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--- Log opened Die Nov 18 00:00:56 2003 00:46 -!- christi [~test@141.85.164.61] has joined #rocklinux 01:35 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD900572D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:36 -!- christi [~test@141.85.164.61] has quit "Client Exiting" 01:53 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD950288F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 02:06 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-064-224.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 02:10 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-066-082.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:51 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@cm151.gamma146.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #rocklinux 04:52 < cchamilt> hi 06:06 < channelDragon> hi cchamilt 06:10 < cchamilt> another interesting nick? 06:11 < cchamilt> damn, i can't get dri to compile with hacked up old via CLE266 support. 06:11 < cchamilt> Also, rockplug doesnt run joydev for usb gamepads. 06:11 < cchamilt> my toy is needing manual help it seems. 06:54 < channelDragon> cchamilt: sure... 06:58 < netrunner> moin 06:59 < cchamilt> hi 07:06 < channelDragon> hi netrunner 07:25 -!- scoopex [~marc@td90919e0.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:00 < daja77> ~moin 08:03 < channelDragon> moin daja77 08:05 < daja77> hi owl 08:06 -!- scoopex [~marc@td90919e0.adsl.terralink.de] has quit Remote closed the connection 08:36 -!- kasc_ [~kasc@dsl-213-023-064-128.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:50 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-066-082.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 08:52 -!- kasc_ is now known as kasc 09:11 < netrunner> hi daja77, owl 09:13 < netrunner> nice. I updated subversion. now it just coredumps. I like it. 09:13 < channelDragon> *g* 09:28 < cchamilt> why do we build agpgart into the kernel? 09:30 < cchamilt> I mean heaven forbid anyone has to rebuild a kernel, but we are forcing people with new/variant types of video plus we dont even select all the known chipsets. 09:31 < cchamilt> Do we gain anything by building it into our rather large kernel? 09:39 < daja77> netrunner: hehe had this too 09:39 < cchamilt> subversion must die. 09:41 < netrunner> daja77: solution? 09:42 < daja77> i used the subversion gems from rc2, they work 09:42 < daja77> scripts/Emerge-Pkg apache and subversion produces unusable crap 09:42 < daja77> so it is not subversions fault i think 09:47 < cchamilt> heh yeah it isnt subversions fault... 09:47 < daja77> ? 09:48 < cchamilt> just its developers and our current way of building it. but it isnt subversion's fault :) 09:50 < cchamilt> bdb is not something that should be used to store data in that cant be easily dumped in and out of (to allow for bdb updates). 09:50 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 09:50 < MadTux> re 09:52 < daja77> moin MadTux 09:52 < MadTux> moin daja77 09:52 < MadTux> daja77: where are my rc3 isos? :) 09:52 < daja77> there none 09:52 < daja77> are 09:53 < MadTux> :(((((((( 09:54 < daja77> rxr said he has some isos to play with, so i will start official build when some annoying bugs (fontconfig) and stuff are fixed 09:54 < netrunner> hm. now that I recompiled svn, it works. but It says it is the version compiled yesterday. this tool is weird. 09:55 < daja77> yep I have a svn 0.32.1 too, after I installed 0.30 .gem 09:56 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-155.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:56 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-211.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 113 (No route to host) 09:58 < channelDragon> https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/erde/0,1518,273822,00.html << oh, oh O_o 10:01 < netrunner> daja77: this is weird. I remember when I built it yesterday, I also had the old version displayed. but the binary was replaced. 10:02 < netrunner> maybe it somehow attaches to the running httpd? 10:18 < daja77> i have no idea, only thing i know is that it now works perfectly 10:19 -!