < Aard> n8 daja77 00:28 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@IP-213157026123.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has quit (":x") 00:36 < meshugga> bye 00:36 -!- meshugga [~philip@chello213047059067.25.11.vie.surfer.at] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 00:50 < rxr> blindcoder: awake ? 00:58 < rxr> cu - n8 01:25 -!- msp[]- is now known as msp[sleep] 01:25 -!- msp[sleep] [msp@p5086FA07.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ping timeout") 01:30 -!- kasc [~kasc@p50909D7B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01:33 < gomer> re 01:40 -!- comrad [~comrad@dsl-213-023-045-048.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:42 -!- kasc [~kasc@p50909593.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:23 < gomer> gute nacht 02:41 -!- comrad [~comrad@dsl-213-023-045-048.arcor-ip.net] has left #rocklinux ("Client exiting") 03:49 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 04:29 -!- fake [~fake@pD9E4DED5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:50 -!- fake [~fake@pD9EB78F5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:52 -!- niklaus [~levin@61.1.176.38] has joined #rocklinux 09:02 -!- niklaus [~levin@61.1.176.38] has left #rocklinux ("Client exiting") 09:20 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9E39AF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:26 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@IP-213157026037.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:08 < netrunne1> moin 10:08 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 10:10 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@IP-213157026037.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has quit (":x") 10:15 < daja77> moin netrunner 10:16 * daja77 now off for fun 10:32 * netrunner off for biking (harley) 11:26 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@gtso-d9b8c450.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:27 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@gtso-d9b8c450.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit (Client Quit) 12:16 < netrunner> hm ... 1-dietlibc fails 12:18 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p50893604.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:19 < ripclaw> helo 12:19 < netrunner> hi ripclaw 12:19 * ripclaw doing some work, but occasionally looking into channel 12:19 < ripclaw> hi netrunner 12:19 < ripclaw> PING_ALIVE 12:20 < SMP> hi ripclaw .. 12:21 < ripclaw> hi SMP ! 12:22 < ripclaw> SMP - im setting up boxes in my basement, one is definitely and finally going to come to berlin CCC and if you are there, it`ll stay. 12:22 < ripclaw> but i`ll have to call you up on that a few days before, since i may not be able to finish it til then. 12:22 < SMP> woo ;) 12:24 < ripclaw> btw - do you still have any Athlon SLOT A cooler left ? mine just fragged the hell out of itself during the heat, now three boxes are out of order (one disk damage, one board damage during lxtag, and that one now.) 12:24 < ripclaw> oooh. cvs sync is slow on openbsd today... 12:25 < SMP> sorry, no Athlons here 12:26 < netrunner> 2 athlons here building rock: CPU1 Temp: +54.5°C CPU2 Temp: +59.5°C 12:26 < netrunner> quite hot here :/ 12:26 < ripclaw> hmpf. dont want to abuse a sparc for that. cant install 2.0 on it, slowaris rocks (not) for building, and openbsd supports only one cpu. hmpf. 12:27 < ripclaw> netrunner: 2 sparc 450 building in the basement :-P this is athlon too. but none SMP athlon, i only have P2/Sparc/G4 as SMP here. 12:28 * netrunner wonders if there is still warranty on his hdd from 02/2001 12:37 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4FFEA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:41 -!- ripclaw_ [~ripclaw@p50893604.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:56 < gomer> re 12:58 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p50893604.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:05 -!- ripclaw_ [~ripclaw@p50893604.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13:17 -!- msp[] [msp@p5086FA07.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:46 < esden> hi all 13:47 < Aard> hi esden 13:49 < esden> hi Aard 14:02 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 14:03 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4FE35.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:17 < blindcoder> hmm 14:19 < esden> hi blindcoder 14:19 < blindcoder> hi esdi 14:20 < blindcoder> esden: bootdisk target ailed completely 14:20 < blindcoder> esden: the dietlib pkg_gawk.patch doesn't apply to the new version anymore 14:20 < blindcoder> and so there was no awk available... 14:22 < blindcoder> maybe other dietlibc panches don't apply anymore, too since some core packages (gawk, sed, ...) wre updated... 14:24 < Aard> gawk linked static or dynamic? dynamic linking works here without patch 14:25 < blindcoder> static, I believe... 