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--- Log opened Mon Dez 01 00:00:49 2003 00:05 < jani_> ok, reading the mailing list archive, I find that rc-2 might not be 'tested' yet. what is the preferred iso to use to install rock at the moment? 00:19 < mnemoc> re 00:19 < daja77> hi mnemoc 00:19 < mnemoc> hi daja77 00:20 < daja77> mnemoc: can you help him, have to go to bed now 00:20 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit "I like core dumps" 00:21 < daja77> cu 00:21 < mnemoc> cu daja77 00:22 < mnemoc> help who? 00:23 < mnemoc> jani_? 00:23 < jani_> mnemoc, yep? 00:23 < mnemoc> what do you exactly want to do? 00:24 < jani_> i am trying to install rock, but the generic rc-2 cd's i have downloaded want to keep crashing my computer. it's a quirky compaq laptop, and the old syslinux seems to be the cause 00:24 < mnemoc> then cd1 doesn't boot on your laptop? 00:25 < jani_> i get a kernel panic on boot without the nomce option, (same as with other distros), but then my ide controller stops working (same as other distros) but the acpi=on switch doesn't fix this like it usually does 00:25 < jani_> i figure this is because cd1 does not have acpi compiled in to the kernel 00:26 < jani_> pci=biosirq doesn't seem to help either (gentoo boots with nomce pci=biosirq nousb) 00:26 < jani_> but rock doesn't 00:27 < jani_> with the nomce option the boot up freezes at Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:83 00:28 < jani_> presumably cos the ide controller has frozen (which it has, a cold reboot is necessary before it works again) 00:29 < mnemoc> maybe because of devfs 00:30 < jani_> gentoo works with devfs 00:30 < jani_> i was hoping there'd be some way to do the install from within a chroot, or something, seeing as I can boot up fedora or gentoo 00:30 < mnemoc> actualy you can install rock from any devfs bootdisk 00:30 < mnemoc> boot something with devfs 00:31 < jani_> and then? 00:31 < mnemoc> and extract '2nd_stage.tar.gz' into some directory 00:31 < mnemoc> umount cdrom 00:31 < mnemoc> mount dev and proc and chroot 00:31 < mnemoc> the run stone 00:32 < jani_> ok, i'll see how i go, i'll just dig up an old gentoo cd 00:32 < mnemoc> i did it once from a BG-Rescue disk 00:33 < mnemoc> if you have to download somethingdownload that, it's very light 00:33 < mnemoc> 2MB iirc 00:35 < jani_> ok, i'll have a loot at that, thanks. 00:35 < mnemoc> any question? i have to go now 00:35 -!- puzzled [~patrick@puzzled.xs4all.nl] has quit "Leaving" 00:36 < jani_> um... 2nd_stage.tar.gz is on the install cd? 00:36 < mnemoc> yep 00:36 < jani_> ok... so it's kinda like the gentoo install process 00:36 < jani_> i'll see how i go :) 00:36 < mnemoc> :| 00:54 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9522D1F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit "leaving" 00:56 < jani_> mnemoc, do you know if BG-Rescue has acpi support in it? 02:07 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-066-224.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 113 (No route to host) 02:10 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-066-142.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:46 < zum> hmm mm 02:59 -!- zum [jsykari@kekkonen.cs.hut.fi] has left #rocklinux ["back to lunar..."] 03:13 < mnemoc> re 03:13 < mnemoc> jani_: no idea 03:34 < jani_> mnemoc, ah well, i've managed to launch stone now, but there don't seem to be any instructions on what I'm meant to do with the menus 03:38 < mnemoc> :) 03:39 < mnemoc> create,format and mount the partitios 03:39 < mnemoc> generate fstab 03:42 < jani_> yeah, i kinda figured that. should I mount the target partitions under /mnt/target? or does that happen automatically? 03:42 < cchamilt> Hmm, mnemoc? 03:42 < mnemoc> when you mount root it mounts there 03:42 < mnemoc> cchamilt: hi 03:43 < cchamilt> I have not had time to make the tla conversion. I will give you access to my server to try if you have time. 03:44 < cchamilt> My server hasnt died in 3 weeks so I think mysql was the culprit (I moved to postgresql anyway). 03:44 < cchamilt> So it should be stable enough for general rock work. 03:45 < cchamilt> I got mythtv working last night finally. Do not buy epia-m motherboards. They are crap manufacturing quality. 