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--- Log opened Fri Dec 19 00:00:03 2003 00:14 -!- elon [~afgh@dialin-145-254-058-220.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("im off") 00:53 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-063-098.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02:16 < mnemoc> what a fight is herbert poetzl (vserser) having with parisc-linux ppl =) 02:16 < mnemoc> (trying to register a syscall) 02:16 < mnemoc> iirc he was with clifford on some meeting short time ago 02:26 * daja77 met him on dev meeting 02:26 < mnemoc> hi daja77 02:27 < daja77> hi mnemoc 02:30 < mnemoc> what are you doing at this time of the night? (trying to create talking) 02:34 * daja77 on the phone 02:35 < daja77> and playing monkey island mp3s 02:35 < mnemoc> monkey island mp3s?? from where? 02:36 < daja77> some friends 02:36 < mnemoc> cool 02:36 * daja77 got the games too for scummvm 02:38 < daja77> https://lospalmos.homelinux.net/mnemoc 02:39 < mnemoc> =) 02:39 < mnemoc> thank you!! 02:39 < daja77> np :) 02:39 < daja77> beware this server is slow (isdn) 02:41 < daja77> one is a rock version :)) 02:41 < mnemoc> :) 02:43 < mnemoc> why 'lospalmos'? 02:43 < daja77> have that doamin too, lospalmos.net 02:44 < mnemoc> but... does it mean somehitng? sound like a place 02:45 < daja77> at that time i thought about a domain i was about to travel to southern france, and creating a talk about PamlOS :D 02:45 < daja77> PalmOS 02:45 < mnemoc> lol 02:46 < daja77> https://www-usercgi.tu-chemnitz.de/~jahre/home/start.php?gi=lectures&li=palmlin 02:48 < daja77> sorry started rock src download atm, hope your downloads will be fine anyway 02:49 * daja77 off to bed now 02:50 < mnemoc> good night daja 02:52 < mnemoc> thanks a lot for the mp3s 04:31 -!- cytrinox` [~dj-nail@p213.54.221.200.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:48 -!- cytrinox`- [~dj-nail@p213.54.201.169.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:01 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 05:04 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-41-132.reverse.qsc.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:58 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-27-183.reverse.qsc.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:07 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-27-224.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 06:23 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07:03 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-035.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:08 < netrunner> moin 07:12 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-052-200.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07:30 < Aard> moin netrunner 07:31 * netrunner -> uni 07:31 < netrunner> moin Aard :) 07:32 < Aard> netrunner: any hints where to find documentation on animated x cursors? 07:51 -!- Baldzius [~user@212.122.72.33] has joined #rocklinux 07:51 < Baldzius> hi :) 08:34 -!- Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: sekhmet 08:34 -!- Netsplit over, joins: sekhmet 08:38 -!- Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: mistik1, snyke, huebi, sekhmet, fake, owl, dsoul, daja77, Robe_, Nebukadneza`, (+7 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 08:38 -!- Netsplit over, joins: sekhmet, Nebukadneza`, holyolli, blindcoder, dsoul, cchamilt, huebi, owl, snyke, maze_fan (+7 more) 08:39 -!- Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: sekhmet 08:39 -!- Netsplit over, joins: sekhmet 08:42 -!- MadTux [~mike@196.40.62.140] has joined #rocklinux 08:42 < MadTux> moin all 08:47 < SMP> hi Mike 08:49 -!- Baldzius [~user@212.122.72.33] has quit () 08:49 < MadTux> hello Stefan. 09:23 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-41-241.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 09:35 < rxr_> re 09:35 < MadTux> hi rxr 09:36 < rxr_> hi MadTux 09:42 < holyolli> moin 09:44 < holyolli> hola MadTux 09:44 < MadTux> Olli! 09:46 < holyolli> :) 09:47 < holyolli> MadTux: did everything worked with your flight? 