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--- Log opened Wed Jan 21 00:00:06 2004 00:00 < rxr> drz: I'm moving away from x86 and have mostly PowerPC and SPARC binaries lying arround ... 00:00 < rxr> daja77: jsaw_: mnemoc: anyone x86 floppies handy ? ;-= 00:00 < rxr> s/=/)/ even ... 00:00 * daja77 should have some 00:01 < jsaw_> sorry, no 00:01 < daja77> rc5 bootdisk, ok? 00:01 < drz> i don't know 00:01 < drz> i'll try anythink that's available 00:01 < drz> 2.0.0-rc5? 00:01 < daja77> yes 00:01 < drz> well that's pretty recent right? 00:02 < daja77> not released rc5 of course 00:02 < daja77> yes, from last week 00:02 < drz> well where can i get them? 00:02 < daja77> mom 00:04 < jsaw_> rxr: I'll rediff the pkginstalled thing when I'm back home (in a few hours) --- me now trying to get some numerical simulations going 00:05 < rxr> jsaw_: sure 00:05 < rxr> jsaw_: I'll just merge this one - which function name to use? 00:05 < rxr> pkg_installed? 00:06 < rxr> is www.rocklinux.net down? 00:06 < jsaw_> I guess to keep it consistent "pkginstalled" is fine 00:06 < daja77> no 00:06 < rxr> does not work for me ... 00:07 < rxr> ip is: 213.225.54.156 ? 00:07 < jsaw_> yes 00:07 < jsaw_> fine here also 00:07 < rxr> damn 00:07 < daja77> yep 00:08 < rxr> my last hop is: 00:08 < rxr> pos6-0.mpr2.vie3.at.above.net (209.249.203.30) 00:09 < rxr> hm - how should I apply patches when I can not access Submaster 00:09 < rxr> maybe it is the sign to get sleep ... 00:09 < jsaw_> yeah, enough patches today for the rest of us to digest... :) 00:10 < drz> daja77: ? 00:10 < rxr> hehe: 00:10 < daja77> drz: https://lospalmos.homelinux.net/rock-boot 00:10 < rxr> /.:a press release from SCO that details a new lawsuit against Novell for "Slander of Title". It looks like SCO has finally ditched their failing product line in favor of 24/7 litigation and PR work." 00:10 < daja77> have I told you that Novelll is the main sponsor of clt? 00:10 < drz> daja77: thanks 00:11 < rxr> drz: yes 00:11 < drz> clt? 00:11 < rxr> daja77 even .. 00:11 < daja77> k. :) 00:11 < rxr> damn non-inteligent tab completion ... 00:11 < drz> huh? 00:11 < drz> whats clt? 00:11 < daja77> rxr: that easy you just have to press tab again 00:12 < daja77> drz: chemnitzer linuxtag https://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag 00:12 < rxr> daja77: yes - but when I notice I already hit enter ... 00:12 < drz> ah cool 00:12 < daja77> :) 00:12 < rxr> hm - www.rocklinux.{net,org} routeable again .. 00:13 < daja77> hmm shutting down bittorrent should help you 00:14 < drz> daja77: do i need all the 6 floppies 00:14 < drz> hmm where am i supposed to put the 4mb initrd? 00:14 < daja77> to be honest, i don't know, haven't dealt with floppies for some time 00:14 < daja77> forget about that 00:15 < drz> oh lol 00:15 < rxr> drz: you need al 00:15 < rxr> drz: you only need the floppy images - no other single files 00:15 < drz> rxr: except the initrd? 00:16 < daja77> forget about initrd 00:16 < jsaw_> rxr: stop watching tv 00:16 < rxr> all is included in the floppy*.img files 00:16 < drz> ok 00:16 < rxr> jsaw_: ? 00:16 < jsaw_> 00:17 < rxr> drz: you need al 00:16 < daja77> don't get the joke 00:16 < jsaw_> bundy 00:17 < daja77> waah, no, it is mean to remind me of that 00:17 < jsaw_> hehe 00:17 < drz> now i'm confused?!? 00:18 < daja77> ./ignore jsaw_ 00:18 < drz> yeah ok... 00:18 < jsaw_> drz: me just bubbling, follow daja77's wise words and ignore me (sorry) 00:18 < drz> ok i'll do that... 00:19 < jsaw_> daja77: btw., me condoles myself 00:19 < drz> how long should i expect a base system to compile (without X), on an Athlon 2200+... a few hours (6-8)? 00:20 < daja77> jsaw_: huh? 00:21 < rxr> drz: I hope you do not try to build ROCK from your boot floppies - that will not work 00:22 < drz> rxr: huh... lol... i think! 00:22 < rxr> the floppies can not - and so do not - include all the stuff like binutils gcc and co .. 00:22 < drz> well the system does have a harddrive... 00:22 < daja77> just can't boot from cd? 00:22 < drz> daja77: that's not an option 00:23 < rxr> well he could install some bits via network - too bad we do not have open network install servers .... :-((( 00:24 < daja77> guess that would be no option for your traffic? 00:25 < drz> well couldn't hosting be arranged via ibiblio.org of sourceforge? 00:27 < daja77> well we have server and mirrors for src ... 00:30 < daja77> drz: can you tell me when you finished downloads? 00:30 < drz> i'm downloading the last floppy as we speak 00:31 < daja77> k. 00:31 < daja77> just want to restart bittorrent afterwards to get some more 20c3 videos 00:31 < drz> hehe k 00:31 < daja77> :) 00:36 < esdentem> cu all 00:36 -!