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--- Log opened Mit Dez 10 00:00:15 2003 --- Day changed Mit Dez 10 2003 00:00 < daja77> ah k. found it, then there was a wrong name somewhere in the docs have to find where 00:01 < jsaw> rxr: could you svn ps svn:executable true misc/archive/{fm,}newpackage.sh 00:02 * MadTux wonders how long will pass before server target is taken out of the trunk 00:02 * daja77 thought about a usable server target some days ago 00:03 < rxr> Wow - now my most favourite piece of shit (gdb) seg-faulted 00:03 < daja77> would be a set of options where you can easily choose the server sw you want on it, then build and go for it 00:03 < MadTux> rxr hehe 00:03 < daja77> lol 00:03 < rxr> MadTux: this is not funny - I need this paper - tomorrow morning 00:03 < rxr> ah - not today morning ... 00:04 < MadTux> daja77: that would make it just a package selection, i believe we should have a feature sort of like mnemoc's idea of impleting the vROCK feature, which can be applied on any distro 00:04 < MadTux> rxr: oh man, sorry to hear that. 00:05 < daja77> MadTux: yes but easy package selection 00:05 < MadTux> daja77: to acomplish what you are describing we could just create a package selection template 00:05 < daja77> no one package creation template doesn't fit 00:05 < MadTux> daja77: that would be use the same way we can make minimal and minimal + xfree 00:06 < MadTux> why not? 00:06 < MadTux> will you actually use an aditional kernel or so? 00:06 < daja77> everybody wants other server stuff, so choosing from a list which would be an easy way to do it 00:06 < MadTux> why a whole target for somethign as simple? 00:06 < daja77> maybe with inclusion of ready config files 00:06 < MadTux> define "ready config files" ? 00:07 < daja77> have a location for config files you already worked out, which will get included 00:07 < daja77> package selection is still too complicated 00:08 < MadTux> well how would you decide which config file is the most apporiate? 00:08 < MadTux> i mean each person to use it would use its own set of options and so anyways, its not like that there is one exclusive way to configure server packages 00:08 < daja77> well if they user supplies config files on is own, there is nothing to decide for rock 00:09 < MadTux> ok still lets say we provide a config file 00:09 < MadTux> daja77: shouldn't this config file be as standard as possible? 00:09 < rxr> I need a faster PPC box ... 00:09 < MadTux> ie, the conf file provided with the package as default? 00:09 < daja77> yeah but it is more likely that server ppl build therir own rock than desktop ppl, i thoughjt it for that reason 00:09 < daja77> not for supplying ready isos 00:10 < MadTux> rxr: feel free to donate to me ur old ppc when you get a faster box :) 00:10 < daja77> rxr: ask esden for the g5 *ggg* 00:10 < rxr> at least koffice only needs one hour or so - OO would need a day or so .. 00:10 < rxr> daja77: he "has" one 00:10 < rxr> ? 00:10 < MadTux> daja77: he has a g5?!? 00:11 < rxr> hopefully I can just do cd kword ; make 00:11 < daja77> at the university afaik 00:11 < rxr> that would speedup the debugging a bit ... 00:11 < MadTux> daja77: well we are not talking about providing isos indeed 00:11 < daja77> yep that would make no sense 00:12 < MadTux> daja77: i still don't get the point on why not have standard config files and let the user that wants to create his own isos, decide how he wants his config files and so 00:12 -!- CyBuX [~CyBuX@200.75.43.104] has joined #rocklinux 00:12 < MadTux> I mean would is there to offer anyways? 00:12 < daja77> MadTux: cos ppl telling me it is too complicated, time consuming for them 00:13 < daja77> so just selecting that stuff in Config would be much easier 00:13 < MadTux> well daja77 how are you going to be able to fit everyones needs in exclusively one config file 00:13 < MadTux> you mean ./scripts/Config ? 00:13 < daja77> not config file scripts/Config 00:13 < daja77> yes 00:13 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD90056E9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit "ze ûda brí-tenkoR" 00:14 < MadTux> well yeah daja77 so can't you just have a server template with the most commonly used packages for servers and let the user add or remove some packages for this? 00:14 < MadTux> make some sort of custom selection? 00:14 < daja77> yes by using checkboxes 00:15 < MadTux> yeah, but provide the server comon packages on a template, that would earn them some time 00:15 < MadTux> get my point? 00:15 < daja77> you still haven't got the idea i guess 00:16 < MadTux> well maybe you want to explain better 00:16 < daja77> sure, could do in query, if i annoy ppl here 00:17 < MadTux> i don't think anyone would be annoying, besides maybe rxr, and other would like to contribute some ideas and suggestions 00:17 < rxr> feel free to continue here ... 00:17 < daja77> ok 00:18 < MadTux> thanks rxr 00:18 < daja77> everybody wants some special server stuff, mail, dns, samba, whatever 00:18 * MadTux listens to daja77's explanation 00:19 -!- CyBuX [~CyBuX@200.75.43.104] has quit "Leaving" 00:19 < daja77> if you can just select the stuff you want to have on your server by hitting some chekboxes, that would be sweet 00:19 < daja77> so you mix your server 00:20 < daja77> and if you like, and only if, you can supply the config files you want to have in it, at some path, and that files will be included in the iso, or repo for that server 00:20 < daja77> and of course you can choose which mail server and stuff you want 00:21 < daja77> this would be more flexible than having n templates in store 00:21 < MadTux> yeah sure i get that part, but why not have a template with all the server stuff, and then let the user deselect what he doesn't want to have 00:21 -!- ierk [~bg@shell.blacknet.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:22 < ierk> hi 00:22 < daja77> hi ierk 00:22 < MadTux> daja77: well what you are suggesting would be just let the user make a full custom package selection 00:22 < daja77> MadTux: why should that be better 00:23 < MadTux> it would be better because then the user woudn't have to waste his time browsing over the gnome, kde, xfree etc stuff 00:23 < ierk> so now i joined here, and netrunner has gone to bed :-( 00:23 < daja77> it would be a quick package selection which doesn't require to read the user too much docs before he can start 00:23 < MadTux> he would have only the kind of stuff needed for servers 00:23 < daja77> so what, thats why it is server target 00:24 < daja77> you only get the options there 00:24 < MadTux> daja77: well wouldn't be better to work as feature better than a target? 00:24 < daja77> define feature? 