09:48 < MadTux> no it didn't. 09:48 < holyolli> :( 09:48 < MadTux> I decided to pospone the trip for now. :( 09:48 < holyolli> but why...there were free seats on all of them 09:48 < MadTux> will wait for low seasson 09:48 < MadTux> I called and they said there weren't 09:49 < holyolli> strange 09:49 < MadTux> tell me about it :( 09:51 < holyolli> did you get my msgs 2 days ago? 09:51 < MadTux> yes i did. sorry i didn't reply, i've been very busy lately 09:51 < holyolli> no prob 09:51 < MadTux> query 10:22 < rxr_> this is so damn fustrating - the kde-3.2 stuff just builds fine on x86 - and even the basic Qt crashes horrible on PowerPC 10:22 < MadTux> grrr... 10:24 < rxr_> damn dynamic linker ... 10:24 < rxr_> has mnemoc reported any success with the glibc CVS checkout ? 10:25 < MadTux> not that i know.. 10:32 < rxr_> ok - cu later 11:02 < daja77> moin 11:02 < MadTux> hi Dany :) 11:03 < daja77> hi Miguel 11:20 < fake> hi 11:20 < daja77> hi fake 11:20 < MadTux> 'lo fake 11:21 < cytrinox`> moin 11:21 < MadTux> hi cytrinox` 11:25 * daja77 off cu later 12:01 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-063-078.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:30 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-035.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 12:31 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-035.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:52 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4F61D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:52 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FD19.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 12:52 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 12:54 -!- MadTux [~mike@196.40.62.140] has quit ("Client Exiting") 13:28 -!- LimeLoop [LimeLoop@m-147.vc-graz.ac.at] has joined #rocklinux 13:28 < LimeLoop> hi 13:33 < daja77> hi LimeLoop 13:34 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has joined #rocklinux 13:34 < mnemoc> re 13:34 < daja77> wb mnemoc 13:34 < mnemoc> i loose my uptime :( 13:34 < daja77> *gg* 13:35 < daja77> you got the files` 13:35 < daja77> ? 13:35 < LimeLoop> did clifford wrote somethin today? 13:35 < mnemoc> no file lost :) 13:35 < daja77> :)) 13:35 < daja77> no he hasn't 13:41 < mnemoc> rxr will have a hell job reading the ML when we returns ;-) 13:41 < daja77> wasn#t that much traffic 13:42 < mnemoc> not yet :)) 13:42 < daja77> hehe 13:43 < mnemoc> may be i'll wait until next 'applied'-round 13:45 -!- dsoul [darksoul@pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:24 -!- dsoul [darksoul@pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl] has joined #rocklinux 14:28 < rxr_> mnemoc: hi 14:28 < daja77> hi rxr 14:28 < rxr_> mnemoc: what is the status of a glibc snapshot package and the iproute2 updarte ? 14:31 < rxr_> hi daja77 14:34 < mnemoc> rxr_ i have a building iproue2-ahu-head 14:34 < mnemoc> but glibc233 don't want to build 14:36 < mnemoc> i though about skiping nptl on stage 0 14:36 < mnemoc> but thi box is as updated as the toolsdir of the build 14:37 < mnemoc> then i guess it will fail on stage 1 too 14:39 < mnemoc> i'll mail them today 14:40 < mnemoc> google said the problem is solved with binuitls .0.5 but i'm using .0.7 14:42 < mnemoc> do u want to update for rc4? 14:43 < rxr_> mnemoc: when you disable ntpl it builds? 14:44 < rxr_> not for -rc4 - but for my iBook to see if it fixes the dynamic linker ... 14:44 < mnemoc> not tested yet... let's do it :) 14:44 < rxr_> we do not yet need ntpl 14:45 < rxr_> can you send me the iproute2 and glibc diff just as they are - so I can pla with them ? ;-) 14:46 < mnemoc> i'm playing with my smtp right now but after that i'll send you the diffs 14:58 < mnemoc> brb 14:59 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9005727.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:03 < SMP> NPTL is tricky, I tried building glibc-2.3.2 with it 15:03 < rxr_> SMP: ack 15:10 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p5080281C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:21 -!