- esdentem [~esdentem@131.159.22.78] has quit ("Leaving") 00:37 < rxr> so - I think I have SPAMed people enought for this night ... 00:37 < drz> daja77: done 00:37 < drz> thanks! 00:38 < daja77> np 00:38 < rxr> oops - all time high in svn commit count for yesterday ;-): 00:38 < rxr> https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/ 00:38 < daja77> cool 00:39 < rxr> 45 commits ;-) 00:39 < daja77> hail to rxr 00:40 < rxr> now only KDE needs the version bump and some ALSA fixes and we'll have -rc5 ... 00:40 < jsaw_> rxr: oh and don't forget rockplug (reminder II :) 00:41 < rxr> jsaw_: yeah yeah 00:41 < jsaw_> rxr: hehe 00:42 * daja77 hugs rxr 00:42 * daja77 testing the iimage script 00:43 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-078-146.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:43 -!- drz [~chatzilla@cp232498-a.gelen1.lb.home.nl] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.35 [Mozilla rv:1.5/20031007]") 00:43 < rxr> jsaw_: now pkginstalled is in ... 00:44 < rxr> wahhh! Hot did it got that late ... :-( 00:44 < daja77> just by passing 00:44 < jsaw_> rxr: good, will adapt my pkgs soon... 00:44 < rxr> are you sure it does work the way you typed it? 00:45 < rxr> doing just [ -f ... ] in the function 00:45 < jsaw_> yep, tested with a new package 00:45 < rxr> and then typing pkginstalled && ... in the .conf files? 00:45 < rxr> oh the bash really likes this? 00:46 < daja77> ok n8 00:46 < jsaw_> rxr: pkginstalled xxx && pkginstalled yyy && var_append confopt... worked here 00:47 -!- aktnot_ [ident@233.80-202-65.nextgentel.com] has joined #rocklinux 00:47 -!- aktnot_ [ident@233.80-202-65.nextgentel.com] has quit (Client Quit) 00:49 < rxr> ouhm - only 1072 packages: 00:49 < rxr> $ ls */*/*.desc | wc -l 00:49 < rxr> 1072 00:49 < rxr> I tought we would be near 2000 ... 00:53 < mnemoc> re:( 00:54 < rxr> ok - n8 all 00:54 < mnemoc> n8 rxr 01:06 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-202.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:13 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1CE92.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 01:59 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-014.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:20 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-078-146.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02:35 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-084.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:47 -!- puzzled [~patrick@puzzled.xs4all.nl] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02:58 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-014.arcor-ip.net] has quit (No route to host) 03:00 -!- kandinski_away [~kandinski@62.151.232.73] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:32 -!- netcrow_ [~netcrow@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 04:48 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has joined #rocklinux 04:56 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-084.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:56 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-105.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:57 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.77.40.17] has joined #rocklinux 04:57 < batok> hi 04:59 < batok> I have a question , is anybody out there ? 04:59 < SMP> theoretically yes 05:00 < batok> I have finished to build my first one target, but I need to do something before creating de ISOs 05:01 < SMP> is that a question? ;) 05:01 < batok> The question is .... 05:02 < batok> I have finished to build the bootdisk target and the default ( router ) and want to know if I can group both in a single CD 05:03 < SMP> yes you can - this is recommended 05:04 < batok> ./scripts/Create-ISO myrock1 bootdisk default 05:04 < batok> Do I get on CD iso file from this ? 05:05 < SMP> you get one if everything fits into one 05:05 < batok> oh, I get it... 05:05 < batok> tks, SMP 05:06 < SMP> np 05:06 < SMP> uh - wait 05:07 < batok> is there anything else ? 05:07 < SMP> the router target is bootable from CD on its own - you don't need an extra bootdisk target for it 05:08 < SMP> and it probably won't work well to have two bootable targets on a single CD 05:08 < batok> ./scripts/Create-ISO default 05:08 < batok> is this correct ? 05:09 < batok> oops 05:09 < batok> ./scripts/Create-ISO myfirst1 default 05:09 < SMP> exactly 05:10 < batok> why the router don't need a bootdisk ? 05:10 < SMP> because it runs directly off the CD - you don't install it on a harddisk 05:11 < SMP> (well, it's possible to install it anyway) 05:11 < batok> oh, its like a live cd ? 