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--- Log opened Fre Nov 14 00:00:00 2003 --- Day changed Fre Nov 14 2003 00:00 < A-Tui> mnemoc: that's a good globalization 00:00 < xnp> globalization ?, using condons ? jeje 00:00 < A-Tui> XD 00:00 < A-Tui> secure sex! 00:01 < mnemoc> when she realize you want to lear it she will want to teach you what she knows ;) 00:02 < A-Tui> daja77: latin girls are very "fogosas" (i don't know an english word) 00:02 < daja77> italian != latin 00:02 < A-Tui> daja77: why? 00:02 < mnemoc> nope, italian ARE latin 00:02 < daja77> ok good 00:03 < daja77> i can live with that ^^ 00:03 < A-Tui> yes, italian people and spanish people are very similar 00:03 < mnemoc> latins have two family names :) 00:03 < xnp> daja77 easy, they are wrong ! 00:03 < daja77> huh? 00:03 < xnp> daja77 we know the truth 00:03 < A-Tui> :) 00:03 < xnp> italian != latin 00:04 < daja77> nobody said latinos btw 00:04 < A-Tui> mmmmm well perhaps could be better "latinos" 00:04 < mnemoc> btw, fogoso=feuring 00:04 < xnp> latin people != latinos ? 00:04 < daja77> mnemoc: feurig? 00:05 < mnemoc> yes 00:05 < A-Tui> xnp: then ok, i make a bad translate 00:05 < mnemoc> s/n// 00:05 < daja77> .oO haven't produced so much traffic lately ;-) 00:06 < daja77> hey and killed it too 00:06 < daja77> ok i am fine 00:06 < daja77> off to bed now 00:06 < daja77> cu 00:06 < A-Tui> bye 00:07 -!- xnp is now known as xnp_eating_his_s 00:07 < daja77> jose: have fun 00:07 < mnemoc> gn8 daja77 00:09 < xnp_eating_his_s> daja77 who is jose ? 00:09 < daja77> you 00:09 < daja77> n8 00:09 < xnp_eating_his_s> please to meet me!, jeje, gn8 00:09 -!- xnp_eating_his_s is now known as xnp_exposed 00:10 < mnemoc> xnp: what were you eating? s? 00:11 < xnp_exposed> mnemoc s...elf 00:11 < xnp_exposed> didn't fit 00:13 < rxr> ok - n8 all - cu 00:13 < A-Tui> bye rxr 00:14 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1CB59.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit "leaving" 00:16 < mnemoc> bye rxr 00:32 -!- xnp_exposed is now known as xnp 01:10 -!- xnp [~jose@196.40.45.30] has quit "BitchX: the IRC client with hair on its balls" 01:30 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD9005713.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:37 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD90056D0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 02:36 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: cytrinox 02:39 -!- Netsplit over, joins: cytrinox 02:42 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit "I like core dumps" 02:45 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M327P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 02:51 -!- nookie [~nookie@M368P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 06:08 < AOU> moin 06:08 < true> AOU: moin 06:08 < AOU> hi true :) 07:03 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-152.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:11 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-177.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 07:29 -!- scoopex [~marc@td9091a42.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:53 -!- MadHunter [~MadHunter@wbar1.sea1-4-5-192-055.sea1.elnk.dsl.genuity.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:54 < MadHunter> Hello 07:54 -!- MadHunter [~MadHunter@wbar1.sea1-4-5-192-055.sea1.elnk.dsl.genuity.net] has quit "Okay, I've had enough!" 08:02 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.117.251.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit Remote closed the connection 08:20 -!- MadHunter [~MadHunter@wbar1.sea1-4-5-192-055.sea1.elnk.dsl.genuity.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:20 < MadHunter> Hello! 08:20 < AOU> hi MadHunter 08:20 < MadHunter> How's it going? 08:22 < MadHunter> I've got a question about dRock if anyone can field a simple one... 08:22 < MadHunter> Hello! 