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--- Log opened Son Nov 23 00:00:04 2003 --- Day changed Son Nov 23 2003 00:00 < daja77> that guy pointed out that dnsdomainname tools is missig too, must have missed some build errors d'oh 00:00 < daja77> tool 00:00 < daja77> *sigh* 00:00 < rxr> they can be all auto-detected by the rockplug PCI code - if you have PCI USB chips they will be laoded if availab.e -DOT- 00:00 < daja77> ok will be fine for me as long as that errors vanish 00:01 < rxr> yes - they vanish in -rc4 00:01 < daja77> btw he also reported trouble with usb mouse, d'oh 00:01 < daja77> ok 00:01 < MadTux> mm.. good mourning daja77 00:01 * daja77 grins 00:01 < MadTux> :D 00:02 < daja77> just wanted to reply to all this *sigh* 00:02 < MadTux> yeah yeah.. 00:02 < daja77> ping pong mailing is fun 00:02 < MadTux> ;-) 00:03 < cytrinox`> gn8 00:03 < daja77> hmm seems he is off to bed now ^^ 00:04 -!- pieass [~se@3ffe:bc0:701:0:2a0:b0ff:fe00:1beb] has quit "leaving" 00:04 -!- pieass [~se@3ffe:bc0:701:0:2a0:b0ff:fe00:1beb] has joined #rocklinux 00:07 < daja77> ah nice follow up error: missing ifconfig breaks dhclient ... 00:07 < rxr> jups - dhclient uses ifconfig 00:08 * mnemoc hates that 00:08 < rxr> maybe we should convert this dhclient script use iproute2 00:08 < mnemoc> iproute2-ahu includes a rewritten dhclient-script 00:09 < rxr> ahu - what? 00:09 < mnemoc> BUT it does't use iproute2, it uses ifconfig too 00:09 < daja77> :( 00:10 < mnemoc> -ahu is one of the developers of iproute2 and he keep coding it a little further 00:10 < rxr> aha ... 00:11 < mnemoc> he translate official dhclient-script into one using functions =) 00:11 < mnemoc> and stops there 00:12 < mnemoc> is't too hard to migrate THAT script to iproute2 00:12 < rxr> too hard - or _not_ too hard? 00:12 < mnemoc> not =) 00:13 < mnemoc> i was updating iproute2 pkg to -ahu but i got out of time :( 00:14 < mnemoc> are all iproute developers dead? =\ 00:15 < rxr> mnemoc: I do not know - but it looks like this ... 00:18 < daja77> ah errlist of rc2 build reveals it 00:18 < daja77> [5] clifford/bacterium [5] base/xfsprogs 00:18 < daja77> [5] base/net-tools [5] base/dump 00:18 < daja77> net-tools is the relevant package 00:19 < mnemoc> i thought i had sent patches for xfsprogs and dump.... mmm 00:20 < rxr> mnemoc: yes all in - all fixed 00:20 < rxr> mnemoc: but daja77 talks about an old -rc2 build 00:20 < daja77> well as i said this is rc2 errlog 00:20 < daja77> yep 00:21 < mnemoc> i had not updated my rock tree in almost two weeks ;) 00:21 * mnemoc is outdated 00:21 < MadTux> daja77: hehehe you truely have a sensitive sleep 00:21 < MadTux> hi mnemoc 00:21 < mnemoc> hi RoastedTux 00:22 * daja77 having the reporting guy on the phone atm 00:22 < mnemoc> rxr: i'm waiting you idea about where iproute2 ppl is 00:24 < rxr> mnemoc: as I said - I suppored your idea they are all dead 00:24 < rxr> mnemoc: maybe writee all of them an mail asking what the current maintain status is 00:25 < mnemoc> maybe richard gooch is with them =) 00:29 < mnemoc> btw, lartc.org is alive, lartc.org is at ds9a.nl and -ahu is @ds9a.nl so he is 'reachable' 00:31 < mnemoc> rxr: you, as a lkml reader, know something about current devfs state? 00:32 < rxr> I have not followed it much in the last weeks or two months or so 00:33 < rxr> but the state is what Clifford wrote about on rock-linux in reply to your mail ... 00:33 < rxr> Richard Gooch just fanished because all the people pissed him all the time 00:33 < rxr> it is no wonder that he lost fun to work on devfs ... 00:34 < mnemoc> :(... /me loves devfs 00:34 < rxr> but my personal state is that if noone will I'll continue to maintain devfs stuff - since it is what I want and need - FULLSTOP - 00:34 < mnemoc> full ack 00:35 < mnemoc> brb 00:35 < rxr> cu all later 00:35 < rxr> n8 00:35 < daja77> bye rxr 00:36 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: owl|KKH 00:38 -!- Netsplit over, joins: owl|KKH 00:39 < pieass> wb owl 00:39 < daja77> ?? 00:39 < pieass> sorry 00:40 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: owl|KKH 00:41 -!- Netsplit over, joins: owl|KKH 00:44 < MadTux> owl? 00:46 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: owl|KKH 00:46 -!