- clifford [~clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #rocklinux 10:19 < daja77> moin clifford 10:20 < MadTux> Hallo clifford 10:20 < channelDragon> hi clifford 10:20 < channelDragon> hi MadTux ! *hug* 10:21 < MadTux> channelDragon: OMG another nick :) 10:21 < MadTux> channelDragon: *rehug* 10:22 < channelDragon> MadTux: *hrhr* yeah... couldn't decide between "channelmascot" and dragon ;p 10:22 < daja77> channelmascot is blindcoder 10:23 < MadTux> hahaha well said daja77 10:23 < channelDragon> *g* why blindy? 10:23 < MadTux> channelDragon: good so here is the thing: 10:23 < MadTux> channelmascot = blindcoder 10:23 < MadTux> channelpuppy = daja77 10:23 < MadTux> channelDragon = owl 10:23 < MadTux> :) 10:23 < clifford> hi all. 10:24 < cchamilt> hi clifford 10:24 < MadTux> channelmaster = clifford 10:24 < cchamilt> clifford: why do we build agpgart into the kernel? 10:24 * clifford now knows the emergency-emptying procedure for his washing machine.. 10:25 < daja77> clifford: got the postcard? 10:25 < MadTux> emergency-emptying procedure?!?! 10:26 < clifford> yup - that's when the machine refuses to pump the water away on its own. 10:26 < clifford> daja77: not yet.. 10:26 < daja77> hmm strange 10:27 < daja77> clifford: btw have you ported rock to that amd box you got at linuxtag? 10:27 < clifford> cchamilt: why not? it's (afaik) the kernel default on vanillia kernel. 10:28 < clifford> daja77: the soekris router? https://www.rocklinux.org/128.html 10:29 < cchamilt> because agpgart is not selecting all system types, it can be sent options on load, and as far I know it is loaded by X, etc. when needed. 10:31 * daja77 got a card for machine control with a 486 cpu on it, it says you can boot you os from flash there, so embedded rock with rt support would be my favbourite os there ;-) 10:31 < clifford> cchamilt: hmm.. could you discuss that with rene? he is far more sophisticated regarding multimedia on linux.. 10:31 < cchamilt> clifford: ok. 10:39 < rxr> re 10:40 < rxr> hi clifford 10:40 < MadTux> hello rxr 10:40 < rxr> hi all 10:43 < cchamilt> anyone wants to look at my targets, packages they are at https://www.ambigc.com/rock/mystuff/ 10:44 < MadTux> <click> 10:44 < cchamilt> rxr: Why isnt agpgart a module? 10:44 < cchamilt> only a few of the acc targets are tested. 10:45 < cchamilt> pvr and svr went through a complete build and test 10:47 -!- _spectre_ [cnydesm@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has quit "Client Exiting" 10:48 < cchamilt> oh openca is the only package not building, lirc and a few others build - but not correctly. 10:50 < cchamilt> openca, samhain, and cvs-etc are broken. lirc is not building everythin and sks may be. 10:54 < MadTux> daja77: glibc23 fails to install with ur isos.. 10:56 < MadTux> cchamilt: btw if i was you i would take care of some of your [M] flags on the .spec files of your repository ;-) 10:57 < MadTux> daja77: gnome-print10 also fail to install with your isos... this sux.. 10:58 < rxr> cchamilt: the AGP stuff was complete kernel default 10:58 < rxr> I now added the two missing AGP bridge support options to the x86 config ... 10:58 < MadTux> rxr: have you got rc2 o rc3 isos for me? 10:59 < rxr> nope - not yet fully tested 10:59 < rxr> but the generic rc2 is ok 10:59 < rxr> I guess CD error 10:59 < MadTux> rxr: mm... 10:59 < MadTux> if you like i can test ur new isos.. 11:00 < MadTux> rxr: i need something to install a rock system anyways 11:01 < rxr> daja installed it at least two times - and I have a success report in my mailbox 11:01 < rxr> so the ISO seems to be fine 11:01 < MadTux> rxr: okis.. reburning 11:01 < MadTux> rxr: still i can test ur isos if you want 11:02 < cchamilt> rxr: OK, but I have a special situation for agpgart, and I think it might be seen other times. I have to send agpgart the try_unsupported=1 option to get the via nehemiah board to work. 11:03 < cchamilt> rxr: I just think it would be easier to mess with as a module, and not sure why the kernel needs it built in. 11:09 < rxr> you should patch the kernel to add the pciid if the module works correctly - and send it to linux-kernel ... 11:11 < cchamilt> well it is an alan cox involved solution, so... 11:11 < rxr> so - now it is modular 11:12 < rxr> but you always can add a tiny kernel config to your target that tunes the kernel in the way you need it ... 