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--- Log opened Mon Sep 15 00:00:05 2003 --- Day changed Mon Sep 15 2003 00:00 < [CTG]Wibra> rxr: now how do i mount the scsi-disk? do i need to get a driver from seagate (my scsidisk manufacterer) 00:00 < rxr> the generation will even detect if MacOS-C is installed 00:00 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: no no! 00:00 < Freak> rxr: yes I want to. I will add debian manually to it. 00:00 < rxr> Freak: ok then go 00:00 < rxr> Mac-OS-X even .. 00:01 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: that your SCSI adapter did not worked out of the box is totally oncommon in the Linux world 00:01 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: everything is normally included in the kernel in a working state ... 00:01 < [CTG]Wibra> ok, but the adapter works now. how do i find my hd? 00:01 < Freak> how do I change the bootstrap device? 00:02 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: all SCSI disks are the same 00:02 < rxr> like IDE disk are all common - you do not need a driver for each one - not even in the windows world ... 00:02 < rxr> you got the module loaded? 00:02 < [CTG]Wibra> yes 00:02 < rxr> and you see your adapter when you do cat /proc/scsi/scsi ? 00:02 < Freak> rxr: it won't let me change bootstrap-/root-/boot-device. 00:03 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: one minute - I kiss my girlfriend goodnight ... 00:03 < rxr> Freak: this are the detected values that are not intended to be changed (also I shoudl make them changeable ? ;-) 00:03 < rxr> if you need to change them (do you ?) you need to do this manually ... 00:03 < Freak> yes you should because it missdetects the bootstrap device. 00:03 < rxr> moment - cu in a minute 00:05 < [CTG]Wibra> rxr: something weird. it says "host scsi0: *myidecdromdrive* and hostscsi1 *myscsicdromdrive*" but not my seagate disk :( (which was detected when booting by my scsi-adapter bios... i think) 00:06 < [CTG]Wibra> rxr: gonna reboot just to make sure it _did_ detect my disk 00:08 < Freak> rxr: you have some seriously ugly hacks in that thing ;) 00:08 < Freak> rxr: you *must* have some seriously ugly hacks in that thing ;) 00:08 < Freak> it doesnt detect the things, you must have hardcoded em ;) 00:09 < Freak> first of all: bootstrap is set to /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part <-- ! 00:09 < Freak> here it is (hd=hdc) /dev/ide/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/part3 00:10 < Freak> macosx=/dev/ide/host_0_/bus0/target0/lun0/part2, where part2 is correct while host0 is wrong.. 00:12 < rxr> re 00:13 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: no reboot! 00:13 < [CTG]Wibra> already did, but recopied driver and insmodded 00:13 < jsaw> rxr: do you have a script for renaming pkgs? 00:13 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: ok driver modprobed again? 00:13 < [CTG]Wibra> yes 00:13 < rxr> jsaw: yes - I rember I ad this ... 00:14 < rxr> jsaw: https://www.rocklinux.net/people/rene/rock-tools/ 00:14 < jsaw> rxr: I have to rename a 4 of em to avoid gnome24 clashes, should I send a patch or shall I tell you, what to rename? 00:15 < rxr> jsaw: ah - then tell me what to rename ... 00:16 < rxr> otherwise ConvertPkgName4Version.sh renames the files based on the directory ... 00:17 < Freak> --- I'm going to REBOOT now. 00:17 < rxr> Freak: it is not hardcoded ... 00:18 < jsaw> rxr: oh, actually 5: gnome2/epiphany -> epiphany10, gnome2/gucharmap -> gucharmap08, gnome2/libgsf -> libgsf18, gnome2/orbit2 -> orbit22, x11/librsvg -> librsvg22 00:18 < Freak> its buggy then. 00:18 < rxr> Freak: yes seems so - it is not yet widely tested ... 00:18 < rxr> Freak: I just take a look 00:19 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: ok try modprobe sd 00:19 < Freak> and I cant reboot :) 00:19 < rxr> Freak: what do you mean with you can not reboot ? 00:19 < Freak> no initctl 00:20 < [CTG]Wibra> rxr: insmodding alright too? 00:20 < Freak> how can I reboot with no /dev/initctl? 00:20 < Freak> and even locate doesnt find it :) 00:20 < Freak> geeeez! 00:20 < Freak> :) 00:20 < rxr> Freak: this is a install environment - you can not do init* stuff inside the chroot ! 00:20 < rxr> there is no init running !!!! 00:21 < Freak> lol ic :) 00:21 < rxr> exit your shell and do a shutdown in the bootdisk 00:21 < Freak> there must be some consoles of the install environment left 00:21 < [CTG]Wibra> rxr: "sd: no module by that name found" 00:21 < rxr> (as the docs say) 00:21 < Freak> yes. 00:21 < Freak> that did it 00:21 < rxr> just shutdown without any param is ok in the bootdisk ... 00:21 < Freak> what docs :) 00:21 < Freak> i said "reboot" now 00:22 < rxr> erhm - reboot will not unmount your filesystems ... - but anyway ... 00:22 < Freak> heh 00:22 < Freak> ah freak it :) 00:22 < Freak> booting for the first time. 00:23 < Freak> getting modprobe errors. 00:23 < Freak> no usb-related modules. 00:23 < Freak> Setting keyboard repeat rate and delay time - no alternative method for this platform: invalid agument 00:23 < Freak> +r 00:23 < rxr> Freak: yes - this is due to old rockplug - it has some hardcoded modules - just ignore them - with the next rockplug version this will be fone and pretty ... 00:24 < rxr> Freak: yes - this ok and known (in fact the kernel has no support to do this for PowerPC - and I had to improve the kbd stuff to not hang - but to not use the PC io-port method and hang your box 00:25 < rxr> I really do not know what other ditribution do hack around and not feed the stuff back into the open source world 00:25 < Freak> hm 00:25 < Freak> I don't understand this kinda stuff :) 00:25 < rxr> also VNC can never be compiled on PowerPC ... - just on ROCK now - upstream patch to be send ... 