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--- Log opened Die Dez 09 00:00:14 2003 00:06 -!- dev0 [tobias@p508A5C48.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 00:19 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 00:19 < MadTux> re 00:19 < A-Tui> re MadTux 00:20 < MadTux> Aitor :) 00:20 < mnemoc> re * 00:21 < MadTux> H! mnemocy 00:21 < mnemoc> hi mike1 00:21 < MadTux> Mike1? where? 00:21 < MadTux> : 00:21 < MadTux> :) 00:22 < MadTux> mnemoc: query 00:24 < mnemoc> anybody knows about clipper-like linux compilers? xharbour, harbour, .ru's clip? 00:26 < rxr> hm? 00:28 -!- nookie [~nookie@M377P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 00:28 < mnemoc> have you experienced any of them? 00:28 < mnemoc> heard something? 00:33 -!- nookie [~nookie@M315P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 00:38 < rxr> mnemoc: nope - I just wondered about that names ... ;-) 00:44 -!- hannes [~hannes@pD902AB34.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:01 -!- hannes [~hannes@pD902AB34.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit "Lost terminal" 01:11 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 01:11 < rxr> netrunner: are you awake ? 01:11 < jsaw> hi all 01:11 < rxr> or anyone else that tried the 2.4 01:11 < rxr> ah hi jsaw 01:11 < jsaw> running 2.4.23... 01:12 < rxr> coudld you email me your i2c patch ? 01:12 < rxr> I mean the i2c tarball you downloaded ... 01:12 < jsaw> that's the one with the download url from my patch 01:12 < jsaw> ah, 01:12 < jsaw> you mean the cksum errors, 01:12 < jsaw> yes, when I get home. 01:13 < rxr> oehm - not handy? 01:13 < rxr> ok - I use my good old make a -rxr patch habbit 01:13 < jsaw> me is in the lab, but wait a couple of seconds... 01:13 < rxr> I think I need to throw in PPC fixes later anyway ... 01:14 < rxr> I have "soem patch" where only one chunk does not apply ... 01:16 < jsaw> rxr: patch sent to your geemx address 01:17 < jsaw> (can't post to the ml, 'cause outgoing sender addresses are rewritten here at the institute :( 01:18 < A-Tui> bye all 01:18 * A-Tui is away: dreamming,.... 01:19 < jsaw> cu 01:22 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit "Terminando cliente" 01:24 < rxr> jsaw: ok - thanks 01:26 < jsaw> btw, rocknet, besides some small errors: /me loves it 01:26 < jsaw> but now, who is going to make the pppoe module? 01:26 < rxr> jsaw: the one who asks ;-) 01:26 < rxr> I do the STONE module ... 01:27 < jsaw> btw, can we live without isa-autodetection for rc4? If so, I suggest making a new release for rockplug (even if it's damned slow currently...) 01:27 < mnemoc> i'll use them both :) 01:27 < jsaw> hi mnemoc! 01:28 < mnemoc> hi jsaw 01:28 < rxr> jsaw: yes we can live without it ... 01:28 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 01:28 < rxr> jsaw: I now have the first firewire device - and I might get a second one ... 01:29 < rxr> and I will also take a look into rockplug and the isa code ... - my free tiem of this week is finally dedicated to it ... 01:29 < jsaw> oh, this reminds me of the linux24 package again. Have you had a chance to look into fs/Config.in (devfs disabled for 64bit)? :((( 01:30 < rxr> jups - I rediffed the patch ... 01:30 < jsaw> which in turn reminds me of getting the linux 2.6 sysfs stuff straight for rockplug, ... 01:30 < rxr> but DevFS works fine on my UltraSPARC 5 - it is not a 64 bit problem alone 01:31 < jsaw> only x86_64 01:31 < rxr> maybe compiler bug or so - if AMD or SuSE or whoever gives me an Opeteron I'll track it ... 01:31 < rxr> jsaw: yeah I read it ... 01:32 < rxr> ok 2.4.23 kernel build now starting to pass the first extract and patching phase ... 01:32 < jsaw> we need some expert PR guy, that will get more hardware for us... 01:33 < rxr> hey cool "David Dawes" applied the XFree86 patch in the same night I submited it - maybe I finally got into his inbox filter? ;-) 01:34 < jsaw> :) 01:34 < rxr> jsaw: I have a AMD card in my desk - but I want to fix this: 01:34 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/service/regtest/arch-x86_64/ 01:34 < rxr> before I contact them ... 01:34 < rxr> and my iBook is just running a new x86_64 cross build just because of this ;-) 01:36 < jsaw> good! still, I wouldn't mind having some pro for business relations in the team... 01:36 * jsaw :-! 01:36 < rxr> jsaw: if you know one that wants to work in a OpenSource project, no problem ;-) 01:37 < rxr> hm, this: 01:37 < rxr> x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-ld -m elf_i386 -Ttext 0x100000 -o bvmlinux head.o misc.o piggy.o 01:37 < rxr> x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-ld: warning: i386:x86-64 architecture of input file `misc.o' is incompatible with i386 output 01:37 < rxr> make[2]: *** [bvmlinux] Segmentation fault (core dumped) 01:37 < rxr> seems to be a real linker or compiler bug - it happens on both x86 hosts and PowerPC hosts during a x86_64 kernel cross build ... 01:38 < rxr> but I need to go into bed in some minutes ... 01:38 < mnemoc> :-\ 01:51 < jsaw> re, oki, sleep well, rxr 01:51 < jsaw> mnemoc: you installed rockplug from svn? 01:51 < rxr> cu all - n8 01:54 < mnemoc> jsaw: not yet :( 01:55 < mnemoc> no much time this week 01:57 < jsaw> oh, "time". Don't remember me of that word. 02:01 < mnemoc> you are physician, for you that has a very different meaning ;) 02:06 < jsaw> hehe 02:06 < jsaw> I guess it's a typo due to language interference, out of curiosity, what's physician and what's physicist in spanish? 02:09 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 02:09 < MadTux> re 02:09 < MadTux> ping mnemoc 02:10 < mnemoc> pong 02:10 < MadTux> :) 02:10 < MadTux> query 02:10 < jsaw> hi MadTux 02:11 < MadTux> jsaw: hello 02:11 < MadTux> jsaw: status on gnome? 02:12 < jsaw> with the previous patches sent, plus another one waiting for pygtk: very good. 02:13 < jsaw> A few rough edges remain. But these are related to stupid implementation... oh, no, I shouldn't say that - but /me never errs :) 02:14 < MadTux> lol 02:14 < MadTux> wait a minute 02:15 < MadTux> does this have anything to do with my previous work? 02:15 < jsaw> nope. Stuff like evolution-alarm-notify or multiload-applet crashing on exit etc... 02:16 < jsaw> metacity not really doing what it is expected to 02:16 < jsaw> (obviously is doesn't copy with xrandr really well) etc etc etc 02:16 < jsaw> s/copy/cope/ 02:16 < MadTux> ah yeah 02:17 < jsaw> but /me likes rhythmbox! (oh, sound-juicer is also not doing fine, btw) 02:19 < MadTux> mm.. so well i am getting my last minimal iso to create myself a new _working_ system to get back into devel, so by monday or so i should be able to give you a hand, of course you are now the maintainer so i'll have to deal with ur rejects and so :) 02:21 < jsaw> This would be awesome. I'm pretty overworked. And I should polish rockplug a bit more. I'll send you my diffs for gnome24 in case it'll take longer for rxr to submit it. 02:21 < MadTux> jsaw: see query for my mail addy 02:21 < mnemoc> jsaw: do you plan to move rockplug to binary or not? 02:23 < jsaw> First I have to get the logic straight. But yes, I do plan to move to binary (based on diethotplug+klibc etc.) sooner or later. 