08:22 < MadHunter> oops... sorry about that other Hello 08:22 < MadHunter> was an accident, not trying to be obnoxious 08:24 < MadHunter> So my system has a Kingston NIC with the LNETX110 chipset (tulip). When running the install, it asks if i'd like to install a kernel network driver, but I can't find anything to match... what should I do? 08:26 < MadHunter> Would it be best to skip networking until the install is complete, and then go from there? 08:27 < MadHunter> ugh... so many accounts on, but not a single person available to help 08:28 < kasc> MadHunter: if you dont urgently need networking for installing, just skip that step and rebuild your kernel after the installation with your driver 08:29 < MadHunter> Okay, I figured that's what I'd do, unless there was a driver name that was compatible that I just wasn't seeing in the install 08:29 < MadHunter> kasc: I appreciate the answer! 08:30 < kasc> i'm not into what special NICs are supported by what driver, but if you already had a linux running why not have a look at that linux and how the driver is called? 08:32 < MadHunter> It's the tulip driver called by the kernel itself (built-in). I was just surprised to not see tulip listed in the pre-compiled options on install. I thought it was one of the more common chipsets. 08:38 -!- MadHunter is now known as MadHunterAFK 08:38 -!- MadHunterAFK [~MadHunter@wbar1.sea1-4-5-192-055.sea1.elnk.dsl.genuity.net] has left #rocklinux ["Fine then... I'm done!"] 08:58 -!- scoopex [~marc@td9091a42.adsl.terralink.de] has quit Remote closed the connection 09:24 -!- Baldzius [~user@212.122.72.33] has joined #rocklinux 09:24 < Baldzius> morning 09:25 < rxr> re 09:26 < rxr> moin Baldzius 09:26 < Baldzius> hi 09:26 < Baldzius> i'm having a little problem 09:27 < Baldzius> when i run create-iso script it stops after "Multiple boot options found!" 09:27 < Baldzius> what does it means? 09:27 < Baldzius> is it done i mean iso image is created 09:27 < Baldzius> but i can't find it :) 09:28 < Baldzius> i did everything as in handbook 09:31 < daja77> moin 10:02 < rxr> Baldzius: what is the create-iso command line you use ? 10:03 < rxr> I think this current first implementation does only handle one bootable cd - so id you try to burn multiple builds with install code this will not yet work 10:03 < rxr> (theoretically on the todo list before 2.0) 10:07 < rxr> argh- the next subversion release will have a database scheme change again 10:07 < rxr> this means a complete dump reload cycle - damn shit 10:09 < rxr> hm - 0.33 has again speed improvements: 10:09 < rxr> * much faster checkouts and updates, over both svn:// and https:// (#1429) 10:10 < Baldzius> rxr i did exactly a in handbook 10:10 < Baldzius> Create-ISO mycdset bootdisk system 10:11 < Baldzius> in isofs.txt there are two tags : BOOT & BOOTx 10:12 < Baldzius> should i have to delete second one? 10:13 < rxr> hm - no 10:14 < rxr> what target did you selected for the two configs 10:14 < rxr> the one ie really a install target and the second a generic or desktop ? 10:14 < Baldzius> router 10:15 < rxr> ah! - the router is bootable stand-alone 10:16 < rxr> you do not need the install target for it 10:16 < rxr> so just do Create-ISO mycdset system 10:16 < Baldzius> tnx 10:16 < Baldzius> i 'm big looser :) 10:16 < rxr> later (hopefully in some days) the Create-ISO script will also spread multiple boot code segments over different CDs ... 10:17 < rxr> hm - my -rc3 install target finished over night - since when does my server only need 6 hours for the whole install target - strange ... 10:18 < Baldzius> one more, can i control which packages should be included if i select generic target 10:19 < Baldzius> or desktop 10:19 < rxr> yes - select expert options and then you get a entry labelled "Custom package selection" 10:19 < rxr> where you can add your patterns to be mattched for package inclusiong or exclusion 10:19 * rxr off to breakfast ... 10:19 < Baldzius> oh 10:19 < Baldzius> tnx very much 10:25 < Baldzius> drat in which package is mkisofs ? :) 10:26 < clifford> cdrtools 10:26 -!