03:48 < mnemoc> epia-m?? wtf is that? :| 03:50 < cchamilt> Via motherboard with the Nehemiah 10000 CPU. It comes with really crappy audio ports. 03:51 < cchamilt> It has trouble turning on, it is slow playing dvd's, but otherwise is OK. It is just quite below other manufacturers quality. 03:52 < cchamilt> It is a mini-ITX board. 03:52 < mnemoc> btw, is it true that ASRock == Asus? 03:52 < cchamilt> no idea 03:53 < mnemoc> : 03:53 < mnemoc> \ 03:58 < cchamilt> Hmm should rip cds. 03:58 < cchamilt> should try ripping a dvd soon. 04:11 -!- jani_ [~jani@ppp115-242.lns1.syd3.internode.on.net] has quit Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 04:17 < mnemoc> aarg... 04:17 < mnemoc> i fail to update xfsprogs :( 04:24 < mnemoc> do u want to try? =) 04:25 < mnemoc> gn8 * 04:27 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.224.75.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:36 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.206.245.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 05:01 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958F941.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:01 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FD06.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Nick collision from services. 05:01 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 05:06 -!- jani_ [~jani@ppp115-242.lns1.syd3.internode.on.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:07 -!- jani_ [~jani@ppp115-242.lns1.syd3.internode.on.net] has quit Client Quit 06:09 < owl> moin 07:04 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-119.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:12 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-249.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 07:33 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 07:33 < MadTux> moin 07:34 < owl> hola Miguel! 07:34 < owl> que tal? 07:43 < blindcoder> moin 07:43 < MadTux> hello all :) 07:43 < MadTux> owl: good and you ? 07:43 < blindcoder> moin MadTux 07:43 < blindcoder> moin owl 07:44 < blindcoder> MadTux: I'm now uploading the new version of LVP, although it's not officially released yet 07:44 < MadTux> blindcoder: okis 07:45 < MadTux> blindcoder: there is yet a new avm on my server go for it 07:45 < owl> MadTux: no muy bien, gracias 07:46 < owl> hi blindy 07:46 * MadTux away watching 2fast 2 furious 07:46 < owl> hehehehe. 07:46 < owl> .oO(funny movie *g*) 07:46 < MadTux> so be back later 07:46 < owl> enjoy it. bye MadTux 07:46 < MadTux> than owly 07:46 < blindcoder> MadTux: okay, ja ne 07:58 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802EB6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:58 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 07:58 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [] [Sun Aug 3 22:11:35 2003] 07:58 [Users #rocklinux] 07:58 [ [anders] ] [ clifford ] [ hannes ] [ mnemoc ] [ praenti] [ th ] 07:58 [ Aard ] [ cytrinox`] [ huebi ] [ Nebukadneza`] [ rolla ] [ WrKRobe] 07:58 [ aszlig_ ] [ daja77 ] [ kasc ] [ netrunne1 ] [ rxr ] 07:58 [ blindcoder] [ esden ] [ MadTux ] [ netrunner ] [ SMP ] 07:58 [ cchamilt ] [ fake ] [ mistik1] [ owl ] [ snyke ] 07:58 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 27 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 27 normal] 07:58 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug 3 22:11:35 2003 07:58 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 6 secs 07:59 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 08:17 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p508028F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 09:36 < daja77> moin 09:36 < blindcoder> moin moin 09:37 < daja77> hi blindy 09:39 < blindcoder> LVP 0.2.2 currently in final testing-stage 09:40 < daja77> cool 09:40 < blindcoder> Changes: 09:40 < blindcoder> - Rewrite of most scripts 09:40 < blindcoder> - Less confisung bootup 09:40 * MadTux opens eyes and listens 09:40 < blindcoder> - An Exit-Button :) 09:41 < blindcoder> - Update to latest revision of ROCK Linux 09:41 < blindcoder> EOF 09:42 < MadTux> eggcellent 09:42 < blindcoder> two hard-boiled for me :) 09:42 < blindcoder> if the current build succeeds then I'll announce it on fm][ 09:43 < daja77> hi MadTux 09:44 < blindcoder> unfortunately I am not able to shut down the system on every machine... 