- Netsplit over, joins: owl|KKH 00:46 < pieass> she gets netsplitted all the time, sorry. 00:47 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: owl|KKH 00:48 -!- Netsplit over, joins: owl|KKH 00:51 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: owl|KKH 00:51 -!- Netsplit over, joins: owl|KKH 00:56 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: owl|KKH 00:57 -!- Netsplit over, joins: owl|KKH 00:57 < daja77> ok /me now finally off to bed 00:57 < daja77> cu 00:58 < pieass> gn8 00:58 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: owl|KKH 00:59 < pieass> this netsplitting bothers me 01:00 -!- Netsplit over, joins: owl|KKH 01:03 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: owl|KKH 01:04 -!- Netsplit over, joins: owl|KKH 01:06 -!- owl|KKH_ [~owl@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:07 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: owl|KKH 01:52 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ["Client Exiting"] 01:53 -!- elon_2 [~moep2k@pD9E75FCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:59 -!- elon_ [~moep2k@pD9E75FCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 02:17 < rxr> 2070 builds total, 1064 completed fine, 18 with errors. 02:21 < rxr> 2070 builds total, 1072 completed fine, 18 with errors. 02:21 < rxr> n8 02:26 < pieass> gn8 03:11 -!- pieass [~se@3ffe:bc0:701:0:2a0:b0ff:fe00:1beb] has quit "leaving" 04:07 < mnemoc> *yawn* 04:26 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.253.186.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:46 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.247.252.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 05:36 -!- elon_2 [~moep2k@pD9E75FCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit "thats all folks" 09:11 -!- cmk is now known as Christian_______ 09:19 < netrunner> moin 10:00 -!- scoopex [~marc@td9091b05.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:14 < blindcoder> moin moin 11:02 < daja77> moin blindy 11:05 < blindcoder> moin daja 11:07 * blindcoder now has his first two encrypted LVP DVDs :) 11:09 < daja77> ^^ 11:11 < blindcoder> now I'm going to write some more and then start reimplementing the scripts 11:12 < daja77> ok 11:18 < rxr> re 11:18 < rxr> moin 11:18 -!- Christian_______ [~konversat@pD9530AE2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 11:19 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9502DD2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:19 < blindcoder> moin rxr 11:20 < daja77> hi rxr 11:25 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-087.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:40 < rxr> 2070 builds total, 1338 completed fine, 24 with errors. 11:42 < rxr> some of the 24 errors can easily be fixed 11:45 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4FAA8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:45 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p50801EE4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Nick collision from services. 11:45 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 12:00 < rxr> 2070 builds total, 1354 completed fine, 24 with errors. 12:27 < fake> re 12:27 < daja77> hi fake! 12:27 < blindcoder> moin fake 12:28 * fake fixing his links on apollo 12:28 < blindcoder> fake: which ones don't work? 12:29 < fake> blindcoder: the missing '/' thing after directories now leads to bchat.net - but nevermind, i just fixed my script to add that slash to directory links 12:29 < fake> (apollo has become slower...) 12:30 < blindcoder> fake: the speed issue will be resolved once we have a second 80GB disc and a RAID Controller 12:31 < fake> ah 12:31 < fake> <- doesn't need a fast machine, but a reliable one ;) 12:32 < blindcoder> well, fast would be a nice bonus to reliable :) 12:34 < daja77> reliable on intel hw, hmmm 12:34 < blindcoder> daja77: why not? 12:34 < blindcoder> old apollo on intel hw had almost 2 years uptime 12:34 < blindcoder> until we decided to upgrade the hardware 12:35 < daja77> let's put this way i do not trust my hw ^^ 12:36 < blindcoder> you have to trust someone 12:37 < daja77> i trust the replicated afs servers at university ^^ 12:39 * daja77 off for breakfast 12:40 < blindcoder> so you trust the software. As a programmer, I don't really trust software 