00:24 < MadTux> i mean besides the custom package selection, what else would this target allow the user to do? 00:24 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F48F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 00:25 < ierk> for x86_64 should i use stable or devel 00:25 < daja77> putting his worked out configs in it, without messing around 00:25 < MadTux> feature as in i can choose this templates when building other targets 00:25 < daja77> you'd need thousand templates for that, this sucks 00:26 < MadTux> ie desktop and generic have different kernel configs, so i could still have the package selection you are talking about and use lets say desktops pkg sel, and even build with dietlibc 00:26 < daja77> yeah kernel config should be added of course 00:26 < MadTux> mm... 00:26 < MadTux> I'm not 100% convinced yet. 00:27 * daja77 neither, just thinking about it 00:27 < MadTux> but maybe out of this flood of ideas something can come out 00:27 < MadTux> would be great if others in here gave an opinion 00:27 < MadTux> daja77: even if we did this ur way or "my" way, we would still have to cleanup the current target 00:28 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 00:28 < ierk> can't find it on the homepage. any rsync feed for rocklinux? 00:28 < daja77> the package templates just moved the problem of having thousands of targets to having thousands of templates 00:29 < MadTux> ierk: ? 00:29 < A-Tui> hola 00:29 < MadTux> daja77: perhaps yeah 00:29 < hopelessOwl> moin 00:29 < MadTux> hola Aitor 00:29 < MadTux> owly! 00:29 < A-Tui> hi miguel 00:29 * MadTux wonders wtf is mnemoc when you need him 00:29 < hopelessOwl> hola Miguel. que tal? 00:29 < daja77> dunno if we still have rsync 00:29 < MadTux> owl, good and you ? 00:30 < MadTux> daja77: only for developer home dirs i think 00:30 < hopelessOwl> hm. still ill. thx 00:30 < ierk> MadTux: I'd like to test Rocklinux on md AMD64 (Athlin64), and to do so I'd like to loclay mirror as much as possible. 00:30 < MadTux> owl thats bad :( 00:30 < MadTux> ierk: we use subversion 00:30 < hopelessOwl> it's acceptable :p at least i don't need to go to the school *hrhr* 00:31 < ierk> MadTux: me link is "just" DSL, but I could e.g. rsync it during the night and than install tomorow 00:31 < daja77> ierk: you could grag the static-svn package and checkout trunk 00:31 < daja77> grab 00:31 < MadTux> ierk: you want to install a regular iso or build ur own isos from the rock src? 00:31 < ierk> MadTux: I want to install a system. I don't care about isos (nor yet). I'd go for netboot and install from there 00:31 < MadTux> ierk: i still don't see the point of using rsync on thos.. 00:32 < MadTux> this* 00:32 < MadTux> ierk: well you need something on your computer that can be used to build rock 00:32 < ierk> MadTux: I'd like to rsync it to a local box1, than if i've all the sources, scripts, ... bootdisk, boot box2 and start installing 00:32 < ierk> MadTux: I've trustix and gentoo on it (and windows but that will not help ;-)) 00:33 < Aard> btw: it is possible to boil rice in a coffee maker 00:33 < hopelessOwl> hi Aard !!! 00:33 < MadTux> Aardvark for real?!? 00:33 < MadTux> ierk: well you first need to get the rock src trunk 00:34 < hopelessOwl> .oO(yeah, where Aard is, nothing is impossible *g*) 00:34 < Aard> MadTux: yes, but it takes a little bit longer then the `classical way' 00:34 < ierk> MadTux: what is best: stable or devel (for amd64) 00:34 < daja77> this sucks, rocklinux us mirror is redirected to ambigc 00:34 < MadTux> ierk: devel 00:34 < MadTux> ierk: svn co https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk 00:35 < MadTux> ierk: then you need to Cofig the thing, and download the packages using the scripts provided, i don't know how familiar you are with rock 00:35 < MadTux> ierk: but i can tell you won't be using rsync at any point of this process.. 00:35 < daja77> afaik you can rsync to the tu vienna mirror 00:36 < ierk> MadTux: I 00:36 < ierk> MadTux: I 00:36 < ierk> MadTux: I'm not at all familar with rock. just talked with netrunner about it. and want to give it a try 00:37 < MadTux> ierk: ah i see 00:37 < MadTux> lets get you properly introduced 00:37 < Aard> any ideas how to boil the vegetables? 00:38 < ierk> Hi all, I'm bg, but the nick is taken and so i use ierk for now. 00:38 < MadTux> ierk: https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/products/rock-handbook/ <- beging ur learning :) 00:38 < MadTux> also in a coffee maker? 00:39 < ierk> I own an Athlon64, and want to compile some version of Linux for amd64. As all the others suck, i want to give rock a try. and will now start reading the manual 00:39 < Aard> MadTux: no. because I want it flavoured 00:40 < MadTux> ierk: excellent, please keep us updated on ur progress 00:40 < MadTux> ierk: we are still a bit new into x86_64 land 00:40 < MadTux> Aard: mm... regular way? 00:42 < Aard> MadTux: EOUTOFCLEANPOTS 00:43 * A-Tui is away: How high the moon 00:43 < MadTux> Aard: 0_o 00:44 < Aard> hm. now eating: rice without anything 00:44 < Aard> tastes great, anyway 00:44 < MadTux> simple rice testes awesome 00:45 < daja77> indian rice in particular 00:45 < MadTux> mm.. /me more into jap.. 00:46 < Aard> MadTux: clean my pots, baby... 00:46 < daja77> Aard: get a girl *ggg* 00:47 < MadTux> Aard: yeah get owl to do it! 00:47 < MadTux> :) 00:47 < Aard> it tastes a bit like coffee. maybe I should have clean the machine before 00:47 < MadTux> *g* 00:53 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F48F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:58 * ierk is not convinced. 00:58 < ierk> did not know WHAT it takes to bootstrap subversion 00:58 < daja77> hm? 00:59 < daja77> just use that static-svn package, precompiled stuff 01:00 < daja77> or if you build it use the --without-apxs switch to build a client only version 01:04 < ierk> daja77: maybe better than triing to make a subversion package for trustix 01:04 < daja77> can't tell, haven't used trustix so far 01:04 < rxr> hm - I just subscrived to koffice-devel and the damn daemon bounces with "bla bla moderated list" - sigh 01:05 < daja77> but guess it will be easier 01:05 < MadTux> rxr: sux 01:05 < MadTux> ierk: to build rock you will need: curl, devfsd, devfs support on ur kernel, subversion 01:07 < ierk> MadTux: great, no curl, no devfs(d), no subversion 01:07 < ierk> MadTux: do I realy need devfs(d) during build? 01:07 < MadTux> rxr: whenever 2.0-final is released, will this release be based on generic-x86 ? or what do you have in mind? 01:07 < MadTux> ierk: yes devfs is a must for rock 2.0 01:07 < MadTux> ierk: will be optional in 2.1 01:08 < ierk> MadTux: I'm checking out the devel tree but that's probably 2.0 01:08 < ierk> MadTux: again devfs is a must during build? (stage1..3/4)? 01:08 < MadTux> ierk: yeah, we are near to a stable release i *hope* 01:09 < MadTux> ierk: yes devfs is a most since the beggining 01:09 < ierk> MadTux: so i can't use my existing os to bootstrap rock :-( 01:10 < daja77> maybe when you recompile kernel 01:10 < MadTux> can't you just recompile ur kernel and add the othe rpackages? 