- LimeLoop [LimeLoop@m-147.vc-graz.ac.at] has quit ("Leaving") 15:21 < SMP> NPTL needs GCC-3.3 and GCC-3.3 need a glibc with a threading implemenation, so stage 0 needs to be built with LinuxThreads 15:28 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p5080255F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:30 < SMP> or maybe stage 1, too? can't remember... 15:59 -!- cytrinox` [~dj-nail@p213.54.221.200.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:26 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-035.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:42 < mnemoc> re 16:42 < rxr_> hi mnemoc 16:43 < rxr_> oh: 16:43 < rxr_> top - 16:44:24 up 97 days, 17:32, 20 users, load average: 14.54, 13.66, 13.39 16:43 < mnemoc> i had 167 days :( until last night 16:44 < rxr_> nah - I mean my load ;-) 16:44 < rxr_> but I want to boot into an updated kernel tonight ... 16:44 < mnemoc> 2.6.0? 16:44 < rxr_> hm - most memory intensive app on the server (with subversion and all) is: 16:44 < rxr_> 27422 rene 9 0 128m 77m 63m S 0.0 15.3 91:37.67 xemacs 16:44 < rxr_> mnemoc: nah 16:45 < rxr_> # cat /proc/version 16:45 < rxr_> Linux version 2.4.21-rock 16:45 < rxr_> so 2.4.23-rock 16:45 < rxr_> ;-) 16:45 < rxr_> maybe with -ipsec patch - I need to think about this later 16:45 < rxr_> the 2.4.21 kernel seems to have some bugs: 16:45 < rxr_> 4 root 9 0 0 0 0 Z 0.0 0.0 12:28.59 kswapd <defunct> 16:45 < rxr_> ... 16:45 < mnemoc> :o 16:46 < rxr_> and the IO performance is not like it was when I first booted the kernel (and what I'm used to) 16:46 < rxr_> the high load values might be related to the general IO unresponsiveness ... 16:47 < mnemoc> i use/want to believe that this entropy is exclusive to windows :( 16:48 < rxr_> sure windows is much worse - and usually I do not have such problem 16:48 < rxr_> +s 16:48 < rxr_> this is the first time - and it get's annoying 16:48 < rxr_> I also think the people did to much on 2.4 - too much changes with too less releases ... 16:50 < rxr_> mnemoc: glibc patch? 16:56 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1C711.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:59 < mnemoc> ehm... i'll have to re-open mutt :-\ 16:59 < mnemoc> 9786 mails to download 17:01 < mnemoc> can i set somekind of 'imap-cache' in mutt? 17:07 < rxr_> don't know ... 17:08 < rxr_> (never used mutt) 17:10 < mnemoc> rxr: glibc23 sent to gmx.net 17:15 < rxr_> mnemoc: thanks 17:15 < SMP> no, mutt has no offline cache. why do you have such such folders? ;) and most of all, why do you need to open it in order to send a mail..? ;) 17:16 < SMP> s,such,huge,2 17:17 < mnemoc> after some buggy rule application with thunderbird my inbox got x4 17:18 < mnemoc> i had an pre-opened mutt (inside an screen) for 167 days but last night the electricity failed 3 time and the UPS couldn't help me :( 17:18 < SMP> is 710MB enough for src.* in a build? 17:20 < mnemoc> mm.. not so sure 17:39 < rolla> re 17:45 < mnemoc> wb rolla 17:51 < rolla> thanks 18:15 < rxr_> SMP: for some big stuff - like mozilla 710 MB might be too small 18:30 < holyolli> re 18:32 * rolla is compiling kernel 2.6 18:34 < mnemoc> rxr: why did you 'half-apply' the fix for subversion? 18:34 < mnemoc> did you can build it without removing bdb40.patch?? 18:46 < mnemoc> wb holyolli@de :) 18:47 < holyolli> hi mnemoc@cl ;-) 18:47 < holyolli> .oO(i hope .cl is chile... ;-) 18:50 < mnemoc> yep ;) 18:51 < mnemoc> are you at .de to stay there or just 'holydays'? 