12:40 < blindcoder> that's why I usually like to code the things I need myself 12:40 < blindcoder> (as far as my knowledge suffices) 12:40 < netrunner> blindcoder: and you made bad experience with your sw, so you do not trust in sw? 12:40 < daja77> well they lost one big server a week ago, they had all the data back online 3h later, due fast backups 12:40 < blindcoder> netrunner: yes, indeed 12:41 < blindcoder> netrunner: and I'm not talking Windows here 12:41 * netrunner playing with his 9210 12:41 < blindcoder> daja77: sounds much like coda to me. except with the coda concept htere wouldn't have been any outage 12:41 < blindcoder> (given it was set up correctly) 12:42 < daja77> well openafs is maintained sw instead of coda 12:42 < daja77> it takes some time to read data from tape ^^ 12:42 < blindcoder> I haven't followed the networked file systems for a while now 12:43 * daja77 'll try to package openafs later that day 12:49 < rxr> re 12:53 -!- Christian___ [~konversat@pD9530AE2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:59 < rxr> hi Christian___ 12:59 < Christian___> hi rxr 12:59 < Christian___> whats up? ;) 13:00 < Christian___> how is it going on with the graphical installation tool for rock? 13:02 < rxr> ;-) This one is not yet started - it is planned for the next year 13:02 < rxr> currently the pre-2.0.0 polishing phase is still running ... 13:03 < Christian___> I have read about the renaming of the whole ROCK-Linux project. Are there any countable decisions made up to this day? 13:05 < rxr> I think no final decision yet - but I think we will definetly keep ROCK in the name ... 13:06 < Christian___> yeah keeping rock in the name is important i think 13:07 < Christian___> brb 5 minutes 13:08 < Christian___> re 13:10 < Christian___> rxr: the graphical installation tool will be written in? bash i guess 13:10 < rxr> nope 13:10 < rxr> it will use the technology I'll develop for GSMP (gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/gsmp) 13:11 -!- kasc_ [~kasc@dsl-213-023-060-027.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:11 < rxr> some Cavas framweork - probably based on Evas (www.enlightenment.org 13:11 < rxr> ) 13:12 < rxr> and will use the current STONE modules - just with graphical fluff arround ... 13:12 < Christian___> interesting 13:12 < rxr> the next generation GSMP GUI will look like a mixture of Blender and Ableton Live (the later is not OpenSource) 13:13 < rxr> but we are not just cloning them - I have this ideas already for 1 1/2 years now, just not the time to implement them 13:13 < daja77> speaking of next year, the split package feature isn't implementated yet, right? 13:13 < rxr> daja77: nope - we already did much in 2.0 - maybe too much (?) 13:14 < daja77> dunno 13:14 < daja77> just think that one huge openafs package is sort of ugly, but will do for a while i guess 13:14 -!- Christian___ is now known as Christian 13:15 -!- Christian is now known as Chrissi 13:15 < rxr> what does the package include that makes a split worth? 13:15 -!- Chrissi is now known as ChristianQt 13:18 < daja77> server and client part e.g. you don't need the server part on all the clients 13:19 < daja77> perhaps we don't have to split up that much like fedora does 13:19 < daja77> https://www.openafs.org/pages/release/openafs-1.2.10a.html#fedora-1.0 13:25 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-082-082-081-011.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 13:27 -!- elon [~moep2k@pD9E77166.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:53 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 13:54 < th> re 13:56 -!- pieass [~se@3ffe:bc0:701:0:2a0:b0ff:fe00:1beb] has joined #rocklinux 14:04 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-087.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 14:04 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-103.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:05 < pieass> re 14:13 -!- nookie [~nookie@M271P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 14:16 -!- alex [~alex@wbar2.sea1-4-5-064-189.sea1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:17 < alex> Can I use pkgsrc with rock linux OR can I change the directory layout completely without changing all the scripts for building packages? 