09:44 < blindcoder> But I have to start using initrd anyway so I can eject the CD 09:44 < daja77> systems in ram you don't have to shut down 09:44 < blindcoder> daja77: I mean shut down as in "turn off the PC" 09:45 < blindcoder> on my main machine it works with "echo o >/proc/sysrq-trigger" 09:50 < daja77> rofl https://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20031130 09:52 < blindcoder> hehe, yes :) 09:52 < blindcoder> echo "- Volume Control" >>TODO-LVP 09:54 * owl np: eisregen - bei den gräbern 09:55 < daja77> :) 09:55 < owl> hi daja77 btw 09:55 < daja77> hi owl 09:55 < owl> how are you? 09:56 < daja77> quite ok a bit sleepy 09:57 < blindcoder> daja77: btw: the thing with compiling each and every framebuffer into the kernel seems to work. I even get a framebuffer in VMWare now :) 09:57 < daja77> cool 09:58 < blindcoder> daja77: I'll have a few more tests and maybe I can go away from XFree and use directfb insted 10:00 < daja77> would be good 10:00 < blindcoder> that would easily save 100 MB on the live system :) 10:00 < blindcoder> oh, one "important" change I forgot: 10:01 < blindcoder> you can give the kernel a keymap= parameter and the corresponding .map.gz file will be loaded :) 10:03 < blindcoder> mhm the test looks fine, it just reached stage 5 10:05 < daja77> guess i will try the next release on mike's videos 10:06 < blindcoder> daja77: https://www.crash-override.net/lvp/download/lvp_automate_0.2.2.sh 10:07 < daja77> later ;-) 10:07 < blindcoder> oay :) 10:07 < blindcoder> just wanted to state that it's already there, just not linked anywhere :) 10:07 < daja77> busy day today :-( 10:07 < blindcoder> well it builds itself :) 10:08 < daja77> i know 10:08 < blindcoder> hmm... 10:08 < blindcoder> that's something I could do before this release... 10:08 < blindcoder> correct error-checking in the automate script 10:14 * daja77 off to university now 10:56 < rxr> re 10:56 < owl> hi rxr 10:56 < blindcoder> moin rxr 11:01 < rxr> ok - me off to uni ... 11:01 < rxr> patches get applied this evening ... 11:06 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has quit "Client Exiting" 11:56 -!- puzzled [~patrick@puzzled.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 11:56 < puzzled> morning 12:19 < blindcoder> fuck... 12:20 < blindcoder> Compaq Proliant's are no default ix86 arch, are they? 12:21 < puzzled> what do you mean? 12:21 < puzzled> they can be intel boxes alright but alway have extra "features" cramped on the board and maybe change some stuff to "enhance" it 12:22 < blindcoder> I mean: Do they boot a standard x86 kernel from red crap? 12:22 < puzzled> afaik yes 12:22 < puzzled> otherwise try a fedora boot thingy. it's the latest so might make it easier on newer models 12:24 < blindcoder> I can't, I need Advanced Server 2.1 12:24 < blindcoder> but it says uncompressing kernel and then just sits there 12:24 < puzzled> that comes with support doesn't it? 12:25 < puzzled> try acpi=off 12:25 < blindcoder> yes, but I'm only a consultant here and currently there is nobody else in reach whom I could kick :) 12:25 < puzzled> at the boot prompt: linux acpi=off 12:25 < blindcoder> okay, will try next time I'm down there at the test-machine. 12:26 < blindcoder> Now I'm waiting for someone to have lunch 12:26 < blindcoder> :) 12:27 < puzzled> heh 13:04 * blindcoder lunch 13:04 < owl> blindcoder = lunch ? 13:04 < owl> blindcoder != lunch 13:04 < owl> blindcoder ??? 13:17 < esden> owl = lunch; if ( owl == lunch ) { oven.insert(owl); esden.eat(over.get(owl)); if ( esden.food.was_good();) { esden.say("yummy"); } else { esden.puke() }; 13:17 < esden> C++ rulez ;) 13:19 < owl> *rofl* esden ! hi!!! 13:19 < owl> *waves* 13:20 < esden> hi owl! 13:20 * esden this.wave() 13:20 < owl> O_o 13:21 < owl> .oO(esden codes too much) 13:21 * esden { this.grin(); } 13:23 < owl> owl.say("help! esden is insane! source code junkie on drugs. S-O-S!!!!") 13:27 < blindcoder> free(esden); 13:27 < blindcoder> :) 13:27 < blindcoder> hmm 13:28 < blindcoder> free(&esden); /* ?? */ 13:28 < blindcoder> no idea :) 13:40 -!