18:58 < daja77> re 18:59 < mnemoc> hi daja 19:08 < rxr_> mnemoc: thanks for the reminder 19:09 < Aard> any hints how to change the X11 mousecursor (xfree 4.3) without resterting X? 19:09 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAE5E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:11 < tcr> moin all 19:11 < rxr_> Aard: jups: 19:11 < rxr_> https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/oss/darkglass/ 19:12 < rxr_> but this only affects newly start applications - if the program has no support to change the cursor after it is started (none has this yet I guess) 19:12 < rxr_> started even 19:14 < Aard> hm, it only affects newly started applications from that term 19:15 < mnemoc> ehm... make[1]: Cross_CC_not_built_so_far_cc: Command not found 19:15 < Aard> there _must_ be a way to change the global X cursor -- iirc latest gnome uses that 19:17 < rxr_> mnemoc: ? 19:18 < mnemoc> building 1-iproute2 19:18 < mnemoc> but i guess it's not related with iproute2 19:22 < rxr_> mnemoc: the glibc mails does not seem to have arrived yet 19:22 < mnemoc> mmm 19:22 < mnemoc> @gmx.net ? 19:25 < rxr_> send it to rene@rocklinux.org - it is the easiest - but yes it has not yet arrived 19:31 < rxr_> I reboot my server now ... 19:31 < rxr_> cu 19:31 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-41-241.reverse.qsc.de] has quit ("leaving") 19:34 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F61D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:41 -!- rene [~rene@port-212-202-41-241.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:41 < rene> re 19:41 -!- rene is now known as rxr 19:41 < rxr> ok - 2.4.23 up 19:41 < rxr> hopefully we have not so many local root exploits in it, soon ... 19:44 < tcr> Apropos kernels, anyone running 2.6 with lvm? 19:45 < SMP> tcr: absolutely 19:45 < tcr> SMP, heh I guessed you are :) 19:45 < tcr> SMP, last time I tried I ran into problems with out lvm tools, I guess, they're not lvm2 compliant 19:45 < tcr> may that be? 19:46 < tcr> s,out,our, 19:46 < SMP> uhm 19:46 < SMP> no, you need device-mapper and LVM2 tools 19:46 < tcr> Actually I checked the source package (that we ship) and the readme said that it should understand lvm2 19:46 < tcr> Well that means if I got it right 19:47 < tcr> SMP: device mapper? Wasn't that some kernel patch? 19:47 < SMP> 1.0.8 != 2 ;) 19:47 < tcr> SMP: wait 19:47 < SMP> no, dm is the std. and only API in 2.6 for this 19:48 < SMP> both LVM2 and EVMS are just frontends to it 19:48 < SMP> LVM2 is rather lightweight compared to LVM(1) 19:49 < SMP> you can patch dm into 2.4 and use LVM2 on that, too. 19:49 < SMP> I tested a migration from LVM to dm/LVM2 with 2.4 kernel. even that works nicely 19:50 < tcr> SMP: k, found a link to dm and lvm2 on the sistina homepage 19:50 < SMP> there is one thing that I don't understand about LVM2 19:50 < tcr> SMP, see what made me think that 1.0.8 is capable of grokking lvm2 is this readme: ftp://ftp.sistina.com/pub/LVM/1.0/README 19:50 < SMP> it seems to be impossible to have more than 9 active LVs in a VG at any one time 19:51 < tcr> second paragraph 19:51 < SMP> oh, yeah, the stupid metadata change in beta7 19:51 < SMP> it sucked. they fixed it in beta8 19:51 < tcr> I somewhat misinterpretated "new format (version 2)" :) 19:52 < SMP> LVM2 uses an even different format, but it recognizes LVM metadata and can (optionally?) upgrade it 19:52 < tcr> SMP, (re: maximum of 9 active lvs in a vg) Really?! 19:53 < tcr> Guess what I'm having 10 in one vg at the moment 19:53 < SMP> me too 19:53 < SMP> I specifically tested latest kernel, dm and LVM2 packages 19:53 < tcr> SMP: do I need to adjust rock init scripts ? 19:54 < SMP> of course you have - because ROCK init scripts are rather stupid 19:55 < rxr> mnemoc: arround ? 19:55 < mnemoc> pong 19:55 < rxr> mnemoc: does the try glibc compile for you ? 19:56 < mnemoc> fails as the mail to the list said 19:56 * tcr lols at stupid sistina advertising tricks 19:56 < mnemoc> CFI s.th not availabel 19:56 < mnemoc> available* 19:56 < mnemoc> didn't test 'disabling' nptl 19:57 < rxr> ok - I give it a prefix=/opt/glibc233 try on PowerPC 19:58 < SMP> tcr: also some of the more advanced functions^Whacks of LVM are still incomplete in LVM2 19:59 < tcr> SMP: I'm using lvm just to give devices more reasonable names and for resizing on demand (well I had to mirror some partition in past too) 20:00 < SMP> PV VG Fmt Attr PSize PFree 20:00 < SMP> /dev/discs/disc0/part8 vg00 lvm2 a- 70,43G 6,94G 20:00 < SMP> incredible how 'small' an 80Gig HD can be ;( 20:00 < rxr> has anyone done a gcc33 build recently ? 