14:25 < blindcoder> In file included from io.c:44: 14:25 < blindcoder> /usr/src/rock-node/build/bootdisk-2.0.0-rc1-x86-bootdisk-expert/root/usr/include/stropts.h:27: conflicting types for `gid_t' 14:25 < blindcoder> /usr/src/rock-node/build/bootdisk-2.0.0-rc1-x86-bootdisk-expert/root/usr/dietlibc/include/sys/types.h:51: previous declaration of `gid_t' 14:25 < blindcoder> /usr/src/rock-node/build/bootdisk-2.0.0-rc1-x86-bootdisk-expert/root/usr/include/stropts.h:32: conflicting types for `uid_t' 14:25 < esden> blindcoder: I will have to take a look at that stuff 14:25 < blindcoder> /usr/src/rock-node/build/bootdisk-2.0.0-rc1-x86-bootdisk-expert/root/usr/dietlibc/include/sys/types.h:50: previous declaration of `uid_t' 14:25 < blindcoder> that's the error I have. 14:25 < blindcoder> gawk 3.1.3 14:25 < esden> Aard: static 14:26 < blindcoder> esden: I think I can create a new patch that aapplies... 14:26 < esden> Aard: many things work at your place without problem 14:26 < esden> s 14:26 < esden> because you tweaked your system so that it uses dietlibc as if it was glibc ... 14:26 < Aard> esden: ? 14:26 < esden> that is a big difference 14:27 < Aard> that's my aim -- a completly glibc free system 14:27 < esden> I can run glibc and dietlibc in parallel in my system ... you not 14:27 < esden> that is called flexibility ;) 14:28 < blindcoder> maybe rene had no time to also check if bootdisk target still builds after updating those packages 14:28 < esden> blindcoder: seems so ... 14:28 < esden> but I thought someone sent an updated gawk patch ... 14:28 < Aard> esden: I don't want glibc anymore ;) 14:29 < esden> Aard: me nither ... but I do not close the door ... so that if someone wants to use glibc for some programs it is no problem ... 14:29 < blindcoder> no, only a patch that updates gawk 14:29 < esden> I create a flexible system ... not a static unchangeble ... binary only ... stuff .. ;) 14:29 < Aard> esden: that's one of the reasons I won't give up dietlinux 14:29 < esden> blindcoder: hmpf 14:30 < esden> Aard: ohh god ... boy ... you do not understand what I say 14:30 < Aard> ? 14:30 < esden> dietlibc target is using only dietlibc ... just like your dietlinux 14:30 < esden> but you closed the door for integrating programs that run only on glibc ... /me not ... 14:31 < esden> if someone wants to have glibc there it is no problem ... he can have it 14:31 < esden> but in standard settings it is not there ... and the system is dietlibc only 14:31 < blindcoder> okay, seems like it builds now... 14:32 < blindcoder> wasn't hard to change, only an offset of ~4000 lines... 14:32 < Aard> dietlinux is not meant for systems where you need glibc. 14:32 < esden> blindcoder: lool 14:32 < blindcoder> 14:32 node16: finished job '1-gawk' (ok) 14:33 < esden> Aard: dietlibc target nither ... 14:34 < Aard> :) 14:34 < esden> but it can be run also on hybrid systems ... I think that is a big plus on my side 14:35 < Aard> I don't want it to be able to run glibc-stuff. 14:37 < esden> "flexibilitaet ... und nichtaufdringilchkeit was entscheidungen des endbenutzers angeht ist sehr wichtig, denn ich hasse es wenn mir leute vorschreiben wollen was richtig ist und was falsch ... deshalb bin ich auch bei rocklinux ... und werde nicht dietlinux benutzen ... weil du willst mir vorschreiben was ich kriege und was nicht, glibc kriege ich zum beispiel nicht ... auch wenn ich will." 14:37 < esden> sorry if it sounds bit harsh 14:37 < esden> is not ment so 14:38 < esden> Aard: you not ... but the users ... you do not create dietlinux only for your self. are you? 14:39 < Aard> esden: I create dietlinux mainly for people wanting a small and clean system, most of them want it for old hardware. 14:39 < blindcoder> esden: please ACK the dietlibc-gawk patch on the ML 14:40 < esden> blindcoder: it is not yet here ... I will ack it when it appeared 14:40 < blindcoder> wee, minimal target build just entered stage 9 14:41 < esden> Aard: the dietlibc target is the same. but can also be used for other things. Don't you understand the word flexibility? 14:41 -!- ringo78 [~ringo78@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux 14:41 < esden> blindcoder: nice 14:43 < blindcoder> esden: can you pick me up for tanzbar today? 14:44 < esden> blindcoder: Sorry that will be not possible. I have to help my parents in some things befor I go there ... >_< 14:45 < blindcoder> ah shit... okay, will have to get a ride somewhere else. 14:47 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-161-151.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:55 < esden> blindcoder: sorry ... :( 15:06 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-161-151.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("providerfuck") 15:09 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@gtso-d9b8c40b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:16 -!