11:13 < cchamilt> yeah, but it is something I can everyone can use. If you dont think so, then I may, I am not very convinced the via system is best yet. 11:20 < cchamilt> oh yeah, another whiny reason: nvidia binaries may use it, but can use their own agpgart. I remember some systems werent so compatible with agpgart and nvidia a couple years back. 11:23 < daja77> MadTux: pleas check the md5sums of the isos before burning, to avoid download errors 11:23 < daja77> please 11:38 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.218.72.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 11:38 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.212.85.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:39 < MadTux> daja77: i did... 11:41 < cchamilt> oh rxr: rockplug needs to load joydev for usb joysticks. 11:43 < cchamilt> rxr: I bought one for $12 last night to try out on mame. Seems to work minus joydev not loading. 11:48 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4F298.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:48 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F558.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Nick collision from services. 11:48 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 11:50 < cchamilt> hi blindcoder 11:59 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@pD952224B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:05 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@pD952224B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ":x" 12:32 < th> OT: anyone knows how to create a bootable 2880k dos-floppy? 12:35 < daja77> which os? 12:35 < th> linux 12:35 < th> or even win98,w2k or wxp 12:35 < th> but i have no hardware drive capable of 2880k floppies 12:36 < daja77> like any other bootdisk 12:36 < daja77> use a loop device 12:36 < th> daja77: the looping part is not the problem 12:36 < th> the problem is making the image/blockdevice bootable 12:36 < th> even creating the fs is no problem 12:36 < th> i use mformat -C -f 28800 x: to create the image 12:37 < daja77> well put a kernel on that disk and install lilo there 12:37 < th> a kernel? 12:37 < th> aehm 12:37 < th> stop 12:37 < th> 12:33 < daja77> which os? 12:37 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has quit "Client Exiting" 12:37 < th> i missunderstood that question 12:37 < th> i do NOT want to boot a linux 12:37 < th> i want to boot a DOS 12:38 < th> i could use "sys c:" in win98 if i'd a 2.8mb floppy drive 12:38 < daja77> for that you only have to copy io.sys and highmem.sys to the disk and set the bootable flag 12:38 < daja77> guess mtools can do that 12:38 < th> the bootable flag... 12:39 < cchamilt> if you have no 2.88 drive, why do you need it? 12:40 < SMP> th: download freedos image 12:40 < th> cchamilt: for fd-emu on iso for example 12:40 < th> SMP: are there 2.8MB images available? 12:40 < th> SMP: i searched for it 12:40 < cchamilt> there is a dos iso maker. 12:40 < cchamilt> multicd or something like that. 12:40 < SMP> th: straight bootable ISOs 12:41 < cchamilt> It loads into dos and puts what you want into ramdisk. it works, but is flaky. 12:41 < daja77> th: use C flag of mformat to do this 12:41 < daja77> C creates the disk image file to install the MS-DOS filesystem on 12:41 < daja77> it. Obviously, this is useless on physical devices such as flop- 12:41 < cchamilt> I used it on my laptop as it is either floppy or cdrom and I needed to de-regionize the cd. 12:41 < daja77> pies and hard disk partitions, but is interesting for image 12:41 < daja77> files. 12:41 < th> SMP: 10MB is a bit too big hmm 12:42 < daja77> d'oh i should learn to read 12:42 < daja77> stop 12:42 < th> SMP: but perhaps i can extract the 2880k fd image 12:42 < th> daja77: i read that too 12:42 < th> daja77: and i told you i used the -C already 12:43 < daja77> yep i missed that 12:43 < th> the bootable flag. hmm i think that's for partitons only, hmm? 12:44 < daja77> hmm maybe fdisk can do it 12:45 < th> partitioning a floppy disk? 12:45 < th> hmm 12:46 < th> ouhm. i can't loop-mount that 10MB freedos iso 12:46 < th> mount: Not a directory 12:47 < th> strange 12:49 < daja77> even when using -o loop ? 12:50 < th> there must be something wrong with the .iso 12:50 < th> daja77: yes of course i don't mount .iso files without -o loop 12:51 < th> ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A 12:51 < th> init_special_inode: bogus imode (30555) 12:51 < daja77> erhm /me does 12:52 < daja77> agin i can't read today *gnarf* 13:02 < channelDragon> *explode* 13:03 < rxr> re 13:03 < channelDragon> wb rxr 14:08 -!