01:10 < ierk> MadTux: once i recompile my kernel (and made a package for curl ;-) ) i will loose access to my LVM. 01:11 < ierk> MadTux: LVM's created with devfs don't work without and viceversa 01:11 < MadTux> ierk: you can always MKOLDCOMPAT on devfsd.conf 01:11 < MadTux> :) 01:11 < ierk> MadTux: so all my drive will be gone (except for 128M of /boot) 01:11 < daja77> d'oh 01:12 < MadTux> ierk: gone as in no space? 01:12 < ierk> MadTux: that does not help. LVM uses the kernel internal device names, and they are /dev/ide/bus... with devfs and it expects to find my PVs at /dev/hd[ace]0 01:12 < MadTux> ierk: as i said before MKOLDCOMPAT on devfsd, that way non-devfs style will be kept as well 01:13 < ierk> MadTux: jep. no space. 01:13 < MadTux> ierk: grr... 01:13 < ierk> MadTux: no MKOLDCOMPAT will not help. it's a devfs_d_ option. the problem is INSIDE the kernel 01:14 -!- ThePcktMstr [~zen@user-uiver0h.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 01:14 < ierk> but i can wipe the Athlon64 box. and try again without LVM 01:14 < daja77> ierk: if you wipe out, you could install 32bit rock for building 01:15 < ierk> daja77: could do that. there are isos (iirc) 01:15 < daja77> yep 01:15 < MadTux> yeah 01:15 < ierk> daja: rock uses grub as bootloader? 01:16 < MadTux> ierk: you can choose grub or lilo 01:16 < daja77> you can choose between grub and lilo 01:16 * MadTux is faster as usual :) 01:16 < daja77> damn /me getting slow 01:16 < daja77> yeah cos i produced much typos 01:16 < MadTux> daja77: well i am the king of the typos 01:16 < MadTux> daja77: still you are right.. you are getting old :P 01:17 < daja77> no tired 01:17 < MadTux> old 01:17 < MadTux> :P 01:17 < daja77> tired! 01:17 < MadTux> yeah yeah 01:17 * daja77 kicks MadTux 01:17 < MadTux> *vbeg* 01:17 < MadTux> ouch! 01:17 < MadTux> what did i do? 01:17 < daja77> doesn't matter *ggg* 01:18 < MadTux> *g* 01:18 * MadTux is an inocent little boy 01:18 < MadTux> brb 01:18 * daja77 likes kicking innocent looking boys 01:18 < ierk> 2.0.0-rc2 is it? and do i need all 3 cds? 01:18 < MadTux> yeah you need the 3 01:19 < MadTux> https://people.hack-solutions.com/mike/pics/mike10.jpg <-- my inocent face :) 01:19 < MadTux> now brb 01:19 < ierk> why is it called generic? 01:20 < rxr> wheeee 01:20 < rxr> cool - found most parts of the bug 01:20 < daja77> rxr: does your desktop isos contain ifconfig? 01:20 < rxr> kword contains a but in the table code delivering the currentRow and Col after loading 01:20 < rxr> daja77: I think so 01:20 < daja77> congrats 01:21 < rxr> so when the cursor is inside a table during saving the loading crashes when the current cursor position is determined 01:21 < daja77> ierk: do you need dynamic ip support? 01:21 < ierk> oh, the telekom indead upgraded my line. downloadin with 330K/s 01:21 < rxr> simply editing the .xml file fixed the loading (in my first test example) - now I try my real files 01:21 < rxr> and continue tracking the real bug ... 01:21 < ierk> daja77: ? dhcp? not realy. but would be nice 01:21 * daja77 likes rxr 01:22 < daja77> ierk: thing is ifconfig is missing on that isos, but you can grab a package for it, from the hp 01:22 < daja77> .oO i really should add an errata page soon 01:23 * ierk is getting https://nexus.tfh-berlin.de/~drock/stable/2.0.0-rc2/generic/generic-2.0.0-rc2-rev1605+fixes_cd[123].iso with now 01:23 < daja77> ok 01:23 < daja77> https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/service/x86/pkgs/net-tools-1.60.gem 01:24 < daja77> with that package you can fix it 01:25 < ierk> daja77: how do i configure the networking? does dhcp work? 01:25 < rxr> jups also worked for my real document (as expected) 01:26 < daja77> cool 01:26 < daja77> ierk: use stone to configure networking, you have to install net-tools package with mine -i $package, before dhcp works 01:27 * daja77 missing mnemoc asking who is porting dhclient to ip ... 01:27 -!- OffToWar [~zen@user-uiven4e.dsl.mindspring.com] has quit Connection timed out 01:28 < rxr> daja77: we do not yet have a bot for this Q ? 01:28 < ierk> daja77: i'll get a chicken-egg problem there: how to dl a package from the network /wo working network :/ 01:28 < daja77> download it now? 01:29 < daja77> rxr: hehe no, but a bot would be cool indeed, guess errata page is easier for a start 01:29 < MadTux> re 01:29 < ierk> daja: i'll wipe the box before install. but that's what floppy disks^W^Wusb memorysticks are for 01:29 < daja77> ack 01:29 < MadTux> fsck prelink - stage 3 is breaking.. 01:29 < rxr> MadTux: yes saw this ... 01:29 < MadTux> rxr: any changes on it lately? 01:30 * ierk is off 01:30 < ierk> n8 all 01:30 < daja77> n8 ierk 01:30 < MadTux> yeah rene updated.. 01:30 < MadTux> i mean mnemoc 01:30 -!- ierk [~bg@shell.blacknet.de] has quit "Leaving" 01:31 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F48F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 01:31 < MadTux> rxr: ? 01:32 < daja77> should i put my todo on /. journal *ggg* 01:32 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F48F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:34 * MadTux downgrading to previous prelink version 01:38 < rxr> cu all later 01:38 < MadTux> cu rxr 01:38 < daja77> cu rxr 01:39 * MadTux again kicking daja77's ass 01:39 < MadTux> daja77: you really are "tired" 01:40 < daja77> no busy writing todo 01:41 < MadTux> yeah yeah :) 01:44 < rxr> ok - I can propose a patch 01:44 < MadTux> rxr: for kword? 01:45 < rxr> --- koffice-1.2.94/kword/kwcanvas.cc.orig 2003-10-27 14:21:54.000000000 +0100 01:45 < rxr> +++ koffice-1.2.94/kword/kwcanvas.cc 2003-12-09 21:34:00.000000000 +0100 01:45 < rxr> @@ -2623,6 +2623,8 @@ 01:45 < rxr> if ( !m_currentFrameSetEdit ) 01:45 < rxr> return -1; 01:45 < rxr> KWTextFrameSetEdit *edit=dynamic_cast<KWTextFrameSetEdit *>(m_currentFrameSetEdit->currentTextEdit()); 01:45 < rxr> + if (!edit) 01:45 < rxr> + return -1; 01:45 < rxr> KWTextFrameSet* textfs = edit->textFrameSet(); 01:45 < rxr> if ( textfs && textfs->getGroupManager() ) 01:45 < rxr> return static_cast<KWTableFrameSet::Cell *>(textfs)->firstRow(); 01:45 < rxr> @@ -2634,6 +2636,8 @@ 01:45 < rxr> if ( !m_currentFrameSetEdit ) 01:45 < rxr> return -1; 01:45 < rxr> KWTextFrameSetEdit *edit=dynamic_cast<KWTextFrameSetEdit *>(m_currentFrameSetEdit->currentTextEdit()); 01:45 < rxr> + if (!edit) 01:45 < rxr> + return -1; 01:45 < rxr> KWTextFrameSet* textfs = edit->textFrameSet(); 01:45 < rxr> if ( textfs && textfs->getGroupManager() ) 01:45 < rxr> return static_cast<KWTableFrameSet::Cell *>(textfs)->firstCol(); 01:46 < MadTux> grrr... somehow i guessed you would paste the patch... 01:46 < daja77> nice fix ^^ 01:47 < rxr> a dynamic_cast without a 0 check is ill in any way 01:47 < rxr> and the methods -1 in a later error case anyway ... 