- ringo78 [~ringo78@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has quit () 15:16 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 15:19 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4FE35.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:24 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F0BE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:25 < esden> the activity here is really alarming ;) 15:25 < blindcoder> why? 15:25 < blindcoder> I have some Connection probs here... 15:26 -!- msp[clone] [msp@pD9E1663F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:26 < esden> because so many people are talking ;) 15:26 * Aard could redirect /dev/urandom... 15:27 < esden> blindcoder: teledum playing with it's routers again? 15:27 < esden> Aard: hehe ... no thanks 15:27 < blindcoder> esden: no, with it's dial-in machines... 15:27 < esden> i go insert some more gimmiks in my car ... 15:27 < esden> cu l8er 15:28 < blindcoder> baba 15:28 < blindcoder> esden: ! 15:28 < esden> ? 15:28 < blindcoder> esden: acked the patch already? 15:28 < esden> blindcoder: ack ... 15:28 < blindcoder> good 15:28 < esden> was it wrong? 15:28 < esden> should I wait some months? 15:28 < blindcoder> no, I just didn't receive any more mails the last 30 minutes, so I asked 15:29 < esden> ahh ok 15:29 < blindcoder> yes, december would be fine 15:29 < esden> hehe 15:29 * blindcoder now dresing for dancing 15:29 < blindcoder> byebye 15:30 * -> esden dressing for car hacking ;) 15:30 < esden> bye bye 15:33 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9E39AF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 15:41 -!- msp[] [msp@p5086FA07.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:00 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.229.192.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:01 -!- msp[clone] [msp@pD9E1663F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:01 -!- msp[clone] [msp@p5086FBC2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:14 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16:48 < rxr> re 17:03 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.229.192.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ("Client exiting") 17:16 < rxr> SMP: are you here ? 17:19 < SMP> jup 17:20 < rxr> arggghhh! Now M$ is also jumping on the my source is in linux waggon. 17:20 < rxr> are these bullshit bastards ......... 17:21 < rxr> SMP: I'm just about creating a new svn repository and could also create the net one in one go 17:21 < rxr> do you have a useful name in mind? 17:21 < rxr> e.g. rock-net ? 17:22 < SMP> hmmm 17:25 < rxr> or just rocknet as rockplug ? 17:26 < SMP> well, rocknet should be ok 17:29 < rxr> ok 17:30 -!- miroslav [1000@216.236.217.183] has joined #rocklinux 17:30 -!- miroslav is now known as rammi 17:30 < rammi> hi people.. 17:33 < rxr> https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rocknet 17:33 < rxr> SMP: do you want to get commit mails? 17:34 < SMP> hmm, no 17:36 < rxr> working title ROCK.net ? 17:36 < SMP> nah, better ROCK-Net 17:37 < SMP> no reference to .NET 17:37 < rxr> hm - then ROCK Net (without dash) 17:37 < rxr> like ROCK Plug ... 17:37 < SMP> ok 17:44 -!- rammi [1000@216.236.217.183] has quit ("Changing server") 18:25 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9E39AF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:28 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 18:38 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.213.124.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:42 < fake> hm is the list deas? 18:42 < fake> dead? 18:48 < cchamilt> rene, is the gawk changes put into svn? 18:48 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: christ|an 18:49 -!- Netsplit over, joins: christ|an 18:51 < fake> i got the last mail from the list at Sat Jul 26 02:18:45 18:51 < fake> can someone copy that? 18:51 < fake> sounds like ages ;) 18:58 < SMP> there was some traffic today 18:59 < fake> grmpf. 19:02 < christ|an> good evening :) 19:03 < christ|an> Iam back again :) 19:04 * rxr stability testing adn stessing the subversion server 19:05 -!- rammi [1000@216.236.217.163] has joined #rocklinux 19:05 < rxr> importing all my SANE/Avision patches from the last three years into the new repository using script ... 19:07 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9E39AF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:12 -!- msp[clone] [msp@p5086FBC2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ping timeout") 19:12 -!- msp[clone] [msp@p5086FBC2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:12 -!- rammi [1000@216.236.217.163] has quit ("Lost terminal") 19:13 -!- msp[clone] [msp@p5086FBC2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 19:13 -!- msp[] [msp@p5086FBC2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:13 < fake> arghl. my stupidity hurts.. 