14:18 -!- _KonvIRC [~konversat@pD9E39A0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:20 -!- _KonvIRC [~konversat@pD9E39A0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 14:20 -!- _KonvIRC [~konversat@pD9E39A0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:28 < alex> Are you trying to say me "do not reinvent the wheel"? 14:29 < alex> But shit happens anyway - pkgsrc is cool and it makes linux and NetBSD to shine. 14:30 < alex> Anyway, one always needs to have software he or she wants on his or her machine, so ... 14:31 < blindcoder> what is pkgsrc? 14:31 < A-Tui> blindcoder: similar to rock 1.6 14:31 < blindcoder> A-Tui: hmm 14:32 < A-Tui> yo write ports for apps and the use some tools to compile them 14:32 < alex> pkgsrc is like ports, but for NetBSD 14:32 < alex> https://www.netbsd.org/Documentation/software/packages.html 14:32 < blindcoder> alex: personally, I'm quite sure that it won't work without some kind of rock2pkgsrc converter 14:33 < alex> That is a shit, since I really don't have time now (too much classes) to port it! 14:33 < alex> Howeve, pkgsrc was ported to other linux distros 14:33 < blindcoder> alex: well, that's bad. 14:33 < alex> So, ... 14:33 < blindcoder> no. no. and no. 14:33 < alex> What? It IS ported 14:33 < alex> to linux 14:33 -!- ChristianQt [~konversat@pD9530AE2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 14:34 < blindcoder> I know what you're going to ask and I say no. 14:35 < alex> What did I wanna ask... ;) 14:35 < alex> ? 14:35 < blindcoder> "Could you write one?" 14:36 < alex> No, I don't 14:36 < alex> :P 14:36 < alex> I wanted to ask the other thing though 14:36 < alex> I noticed that the directory layout in ROCK Linux is kinda different 14:37 < alex> ...from one specified in linux fs hierarchy standard 14:37 < alex> right. 14:38 < alex> Can I make it lfs compliant? 14:38 < alex> I think that the base sub-distro is ok 14:38 < blindcoder> hmm... we had some problems trying to be FHS comform lately 14:38 < blindcoder> you should discuss this with rxr 14:39 < blindcoder> base sub-distro? 14:39 < blindcoder> you mean generic? 14:39 < alex> yeah, but base or generic - these are just words for the same idea 14:39 < alex> ;) 14:40 < blindcoder> well, base is more associated with the package/base repository, while generic is the target/generic build target 14:40 < alex> oh... 14:40 < alex> OK, sorry for incorrect use of the terms 14:41 < alex> Could I install the generic distro first, and then use pkgsrc on top of it 14:41 < blindcoder> I see no problems with that, although I don't know how/if pkgsrc does dependency checking 14:41 < alex> Since, pkgsrc would work with fhs compliant system, I believe 14:41 < alex> It does it very good. 14:42 < alex> blindcoder, I recommend you to consider it, since it IS *really* good. 14:42 < blindcoder> well, rpm does dependency checking by checking if the corresponding rpm packages are installed 14:42 < alex> blindcoder, I use it on NetBSD and had a little experience on slackware. 14:42 -!- _KonvIRC is now known as ChristianQt 14:42 < alex> It is source based 14:42 < blindcoder> if pkgsrc is doing it in a similiar way, you'll run into trouble 14:42 < daja77> i don't see any pkgsrc advantage over rocklinux build system 14:43 < A-Tui> i think like daja77 14:43 < alex> daja77, really? 14:43 < blindcoder> well, I'm quite fond with ROCK's package management tools 14:43 < daja77> yes 14:43 < alex> daja77, ok. I've not used your system yet (but may use it probably :) 14:44 < daja77> :) 14:44 < alex> daja77, is it like a directory structure, is it correct? 14:44 < alex> I mean the package system in rock? 14:44 < alex> where I should change to the appropriate dir and execute a bash script? 14:45 < alex> or is it more like portage, where you just execute portage <packagename>? 14:46 < blindcoder> alex: in the easiest way, a ROCK package just consists of a file specifying where to download the source and some additional information 14:46 < daja77> guess you'd like to read the handbook https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/products/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbook.html 14:46 < alex> All the docs I have seen by the moment only tell about creating rock, not the packageing system itself 14:46 < alex> daja77, which chapter? 