- scythe_ [firewall-u@cerberus.dunaferr.hu] has joined #rocklinux 10:27 < Baldzius> tnx :) 10:27 < scythe_> hi 10:27 < clifford> hi. 10:27 < AOU> hi clifford 10:28 < clifford> hi AOU. 10:28 < Baldzius> yeah! i have my first iso :) 10:29 < Baldzius> so now i a noob not looser :) 10:29 < Baldzius> i guess 10:29 < clifford> noob? what's that? 10:30 < Baldzius> AFAIK noob is novice beginer 10:31 < clifford> oh. I think it's a sign of getting old to not beeing up-to-date with geek vobabulary.. ;-) 10:33 < Baldzius> maybe, not sure now :) 10:34 < AOU> aehmm... ./scripts/Emerge-Package broken? 10:34 < AOU> root@ancoras:/mnt/hda6/rock-build# ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -dep gnucash 10:34 < AOU> Usage: mktemp [-q] [-u] template 10:34 < AOU> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg: line 211: $tmp: ambiguous redirect 10:35 < AOU> and ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg gnucash --> Packages scheduled to build: gnucash 10:35 < AOU> INFO: Found cached mirror URL in download/Mirror: 10:35 < AOU> INFO: https://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/os/unix/linux/ROCKlinux/ROCK-2.0 10:35 < AOU> INFO: To force a new mirror auto-detection, remove download/Mirror. 10:35 < AOU> Processing pattern download/*/gnucash/* ... 10:35 < AOU> Matched: download/stefanp/gnucash/gnucash-1.8.7.tar.gz 10:35 -!- nookie [~nookie@M271P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 10:36 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M327P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) 10:38 < Baldzius> clifford, is there any plans for distcc support in rock linux as in todo list there is nothing about it 10:39 < Baldzius> as i'm looking at my first iso and it is 8MB size but it tooked 1 good day to compile 10:40 < rxr> hi clifford 10:41 < clifford> hi rxr. 10:41 < Baldzius> i really enjoy using distcc with gentoo, damn it is so fast compiling across network 10:42 < clifford> Baldzius: distcc only makes sense with "make -j", which is broken for many (most big) packages. 10:42 < AOU> btw, what's the difference, between "Emerge-Pkg -dep package" and "Emerge-Pkg package"? 10:42 < AOU> and: why doesn't it resolv deps? 10:42 < AOU> +e 10:42 < clifford> We _might_ use distcc (or something simmilar) for improving native builds on slow archs: 10:43 < clifford> do everything native - except actual compile which is deligated using distcc(?) to a cross-compiler on a faster machine. 10:44 < clifford> (SuSE is using this aproach for slow archs in their build system) 10:46 < clifford> AOU: Emerge-Pkg -dep should resolve dependencies. (but make a -dry-run first ;-) 10:47 < clifford> Baldzius: you can make a cluster build using ROCK, btw. 10:47 < Baldzius> yeah i know :) 10:48 < AOU> root@ancoras:/mnt/hda6/rock-build# ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -dry-run gnucash 10:48 < AOU> Packages scheduled to build: gnucash 10:48 < AOU> hrmpf. "dependencies" 10:49 < clifford> And "./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -dep -dry-run gnucash" ? 10:50 < AOU> root@ancoras:/mnt/hda6/rock-build# ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -dep -dry-run gnucash 10:50 < AOU> Packages scheduled to build: gnucash 10:52 < clifford> https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk/package/stefanp/gnucash/gnucash.cache 10:52 < clifford> the package faild in the last reference build and so has no dependency information. 10:52 < AOU> hmm. k. thx 10:55 < Baldzius> btw one more question, let's say i want to do a system update, but i'd like to exclude some packages like kernel and other packages 10:55 < Baldzius> in gentoo portage there is action inject 10:56 < clifford> AOU: What does ./scripts/Check-System output on your system, btw. 10:56 < Baldzius> when package is included manually and package manager tniks that it's installed 10:56 < Baldzius> is it possible in rock? 10:56 < AOU> root@ancoras:/mnt/hda6/rock-build# ./scripts/Check-System 10:56 < AOU> root@ancoras:/mnt/hda6/rock-build# 10:57 < Baldzius> it makes list of packages which are out of date 10:57 < clifford> .. because I've seen an mktemp error in the quoted messages above ... 10:58 < AOU> hmm... i have mktemp 1.5... used the one from rock-trunk... 10:58 < AOU> ADD: building on slackware-9.1 (with devfs) 10:58 < clifford> [10:33] <AOU> Usage: mktemp [-q] [-u] template 10:59 < AOU> yeah... don't have it again...don't know why. 10:59 < clifford> hmm.. funny. 