- hannes [~hannes@eperm.net] has quit "leaving" 14:51 < rxr> oh jsaw foods me with packages ... 15:06 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-064-128.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 15:34 -!- daja77 [[jUstaW9NP@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 15:38 -!- daja77 [[YdYYJIIZU@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:42 < rxr> hi daja77 15:53 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-060-236.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:04 < rxr> Error logs from reference-2.0.0-rc4-x86-pentium-mmx-32-reference-expert: 16:04 < rxr> [5] 3 base/sendmail [5] 0 rene/ffmpeg 16:04 < rxr> [5] 0 tsa/metamail [5] 46 gnome14/libglade10 16:04 < rxr> 2068 builds total, 414 completed fine, 4 with errors. 16:10 < cytrinox> moin 16:11 < rxr> moin 16:14 < netrunner> nice try: https://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/ 16:18 < rxr> why try? 16:18 < rxr> hm - 20kB looks rather small 16:19 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-155.arcor-ip.net] has quit "Client exiting" 16:20 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-155.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:22 < netrunner> rxr: I mean, the idea to try it this way is nice. 16:25 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-155.arcor-ip.net] has quit "Client exiting" 16:27 < rxr> linuxant done this (commercially) before 16:27 < rxr> but doing this OpenSource is indeed nice 16:31 * netrunner feels bored and goes home. 16:35 -!- hannes [~hannes@eperm.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:43 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-155.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:56 < rxr> omg, www.rocklinux-consulting.de has now already more traffic then in the wohle last month .... 16:56 < rxr> 569 vs. 554 MB ... 17:01 < blindcoder> wtf are you doing there? hosting a BitTorrent tracker? 17:01 < rxr> nope - most traffic is the handbook 17:01 < blindcoder> hrm 17:01 < rxr> 3127 different IPs so far this months ... 17:02 * daja77 back from shopping 17:02 * blindcoder doing japanese homework 17:02 < clifford> rxr: css on www.rocklinux-consulting.de: 17:02 < clifford> - font-family: Sans, Helvetica, Arial; 17:03 < clifford> + font-family: Helvetica, Arial; 17:03 < rxr> clifford: why ? 17:04 < clifford> because i don't want to read the page in an arabic font. 17:04 < rxr> huh ? 17:05 < rxr> which browser and OS ? 17:07 < clifford> konqueror on debian sid 17:07 < rxr> hm - what is your setting in: 17:08 < rxr> Setting -> Configure Konqueror -> Font -> Sans serif font 17:08 < rxr> ? 17:08 < rxr> hm - or standard font 17:08 < clifford> rxr: "sans" != "sans-serif" 17:09 < rxr> I know - but this was the closest math 17:10 < clifford> math? 17:10 < rxr> match even - so I thought standard font might be the value used 17:10 < rxr> but it isn't I just changed all of these settings and the site renders the same 17:11 < clifford> no - it uses a font called "sans", if such a font is installed on the system. 17:16 < rxr> hm - to bad a generic name "sans" really does not seem to be defined in the standard ... 17:17 < rxr> on ROCK Linux the standard configuration as shipped with XFree86 translates sans to sans-serif ... 17:19 < rxr> clifford: does it look better now ? 17:20 < clifford> no - but now I can read the text. ;-) 17:21 < rxr> clifford: another question - does your http logs list the reffering site? I have an increased (factor 4-5) traffic on www.rocklinux-consulting.de all comming from the www.rocklinux.org/handbook.html side - it would be nice to know if we are in some news again ... 17:21 < rxr> clifford: it does not look better now? What is the problem now? 17:23 < clifford> well - imo the arabic font actually looked better - but it is much easier for me to read the latin font. ;-) 17:23 < daja77> lol 17:24 * clifford now adding logging to the "new" rocklinux webpage. 17:24 < mnemoc> new rocklinux webpage? 17:24 < daja77> rock linux page in arabic would rock 17:24 < rxr> daja77: go for it .... 