14:46 < alex> there's nothing about the system itself in ch19 14:46 < blindcoder> alex: if that isn't sufficient, you'll have to add a .conf file which is a bash-script telling ROCK how to build the package 14:46 < alex> only about packages 14:47 < blindcoder> well... the "system" would be scipts/Build-Pkg 14:47 < alex> oh, I think I know what you mean. 14:48 < alex> Just one question: why is it a little bit "raw", e.g. I basically have to take so much care about building package? 14:48 < alex> (I am not afraid of it, just asking) 14:49 < blindcoder> alex: well, of course you have to take care. Compiling a package isn't as easy a walking the dog 14:49 < daja77> to get the builds easily automated 14:49 < alex> Well, they may be more automated, like in pkgsrc 14:50 < alex> Of course, it means more work for developers, but what the developers are for? 14:50 < daja77> pkgsrc isn't that automated 14:50 < alex> come on 14:50 < blindcoder> Build-Pkg already automates most of the packages including applying patches et al 14:50 < daja77> developers are a rare ressource, what are computers for? 14:51 -!- ChristianQt [~konversat@pD9E39A0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux ["KDE Rules!"] 14:51 < daja77> Build-Pkg can detect the build system of most of the packages as well 14:51 < alex> I occasionally have to correct something in the build. There are virtually no packages in pkgsrc that would not compile. 14:51 -!- ChristianQt [~konversat@pD9E39A0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:51 < blindcoder> well, less than 1% of the packages in ROCK fail atm. that's also virtually none :) 14:52 < alex> daja77, The biggest problem I have with rock is its directory layout. 14:52 < blindcoder> the layout in package/ ? 14:52 < alex> About packages... well, but how much work I would have to do to make it finally build? 14:53 < alex> e.g. in NetBSD I only do make install, and generally I get a built package 14:53 < blindcoder> rxr is currently runig a reference build and said that most of them are trivial to fix 14:53 < alex> btw, what about stability? 14:53 < alex> blindcoder, "packages/"? 14:54 < rxr> re 14:54 < blindcoder> alex: ehm... what directory layout are you talking about? 14:54 < alex> blindcoder, layout of the dirs in the rock linus 14:54 < blindcoder> alex: have you even had a look at the ROCK sources? 14:54 < alex> linux 14:54 * daja77 wondering what the heck alex is talking about 14:55 < alex> I would, if I an 100% sure I want it. I am 80% sure if I want it 14:55 < rxr> alex: what exactly is the problem? 14:55 < alex> fhs compliance 14:56 < rxr> 2070 builds total, 1427 completed fine, 24 with errors. 14:56 < alex> rxr, I mean, how difficult is it to change the directory layout, or use pkgsrc, or add others packages (in /usr/local) 14:56 < alex> oh 14:56 < rxr> oeh - we should be conforming to the fhs 14:57 < alex> what about the rest 2070-1427-24? 14:57 < daja77> except for /etc/sysconfig crap 14:57 < alex> and /opt ? 14:57 < rxr> alex: still building 14:57 < rxr> alex: what /opt ???? 14:57 < rxr> alex: you need to be exact if you want to get answers 14:57 < alex> Who puts gnome in /opt? 14:57 < alex> e.g. why? 14:58 < rxr> alex: you can change this in the Config 14:58 < rxr> I want this because I do not want to have a big mess in /usr 14:58 < alex> Ok, give me a couple of minutes... 14:58 < rxr> and this is completely fine with the FHS ... 14:58 < alex> I love stability, and I have read that Rock Linux generic installation is rock solid. \ 14:59 < alex> I also love building from source. \ 14:59 < alex> I had experience with other sourc-based linuxes (Gentoo, Sorcerer, and Onebase) \ 15:00 < alex> However, they were crap, because the weren't reliable, many packages are broken, etc. \ 15:01 < alex> Now I use NetBSD, and love it, especially pkgsrc - source based package system \ 15:01 < alex> NetBSD is also very consistent, stable, logical, etc. \ 15:02 < alex> I want to have a Linux machine using pkgsrc, and being stable. 15:02 < ChristianQt> alex: are you using the "\" like C in its #define defineme idefineyou thing? ;) 15:02 < alex> bash 15:03 < alex> So, I think that rock would help me. 15:04 < alex> The only thing that bothers me, is that in the binary distro on CDs (camp, desktop) the directory layout was kinda weird for a lhs compliant linux system. 