05:11 < SMP> yes 05:11 < batok> I didn't know , that's cool 05:12 < batok> tks again SMP 05:13 < SMP> have fun 05:13 < batok> are you a package maintainer ? 05:13 < SMP> yes, I'm in charge of the stefanp repository 05:14 < batok> good 05:15 < batok> are you in Europe ? if so it's late... 05:15 < SMP> or early - depends on how you see it ;) 05:15 < batok> sure 05:18 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-202.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:27 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.77.40.17] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.35 [Mozilla rv:1.5/20031115]") 05:40 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-105.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05:42 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-032.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:49 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-202.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05:52 -!- Netsplit niven.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: SMP 05:53 -!- Netsplit over, joins: SMP 06:41 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-083.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 06:43 -!- SMP [~stefanp@vanessa.wronline.net] has quit ("Changing server") 06:43 -!- NUMA [~stefanp@vanessa.wronline.net] has joined #rocklinux 06:44 -!- NUMA is now known as SMP 07:02 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-032.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:05 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-203.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:09 -!- rus_bob [~bob@195.161.26.162] has quit ("leaving") 07:11 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-083.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08:40 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@pD950699F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:52 < netrunner> damn, now I remembered switching on my build server this morning, I just shut him down by misusing the bash history :( 08:57 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@pD95069B1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:33 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-178.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:49 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-203.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:59 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-178.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:01 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-094.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:06 -!- kandinski [~kandinski@62-151-131-227.tp24.ya.com] has joined #rocklinux 10:17 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-103.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:28 < blindcoder> moin 10:37 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-094.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Connection timed out) 10:48 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-134.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:54 -!- fake [~fake@f4k3.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:55 < netrunner> re 10:56 < daja77> moin netrunner 10:58 -!- esdentem [~esdentem@lain.informatik.tu-muenchen.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:58 < esdentem> hi all 10:58 < esdentem> ping blindcoder 10:58 < netrunner> hi esdentem 10:59 < esdentem> hi netrunner 10:59 < esdentem> I will probably be some minutes too late today for rnp 10:59 < netrunner> esdentem: can that lasernot be turned off? it is producing unhealthy amounts of ozone 10:59 < esdentem> but not one hour like last time 10:59 < netrunner> esdentem: that is nothing new :) 10:59 < esdentem> lasernot? 11:01 < netrunner> s/erno/er no/ 11:02 < esdentem> which laser do you mean? 11:02 < netrunner> esdentem: in the apeiron room. 11:02 < esdentem> sure it can be turned off 11:02 * esdentem turning it off 11:02 < esdentem> and now? 11:02 * netrunner stroking esden 11:03 < esdentem> urgh *puke* 11:03 < esdentem> thanks netrunner ... now I have to clean up here 11:03 < netrunner> esdentem: now it wont smell that bad any more when I want to learn in the morning :) 11:03 < esdentem> poor boy 11:04 * esdentem is asking himself if christian will arrive today ... 11:05 < esdentem> and /me forgot his cellphone at home >_< 11:05 < esdentem> *GRRR* 11:05 -!- Baldzius [~user@212.122.72.33] has joined #rocklinux 11:06 < Baldzius> moin :) 11:06 < netrunner> have I mentioned that I bought a gps receiver? *dancing* 11:10 < esdentem> netrunner, you are my hero ;) 11:10 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-103.