19:27 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9E39AF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:30 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 19:41 < mistik1> re all 19:42 < christ|an> re mistik1 19:43 < mistik1> this rock linux is making all sorts of ideas float in my brain 19:44 < mistik1> Now I ge to thinking would this not be a great way to build a LTSP server using the next generation of LTSP 19:45 < mistik1> which will be a build system not that different from what Rock is now however on a smaller scale 19:46 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@IP-213157026037.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:46 < mistik1> mnemoc was absolutely correct, this is an amazingly addictive project indeed 19:47 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9E39AF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 19:48 < fake> mistik1: gotcha! ;) 19:58 < owl> hi 19:59 < rxr> Linus Torvalds <to Linux v2.6.0-test2 20:00 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@IP-213157026037.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has quit (":x") 20:11 * fake listening to Tanzwut - Freude Schoener Goetterfunken 20:14 < msp[]> Indeed, Beethoven is neat. 20:16 * owl nü: wizo - weiter *headbang* 20:16 < fake> msp[]: and in a very interesting interpretion Tanzwut use verses from 'Faust' 20:17 < owl> faust I or faust II? 20:19 < msp[]> Wizo is Prollpunk IMHO :-P 20:20 < owl> msp[]: dunno. just don't know many songs of them 20:23 < SMP> rxr: around? 20:25 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9E39AF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:26 < christ|an> rehi :) 20:26 < christ|an> hua - what happend with the rock website? *g 20:26 < owl> hi christ|an 20:27 < christ|an> hi owl *bussi* 20:27 < christ|an> *g 20:28 < owl> waaah! go away! 20:28 < christ|an> hihi 20:28 * owl takes her knive and "bedroht" christ|an with it 20:29 < christ|an> lol 20:30 < christ|an> hey owl - i hope you know - everything i say like "*bussi*" and so on are only gags *g 20:30 * capchaos takes a dictionary and threatens owl :p 20:32 < owl> christ|an: yes. for your own security 20:32 < owl> hi capchaos ! ;) 20:32 < capchaos> Hola, buho! 20:33 < christ|an> well owl - i have a good firewall :) 20:33 < owl> christ|an: it won't help 20:33 < christ|an> and a rock system running *g 20:33 < christ|an> and a sweet face :) 20:34 < owl> sweet face? *roftl* nah. thx. i don't need someone with a sweet face - already have one :ppp 20:34 < christ|an> :( 20:35 < SMP> owl: your dog? 20:35 < christ|an> lol 20:35 < owl> SMP: nah ;p don't have a dog. 20:36 < SMP> a penguin? 20:36 < owl> hm. a homo sapiens i would say... ;p 20:36 < christ|an> :) :) :) i hope not - the poor penguin 20:37 < owl> .oO(toasted penguins are having a nice taste) 20:37 < christ|an> i will go to bed NOW :) 20:38 < christ|an> long day tomorrow 20:38 < christ|an> i wish you all a nice sunday and a good week 20:38 < christ|an> cya 20:38 < owl> hah. having vacation for 2 weeks is great. *sitting relaxed in bed* ;p 20:38 < owl> bye christ|an 20:38 < christ|an> *grummel* 20:39 < owl> *har* 20:39 * christ|an off and away 20:39 * christ|an is away: schlaf0rn 20:40 < christ|an> struct owl { int iq = 0; } 20:40 < christ|an> hahahahaha 20:41 < owl> that's not funny! i'm knowing by my own dumb, that i'm having an iq of 0 points 20:41 < christ|an> oh okay *g 20:41 -!- netrunne1 [~netrunner@p50802404.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:42 < christ|an> but this is a good hacker gag *g 20:42 < christ|an> struct christ|an { int iq = 999; } 20:42 < christ|an> *g 20:42 < christ|an> nice nicd 20:42 < owl> nah 20:42 < christ|an> and now i will go :) 20:43 < christ|an> goto ... and so on :) 20:43 < owl> ... 20:43 < christ|an> owl - which programming lang you learn at school mainly 20:44 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802C71.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20:45 < owl> christ|an: at school? don't know. i'm not a pupil anymore (at least not at "normal" school) 20:45 < owl> (but at vacational school?) 20:45 < christ|an> i thought you learn fachinformatikerin 20:46 < owl> yes. but voc_school != normal school. and at voc_school you're learning vb and java (at least in our) 20:47 < christ|an> i mean that :) 20:47 < christ|an> vb == shit :) 20:47 < msp[]> heh 20:47 < owl> aha. 20:48 < msp[]> C!!!!!11111 20:48 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-196.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:48 < owl> hi Nebukadneza 20:48 < christ|an> hi Nebukadneza 20:48 < msp[]> hi Nebukadneza 20:48 < christ|an> i was faster *g 20:48 < Nebukadneza> :) 20:48 < Nebukadneza> hi christ|an 20:53 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9E39AF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 21:02 < esden> puhh ... hi all 21:05 * -> esden confirms that vb == shit 21:05 < esden> ;) 21:06 < Nebukadneza> esden: right! 