- puzzled [~patrick@puzzled.xs4all.nl] has quit "Leaving" 13:48 < esden> blindcoder: hehe ;) 13:49 * esden is thinking about overriding blindcoder's operators 13:49 < esden> ;) 13:49 < blindcoder> I have nop idea about C/C++ atm, too much bash recently >_< 13:49 -!- Amittp [Amit@202.179.67.191] has joined #rocklinux 13:50 < blindcoder> esden: do you think anyone would mind ig I announce LVP-Releases on rock-linux list? :) 13:50 < esden> blindcoder: my brain was washed with C++ during the weekend 13:50 < esden> blindcoder: you can try it ;) 13:51 < esden> I do not think that anyone would have anything against it ... it is a rocklinux based project ... no? 13:51 < esden> ok ... I look for some eyecandy for linux ... 13:51 < esden> looking at mac OS X is killing me! 13:52 < esden> I want a mac "VERFLUCHT!" 13:52 < blindcoder> esden: yes it is ROCK based 13:52 < esden> blindcoder: you see ... 13:52 < blindcoder> esden: and if 2.0.0-final isn't here before LVP 0.8 I will submit it to ROCK :) 14:00 < esden> humm ... blindcoder that is a good idea ... 14:00 < esden> I really ask myself if we will have 2.0.0 next year ... 14:02 < Amittp> do the versons really matter ? 14:02 < Amittp> or do they matter while installing from scratch? 14:04 < Amittp> I am new at this, and wondering if I should stop till 2.0.0 or go ahead with whats avaialble now? 14:06 < Amittp> are newbie questions answered here? or is this a dev channel? 14:07 < blindcoder> esden: you can and should use what is available now 14:07 < Amittp> blindcoder, is that for me? 14:07 < blindcoder> esden: Personally I just want to do my part in keeping the "Feature Freeze" 14:07 < blindcoder> ARGL 14:07 < blindcoder> Amittp: yes, sorry, ELUSER here >_< 14:07 < mnemoc> re 14:08 < blindcoder> Amittp: we don't have a distinction between dev-channel and user-channel. Everyone is welcome here :) 14:08 < Amittp> blindcoder, please help me with one more thing. for installation from cd, i could only get acces to binary cds 14:09 < Amittp> i was under impression that we have to build on our own 14:10 < Amittp> is there a different bootable cd which holds just the helping scripts? and tarballs? 14:10 < owl> bye 14:10 < mnemoc> bye owl 14:10 < Amittp> hooot hooot 14:12 < mnemoc> Amittp: currently we only provide that binary cd 14:13 < mnemoc> anything else you have to do it downloading the last snapshot of rock and the download the required tarball from one of owr mirrors 14:14 < blindcoder> you can build ROCK on your own, bu you don't have to 14:14 < blindcoder> Amittp: you can download the scripts via subversion 14:14 < Amittp> hmm 14:15 < Amittp> and its better to get binary cd than building our own rock? 14:15 < mnemoc> building your own is better 14:16 < Amittp> mnemoc, can you please suggest me how to go about it? i am getting bit lost in handbook 14:16 < blindcoder> GNARF! CDE SUCKS! 14:16 < mnemoc> you need a devfs based linux 14:16 < blindcoder> I just logged myself out by accident 14:17 < Amittp> like lfs? u need linux installed before? 14:17 < mnemoc> update it and install subversion 14:17 < mnemoc> Amittp: yes 14:17 < Amittp> mnemoc, Oh! 14:18 < Amittp> any pointers n this, my hdd is partitioned already, i want to replace existing linux 14:18 < Amittp> anyway to do it without making new partitions? 14:21 < blindcoder> how is it partitioned? 14:21 < mnemoc> fix your current linux to support devfs, and build rock there 14:21 < Amittp> mnemoc, i have devfs support 14:22 < Amittp> 2 hda1/2 primary win partitions 14:22 < Amittp> hda3 primary boot 14:22 < Amittp> hda6-> root/ hda 7 -> home 14:23 < blindcoder> I see no problem with this 14:23 < blindcoder> as long as you have a few gigs free space you can build it 14:24 < Amittp> the linu partitions are already occupied by other distro 14:25 < blindcoder> hmm.... then you won't have any luck 14:25 < blindcoder> you need roughly 5 GB free hard disk space 14:25 < Amittp> but do need diff partitions? 14:25 < Amittp> like lfs ? 14:25 < Amittp> or ohh, can i use some livecd with devfs support? 