00:26 < rxr> so [CTG]Wibra 00:26 < [CTG]Wibra> yes :) 00:26 < rxr> cat /proc/scsi/scsi does not list your disks ? 00:26 < [CTG]Wibra> it lists 2 cdrom drives 00:26 < [CTG]Wibra> my ide and my scsi 00:26 < [CTG]Wibra> but not my scsi hd 00:26 < Freak> lol 00:27 < Freak> this is fscked. 00:27 < [CTG]Wibra> already sent support request to qlogic, just in case 00:27 < rxr> hm 00:27 < rxr> the scsi disk support should be compiled into the kernel - and they should show up - strange ... 00:28 < Freak> I made an entry for debian in the yaboot.conf and said image=/mnt/debian/boot/vmlinux - when I try to boot it, it doesnt find the image for it doesnt find that directory on /dev/hdc5(debian) of course. 00:28 < Freak> when I say image=/boot/vmlinux, it takes the rock kernel for debian :) 00:28 < Freak> which, of course, fails :) 00:29 < [CTG]Wibra> also, is it normal that i can't open my scsi-cdrom drive now? 00:29 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: when you execute "dmesg | grep -i scsi" do you get something useful - like some warning or error 00:29 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: when the CDROM is mounted you can not open it - only when it is unmounted you can eject it ... 00:29 < [CTG]Wibra> i didn't mount it :( perhaps it did automatically 00:30 < [CTG]Wibra> but there is no cdrom present, don't see how it can mount 00:30 < Freak> rxr: it wants to insert an airport module. I don't have airport. and I won't have airport for airport extreme is not supported in linux (broadcom chipset) 00:32 < Freak> piece of shoot. 00:32 < rxr> Freak: mom - investigating 00:32 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: this is strange 00:33 < [CTG]Wibra> rxr: a lot of timeouts in the output 00:33 < rxr> Freak: what do you mean with airport extreme - you do not have it, correct? 00:33 < Freak> right 00:33 < Freak> I don't and I won't as long as it isnt supported. 00:34 < [CTG]Wibra> on a sidenote, it detected my cdrom as a 32/32 while it is only 24/12, but this is not my biggest problem (just want it to use mainly as a reader, not writer) 00:35 < [CTG]Wibra> perhaps if i junk around in the settings of my scsi adapter :) 00:35 < Freak> boot: Debian 00:35 < [CTG]Wibra> or, set the scsidisk on another bus 00:35 < Freak> hd:6,/mnt/debian/boot/vmlinux: No such file., 00:35 < Freak> .,=.. 00:36 < Freak> wheeee my debian kernel panics! 00:36 < Freak> (booted by hand now) 00:36 < [CTG]Wibra> aiee ;) 00:37 < Freak> dang 00:37 < Freak> ah wait 00:37 < Freak> i guess i got it 00:37 < Freak> need to tell it which root to take.. 00:37 < Freak> what was the syntax again.. 00:37 < rxr> Freak: not only root - you also need to tell yaboot to use another partiion to get the image 00:38 < rxr> I just read the yaboot man-page cross - and I think 00:38 < rxr> image=/debian-boot-dir/debian-kerne 00:38 < Freak> yes of course! 00:38 < Freak> I did that! 00:38 < rxr> partition=debian-partition 00:38 < rxr> should do the thing 00:38 < Freak> does not :) 00:38 < rxr> nope I think you added the path where it was mounted inside ROCK Linux, correct ? 00:38 < Freak> but I'll check it again, now I'm not totally sure anymore. 00:39 < Freak> tho I checked it twice 00:39 < rxr> /mnt/debian/boot/vmlinux 00:39 < rxr> ^- wrong 00:39 < rxr> just /boot/bmlinux 00:39 < Freak> I tried that. 00:39 < rxr> and parition=<number> 00:39 < Freak> it didn't get the partition right then. 00:39 < rxr> partition even 00:39 < Freak> rebooting, hang on 00:40 < rxr> and you need a root=/dev/hda<number> 00:40 < rxr> if this does not work yaboot does not support dual booting to dists .... 00:40 < Freak> that would be pretty crappy. 00:40 < rxr> (never tried this ... - but it should work this way) 00:41 < rxr> you could copy the debian kernel into the ROCK Linux /boot dir ... 00:41 < rxr> this will work definetely ... 00:41 < Freak> yes.. 00:41 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: so - you have many timeout ? 00:42 < [CTG]Wibra> yes 00:42 < Freak> wait, you say it needs a partition argument? ok I don't have this one, my bad 00:42 < rxr> Freak: yes - otherwise yaboot will search for the image on the ROCK Linux partition 00:42 < rxr> what kind of timeouts ? 00:43 < [CTG]Wibra> scsi: aborting command due to timeout: pid 335, scsi1, channel 0,id1, lun0 0x12 00 00 00 ff 00 00:43 < [CTG]Wibra> then bus reset 00:44 < [CTG]Wibra> hmm, only 1 timeout, i must have mislooked 00:44 < rxr> hm 00:45 < rxr> what does cat /proc/interrupts say? 00:45 < [CTG]Wibra> but after it detects scsicdrom, it tries again at channel0 00:45 < Freak> uhm 00:45 < Freak> the manpage says 'partition' is a one-time option, if I get it right. 00:45 < [CTG]Wibra> rxr: irq11 xt-pic qla1280 00:45 < rxr> it is lised in the PER-IMAGE-OPTIONS 00:46 < rxr> PER-IMAGE SECTIONS 00:46 < rxr> A per-image section starts with either a line 00:46 < rxr> partition=part_no 00:46 < rxr> Specifies the default partition number (a digit, hda1 is part_no 00:46 < rxr> ... 00:46 < Freak> oh 00:46 < Freak> hm 00:46 < Freak> scuse me. 00:46 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: and the relevant part of lspci ? ,-) 00:47 < [CTG]Wibra> lspci? 