21:10 < msp[]> I used to code in 68k 21:10 < msp[]> asm 21:20 < esden> argl ... the CCCamp registration is broken >_< 21:21 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@gtso-d9b8c40b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit ("Temet nosce.") 21:21 < Nebukadneza> esden: was? 21:21 < esden> Nebukadneza: "You don't have permission to access /signup.php on this server." 21:22 < Nebukadneza> esden: CCCamp? 21:22 < esden> ack 21:22 < esden> Nebukadneza: https://www.ccc.de/camp/2003/index.en.html 21:25 < Nebukadneza> ah 21:25 < Nebukadneza> thx 21:31 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@IP-213157026037.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:35 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@IP-213157026037.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has quit (Client Quit) 21:36 * -> esden is asking himself where is netrunne1 21:51 < msp[]> to wonder 21:51 < msp[]> :-P 21:59 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-196.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 22:03 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-196.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:06 < rxr> hi esden 22:11 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M274P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 22:12 < n00kie> moin :) 22:15 < SMP> rxr: I can't seem to find the code where the move of cups binaries to name_cups happens ... 22:18 < rxr> SMP: I also noticed it is broken 22:18 < rxr> it should work in the way it works for the mail-tranfer-agent ... 22:19 < SMP> well, where's the damn code? ;-O 22:20 < SMP> it's completely broken 22:21 < rxr> SMP: I'm currently doing SANE/Avisin (to not let the users kick me even more ...) 22:21 < SMP> all that moving around and INSTALL_WRAPPER_FILTER-ing must stop 22:21 < rxr> why ? 22:22 < SMP> rxr: so you don't know where the code is? ;) 22:22 < SMP> there is absolutely no excuse why well known commands (and manpages) are called differently 22:23 * daja77 waves 22:23 < rxr> SMP: yes - I have not searched for it yet 22:23 < rxr> SMP: maybe Cliff forgot to add it .., 22:23 < rxr> SMP: because they are not so well known, but used by several packages 22:24 * SMP hates some package maintainers! 22:24 < rxr> if prolog and ploticus both use the "pl" command it is obvious that I need to rename ploticus to "ploticus" instead of "pl" ... 22:24 < rxr> SMP: which ones ? 22:25 < SMP> why do these idiots not even bother looking at the flist or running their damn program at least once to see that it completely does not work?! 22:25 < SMP> kterm e.g. does not (at all) work with devfs 22:26 < SMP> I already fixed problems like these in openmotif, lesstif, nedit and lvm 22:27 < rxr> SMP: patches will show up? 22:27 < SMP> as soon as I have an MTA set up on my beta6 or I am back on 1.4.0 22:27 < SMP> (tomorrow) 22:31 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-196.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 22:31 < SMP> rxr: please check if util-linux still produces bogus /sbin/bin and /usr/sbin/bin dirctories (should be in the stage 1 build) 22:56 -!- rammi [1000@216.236.217.163] has joined #rocklinux 22:57 < rxr> SMP: nope - doesn't seem so ... 23:01 < rxr> strange - am I again hunting a compiler bug on PPC ? 23:01 -!- rammi [1000@216.236.217.163] has quit ("leaving") 23:09 < netrunne1> re. grmbl. xfree86 does not compile. rm: cannot remove `/usr/X11': Is a directory --- BUILD ERROR --- 23:10 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 23:13 < netrunner> oh dear, the current revs are not that buildable, hey? 5-samba: sed: can't read examples/smb.conf.default: No such file or directory 23:13 < SMP> I have a fix for that (and some other samba problems) already 23:13 < netrunner> SMP: on the rlml? 23:14 < SMP> but I guess we will be upgrading it to 3.0beta and so I am not yet sending them 23:14 < esden> ahh .. netrunner 23:14 < esden> very good that you are here 23:18 < esden> hmm ... but he died after one minute, interesting 23:20 < n00kie> Hey esden, SMP, netrunner :) 23:20 < esden> hi n00kie 23:25 < rxr> SMP: do you also vote for 3.0 ? I not yet sure whether to updatre .. 23:27 < SMP> I would be fine with 3.0 - if there gets a little more brain power into the update than just bumping the verion 23:29 < rxr> SMP: yes - the last time I installed samba I also had to fix much - but sadly that was in a hurry at university - so I did not made patches out of it 23:30 < rxr> I recently wiped out much of the brain-dead code lines that where still present from the cp sourceforge/samba rene/ -r ... 23:32 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-196.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux --- Log closed Mon Jul 28 00:00:01 2003