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11:10 < esdentem> moin Baldzius 11:14 < blindcoder> hi all 11:15 < esdentem> hi blindcoder! 11:15 < esdentem> *hug* ;) 11:23 -!- puzzled [~patrick@puzzled.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 11:24 < blindcoder> should I get up now or not? 11:26 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-078-208.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:31 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802B3C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:31 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p508029C6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:36 < blindcoder> hmm I think I've got this stupid mplayer where I want it 11:41 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-134.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12:02 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-078-208.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12:03 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-114.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:05 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 12:10 < esdentem> blindcoder: ? 12:11 * esdentem note: sometimes writing is no fun ... *sigh* 12:11 < blindcoder> esdentem: mplayer links statically now 12:12 < blindcoder> which means the livesystem for lvp is now almost as functional as before and only 39 MB in size 12:12 < blindcoder> hmm... what could I do for lunch do? 12:13 < blindcoder> s/do\?/today?/ 12:14 * blindcoder gone 12:34 * netrunner away 12:38 < cytrinox> moin 12:50 -!- esdentem [~esdentem@lain.informatik.tu-muenchen.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12:51 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@pD950699F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:52 -!- fake [~fake@f4k3.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:56 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-114.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12:56 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-079-016.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:58 -!- Baldzius [~user@212.122.72.33] has quit () 13:24 < fake> hm 13:25 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@pD9506988.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:26 < fake> Error logs from default-2.0.0-rc5-mips-EB-R4400-generic-expert: 13:26 < fake> [1] 3 base/linux24 [5] 2 base/linux24 13:26 < fake> [5] 0 base/mtools [5] 0 base/libdaemon 13:26 < fake> [5] 0 base/ifplugd [5] 3 base/libcap 13:26 < fake> [5] 0 base/pcmcia-cs [5] 0 base/ntfsprogs 13:26 < fake> 245 builds total, 237 completed fine, 8 with errors. 13:26 < fake> (linux26 and nssdb disabled) 13:26 < fake> fine! 13:35 < mnemoc> very nice :) 13:46 < netrunner> linux26 and linux26-src are hanging at conf with 100% cpu load here. 13:47 < daja77> https://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert20024398940121.gif 13:57 -!- th [~th@thzn.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:58 < mnemoc> hi th 13:59 < netrunner> https://www.shortnews.de/shownews.cfm?id=497264 14:01 < netrunner> oh, sorry, german :/ 14:02 < daja77> strange 14:03 < netrunner> it's about a guy commiting suizide by attaching a rope to his neck and a lamp on the road. then he sat down into his car and accelerated. that ripped off his head 14:04 < daja77> the other headlines are wierd as well 14:08 < mnemoc> aaarg!! damn 'svn' 14:09 < daja77> erh hi mnemoc 14:10 < mnemoc> hi daja77 14:10 < mnemoc> svn: Commit failed (details follow): 14:10 < mnemoc> svn: Aborting commit: '$foo' remains in conflict 14:10 < mnemoc> # svn diff 14:11 < mnemoc> # svn diff $foo 14:11 < mnemoc> (nothing) 14:11 < mnemoc> #svn up 14:11 < mnemoc> At revision $x. 14:11 < mnemoc> svn commit $foo 14:11 < mnemoc> svn: Aborting commit: '$foo' remains in conflict 14:12 < clifford> mnemoc: if you resolved a conflict, you must tell it svn using "svn resolved $foo" 14:12 < mnemoc> =) 14:12 < clifford> otherwise it stais flages as "in cfonlict state" 14:12 < mnemoc> ic 14:13 < daja77> hi clifford 14:14 < owl> moin 14:14 < mnemoc> moin owl 14:14 < owl> hi mnemoc . how are you? 14:15 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-079-227.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:16 < mnemoc> sleepy :) 14:16 < mnemoc> and you? 14:16 < mnemoc> (hi and thanks! clifford :-) 14:16 < owl> alive. bored like hell. thx. 14:17 < daja77> clifford: what do you think, do we want to abuse some university machines for rock build? 