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--- Log opened Sat Dec 27 00:00:07 2003 00:07 * daja77 off to bed, cu all 00:11 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-141.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:17 < nookie> daja77: Already off? 00:26 < rxr> re 00:27 < mnemoc> hi rxr, nookie 00:31 < nookie> Hi mnemoc 00:32 < mnemoc> brb :) 00:32 < nookie> mnemoc: would you please be as kind to pack the actual trunk to an archive and send it / or upload it somewhere? 00:32 < mnemoc> email addr? 00:33 < nookie> n00kie@dltmail.de 00:33 < nookie> thank you 00:33 < mnemoc> welcome 00:34 < mnemoc> ;= 00:35 < mnemoc> with or without .svn? 00:36 < nookie> with 00:39 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-141.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 00:39 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-141.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:43 < mnemoc> 2.3M sent 00:43 < mnemoc> rev2067 00:43 < nookie> thank you, that's nice 00:44 < mnemoc> i need to go for food.. bbl 00:44 < nookie> enjoy 01:06 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-141.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 01:07 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-141.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:36 < LuckyLuke> whats the difference between 2.0.0-rc2 and 2.0.0-camp ? 01:41 -!- ringo [~mooooh@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has quit (Client Quit) 01:43 < tcr> LuckyLuke, camp is way older 01:45 < mnemoc> re 01:46 < LuckyLuke> ok 01:47 < mnemoc> iirc camp was a rc of rc2 :) 01:48 < mnemoc> rc2-pre sounds better 01:49 < nookie> mnemoc: thank you, it was very nice from you to send me the tarball 01:50 < mnemoc> :) 01:50 < mnemoc> i can mail it again if you want ;) 01:57 < rxr> re 01:57 < tcr> hey rxr, still awake? 01:58 < tcr> me's just going to bed right away 01:59 < rxr> ok - off into bed now - cu 02:00 < nookie> sleep well rxr, tcr 02:16 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA974F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:17 < mnemoc> nookie: 2068 fixes 2067... do u need the diff or can update from there? 02:23 < nookie> diff would be finer 02:27 < mnemoc> sent 02:27 < mnemoc> brb 02:27 < nookie> fine 02:28 < nookie> thank you mate 02:44 -!- nookie [~nookie@M507P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Lost terminal") 03:39 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.77.0.182] has joined #rocklinux 03:41 < batok> I am downloading drock 2 rc3, does anybody know what kernel ( version ) is included ? 03:43 < mnemoc> linux 2.4.22 03:43 < batok> tks 03:43 < batok> is it possible to make it run with 2.6? 03:44 < mnemoc> i guess it is 03:46 < mnemoc> desktop target doesn't include any reference to linux26, then i should be built too 03:49 < batok> who 03:49 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.77.0.182] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.36 [Mozilla rv:1.5/0]") 03:54 < mnemoc> gn8 * 04:04 -!- MadTux [~mike@196.40.10.191] has joined #rocklinux 04:04 < MadTux> moin all. 04:24 -!- MadTux [~mike@196.40.10.191] has quit ("Leaving") 04:31 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-126.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:56 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-141.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05:37 -!- MadTux [~mike@196.40.10.191] has joined #rocklinux 06:36 < cytrinox`> moin 06:36 -!- Ewreen [~BubbleX@plms16763-159.pool.007mundo.com] has joined #rocklinux 06:37 < MadTux> hi cytrinox` 06:41 -!- Ewreen [~BubbleX@plms16763-159.pool.007mundo.com] has quit ("Open source, Open mind") 06:43 -!- Ewreen [~Ewreen@plms16763-159.pool.007mundo.com] has joined #rocklinux 07:06 -!- MadTux [~mike@196.40.10.191] has quit ("Leaving") 07:15 -!- Ewreen [~Ewreen@plms16763-159.pool.007mundo.com] has left #rocklinux ("Free your mind") 07:31 < daja77> moin 07:33 < cytrinox`> morgen daja77 07:36 < daja77> moin cytrinox` 08:13 -!- starlord [~starlord@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #rocklinux 08:40 < rxr> re 08:41 < rxr> moin 08:55 < daja77> hi rxr 09:07 < Aard> moin 09:10 < asshole|Universe> moin 09:11 < asshole|Universe> .oO(fsck, my touchpad is not working very well with this 2.6.0-kernel ) 09:13 < Aard> asshole|Universe: mine works 09:14 < asshole|Universe> Aard: hrmpf. mine is quite "ungenau" and when i "click", then i have to use those fscking "tasten" and so... 09:14 < asshole|Universe> --> not very good *grmbls* 09:14 < Aard> asshole|Universe: synaptics? 