00:47 < Freak> ok now it's looking for the kernel on the right partition but I forgot to change the image from /mnt/debian to / :) 00:47 < [CTG]Wibra> k, its a commond :) 00:47 < rxr> ;-) 00:48 < [CTG]Wibra> "scsi storage controller: blablabla isp12160 dual channel ultra 3 scsi procesoor rev05 00:48 < rxr> hm - I once hat the complete SCSI Spec - where is it fone - damn 00:48 < rxr> cytrinox: and the dma, io-port and irq configs ? 00:48 < rxr> oh - cool - google works again for me ;-) 00:49 < Freak> xf86cfg exits 1 00:51 < rxr> Freak: ah well - XFree is a bit touchy on PowerPC ... 00:51 < rxr> Freak: the best is just to try your debian config ... 00:51 < Freak> aaaaaahhhh did you just say debian?!! 00:51 < Freak> :))) 00:52 < rxr> Freak: nope 00:53 < rxr> I said Debian - but did not meant Debian are the only ones that get it right 00:53 < rxr> in fact for the XFree drivers are just fsck 00:53 < Freak> =) 00:53 < rxr> for my ati it does not work to setup the LCD port - so I need Option "UseFBDev" 00:53 < rxr> and all is fine - X then uses the FrameBuffer to swtich the mode 00:53 < Freak> duh X doesnt start up 00:53 < rxr> this is not different on Debian 00:54 < rxr> s.th. similar might be needed for you nvidia card - I have not such a card ... 00:54 < rxr> Freak: what is the errror now ? 00:54 < rxr> (maybe the only thing that needs to be adapted is the mouse device node ...)= 00:54 < Freak> investigating.. 00:55 < Freak> it doesnt find the nv driver I'm using.. 00:56 < Freak> I'm not sure if this is actually in debian 00:56 < Freak> I installed some unofficial packages 00:56 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 00:57 < rxr> Freak: did you had hardware 3d with your nvidia card? 00:57 < Freak> no 00:57 < Freak> are there drivers for nvidia-3d? 00:57 < Freak> (ppc) 00:57 < Freak> there are no official drivers by nvidia 00:58 < A-Tui> hola 00:58 < rxr> Freak: I do not know - this is why I asked. ... 00:59 < rxr> Freak: but strange - the vanilla XFree does not build a nvidia driver for PowerPC ... shit 00:59 < rxr> use the fb driver for the next hours 00:59 < rxr> I investigate ... 01:00 < Freak> how would I? 01:01 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: the command which fails for you is INQUIRY - this is the very basic command to get information about the device ... 01:01 < rxr> Freak: Driver "fb" 01:01 < rxr> IIRC 01:01 < [CTG]Wibra> second 01:01 < [CTG]Wibra> brb 01:01 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: how many devices do you have on your SCSI bus ? 01:03 < Freak> huh 01:03 < Freak> it says no drivers available 01:04 < Freak> would I have to change the PCI BusID or something? 01:05 < Freak> I think I installed some unofficial dri-package to support the card..? 01:06 < rxr> a yes - with the fb driver you might beed the correct busid in the XF86Config ... 01:06 < rxr> you get the ID best out of /var/log/X... 01:08 < Freak> hrm 01:08 < Freak> I have something in my XF86Config, would it be a different BusID? 01:09 < Freak> its a different kernel so if its a kernel thing it might need something different. 01:09 < Freak> else something else is the problem. 01:09 < Freak> my mind is too messy to think clearly about that now :| 01:11 < [CTG]Wibra> rxr: i have 2 devices on my adapter 01:12 < [CTG]Wibra> i should reboot to see which device takes up which channel/bus 01:13 < rxr> Freak: I would need the full XFree log to tell you which ID and / or error you have ... 01:13 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: nope - I just thought thay you might have some terminaton or too long cable problem ... 01:13 < [CTG]Wibra> i used lspci in verbose mode: 01:14 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: this is really bad - the developer of that driver should be able to tell more - I have neither the specs nor test hardware ... 01:14 < [CTG]Wibra> flags: bus master, 66mhz, medium devsel, latency64, irq11, io port at 1400[size=256] 01:15 < rxr> you have a 66Mhz PCI bus? 01:15 < [CTG]Wibra> memory at f4000000 (32bit] [disabled] [size=4k] 01:15 < [CTG]Wibra> euhm 01:15 < [CTG]Wibra> how do i know? 01:15 < [CTG]Wibra> mobo config? 01:15 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: is this an expensive server mainboard? 01:15 < [CTG]Wibra> no 01:16 < [CTG]Wibra> dell desktop mobo 01:16 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 01:16 < [CTG]Wibra> the card itself is 64bit, but it sits in a 32bit pci slot 01:17 < rxr> why do you have this SCSI controler *sigh* 01:17 < [CTG]Wibra> :) cheapo in comparison to adaptec 01:17 < [CTG]Wibra> cheapo, but supporting ultra3scsi 01:18 < rxr> which OSs did run correct yet? Some RedHat and Windows? 01:19 < [CTG]Wibra> yes 01:19 < [CTG]Wibra> rh6.3 i believe 01:19 < [CTG]Wibra> how about: i install redhat, and then overwrite it with rock? 01:20 < rxr> the ROCK kernel would not be able to use the SCSI controler just as now ... 01:20 < rxr> only redhat? No other OS tried? 01:20 < [CTG]Wibra> well, yes. win9x and winxp 01:21 < Freak> rxr: just tried to scp the log to my server's public_html but I don't have net_working. 01:22 < rxr> Freak: ifconfig -a does say what? 01:22 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 01:22 < Freak> eth0 wasnt configured. 01:22 < rxr> ah yes - you should use stone to set the default runlevel to 3 01:23 < SMP> hi, I'm just stopping by 01:23 < rxr> or enable network in the runlevel 2 (also in stone= 01:23 < Freak> https://linuid.dyn.bawue.de/~freak/guckmal/XFree86.log.0 01:23 < rxr> or just run /etc/rc.d/init.d/network start manually 01:23 < SMP> rxr: you marked the enlightenment category as done, but I don't see any changes in the tree? 01:24 < SMP> apart from the line in PKG-CATEGORIES 01:24 < Freak> rxr: ah. set default runlevel to three. 