02:43 -!- puzzled [~patrick@puzzled.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 02:55 -!- puzzled [~patrick@puzzled.xs4all.nl] has left #rocklinux ["Leaving"] 03:32 < mnemoc> *yawn* 03:35 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-065-110.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 113 (No route to host) 03:59 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-065-107.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:12 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1CBD0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 04:30 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit "Client Exiting" 04:34 -!- cytrinox` [~dj-nail@p213.54.217.67.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:42 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail@p213.54.247.41.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 05:01 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p3EE1E273.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:11 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-065-107.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 05:11 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-065-107.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:51 -!- demian [trilluser@196.40.64.205] has joined #rocklinux 05:52 < demian> hi 05:52 < MadTux> hello debian 05:52 < MadTux> traitor. 05:53 < demian> MadTux.. traitor ? 05:53 < demian> hi first of all 05:53 < MadTux> change the god damn font color. 05:53 < MadTux> please. 05:56 < mnemoc> blue is better than pink ;) 05:57 < MadTux> mnemoc: well now he switched to black.. 05:57 < MadTux> grrr.. 06:22 < tobias> Trillian v0.741 <- 06:22 < mnemoc> what is that 1 doing there? 06:22 < tobias> not sure 06:23 < mnemoc> i have an f :) 06:23 < tobias> wanting an easy to install Lunix di1str0!! 06:24 < demian> hehe.. sorry 06:24 < demian> got to work 06:25 < demian> cya 06:25 -!- demian [trilluser@196.40.64.205] has left #rocklinux [] 06:25 < mnemoc> tobias: do u ctcp version everyone? 06:36 < tobias> no 06:36 -!- tobias is now known as dev0 06:37 < dev0> my own CTCP version is pretty embarassing too :B 06:38 < mnemoc> :) 06:46 < dev0> hey... 06:46 < dev0> at least it's not Trillian :B 06:51 * mnemoc wonders what is worse mirc or trillian 06:52 < mnemoc> 'war' scripted mirc is worse 06:52 < dev0> NoNameScript .. haha 06:52 < dev0> QuakeNet kiddies 06:53 < mnemoc> at least trillian is _clean_ :) 06:54 < dev0> clean but colorful 06:54 < mnemoc> and means he doesn't use msn messenger 06:54 < dev0> Trillian supports MSN afaik 06:54 < mnemoc> yes 06:55 < mnemoc> but he choose to use another client 06:55 < mnemoc> not messenger 06:55 < dev0> okay 06:55 < mnemoc> :-\ 06:55 < dev0> people using Messenger are smoking too much crack anyway 06:56 < dev0> But there's a better oss alternative in the form of Miranda available... 06:57 < mnemoc> much time has passed since last time i saw miranda 07:05 < MadTux> hi dev0 07:05 < MadTux> dev0: hpw did you go with the isos? 07:06 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-020.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:06 < MadTux> mnemoc: i'm back 07:22 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-067.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 113 (No route to host) 07:35 < mnemoc> *yawn* 07:36 < MadTux> mnemoc: stop jawning, we need you to be more productive, code! 07:39 < mnemoc> :) 07:40 < MadTux> still here!?! 07:40 < MadTux> go code damn it! 07:40 < MadTux> this lazy geeks.. 07:40 < mnemoc> :\ 07:41 < mnemoc> ^ADD 07:43 < MadTux> grr!!! 07:43 < MadTux> :P 07:44 < blindcoder> moin 07:44 < mnemoc> moin nakedcoder 07:45 < blindcoder> ehm... 07:45 < MadTux> hi blindy 07:45 < blindcoder> I don't think being naked would be advantageous where I am right now 07:45 < blindcoder> moin mnemoc, hi MadTux 07:47 < netrunner> blindcoder: no, please don't ... nooo! ... aahrg 07:47 < netrunner> :/ 07:48 < MadTux> netrunner: he is willing to get naked, run is you don't want to loose ur eyes 07:49 * MadTux runs like hell away from blindy 07:49 * netrunner hides behind a ROCK 07:50 < MadTux> nety he will find u.. run 07:50 < blindcoder> I am _NOT_ naked! 07:51 < MadTux> and you think we will wait till you are?! 07:52 < blindcoder> I will _NOT_ undress in front of any of you! (well, on 20C3 perhaps before slipping into my sleeping bag, but other than that... ) 07:52 < MadTux> NOTE: do not stay at nights at 20c3 07:53 < blindcoder> hrhrr 07:53 * netrunner walks afraid to work 07:53 < MadTux> netrunner: oh yeah owl is getting a driver license, so also walk afraid.. ph34r! 07:53 < blindcoder> netrunner: will you come past Tucherpark? 08:07 < blindcoder> narf 08:07 < blindcoder> Cleanup -full _really_ should have a safety net of some kind >_< 08:09 < mnemoc> blindcoder: again??? 08:10 * mnemoc making plasma-coffee 08:11 < blindcoder> mnemoc: yes... 08:11 < blindcoder> in bash: ^Rnocheck<enter> 08:11 < blindcoder> too bad that there was a -full after -nocheck >_< 08:15 < blindcoder> but I've been able to get my Linksys WLAN Card up and running with ndiswrapper :) 08:19 -!- nookie [~nookie@M315P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit Client Quit 08:22 < mnemoc> if i write a feature for adding interactiveness to Cleanup -full that blindsomething will kill me 08:23 < MadTux> mnemoc: i warned you before, blindy and i will hunt you till the end of the world if you try to add features before a stable release 08:23 -!- nookie [~nookie@M385P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 08:23 < MadTux> well actually you live in the end of the world right? 08:23 < MadTux> *g* 08:23 < mnemoc> :| 08:23 < MadTux> just kidding man :) 08:24 < mnemoc> :) 08:25 -!