14:23 < mnemoc> abuse univ. hardware is always a must do 14:24 < daja77> yeah but we would have to build up a sort of ad-hoc cluster to get the whole build done on that weekend 14:30 < Aard> god 14:32 < rolla> re 14:33 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-079-016.arcor-ip.net] has quit (No route to host) 14:35 < owl> hi Aardilein! 14:35 < owl> :p 14:36 < daja77> O_o 14:37 < owl> daja77: ? :P 14:37 < owl> schocked about erdferkels and my "begruessung"? :p 14:37 < daja77> erdferkels? 14:39 < esden> owl: begruessung ^= greeting 14:39 < owl> ESDEN!!!! :))) 14:40 < owl> you're alive? 14:40 < esden> OWL! 14:40 < daja77> no esden is only a bot 14:40 < owl> hehe . i believe so, too 14:40 < esden> (multiple use of exclamation marks is a sure sign for a deseased mind) ;-) 14:41 < owl> *hrhr* you're right boy 14:41 < daja77> hehe this doesn'T count for women, they always have too much of them 14:42 < owl> daja77: *kick* 14:42 < esden> daja77: yes they somewhat talk always in big latters and with multiple interpunctation ;-) 14:42 < daja77> ack, in mails too 14:43 < esden> one feels like in a webchat ;-) 14:43 < daja77> lol 14:43 < esden> with age average around 15 years ;-) 14:44 < esden> congrats owl! 14:44 < owl> thx, thx 14:45 < daja77> hmm thought owl is older 15 1/2 years or so 14:45 * daja77 hides 14:45 * rolla is still waiting for kde 3.2rc1 to finish compiling 14:45 < esden> ahh you are still there, I thought you kicked the kb cable ;-) 14:46 < esden> daja77: phisically perhups ;-) 14:46 < daja77> we now doin kde builds on our cluster now at university 14:46 < daja77> double now, grrr 14:46 * -> esden still waiting for the opteron machine ;-) 14:48 < esden> does anyone know when is linux tag taking place this year? 14:49 < daja77> it was on heise yesterday 14:49 < daja77> iirc 14:49 < daja77> clt is in march ;-) 14:50 < esden> 23. - 26. juni 14:52 * -> esden is asking himself how high should be a bit flip error be so that a file disappears form the harddisk ... 14:53 < owl> .oO(having no education in religion anymore is great :)))) 14:53 * -> esden is asking himself how high should be a bit flip error _probability_ be so that a file disappears form the harddisk ... 14:54 < mnemoc> hi esden 14:54 < esden> hi mnemoc 14:54 < mnemoc> clifford: ping 14:54 < mnemoc> svn: Commit failed (details follow): 14:54 < mnemoc> svn: out of date: 'package/rene/e' in transaction '2d' 14:54 < rxr> re 14:54 < mnemoc> rxr!! :) 14:54 < mnemoc> hi 14:54 < esden> hi rxr 14:54 < rxr> hi mnemoc esden jsaw * 14:54 < rolla> daja77: must be nice 14:55 < owl> hi rxr , rolla , jsaw 14:55 < mnemoc> rxr: can you help me with that error on 'svn commit'? 14:55 < daja77> rolla: we have a kde dev as student here, will ask him about his progress :) 14:56 < rxr> mnemoc: maybe a svn up helps? 14:56 < rxr> mnemoc: never got this, sorry ... 14:56 < mnemoc> :'( 14:57 < mnemoc> yes! :) 14:57 < esden> daja77: you have indians? 14:57 < daja77> erh why 14:57 < daja77> he is from bonn ... 14:58 < esden> because he is doing work for you ... the student 14:58 < daja77> not for me 14:58 < esden> ahh ok 14:59 < daja77> he is not doin rock kde builds there, just normal kde builds, cvs stuff 14:59 < esden> how lame! :) 15:02 < owl> *yawn* 15:03 < esden> daja77: why don't you convince him to help with kde in rock? 15:03 < daja77> we have a great integration of kde in rock, no? 15:04 < daja77> he works on that groupware stuff, and QTGtk and stuff 15:04 < esden> QTGtk? o_O 15:05 < daja77> gtk integration in qt, so that gtk apps can be easily integrated in kde 15:05 < daja77> look and feel and behaviour 15:05 < daja77> they even hacked openoffice widgetset to work with qt 15:05 < esden> https://freshmeat.net/projects/qtk/?topic_id=851 15:06 < daja77> nah 15:08 < rolla> daja77: it is done :) 15:08 < jsaw> re, hi all 15:10 < mnemoc> hi rolla, jsaw 15:11 < rolla> hallo mnemoc 15:12 < jsaw> mnemoc: where can I find a short intro to rsbac? 15:12 < mnemoc> rsbac.org :) 15:13 < mnemoc> btw... i need to update that package 15:13 < jsaw> mnemoc: are u using it regularly? 15:15 < mnemoc> i did 15:15 < mnemoc> on an old project 15:16 < mnemoc> imo it's much better than selinux 15:17 < daja77> esden: https://dot.kde.org/1073668213/ 15:18 < rolla> crazy 15:19 < daja77> no cool 15:22 < rolla> I know 15:24 < daja77> ;-) 15:26 < jsaw> some ppl didn't learn their lesson about diversity and wasting time unifying everything - which is most of the not a good idea imo 15:26 < jsaw> s/most of the/most of the time/ 15:27 < daja77> what's so bad about that, this is addressing ppl who are not that familiar with computers, ppl who are confused by that diversity 15:28 -!