20:01 < SMP> tcr: I run '/sbin/vgchange --ignorelockingfailure -ay' from /etc/conf/devfs 20:01 < rxr> mnemoc: 20:01 < rxr> checking size of long double... 8 20:01 < rxr> running configure fragment for sysdeps/powerpc/powerpc32/elf 20:01 < rxr> running configure fragment for nptl/sysdeps/pthread 20:01 < rxr> configure: error: compiler support for __thread is required 20:01 < mnemoc> :| 20:02 < SMP> rxr: what's your host compiler? 20:02 < mnemoc> gcc-33 20:02 < rxr> gcc-3.2.3 20:02 < SMP> well you can't build NPTL with < 3.3 20:02 < SMP> it lacks TLS 20:03 < tcr> SMP: does that lvm2 tarball contain replacements for the old programms of the lvm1 package? 20:03 < rxr> SMP: I do not want that crap - I just want a glibc where the dyn-linker is not that buggy for PowerPC as the 3.2.3 stuff is 20:03 < rxr> why can't they do maintenance 2.3 releases and put new - defunct crap - into 2.4 20:03 < rxr> 3.4 even 20:04 < SMP> tcr: it contains a superset of the lvm1 programs 20:04 < SMP> rxr: then why are you looking into NPTL? just disable it and use LinuxThreads ... 20:05 < rxr> SMP: I just reported what the try package mnemoc sent me results in 20:05 < rxr> SMP: --without-__thread ? 20:05 < rxr> SMP: and the configure could do this itselfs ... 20:05 < SMP> I don't know how to disable NPTL 20:05 < mnemoc> --without-nptl i guess 20:05 < tcr> SMP: wee, did you uninstall the files of the rock pkg? Then built the new lvm2 stuff and lived with it? If not, do you think it's safe, as something could go wrong... 20:06 < mnemoc> or remove that bastard from SUBDIRS 20:07 < rxr> mnemoc: my configure has no --without-nptl ... 20:07 -!- holyolli_ [~holyolli@port-212-202-27-224.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:07 < mnemoc> :( 20:07 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1C711.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20:07 < holyolli_> re 20:07 < mnemoc> cd src.glibc23*; cd glibc*; grep nptl * 20:08 < mnemoc> it has no be somewhere 20:08 < rxr> grep -r if you want useful output .. 20:09 < SMP> tcr: well first of all you will need to boot a 2.6 kernel or 2.4 patched with device-mapper to make use of LVM2 utils at all. when I tested the migration, I had a rescue root. best bet would be to back up the lvm package on the non-lvm / filesystem and install the new one. you might have to run vgscan in single-user from the new kernel ... 20:11 < tcr> SMP: I don't think I understand you. What exactly do you mean with "make use of LVM2 utils at all"? 20:11 < SMP> you cannot replace LVM utils with LVM2 utils. 20:12 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-27-224.reverse.qsc.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20:12 < rxr> mnemoc: I give --without-tls --without-__thread a try 20:12 < SMP> you can replace stock 2.4 kernel and LVM utils with 2.6/patched 2.4 kernel and LVM2 utils 20:12 < tcr> How's that meant? I thought lvm2 tools are capable of lvm1 format? 20:12 < SMP> the on-disk metadata format, but not the kernel interface 20:12 < tcr> For everyone interested: Enterprise is comming right now 20:13 < SMP> like I said, LVM2 is a frontend to dm, traditional LVM works entirely different on the kernel side 20:14 < SMP> I lost my NPTL tarball :( 20:15 < SMP> rxr: unpack glibc-linuxthreads, use --enable-addons=linuxthreads or somethine like that 20:15 < SMP> rxr: or try --disable-addons=nptl or removing nptl entirely 20:16 < tcr> SMP: Ah, I see 20:16 < tcr> Thank you for your time / now away watching enterprise 20:18 < rxr> SMP: thanks - i joust found out that this without* stuff is not enought 20:18 < mnemoc> SMP there is no glibc-linuxthreads for 2.3.3 yet, only snapshots 20:19 < SMP> oh great, then forget about building glibc-2.3.3 without a gcc-3.3 host compiler 20:20 -!- holyolli_ [~holyolli@port-212-202-27-224.reverse.qsc.de] has quit ("Leaving") 20:20 < mnemoc> i only have gcc-3.3.2 on my 'host' machine and i couldn't build it 20:21 < rxr> mnemoc: in the CVS checkout linuxthreads are included ... 