17:26 < daja77> you don't know my todo ;-) 17:29 < mnemoc> https://www.sendthemback.org/ <-- o_O 17:31 < daja77> hehe 17:32 < rxr> why should I send the laptop-ified version of my CDs to them 17:32 < rxr> and do they really want to get a 2GB mail ? 17:33 < daja77> hehe you should ask your provider ^^ 17:36 < mnemoc> btw, how is the patents' sth going? 17:43 < rxr> patents in europe? 17:45 < mnemoc> sw patents in europe 17:51 * netrunner searching for outlook on his disk ... 17:53 < netrunner> du -sm /space/mp3 : 40285 /space/mp3 17:53 < netrunner> my memory can't hold so many, unable to prepare email ;) 17:54 < clifford> Q: What's you favorite www log analyser ? 17:54 * netrunner -> emergency (bring a power cable to a friends) 17:54 < blindcoder> A: webalizer 17:54 < netrunner> clifford: webalizer 17:54 < blindcoder> although webalizer is a PITA to compile with DNS-lookup 17:55 -!- OffToWar [~zen@user-uiveqo4.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 17:56 < clifford> blindcoder: default = without DNS-lookup ? 17:56 < blindcoder> clifford: correct 17:57 < blindcoder> clifford: on no system which I have tried have I been able to let webalizer's configure find the bdb V1.85 compatible header files 17:57 < blindcoder> clifford: I usually edited the Makefile by hand 18:04 < rxr> clifford: mine is awstats ... 18:04 < rxr> (perl) 18:26 < clifford> hmm.. is there a way to get the current's page referer in java script? 18:27 < mnemoc> document.referer i think 18:27 * blindcoder gone 18:28 < clifford> mnemoc: ah. thanks. I've only looked in location and history .. 18:29 < mnemoc> :\np 18:29 < mnemoc> s/:\\// 18:32 < rxr> clifford: what are you doing now? This info can easily be looged by apache ... 18:32 < rxr> javescript-less ... 18:32 < clifford> rxr: If I use the apache log I don't have the logs from the mirrors and don't have cached pages. 18:33 < clifford> I'm just adapting my usual javascript-logging tool to also log stuff like referer.. 18:36 < clifford> oups! found a potentional buffer-overflow exploit in my logger app... ;-) 18:38 < mnemoc> clifford: btee is stack attacked by rc :) { ... } 2>&1 | btee a init.msg 18:42 < esden> hi all 18:42 < mnemoc> hi esden 18:42 < rxr> oh! hi esden 18:43 < esden> hi mnemoc,rxr 18:43 < esden> rxr: you seem surprised ;) 18:43 < daja77> hi esden! 18:43 < esden> hi daja77 18:43 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 18:43 < MadTux> re 18:43 < daja77> wb MadTux 18:43 < esden> but I think I need some nicotine now ... cu in a moment 18:44 < MadTux> thanks a lot daja77 18:44 < mnemoc> hi Micky 18:44 < MadTux> hi mnemocy 18:49 < mnemoc> *hungry* 18:49 < MadTux> eat daja77 .. 18:49 < daja77> you could eat a mad tux 18:49 < mnemoc> tux grille :) 18:50 < daja77> yep, micky bbq 18:50 * daja77 runs 18:50 * MadTux stares at mnemoc's hands .. move them or loose them 18:50 < mnemoc> :o 18:50 * MadTux shoiots daja77 18:50 < daja77> you what 18:51 < mnemoc> lol 18:51 < MadTux> shoots :) 18:51 < MadTux> argg i'm so fscking tired 18:52 < daja77> you missed me I am too fast for you :p 18:52 < MadTux> daja77: no you aren't 18:52 < MadTux> even if haven't sleep in days i can beat your slow fat ass 18:52 < MadTux> :) 18:52 < daja77> so catch me :p 18:52 < MadTux> also yours mnemoc :P 18:53 < mnemoc> turbo-daja beats everyone :) 18:53 < MadTux> mnemoc: dajaXP :) 18:53 < daja77> MadTux: so you like to beat male asses, is there sth we should know about you? 18:53 < mnemoc> rotfl 18:54 < MadTux> daja77: you little bastard 18:54 < daja77> ;-) 18:54 * MadTux grabs his sword 18:54 * daja77 grabs blindy's sword 18:54 < MadTux> what wereu saying? 18:54 < daja77> i was just wondering ... 18:55 < MadTux> that sword is only usefull on bc hands 18:55 < daja77> says who :p 18:55 < MadTux> daja77: lets see.. i got a gf, i'm engaed.. hate gays.. is that enough? 18:55 < mnemoc> fight fight fight 18:55 < MadTux> mnemoc: you want to see blood? 18:56 < daja77> MadTux: mnemoc wants us to fight anyway 18:56 < MadTux> daja77: lets give him some blood 18:56 < mnemoc> MadTux: supress is better than repress, don't hide your true feelings 18:56 < daja77> hehe 18:56 < mnemoc> bloooood 18:56 * MadTux walks towards mnemoc with his sword ready to attack 18:56 < mnemoc> ehmmm 18:57 < MadTux> daja77: now cut his heat off! 18:57 < MadTux> :) 18:57 < daja77> nah 18:57 * mnemoc his RoastedTux in the balls and run 18:57 < mnemoc> :) 18:57 < MadTux> daja77: traitor! 