- plasma- [~foo@206.63.200.33] has joined #rocklinux 15:28 < daja77> of course there always be some ppl who think that windowmaker is cool 15:28 < daja77> I am fine with that 15:29 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@p213.54.120.71.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:30 < jsaw> I think it adds glue bloat. 15:30 < daja77> cap! 15:30 < capchaos> hey, daja! 15:30 < daja77> jsaw: doesn't matter 15:30 < daja77> gnome gets more and more bloated without that little patch anyway 15:30 * capchaos got DSL and now d/l'nig ROCK packages :) 15:31 < daja77> hehe 15:31 < jsaw> daja77: I'd prefer those guys to support KDE or gnome instead of sitting between the chairs. 15:31 < rxr> daja77: erhm - I'm just running windowmaker here :-( 15:32 < jsaw> hi rxr. 15:32 < daja77> the smiley tells me that you not think it is cool ;-) 15:32 < jsaw> I'm running e16, xfce, gnome - depending on computing power... 15:32 < rxr> hi jsaw 15:33 * daja77 hopes that kde 3.2 comes soon, need it faster 15:33 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-30-76.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:33 < holyolli> moin 15:34 < capchaos> Windowmaker is hot, not cool, daja :) too bad they're rewriting lots of it so the next release keeps off near future. 15:34 < capchaos> Moin, Olli 15:34 < holyolli> hi capchaos 15:34 < daja77> it is ugly and confusing ... 15:34 < holyolli> huhu daja77 15:35 < daja77> hi holyolli 15:35 < capchaos> daja77, why that? 15:35 < daja77> dunno why, didn't wrote it 15:36 < jsaw> funny, those discussion always end up with personal taste... 15:36 < capchaos> So you're talking about the code? Yes it is.. :/ 15:36 < daja77> jsaw: sure 15:36 < capchaos> jsaw, that's what it all aims to isn't it? :) 15:37 < daja77> anyway back to studienarbeit, so that i can code some rock related stuff later 15:37 < SMP> why the hell does it take kwin almost one second to draw the window decoration when foregrounding a konsole window that has been running for 9 days (as long as kwin)?! 15:38 < jsaw> daja77, capchaos: ... 15:38 < SMP> this is incredible crap 15:38 < jsaw> SMP: ask X 15:38 < SMP> it's almost instant for new windows ... 15:39 -!- puzzled [~patrick@puzzled.xs4all.nl] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15:39 < jsaw> SMP: I know. That's why I say, "ask X". 15:40 -!- puzzled [~patrick@puzzled.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 15:41 < esden> cu all 15:44 < mnemoc> jsaw: rsbac update ok :) 15:45 * netrunner just noticed that his bootsplash patch vanished. :( 15:54 < mnemoc> jsaw: sm get 2004012115263511893 16:03 < jsaw> mnemoc: thanks 16:06 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-054-038.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:08 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-079-227.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16:24 -!- Netsplit niven.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: alanw, __spectre__, daja77, rxr, holyolli, ija 16:25 -!- daja77 [[4Ojcdqn0+@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:26 -!- daja77 [[4Ojcdqn0+@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has quit (Killed by weber.freenode.net ()) 16:26 -!- daja77_ [[XF2eoAdvY@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:26 -!- Netsplit over, joins: holyolli, alanw, ija, rxr 16:26 -!- daja77 [[a24DwsJwP@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:26 -!- Netsplit over, joins: __spectre__ 16:26 -!- ija [[sRIrKR9iC@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:27 -!- th [~th@thzn.de] has left #rocklinux () 16:27 -!- daja77 [[a24DwsJwP@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:27 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-41-192.reverse.qsc.de] has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:27 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-41-192.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:27 -!- daja77_ is now known as daja77 16:37 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-054-234.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:44 -!- plasma- [~foo@206.63.200.33] has quit ("I'd rather be lucky than good") 16:47 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-082-082-221-161.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:56 < mnemoc> *yawn* 16:57 * daja77 slaps mnemoc 16:57 < mnemoc> ehm... that wasn't necesary :\ 16:58 < daja77> it was :p 16:59 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-054-038.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17:01 < mnemoc> :( 17:02 < daja77> :)) 17:07 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-213-023-063-083.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:18 < jsaw> bbl 17:24 < rxr> jsaw: cu 17:43 -!