10:59 < AOU> yeah. completely 11:05 < clifford> rxr: https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/ .. I have arabic letters on that page using konqueror 3.1.3 11:05 < AOU> *lol* 11:05 < AOU> kewl feature 11:10 < AOU> haeh? gtk+ doesn't want to build??? 11:10 < AOU> with an error complaining about gdk-pixbuf (which is installed) 11:15 < netrunne1> moin 11:16 < AOU> hi netrunne1 11:16 -!- You're now known as netrunner 11:16 < daja77> clifford: huh? 11:19 < clifford> daja77: huh what? 11:21 < daja77> have you selected the wrong charset perhaps? 11:21 < clifford> daja77: it's the only page where that is happening. 11:21 < daja77> strange 11:22 < clifford> In file included from /opt/qt31/include/qobject.h:45, 11:22 < clifford> from ../../kdecore/kconfigbase.h:28, 11:22 < clifford> from ../../kdecore/kconfig.h:29, 11:22 < clifford> from kjs_navigator.cpp:26: 11:22 < clifford> /opt/qt31/include/qevent.h:388: internal error: Segmentation fault 11:22 < clifford> Please submit a full bug report, 11:22 < clifford> with preprocessed source if appropriate. 11:22 < clifford> See <URL:https://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html> for instructions. 11:22 < clifford> *grml* I _love_ kdelibs. The ulimate ICE testbench ... 11:24 < daja77> hehe should happen with that page too https://www.aljazeera.net/ 11:25 < daja77> the arabic rendering is quite good in konqueror 11:25 < clifford> yup. 11:25 < daja77> better than in mozilla 11:26 < daja77> have you seen that photo 11:28 < AOU> fsck... gnome* is quite broken in current HEAD? 11:28 -!- Baldzius [~user@212.122.72.33] has quit 11:29 < daja77> not only there ... 11:29 < AOU> hrmpf. 11:31 < AOU> since when it is broken like hell? and when are there fixes available? 11:32 < daja77> read the list, or subscribe for commit mails then you'll know more 11:32 < rxr> moin daja77 11:32 < scythe_> i think there's some problem with 2-gcc2. It requires perl, which will only be built at stage 3... 11:33 * netrunner remembered that he wanted to download mp3streams at the uni 11:33 < daja77> hi rxr :) 11:34 < clifford> scythe_: afair perl is used in the doc creation only which should be turned of for gcc in this stage (as said: afair) 11:34 < netrunner> future now: https://futurezone.orf.at/futurezone.orf?read=detail&id=198614&tmp=30524 11:36 < scythe_> thx, i'll look after this (is it a bug or is it a feature?) 11:36 < daja77> netrunner: yeah 11:48 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4F9CB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:48 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F8E8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Nick collision from services. 11:48 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 11:50 < AOU> hi ghost-of-blindcoder 11:53 < scythe_> errrm clifford, how do i turn off doc creation for gcc? 11:53 < mnemoc> rxr: bind and iptables were 'updated' keeping the same version but removing checksum, and modutils was updated without fixing it's patch for dietlibc, i.e. breaking bootdisk 11:54 < mnemoc> hi all 11:55 < mnemoc> clifford: hi, can you give a definitive opinion about my gcc clean up patch? 11:57 < scythe_> gcc2 calls <buildroot>/usr/bin/autoheader, which is a perl script. Why dont the pseudo cross compiler includes a perl interpreter? 12:01 < clifford> s/Use Stack-Smashing Protector when available/Use Stack-Smashing Protector WHEN AVAILABLE/ 12:01 < clifford> and simplyfy the var_append code for -fstack-protector: 12:01 < mnemoc> rxr: errata: version of bind was updated but not to the last (i send a patch a week ago), and iptables was updated... both without a damn checksum making stupid conflicts here 12:02 < clifford> just: if "$ROCKCFG_PKG_GCC_STACKPRO" 12:02 < clifford> = 1 ] ; then var_append GCC2_WRAPPER_INSERT " " "-fstack-protector"; var_append GCC3_WRAPPER_INSERT " " "-fstack-protector"; fi 12:02 < mnemoc> if i hide the questiong when default gcc doesn't have the protector on it's desc_D? 12:02 < mnemoc> that's clean 12:02 < clifford> there is no sense in only appending it for the default compile and not using it if a package - for whatever reason - is using another gcc. 12:02 < clifford> the "default compiler" is just a hint for the package build system. 