- _spectre_ [jmokzm@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has quit "Client Exiting" 08:28 < blindcoder> actually, I really might kick rene to apply this thing BERFORE 2.0-final 08:29 < blindcoder> <div logic="twisted">since it is not a feature but a catastrophe prevenetion mechanism</div> 08:29 < mnemoc> :) 08:30 < mnemoc> blindcoder: take it positive, now you will start a clean-build with 2.4.23 :) 08:30 -!- spectre [kjtxlip@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:30 < blindcoder> mnemoc: no, since it is not sure if 2.4.23 compiles now 08:31 < mnemoc> cross your fingers :) and if fails remove i2c-rene for patchfiles :) 08:31 < blindcoder> I just need a minimal system on my machine until 2.0-final is here *snif* 08:32 < blindcoder> ah well, I'll build generic so thast I can do Update-System :) 08:32 < MadTux> blindcoder: i am building minimal atm 08:32 < MadTux> maybe you will wanna have it after i finish my build 08:32 < MadTux> mnemoc: yes i will give you the iso 08:33 < mnemoc> i do not use sysvinit so i'll not use your dirty iso 08:33 < MadTux> its up to you 08:33 < mnemoc> :) 08:33 < MadTux> :) 08:34 < MadTux> i was just trying to be generous 08:34 < mnemoc> you can share it for ppl who wants to start rocking ;) 08:34 < mnemoc> a shell can be very generous ;) 08:34 < MadTux> mnemoc: well this is more like for my personal use as i need a really a good system to make vROCK work :) 08:34 < mnemoc> after my last hw update i take 4 hours for building linux26 08:35 < MadTux> 4 hours 0_o 08:35 < MadTux> i told ya shell will be available as soon as cluster is ready a worthy box :) 08:35 < mnemoc> vROCK, i'll send THE BIG FSCKING INTRUSIVE PATCH tomorrow morning 08:36 < MadTux> mnemoc: cc to me please 08:37 < MadTux> then run away cause blindy will go after ur head 08:37 < mnemoc> you will get it from HEAD ;) 08:37 < blindcoder> mnemoc: I will urge rene to ignore it :) 08:37 < mnemoc> i'll silence you before 08:38 < blindcoder> try if you can 08:39 < mnemoc> is that a challenge? 08:39 < MadTux> am i supposed to get a side? 08:39 < blindcoder> you can take it as one 08:39 < blindcoder> MadTux: no, just some popcorn :) 08:40 < MadTux> hehe 08:40 * MadTux woinders if his opinion is worth something anymore 08:40 < mnemoc> i'll take the first concorde to there 08:40 < blindcoder> ehm... the concorde doesn't fly anymore, so are you trying to let me die of old age? 08:41 * mnemoc thinking 08:41 < mnemoc> ok, i'll let you live. this time 08:41 < blindcoder> *phew* I'm saved :) 08:43 < mnemoc> but remember, if you try to get an stable release before 2007 you will not live to see the grandchildren of your granchildren married 08:43 < mnemoc> and that's a promise 08:43 < blindcoder> oh, I'll handle that like fliying. 08:43 < blindcoder> I'll take care of the landing once I'm down :) 08:44 < mnemoc> ok 08:45 < mnemoc> be carefull 08:45 < mnemoc> and please, don't code naked anymore 08:46 < blindcoder> okay, I will :( 08:47 < MadTux> so i am off 08:47 < MadTux> n8 all 08:48 < mnemoc> MadTux: why this early? 08:48 < MadTux> mnemoc: dr said so 08:48 < mnemoc> :( 08:48 * MadTux has to rest more 08:48 < MadTux> besides i need to be up in 5 hours 08:48 < mnemoc> dr thinks you are human 08:48 < MadTux> so i will see you in the mourning mnemoc 08:49 < MadTux> yes he still thinks i am human.. stupid mortal 08:49 < mnemoc> cu MadTux 08:50 < MadTux> cu mnemoc 08:50 < MadTux> :) 08:50 < MadTux> cu blindnudist 08:50 < blindcoder> bye 08:51 < MadTux> :) 08:51 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has quit "Client Exiting" 09:16 -!- _KonvIRC is now known as ChristianQt 09:45 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1C7AC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:49 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1C7AC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Client Quit 10:00 -!- maze_fan [~crash@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:00 < maze_fan> 50% packet loss over a distance of no mare than 10 or 15 meters.... that just isn't normal 10:02 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p50801443.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 10:05 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p50801443.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:20 -!- KonvIRC_ [~konversat@pD9530C41.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:36 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802826.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:36 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 10:36 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [] [Tue Sep 2 15:34:51 2003] 10:36 [Users #rocklinux] 10:36 [ [anders] ] [ dev0 ] [ kasc ] [ netrunner] [ th ] 10:36 [ Aard ] [ esden ] [ KonvIRC_ ] [ nookie ] [ trekkie3k] 10:36 [ aszlig_ ] [ fake ] [ maze_fan ] [ praenti ] [ true ] 10:36 [ blindcoder ] [ hopelessOwl] [ mistik1 ] [ rolla ] [ WrKRobe ] 10:36 [ cchamilt ] [ huebi ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] 10:36 [ ChristianQt] [ ija ] [ Nebukadneza`] [ SMP ] 10:36 [ cytrinox` ] [ jani_ ] [ netcrow ] [ snyke ] 10:36 [ daja77 ] [ jsaw ] [ netrunne1 ] [ spectre ] 10:36 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 36 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 36 normal] 10:36 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug 3 22:11:35 2003 10:36 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 7 secs 10:36 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 10:39 -!- ChristianQt [~konversat@pD953030D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 10:46 < mnemoc> *yawn* 10:53 < maze_fan> jupp 10:54 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802204.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 10:56 < mnemoc> maze_fan: how is your drum-network working? :) 10:57 < maze_fan> mnemoc: I'm currently trying to do a remote switch from ndiswrapper to driverloader 10:57 < maze_fan> but the >50% packet loss do collide with my efforts 10:58 < mnemoc> o_O 10:58 < maze_fan> yes 10:59 < maze_fan> 15 m distance between AP and NIC, and over 50% packet loss 10:59 < mnemoc> aarg... and exploit in cvs :( 10:59 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p50801443.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 10:59 < maze_fan> now I'm trying to remotely switch from ndiswrapper to linuxant driverloader in hope that it helps 10:59 < mnemoc> linuxant scares me 11:00 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p50801443.