09:15 < daja77> hi Aard still in C atm, packing 09:15 < Aard> daja77: do you have a dect phone? 09:15 < daja77> i do have 09:15 < Aard> k. call me :) 2442 09:16 < asshole|Universe> Aard: dunno... why? 09:16 < Aard> asshole|Universe: if you have one you should enable synaptics support in the kernel.and install the synaptics driver for X 09:17 < asshole|Universe> hrm. how to find it out? 09:17 < daja77> 2120 is mine, hopefully :) 09:17 < Aard> read the technical documentation of your notebook :) 09:17 < starlord> aard:what driver for X? i have synaptics and i just enabled support in kernel and works fine 09:18 < asshole|Universe> Aard: there is nothing about the vendor of the touchpad... at least last time i saw in it 09:18 < Aard> starlord: to make scrolling, 2nd/3rd-button-click, ... working. all this can be done by moving/tapping on the touchpad 09:18 < Aard> asshole|Universe: buy another notebook ;) 09:18 < asshole|Universe> Aard: naaaah. :p 09:19 < asshole|Universe> btw, someone knows which HDs and/or CDburners and/or DVD/CD-burners are good and not toooooooo expansive? 09:20 < starlord> asssss:i like LG's,never had problems with them 09:21 < asshole|Universe> hmm. k. 09:21 < Aard> starlord: they do not support linux. remember the flush problem with lg-readers 09:22 < starlord> true,havent much used it under linux,only used my laptop burner under linux which isnt lg 09:23 < Aard> starlord: they work well under linux, but you nay not receive support for braindamaged designissues 09:24 < asshole|Universe> braindamaged designissues like? 09:24 < Aard> asshole|Universe: flush. 09:25 < Aard> lg _readers_ interpretet the atapi flush command (for readers only, to flush caches) as 'erase the firmware' 09:25 < asshole|Universe> oops 09:25 < Aard> aehm, writers only. 09:25 < Aard> only slept 4 hours :) 09:26 < starlord> btw. do you know burner maker that has its "own" support for it's devices under linux? i never havent checked their support and i'm just curious.... 09:27 < asshole|Universe> hehe. where at the 20c3 are you? 09:27 < Aard> asshole|Universe: info desk. the only place wher I could get network :) 09:28 < asshole|Universe> *lol* 09:28 < Aard> starlord: no, but lg is imo the only company explecitly saying 'we do not support linux' 09:31 < Aard> daja77: btw, rocklinux table in hackcenter is near metarheinmain, where I am 09:33 < asshole|Universe> <- off again. 09:33 < asshole|Universe> bye 09:33 < Aard> by euleken 09:37 < daja77> Aard: anyone there? 09:38 < Aard> daja77: jup. I hadn' seen it if fake hadn't called me 09:46 < Aard> bbl 10:10 * daja77 off: on the road 11:34 -!- dsoul_ [darksoul@pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl] has joined #rocklinux 11:42 -!- dsoul [darksoul@pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11:46 -!- dsoul_ is now known as dsoul 11:47 -!- seppo [1001@dialin-145-254-172-128.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:52 -!- seppo [1001@dialin-145-254-172-128.arcor-ip.net] has left #rocklinux ("Client exiting") 12:17 < rxr> re 13:15 -!- huebi_ [~huebi@sophie.huebner.it] has left #rocklinux () 13:23 -!- LuckyLuke [~LuckyLuke@dsl-213-023-130-036.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13:57 -!- LuckyLuke [~LuckyLuke@dsl-082-082-085-112.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:03 < fake> hi 14:28 -!- cytrinox` [~dj-nail@p213.54.195.137.tisdip.tiscali.de] has left #rocklinux ("Client exiting") 14:32 -!- scoopex [~marc@td9091992.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:33 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@82.130.43.248] has joined #rocklinux 14:42 -!- Nebukadneza` is now known as Nebukadneza 15:15 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802DEB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:18 < mnemoc> moin 15:24 < blindcoder> moin moin 15:25 < mnemoc> how r u blinker? 15:26 < mnemoc> do u have pics of your new toy? 15:26 < blindcoder> not yet 15:26 < blindcoder> just got my hands on a cam 15:28 < mnemoc> are u already on the congress? 15:28 < blindcoder> sure 15:32 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-126.