12:03 < mnemoc> all gccs are always patched to support it 12:03 < clifford> every package is free to use whatever compiler the package wants to use. 12:03 < mnemoc> uhm 12:03 < clifford> but we don't know about future gcc's. 12:03 < clifford> and e.g. gccx isn't. 12:04 < mnemoc> i just think about gccx 12:04 < rxr> mnemoc: sorry about the conflicts 12:04 < mnemoc> the problem is the 'when available', or the 'use it with any gcc' 12:05 < mnemoc> ? 12:05 < AOU> hmmm... 'pwdgen' ??? or so??? someone knows the link for it? 12:05 < mnemoc> modutils thing is bad 12:05 < rxr> I take a look into the patch 12:05 < rxr> or have you already rediffed it ? 12:06 < mnemoc> its in my todo but i can't do it today 12:06 < clifford> "Use GCC Stack-Smashing Protector when available" and add a more detailed explenation to the help text? 12:06 < rxr> ok 12:07 < rxr> ^- to mnemoc 12:07 < mnemoc> clifford: ok 12:08 < clifford> AOU: https://sourceforge.net/projects/pwgen/ 12:08 < mnemoc> rxr: can you? if not, should be reverted until rc3 is tagged 12:12 < mnemoc> gotta go :( ... i'll fix ssp patch and try again for rc4 :) 12:12 < mnemoc> good luck 12:13 < mnemoc> bye rxr, clifford, AOU 12:13 < rxr> mnemoc: I just test it 12:13 < mnemoc> can be easily adapted? 12:15 < mnemoc> mm.. this.GoWork( now ); 12:16 < AOU> clifford: thx 12:39 * AOU shots the next availabe gnome-developer 12:41 < rxr> AOU: why do you try to use gnome ... 12:42 < AOU> rxr: not try using gnome, just need some libraries etc. for running gnucash 12:42 < AOU> and i guess this could be called "self-punishing" *grml* 12:53 < AOU> someone knows this error: ? 12:53 < AOU> gal-0.22/gal/e-table/e-table-field-chooser.c:79: undefined reference to `glade_gnome_init' 12:58 < daja77> seems that libglade is missing 12:59 < AOU> yeah... thx... installed glade, but not libglade... *cough* 13:02 < AOU> gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I.. -I../liboaf -I../liboaf -DOAF_LOCALEDIR=\"/opt/gnome//share/locale\" -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/include/orbit-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -DVERSION=\"0.6.10\" -g -O2 -c oaf-stubs.c -fPIC -DPIC -o oaf-stubs.o 13:02 < AOU> gcc: oaf-stubs.c: No such file or directory 13:02 < AOU> gcc: no input files 13:02 < AOU> make[1]: *** [oaf-stubs.lo] Error 1 13:02 < AOU> make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/oaf-0.6.10/liboaf' 13:02 < AOU> make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 13:02 < AOU> and this one? 13:02 < AOU> this is my "beloved" "i will never find something fitting for this error at google.com"-error-crap 13:07 < daja77> you need liboaf 13:07 < daja77> and all the other gnome crap for gnucash 13:09 < AOU> liboaf? 13:09 < daja77> yep 13:09 < AOU> thouth oaf-0.6.10 would be fine? 13:10 < daja77> dunno maybe there is a devel package for that 13:10 < AOU> hmmmm. the problem is, that i can't compilie it... because of the above error... 13:29 -!- Aard [~bwachter@aardchat.net] has quit "Lost terminal" 13:29 < rxr> AOU: why don't you use some ROCK infrastructure for this? 13:30 < rxr> asking what to do next here should get boring over the time ... 13:30 < daja77> s/should get/is 13:31 -!- Aard [~bwachter@aardchat.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:36 < AOU> rxr: because the "rock infrastructure" just causes .err-files 13:41 < daja77> not here 13:42 < AOU> daja77: well doing what exactly? a "./scripts/Emerge-Pkg oaf10" causes an error 13:52 < AOU> <- afk 14:04 < scythe_> what does this "found shared files with other packages" build error means? 14:05 < daja77> it means that another packages created files with the same names 14:06 < scythe_> 00-dirtree created the same as 3-ncurses? And y it is a fatal (*.err) build error? 14:06 < daja77> O_o 14:09 < scythe_> i just love these informative (aberations) abrevations... 14:09 < scythe_> how can i avoid this error? 