18:58 < daja77> :p 18:59 < mnemoc> i think i'll go to eat some newborn kids before my test 18:59 < MadTux> hehe 18:59 * MadTux is hungry too 18:59 < esden> re 18:59 < MadTux> mnemoc: enjoy ur meal 18:59 < MadTux> esdy! 18:59 < esden> food .. good food ;) 18:59 < mnemoc> thanks :) 18:59 < mnemoc> cu * 18:59 < esden> huhu MadTux 18:59 < esden> cu mnemoc 18:59 < daja77> damn esden joins when fight is over 19:00 < esden> hrm 19:00 * esden has nothing to say ;) 19:00 * esden has no voice ;) 19:00 < MadTux> daja77: iyts never late for a fight 19:00 < daja77> ts why you left your voice at university 19:00 < clifford> <mnemoc> clifford: btee is stack attacked by rc :) { ... } 2>&1 | btee a init.msg 19:00 < MadTux> esden: mnemoc and daja77 said that they can beat you on a sword challenge 19:01 -!- OffToWar [~zen@user-uiveqo4.dsl.mindspring.com] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 19:01 < clifford> mnemoc: btee's buffer is not on the stack. 19:02 < mnemoc> clifford: at least it screams a lot :) 19:02 * esden reading backlog : [18:49] * MadTux stares at mnemoc's hands .. move them or loose them 19:03 < clifford> mnemoc: "Buffer is full -> drop data!" ? 19:03 < esden> MadTux: you should say it like trinity: "Touch me and this hands will never touch anything else" ;) 19:03 < MadTux> esden: well said 19:03 < mnemoc> clifford: what about buffering to a tmpfs instead of char[BUFFER]? 19:04 < mnemoc> have to go.. :( 19:05 < mnemoc> ^ADD 19:12 < daja77> esden: trinity looks much better ;-) 19:15 -!- elon [~moep2k@pD9E77BD9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:23 < esden> daja77: that may be true ;) 19:23 < rxr> hm - I managed to "loose" my tee cup during coding 19:23 < rxr> damn 19:24 < rxr> tea even 19:25 < rxr> damn - how can a cup hide that well 19:29 < daja77> behind the laptop? 19:30 < esden> rxr: perhups you should clean up the mess around you and then you will find the tea cup for sure 19:31 < rxr> esden: great idea - beside it it not that messy - and I already looked arround five times or so .. :-( 19:47 -!- OffToWar [~zen@user-2ivel12.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 19:49 -!- _spectre_ [sqokkr@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:54 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 19:54 < A-Tui> hi all 19:55 < daja77> hola A-Tui 19:55 < A-Tui> hola daja77 19:55 < A-Tui> this evening i install my rock2.0 build :) 19:56 < A-Tui> this xchat is running on it 20:00 < rxr> A-Tui: congratulations 20:00 < daja77> yep have fun with it 20:00 * daja77 now off 20:00 < A-Tui> i have a very strange error with fotnconf 20:01 < A-Tui> my build adds a "--" to the log, and then it was added to the fontconf's XML so it can't validate 20:02 < rxr> A-Tui: is this in the date? because you had not set a timezone? 20:03 < A-Tui> rxr, i don't now :) 20:03 < A-Tui> i supposed that this was done when i was building 20:06 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit "Terminando cliente" 20:09 -!- johnjj [~v1r422@pD9EB2BF7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:10 -!- iBook [~martin@pD9E7A7AB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:11 < johnjj> hi, does anybody know about libgtkhtml-3.0 which is needed by evolution 1.4.5 ? - the package only supports libgtkhtml-2.0 20:12 < johnjj> sorry - the version was 2.4 20:20 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802A84.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:20 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 20:20 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [] [Sun Aug 3 22:11:35 2003] 20:20 [Users #rocklinux] 20:20 [ [anders] ] [ channelDragon] [ hannes] [ mistik1 ] [ rolla] [ vegai] 20:20 [ _spectre_ ] [ clifford ] [ iBook ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] 20:20 [ Aard ] [ cytrinox ] [ johnjj] [ Nebukadneza] [ SMP ] 20:20 [ aszlig ] [ daja77 ] [ k3t_ ] [ netrunne1 ] [ snyke] 20:20 [ blindcoder] [ elon ] [ kasc ] [ netrunner ] [ th ] 20:20 [ cchamilt ] [ esden ] [ MadTux] [ OffToWar ] [ true ] 20:20 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 31 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 31 normal] 20:20 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug 3 22:11:35 2003 20:20 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 12 secs 20:20 < johnjj> yes 20:20 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 20:20 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:20 < johnjj> else, would i ask here ? 