01:24 < rxr> SMP: I did not changed the packages .desc files jsaw: could you do this? 01:25 < Freak> switched to init 3 manually now 01:25 < rxr> SMP: you only asked for the category .... 01:25 < rxr> Freak: ok - could you upload your config file 01:26 < SMP> rxr: uh, well, ok. I still have my list of packages, I can do it easily. should just add the category as a second one to each of these packages? 01:26 < Freak> https://linuid.dyn.bawue.de/~freak/guckmal/XF86Config-ppc_rock 01:26 < rxr> SMP: yes 01:27 < SMP> rxr: I guess I should leave out imlib2 / imlib2_loaders ? 01:27 < rxr> Freak: Driver needs to be fb 01:27 < rxr> not offb ... 01:27 < Freak> yes that was just a try 01:28 < rxr> the BusID should be correct 01:28 < rxr> 0:16:0 01:28 < rxr> SMP: yes 01:29 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: I think the best is to try a new bootdisk image with an slightly newer kernel - and see if this helps before deeper investigation ... 01:29 < [CTG]Wibra> alright 01:30 < SMP> rxr: hehe, you mistyped the category - I'll patch that too ;) 01:31 < [CTG]Wibra> where do i find a newer bootdisk image? 01:31 < rxr> SMP: oh my - ok 01:31 < rxr> SMP: you could have sent a patch in the first place ... 01:31 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: I can tell you when I rebuild it with the updated SCSI driver today (but after sleep ...) 01:31 < [CTG]Wibra> alright 01:32 < SMP> rxr: I should have stated in the task that I was on it (including .desc files) 01:33 < Freak> rxr: what kind of a "driver" does the config file refer to anyway? 01:35 < rxr> Freak: oeh the XFree86 video driver? 01:35 < rxr> Freak: I just created a modification to build nv for PowerPC 01:35 < fake> hm, where is libstdc++-libc6* ? 01:35 < rxr> I'll do this over the night on the rs6k - and we can try after sleep what it does on your PowerPC ... 01:35 < Freak> rxr: what is "dri" then? 01:35 < rxr> direct rendering interface 01:36 < rxr> err or infrastrcture ... 01:36 < Freak> uhkay 01:36 < rxr> an interface for DMA and some memory stuff for 3d - this are not normal driver 01:36 < rxr> bzw. DRI is a internal XFree86 API 01:37 < rxr> DRM (Direct Rendering Manager) is the driver part inside the linux-kernel ... 01:37 < fake> forget above dumb question 01:37 < rxr> Freak: ? 01:37 < rxr> errr fake? 01:38 < fake> nothing 01:38 < Freak> rxr: uhm thanks btw for nv 01:39 < Freak> thanks for the isos anyway 01:40 < Freak> btw the root entry in yaboot.conf has to be in non-devfs too, just saw that.. 01:41 < rxr> Freak: to boot debian?, yes! 01:41 < rxr> Freak: could you point out the stone mis-configuration in the yaboot.conf? 01:41 < rxr> I can not believe a missing 0 after host ... 01:41 < Freak> uhm no 01:41 < Freak> there was a missing number after part 01:42 < Freak> and host was wrong two times 01:42 < Freak> but the number was not _missing_ 01:42 < rxr> what? two times? 01:42 < Freak> yes 01:42 < rxr> (that is kinda impossible ... *wonder*) 01:42 < Freak> for the bootstrap partition it was "host0" and "part", would have been 1 and 3 01:42 < Freak> and for macosx it was host0 where it would have had to be host1 01:42 < rxr> could you mail me: pdisk -l /dev/discs/disc0/disc 01:43 < rxr> host0 and host1? Do you have two disk in your Power Book ? 01:44 < Freak> no the optical drive is host0 01:44 < Freak> (hda) 01:45 < rxr> heah? the CD-ROM ist on the pirmary channel and the disk on the secondary ? 01:45 < Freak> https://linuid.dyn.bawue.de/~freak/guckmal/partitions 01:45 < Freak> yup. 01:45 < rxr> erhm - why ? 01:45 < Freak> ask apple? 01:46 < rxr> erhm - aeh - gluck - schluck 01:46 < Freak> =) 01:46 < rxr> damn - ok then the yaboot setup will indeed fsck up ... - sorry 01:46 < rxr> I'll put this on the top of the todo for tomorrow ... 01:46 < Freak> :) 01:47 * Freak <- useful for rock development ;) 01:47 < rxr> yeah - indeed# 01:47 < Freak> (: 01:47 < rxr> ;-) 01:48 < Freak> it is good being useful ONLY ONCE *cry* 01:48 * Freak sets mode +owl for Freak 01:48 < Freak> scnr ;) 01:48 < rxr> ,) 01:56 < Freak> its fn cold 02:01 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: do you have the URL of the last qlogic patch you send handy ? 02:11 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: ping 02:13 < Freak> --> bluedream (reike110@braucht.endlich.mal.ein.gutes.b3triebssystem.de) has joined #karlsruhe 02:13 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: ok - now I found an even newer patch ... 02:14 < Freak> =) 02:18 < rxr> nope :-(( 02:18 < [CTG]Wibra> im here 02:18 < [CTG]Wibra> where you found it? 02:22 * fake off 02:22 < fake> bye 02:22 -!- fake [~fake@pD9E4D1B2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("[BX] Whyismyspacebarnotworking?!") 02:28 < rxr> o qla1280 02:28 < rxr> - manufacturer: QLOGIC 02:28 < rxr> - kernel: 3.00 (Jan 17, 1999)-> DANGER !! very outdated 02:29 < Freak> https://www.symlink.ch/articles/03/09/12/1350252.shtml -- hahaha this is cool :) 02:29 < rxr> https://www.trained-monkey.org/jes/linux/ 02:30 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: but the patch does not apply cleanly ... it needs much manual merging ... 02:36 -!- Pyro [~mike@ip228-62.ct.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 02:37 < mnemoc> rxr: 1999 and kernel 2.4??? 02:37 < mnemoc> i think a 'merge' is not safe 02:43 < mnemoc> on january of 1999 the first -test of linux22 were released... so it's *highly* possible that the patch is designed for linux20 02:43 < rxr> which patch? the SCSI one above is for 2.4 ... 