01:48 < MadTux> ok so prelink builds just perfect 01:49 < MadTux> rxr: i will submit a patch to downgrade prelink, untill whoever (maybe mnemoc again) want to upgrade it provide a patche that fix whatever is making it break 01:49 < rxr> MadTux: could you ask the updatee why it got submitted and for a real fix ? 01:49 < rxr> n8 all 01:49 < daja77> n8 01:49 * daja77 goin too 01:50 < MadTux> rxr: grr.. ok 01:50 < rxr> MadTux: no patch needed - just point me to reverting the changeset in that directory ... 01:50 < MadTux> _PING_ mnemoc 01:50 < MadTux> rxr: to rlml? 01:51 < rxr> nope - just tomorrow when I forget about it ... 01:51 < MadTux> arrgg! 01:51 < MadTux> ok. 01:51 < daja77> calm down 01:51 < daja77> n8 Miguel 01:51 < MadTux> daja77: leaving? 01:52 < daja77> yep it is 2am here 01:52 < hopelessOwl> gn8 MadTux 01:52 < MadTux> daja77: :( 01:52 < MadTux> ok sleep well day 01:52 < mnemoc> re 01:52 < MadTux> hopelessOwl: you too? 01:52 < MadTux> mnemoc: just the mean i wanted to kill.. i mean see 01:52 < mnemoc> ? 01:52 < MadTux> mnemoc: you provided an updated for prelink which was applied on nov 28th.. now prelink is broken.. 01:53 < hopelessOwl> MadTux: nope. not yet. 01:53 < MadTux> why was it updated in the first place? 01:53 < MadTux> hopelessOwl: well i am not leaving :) 01:53 < MadTux> mnemoc: could you please provide a fix to prelink? it is braking on stage3 01:53 < mnemoc> MadTux: in that moment it builded, at least for p2 01:54 < MadTux> mnemoc: i'm using p mmx and it brakes 01:54 < MadTux> rxr had the problem too.. 01:54 < mnemoc> fresk.... 01:54 < mnemoc> freak* 01:54 < mnemoc> i'll add it to current build an see 01:54 < MadTux> please 01:54 < MadTux> :) 01:54 < hopelessOwl> MadTux: hoeh???ß 01:54 < hopelessOwl> now i'm confused 01:55 < MadTux> mnemoc: i asked rxr to revert untill its fixed 01:55 < MadTux> hopelessOwl: daja77 was leaving to bed, not me 01:55 < mnemoc> can you mail me the .err? 01:55 < hopelessOwl> ah so. gn8 daja77 :p 01:55 < hopelessOwl> just read "gn8 Miguel" 01:55 < MadTux> mnemoc: well i reverted myself prelink, but i guess i can, wait 01:55 < MadTux> hopelessOwl: hehe 01:56 < hopelessOwl> MadTux: :p 01:56 < mnemoc> MadTux: can you send me the .err? 01:56 < MadTux> mnemoc: yes hold on a moment :) 01:57 < MadTux> mnemoc: addy 01:58 < MadTux> mnemoc: email address? 01:59 < hopelessOwl> mnemoc: *ping* 01:59 < mnemoc> pong 01:59 < MadTux> amery, mail sent 01:59 < mnemoc> thanks 02:00 < MadTux> mnemoc: no problem. I love bugging :) 02:00 < mnemoc> btw, i do never send untested patches (last 6 month) 02:00 < MadTux> ok. 02:00 < MadTux> :) 02:01 < MadTux> still i hope you don't mind to get reports if any of ur updates causes problems 02:01 < mnemoc> thunderbird crashes :\ 02:01 < MadTux> for prelink? 02:04 < mnemoc> i don't think so, me@winxp :) 02:04 < MadTux> you suck! 02:04 < MadTux> :) 02:04 < mnemoc> :) 02:05 < MadTux> mnemoc: you should be using that computing power for rock 02:05 < mnemoc> bad HD 02:05 < MadTux> resiserfs.. 02:05 < MadTux> reiserfs* 02:06 < mnemoc> smart reliability 62% 02:06 < MadTux> mm... 02:06 < mnemoc> *BAD* disk 02:06 < MadTux> why would you have such .. mm. thing? 02:08 < mnemoc> i couldn't found the invoice on time :( 02:09 < MadTux> ok 02:09 < mnemoc> aaaarg 02:09 < mnemoc> execstack.c:369: error: `PT_GNU_STACK' undeclared 02:09 < MadTux> ah nice so my build is now on stage5 :) 02:09 < MadTux> mnemoc: ah i see you are having fun with my err :) 02:10 < hopelessOwl> gn8 all now 02:10 < MadTux> gn8 owly] 02:10 < hopelessOwl> gn8 Miguel ;) 02:11 < mnemoc> PT_GNU_STACK is part of elf header 02:11 -!- pfred1 [~pfred1@pool-151-198-21-92.mad.east.verizon.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:11 < pfred1> what's rocklinux? 02:11 < MadTux> https://www.rocklinux.org/ 02:12 < pfred1> ah 02:25 -!- jani_ [~jani@ppp114-48.lns1.syd3.internode.on.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 02:37 < MadTux> ok /me leaving home 02:37 < MadTux> cu tomorrow 02:38 < mnemoc> cu Mike1 02:38 < MadTux> according to the gallery i am MadTux :) 02:38 < MadTux> anyways cya 02:38 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has quit "Client Exiting" 02:57 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F48F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 03:00 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit "Terminando cliente" 03:12 < mnemoc> yes!! prelink building :) 03:28 -!- ThePcktMstr [~zen@user-uiver0h.dsl.mindspring.com] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 03:53 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F48F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:56 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-065-107.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 04:01 -!- Some3333 [X@210.186.183.185] has joined #rocklinux 04:02 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-064-039.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:34 -!- cytrinox`- [~dj-nail@p213.54.241.189.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:37 -!- pfred1 [~pfred1@pool-151-198-21-92.mad.east.verizon.net] has quit ".." 04:40 -!- puzzled [~patrick@puzzled.xs4all.nl] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 04:45 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F48F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) 04:54 -!- cytrinox` [~dj-nail@p213.54.217.67.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 05:05 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F48F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:05 -!- Some3333 is now known as Some3333\A 06:07 -!- c0ldshadow [~c0ldshado@c-65-34-199-136.se.client2.attbi.com] has joined #rocklinux 06:08 < c0ldshadow> hey 06:08 -!- c0ldshadow [~c0ldshado@c-65-34-199-136.se.client2.attbi.com] has quit "Client Exiting" 06:12 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F48F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) 06:16 -!- Some3333\A [X@210.186.183.185] has quit "Peace and Protection 4.22" 06:17 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F48F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 06:30 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F48F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 07:00 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F48F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:03 -!- daja77 [[Vt9ukzQaf@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 07:04 -!- ija [[epu7JAta0@134.109.132.94] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 08:08 < maze_fan> moin 08:10 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F48F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 08:15 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F48F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:22 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F48F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 08:23 < netrunner> moin 08:24 < maze_fan> moin netrunner 08:24 < maze_fan> hrm, echo response times ranging in 50k ms and ping shifts... 