15:04 < daja77> can you be more precise on the stuff you are telling us 15:04 < alex> So, my question is: Is it possible to use pkgsrc (and thus different directory layout) with rock? 15:05 < blindcoder> alex: okay, so you think some stuff is strange/wrong. which stuff is this that can't be configured? 15:05 < blindcoder> alex: well, in theory it's possible. Noone has tried yet I think. 15:05 < alex> The other question: How difficult is it to build a source packages not from base? 15:06 < daja77> you could start up a minimal rock and use pkgsrc on top of it, makes not much sense imo but should work 15:06 < alex> daja77, why doesn't it make much sense? 15:06 < daja77> scripts/Build-Pkg and scripts/Emerger-Pkg are easy to handle 15:07 < daja77> because you have a good build system with rock, why using a second 15:07 < daja77> + you can put packages not in tree into package management via mkpkg wrapper 15:07 < alex> daja77, Ok, but I found for myself that I need some packages that are not there. 15:08 < alex> hmm, sounds interesting... 15:08 < daja77> well, then you can easily create them or use that wrapper 15:08 < blindcoder> misc/archive/newpackage.sh and mkpkg are your friends :) 15:08 < alex> Ok. 15:08 < blindcoder> like I said, you should have a look at it directly beore asking questions ;) 15:10 < alex> I think I'll do look at it more closely at this point. 15:10 < alex> looks like I'll be able to do my own version of knoppix :) 15:11 < alex> Thank you for help. :) :) :) 15:13 < alex> NetBSD + ROCK rocks :) 15:13 < daja77> :) 15:13 < daja77> hmm i can't find the newpackage.sh 15:14 < blindcoder> daja77: should be in misc/archive but with -x IIRC 15:14 < daja77> the is only catedit.sh in misc/archive 15:14 < daja77> there 15:17 < blindcoder> hrm strange 15:21 < daja77> anyway I don't need it to create a new package ^^ 15:21 < blindcoder> hehe :) 15:22 * blindcoder --> bath 15:23 -!- ChristianQt [~konversat@pD9E39A0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 15:23 -!- ChristianQt [~konversat@pD9E39A0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:25 < netrunner> blindcoder: thanks a lot ;) 15:25 < daja77> O_o 15:31 < rxr> re 15:33 < daja77> rxr: do you mind if a send a patch which adds IBM Open License to our keyword list? 15:34 < rxr> jups send it... 15:34 < daja77> ok 15:43 < daja77> i'll send it when i have the package patch ready 15:48 -!- pieass [~se@3ffe:bc0:701:0:2a0:b0ff:fe00:1beb] has quit "leaving" 16:07 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit "I like core dumps" 16:12 -!- alex [~alex@wbar2.sea1-4-5-064-189.sea1.dsl-verizon.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 16:41 * daja77 curses a bit 16:55 < daja77> damn openafs produces shared files conflict with e2fsprogs, how should i handle that 17:00 < daja77> ok found sth, will see if that works 17:20 -!- nookie [~nookie@M271P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit "leaving" 17:21 < daja77> anybody here who has experience with sucking shared files conflicts? 17:23 -!- nookie [~nookie@M271P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 17:37 -!- scoopex [~marc@td9091b05.adsl.terralink.de] has quit Remote closed the connection 18:08 -!- nookie [~nookie@M271P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 18:10 -!- nookie [~nookie@M467P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 18:28 -!- nookie [~nookie@M467P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit "Lost terminal" 18:30 -!- nookie [~nookie@M467P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 18:30 < rxr> cu 18:30 < nookie> bye rxr 18:31 -!- [anders] [anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 18:32 < daja77> O_o 18:32 < daja77> cu later 18:36 -!- elon_ [~moep2k@pD9E77166.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:44 -!- elon [~moep2k@pD9E77166.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 19:07 -!- nookie [~nookie@M467P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit "Lost terminal" 19:30 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9502DD2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit "bing dimeout" 19:33 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAFBE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:33 -!