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 15:33 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p5080271D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:35 < blindcoder> https://scavenger.homeip.net/bilder/ 15:35 < blindcoder> then click on 20C3 15:42 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-126.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:43 < mnemoc> cool.. pics 15:53 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@82.130.43.248] has joined #rocklinux 15:54 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@82.130.43.248] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15:54 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 15:57 < mnemoc> blindcoder: the first one is your room? 16:06 < blindcoder> no, snyke's 16:11 < snyke> lol 16:11 < snyke> :) 16:12 < snyke> why do you mirror my /home :) 16:12 < blindcoder> snyke: because those images were still left on the cam :P 16:12 < snyke> ah, yes :) 16:12 < snyke> right 16:12 < snyke> I thought you have them from https://snyke.acamar.org/ 16:14 < mnemoc> :) 16:20 < mnemoc> https://snyke.acamar.org/ut2004_screen001.jpg <-- what game is that? 16:20 < starlord> unreal tournament 16:20 < mnemoc> ehm... i need to play more :\ 16:21 < starlord> :) 16:21 < starlord> its good game,too bad it prolly wont work on my laptop 16:21 < snyke> it's just a preview 16:21 < snyke> mnemoc: https://happypenguin.org/ :) 16:22 * blindcoder gone 16:26 < starlord> url for 20C3 congress website? 16:27 < mnemoc> https://www.ccc.de/congress/2003 16:29 * netrunner got net 16:30 < netrunner> blindcoder: do you have the download/ on a congress-mirror? 16:31 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD9502DD8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("ze ūda brķ-tenkoR") 16:31 < blindcoder> netrunner: nope 16:32 < netrunner> blindcoder: now would be the right time to do so :) 16:33 < blindcoder> netrunner: then start :) 16:34 < mnemoc> why all these german things are on german :( 16:35 < blindcoder> I can't get quite used to taht either :D 16:38 < mnemoc> :) 16:38 -!- hannes [~hannes@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:42 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAACD6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:44 < tcr> moin all 16:45 < mnemoc> moin tcr 16:47 < blindcoder> moin tcr 16:49 < mnemoc> "SKIRT Linux - tool to provide from (Linux) distributions " <-- damn google 16:49 < blindcoder> *lol* 16:51 < netrunner> blindcoder: do you have the sources here so I can put them on our ftp? 16:53 -!- LuckyLuke [~LuckyLuke@dsl-082-082-085-112.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Lost terminal") 16:53 < blindcoder> netrunner: nope 17:03 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@82.130.43.248] has joined #rocklinux 17:03 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@82.130.43.248] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 17:03 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 17:06 < netrunner> blindcoder: ok, then I need to download them :/ 17:06 < netrunner> blindcoder: do you want my finished build as iso or the pkg dir 17:08 < netrunner> hm, that's too slow. doesn't anybody there have the sources? 17:08 < blindcoder> netrunner: the build dir 17:09 -!- elon [~moep2k@rudolf01.congress.ccc.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:01 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@82.130.43.248] has joined #rocklinux 18:01 -!- elon [~moep2k@rudolf01.congress.ccc.de] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:01 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@82.130.43.248] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:01 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 18:06 < fake> netrunner: go ahead 18:07 < netrunner> fake: 82.130.43.156/incoming-pub 18:10 < fake> netrunner: mach dir ein tar von meinem download/ dir 18:11 < netrunner> fake: thx 18:14 -!- elon [~moep2k@rudolf01.congress.ccc.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:14 < netrunner> blindcoder: ftp://82.130.47.199/rock-linux/build 18:15 < netrunner> blindcoder: only take the generic one, the other one is not finished. 18:17 < fake> netrunner: 1.8 G 18:18 < netrunner> fake: already there? 18:19 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@82.130.43.248] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18:21 < fake> netrunner: running... 