08:25 < maze_fan> over a fucking 15m distance! 08:28 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F48F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:29 < netrunner> maze_fan: ip over throwing-tennis-balls? 08:30 < maze_fan> something like that 08:30 < maze_fan> a Linksys AP and 802.11g WLAN Card 08:42 < maze_fan> Quality:1/1 Signal level:-64 dBm Noise level:-77 dBm 08:48 < netrunner> maze_fan: 1/1 ... looks weird. 08:53 < maze_fan> linuxant >_< 08:53 < maze_fan> I get 0/0 with ndiswrapper 08:57 < maze_fan> I'll try setting a fixed speed insteaed of auto-discovering best speed 08:58 < maze_fan> gnarf, that damn access point adminweb doesn't work with w3m (way too much javascript 09:57 -!- jani [~jani@ppp116-242.lns1.syd2.internode.on.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:12 -!- YDS [proxyuser@230-128.isdn-dsl.itte.kz] has joined #rocklinux 10:36 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802190.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:36 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 10:36 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [] [Tue Sep 2 15:34:51 2003] 10:36 [Users #rocklinux] 10:36 [ [anders] ] [ cytrinox`- ] [ huebi ] [ mistik1 ] [ netrunner] [ snyke ] 10:36 [ _spectre_ ] [ dev0 ] [ jani ] [ mnemoc ] [ praenti ] [ th ] 10:36 [ Aard ] [ esden ] [ jsaw ] [ Nebukadneza] [ rolla ] [ true ] 10:36 [ blindcoder] [ fake ] [ kasc ] [ netcrow ] [ rxr ] [ WrKRobe] 10:36 [ cchamilt ] [ hopelessOwl] [ maze_fan] [ netrunne1 ] [ SMP ] [ YDS ] 10:36 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 30 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 30 normal] 10:36 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug 3 22:11:35 2003 10:36 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 7 secs 10:38 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 10:38 < maze_fan> 2.0.1 :P 10:38 < maze_fan> brb 10:40 < maze_fan> back 10:48 -!- daja77 [[i7vGrigWA@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:50 < maze_fan> moin daja 10:50 < daja77> moin blindy 10:51 < daja77> they made a kernel update to this machine in the morning ... 10:51 < netrunne1> hi daja77 10:51 < daja77> moin netrunne1 10:51 < maze_fan> daja77: and now nothing works anymore? 10:52 < daja77> irssi killed, logging in again 10:52 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802826.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 10:52 < maze_fan> daja77: I see 10:52 < maze_fan> I think I found the problem with my wlan 10:52 < daja77> nah the automated updates work here at university 10:52 < daja77> cool 10:53 < maze_fan> the AP has values set for RTS and fragmentation threshold 10:53 < maze_fan> the NIC hasn't 10:53 -!- You're now known as netrunner 10:53 < maze_fan> AP: 2346 and 2347 respectively 10:53 < maze_fan> NIC: off and off 10:53 < daja77> ^^ 10:54 < maze_fan> problem: the nic runs on linuxant which isn't able to set these values 10:54 < maze_fan> now I'm struggling to get a mozilla X-Forwarded to my work-machine to log in to my AP and change these values there 10:54 < daja77> ic 10:55 < maze_fan> I can't use w3m since the webinterface for administering the AP is heavily javascript-overkilled 10:55 < daja77> yep that's why I like mozex for editing on pages like that 10:56 < maze_fan> mozex is a console-browser with javascript support? 10:57 < daja77> no mozex is a mozilla extension which allows to use a real editor to edit textarea fields, and some other stuff 10:57 < daja77> so i can use vim to edit wikis 10:58 < netrunner> hm, hdo ist ueber die feiertage zu, wenn wir den termin verschieben koennten, macht die chefin extra fuer mich auf ... 10:58 < netrunner> argl 10:58 < daja77> :) 10:58 < maze_fan> daja77: that doesn't help me here, I need to just change those two values (select-boxes) 10:58 < daja77> ok just like to mention it 10:58 < maze_fan> daja77: no problem :) 11:00 < hopelessOwl> moin *yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn* 11:01 -!- ija [[LU8MLYR5X@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:01 < maze_fan> moin moin 11:02 < hopelessOwl> hi blindy, ija 11:02 * daja77 puts a cookie into owls open mouth 11:02 < ija> hi owl 11:02 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@p5080156F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:03 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F48F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Nick collision from services. 11:03 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 11:03 < hopelessOwl> daja77: pah :p *kick* 11:03 * daja77 notes to never give owl cookies again 11:04 < hopelessOwl> hehe. not while /me is yawning and my "magen signalisiert "magen-darm-grippe immer noch vorhanden"". 11:05 < daja77> but while yawning it is the most fun 11:05 < hopelessOwl> pah :p 11:33 < hopelessOwl> *gnarf* i want a sheet as a handkerchief. daja77 might you will get me some? :p 11:33 * maze_fan hands owl a sheet of paper 11:34 < hopelessOwl> thx. but this is dangerous... :p 11:34 * netrunner hands owl a billiboy-xl. known to be fluid-proof 11:35 < hopelessOwl> *lol* nah. thx. 11:35 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p5080156F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 11:35 < hopelessOwl> .oO(that was too much for blindy's connection) 11:36 < maze_fan> no, the connecction is fine 11:36 < hopelessOwl> but....? 11:37 < maze_fan> it's the shit f8ucking drecksvereckte wlan-connection 11:37 < hopelessOwl> i said it :p 11:37 < maze_fan> the internet connection is fine 11:38 < hopelessOwl> yeah, the inet connection... but we all know that your wlan-connection works with drums and is unstable 11:38 < maze_fan> then if you know already, why don't you make positive suggestion on how to FIX it? 11:39 < hopelessOwl> have i wlan? no. 11:39 < hopelessOwl> https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/tol-10.12.03-002/ 11:40 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p5080156F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:41 < maze_fan> hopelessOwl: then it's time to learn something about it 11:42 < hopelessOwl> maze_fan: sure, if you give me the money to buy a wlan-router and pcmcia-card + pci-card 11:45 < maze_fan> hsopwill do, once you tell me where to find it 11:47 < hopelessOwl> hmmm. i think in the bundesdruckerei 11:47 < maze_fan> so if you already know, why don't you go there? 11:47 < hopelessOwl> hmmm. because i guess it's too much saved... and i don't want to be in prison (?) 11:48 < maze_fan> at least you wouldn't have to worry about life in prison, so it wouldn't be too bad a deal, would it? 11:48 < hopelessOwl> it would. 11:49 < hopelessOwl> and - i guess - in prison there are "daily news", too 11:49 < maze_fan> but they wouldn't concern you anymore 11:49 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p3EE1E296.