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:00 < maze_fan> I have no alternative, unfortunately 11:01 < maze_fan> 802.11G PCI WLan NIC from Linksys 11:01 < mnemoc> "This release fixes a security issue with no known exploits that could cause previous versions of CVS to attempt to create files and directories in the filesystem root." <-- believe or not believe... /me don't want to update more s.th today/night :| 11:01 < mnemoc> maze_fan: change nic :) 11:02 < maze_fan> mnemoc: there is not a single 802.11G nic supported by linux IIRC 11:03 < mnemoc> :( 11:03 < mnemoc> downgrade :) 11:04 < mnemoc> https://sourceforge.net/projects/madwifi/ ? 11:05 < maze_fan> broadcom chipset 11:06 < mnemoc> LinkSys WPC54A 11:06 < mnemoc> LinkSys WPC55AG 11:06 < mnemoc> Linksys WMP55AG 11:10 < hopelessOwl> moin 11:10 < mnemoc> moin owl 11:11 < hopelessOwl> hi mnemoc 11:11 < maze_fan> moin owl 11:11 < hopelessOwl> hi maze_fan 11:11 < hopelessOwl> .oO(a new face in #rocklinux ?) 11:11 * maze_fan == blindcoder 11:11 < hopelessOwl> ah so *lol* 11:11 < hopelessOwl> hi blindy 11:12 < hopelessOwl> why this nickchange? O_o 11:12 < maze_fan> because the machione at home is quite unresponsive 11:12 < hopelessOwl> hehe. ok + 11:12 < hopelessOwl> - + 11:12 < mnemoc> maze_fan is better than nakedCoder :) 11:12 < hopelessOwl> *lol* 11:12 < hopelessOwl> yeah :p 11:13 * hopelessOwl provides maze_fan some influenca-virus... --> (illCoder) 11:13 < mnemoc> sickCoder :) 11:14 < hopelessOwl> *hrhr* 11:14 < hopelessOwl> *gnarf* /me running to hug the toilet again. sorry. brb 11:17 < mnemoc> after that comment, i think i'll go to sleep 11:17 < mnemoc> gn8 * 11:17 < maze_fan> n8 11:18 < mnemoc> good luck maze_fan with your drum-network with ants 11:18 < maze_fan> thanks 11:18 < maze_fan> but it looks like it screwed up 11:19 < hopelessOwl> re 11:19 < hopelessOwl> gnu8 mnemoc 11:35 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p50801443.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 11:35 < hopelessOwl> *hrhr* the drums disappeard completely 11:38 < maze_fan> yeah 11:38 < maze_fan> the switch.sh script didn't work properly after all 11:39 < hopelessOwl> not well 11:40 < maze_fan> indeed 11:43 -!- puzzled [~patrick@puzzled.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 11:49 < maze_fan> but since I think I know why it failed I'm going to call my mum later and tell her to press the reset button 11:49 < hopelessOwl> hehe. ok ;) 11:52 < maze_fan> muahahaha 11:52 < maze_fan> https://www.hackles.org/ 11:52 < daja77> moin 11:52 < maze_fan> moin moin daja 11:53 < daja77> moin blindy 11:53 < ija> moin daja 11:53 < daja77> O_o 11:53 < hopelessOwl> hi daja77 , ija 11:54 < ija> hi owl 11:54 < maze_fan> moin ija 11:55 < maze_fan> WEE! I finally have got my IS4IT E-Mail! 11:55 < maze_fan> After one and a half years :D 11:55 < daja77> hm? 11:55 < hopelessOwl> haeh??? 11:55 < maze_fan> E-Mail-Address 11:55 < hopelessOwl> heh. congrats. 11:55 < maze_fan> thanks :) 11:55 < hopelessOwl> .oO(in my company it only took about 3 month) 11:55 < maze_fan> well, it wasn't necessary for me to have one until recently :) 11:56 < daja77> <futurama>after 25 years i got my aol account</futuram> ... 11:56 < maze_fan> hehe 11:56 < hopelessOwl> tstststs *g* 12:40 * maze_fan back 12:46 < daja77> uhmmm kde-announce active once again 12:50 < daja77> rofl suse gcc 3.2 is broken ... 12:51 < maze_fan> no wonder, is it? 12:53 < daja77> wondering what they made wrong, rtai ppl stating that the kernel they compiled with it was a mess 12:53 < maze_fan> hmm 12:54 -!- dev0 [tobias@pD9E58296.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux ["Leaving"] 13:05 < daja77> yeah mozex rules 13:06 < daja77> using vim for editing textareas ... 13:09 < maze_fan> doesn't w3m do the same? 13:10 < daja77> ... 14:07 < maze_fan> damn... I'm so fucking bored... 14:17 < maze_fan> narf 14:21 < hopelessOwl> hehe. /me jjust got the latest newspaper 14:22 < maze_fan> anything interesting? 14:22 < daja77> <MadTux>code!</MadTux> 14:22 < maze_fan> daja77: can't access the source because of screwed network 14:22 < daja77> oh 14:23 < hopelessOwl> still no time to read :p because my mum annoys me... (just got it about 3 minutes ago.. --> no time to read) 14:23 -!- aszlig_ [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has left #rocklinux ["died"] 14:37 < daja77> owl bein petted by mummie ... 14:38 < hopelessOwl> daja77: *kick* 14:38 < hopelessOwl> annoyed... 14:40 < rolla> re 14:40 < netrunne1> argl. how *** must one be to forward each incoming hoax to all contacts? 14:40 < hopelessOwl> *lol* 14:40 < netrunne1> that's even better than any self spreading worm. do it yourself dos 14:40 < hopelessOwl> they're as clever as bush? 14:40 < daja77> hi rolla & netrunne1 14:41 < netrunne1> hi daja77 14:41 < daja77> netrunne1: don't tell me you are surprised by this 14:41 * netrunne1 is not really here. just sneaked in here from work 14:41 -!- You're now known as netrunner 14:41 < netrunner> daja77: yes, when it happened several times, and each time I tell my dad ... then yes, I am surprised. 14:42 < daja77> ahem ok ... 14:42 < daja77> maybe he thinks resistance is not futile ... 14:44 * netrunner now replies with a quote of the Bad Times hoax. 14:44 < daja77> send it to everyone! 14:44 < daja77> ^^ 14:47 < netrunner> cat badtimes.txt | mail -s "Bad Times" *@*.{com,net,org,de} 14:47 < daja77> netspammer ... 14:51 < maze_fan> I prefer the gullibility mailinglist 15:08 < cytrinox`> moin 15:10 < maze_fan> moin moin 15:35 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit "Changing server" 15:41 -!- maisenhe [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:41 -!- maisenhe is now known as rolla 15:47 < rolla> crazy irc servers 15:50 -!- spectre [kjtxlip@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has quit Nick collision from services. 15:50 -!- _spectre_ [wcjpjjr@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:01 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-020.arcor-ip.net] has quit "Client exiting" 16:01 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 16:02 < MadTux> re all. 16:02 < daja77> re maze_fan 16:02 < daja77> re MadTux 16:02 < MadTux> hi daja77 :) 16:02 < MadTux> ping jsaw 16:03 < rolla> hallo MadTux 16:03 < MadTux> hi rolla :) 16:03 < jsaw> pong MadTux 16:03 < jsaw> hi all 16:04 < MadTux> jsaw: got your patches thanks. 16:04 < daja77> hi jsaw 16:04 < jsaw> hi daja77 16:05 -!- nookie [~nookie@M385P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit Client Quit 16:24 * MadTux debuging a few base errors 16:25 < MadTux> spect patches ;) 16:25 < daja77> thx for the warning ^^ 16:25 < MadTux> daja77: what made you think its a warning? 16:25 < MadTux> *g* 16:26 < daja77> sounds like one :O 16:26 < mnemoc> MadTux: do u want to update xfsprogs? 