14:26 < Amittp> i thinki can use that! anyone has tried it? 14:26 < blindcoder> you don't need different partitions, you can kludge all your / onto one partition 14:26 < blindcoder> I think it has been done, but we don't have a LiveBuildCD right now 14:27 < Amittp> no using different livecd 14:27 < Amittp> blindcoder, the kludging i have never tried thats where i need help 14:28 < blindcoder> Amittp: it's no different from installing onto different partitions, but I can help you there :) 14:29 < blindcoder> brb 14:29 < Amittp> blindcoder, i am not underastnding that if i use same partition , from where im installing with help of other linux, wont it break everything 14:29 < Amittp> excuse my english plz 14:33 < blindcoder> oh, now I see what you are trying to do 14:34 < blindcoder> do you have a CD-Writer? 14:34 < Amittp> yes 14:34 < blindcoder> then why not just building ROCK, writing it to a CD and install it from there? 14:35 < Amittp> blindcoder, i didntget you ? 14:36 < Amittp> what do i write to cd? 14:36 < blindcoder> you build ROCK on your current system, then write it to a CD, boot it and install ROCK from there 14:37 < blindcoder> Amittp: ROCK has a few scripts that will do this for you: 14:37 < blindcoder> Amittp: ./scripts/Config --> configures thesystem you want to have 14:38 < blindcoder> Amittp: ./scripts/Download --> downloads all sources you need for building your configured system 14:38 < blindcoder> Amittp: ./scripts/Build-Target --> Builds your configured system 14:38 < blindcoder> Amittp: ./scripts/Create-ISO --> creates some CD-Images with which you can install your ROCK System 14:38 < blindcoder> and that's about it 14:39 < blindcoder> or maybe I just don't get your prsblem 14:39 < Amittp> blindcoder, :) 14:39 < Amittp> u r right i guess u solved my problem 14:40 < blindcoder> Amittp: if not, feel free to ask again 14:40 < Amittp> ok one last trival doubt, this build system, that wont be bootable without writig to system right? 14:41 < Amittp> that is for getting on cd only ? 14:41 < Amittp> writing to cd i mean not system.. :D 14:42 < blindcoder> Amittp: hte You have to build two systems. One bootdisk-system which will handle the installation process and booting the CD 14:42 < blindcoder> Amittp: and the system you want to have 14:43 < Amittp> ok :) 14:43 < Amittp> much much clear what to do now 14:44 < blindcoder> :) 14:44 < Amittp> and this is without breaking my existing system :) 14:44 < Amittp> or making new partition.. :) phew! 14:44 < Amittp> thankls for cnnecting missing pieces from handbook 14:45 < Amittp> or rather distributed pieces 14:45 < blindcoder> no problem 14:53 < Amittp> i just found everything you said in docdir lol. 14:54 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-119.arcor-ip.net] has quit "Client exiting" 14:56 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-119.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:00 < cytrinox`> moin 15:00 < mnemoc> moin cytrinox` 15:01 -!- elon [~moep2k@pD9E7760F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:03 < elon> hi all 15:03 < Amittp> hi 15:04 -!- cytrinox` is now known as cytrinox 15:06 < Amittp> blindcoder, on 2Ghz, 512 mb ram, what will be the build time? roughly? 15:07 < blindcoder> for a generic target with Rebuild Stage: some 5 days 15:07 < blindcoder> without rebuild stage: about 50 hours 15:07 < rolla> re 15:10 < Amittp> blindcoder, rebuild? 15:11 < Amittp> I am not looking at right place or is this information not included in handbook yet? 15:12 < blindcoder> Amittp: Rebuild is Stage 9 15:15 < Amittp> :) bye will start now :) 15:16 < Amittp> ty blindcoder 15:16 -!- Amittp [Amit@202.179.67.191] has quit "Leaving" 15:23 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 15:23 < MadTux> re 15:24 < mnemoc> wb MadTux 15:24 < blindcoder> wb MadTux 15:24 < MadTux> hello mnemoc and blindy 15:24 < blindcoder> alright, I'm leaving for today 15:24 < MadTux> blindcoder: mm... 15:24 < blindcoder> have a meeting with a new client today 15:24 < MadTux> bc ok.. you back later>? 15:24 < blindcoder> ja ne 15:25 < MadTux> oyasumi nasai. 15:25 < blindcoder> MadTux: hmm, don't know, maybe in 7 hours, no way to be back earlier 15:25 < MadTux> blindcoder: i guess i will be around then 15:25 < blindcoder> MadTux: depends if I spend the night in Munich or at home 15:26 < MadTux> in case you don't come back, lots of fun :) 15:26 < blindcoder> so we'll see 15:26 < blindcoder> gotta go now 15:26 < blindcoder> MadTux: thanks :) 15:26 < MadTux> cya 15:26 < blindcoder> bye 15:38 -!