- esdentem [~esdentem@lain.informatik.tu-muenchen.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:45 < netrunner> argl, my weird build freeze kame from tempfs to small ;) 17:45 * netrunner needs more ram 17:47 * mnemoc has a hardware limit of 512M :( 17:48 * netrunner has a budget limit of 30EUR 17:49 < netrunner> mnemoc: almost the same :) 17:49 < mnemoc> :) 17:50 < netrunner> rxr: bg offered a remote login on his opteron box for developement. 17:53 < mnemoc> remember him the 'root account' need 17:53 < mnemoc> :-) 17:54 < netrunner> that one comes as a gift ;) 18:26 < netrunner> argl, machr=1686 :( 18:28 < mnemoc> 1? 18:29 < netrunner> yes :) ... but the error message was weird 18:29 * netrunner hopes it runs now through. 18:35 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-073-079.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:39 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA583.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:42 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD90056DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:56 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-054-234.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19:16 < rxr> deos anyone use mozilla and wan't to update it to 1.6.0 in ROCK ? 19:17 < daja77> you mean creating the patch` 19:17 < daja77> ? 19:18 < rxr> jups - test, patch and the galeon epihany care ... 19:19 < daja77> maybe later that week 19:20 < daja77> <- busy atm :-( 19:23 * netrunner has a build running ... maybe I plug it right in. 19:24 < daja77> cool 19:24 < mnemoc> what about {fire,thunder}bird packages? 19:25 < rxr> mnemoc: go for it ... 19:25 < mnemoc> :( 19:26 < mnemoc> echo {fire,thunder}bird packages >> ~amery/TODO 19:26 < rxr> if you do not need them give them a very low priority ... 19:26 < rxr> mnemoc: btw echo "" > TODO helps a lot ... 19:27 < mnemoc> echo "" > TODO <--- ic.. u like to truncate your TODO ;-) 19:28 < rxr> echo -n is even better ... 19:28 < mnemoc> rxr: i don't... i use links and mutt ... but they are a good thing to have ;) 19:28 < mnemoc> lol 19:28 < rxr> mnemoc: the bad thing is that the last time I took a look those two beasts 19:29 < rxr> include the whole mozilla code - took ages to build and wasted nearly as much CPU cycles during the build and bits after the build as mozilla itself ... 19:30 < mnemoc> oh 19:31 < rxr> maybe they cleaned up up in the last months ... 19:31 < rxr> and the worst was: it did not even start (on PowerPC ...) 19:33 < mnemoc> :o 19:34 < rxr> cu 19:34 -!- esdentem [~esdentem@lain.informatik.tu-muenchen.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19:36 < mnemoc> cu rxr 19:49 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1CD27.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:21 -!- mistik1 [wlan_misti@ool-44c02046.dyn.optonline.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:29 -!- esdentem [~esdentem@131.159.22.78] has joined #rocklinux 20:29 < esdentem> hi all 20:33 < netrunner> hi tempinski 20:36 -!- mistik1 [wlan_misti@ool-44c02046.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:47 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-079-164.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:57 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 20:57 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA583.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:01 < rxr> re 21:01 < rxr> rehi blindcoder 21:01 < mnemoc> hi rxr, bc 21:03 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958F0AD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:03 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F57B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 21:03 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 21:04 -!- ija [[BBQYyQ257@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:07 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-073-079.arcor-ip.net] has quit (No route to host) 21:12 < netrunner> anybody can tell me why, while I have "Insert: -march=i686", I have later "-march=i386" during build? 21:19 < rxr> netrunner: that is easy 21:19 < rxr> netrunner: because in the log you see what the package builds scripts / Makefile do and log 21:20 -!- esdentem_ [~esdentem@131.159.22.78] has joined #rocklinux 21:20 < rxr> this does not reflect what gcc gets - our GCC_WRAPPER is in between 21:20 < rxr> netrunner: take a look into the logs head - you'll see a GCC_WRAPPER test in the beginning and can verify which options get modified and finally into gcc ... 