16:26 < MadTux> nah, no patch bombs today 16:26 < MadTux> mnemoc: i will but later, right now i want to geta clean build of minimal as is and fix any error i find 16:27 < daja77> have you thrown out rfcs from minimal? 16:27 < mnemoc> errors on clean minimal??? 16:27 < mnemoc> 2.4.23i2clm_sensors? 16:28 < MadTux> mnemoc: stupid error ie wiretools not been able to copy rocknet_wireless.sh to $root/etc/network/modules because the dir is created when iproute2 is built which is some packages _after_ wireless-tools.. 16:28 < mnemoc> are wiretools built before iproute2? 16:28 < MadTux> mnemoc: yup 16:28 < mnemoc> o_O 16:29 < MadTux> wireless-tools 736.000 , iproute2 787.000 16:29 < mnemoc> drum-tools are not on my minimal 16:30 < MadTux> so wireless-tools will fail on stage one cause of this. is a rall y dump thing, fixed it 16:30 < mnemoc> god bless mkdir -p 16:31 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p50801443.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:32 < mnemoc> blindcoder: how are your ants? 16:34 * mnemoc hates phorum-like apps 16:34 * daja77 too 16:45 < MadTux> mnemoc: yeah 16:45 < MadTux> actually all targets user wireless-tools and iproute2, so i'll make a patch to remove the line from iproute2.conf and leave it only at wireless-tools.conf 16:47 < mnemoc> nack 16:48 < mnemoc> why should every target use wireless-tools?? 16:48 < mnemoc> if i pkgsel - wireless-tools the building will fail 16:48 < daja77> yep on bootable multimedia cds wireless-tools are not needed 16:49 < MadTux> according to rene's answer several months ago, because we should be able uintall from net even if its wireless, and wireless should be there as default 16:49 < MadTux> mnemoc: i could leave mkdir -p on iproute2.conf too anyways 16:49 < MadTux> :) 16:50 < mnemoc> :) 16:50 < mnemoc> brb 17:01 * MadTux first will create a set of minimal isos for himself, and fix any possible error found on this process, after this, will try tp cleanup minimal target, its still huge 17:01 < daja77> yep, throw out rfc package and it is 150mb less 17:02 < mnemoc> the old 'base' target :) 17:02 * rolla screams at the ants 17:03 < MadTux> daja77: will take that out and some of the bdb version we have .. not all of them are needed 17:03 < MadTux> mnemoc: well its base - several packages... 17:03 < mnemoc> rolla: are u trying to linuxant too? 17:03 < daja77> ack 17:03 < rolla> mnemoc: nein I just want to kill some co-workers 17:03 < mnemoc> old-base was lighter than current minimal 17:04 < MadTux> mnemoc: define old_base 17:04 < mnemoc> rolla: do'nt repress yourself 17:04 < rolla> ;) 17:04 < mnemoc> 1.4? 17:05 < MadTux> mnemoc: well .. :) 17:08 -!- dev0 [tobias@pD953C954.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:09 < MadTux> hi dev0 17:10 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD90056E9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:16 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD900574C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 17:21 < jsaw> MadTux: for bdb, see #178 17:21 < MadTux> mm? 17:22 < daja77> in flyspray i guess 17:24 < jsaw> yep. 17:24 < jsaw> https://www.rocklinux.net/flyspray/index.php?id=178&do=details 17:26 < mnemoc> jsaw: "bdb40 is the supported bdb for subversion" 17:26 < mnemoc> "bdb41 is not stable" 17:26 < mnemoc> BUT bdb42 is out 17:27 < MadTux> well folks we are running pretty much every existing bdb version 17:27 < mnemoc> maybe bdb42 is stable enough for subversion AND we can remove bdb40 17:28 < MadTux> well if 4.2 is in and works on svn we can take off 4.0 and 4.1 17:29 * mnemoc hopes that 17:29 < jsaw> my point is, that rxr closed the issue with "won't fix"... 17:29 < MadTux> _please_ lets not keep more bdb versions.. 17:29 < MadTux> jsaw: explain 17:30 < mnemoc> jsaw: that was before bdb42 17:30 < MadTux> :) 17:30 < jsaw> we may remove 4.1, but I don't think he is willing to remove 4.0 (wild guess) 17:32 < MadTux> jsaw: well if we can be sure that svn will work with 4.2 then we can talk him to rmove 4.0 17:32 < mnemoc> 4.1->4.2 is not clean 17:32 < MadTux> mnemoc: ? 17:33 < mnemoc> BUT 4.1 has never ben on an stable release 17:33 < jsaw> see https://www.sleepycat.com/download/patchlogs.shtml: 17:33 < jsaw> May require Queue access method database dump and load. 17:34 < mnemoc> someday we will need to add update scripts to .gem files 17:35 < mnemoc> and optional signatures 17:36 < MadTux> would be nice 17:37 < mnemoc> embedded update scripts would be a 'big difference' with other ditros 17:37 < MadTux> oh yeah 17:47 < daja77> blindcoder: ping 17:48 < mnemoc> the other TODO i have with '.gem' is inclusion/exclusion named patterns to avoid package splitting like RH and others 17:48 < daja77> package splitting is not that bad 17:50 < mnemoc> depends on view points 17:51 < daja77> yep, having client only packages for distributed workstation install is nice 17:52 < mnemoc> i think a -nodev at install is better than having to install $pkg-{lib,dev,foo} each time 17:52 < mnemoc> with the high depedence generated by that 17:53 < daja77> well if i have a client only workstation i like to get small packages from net and not downloading a huge one and doin selective install 17:53 < mnemoc> that's a good point but i saw that as a target restriction (imho) 17:55 < mnemoc> named patters can be easily applied at .gem creation time 17:55 < mnemoc> in a similar way that pacakge splitting 17:55 < daja77> well you could use that patterns to create split packages when wanted as well 17:56 < mnemoc> yep 17:56 < mnemoc> they mix fine :) 17:56 < mnemoc> Distrbution building kit -> flexibility :) 17:56 < daja77> :) 17:58 < mnemoc> OT: who will send cvs-update patch? if i send more patches i'll be banished :) 18:00 < mnemoc> screen need to be updated too 18:01 * netrunner takes screen 18:01 < mnemoc> 4.0.2 :) 18:01 < mnemoc> go for it 18:02 < netrunner> freshmeat shows still 4.0.1 18:02 < mnemoc> believe me ;) 18:02 < netrunner> waiting for gnu.org ... 18:03 < mnemoc> ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/utilities/screen/screen-4.0.2.tar.gz 18:03 < mnemoc> 12-5-2003 18:03 < netrunner> jup, found ;) 18:04 < mnemoc> https://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=bugtraq&m=106995837813873&w=2 18:05 < netrunner> why do we have 3.9.15? any reason? 18:05 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4F48F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:05 < netrunner> I mean it's not even the one before actual. 18:05 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p50801443.