14:10 < daja77> which rev? 14:11 < scythe_> -i meant for an other prob im working on parellel> os390... 14:11 < scythe_> so do u know a way avoiding this shared files build error? 14:21 < scythe_> so any solution? 14:23 < daja77> which rev? 14:25 < scythe_> SMP is not for Simultan Multi Processing, it is for System Modification Program - eg a binary patch 14:26 < scythe_> i didnt understand firstly in the documentation 14:30 < scythe_> now *every* package build fails because of shared files with 00-dirtree, why the heck? 14:31 < daja77> argh which rev has this error? 14:32 -!- elon [~moep2k@pD9E768D0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:32 < scythe_> sorrrrrrry, i thought u were asking bout the abrevation .... ;-))) 14:33 < scythe_> 1701 14:33 < daja77> could you please update and restart agian 14:34 < scythe_> the whole build? 14:34 < daja77> yes 14:34 < scythe_> well, it wont took more than 2 days 14:34 < scythe_> but ok 14:34 < daja77> if you are in stage 3 now, you haven't lost much 14:35 < scythe_> maybe, but it took me some time to hack gcc and glibc working 14:36 < scythe_> and clifford also pointed a bug in flwrapper for me 14:36 < daja77> hmmmm 14:36 < scythe_> uh, im doing a port 14:38 < scythe_> so it can be my fault, not the old rev's 14:38 < scythe_> the error said /vat/tmp was the problematic shared file 14:39 < scythe_> /var/tmp - i'll learn to type 15:20 < daja77> emerging apache and subversion always links against the wrong bdb, d'oh 15:36 < rolla> re 15:36 < daja77> hi rolla 15:37 < daja77> root@atuin:/scratch/rc2/trunk# svn up 15:37 < daja77> Speicherzugriffsfehler (core dumped) 15:37 < rolla> the world is stupied 15:37 < daja77> yep 15:38 < rolla> https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3269597.stm 15:44 < daja77> so what 16:03 < rolla> you can't say anything bad about jewish people without being a anti-semtic 16:03 < rolla> it is crap 16:03 < rolla> they have done bad things in the past just like every other group 16:03 < daja77> well that was not the point here 16:04 < daja77> he said crap, lots of it, my heart doesn't bleed for him 16:04 < rolla> was it more than they quoted him saying? 16:05 < daja77> yes 16:05 < rolla> okay what they quote him saying is fact 16:07 < daja77> he said the jewish are a people of perpetrators 16:08 < rolla> well in some way he can be prove right 16:08 < rolla> it all depends on how you look at it 16:08 < rolla> ask a person from the west bank and they will agree with him 16:08 < daja77> would you like the americans as a people of killers or sth like that 16:09 < daja77> americans bein called even 16:09 < rolla> it can be said 16:09 < daja77> it is stupid putting this on the peoples level 16:09 < rolla> the american idians where hunted down and kill by us 16:10 < rolla> we pushed them onto small areas where they die 16:10 < daja77> but they are part of your people now as well 16:10 < rolla> in some ways yes in others no 16:10 < rolla> they now get special treatment 16:11 < rolla> just as people that came from slave want to be treated special due to there past 16:12 < rolla> daja77: you take anything to an extreme and it can be bad 16:12 < daja77> btw if you want to read what he said https://www.heise.de/tp/deutsch/inhalt/co/15981/1.html 16:13 < rolla> danke 16:13 < rxr> re 16:13 < rolla> re rxr 16:14 < daja77> wb rxr 16:17 < daja77> rxr: /me now trying to do a minimal build with apache + subversion to see if the linkage errors persist in the gems 16:25 < rxr> ok 16:26 < daja77> when they work i could upload the gems 16:54 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.189.228.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:55 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 16:58 < daja77> blindcoder: hi i guess lvp is still too big ;-) 16:58 * daja77 now burning with too small movies 16:59 < blindcoder> daja77: that's why I wrote "for DVDs" :D 17:01 < blindcoder> daja77: want to see a "funny" error message? 