- scoopex [~marc@td9091afd.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:33 < tcr> moin all 20:11 -!- nookie [~nookie@M467P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 20:28 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802BA0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:28 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 20:28 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [] [Tue Sep 2 15:34:51 2003] 20:28 [Users #rocklinux] 20:28 [ [anders] ] [ ChristianQt] [ fake ] [ netrunne1] [ rxr ] [ true ] 20:28 [ _spectre_ ] [ clifford ] [ hannes ] [ netrunner] [ scoopex] [ vegai] 20:28 [ Aard ] [ cytrinox`- ] [ kasc_ ] [ nookie ] [ SMP ] 20:28 [ aszlig ] [ daja77 ] [ mistik1 ] [ owl|KKH_ ] [ snyke ] 20:28 [ blindcoder] [ elon_ ] [ mnemoc ] [ praenti ] [ tcr ] 20:28 [ cchamilt ] [ esden ] [ Nebukadneza] [ rolla ] [ th ] 20:28 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 32 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 32 normal] 20:28 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug 3 22:11:35 2003 20:28 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 6 secs 20:32 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p508024C5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 20:56 -!- scoopex [~marc@td9091afd.adsl.terralink.de] has quit Remote closed the connection 21:01 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-103.arcor-ip.net] has quit "Client exiting" 21:05 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-103.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:30 -!- elon_ [~moep2k@pD9E77166.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ".." 21:31 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-103.arcor-ip.net] has quit "Client exiting" 21:33 < daja77> re 21:53 -!- vegai [~vegai@a4703-135.customer.soneraliving.fi] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 21:58 -!- vegai [~vegai@a4703-135.customer.soneraliving.fi] has joined #rocklinux 22:00 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-103.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:22 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAFBE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 23:21 < netrunne1> hi daja77 ;) 23:21 < netrunne1> what a delay 23:21 -!- You're now known as netrunner 23:21 < daja77> hehe 23:21 < daja77> can you help me with that stuff 23:25 < netrunner> renaming? 23:25 * netrunner is busy writing pages over pages for esden 23:28 < daja77> i used that method described in that rolling rock article but it didn't work 23:33 < daja77> anyway will see tomorrow or later 23:37 < netrunner> daja77: sorry, can't help you now :( 23:39 < daja77> np 23:39 < rxr> re 23:40 < rxr> 2070 builds total, 1593 completed fine, 27 with errors. 23:40 < rxr> ^- hm some trival error fixing party tomorrow ... 23:50 < cytrinox`-> gn8 23:52 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 < rxr> n8 cytrinox`- 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:53 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:54 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:54 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:54 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:54 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:54 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:54 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:54 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:54 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:54 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:54 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:54 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:54 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:54 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:54 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:54 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:54 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:54 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 23:54 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) --- Log closed Mon Nov 24 00:00:43 2003