20:21 < mnemoc> i tryed to said that :| 20:22 < SMP> is there a fix to build with _only_ bdb42 yet? 20:22 < rxr> ah - I thought you mean it is also not included at all 20:22 < SMP> db -> db42/ symlink mising ... 20:22 < mnemoc> disable the noinst-mayor.patch and uncomment the last 2 lines below .conf 20:22 < rxr> SMP: jups - remove the disable-major patch from bdb42 and disable the other packages 20:23 < SMP> ah, that patch where I didn't grok why it had to be removed. thanks 20:26 < mnemoc> SMP i understood nothing of what you just said :| 20:26 < SMP> don't worry. it was bad English and not important ;) 20:28 * SMP rebuilding 5-bdb42 ... 20:28 < SMP> 762 builds total, 261 completed fine, 4 with errors. 20:28 < SMP> -1 error already fixed 20:29 < tcr> Heh 20:30 < rxr> mnemoc: ok - this GNU dung starts building ... 20:31 < mnemoc> cool 20:31 < tcr> Hrrmm... just compiling a 2.4er kernel: omg, the make output of 2.6 kernels is so much nicer... 20:35 < mnemoc> bbl 20:35 < SMP> WHAT THE HELL 20:35 < rxr> SMP: ? 20:36 < SMP> there is an unconditional #include <db33/db_185.h> in gnome-libs/libgnome/gnome-metadata.c 20:36 < SMP> what are these people smoking? 20:37 < rxr> ... 20:50 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-035.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:56 < rxr> mnemoc: still building in misc ... 20:57 < rxr> sysvipc 20:59 < rxr> linuxthreads 20:59 < rxr> resolv 21:00 < rxr> inet 21:03 < rxr> sunrpc 21:07 < rxr> gmon 21:07 < rxr> io 21:10 < rxr> ... 21:10 < rxr> string 21:13 < rxr> iconvdata 21:13 < rxr> have I mentioned that I need a G5 or so for PowerPC builds ... 21:23 < rxr> math 21:25 < rxr> stdio-common 21:27 < rxr> mnemoc: might I delegate yet another interesting task to you? 21:28 < rxr> pwd 21:28 < rxr> posix 21:28 < rxr> io 21:28 < rxr> termios 21:28 < rxr> resource 21:28 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 21:28 < rxr> socket 21:28 < A-Tui> hi all 21:28 < rxr> sysvipc 21:28 < rxr> hi A-Tui 21:29 < A-Tui> hola rxr 21:29 < rxr> ... 21:29 < rxr> crypt 21:41 -!- true [~true@aszlig.net] has quit ("bbl") 21:42 -!- true [~true@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:42 -!- aktnot [ident@233.80-202-65.nextgentel.com] has joined #rocklinux 21:42 < owl> scheiss... 21:42 < owl> e 21:46 -!- owl is now known as stonedSantaClaus 21:48 -!- aktnot [ident@233.80-202-65.nextgentel.com] has quit ("Lost terminal") 21:55 < netcrow> santaclaus? 21:55 < netcrow> hm 22:00 -!- aktnot [ident@233.80-202-65.nextgentel.com] has joined #rocklinux 22:01 < stonedSantaClaus> yeah. 22:01 < stonedSantaClaus> <-- feels totally "verpeilt" because of being ill 22:06 < daja77> owl? 22:06 < stonedSantaClaus> daja77: ? 22:06 < daja77> just wondering 22:07 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-27-224.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:07 < stonedSantaClaus> *g* i'm having schnupfen like hell, having fever (at least i think so because of having schuettelfrost) and husten and so. 22:07 < holyolli> re 22:07 < stonedSantaClaus> hi holyolli 22:07 < holyolli> hi stonedSantaClaus *g* 22:08 < stonedSantaClaus> .oO(note to self: don't press enter, if you haven't typed in something in the console *gnarf*) 22:08 < stonedSantaClaus> why laughing holyolli ? 22:08 < holyolli> stonedSantaClaus: just for the funny nick 22:09 < stonedSantaClaus> *hrhr* 22:09 * stonedSantaClaus "laesst gleich den knueppel aus den sack" 22:10 < holyolli> urks. 22:10 < daja77> that's another story 22:10 < stonedSantaClaus> hoeh? 22:14 < rxr> hi daja77 22:14 < daja77> hi rxr 22:14 < holyolli> huhu daja77, rxr 22:15 < daja77> any good news for me? 22:15 < rxr> daja77: good news? like a -rc4 tag ? 22:15 < daja77> sth like that 22:15 < rxr> yep on the way 22:16 < daja77> cool 22:17 * daja77 already downloaded gnome24 stuff this night 22:19 * stonedSantaClaus infects #rocklinux 's dev members with the fscking virus to make them less active than they 're currently are *hrhr* 22:20 < stonedSantaClaus> true: want one, too? 22:20 < Aard> daja77: you pervert.. 