02:44 < rxr> ah - the comment? ;-) That is the driver date in the current 2.4 kernel - the driver just oopses on [CTG]Wibra ... 02:44 < mnemoc> oops... i didn't see jes/linux link :) sorry 02:45 < rxr> I need to go to bed - my girlfirend would not be very happy otherwise and esden will come over in some hours ... 02:45 < rxr> cu 02:45 < mnemoc> gn8 rxr 02:57 < [CTG]Wibra> gn8 03:45 < rolla> re 03:51 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 03:59 < mistik1> oops 04:09 -!- kiki_ [~kiki@200.72.82.182] has joined #rocklinux 04:09 -!- acm_kiki [~kiki@164.77.101.158] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:25 -!- ELeCtRoN [~WoLvErInE@200.106.164.253] has joined #rocklinux 05:30 -!- ELeCtRoN [~WoLvErInE@200.106.164.253] has left #rocklinux () 05:54 -!- Pyro [~mike@ip228-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 05:54 < Pyro> hello 05:54 < Pyro> ping rolla 07:04 < blindcoder> moin 07:12 -!- kiki_ [~kiki@200.72.82.182] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 07:19 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M309P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 07:33 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td90918f6.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:09 < Pyro> hi blindcoder 08:09 < blindcoder> hi Pyro ! 08:09 < Pyro> Wie geht es Ihnen? 08:10 < blindcoder> long time no see, how's life? 08:10 < blindcoder> Ah well... got a bad stomach atm, guesss I ate something bad... 08:10 < Pyro> life's ok i guess, and yours? 08:10 < Pyro> poor blindy 08:10 < blindcoder> yes, I feel sorry for myself, too :-) 08:11 < blindcoder> but besides that everything's fine ^^ 08:11 < Pyro> good to know 08:26 -!- Lightkey [jonas@dialin-145-254-242-230.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:27 < Lightkey> omg aszlig ist ja auch da, und n00kie 08:27 < Lightkey> ciao 08:27 -!- Lightkey [jonas@dialin-145-254-242-230.arcor-ip.net] has left #rocklinux () 09:09 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td90918f6.adsl.terralink.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 09:29 < rxr> re 09:30 < blindcoder> moin rxr 09:45 < Freak> rxr: re 09:53 < Pyro> hi rxr und Freak 09:53 * blindcoder looking forward to today's Q-Audit 09:53 < Freak> hey Pyro 10:07 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4FF39.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:07 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p50801D3F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 10:07 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 10:10 < daja77> hi Pyro 10:11 < blindcoder> moin daja77 10:11 < Pyro> hello daja77 10:12 < daja77> moin blindy 10:12 < daja77> what's up? 10:16 < blindcoder> ah, nothing much 10:16 < blindcoder> just a bad stomach 10:16 < daja77> hmm 10:16 < blindcoder> I think the cheese on the "Jurafest" wasn't good.. 10:20 < daja77> hmm don't trust lawyers ... 10:21 < daja77> well bbl 10:22 < rxr> blindcoder: Q-Audit ? 10:22 < blindcoder> I don't know what this has to do with lawyers, but it sounds good :-) 10:22 < rxr> hy Pyro - how are you? 10:22 < blindcoder> rxr: yes, there's a ISO 9002 Quality Management Audit here today 10:25 < rxr> greating to all from esden ;-)! 10:30 * blindcoder waves to esden and throws a club at him 10:32 < Pyro> rxr: quite good and you ? 10:33 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:33 < owl> moin 10:33 < blindcoder> moin moin 10:35 < blindcoder> I wonder if I can tell the Auditors to fuck off if they can't type my password... 10:44 < Pyro> blindcoder: yes you can :) 10:44 < Pyro> owl: hello. 10:45 < owl> hi Pyro 10:46 < blindcoder> Pyro: will it be good for me? 10:46 < Pyro> guess not... 10:47 < Pyro> but it might be fun to see the expression of their faces :) 10:47 < blindcoder> might be worth a try... 10:47 * Pyro still trying to get used to his new work schedule.. 10:47 < blindcoder> might be even more fun because I won't be here anymore next month 10:47 < Pyro> 7pm to 4am... sun to thu ... 10:47 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M316P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 10:48 < Pyro> blindcoder: cool, so you have nothing to loose 10:48 < Pyro> hi n00kie 10:48 < blindcoder> Pyro: wee, that means you will be here when I am here, too :-) 10:49 < Pyro> blindcoder: yes :) 10:50 < Pyro> i'm not back to rock dev, but i will get the cahnce to hang around often 10:51 < blindcoder> well, that's at least something :) 10:51 < Pyro> yeah :) 10:56 * blindcoder off to lunch 10:57 < owl> blindcoder: guten hunger 11:00 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M309P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:30 * blindcoder back 12:06 -!- [anders] [~snafu@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has joined #rocklinux 12:08 < [anders]> moin... 12:09 < blindcoder> moin moin 12:10 * [anders] went to Telford yesterday to pick up two NFC kittens, came back home with three.. 12:10 < Pyro> hello [anders] 12:10 < [anders]> lo Pyro 12:11 < [anders]> Pyro: up late or early? 12:11 < [anders]> :) 12:11 < Pyro> [anders]: knows who am i ? (hope you do) 12:11 < [anders]> Pyro: easy.. :) /whois is your friend.. ;-) 12:11 < Pyro> [anders]: m... late.. my new work schedule is 7pm to 4am 12:11 < daja77> Pyro == party Mike 12:11 * daja77 hides 12:12 * [anders] thinks daja77 seen too much MTV Jackass.. 12:12 < Pyro> little daja77 no need to hide 12:12 < daja77> ;-) 12:13 * daja77 trying to get some breakfast 12:14 < Pyro> you are getting brakfast and i am getting ready to go to sleep quite hironic.. 