20:20 < MadTux> re all 20:21 < rxr> we had people asking for rh or so here ... 20:21 < A-Tui> hi newly 20:21 < rxr> johnjj: https://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/libgtkhtml/ 20:21 < rxr> just has 2.4 - where do you see or need s.th. like 3.0 ? 20:22 < MadTux> Aitor newly? 20:22 < johnjj> evolution asks for it - sorry 20:22 < A-Tui> MadTux: sorry, again 20:22 < johnjj> -> Reading package configuration from package directory. 20:22 < johnjj> -> Preparing build in src.evolution.1069183292.32351.2982398137 20:22 < johnjj> -> Creating backup of old package data. 20:22 < johnjj> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/9-evolution.out 20:22 < johnjj> !> checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config 20:22 < johnjj> !> checking for libgtkhtml-3.0... Package libgtkhtml-3.0 wa .. 20:22 < johnjj> !> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libgtkh .. 20:22 < johnjj> !> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable 20:22 < MadTux> A-Tui: sorry for? 20:22 < johnjj> !> No package 'libgtkhtml-3.0' found 20:22 < johnjj> !> configure: error: Library requirements (libgtkhtml-3.0) .. 20:22 < johnjj> -> $root/var/adm/logs/9-evolution.out -> 9-evolution.err 20:22 < A-Tui> i did a literal spanish translate 20:23 < iBook> hi all 20:23 < iBook> hi rxr 20:23 < MadTux> mm.. have no clue of what ua re talking about 20:23 < rxr> hi iBook 20:23 < MadTux> hi martin 20:23 < A-Tui> MadTux: i want to say "hi again" 20:23 < A-Tui> only that :) 20:24 < MadTux> A-Tui: shame on you :P 20:24 < rxr> johnjj: hm - could you mail our gnome maintainer Juergen Sawinski <george@sun0.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de> and ask about this? 20:25 < iBook> rxr: I'll install Win**** on my Desktop PC. So I must install grub new: Booting dROCK 1.6 CD1 and start "Install", or is there a better way? 20:26 < MadTux> rxr: ho are package updates been handled currently? still taking update patches or have the procedure changed? 20:26 < rxr> MadTux: still take them - if tested and they do not break stuff 20:26 < rxr> iBook: why not just run in in vmware ... 20:26 < MadTux> rxr: good. thanks 20:27 < rxr> iBook: just take a bootdisk with grub and run: 20:27 < johnjj> rxr: i found the error - there are 2 packages ! libgtkhtml and gtkhmtl - last one is version 3.0.8 as on my crux-system 20:27 < iBook> rxr: I have no bootdisk ... 20:27 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/products/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbookse15.html#x26-640007.2.3 20:28 < johnjj> rxr: so maybe someone has to fix the packagename 20:28 < rxr> iBook: then read first: 20:28 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/products/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbookse15.html#x26-640007.2.2 20:28 < rxr> johnjj: ah ok 20:32 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802BCF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 20:38 < rxr> iBook: does this help 20:39 < rxr> johnjj: I think the names will stay shit way - they are the official names used by the gnome people# 20:44 < johnjj> rxr: i saw it - its really dirty 20:46 < rxr> s/shit/this/ - sorry 20:53 < johnjj> ccc is this year somewhere else ? 20:53 < rxr> johnjj: yes 20:54 < rxr> /etc/permissions.local 20:54 < iBook> rxr: ups, I start the bootdisk and become a "stage2Geom" error :-( 20:54 < rxr> chkstat -set /etc/permissions.local 20:54 < rxr> argh?!?!? Are those SuSE freaks on drugs or what 20:54 < rxr> if someone read www.heise.de - WE DO NOT HAVE THIS FLAW ... 20:55 < rxr> oeh? 20:55 < rxr> yould you try on another PC? 20:55 < rxr> I bet disk is dead 20:56 < iBook> rxr: hmm? 20:57 < rxr> defect - bad sectors ... 20:58 < rxr> fdformat /dev/floppy/0u1440 or so 21:04 < rxr> Apple spendiert iMac einen 20-Zoll-Bildschirm 21:04 < rxr> cool - might make a nice X terminal for my desk 21:04 < rxr> urgh - nvidia graphic chip - :-( 21:11 < rxr> the heise forum stuff sucks - no preview and no reedit ... 21:12 < iBook> Frontal21 - Maut - *lol* 21:12 < iBook> zdf 21:12 < rxr> and it seems no html code inside a reply 21:16 < iBook> rxr: grub-bootdisk sucks :-( 21:23 < rxr> why - ever worked for me ... 