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 11:49 < maze_fan> because you're not affected by them anymore 11:51 < hopelessOwl> hmmmm. if i would go to the dentist, i guess i would be affected... (e.g. i would have to pay "gebuerhen pro quartal"... etc.) 11:51 < hopelessOwl> btw, i'm shocked: https://www.justizvollzug-bayern.de/JV/Anstalten/JVA_Neuburg_Herrenwoerth/ki/jva_nh << "our" JVA of my home-town 11:53 < maze_fan> no browser right now, please details 11:54 < hopelessOwl> you can get certificates there (e.g. for CAD-courses, computerfuerherschein), can do ausbildungen, get berufsschulunterricht, can get a schulabschluss etc. 11:57 < hopelessOwl> .oO(some "knastis" seems to have it better than some "azubis" *puke*) 11:58 < maze_fan> please, not into this channel 11:58 < maze_fan> who do you think will clean that up, hm? 11:58 < hopelessOwl> hehe. you :p 11:58 < maze_fan> Okay, that makes 500 EUR per day and person 11:58 < hopelessOwl> nah. don't have so much money 11:59 < maze_fan> then clkean up behind you yourself 11:59 < hopelessOwl> eh, i'm ill. i'm allowed to puke 12:00 < maze_fan> yes, but then you have to clean up 12:01 < hopelessOwl> nope. otherwise i will puke even more 12:01 < maze_fan> then don't do it in the first place 12:02 < hopelessOwl> hmm. i will do :p 12:02 < maze_fan> good 12:06 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p5080156F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 12:07 * netrunner organizing easterhegg 04 in munich, anybody ideas wher I could get rooms? 12:07 < hopelessOwl> easterhegg???????? 12:09 < maze_fan> easterhegg in munich? nice :) 12:10 < netrunner> yeah, still searching for rooms. join #ccc on irc.blafasel.de if you'd like to help. (ger) 12:10 * netrunner -> uni 12:12 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@p5080156F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:14 < maze_fan> hrm, signal level: -72dBm noise level: -74dBm 12:39 < cytrinox`-> moin 12:43 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@p5080156F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 12:43 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p5080156F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:45 < daja77> blindcoder is having irc sex ... 12:51 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p5080156F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 12:54 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p5080156F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:24 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-020.arcor-ip.net] has quit "Client exiting" 13:24 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-020.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:25 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-020.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 13:25 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-020.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:28 < maze_fan> daja77: something like that 13:29 < maze_fan> and it doesn't satisfy me at all 13:31 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux 13:31 < LocalHero> Hi all 13:32 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p5080156F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 13:34 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@p5080156F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:36 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-020.arcor-ip.net] has quit "Client exiting" 13:37 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-020.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:37 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-020.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 13:37 < daja77> maze_fan: i said nothing about satisfaction :) 13:37 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-020.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:37 < daja77> hey nebu joins blindy 13:38 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@p5080156F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 13:39 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@p5080156F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:40 < maze_fan> daja77: yeah, now we're doing it together :) 13:44 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@p5080156F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 13:48 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@p5080156F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:54 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@p5080156F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 13:54 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p5080156F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:21 < daja77> hehe :) 14:28 < maze_fan> the network is now kinda stabble... 20% packet loss 14:30 * daja77 now playing around with openracer 14:35 < daja77> this sucks 14:37 < daja77> nice this src is two years old ... doesn't compile 14:37 < maze_fan> oh 14:37 < daja77> configure: error: Your copy of glx.h is out of date. You can get a more recent copy from the latest Mesa distribution (https://mesa3d.sourceforge.net). 14:37 < daja77> wtf 14:37 < maze_fan> hehe 14:38 < daja77> first fix was to let configure search for tcl8.4 instead of 8.3 ... 14:38 < maze_fan> don't remind me of tcl... 14:38 < daja77> sorry _they_ did it 14:38 < maze_fan> we really should have a few symlinks tcl -> tcl8.4 tk -> wish -> a.s.o. 14:39 < daja77> yep in that case configure would have found it 14:39 < maze_fan> yeah, I had that with some other program, too 14:39 < daja77> autoconf crap ... 14:40 < maze_fan> indeed 14:41 < daja77> 14:38 < HolyMan> Debian Woody hat 'ne fertige Version mit drin 14:41 < daja77> 14:38 < daja77> das openracer projekt läuft wohl nicht so gut 14:41 < daja77> 14:38 < HolyMan> .o(OK - das ist vermutlich auch 2 Jahre alt...) 14:41 < daja77> ^^ 14:42 < maze_fan> harr 14:43 < daja77> but true 14:44 < daja77> ok let's grad their prelease 14:45 < daja77> openracer multimedia release, whatever that means 14:46 < maze_fan> it sounds cool, doesn't it? 14:46 < daja77> yep and it is huge ... 14:47 < maze_fan> sound and raphics, I assume 14:47 -!- WrKRobe [robe@das.geizhals.buero.ist.geiler.at] has quit Read error: 113 (No route to host) 14:47 < daja77> yep 14:55 < daja77> 14:46 <+dmp> Why not use a distro that has a package for it? 14:55 < daja77> 14:46 <+dmp> Debian / RedHat do(did) 14:55 < daja77> grrrrr 14:58 < maze_fan> hehe 14:59 < maze_fan> <flame>because those distros suck</flame> 14:59 < daja77> nah i will not start such a flame on xbox-linux chan ^^ 14:59 < daja77> only flamed a stupid australian there 15:00 < maze_fan> okay :) 15:02 * daja77 needs entertainment 15:03 < daja77> Mike: where are you?! 15:04 < daja77> weee clifford enabled ssl for flyspray and typo3 15:05 * Aard entertains daja with tabledancing 15:05 < daja77> thx Aard 15:05 * daja77 watching 15:05 -!