22:20 < stonedSantaClaus> hi Aard 22:21 < true> stonedSantaClaus: aehm noe thx :p 22:21 < stonedSantaClaus> .oO(the hoppelndes erdferkel awakes) 22:21 < stonedSantaClaus> true: hehe. but - attention, guess you will be ill on 24th. 22:22 < daja77> Aard: it is part of the distribution, haven't said a word about using it 22:22 < true> stonedSantaClaus: hm... i don't think so :p cause i think my immune system is not soooo bad :p 22:23 < stonedSantaClaus> true: who has schnupfen all over the year? :p 22:23 < true> stonedSantaClaus: you :p 22:23 < stonedSantaClaus> true: nah :p 22:24 < true> stonedSantaClaus: what :) ? 22:24 < stonedSantaClaus> nothing 22:26 < stonedSantaClaus> true: gesundheit... .oO(who said something abo0ut a stabiles immunsystem?) 22:26 < esden> hi all 22:26 < true> stonedSantaClaus: aehm *cough* did i? 22:26 < stonedSantaClaus> hi esdy! :p 22:26 < stonedSantaClaus> true: sure 22:27 < true> stonedSantaClaus: hm ok not stabile but betten than yours :p 22:27 < mnemoc> re all 22:27 < esden> hi owl ;) 22:27 < daja77> wb mnemoc 22:27 < stonedSantaClaus> hi mnemoc 22:27 < esden> hi mnemoc 22:27 < daja77> hi esden 22:28 < esden> hi daja77 ! 22:28 < daja77> :) 22:28 < mnemoc> :) 22:31 < stonedSantaClaus> someone knows a good, exclusive name for an budgie? 22:32 < true> stonedSantaClaus: "bubi" *scnr* 22:32 < stonedSantaClaus> true: *kick* 22:32 < true> har 22:33 < esden> "pupsi" 22:33 < esden> ;) 22:33 < mnemoc> wossie 22:33 < mnemoc> nice name :) 22:33 < stonedSantaClaus> *rofl* 22:33 < true> "bird" :p 22:33 < stonedSantaClaus> nah 22:34 < esden> "boobsi" is also a nice name 22:35 < stonedSantaClaus> waaah. no :p 22:35 < daja77> or owly 22:35 < esden> or "weedy" 22:35 < mnemoc> esden: hi, can you mail me your diff of dietlibc update? 22:35 < stonedSantaClaus> weedy! that's it *lol* 22:35 < mnemoc> esden: how are you lostboy? 22:35 < esden> mnemoc: havn't I sent it to you before? 22:35 < esden> stonedSantaClaus: sure ;) 22:35 < mnemoc> esden: i think so, but don't know where i have it :( 22:35 < rxr> hi esden 22:36 < rxr> esden: will you be at CCC ? 22:36 < esden> rxr: nope 22:36 < netcrow> hi esden 22:36 < stonedSantaClaus> O_o 22:36 < esden> rxr: I need to chill 22:36 < esden> I really need it >_< 22:36 < daja77> freeze esden freeze 22:38 < esden> brrr 22:38 * mnemoc is melting :\ 22:39 < stonedSantaClaus> why this? 22:39 < esden> hmm mnemoc get's wet in my presence ... nice to know ;) 22:39 < mnemoc> mmmm 22:39 < mnemoc> not in THAT sense 22:39 < netcrow> in germany there isn`t a santa claus? he`s called nikolaus ? ;-) 22:48 < daja77> nope, nikolaus != santa claUS 22:48 < daja77> damn capslock 22:49 < esden> daja77: remove it, it would help ;) 22:50 < daja77> hehe 22:50 < stonedSantaClaus> aeh? thought it's the same? 22:50 < daja77> no 22:50 < daja77> santa claus = weihnachtsmann 22:50 < netcrow> christkindl ;-) 22:50 < daja77> guy who appears on xmas 22:50 < stonedSantaClaus> weihnachtsmann = nikolaus? 22:50 < stonedSantaClaus> O_o 22:50 < daja77> nikolaus comes on dec 6th 22:51 < netcrow> he comes? 22:51 -!- aktnot [ident@233.80-202-65.nextgentel.com] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:51 < mnemoc> sant niKoLAUS 22:51 < daja77> he is sort of a helper to santa 22:51 < mnemoc> saint* 22:51 -!- aktnot [ident@233.80-202-65.nextgentel.com] has joined #rocklinux 22:52 < daja77> mnemoc: yep 22:52 < esden> hmm ... compiling such a big kernel takes ages ... *sigh* 22:52 < mnemoc> nikolaus a helper of santa? what a chaotic view you ppl (german) have :| 22:52 -!