21:20 < blindcoder> heh, I have encountered much weirder problems :) 21:21 < blindcoder> target/lvp_boot/parse-config does var_append confopt " " "--enable-static" for package mplayer 21:21 < blindcoder> but once mplayer.conf is called this confopt just vanishes 21:21 < rxr> blindcoder: jups - might be a mplayer specific problem - it's .conf removes all opts 21:22 < blindcoder> I have modified mplayer.conf to use var_append confopt instead of confopt=, but to no avail 21:22 < rxr> yesterday I cleaned that a bit - but it still resets the opts ... 21:22 < blindcoder> I now just created target/lvp_boot/mplayer.conf and hope that that works 21:22 < blindcoder> have to still test that 21:23 < blindcoder> after that works, I almost can release the next LVP with a radically decreased live-system size :) 21:26 < rxr> from MB to MB ? 21:26 < blindcoder> from 230 MB to 40MB 21:26 < blindcoder> I can still shrink that with one trick or another, so it will be around 30 MB I think 21:27 < rxr> oh fat is movix ? 21:27 < blindcoder> hmm... it takes a CD by itself I think, but has tons of options more 21:28 < netrunner> movix comes in sizes of cd, cf, floppy iirc 21:28 < rxr> floppy ? 21:30 < rxr> blindcoder: do not forget a eye-candy homepage and menue for peoples attraction ... 21:31 < blindcoder> the menu will be the problem... I'm programmer, not a designer... but it should be possible to create some template-textures with gimp and imagemagick's convert 21:32 < netrunner> rxr: emovix=mikro, movix=minicd, movix^2=maxi(includes X) 21:32 < blindcoder> libgli has some built-ins already to create some animation, so that should be okay, but will require a partial rewrite of the lvp program 21:33 < netrunner> k3b can use emovix to create bootable self playing video cds. 21:34 < rxr> interesting ... 21:38 * netrunner created webalizer package. built, tested, works 21:38 < blindcoder> netrunner: does the DNS lookup code work? 21:39 < blindcoder> that's always been a patch-the-makefile-manually thing for me 21:39 < netrunner> blindcoder: not out of the box, I also just noticed that that config option was reported unknown. 21:40 < blindcoder> well, have you found a way around that? 21:41 < netrunner> blindcoder: starting ... I created the package because I found an year old stats on my /var/www ;) 21:41 < blindcoder> heh 21:43 < netrunner> blindcoder: INSTALL says I only need to configure --enable-dns ... isn't that working? 21:44 < blindcoder> with a standard and working bdb 1.85 compat header... yes 21:44 < blindcoder> need I say anything more? 21:49 < rxr> blindcoder: yes!? 21:49 < daja77> lol 21:49 < rxr> and why does DNS resolving depend on a bdb ... 21:49 < rxr> anyway - i'm off again - shortly ... 21:49 < blindcoder> rxr: becaes the data is cached in a bdb file 21:50 < blindcoder> and configure seems to be unable to either find the .h file or the linker fails 21:50 < blindcoder> anyway, simply enabling DNS using -DUSE_DNS and adding -ldb maybe with a -L works just fine her 21:51 < blindcoder> e 21:51 < netrunner> blindcoder: found what you mentioned ... 21:54 -!- elon [~moep2k@zwelf.in-dsl.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:23 -!- kandinski [~kandinski@62-151-131-227.tp24.ya.com] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22:26 < netrunner> blindcoder: it seems to be a quite common problem that a db compiled with the compat doesn't show the dbopen ... what options exactly do you use? 22:30 < netrunner> hm, tomorrow. n8 22:55 < mnemoc> any dyndns client currently on rock? 22:57 < jsaw> ezipupdate, ddclient 22:57 < jsaw> rehi btw 22:57 < mnemoc> hi jsaw! ;) 23:14 < mnemoc> eeer... jsaw: how do i give the hostname to ddclient? 23:15 < jsaw> mnemoc: sorry... no idea 23:15 < mnemoc> :( 23:15 < daja77> vi /etc/ddclient.conf 23:15 < daja77> iirc 23:16 < mnemoc> yes, but... 23:16 < mnemoc> i can set server, login, password, protocol, but... the hostname? 23:17 < jsaw> see ddclient --help 23:18 < daja77> server=members.dyndns.org, \ 23:18 < daja77> protocol=dyndns2 \ 23:18 < daja77> lospalmos.homelinux.net 23:18 < mnemoc> just that? 23:18 < daja77> yep 23:18 < mnemoc> i couldn't convince myself :) 23:18 < daja77> login and password of course 23:20 < mnemoc> wow.. it works :) 23:21 < daja77> :) 23:34 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail@p213.54.235.43.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:36 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail@p213.54.199.58.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:42 * blindcoder gone 23:42 < holyolli> n8 blindcoder 23:52 -!- elon [~moep2k@zwelf.in-dsl.de] has quit ("..") 23:52 -!- kandinski [~kandinski@62-151-131-227.tp24.ya.com] has joined #rocklinux --- Log closed Thu Jan 22 00:00:20 2004