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Nick collision from services. 18:05 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 18:06 < mnemoc> it's last from 3.9 series 18:11 < netrunner> Screen version 4.00.02 (FAU) 5-Dec-03 18:12 < netrunner> svn commit 18:13 < mnemoc> did it build cleanly?? 18:13 < mnemoc> 'smoothly' :) 18:14 < netrunner> when I disabled the configure_pam.patch, yes. 18:14 < netrunner> and it works. 18:14 < mnemoc> :o 18:15 * mnemoc love that updates 18:15 < netrunner> I left the other patches, they still applied. 18:16 < MadTux> :) 18:16 < MadTux> hi nety 18:21 < mnemoc> no greetings for you today 18:21 < MadTux> mnemoc: i greeted you hours ago! 18:21 < mnemoc> :) 18:26 < netrunner> MadTux: I also greeted you hours ago. most probably yesterday :) 18:26 < MadTux> nety yesterday i guess :) 18:27 * daja77 needs 4 additional weeks this year only for rock work ... 18:28 < MadTux> depending on the way you manage sleep you can get the equivalent time :) 18:29 < daja77> not me 18:29 < MadTux> you lazy boy 18:29 * netrunner could gain time for rocklinux by dumping his gf ... [ ] possible option ;) 18:30 < daja77> bad option 18:30 < mnemoc> daja77 is not lazy, he lives la vida loca 18:30 < daja77> tell me more, must have missed sth 18:31 < netrunner> mnemoc: patch submitted. 18:31 < MadTux> mnemoc: hehe 18:31 * MadTux se imagina a daja77 bailnaod la vida loca 18:31 < MadTux> :) 18:31 < netrunner> ce vrei? 18:32 < MadTux> was? 18:32 < daja77> MadTux: ?? 18:32 * netrunner thinks there is a reason for LANG=en :) 18:33 < daja77> netrunner: hast recht *ggg* 18:33 * daja77 runs 18:33 < mnemoc> * MadTux imagines daja77 dancing la vida loca 18:34 < netrunner> public class #rocklinux extends Irc implements Talkable{ public static void main(){System.out.println("/me prefers java ;)")}} 18:35 < daja77> you are weird 18:35 -!- nookie [~nookie@M471P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 18:35 < netrunner> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<>>>>>>> 18:36 < mnemoc> who is 'you'? 18:36 * netrunner faking knowledge of brainfuk to use in irc 18:36 < daja77> netrunner 18:36 * netrunner is the most common person talked to in #rocklinux and therefore referenced by 'you' 18:37 < daja77> or YOU 18:40 < mnemoc> common person: *please* add checksums :( 18:41 < daja77> hehe 18:43 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F48F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 18:43 < netrunner> urgs, I tried to remember while removing it, but forggot. 18:43 < MadTux> :) 18:43 * netrunner resending 18:51 < netrunner> hey guys, just a question. am I the only one getting shared files with modutils and module-init-tools? 18:52 < netrunner> I just installed a build and have no {ins,rm,}mod 18:53 < MadTux> netrunner: no idea here.. yet.. will be able to tell you in a few hours 18:56 < netrunner> hm, modutils is for 2.4, module-init-tools is for 2.6. debian renames modutils tools with *.modutils 18:58 < mnemoc> defautl insmod depends of default kernel version 18:58 < mnemoc> afaik you can load 2.4 modules with module-init-tools 18:58 < mnemoc> can't 18:58 < mnemoc> aaarg :( 18:59 < netrunner> From the module-init-tools manpages (e.g. man 18:59 < netrunner> insmod) 18:59 < netrunner> "This version of insmod is for kernels 2.5.48 and above. If it detects 18:59 < netrunner> a kernel with support for old-style modules (for which much of the work 18:59 < netrunner> was done in userspace), it will attempt to run insmod.modutils in its 18:59 < netrunner> place, so it is completely transparent to the user." 18:59 < netrunner> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200310/msg03000.html 19:01 < mnemoc> then _if_ both are X, modutils should be renamed 19:03 < mnemoc> module-init-tools/pkg_modutils_post.conf -> INSTALL_WRAPPER ? 19:07 * daja77 still wondering why install wrapper didn't work for openafs 19:08 < netrunner> hm, there is some magic in modutils that /should/ append a .old ... but probably doesn't work, because it creates a symlink to it, which causes the clash 19:09 < netrunner> ah, that's the reason, yes. 19:09 < mnemoc> gotta go... cu * 19:09 < netrunner> but probably the solution via module-init-tools is better, no? they call the other automatically. 19:11 < mnemoc> as module-init-tools replaces modutils, is the first who must 'repress' the second, not the seconds repressing itself 19:11 < netrunner> what do you mean with repress? 19:12 < netrunner> module-init-tools, the new, call the old if they find an old kernel. 19:12 < mnemoc> inject the INSTALL_WRAPPER 19:12 < mnemoc> that's in runtime 19:12 < netrunner> prima. c compiler cannot create executables. 19:12 < mnemoc> we should do the same on buildtime using INSTALL_WRAPPER from module-init-tools/pkg_modutils_post.conf 19:12 < mnemoc> lol 19:19 < netrunner> hm, march=k62 should be march=k6-2, no? 19:20 < netrunner> 5 19:32 -!- KonvIRC_ is now known as ChristianQt 19:33 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA996B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:38 < tcr> moin all 19:38 < netrunner> moin tcr 19:39 < MadTux> tcr 19:39 < rolla> sparc linux is a pain 19:39 < tcr> moin netrunner, madtux 19:39 < MadTux> rolla: hehe 1/2 a bit yes 19:49 < netrunner> bg: ich fahre jetzt dann los. ca 15 min. ich klingle dann dein handy an. 19:49 < netrunner> argl. 19:49 * netrunner -> away. 19:52 -!- nookie [~nookie@M471P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit "Lost terminal" 19:57 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.77.1.253] has joined #rocklinux 19:59 -!- OffToWar [~zen@user-uiveq1n.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 20:00 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.77.1.253] has quit "ChatZilla 0.9.36 [Mozilla rv:1.5/0]" 20:29 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-020.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:35 < rxr> re 20:36 -!- OffToWar [~zen@user-uiveq1n.dsl.mindspring.com] has quit Connection timed out 20:37 < daja77> hi rxr 20:40 < rxr> hi daja77 20:41 * daja77 fixed two things on hp without breaking it ^^ 20:44 -!- nookie [~nookie@M471P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 20:50 < rxr> daja77: congrats 20:54 < daja77> :)) 21:00 < esden> *sigh* 21:00 < esden> hi all 21:00 < daja77> hi esden 21:00 < esden> hi daja77 21:01 * esden switching on wlan ... 