- aktnot [ident@233.80-202-65.nextgentel.com] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:52 < tcr> mnemoc, No, we got it right 22:53 < mnemoc> esden: you have time to mail me the diff ;) 22:53 < esden> thank god I am not german ;) 22:53 < esden> *GG* 22:53 < daja77> well /me raised in a non christian environment 22:53 < stonedSantaClaus> thank $whateverwhoever that i'm a "mix" 22:53 < tcr> but sant nikolaus ain't a helpe of the Weihnachtsmann, that's nonsense 22:53 < mnemoc> esden: you can't be wrong, you are from the pope's country :) 22:53 < daja77> maybe helper is the wrong word 22:56 < tcr> Santa Claus or Sant Nikolaus was a cathelic bishop who helped poor people and which he was pronounced holy for 22:56 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F61D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:56 < mnemoc> a bishop with a 'nice' miracle when we was in jail 22:56 < daja77> yes the tradition of dec 6th is based on hom 22:57 < daja77> him 22:57 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 22:57 < daja77> hi blindy 22:57 < mnemoc> hi blindcoder 22:57 < stonedSantaClaus> hi blindy 22:57 * daja77 thinking of starting a build tonight? 22:57 < mnemoc> what's dec 6th? 22:58 < tcr> The typical Santa Clause (the old fat man with a white bart etc) is a kind of idol created by the americans I guess and we copied it (not sure about that) 22:58 < daja77> kids get sweeties into their polished shoes 22:58 < blindcoder> something was _seriously_ screwed here... 22:58 < esden> only 6 minutes for nwn download to finish 22:58 < blindcoder> Dec 19 19:17:53 scavenger sendmail[368]: rejecting connections on daemon MTA: load average: 468 22:58 < mnemoc> that was created by CocaCola :) 22:59 < blindcoder> 902... 22:59 < esden> blindcoder: wooohooo you are the loadmaster ;) 22:59 < stonedSantaClaus> wtf are you doing? 22:59 < tcr> mnemoc, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas 22:59 < blindcoder> 1023... 22:59 < daja77> mnemoc: no only the red coat afaik 23:00 < blindcoder> 1024 being the biggest value 23:00 < mnemoc> wikipedia needs pictures :( 23:00 < blindcoder> apart from that nothing usable in messages 23:01 < mnemoc> btw, why the f* Switzerland=.ch??? 23:01 < tcr> hm? 23:01 < mnemoc> CHile is more .ch than Switzerland 23:01 < holyolli> *g* 23:01 < daja77> now that you mention it, i live in a former protestant area 23:01 < blindcoder> I knew that once... 23:02 < daja77> Confederation Helvetica 23:02 < esden> ahh christkind was created by the protestants ... now everything gets clear to me ;) 23:02 < stonedSantaClaus> hoeh??? esden ? 23:02 < mnemoc> daja77: thanks 23:02 < esden> I mean that they renamed nikolaus to christkind ... 23:03 < tcr> "Santa's image was further modernized by the Coca-Cola company, who at the turn of the 20th Century featured the character in a variety of advertising campaigns. These campaigns helped establish a "uniform" Santa character, whereas prior to this his appearance and costume had varied from artist to artist." 23:03 < mnemoc> i said CocaCola :) 23:03 < tcr> you were right mnemoc 23:03 * blindcoder gone 23:04 < daja77> cu blindcoder 23:04 < mnemoc> good... trip? blindcoder 23:04 < esden> cu blindcoder 23:05 < esden> weee the nwn tar file for linux is here!!! 23:05 * -> esden happy 23:05 < stonedSantaClaus> hehe. 23:05 < holyolli> esden: the network-server or the client? 23:05 < stonedSantaClaus> <- leaves now. 23:05 < stonedSantaClaus> gn8 23:05 < daja77> cu owl 23:05 < mnemoc> cu owl 23:05 < holyolli> n8 owl 23:06 < esden> n8 owl 23:06 < esden> holyolli: the runtime files ... I have downloaded the client long time ago ... it is not so big 23:06 < netcrow> what`s nwn? 23:07 < holyolli> cool 23:07 < esden> netcrow: Neverwinter Nights 23:08 < netcrow> ah ;) 23:14 -!- sekhmet [~pez@adsl-68-78-232-235.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:21 * -> esden has to reboot due to a new kernel 23:21 < esden> cu all 23:23 -!- aktnot [ident@233.80-202-65.nextgentel.com] has joined #rocklinux 23:24 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAE5E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 23:31 -!- aktnot [ident@233.80-202-65.nextgentel.com] has quit ("leaving") 23:39 < rxr> esden: how are you doing? 23:45 -!- aktnot [ident@233.80-202-65.nextgentel.com] has joined #rocklinux --- Log closed Sat Dec 20 00:00:41 2003