21:29 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 21:30 < iBook> "stage2Geom Error" - but the disk is not defect. 21:33 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros-umzug.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:34 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros-umzug.bingo-ev.de] has quit Client Quit 21:35 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:49 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit "I like core dumps" 21:51 -!- OffToWar [~zen@user-2ivel12.dialup.mindspring.com] has quit Connection timed out 22:00 < iBook> cu all 22:00 < rxr> cu martin 22:04 -!- Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: snyke 22:05 -!- iBook [~martin@pD9E7A7AB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit "bye bye" 22:11 -!- Netsplit over, joins: snyke 22:11 < rxr> X sucks so much 22:20 < esden> hrm ... ... somehow security issues are not written very big in svn ... *sigh* 22:20 * esden continues reading the svn book 22:21 < esden> perhups I find something usefull ... otherwise I will have to fight with hookscripts 22:24 < esden> lool 22:24 * esden got mail from sun because of my requested sponsoring for rocklinux 22:25 < esden> "we do not sponsor anyone besides McLaren Mercedes" <-- THEY DO NOT NEED SPONSORING!!! 22:26 < esden> they are pushing the money in the ases of the rich ... that is the real equity in this world 22:26 < esden> *sigh* 22:29 < rxr> esden: mail from? 22:29 < esden> from sun microsystems 22:30 < rxr> ah 22:46 -!- _snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:47 -!- Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: snyke 22:48 -!- link_ [~link_@adsl-212-101-21-193.solnet.ch] has joined #rocklinux 22:53 -!- _snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit Client Quit 22:56 -!- Netsplit over, joins: snyke 22:57 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit Client Quit 22:57 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:58 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit Client Quit 23:09 < link_> ich such immer noch nen FUNKTIONIERENDEN no-cd crack fuer warcraft3 RoC v1.12 - bitte erhoert mich, ihr crack goetter ( und ja, ich hab das spiel gekauft - auf linux laeufts halt einfach nicht ohne no-cd crack ) 23:12 < rxr> link_: this channel is LANG=en 23:13 < rxr> link_: this cahnnel about Windows - or other commercial software - especially not cracks ... 23:13 < link_> sorry, i didn't know, that /amsg send to all irc servers i have open =) 23:15 < link_> rxr, i have bought the game.. i try to play games under linux, so i have to search a no-cd crack .. if i bought the game, i can crack it whenever i want, if i don't break any rules.. 23:16 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:20 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit Client Quit 23:20 -!- _spectre_ [sqokkr@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has quit "Client Exiting" 23:23 < rxr> link_: depends on the country you are in 23:24 < link_> maybe.. but i find it unright, to let play games all windows users, and linux users are just crap to the programmers 23:24 < link_> =( 23:25 < rxr> in many countries reverse engineer or simply modifing whatever digital maybe be prohibited 23:25 < rxr> link_: this is also not my opinion 23:25 < rxr> link_: it is just the law as it is in some countries 23:26 < link_> yeah .. 23:26 < rxr> I also modified my original GP3 to run in Wine: 23:26 < rxr> https://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/rene/photos/gp3/gallery.html 23:26 < rxr> but this channel is just not about cracks ... 23:27 < link_> i see your point rxr =) 23:27 -!- _spectre_ [yyobpg@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:28 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:30 < rxr> of course when one paid for a product it should be the customers free decision what to do with the product - burning it (because it sucked so much) or modifying (because the table was too high) should be the same - with, of course, the coping it 1:1 in digital form for others does not work out - but all the rest should be allowed 23:40 < rxr> n8 all 23:40 < rxr> cu 23:50 < MadTux> gute nacht rxr --- Log closed Mit Nov 19 00:00:14 2003