12:15 < daja77> hehe yeah, gn8 Miguel 12:15 < Pyro> not yet... will be around for at least 30 more minutes 12:15 < daja77> guess i will need longer 12:16 < Pyro> ok enjoy :) 12:16 * [anders] wonders what mess he'll come home to, with three kittens on a rampage alone all day.. 12:17 < blindcoder> [anders]: will you let them near the juice-maker? 12:18 < [anders]> blindcoder: err, no.. 12:18 < [anders]> :) 12:18 < blindcoder> [anders]: well, then there should be no problem :-) 12:18 < [anders]> they have already discovered that the wallpaper it climbable.. 12:18 < [anders]> s/it/is/ 12:20 < [anders]> https://www.snowcapenfc.fsnet.co.uk/blue_and_white_boy_31-8-03.aJPG.JPG <- the boy 12:20 < [anders]> https://www.snowcapenfc.fsnet.co.uk/minxski_and_arwin_31-8-03.aJPG.JPG <- the two girls 12:23 < blindcoder> reminds me of the time my dogs had puppies... ^^ 12:23 < [anders]> heheh 12:23 < [anders]> they are sooo cute.. 12:24 < blindcoder> they sure are ^^ 12:24 < [anders]> ^_^ 12:25 < [anders]> the g/f decided when we had arrived at the breeders that she wanted another kitten. The two we were getting wasn't enough.. And she is a dog person.. :) 12:27 < blindcoder> a dog person buying cats?! STONE HER! :) 12:31 < [anders]> heheh... She seems to have converted.. ;-) 12:32 < blindcoder> Well, I have a dislike of cats... mostly because my grandmas cat hated me... 12:32 < blindcoder> please note that this doesn't include catgirls in Anime :) 12:34 < [anders]> hah 12:34 * [anders] doesn't get on with dogs that well.. and cats have better personality to match computer hackers.. 12:35 < blindcoder> depends on the hacker 12:37 < [anders]> I suppose.. if one likes several hour long walks a day, dogs are excellent.. 12:37 < blindcoder> nah, I just let her out of the front door, she chases the "Leonberger" from next door around town and returns home for dinner :) 12:51 < [anders]> heh 13:54 < blindcoder> uh-oh, here they come 13:54 * blindcoder away for some time 14:04 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-204.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:18 -!- fake [~fake@pD9E4DEC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:18 -!- Pyro [~mike@ip228-62.ct.co.cr] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:18 < fake> kewl: System Bootstrap, Version 5.3.2(9) [vatran 9], RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) 14:18 < fake> Copyright (c) 1994 by cisco Systems, Inc. 14:18 < fake> C1000 processor with 8192 Kbytes of main memory 14:19 < fake> IOS (tm) 1000 Software (C1000-BNSY-M), Version 11.2(16), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) 14:19 < esden> hi all 14:19 < esden> hi fake 14:19 < fake> hi esden 14:19 < esden> greets from berlin ;) 14:19 * fake found a serial/rj45 cable in his trash 14:19 < fake> esden: greetz to rebecca! 14:19 < daja77> O_o 14:20 < daja77> hi esden 14:20 < daja77> hi fake 14:20 < fake> hi daja77! 14:20 < esden> fake: who? 14:20 * -> esden does not know rebecca ... 14:20 < daja77> rofl 14:20 < esden> hi daja77 14:20 < daja77> s/rebecca/regina .. 14:21 < fake> ah 14:21 < fake> yeah 14:21 < esden> regina is currently at school going on nerves of some nasty children ;) 14:21 < fake> regina.. *whistles* 14:21 < daja77> lol 14:21 < esden> but I will greet her when she is back 14:21 * -> esden currently at rxr place ;) 14:21 < daja77> happy hacking 14:22 * -> esden making traffic on rxr connection ;) 14:22 < daja77> a friend is someone who let you waste bandtwith ... 14:22 < daja77> or so 14:23 < fake> procon-gw>show clock 14:23 < fake> *01:05:57.952 mez Mon Mar 1 1993 14:23 < rxr> a1re 14:23 < fake> Ctrl+a+1 re ? 14:23 < fake> ;) 14:23 < rxr> ,) 14:23 < daja77> <- bringing hi car into garage 14:23 < daja77> his 14:24 < esden> rxr: you have a strange mimic 14:25 < blindcoder> hi esden 14:25 < esden> hi blindcoder !!! 14:26 < esden> (((( blindcoder )))) 14:26 < blindcoder> MEEP 14:26 < esden> (ofyi the quadbraces is a hug ;) ) 14:26 < blindcoder> that's me :) 14:26 < blindcoder> ehm... 14:26 * fake has fund playing around with his own little cisco ISDN router 14:26 < esden> thanks rxr for that info ;) 14:26 < fake> -d 14:26 * blindcoder hugs back 14:27 < esden> fake: bonze 14:27 < fake> esden: no, i got it the polish way ;) 14:27 < fake> (it's from a set for a customer) 14:27 * blindcoder has fun confusing Auditors with a dvorak-layout on a qwertz keyboard :D 14:28 < esden> fake: you pole !!! 14:29 < esden> blindcoder: sure it is ;) 14:34 < jsaw> re 14:34 < esden> re jsaw 14:35 < cytrinox> moin 14:35 < jsaw> hi esden 14:37 < esden> hi cytrinox 14:43 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-204.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 14:44 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-204.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:50 < mnemoc> re :) 14:52 < esden> cu all 15:01 * blindcoder going home 15:14 < mnemoc> curl is broken or just for me? 15:14 < fake> it's broken on mips, too 15:20 < mnemoc> dope :-\ zlib is installing it's headers on /include :\ 15:26 < mnemoc> /man, /doc, /include .... mmmm 15:31 < mnemoc> when prefix='', i think those dirs should be forced to be inside /usr 15:31 < mnemoc> opinions? 15:34 < fake> prefix='$root' ? 15:34 < fake> s,',", 15:37 < rolla> re 15:54 < rxr> mnemoc: yes - inside /usr ... 16:11 < owl> rehi 16:13 < mnemoc> wb happyowl!! 16:14 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 16:15 < mnemoc> wb happyblindcoder :) 16:15 < owl> hi mnemoc *kick* . hi blindcoder 16:47 -!- [anders] [~snafu@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has left #rocklinux ("Client exiting") 16:51 -!