- WrKRobe [robe@das.geizhals.buero.ist.geiler.at] has quit Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) 15:39 < daja77> re 15:39 < MadTux> hello daja77 15:41 < daja77> hello MadTux 15:42 < MadTux> daja77: so got sonne? 15:42 < daja77> yep 15:42 < MadTux> daja77: gut so i remove it from my server 15:43 < daja77> hm why 15:45 < MadTux> because i don't want people eating my bandwidth with this kind of stuff 15:45 < daja77> hehe ok sorry 15:46 < MadTux> daja77: i make exceptions with you and blindy 15:46 -!- _spectre_ [nvbwcx@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:46 < rolla> yawn 15:47 < daja77> hi rolla, long time no see 15:52 < rolla> yeah it was holiday here 15:52 < daja77> cool 15:52 < daja77> how many turkeys you had? *gg* 15:52 < rolla> yeah I got sick so it sucked 15:52 < rolla> daja77: do you germans have anything like this? 15:53 < daja77> so today's userfriendly ^^ 15:53 < daja77> nope 15:53 < daja77> the pilgrims were from england ^^ 15:53 < rolla> well I know but maybe there was a like holiday that you guys have 15:54 < rolla> also the pilgrims left from holland not UK 15:54 < daja77> holland, hmm ok, there were some uk fanatics who moved to america too 15:56 < rolla> yes they left UK and went to holland 15:56 < rolla> but they were tired of relegious freedom there and wanted to be the only religion so they left and came here 15:57 < MadTux> hello's rolla 15:57 < rolla> but they don't teach that here. We must have the high and mighty version of it. 15:57 < rolla> hallo MadTux 15:57 < MadTux> rolla: really nice to see here, its been a while 15:57 < rolla> daja77: you must remember history is written by the victor's 15:57 < rolla> ja 15:59 * rolla smiles it is good to be back 16:00 < MadTux> its good to see you back :) 16:01 < daja77> i even heard from a small group from the erzgebirge who moved to america 16:01 < rolla> daja77: ? 16:01 < rolla> germans? 16:02 < daja77> yes 16:02 < daja77> the founded a village somewhere in the midwest, but i forgot the name 16:03 < daja77> they 16:03 < daja77> brb 16:03 < rolla> :) 16:22 * daja77 fixing samba server :( 16:23 * daja77 needs blindy's spammerassasin now 16:29 < daja77> anynody knows if 2.4.23 is already in trunk? 16:32 < mnemoc> no it's not 16:32 < mnemoc> it will be on rc5 :) 16:32 < daja77> d'oh 16:33 < MadTux> daja77: 2.4.24 will be out in a few weeks anyways.. 16:34 < mnemoc> bad release? 16:34 < daja77> this sucks 16:35 < MadTux> mnemoc: no, last relase allowing featurews, drivers etc additions 16:35 < MadTux> 2.4.25 will consist of ONLY fixes 16:38 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:38 < jsaw> hello everybody 16:38 < daja77> hi jsaw 16:39 < jsaw> it's been a long time (...) 16:39 < jsaw> hi daja77 16:39 < MadTux> hello jsaw 16:39 < mnemoc> hi jsaw 16:40 < jsaw> hi^2 16:42 < jsaw> anybody around who want's to update xine+libs (I don't understand the build errors)? 17:05 < daja77> yawn 17:13 < mnemoc> aarg.. xfsprogs is damn hard to update :( 17:18 < jsaw> :) 17:19 < daja77> we could add rtai to that hard to update list 17:23 < mnemoc> :) 17:29 -!- WrKRobe [robe@das.geizhals.buero.ist.geiler.at] has joined #rocklinux 17:29 < WrKRobe> gna. 17:29 < MadTux> greetings WrKRobe 17:30 < WrKRobe> hola. 17:30 < MadTux> how are ya? 17:30 < WrKRobe> normal, I guess 17:30 < MadTux> WrKRobe: so got rely from cliff? 17:30 < WrKRobe> ya 17:30 < WrKRobe> is gds.tuwien.ac.at the main mirror for the rsync files? 17:30 < MadTux> gut :) 17:30 < MadTux> yups 17:30 < WrKRobe> argl... 17:31 < WrKRobe> this is going to be fun. 17:31 < WrKRobe> receiving file list ... 17:31 < WrKRobe> 2700 files... 17:31 < WrKRobe> (started it 5 minutes ago) 17:31 < MadTux> :) 17:32 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has quit "Client Exiting" 17:36 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 17:44 < daja77> have we changed the init scripts recently? 17:44 < mnemoc> i think not 17:46 < mnemoc> welll rocknet 17:46 < daja77> ah k. don't worryx 17:48 < daja77> the .init file is a template for the later script, right? 