21:01 < daja77> do you put MadTux back to active devs? 21:02 < esden> o_O 21:04 < esden> brb 21:17 < esden> re 21:26 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F48F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:27 < esden> hi blindcoder 21:28 < blindcoder> hi esden 21:28 < blindcoder> esden: you needed me? 21:28 < blindcoder> here I am :) 21:28 < blindcoder> mnemoc, MadTux: naked in my bed :* 21:29 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA996B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 21:29 < blindcoder> muahaha 21:29 < blindcoder> seems like he couldn't stand that 21:29 < daja77> me wanted you 21:30 < blindcoder> daja77: so here I am. Want to come into my bed :* 21:30 < daja77> sure hehe 21:31 < blindcoder> okay, wait, I just have to pull out the extension 21:31 < daja77> you already included bootsplash into lvp? 21:33 < blindcoder> esden: you forgot the - after the 'cat's 21:33 < blindcoder> daja77: not yet. haven't had time to work on LVP since last release 21:34 < blindcoder> I probably won't be able to do anything before 20C3 right now 21:34 < daja77> why? 21:34 < blindcoder> too much to do 21:34 < blindcoder> I don't even have time to do nothing >_< 21:34 < daja77> what? 21:34 < esden> blindcoder: no id did not forget it I optimized it away 21:34 < blindcoder> the problems with the wlan (which seem to be fixed now) 21:34 < esden> and the first cat is not really needed 21:34 < blindcoder> stress at work (last workday seems to be next Tuesday) 21:35 < blindcoder> esden: i c 21:35 < esden> but I did not want to test it ... have better things to do ;) 21:35 < esden> we will see tonight if it works with the nested ssh command 21:35 < blindcoder> so that means I have to a) be done with the kickstart server and b) have yet another job interview at HVBinfo 21:36 < blindcoder> add to that my japanese lessons and some social things and my week is filled 21:37 < blindcoder> I haven't watched more than two animes since last monday (the one before yesterday) 21:38 < daja77> oki so i'll grab your stuff, and work it on 21:38 < blindcoder> the stuff on lvp.crash-override.net is the latest, I haven't changed anything in it since the last release 21:38 < daja77> ok 21:39 < blindcoder> so then, I'll try to watch an anime now and then fall asleep where I am (in bed :) 21:39 < blindcoder> daja77: would be cool if you can get it to work with LVP :) 21:39 < blindcoder> see you tomorrow then! 21:39 < esden> ok ... /me -> home 21:39 < esden> cu guys 21:39 < esden> cu blindcoder 21:39 < blindcoder> oyasumi! 21:39 < daja77> cu blindcoder 21:45 -!- ChristianQt [~konversat@pD9530C41.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 21:46 < MadTux> re 21:46 < MadTux> hi esden 21:47 < MadTux> blindcoder: naked on ur bed .. OMG.. how scary 21:47 < MadTux> daja77: I gave up asking esden to put me back as an active dev, he just won't do it i guess. 21:48 < daja77> you want me to do it? 21:49 < MadTux> the question is if i am actually wanted back in the active devs list.. 21:49 < MadTux> :( 21:50 < daja77> that's why i am asking 21:50 < MadTux> Well i would like to. 21:50 < MadTux> daja77: can you make it happen? 21:50 < daja77> guess so 21:50 < MadTux> okis 21:55 < rxr> MadTux: yes, you are wanted back - what a question ;-)! 21:57 * daja77 working on it 21:57 < MadTux> hi rxr :) 21:57 < MadTux> thanks. 22:00 < daja77> https://www.rocklinux.net/typo3/gallery.html 22:00 < daja77> can you live with that or you want to get higher? ;-) 22:03 < daja77> moving records with typo3 is sort of annoying ^^ 22:03 < MadTux> daja77: well if you read well, it is supposed to be ordered alphatically acording to the last name.. 22:03 < daja77> oh really, ok, moving on 22:03 * MadTux getting on daja77's nerves :) 22:03 < daja77> you are doin well ^^ 22:03 < MadTux> see it urself if you don't believe me 22:03 < MadTux> i know :) 22:04 < MadTux> sh!t i'm good :) 22:04 < daja77> you are right 22:05 < MadTux> on what? the alphatical order or me getting on ur nerves? 22:05 < daja77> both ^^ 22:06 < nookie> Hi MadTux :) 22:06 < MadTux> ^_^ 22:07 < MadTux> hi n00kie :) 22:07 < nookie> Hi daniel ^^ 22:07 < daja77> hi daniel :)) 22:07 < MadTux> OMG Daniels invation! 22:08 < nookie> hehe 22:08 < MadTux> *g* 22:12 < daja77> if someone tells me fake's secret birthdate i could add that too *ggg* 22:13 < MadTux> i can give you more work if you want :) 22:13 < daja77> hehe, should i update your entry? 22:14 < MadTux> yups 22:14 < MadTux> see query for info 22:22 -!- OffToWar [~zen@user-uiven4e.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 22:25 * rolla yawns 22:25 < daja77> as always hehe 22:26 < rolla> hey work wears a man out 22:26 < daja77> i know 22:27 < rolla> damn ircnet is still down 22:27 < daja77> not really I am in it 22:27 < rolla> there is only one US ircnet server 22:28 < rolla> and it has been down for 2 days 22:28 < daja77> try irc.freenet.de ... 22:28 < MadTux> :) 22:30 < rolla> nope 22:30 < rolla> not allowed 22:30 < daja77> huh? 22:30 < rolla> 15:30 [IRCNet2] -!- Irssi: Connection to irc.freenet.de established 22:30 < rolla> 15:30 [IRCNet2] -!- ERROR Closing Link: maisenhe[maisenhe@66.136.183.233] 22:30 < rolla> (Unauthorized connection) 22:31 < daja77> d'oh 22:31 < rolla> only .de allowed 22:31 < rolla> yup 22:31 < rolla> ircnet sucks in this way 22:31 < daja77> try irc.tu-ilmenau.de, hope they are not that way 22:32 < rxr> netrunner: awake? 22:32 < rolla> same 22:32 < daja77> damn 22:32 < rolla> ircnet sucks because of this 22:32 < rolla> they lock down all servers to region 22:34 < daja77> not only because of this 22:37 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@p3EE1E296.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:38 < rxr> hi jsaw_ 22:42 -!- nookie [~nookie@M471P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit "Lost terminal" 22:43 < rxr> hm: 22:43 < rxr> 22:40:33 up 87 days, 23:28, 20 users, load average: 4.79, 4.62, 4.38 22:44 < rxr> should I really update my lovely "Linux version 2.4.21-rock (root@heap) (gcc version 3.2.2)" kernel on it ... :-( 22:44 < rxr> damn many local root exploits found recently ... 22:45 < daja77> wouldn't be such a big problem if typo3 would be usable via https, hint passwd sniffing ... 22:46 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p3EE1E273.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 22:46 < rxr> daja77: mail clifford ;-) 22:48 < daja77> will do 22:48 < daja77> so mike is no.1 again ^^ 22:49 < MadTux> *g* 22:54 < jsaw_> re 22:54 < jsaw_> hi all 22:54 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw 22:54 < daja77> hehe nice that i animated jani to send a patch *ggg* 22:55 < rxr> rehi jsaw 22:55 < jsaw> hi rxr 22:58 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has quit "Client Exiting" 22:59 < daja77> ok mailed clifford 23:04 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 23:04 < MadTux> re 23:05 < rxr> jsaw: me just applying the gnome2 patch 23:05 < MadTux> rxr: genome2.4 update? 