- link_ [~link_@line-82-215-zh2.tiscali.ch] has joined #rocklinux 16:52 < mnemoc> rxr: do you think a global $includedir, and --includedir=$includedir can make any troubles? 17:05 < rxr> mnemoc: I do not know - hm - I think this should work ... 17:05 < rxr> our detection will remove the options for packages that do not support this ... 17:06 < mnemoc> i'll send a patch right now :) 17:06 < rxr> ok 17:06 < mnemoc> my doubt is mainly related with include/linux 17:07 < rxr> mnemoc: we'll see ... 17:07 < mnemoc> :) 17:09 < mnemoc> did you know that there are 17 ways to write rene rebe in .desc files? 17:10 < fake> hi 17:10 < mnemoc> hi fake 17:10 < rxr> mnemoc: 17 ways it is written - or it is possible to write ? 17:10 < mnemoc> it is :) 17:12 < mnemoc> i'll patch .desc to use only one 'kind of' mantainer per mantainer 17:13 < mnemoc> grep -h "^\[M\]" package/*/*/*.desc | sort -u 17:13 < rxr> mnemoc: yes - just did this ... 17:13 < rxr> mnemoc: please do not do this for mine - I'll just correct this ... 17:14 < mnemoc> ok 17:14 < mnemoc> cliff is withour email address in 224 packages 17:14 -!- link_ [~link_@line-82-215-zh2.tiscali.ch] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:27 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.21.187.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:28 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.167.91.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:31 -!- link_ [~link_@line-77-103-zh1.tiscali.ch] has joined #rocklinux 17:31 < fake> hm... ios sure has its upsides.. 17:33 < rxr> mnemoc: corrections committed ... 17:41 * fake configuring, configuring and configuring like mad 17:42 -!- link_ [~link_@line-77-103-zh1.tiscali.ch] has quit ("Client exiting") 17:46 < rxr> fake: ? 17:46 < fake> rxr: some cisco 1000 series ISDN router 17:46 < fake> rxr: first contact with IOS ;) 17:46 < rxr> some? you have many of them? 17:47 < fake> rxr: some in the meaning of 'i am not even exactly sure which one' 17:55 * owl shot's someone by random (shot /dev/null) *argh* 17:55 * fake falls to the floor 17:55 < fake> *roechel* thanks.. 17:55 < owl> fake: *kick* you're not /dev/null and you're not working at "marktkauf ND" 17:56 < fake> u sure? 17:56 < owl> yes 17:57 < fake> muhahah. 17:57 < owl> hm? 17:57 < owl> aszlig: you here? 18:02 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD9530D8F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:31 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802D22.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:44 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M316P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:47 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M344P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 18:49 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p5080234F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:13 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M344P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Lost terminal") 19:26 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.184.146.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:26 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.167.91.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:41 < fake> SMP: ping 19:49 < rxr> re 19:52 < rxr> Freak: https://schillernet.dyndns.org/nv_drv.o 19:52 < rxr> could you copy it into your: 19:52 < rxr> /usr/X11/lib/modules/drivers/ 19:52 < rxr> change the XF86Config accordingly - and see what happens ? 19:57 -!- christian_ [~christian@pD9530777.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:59 < owl> HELP!!! my bf 19:59 < owl> x3 SINGS 20:02 < fake> what does he sing? 20:02 < owl> die aerzte -s chundersong 20:03 < fake> aeh, what was the text? i forgot... 20:04 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD9530D8F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20:04 < owl> https://www.lyriks.de/lyriks/display.php?id=d596627c76af626d7c56df7bdbbfac18 20:08 < SMP> fake: . 20:33 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-29-228.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:33 < holyolli> moin 20:34 < holyolli> rxr: are you there? 20:35 < owl> hi pilot 20:36 < blindcoder> *yawn* 20:36 < blindcoder> damn I'm so sleepy >_< 20:37 < owl> damn, i'm feeling less than shit now. when we begin to complain about fscking life 20:37 < owl> whatever. i'm off. bye 20:37 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has quit ("committed suicide") 20:39 * blindcoder -> bed 20:39 < fake> n8 20:45 < fake> ... 20:45 < fake> lag lag lag... lalala 20:48 < holyolli> hi fake...but not only you has some lag-problems.... 20:48 < holyolli> <-- has a lot of brainlag today... =) 20:48 * fake just experiencing strange network wierdness 20:49 < holyolli> fake: you saw some packet coming out of the wire and playing twister in front of you...? 20:49 < holyolli> if 'yes' is the anser: _no_ more drugs...! ;-) 20:49 < fake> holyolli: actually some packets played 'highway crossing frog' with the ac-cables 20:50 < holyolli> *lol* 20:50 < fake> now they're all doomed 20:50 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD95221DE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:50 < fake> *brrzzzzt* 20:50 < holyolli> hehe 20:54 < fake> .oO( one should try to keep his ip addresses unique >_<) 20:55 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD9530777.