17:05 < daja77> hehe oki 17:05 < daja77> well videos are small enough to fit on cdrom 17:05 < blindcoder> creating libglade-scan 17:05 < blindcoder> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: 17:05 < blindcoder> Scan failed 17:06 < blindcoder> 5-libglade14 fairs with this during a Build-Target >_< 17:06 < blindcoder> fails* 17:06 < daja77> yeah saw that yesterday 17:24 < daja77> cool now two laptops playing videos having lvp cds in it 17:31 * daja77 off to clug meeting 17:36 < rxr> blindcoder: the regression tester now knows about this kind of error type: 17:36 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/service/regtest/reference/2003-11-12/ 17:36 < rxr> big and red ... 17:40 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD9005713.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 17:41 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: _spectre_ 17:41 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9005713.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:41 -!- Netsplit over, joins: _spectre_ 17:42 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rxr 17:42 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rxr 17:48 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: [anders], rolla, daja77, clifford, hannes, cytrinox, cchamilt, trekkie3k, AOU, nookie, (+13 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 17:48 < netrunner> rxr: desktop includes vsftpd but not xinetd. vsftpd needs some inetd. 17:50 -!- Netsplit over, joins: snyke, Aard, rxr, _spectre_, trekkie3k, cytrinox, elon, blindcoder, nookie, scythe_ (+13 more) 17:53 -!- elon_ [~moep2k@pD9E768D0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:53 -!- elon_ [~moep2k@pD9E768D0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Client Quit 17:56 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Aard, snyke 17:56 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Aard, snyke 18:20 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-152.arcor-ip.net] has quit "Client exiting" 18:23 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-152.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:35 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M371P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 18:39 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M371P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit Client Quit 18:40 < blindcoder> rxr: nice. I'm going to try to debug that after dinner 18:43 < rxr> hehe 18:51 -!- nookie [~nookie@M271P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 19:20 -!- elon [~moep2k@pD9E768D0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit "sys" 19:22 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA9EE6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:28 < rxr> hi tcr 19:28 < tcr> moin rxr et al 19:28 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@cm150.gamma147.maxonline.com.sg] has quit Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 20:17 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802D28.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:17 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 20:17 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [] [Sun Aug 3 22:11:35 2003] 20:17 [Users #rocklinux] 20:17 [ [anders] ] [ blindcoder] [ fake ] [ Nebukadneza] [ scythe_ ] [ true] 20:17 [ _spectre_] [ clifford ] [ hannes ] [ netrunne1 ] [ SMP ] 20:17 [ Aard ] [ cytrinox ] [ kasc ] [ netrunner ] [ snyke ] 20:17 [ AOU ] [ daja77 ] [ mistik1] [ rolla ] [ tcr ] 20:17 [ aszlig ] [ esden ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] [ trekkie3k] 20:17 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 26 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 26 normal] 20:17 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug 3 22:11:35 2003 20:17 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:17 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 11 secs 20:24 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p5080222F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 20:36 < rxr> hi fake 20:41 < fake> hi rene 20:59 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E79710.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:05 -!