18:23 < fake> hm, fast... 18:24 < netrunner> fake: it's right of your feet :) 18:24 < netrunner> oh, left 18:26 < fake> aah 18:26 < fake> the strange machine with the lwl connector 18:26 < fake> we were wondering whose it is. 18:26 < fake> netrunner: have fun with my download directory ;) 18:26 * fake havin' a cigarette 18:32 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@82.130.43.248] has joined #rocklinux 18:46 < starlord> hmm,just curious how long it takes to build those target cds like netrunner(?) has in its ftp 18:48 < mnemoc> a generic takes almost a week :) 18:48 < mnemoc> on my box at least 18:48 < netrunner> starlord: generic takes me about 2,5 days. 18:49 < starlord> netrunner what machine you got? 18:49 < netrunner> with tempfs. local cluster is even a bit faster. 18:49 < netrunner> starlord: dual athlon mp 2,4GHz 18:50 < starlord> hih,wondering how many pc's should i have to minimize it to few hours :) 18:54 < starlord> hmm,in theory i might get it to few hours if i get access to all pc in school(around 1.2k) 18:54 < mnemoc> too many, the dependencies wont let you multitask enought 18:55 < starlord> :) 18:55 * netrunner building ftp://82.130.47.199/ftplist.htm 18:59 < starlord> netrunner:who's machine's are those? would be nice to know who's ftp server i'm scanning :) 19:03 -!- elon [~moep2k@rudolf01.congress.ccc.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19:05 < netrunner> starlord: congress :) 19:06 < mnemoc> 20C3 Network Abuse Contact: +49 30 72622-42. 19:07 < netrunner> +49 30 72622-3215 is my number :) congress dect network 19:08 < netrunner> +49 30 72622-44-3215 19:08 * netrunner -> lunch 19:09 < blindcoder> netrunner: STOP 19:10 < netrunner> blindcoder: what? 19:10 < blindcoder> netrunner: I'm also hungry 19:10 < mnemoc> netrunner: are you a bastard engel from hell? 19:10 < netrunner> blindcoder: oh, sorry. I am invited at my hosts' 19:10 < blindcoder> :P 19:10 < netrunner> mnemoc: nope 19:12 < mnemoc> non-engel ppl diserves phone number?? 19:12 < netrunner> mnemoc: everybody does. 19:12 < mnemoc> wow 19:15 < mnemoc> you don't work on 26.12 and everybody has phone number... i need to move :( 20:07 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9502DD8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:07 < daja77> re 20:07 < mnemoc> hi daja77 20:07 < daja77> hi mnemoc 20:09 -!- scoopex [~marc@td9091992.adsl.terralink.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:10 < daja77> anybody here who has a working mozilla on rc2? 20:28 < blindcoder> just on rc4 20:36 < daja77> have rc4 running ;-) 20:47 < mnemoc> will we add {thunder,fire}bird? 21:09 -!- starlord [~starlord@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ("sleepy") 21:09 < mnemoc> rxr: ping 21:12 < mnemoc> is rene at 20c3 now? 21:14 < mnemoc> 2072 will broke all cross builds.. why did he commit it?? 22:00 < netrunner> re 22:02 < mnemoc> hi netrunner 22:03 -!- LocalHero [~alex@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux 22:03 < LocalHero> Hi all 22:04 < mnemoc> wb LocalHero 22:06 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@82.130.43.248] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:06 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@82.130.43.248] has joined #rocklinux 22:07 < netrunner> Error logs from athlon_mp_desktop-2.0.0-rc4-x86-athlon-mp-32-desktop-expert: 844 builds total, 587 completed fine, 11 with errors. 22:10 < mnemoc> what is failing? 22:10 < netrunner> [5] 0 rene/ffmpeg [5] 2 rene/xemacs-packages 22:10 < netrunner> [5] 0 rene/auctex [5] 17 misc/directfb 22:10 < netrunner> [5] 16 gnome24/gok [5] 16 gnome24/galeon 22:10 < netrunner> [5] 0 gnome24/straw [5] 0 gnome24/pkgview 22:10 < netrunner> [5] 16 gnome24/libxklavier [5] 15 gnome24/gswitchit 22:10 < netrunner> [5] 0 rene/koffice 22:11 < netrunner> (straw and xemacs-packages not in download/) 22:12 < mnemoc> sabanah is back, so we can download straw :) 22:12 < netrunner> mnemoc: downloading doesn't work :( at least not yesterday. 22:13 < netrunner> 404 page not found. 22:15 < mnemoc> d'oh 22:18 < mnemoc> what if we move to an snapshot for now? 22:20 < mnemoc> netrunner: try this https://www.helsinki.fi/~pakaste/store/dl/straw-0.21.2.tar.gz 22:21 < mnemoc> if it works we can move it to the mirrors 22:22 < mnemoc> how was the rock's presentation? 