- tobias [tobias@pD9EE3B67.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:05 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p5080156F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 15:06 * daja77 recently watched some cute girls do table dancing 15:08 * maze_fan hasn't seen any cute girls sunce last saturday 15:09 * daja77 received a phone call from his favourite some minutes ago 15:09 < daja77> ^^ 15:10 < maze_fan> :( 15:10 < daja77> poor blindy 15:10 < rolla> re 15:10 < rolla> is rxr here? 15:10 < daja77> hi rolla 15:10 < maze_fan> hi rolla 15:10 < maze_fan> rolla: don't think so 15:10 < daja77> not yet 15:10 < rolla> :( 15:19 < daja77> 15:09 < FluFF> about fdisk you can read this in the man page: 15:19 < daja77> 15:09 < FluFF> fdisk is a buggy program that does fuzzy things - usually 15:19 < daja77> 15:09 < FluFF> it happens to produce reasonable results. 15:19 < daja77> ah yes 15:19 < maze_fan> sounds about right 15:20 < daja77> :) 15:21 < maze_fan> no traffic jams on A9 right now... I hope that doesn't change 15:21 < daja77> smewher on the a9 there is traffic jam i guess ^^ 15:22 < maze_fan> yeah, and if I'm lucky I'll crash right into it 15:22 < daja77> guess in the halle-leipzig area 15:22 < maze_fan> not the part I need to drive 15:22 < daja77> i know :p 15:23 -!- dev0 [tobias@pD953C954.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 15:24 -!- tobias is now known as dev0 15:25 < daja77> this sucks, media tarball only contains pics and stuff, not a tiny bit of new src since 2001, crap 15:28 < maze_fan> hrm 15:29 < maze_fan> blecch, don't want to type 20 pages of documentation 15:29 < daja77> hm? 15:30 < maze_fan> for x in `seq 1 20` ; do echo "This page intentionally left blank" >> documentation.txt; done 15:30 < maze_fan> s/blank/blank^L/ 15:31 < daja77> nice found a probable workaround on flightgear ml 15:31 < maze_fan> daja77: a project I've been doin at HVBinfo 15:32 < maze_fan> and now there are 4 days left with nothing to do --> writing documentation >_< 15:33 < daja77> m4 sucks 15:35 < maze_fan> yes, I hear that sometimes 15:37 < daja77> aaaaaargh 15:43 < maze_fan> hm? 15:48 < daja77> this auctoconf crap gives me the creeps 15:49 < maze_fan> heh, I know how you feel :) 15:49 < maze_fan> anyway, I'm leaving 15:49 < maze_fan> baba 15:49 < daja77> cu blindy 15:56 -!- YDS [proxyuser@230-128.isdn-dsl.itte.kz] has quit "I go in hacked world............ :(" 15:58 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: fake 15:58 -!- Netsplit over, joins: fake 15:59 < daja77> *yes* i fixed it 16:10 < esden> wee it works my tripple nested ssh/cat hack works! 16:10 < esden> hi all sbtw 16:21 < esden> and cu all ... 16:32 -!- OffToWar [~zen@user-2ivek90.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 16:39 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD90056E9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:54 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has quit 16:59 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FD25.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:04 < blindcoder> WEE! Brought packet loss to ~5% 17:10 < daja77> wb blindy :)) 17:10 * daja77 played openracer meanwhile ^^ 17:11 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD900570E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:15 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FD25.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit "Reconnecting" 17:16 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FD25.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:17 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD90056E9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 17:25 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FD25.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 19:57 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FD25.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:08 < netrunner> https://www.runicsoft.com/images/scutr.jpg 20:15 -!- jani [~jani@ppp116-242.lns1.syd2.internode.on.net] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 20:16 < hopelessOwl> blindcoder: how? 20:24 < rolla> re 20:29 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:29 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:29 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:29 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:30 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:30 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:30 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:30 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:30 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:30 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:30 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:30 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:30 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:30 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:30 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:30 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:30 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:30 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:30 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:30 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:30 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:30 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:30 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:30 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:30 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:30 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:30 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:38 -!- jani [~jani@ppp115-177.lns1.syd3.internode.on.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:45 < netrunner> lalala 20:46 -!- dev0 [tobias@pD9EE3B67.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux ["Leaving"] 20:50 -!- hopelessOwl is now known as owl 20:50 -!- John_Lennon [~chatzilla@as8-200-76-195-25.mtyxl.axtel.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:50 < rolla> https://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103_2-5118676.html 20:50 < rolla> too cool 20:51 < John_Lennon> what's rock linux? 20:51 < netrunner> John_Lennon: a music style. like classic rock. ;) 20:52 < owl> *lol* 20:52 < netrunner> John_Lennon: a distribution build kit. see https://www.rocklinux.org for details. 20:52 < John_Lennon> thanks 20:59 -!- John_Lennon [~chatzilla@as8-200-76-195-25.mtyxl.axtel.net] has left #rocklinux [] 21:00 < rolla> guess he didn't like our kind of music 21:03 < owl> hahaha. poor boy 21:05 < rxr> re 21:06 < mnemoc> re 21:06 < rxr> hi mnemoc 21:06 < mnemoc> hi rxr 21:06 < owl> hi rxr , mnemoc 21:07 < rxr> hi owl 21:07 < mnemoc> hi roastedOwl 21:08 < owl> roasted? 