- You're now known as netrunner 21:09 < netrunner> is the standard 75 chars linewidth including newline? 21:12 < fake> usually printable characters 21:14 < rxr> hi martin_ 21:16 < netrunner> fake: ah, ok. 21:22 < martin_> hi rxr 21:24 < rxr> martin_: how is your gtk*buttons* package doing? 21:31 < rxr> hm - somewhere ROCK Linux must be in the news 21:31 < rxr> my http traffic increased extremely three days ago ... 21:33 < rxr> 50MB / day 21:33 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA9EE6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 21:35 < martin_> rxr: Aehm, I have not time for it. And ... there are all infos for create packages in the handbook? 21:35 < rxr> the basics, yes 21:35 < rxr> it is really really easy - if it compiles by the usual configure ; make ; make install cycle 21:35 < rxr> you only need some ascii tags 21:36 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/products/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbookch18.html 21:39 < martin_> ahh, okay. I'll read it. But I have not real time. But I'll test it. 21:44 < rxr> no real time? 21:44 < rxr> why are you so busy? 21:45 < netrunner> martin_: ask daja77, he has to do with real time patches afaik ;) 21:45 * netrunner notices his build server can encode tracks faster than ripping them. 21:48 < martin_> I dont' know ... Hmmm, Thursday is the big Uni-Party (we must go shopping) and Tuesday a DSY-Test. And GST and and and ... 21:49 < rxr> do we have tests in GST? 21:49 < rxr> or just the usual learning ? 21:49 < rxr> btw will you attend the demo tomorrow at the "Brandenburger Tor"? 21:50 < martin_> rxr: lerning, but this is enough for me 21:50 < martin_> Hmmm, it's the TU Demo? 21:51 < rxr> nope it is _the big_ demo 21:51 < rxr> I think of all uni's - but I'm against further reductoins in the "bildungsbereich" - so I attend whoever organized it ... 21:53 < martin_> rxr: Die TU-Berlin wird aufgrund eines Beschlusses der Vollversammlung vom 5.11.2003 bestreikt. Informationen zum Streik, wo und wann die n?chste Aktion stattfindet und wie du mitmachen kannst, .... 21:54 < martin_> rxr: It's a TU problem. Today. We will see ... 21:54 < rxr> aeh? what is your last sentence about? 21:55 < martin_> Hmmm, but it's possible, to become a "Streiksemester" ... 21:55 < rxr> I do not support some kind of wired "Streik" - although some actions are quite funny 21:56 < rxr> it is not a tu problem - it is a problem for all universities 21:56 < rxr> and altugh the tfh is not directly affect in this case - we have been infected in the past and will in the future 21:57 < rxr> so supporting such a big movement currently will contribute to showing the politicans our mind 21:58 < rxr> or do you plan a 266 people demo when the tfh will get less money next year and the unis are not affected next year? ... 21:58 < martin_> rxr: auf der morgigen Demo geht es aber speziell um die TU, da die FU und HU meinten, die TU habe mehr geld und man solle ohr erst mal Geld weggnehmen ... 22:00 < rxr> Große Soli-Demo 22:00 < rxr> Treffpunkt: Brandenburger Tor Start: 13.00 Uhr Ziel: Rotes Rathaus Gegen Kürzungen im Bildungs- und Sozialbereich. Wir protestieren gegen Studiengebühren und Studienkonten. 22:00 < rxr> who says this is just for the tu? 22:01 < rxr> and if your words (where are they from?) are the final words from the fu and hu people this is really really unsozial 22:01 < rxr> should the tu say hey now the hu gets most money their heap can be reduced this year? This does not make sense ...+ 22:01 < martin_> rxr: Hmmm, the tfh AStA say. Okay, I must read ... 22:02 < rxr> haha - the tfh asta - oh my ... 22:04 < fake> byq 22:04 -!- fake [~fake@f4k3.net] has quit "Read error: 1.732050808 (Excessive square root of 3)" 22:23 < martin_> gn8 rxr, gn8 all 22:26 < netrunner> n8 martin_ 22:30 < rxr> martin_: n8 - did you found more info about tommorrow ? 22:54 < martin_> rxr: no 22:54 < martin_> bye 22:54 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E79710.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit "bye bye" 23:47 < rxr> hm - boring tonight ... --- Log closed Sam Nov 15 00:00:03 2003