17:48 < mnemoc> yep 17:48 < mnemoc> m4 sth 17:50 < mnemoc> i have a misc/initstyles i want to introduce in 2.1 17:51 * mnemoc hates sysvinit :) 17:51 * daja77 too 17:51 < mnemoc> i use runit, what do you use? 17:52 < daja77> i use sysv atm, wanted to try minit sometime 17:55 < mnemoc> i like readonlyness of minit 17:55 < jsaw> cu l8r 17:55 < mnemoc> cu jsaw 17:56 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit "Client Exiting" 18:11 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1CC56.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:14 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has quit "Client Exiting" 18:28 * daja77 stupid 18:30 < rolla> what? 18:31 * daja77 rm -rf his mozilla lib dir 18:31 * daja77 trying to build a flash-plugin package 18:32 < daja77> well good point to ugrade mozilla *sigh* 18:42 -!- __spectre__ [vvpnjvf@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:42 -!- _spectre_ [nvbwcx@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 18:49 -!- ChristianQt [~konversat@pD9E3983A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:07 -!- elon [~moep2k@pD9E7760F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ".." 19:09 < mnemoc> daja77: some stupid person i know closely once decided that alias rm='rm -rf' was a good idea 19:11 < daja77> ahem what a moron 19:11 < daja77> anyway flash-plugin patch send 19:12 < esden> re hi all 19:13 < daja77> hi esden 19:13 < mnemoc> wb esden 19:13 * esden sitting in front of a 21" monitor of a mac G4 with two 2Ghz processors .... 19:13 < esden> that is neat ;) 19:14 < daja77> hehe you try rock on it? 19:14 < mnemoc> ram? 19:14 < esden> 8GB DDR RAM 19:14 < mnemoc> :o 19:14 < daja77> wow 19:14 < esden> hehe *GG* 19:14 < esden> sadly it is not mine 19:14 * mnemoc falls down the chair 19:14 < esden> no I do not try to rock it ... 19:15 < esden> here is already a very nice operating system running ;) 19:15 * daja77 helps mnemoc up 19:15 < mnemoc> thank you daja 19:15 < esden> poor mnemoc 19:16 < esden> I wait for "my" baby ... it will be even more neat then that box 19:16 < esden> this one is a very nice dvd ripping machine 19:16 < daja77> tell us more 19:16 < esden> but not for number crunching ;) 19:17 < esden> dual opteron with 32GB RAM 19:17 < esden> erm ... quad opteron sorry 19:17 < daja77> hmm we should do rock builds on it ^^ 19:17 < mnemoc> absolutly 19:17 < esden> hehe ... sure ... I will install rock on it ... do not worry ;) 19:17 < daja77> :) 19:18 < esden> and do compile performance tests ;) 19:20 < daja77> and opteron port ... 19:20 * mnemoc has a p3/766 at home and rocks on a p2/350 :( 19:21 < esden> daja77: ack 19:21 < esden> mnemoc: I use a 1.2 GHz machine for rock at home ... 19:21 < esden> with 512 ram ... that is not so fast ... 19:22 < mnemoc> faster than mine 19:22 * netrunne1 *yawns* 19:22 -!- You're now known as netrunner 19:22 < daja77> wb netrunner 19:22 < netrunner> esden: poser 19:22 < daja77> netrunner: he has always been one, so don't worry 19:23 < netrunner> daja77: wouldn't have noticed that ;) 19:23 < daja77> ^^ 19:23 < esden> netrunner: :P 19:23 -!- __spectre__ [vvpnjvf@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 19:23 -!- _spectre_ [yhnsbobd@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:23 < netrunner> esden: 'still got your key had it with me even today. ask me next time I wear my backpack its in there 19:23 < esden> daja77: hehe ... you are right ;) 19:23 < esden> netrunner: *sigh* I will try ;) 19:24 < netrunner> esden: next chance wednesday 19:26 < esden> netrunner: yes ... 19:30 < esden> ahh ... good now I also have music ;) 19:30 < esden> now ... povray for mac os X 19:31 < daja77> povray, hmm thought i read of build errors ... 19:34 -!- xilanium [~xilanium@d213-103-41-16.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #rocklinux 19:36 < daja77> hi xilanium 19:36 < esden> xilanium? o_O 19:36 < xilanium> hi 19:37 < esden> ahh ... ups ...the terminal behaves strange ... 19:37 < esden> hi xilanium 19:38 < daja77> hehe no nice term on apple? 19:42 < daja77> anyway /me off to party now 19:42 < daja77> cu 19:47 < esden> cu daja77 19:49 -!- gusa [~gusa@ua132d108.elisa.omakaista.fi] has joined #rocklinux 19:52 < rxr> re 19:53 < mnemoc> hi rxr 19:57 < esden> hi rxr 19:57 -!