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:56 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA6CE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:10 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-29-228.reverse.qsc.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:14 -!- christian_ [~christian@pD9530777.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:21 < rxr> mnemoc: ? 21:22 < [CTG]Wibra> rxr: i don't remember where we left of yesterday 21:23 < rxr> that I would try to merge this even newer driver for a test ... 21:23 < rxr> but this merge needs some hours due to many conflicts ... 21:27 < tcr> moin all 21:28 < tcr> Oh, and away again (taking a shower) 21:29 < [CTG]Wibra> ic 21:36 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: maybe I have the time to merge this driver this night ... 21:38 < Freak> rxr: YAY! its wuh-kin! 21:45 < Freak> whats the default desktop, kde, huh? 21:48 < Freak> hum where's the default being saved? because changing it back to kde in stone doesn't seem to work 21:50 < Freak> what's ~/.hcwd? 21:50 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@p3EE1E214.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:52 < fake> hardcore chicks (gone) wild daemon 21:52 < Freak> mmhh.. 21:52 < fake> Freak: logout && login 21:52 < fake> it's a /etc/profile variable (WINDOWMANAGER), which get's re-evaluated on login 21:52 < fake> or do a '. /etc/profile' 21:53 < Freak> whee, relogin actually worked 21:53 < Freak> ah ic 21:53 * fake sometims know what he's talking about 21:53 < fake> >_< 21:53 < Freak> ;F 21:55 < rxr> Freak: the nv driver works ? 21:55 < fake> any suggestions: i need a cgi/php/whatever to control a dial/hangup and uptime of a isdn connection (linux) 21:56 < fake> via webserver 21:57 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD9530777.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 21:59 < Freak> rxr: yup. 22:07 < tcr> re all 22:10 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p3EE1E283.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:11 < Freak> hum.. getting no audio at all w/ mplayer.. 22:11 < Freak> yes I tried all -ao options 22:13 < Freak> hum 22:13 < Freak> setting gnome as default makes X not start up 22:14 < tcr> Oh. I think we did have that already 22:14 < Freak> rxr? 22:15 < tcr> Freak, doesn't audio work generally? 22:15 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-204.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 22:15 < Freak> and waimea makes X start up and change the cursor to a pointer. then nothing happens. 22:15 < Freak> tcr: yes it does 22:15 < Freak> I thought maybe kde used up the audio driver 22:16 < Freak> so I wanted to change to gnome ... :) 22:17 < Freak> ah now its working 22:17 < tcr> fucking english and its damn confirmation! "yes it does" as in "yes, audio does completely not work"? 22:17 < Freak> i mean the sound 22:17 < Freak> i started wmaker again 22:19 < Freak> hum well 22:19 < Freak> dvd playback isn't noticeably faster. 22:20 < Freak> it's like.. still stuttering. 22:31 < rxr> yes - re 22:35 < Freak> so how do I rebuild it? 22:35 < rxr> hm - take a look to the handbook 22:36 < Freak> =) 22:36 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/products/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbookpa2.html#x48-89000II 22:39 < Freak> tnx I will. 22:43 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA6CE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("gn8 all") 23:03 < SMP> what the hell does glibc use libgd for? 23:04 < fake> funky gfx effects? 23:04 < fake> ;-) 23:06 < SMP> fake: https://home.arcor.de/armin.diehl/#i4lmon 23:07 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:07 < owl> remoin 23:08 < fake> SMP: too late. already finished own implementation ;) 23:08 < fake> SMP: but thanks. 23:15 < fake> SMP: 901 byte shellscript did the job. 23:18 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw 23:18 < jsaw> re 23:18 < owl> wb jsaw 23:18 < jsaw> hi owl 23:23 < rxr> hi jsaw 23:23 < jsaw> hi rxr 23:24 < rxr> SMP: malloc visualizatio IIRC 23:34 < owl> https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,265691,00.html << ouch 23:34 * daja77 sneakes in silently 23:35 < fake> hi daja 23:35 < daja77> hi fake 23:35 < daja77> car is in repair now ;-) 23:36 < owl> hi daja77 23:36 < fake> good... 23:36 < daja77> huhu owl 23:37 * fake wants to scream 23:37 < daja77> do it! 23:38 < owl> .oO(take something and "werf es" agains the wall or so) 23:38 < fake> daja77: no, my brother is asleep, working late shift at audi, don't wanna wake him up 23:38 < fake> i have a much better idea... 23:38 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD95221DE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 23:38 < daja77> ah yes, audi, remembering that 23:39 < fake> my brother = lazy student not used to work hard 23:39 < daja77> <- lazy student 23:39 < owl> hehe. lazy student = normal student 23:39 < fake> <- lazy nothing 23:40 < owl> <- lazy null 23:40 < daja77> <- normal student 23:41 < fake> null has no attributes. so owl can't be lazy... 23:43 < owl> oh sure iam lazy... lying about 2 1/2 weeks in my bed, just switching on/off the PCs/notebooks, sleeping, going to toilette, eating, sleeping, bf comes, sleeping, chatting/writings mails... -> lazy 23:43 * fake nrn 23:44 < daja77> huh? 23:44 < owl> s/nrn/brb 23:44 < daja77> now reading news? 23:45 < fake> re 23:59 -!- Pyro [~mike@ip228-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 23:59 < Pyro> re. 23:59 < daja77> wb Pyro 23:59 < Pyro> thanks daja77 23:59 < owl> hi Pyro 23:59 < Pyro> hi owlita --- Log closed Tue Sep 16 00:00:45 2003