22:23 < daja77> we had technical problems ... 22:23 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD9502DC9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:23 < mnemoc> what kind of 'technical problems'? 22:24 < daja77> the beamer didn't work with clifford's laptops and the audio install was a mess (lots of echoes) 22:25 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@82.130.43.248] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:25 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@82.130.43.248] has joined #rocklinux 22:26 -!- LocalHero [~alex@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has left #rocklinux () 22:26 < mnemoc> ouch :( 22:26 < daja77> he gave his best anyway ;-) 22:26 < blindcoder> yeah, that disconnect really did hurt 22:27 < mnemoc> :) 22:27 < mnemoc> BrainF*ck was the same? 22:27 < daja77> it is tomorrow 22:29 < blindcoder> oh, you're badmouthing clifford :) 22:29 < netrunner> :( /me missed rock presentation, to old schedule 22:29 < daja77> blindcoder: huh? 22:30 < blindcoder> daja77: nothing :) 22:30 < daja77> hehe 22:33 < netrunner> blindcoder: I have a new ip 82.130.44.244 22:33 < blindcoder> netrunner: why that? 22:34 < daja77> the other one was old and used *ggg* 22:35 < blindcoder> I see, I see 22:39 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9502DD8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:45 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@82.130.43.248] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:46 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@82.130.43.248] has joined #rocklinux 22:57 -!- LocalHero [~alex@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux 23:05 < LocalHero> why does perl run so slow on rocklinux? Is it because its a never version. My old system had perl 5.0x or something and when running perl script it just ran. Now it takes 5 seconds before perl does anything :( 23:06 < LocalHero> Is there any way to accelerate that? 23:12 * netrunner has no problem running perl ... 23:12 < netrunner> LocalHero: maybe your build had optimization problems with gcc and perl 23:18 < LocalHero> netrunner, hmm, maybe, Some people at #perl says that it might not be a problem at al. Just that the scripts i run "spamassassin" is slow :( 23:20 < blindcoder> spamassassin is fskcing slow 23:21 < blindcoder> use spamd and spamc for performance 23:21 < LocalHero> blindcoder, oki, hmm, but i have configured it for evolution and i need the -e -P options (i think). 23:30 < LocalHero> blindcoder, hmm, it hardly give me any performance boost when running spamc :( 23:33 < blindcoder> it usually ran around 50 times faster here 23:33 < LocalHero> blindcoder, hmm, oki, better check :).. Where are all those spams when you need them :) 23:33 < blindcoder> if your MTA is down and you getseveral 100 mails and have to run htem through spamassassin your load _will_ skyrocket 23:36 < LocalHero> blindcoder, oki, how do you run spamd and spamc? I run spamd -d. and uses evolution to filter through program spamc -c when downloading from pop server 23:39 < blindcoder> hmm... I use it through procmail... haven't ever used evolution or other graphical MUA/MTA combos 23:40 < LocalHero> blindcoder, hmm, it seams that spamd starts a new process for each spamc that connects to it :( 23:41 < blindcoder> that might very well be... accept() does something like that IIRC 23:41 < LocalHero> blindcoder, but then its almost the same as running spamassassin. Thats why it takes so long time :( 23:45 < blindcoder> no, spand only spawns processes, but spamassassin has to re-read all scan-rules with every new instance 23:46 < LocalHero> blindcoder, oki, then i get some advantages. Maybe i should use procmail insted? 23:47 -!- LocalHero [~alex@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has left #rocklinux () 23:47 -!- LocalHero [~alex@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux 23:47 < blindcoder> I don't know if evolution can handle mbox files 23:47 < LocalHero> Ahh, well thats enough for tonight.. n8 23:47 < LocalHero> blindcoder, yupp it can :) 23:47 < LocalHero> cya blindcoder 23:47 < blindcoder> ok 23:47 < blindcoder> baba 23:48 -!- LocalHero [~alex@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.2.4") --- Log closed Sun Dec 28 00:00:31 2003