- fake [~fake@f4k3.net] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 19:59 < esden> cu all 20:08 < rxr> cu esden 20:10 -!- gusa [~gusa@ua132d108.elisa.omakaista.fi] has left #rocklinux ["Client Exiting"] 20:23 -!- xilanium [~xilanium@d213-103-41-16.cust.tele2.fr] has left #rocklinux ["Client Exiting"] 20:36 < blindcoder> mplayer is fucked up in rev 1888 20:40 -!- xilanium [~xilanium@d213-103-41-16.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #rocklinux 20:47 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB7A3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:49 < tcr> moin all 20:50 < blindcoder> moin moin 20:50 < blindcoder> ah, there's the problem 20:50 < blindcoder> --enable-live breaks mplayer 20:52 < blindcoder> ARGL 20:52 < blindcoder> WTF??? 20:52 < blindcoder> this cries for a patch... 21:06 < blindcoder> rxr: ping 21:11 < rxr> pong 21:11 < rxr> blindcoder: avm added this ... 21:12 < rxr> blindcoder: could you take a look what is wrong with it 21:12 < rxr> ? 21:12 < rxr> please 21:14 < blindcoder> rxr: I already sent the patch 21:14 < blindcoder> rxr: could you apply it so that I can use the revision in the next release of LVP? 21:15 < rxr> hm 21:15 < rxr> rene@idefix:~$ du -B 1 /usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot.rs6k 21:15 < rxr> 94208 /usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot.rs6k 21:15 < rxr> rene@idefix:~$ du -B 1 --apparent-size /usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot.rs6k 21:15 < rxr> 153308 /usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot.rs6k 21:15 < rxr> why the heck does this bootloader has sparce holess ?!?!? 21:15 < rxr> blindcoder: yes - sson 21:16 < rxr> soon even 21:16 < blindcoder> rxr: okay *hugs* :) 21:17 < blindcoder> okay, LVP now builds and I am happy :) 21:17 < blindcoder> good night everyone! 21:19 < mnemoc> good night blindcoder 21:19 < rxr> n8 blindcoder 21:25 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 21:40 < rxr> me rsyncing and burning the first RS/6k blessed CD 21:48 < MadTux> rxr: nice :) 21:49 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 21:50 < rxr> MadTux: I think we will be the first Linux dist with bootable CDs for the rs6k ;-) 21:50 < rxr> I have not found anything for rs6k and cd boot stuff 21:50 < rxr> just floppy creation hints ... ;-) 21:50 < A-Tui> hi all 21:56 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1CC56.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 113 (No route to host) 21:56 < rxr> hi A-Tui 21:56 < A-Tui> hi rxr 21:56 < A-Tui> it's snowing :) 22:06 * A-Tui is away: cenando.... 22:30 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB7A3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit "Leaving" 22:31 < xilanium> by looking at the 2.0.0-rc2 ISOs, I'm wondering if the first ISO has got at the necessary stuff to get a minimal system (shell+build chain) to start with ? 22:31 * A-Tui is back (gone 00:25:14) 22:53 -!- xilanium [~xilanium@d213-103-41-16.cust.tele2.fr] has left #rocklinux ["Client Exiting"] 22:55 < MadTux> rxr: really nice, i'm proud 22:56 -!- puzzled [~patrick@puzzled.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 22:59 < rxr> hm - ok just found some strange debian CDs might also boot ... 23:00 < rxr> anyway a RS/6k bootable CD would be nice ... 23:00 < rxr> the current code does not yet work - the OF claims: 23:00 < MadTux> rxr: sure it would 23:00 < rxr> Unable to load PReP image 23:00 < rxr> (which is more then it did some days ago) 23:00 < rxr> now I test with AIX if the B50 should really boot binary code in the form I currenty offer it ... 23:01 < rxr> but shortly off for a bath 23:03 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: aszlig_ 23:04 -!- Netsplit over, joins: aszlig_ 23:05 < puzzled> rxr: thanks anyway for trying to put it together 23:24 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: aszlig_ 23:24 -!- Netsplit over, joins: aszlig_ 23:29 < rxr> puzzled: this is not the end ... 23:29 < rxr> puzzled: I continue this ... 23:31 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-135.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:35 < rxr> puzzled: see querry? 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