23:05 < rolla> re 23:13 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p3EE1E296.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 23:13 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p3EE1E296.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:13 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p3EE1E296.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Client Quit 23:15 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p3EE1E296.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:16 < rxr> MadTux: yes 23:16 < rxr> MadTux: rev1943 23:19 * daja77 promoting rock on other chans again ^^ 23:20 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: MadTux, esden, kasc 23:20 -!- Netsplit over, joins: MadTux, kasc, esden 23:24 < netrunner> can we do working 64bit build? 23:25 < MadTux> x86_64? 23:25 < netrunner> yes 23:25 < netrunner> opteron 23:25 < daja77> arch was added afaik 23:25 < netrunner> somebody mentioned it would not work ... 23:25 < MadTux> te question is.. do you have such hardware? 23:26 < netrunner> yes. but I'd have to cross-compile, no? 23:26 < MadTux> nety well its just a matter of trying.. that would confirm if the theory is true or not 23:26 < MadTux> :) 23:26 < netrunner> or would normal build suffice to do the step 32 -> 64 23:27 < daja77> cross compile -> install -> native build i guess 23:27 < MadTux> ack. 23:27 < netrunner> anybody has the size of a fresh download? (not including all versions as I have here) 23:28 < jsaw> for x86_64, devfs is disabled... 23:28 < daja77> around 2gb i guess 23:28 < jsaw> in 2.4.23 23:28 < rxr> netrunner: you need a cross build and then do a full build natively 23:28 < rxr> jsaw: not in our 2.4.23 kernel ;-) 23:28 < jsaw> you fixed it already? 23:28 < daja77> hehehe 23:28 < rxr> netrunner: currently x86_64 does not cross-build correctly 23:28 < jsaw> DAMN. 23:29 < daja77> oh 23:29 < rxr> jsaw: nope I do not have the hardware - I disabled the disabling ... 23:29 < daja77> rxr: what g5? 23:29 < netrunner> rxr: :( 23:29 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/service/regtest/arch-x86_64/2003-10-31/ 23:29 < rxr> netrunner: but might be easy to fix 23:30 * netrunner has access to such hardware. just drove the guy owning it back home. 23:30 < daja77> hehe 23:30 < jsaw> rxr: the building of some python packages in gnome WILL FAIL without the export PYTHONPATH line in gnome-24.conf 23:30 < rxr> netrunner: I already did a build on my iBook for x86_64 some days ago and the result just waits for a free minute at university to getting a spot by me ... 23:30 < netrunner> rxr: he'd be willing to fix it, so if that is all ... 23:31 < rxr> netrunner: the problem must be a tiny trival config or useage issue - but I just had not the time to look into it ... 23:31 < netrunner> the owner of the opteron system is developer at trustix, so might be worth introducing and helping him ;) 23:31 < daja77> sounds cool 23:32 * daja77 still waiting for access to amd64 23:32 < rxr> jsaw: then gnome24/pygtk/pygtk.conf needs fixing 23:33 < rxr> jsaw: maybe half of gnome24/pygtk/pygtk.conf belongs into base/python/python.conf anyway? 23:33 < MadTux> daja77: /me too 23:34 < daja77> rxr: erh one of your mails is a full quote without added content? 23:34 < jsaw> rxr: that was a question long time ago, where do we install python packages. All in /usr/lib/python-2.3/etc..., or not? 23:35 < jsaw> rxr: if not, this does not belong to python.conf. 23:38 < netrunner> rxr: modutils vs module-init-tools has shared files. modutils renames itself but then creates a link ... 23:41 < rxr> netrunner: I have not noticed a shared files - can you send me the .err log 23:41 < rxr> jsaw: I take a look tomorrow or so - or maybe you have some patch until then ... 23:41 < rxr> daja77: hm - no, not intended 23:41 < jsaw> rxr: add a pygtk-pkg.conf file? 23:42 < rxr> netrunner: the x86_64 problem is "just" that the cross linker does not find the ld-linux-x86-86.so - might be trival to fix 23:42 < rxr> jsaw: you want me to take more looks into it tonight? ;-) 23:43 < jsaw> I'll send another solution in seconds. Take a look ... 23:44 < rxr> shit - now kword crashes loading my document - very bad 23:44 < rxr> #0 0x0e7bcab0 in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 23:44 < rxr> #1 0x0f54e694 in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler(int) () 23:44 < rxr> from /opt/kde31/lib/libkdecore.so.4 23:44 < rxr> #2 0x0e7baecc in pthread_barrierattr_setpshared () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 23:44 < rxr> #3 <signal handler called> 23:44 < rxr> #4 0x0e03483c in KWCanvas::currentTableRow() const () 23:44 < rxr> from /opt/kde31/lib/kde3/libkwordpart.so 23:44 < rxr> #5 0x0e034830 in KWCanvas::currentTableRow() const () 23:44 < rxr> I need this document on paper ... :-( 23:44 < daja77> openoffice 1.1 os quite usable ... 23:44 < daja77> is 23:46 < daja77> erh btw found an easier way to support pdftex and latex in handbook than the way i proposed last time 23:47 < rxr> daja77: no way - I only used well strctued coded, leightweight ... and self-compileable projects ... 23:47 < rxr> I rather fix the first crash I found for week in kword then using this crap ... 23:47 < daja77> this crap just works atm 23:48 < rxr> daja77: should I try to get it running on this iBook *grin*? 23:48 < daja77> hehe would be cool 23:48 < rxr> no way 23:48 < daja77> hehe 23:49 < rxr> I fix kword ... 23:49 < rxr> and kwrod is s.th. possible to fix - in contrast to the OO mosnter .... 23:50 < daja77> btw i'd like to do some work on the handbook cos i am not quite happy with it 23:50 < rxr> I also plan work on the handbook because it is far from finished ... 23:51 < daja77> do you think it would be good to share that repo 23:54 < rxr> daja77: what do you exactly mean ? 23:55 < daja77> i mean if you perfer huge patches, which might be troublesome when pdfs are involved, or commits 23:56 < daja77> we could branch as well, to avoid confusing 23:57 < jsaw> wtf did my build/*/root/var/adm/packages dir disappear? 23:58 < daja77> speaking of disappearing where did misc/*/create_new_pkg.sh moved to 23:58 < jsaw> misc/archive/{fm,}newpackage.sh 23:59 < daja77> newpackage.sh i mean 23:59 < jsaw> you have chmod a+x both files --- Log closed Mit Dez 10 00:00:15 2003