21:08 * mnemoc wants to eat an owl 21:09 * owl gives mnemoc some cheese-"platten" 21:10 < mnemoc> cool :) 21:10 < owl> hoeh? why cool? O_o 21:11 -!- OffToWar [~zen@user-2ivek90.dialup.mindspring.com] has quit Connection timed out 21:11 < mnemoc> *g* 21:14 -!- Freak [freak@helena.bawue.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:14 < owl> hi Freak 21:14 < Freak> at last! 21:14 < Freak> I shall return. 21:15 < Freak> I'm frustrated. my university doesn't serve me with a linux/ppc-vpn-client. 21:15 < rxr> Freak: hm? 21:15 < owl> you're studying? O_o 21:16 < Freak> rxr: yup. 21:16 < owl> Freak: use vmware and windows-vpn-software? 21:16 < Freak> university of karlsruhe doesn't have a ppc bin. 21:16 < rxr> Freak: use the ipsec 2.6 backport on linux 2.4 with the OpenBSD isakmpd 21:16 < Freak> uhm? vmware, windows, ppc? 21:16 < Freak> rxr: wtf? 21:17 < mnemoc> what kind of vpn do htey have? 21:17 < rxr> Freak: I guess your uni is using a checkpoint or simillar hw ip-sec solution ? 21:17 < daja77> hi Freak 21:17 < rxr> hi daja77 21:17 < daja77> hi rxr 21:17 < Freak> rxr: I have no idea. 21:17 < Freak> hey daja77 21:18 < owl> .oO(i feel reminded on fscking work *hrhr*) 21:19 < rxr> Freak: then just ask them ... 21:20 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 21:20 < mnemoc> hi blindy@tennis-balls-network 21:20 < rxr> me away consuming some food 21:20 < rxr> hi blindcoder 21:20 < blindcoder> owl: I moved the AP to be directly above the NIC, changed the antennae to point downwards and switched from linuxant to ndiswrapper 21:20 < blindcoder> hi mnemoc 21:20 < blindcoder> hi rxr 21:20 < daja77> Freak: how are you 21:20 < owl> wb blindy 21:21 < mnemoc> blindcoder: AND? 21:21 < rxr> ;-) 21:21 < blindcoder> mnemoc: <5% packet loss 21:21 < Freak> rxr: sorry, was a bit busy atm. I will. for sure. There must be a way. and then I shall return on linux/ppc ;) 21:21 < Freak> daja77: fine actually, thanks. 21:22 < daja77> good 21:22 < mnemoc> blindcoder: much better but still sucks :\ 21:22 < blindcoder> btw: can anyone resolve www.animefiles.org? 21:23 < blindcoder> mnemoc: indeed, but it's wlan through a wall, so I think the only thing where I can still improve the connection would be a connection without any obstacles 21:23 < mnemoc> blindcoder: nope 21:23 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB44A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:23 < mnemoc> blindcoder: have you tested on the same side of the wall? 21:24 < blindcoder> damn, and all that was left were 10 % >_< 21:25 < blindcoder> mnemoc: yes, there I had only a few lost packets in ping -c 50000 -f router 21:25 < blindcoder> < 50 21:25 < tcr> moin all 21:25 < blindcoder> moin tcr 21:25 < tcr> Pascal is such a crappy language 21:25 < daja77> hehe 21:25 < blindcoder> I liked pascal 21:26 < blindcoder> was the first language I programmed in 21:26 < daja77> modula is worse 21:26 < tcr> it doesn't seem to have string constants over several lines long 21:26 < mnemoc> blindcoder: gwbasic was cool :) 21:26 < blindcoder> hmm... afaik it hadn't 21:27 < blindcoder> mnemoc: yeah, learnt that a few months later 21:27 < blindcoder> didn't like it 21:28 < mnemoc> OMG the maillists of clip are in russian :( 21:29 < owl> clip? 21:29 < owl> url please? 21:29 < tcr> blindcoder, I find pascal's overwhelmingly-long-named keyword so annoying that I want to quit everytime I have to do something 21:29 < mnemoc> https://www.itk.ru/english/clip/aboutclip.shtml 21:29 < tcr> keywords 21:30 < mnemoc> a clipper elf compiler with native support for postgres, oreacle, etc. 21:31 < owl> ok... 21:31 < owl> mailinglist? am i blind? 21:32 < mnemoc> https://www.itk.ru/english/subscribe.shtml :) 21:32 < blindcoder> tcr: example? 21:33 < owl> *hrhr* oki. 21:33 < tcr> blindcoder, best example are the most annyoing begin/end's for block definition 21:34 < tcr> blocks are generally used a lot 21:34 < owl> mnemoc: might you should try icq and search for the names of the developer and add them... (most russian programmers i know use icq - even at work) - and try to get help by them, by this way 21:34 < blindcoder> tcr: hmm... I once heard of a C header file which translated Pascal into C... 21:35 < mnemoc> owl: thanks :) 21:35 < blindcoder> #define BEGIN { 21:35 < blindcoder> #define END } 21:35 < owl> de nada 21:35 < blindcoder> and such 21:35 < tcr> blindcoder, I bet that person didn't live long ;) 21:35 < blindcoder> hehe 21:41 < blindcoder> hmmm new version of both nethack and bzflag 21:42 < blindcoder> bzflag breaking backwards compatibility 21:47 * blindcoder waiting for saishu heiki kanojo LVP being ready :) 21:47 < blindcoder> *ding* there it is :) 21:47 * blindcoder back tomorrow 21:48 < blindcoder> good night! 21:49 < ija> good night blindcoder 21:58 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB44A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit "Leaving" 22:10 < owl> gn8 22:12 < mnemoc> n8 owl 22:12 < owl> gn8 mnemoc 22:15 < rxr> re 22:15 < daja77> wb 22:20 < rxr> today I did more kword work then ROCK work ... 22:27 < netrunner> n8 22:36 < daja77> can you send them fixes now? 22:57 < mnemoc> aaarg... i can't find the tarball of glibc-2.3.3 :( 23:06 < rxr> daja77: already send them two - but the mailing list manager does reply that my address is not subscribed - which it is ... - they wait for admin approval, now ... 23:17 < daja77> ic 23:19 < rxr> the sbp2 firewire driver seems to need DevFS fixes ... 23:19 < daja77> rxr: do you have a minute? 23:20 < rxr> jups 23:23 -!- OffToWar [~zen@user-uivened.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 23:23 < mnemoc> Either pick it up from your favourite distro, or grab it from CVS 23:23 < mnemoc> (that's where the vast majority of distros grab it from). 23:23 < mnemoc> Jakub 23:29 < rxr> mnemoc: are those GNU dungs joking ?!?!?!?!?!? 23:31 < rxr> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:11:02 -0800 23:31 < rxr> glibc release procedures are changing and still in the process of being 23:31 < rxr> hashed out. 23:31 < rxr> Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com> 23:31 < mnemoc> :-| 23:32 < daja77> after i fixed tux/openracer i could do a package for it, any objections? 23:32 < rxr> nope 23:33 < daja77> ok but not today :) 23:43 < mnemoc> rxr: https://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/libc/ChangeLog?cvsroot=glibc 23:43 < mnemoc> take a look to the deep descriptions to of the changelog 23:49 < mnemoc> i think i'll create glibc-devel package 23:54 -!- ierk [~bg@shell.blacknet.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:54 < ierk> re 23:55 < ierk> aaargh. I hate the installer (on the 3cd install set) 23:57 < mnemoc> ? 23:59 < ierk> mnemoc: i dl'ed the 3cds, burned them and tried to install. --- Log closed Don Dez 11 00:00:27 2003